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that arch building tool is totally awesome! why haven´t i thought of something myself yet???...

and awesome brickwork mister... i dunno how i can push you out of my way for the winning position...... oh my...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
that arch building tool is totally awesome! why haven´t i thought of something myself yet???...

and awesome brickwork mister... i dunno how i can push you out of my way for the winning position...... oh my...

Thanks vic, im actually a real softie, so if you asked nicely i'd probaly just let you win

HA! Fat chance! i want to win if i am good... no chance of you getting out of this one now!!!

LOL... ok then, let the obsesive compulsive model making begin

yup...that´s the spirit^^

by the way... showed your art to my wife... she looked in awe at your pics... mind you... there are only a few peeps work i tend to show to my wife... consider yourself ennobled

I've just started work on another of my Gothic cathedral terrain pieces, this ones an Alcove wall segment designed to add some detail to any large plain wall areas.
The little robed figure you see in the pics is just there as a mock up, to give me an idea of scale.
Eventually I will sculpt a set of different robed figures to go in each alcove.

I'm hoping to start the molding process in the next two weeks, and can then start building the first terrain piece, which I'm looking forward too.
Building the terrain itself shouldn't take too long, so i'll have plenty of WIP pics up here on a regular basis until it's finished.

i need to copy that guide-tool for those arches... i know i said it earlier... but really... that is such an immensly useful tool...! and it is just based on basic geometry!!!

these arches by the way look terrific!!!and that small dead hallow looks like yoda died and got placed on a shelf

Awesome work!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
i need to copy that guide-tool for those arches... i know i said it earlier... but really... that is such an immensly useful tool...! and it is just based on basic geometry!!!

these arches by the way look terrific!!!and that small dead hallow looks like yoda died and got placed on a shelf

Thanks Vic. The most important thing with making those arch tools, or any arch for that matter is starting with a symmetrical template. I simply draw half and arch onto a folded piece of paper, cut it out, then unfold it.
Now you have a perfectly symmetrical arch with which to make the plastic card tools....Simple

And who wouldn't want an immortalized Yoda sitting on there shelf lol

Thanks Vic. The most important thing with making those arch tools, or any arch for that matter is starting with a symmetrical template. I simply draw half and arch onto a folded piece of paper, cut it out, then unfold it.
Now you have a perfectly symmetrical arch with which to make the plastic card tools....Simple

that....that... brilliant... and no joking here... why haven´t i thought of this? sometimes clever peeps can be that stupid... if you now can help me with an old problem of mine too... how to make symetrically hexagon or octagon shapes? after that i think almost all my geometric problems would be solved...

as for that yoda... gotta ask my kids for that one.... i am sure not me...never liked that lil greeny^^

No problem Vik, One hexagon and one octagon coming up.

Now this is going to look like an Origami lesson but it's just geometry.
There's probably a simpler way of doing this but I like this method as you don't need to measure anything.

For the Octagon you just need two squares lined up over each other.
And for the Hexagon you need two Equilateral triangals. Check out the pics below.

I hope this helps.

i knew you could help me with that old problem of mine... i live it!!! the simple solution to this endless bickering problem of mine is what i like the best!... asnd believe me... i have tried and look for numerous ways to get that done... now... i have so many stuff i will use this for! thanks a heap matey!


maybe you should stuff all these geometry related contens into an article? i bet more peeps would be able to see ways to get around such shapes!

again... many thanks!


cheers, vik

Your Welcome Vic, anytime.

Work has been progressing nicely on my cathedral terrain components, I've been sculpting like a madman and now have several pieces ready for molding.

In the next couple of weeks I plan to be well into the casting process, so will hopefully have something ready to show you all.

In the meantime I thought I'd share a resource, that's helped me in designing all my terrain. It's a collection of artwork from all over the internet featuring 40k Imperial Architecture,
that's proven very useful to me in the past.

Checkout link below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hk1x1/sets/72157633243809976/with/8648635672/

thanks for sharing these highly inspirational art pieces!

Yesterday I recieved my molding silicone in the post, so i can finally start making molds,
which is great news as after spending the last few months sculpting i'm looking forward to getting some acttuall terrain building done.

I'll spare you all the mold making details, unless you want to know how I do it, if so let me know and I will try and post up a quick tutorial,
Although there are already plenty of them about, most done by people with much more experience than me.

Once I have the first casts done and start building, I will be updateing regularly with the terrains progress.
I will post up the latest WIP pics as soon as the internet decides to start working

WIP PIcs.....More soon

well... good luck then with your casting process for massproduction!

and i think even though there are so many toutorials out there for how to cast... some pics never hurt

beside... not many of these feature terrain scale casting !


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oh.... damn... those update pics slipped me by!

wonderful looking!

those arches look simply brilliant...in every sense of the word...

Somehow I've missed out on this, the roof looks awesome, and the sculpts look great. The geometry is working great, makes me wish I had paid more attention in math class.

Huh how i missed this thread I don't know,

The lastest updates look amazing I hope you plan on gettin a board together to combine all these wonderful creations.

I am constantly lost for words when I see your sculpting efforts.

I do however, have a couple of questions:
I've noticed that you appear to use a lot of the yellow milliput, have you used the silver-grey flavour and how does it compare? I'm only part-way through my first pack of silver (which I got because it's supposed to be smoother than the yellow) and not used any other putties so I'm curious. I assume, because you use it alot, that the yellow is perfectly fine for sculpting?

Also, things like the wings, cloaks, etc... do you build them up feather by feather, piece by piece or sculpt away at a larger lump of putty?

 Dr H wrote:
I am constantly lost for words when I see your sculpting efforts.

I do however, have a couple of questions:
I've noticed that you appear to use a lot of the yellow milliput, have you used the silver-grey flavour and how does it compare? I'm only part-way through my first pack of silver (which I got because it's supposed to be smoother than the yellow) and not used any other putties so I'm curious. I assume, because you use it alot, that the yellow is perfectly fine for sculpting?

Also, things like the wings, cloaks, etc... do you build them up feather by feather, piece by piece or sculpt away at a larger lump of putty?

I've used other clay types before, but as far as milliput goes i've only used the yellow one. I do want to try the other types as the yellow milliput can be a bit tricky to use at times,
but the main reason I use it is because i can sand it and carve it when its dry, Does your silver stuff dry in the same way?

The best way I've found is to sulpt things a piece at a time when using milliput, especily when sculpting fine detail, as it gets very soft and it's easy to damage the work you've already done.
With the wings it was the same thing, so I did them one row at a time.
I was speaking to someone else recently about the same thing, and they use a grey milliput that they say is very good for very fine detail, so it might be worth trying that as well.

Damned impressive sculpting, I can't wait to see what you've got planned here.

I'm going to have to step up my pace and detailing to stand a chance against this.

Really your work so far (and further back) is great, best of luck with the casting mate

Cool.
In what way is it tricky?
Yeah the silver-grey (which for some reason is neither silver or grey) dries hard and can be sanded and carved. That's what I like about it as well.

Thanks. Do you let each row set and do the fine detail carving before placing the next row or place all the rows on and let the whole lot set together then do the fine detail afterwards?

It can get tricky to use because you have to keep it wet, otherwise it sticks to everything and makes it hard to sculpt.

Yes I let each row set first before sculpting the next, I find it works best for me, although it is time consuming having to wait for it to dry, which is why I always have something else to work on while I wait.

 hk1x1 wrote:
It can get tricky to use because you have to keep it wet, otherwise it sticks to everything and makes it hard to sculpt.

Ah, yes. I know all about that. Can get very messy while you do it an' all.

Yes I let each row set first before sculpting the next, I find it works best for me, although it is time consuming having to wait for it to dry, which is why I always have something else to work on while I wait.

Cool. Good to know. Ta.

A quick update...
The first molds came out great as did the first set of casts, I did however make a hell of a mess, but I always do that .

Glad the molds worked out for you, I was hoping with any luck large pieces that there wouldn't be any difficulties. This ill be an amazing finished piece at the rate your going.

That last pic just looks like the giant angels are wringing their hands and contemplating what to do with that poor marine.

"Shall we sauté him?"
"I say we fricasee him!"
"No we should stuff him with a tau, they are brothers in arms after all!"

 Theophony wrote:
Glad the molds worked out for you, I was hoping with any luck large pieces that there wouldn't be any difficulties. This ill be an amazing finished piece at the rate your going.

That last pic just looks like the giant angels are wringing their hands and contemplating what to do with that poor marine.

"Shall we sauté him?"
"I say we fricasee him!"
"No we should stuff him with a tau, they are brothers in arms after all!"

LOL... I think they'll look more imposing once they have their swords.

congratz for the well done casting!... looks very cool!...

will you try lighter materials next for casting? i bet that plaster will not ship easy if you want to try to sell that stuff...