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See the Wraithknight looks good there, it's just the top half that looks terrible imo.

It's going to be a real challenge to magnetize these new units... The Wraith knight may work as it's just a bigger wraith lord... but the flyers... hmm... Especially those wings just behind the cockpit.

He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Absolutely the wraithguard are ace. There will be at least 10 guard and maybe 10 blades in my Eldar armies future (unless the blades suck in which case it will be 20 guard!).




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I am hoping that the supplement release is what GW have planned for the eldar as it lets me space out my spending.

Wraiths now, Jetbikes with Saim Hann, Any aspects I want with Biel Tan and maybe Warlocks with Ulthwe.

I don't have the need for any more rangers (although if they make plastic I might grab some).

The wraith guard are perfect and exactly what I needed cos I always wanted at least one unit of ten in my army but could just never afford them or find enough second hand at a reasonable price.

And I for one will be building that Bright Stallion instea of the knight, while I love the knight and think its am awesome model and if I ever need something to stand in as a revenant ill get one I can't justify that cost as a mostly casual gamer.

Bring on the codex I say that's what I'm most looking forward to!

 rohansoldier wrote:
I guess either GW are doing wave related releases and supplements (i.e. Biel Tan and Aspect Warriors, Saim Hann and Jetbikes) or they have decided that the models are available in Finecast so they don't need to re-release them in plastic as the units don't have any options not covered by the current models.

I guess they don't know their own armies then...

Seeing how several aspects have options missing. Spinneret Rifle??

And still having nothing for Farseers and Warlocks on Jetbikes. Although with random powers, Seer Council might get hit hard.

This is going to be very expensive. WK is huge so the price is nothing to get too upset about really. The DA on the other hand is a bleh move on GWs part. Just bought 40 more of the buggers tho so wont really affect me.

I'm still holding out hope for a piece of wargear that lets you choose your powers, even if it's one of those "one per army" relic type things the 6th edition books have been so hot on. The universal masters of all things psychic shouldn't have to rely on luck to get the powers they want.

Hopefully the codex will have rules to support some of the other rumors we received which would then mean we really could see future waves including the plastic avatar, new jet bikes, plastic spiders, and a new transport.

Well the jetbike on the codex cover art seems to be single-engined like the prototype, if that's anything to go by. The new box with 3 of the current jetbikes could just be a way to attempt to get rid of the old ones.

Or Eldrad still knows ALL THE POWERS

I'm not that mad about the rolls, I've been playing with the Div/Tele tables exclusively since the nerf (I play mechdar mostly) and you adapt. I've betting you will be able to get up to at least ML3 easily and cheaply, so couple of Farseers and you'll get the powers you want.

Whats more interesting is that Destructor is now on one of the charts, as is Conceal. So does this mean that Warlocks will become fully fledged psychers? As an Ulthwé player, that makes me very, very happy.

I know its already been said in some form or another, but that giant list of goodies we saw (with model codes etc) seems very plausible now that the Iyanden supplement has been announced - meaning it is highly probable that each major Craftworld will get its own mini-release, seeing a batch of those listed items coming out periodically.

Whilst I already own 130+ Jetbikes, i've got 20 Corsairs just screaming for new Jetbikes as a conversion project

I would like to think they're doing craftworld releases....but that sounds like a lot of attention from GW to a xenos race.

 Redemption wrote:
Well the jetbike on the codex cover art seems to be single-engined like the prototype, if that's anything to go by. The new box with 3 of the current jetbikes could just be a way to attempt to get rid of the old ones.

Like the Tau Crisis suits. Yes, I could see this somewhere down the line.

Not to rehash the price issue, but there is another one we've been overlooking.

Jetbikes got cheaper.

Box of 3 for $40, vs. 3x$15=$45

Sure, it's only $5, and they are the old sculpts, but this is a big step for GW. In a time of one-click, no save bundles, we get a box set that save you a little if you buy more then one. Now if they discontinue the single boxes, you are stuck buying on lots of three. Which will suck if you want to boost that 3 man squad to 5. But still an overall lowering of cost per model.

Besides the price, it might be a marketing perception thing. When I look at bikes, I see each one is $15, and I need three minimum to field a unit. Ouch. Looking at a $40 box, I see it as a whole unit I can field, so kinda gloss over the cost per model.

On a semi-related note, has anyone seen pictures of the jetbike autarch? I've seen it pop up on a few of the lists, but not in pictures. As a Saim-Hann player who was warned by his FLGS to pre-order anything I might want, I'm kinda curious what it looks like. And how he plays for that mater. Last time my Eldar took the field, they weren't a HQ option...

A few of the old kits being repackaged have saved a few dollars. More due to GW knowing they absolutely will not fly in the higher backet, probably.

 Nevelon wrote:
On a semi-related note, has anyone seen pictures of the jetbike autarch? I've seen it pop up on a few of the lists, but not in pictures. As a Saim-Hann player who was warned by his FLGS to pre-order anything I might want, I'm kinda curious what it looks like. And how he plays for that mater. Last time my Eldar took the field, they weren't a HQ option...

It's probably the metal one redone as finecast, seeing as that one recently disappeared from the GW site:

Supposedly Games-Workshop is no longer doing waves, whilst the Iyanden supplement doesn't includes rules for units (like some would like for Black Templars for example); so I can't imagine we will see further Craftworld supplements and that Iyanden was chosen to help sell the new Wraith kits.

Nvs wrote:
Hopefully the codex will have rules to support some of the other rumors we received which would then mean we really could see future waves including the plastic avatar, new jet bikes, plastic spiders, and a new transport.

Unfortunately that seems unlikely. GW's newest strategy is to never put into a codex a unit and/or options that they don't currently have a model for. The theory is that this is an attempt to stifle further sales from companies like Chapter House who makes options for things that they don't. All it does is hurt the players and make their codices more bland, but not like that matters.

Just look at ALL the 6th ed books, not one has a unit that is currently not sold or that can be made from a similar kit (Although I do prefer having the models over not having them). Based on evidence so far they're also not interested in redoing models that people will actually want and would buy such as new Jetbikes, new crisis suits or new CSM models. Feels like we are stuck with only getting new units and there can be no creativity if a model can't be released in time which really sucks a lot of the fun from writing new books I imagine.

Possibly they can't even put out a jetseer/jetlock because those are kits made by Chapterhouse Studio's already. Lawsuit pending of course.

 Redemption wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
On a semi-related note, has anyone seen pictures of the jetbike autarch? I've seen it pop up on a few of the lists, but not in pictures. As a Saim-Hann player who was warned by his FLGS to pre-order anything I might want, I'm kinda curious what it looks like. And how he plays for that mater. Last time my Eldar took the field, they weren't a HQ option...

It's probably the metal one redone as finecast, seeing as that one recently disappeared from the GW site:

Hopefully he can still take a reaper launcher while riding a jetbike.

 zedmeister wrote:
He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Do they? They never worked out well in competitive lists.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Do they? They never worked out well in competitive lists.

Sorry, I should rephrase - in terms of looks, these [wraithguard] are definitely the highlight of the launch. They look stunning

Hopefully they are decent because pretty models don't sell very well if they are useless in game. Most players can't just throw away money anymore.

Need less lychguard!

 Kirasu wrote:
Hopefully they are decent because pretty models don't sell very well if they are useless in game. Most players can't just throw away money anymore.

Need less lychguard!

An Iyanden army is really fluffy and I like its look. But at the competitive level, I'd hesitate to field such an army even with a Wraithknight. There are too many things out there that can kill it, like DE poisoned weapons.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Do they? They never worked out well in competitive lists.

Do they what?

Wraithguard were plenty competitive in 5th and 6th edition. I've played Greg Sparks (a prominent competitive Eldar player) several times, and he's always got a full unit of 10 WG. They seem to work pretty well for him.

 Kirasu wrote:

Nvs wrote:
Hopefully the codex will have rules to support some of the other rumors we received which would then mean we really could see future waves including the plastic avatar, new jet bikes, plastic spiders, and a new transport.

Unfortunately that seems unlikely. GW's newest strategy is to never put into a codex a unit and/or options that they don't currently have a model for. The theory is that this is an attempt to stifle further sales from companies like Chapter House who makes options for things that they don't. All it does is hurt the players and make their codices more bland, but not like that matters.

It doesn;'t matter - people go out and buy it anyway.

 whigwam wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Do they? They never worked out well in competitive lists.

Do they what?

Wraithguard were plenty competitive in 5th and 6th edition. I've played Greg Sparks (a prominent competitive Eldar player) several times, and he's always got a full unit of 10 WG. They seem to work pretty well for him.

As much as I wish this were true, eldar haven't placed top 10 in any GT so far in 2013.

 whigwam wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
He's a big fella. Really like the new wraithguard. Definitely the winners of this release in my book...

Do they? They never worked out well in competitive lists.

Do they what?

Wraithguard were plenty competitive in 5th and 6th edition. I've played Greg Sparks (a prominent competitive Eldar player) several times, and he's always got a full unit of 10 WG. They seem to work pretty well for him.

I've never seen a wraithguard outside of its blister :(

From a theorycraft standpoint they didn't look like they could do much of anything. Especially as the meta turned Eldar more and more into biker gangs.

Hopefully their rules are improved dramatically as I'd love to start a wraithwing army.