July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42

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**Gitzbitah**

Grimtuff wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
Lets just assume it will be a skull made out of smaller skulls and call it a draw?

This just in! I've found an image of the aforementioned terrain piece!

Spoiler:

An ossuary would actually be a really cool piece of terrain! The teeth look oddly out of place.

**Slayer le boucher**

Grimtuff wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
Lets just assume it will be a skull made out of smaller skulls and call it a draw?

This just in! I've found an image of the aforementioned terrain piece!

Spoiler:

I have one of those...

**Kid_Kyoto**

Grimtuff wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
Lets just assume it will be a skull made out of smaller skulls and call it a draw?

This just in! I've found an image of the aforementioned terrain piece!

Spoiler:

Tempting...

My BLOOD!zerkers could use a new centerpiece.

**bodazoka**

Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

**ph34r**

bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

I agree. I, like you, think that GW products should look more like they were made by playmobil.

**Agamemnon2**

bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

If you honestly feel like that, you won't mind if I replace your miniatures with My Little Pony toys, right? All toys are essentially interchangeable, right?

Right. Thought not. Your argument is knaveish and dishonest.

**Kangodo**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
If you honestly feel like that, you won't mind if I replace your miniatures with My Little Pony toys, right? All toys are essentially interchangeable, right?
Right. Thought not. Your argument is knaveish and dishonest.

Ofcourse he minds, because Warhammer is much more expensive than MLP-toys.
But in the end it are both toys.

**Agamemnon2**

That's not my point of contention. My point of contention is that aesthetic still matters, and that saying "Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys" is not in fact ironic. Complaining these toys "look like toys" is a complaint over specific aesthetic features, not a rejection of their ontological state of toyhood.

**Krinsath**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

If you honestly feel like that, you won't mind if I replace your miniatures with My Little Pony toys, right? All toys are essentially interchangeable, right?

Right. Thought not. Your argument is knaveish and dishonest.

Exactly! If we did that then we'd bring all the bronies out of the woodwork and have to listen to interminable arguments about how pony X is OP or pony Y should be the best according to the fluff or you can't believe the retcon to so-and-so's backstory they did between the 80s edition and the latest version or how they look so much more cartoon-y now. Actually, I'm not sure this illustration has helped your point, it sounds like the community would be the same... </tongue-in-cheek>

Joking aside, while it'd be nice if they could make a model to satisfy everyone's desires I think we can all agree that will never happen. They might have been able to get it closer to that mark than the Khornemower, but it is what it is. So long as the rules are provided so people can make things to "counts as" that meets their own personal requirements it's really a non-issue for the consumer. Sucks for GW to have to sit on a bunch of stock that they can't move, but that's the gamble you take...

**unmercifulconker**

bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

Space marine vs orks lego and playmobile confirmed.

**PredaKhaine**

unmercifulconker wrote:
bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

Space marine vs orks lego and playmobile confirmed.

If having the right toys isn't needed then it's plasticene blob proxie time!

I'm so having Morph as my warlord.

**pretre**

I didn't see these couple, so here:

Via Warseer's The Dark General
It's a dual kit approx size of baneblade box, but taller model. Makes either the Deathdealer or Lord of Battles.

Also there's a bunch of new data sheets, inlcuding some for those of us that bought multiple NEW models

It's also NOT the only Chaos models coming out, along with a few other Khorne...speedy guys...

Approx price is $125

via Opatija
got some quick information about the upcoming release. It´s "just" what the employees were told, which in some cases is not very reliable:

- Apocalyspe is mostly about formations with some minor benefits for the "units"
- There will be at least 2 waves for mini supply (Some of the missing miniatures will be released when their own 6th codex is)
- Each army is going to get a super heavy, beeing asked about such a huge release, they were told to keep the Allied Forces in mind, leaving Tyranids aside (speculated as an Imperial/SM Multipart kit) which will hit at around 125,-€ (It´s quite possible that the Chaos thing and the Monolith are the only ones! And Baneblades/Shadowswords are accessable via Allied Forces!)
- A large/multi part piece of Terrain fitting to the "Martyrs"-Line (80,-€/50,-€/30,-€)

All in all even the Employees are not very excited for the release so better don't expect to much when reading the rumours about those gigantic Release-Wave(s)

Gamers Edition - it's going to include templates and dice but one very curious thing was said: "...containing a Apocalypse Rulebook in your language"
It was specificaly mentioned. I would not have thought GW might release a English-Only Book....but then i was reminded of Dfts...

Apologies if already posted.

**Kroothawk**

I don't post rumours by The Dark General, there are limits

**pretre**

Kroothawk wrote:
I don't post rumours by The Dark General, there are limits

lol I post them because they are hilarious. That guy is like ghost21 bad.

TheDarkGeneral - Total rumors: (12 TRUE) / (66 FALSE) / (12 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

**Davespil**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

If you honestly feel like that, you won't mind if I replace your miniatures with My Little Pony toys, right? All toys are essentially interchangeable, right?

Right. Thought not. Your argument is knaveish and dishonest.

Toys looking like toys in no way implies all toys are interchangeable. But this is coming from a guy that fails to see irony.

Keep throwing out new codices and models GW. If someone doesn't like them then they just won't buy them.

**kirsanth**

pretre wrote:
. . .leaving Tyranids aside . . .

Still?

/sigh

**Bloodhorror**

kirsanth wrote:
pretre wrote:
. . .leaving Tyranids aside . . .
Still?

/sigh

feth...

**Davespil**

That whole alliance matrix is BS. Either no one should be able to ally or everyone should be able to ally with everyone else. Keeping it fluffy cause all kinds of imbalances in the game.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Davespil wrote:
That whole alliance matrix is BS. Either no one should be able to ally or everyone should be able to ally with everyone else. Keeping it fluffy cause all kinds of imbalances in the game.

If they made it fluffy, then I'd have understood it, but they made it partially fluffy and partially WTF???

The Grey Knight/Necron team up and the Tau and Codex Marines one are both instances of boggling non-fluff.

And if it was designed, as it appears to be given the tyranid no allies rule, then the design studio should have been ready with a boost of another kind for nids, a change in points or some other form of amendment to bring some vague sense of balance.

(or, just possibly, they should have made an 'any army may ally with any army' basic rule and made the allies matrix an optional additional rule, along with all the terrain stuff.).

**Bloodhorror**

Just the Tyranids getting to ally with themselves so they can take that extra little bit of Force Org... that would have been enough for me

**kirsanth**

That and using gun emplacements.

At least let them use their own!

**Kid_Kyoto**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
bodazoka wrote:
Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol

If you honestly feel like that, you won't mind if I replace your miniatures with My Little Pony toys, right? All toys are essentially interchangeable, right?

Right. Thought not. Your argument is knaveish and dishonest.

I see no problem here

**kronk**

KK is wearing the wrong glasses again guys. Watch out!

**daddyorchips**

there's a lot of people who really take this hobby massively personally. *posted at the end of page 4*

**Farseer Faenyin**

So it sounds like they are keying up some new formations to fit in the newer model types. Unfortunately....I have no will to buy a Wraithknight let alone 3+ Wraithknights....

Hopefully my Scorpion Heavy Grav and/or Firestorm get updated from GW or FW.

**Ravenous D**

Cobras getting nerfed probably, dicks.

**midget_overlord**

Ravenous D wrote:
Cobras getting nerfed probably, dicks.

I'll be fine with a small nerf, as long as the points reflect this and go down accordingly.

My friends really don't like my cobra, it's quite the nasty super heavy tank. It usually makes it's points back really fast.

I keep it in reserves then kill whatever I want, 10 inch strength D barrage is overpowered indeed!

**pretre**

Big Red at BOLS on the Missing Eldar Bomber:

If you remember, there was chatter for months over TWO Eldar flyer kits that were in production.

The two fighters in the Crimson Hunter/Hemlock box was one AND there was a larger bomber that was sighted by sources. Its possible this bomber is being held for either a second Eldar wave, or Apocalypse. In anycase that bomber didn't ship in the codex-release wave.

Here is an artist mockup put together with help from folks 'in the know'.
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4201&d=1370894780

The things you will notice compared to the fighter are:

-Lengthier fuselage
-Wider wingspan without the forward curving wings of the fighters
-Dual closely mounted engines per wing (4 engines in total)
-Dual cockpits (pilot and gunner)
-Probably bombs underslung as well

Now we wait...

Very salty. Especially since we haven't seen any second waves in quite some time.

**midget_overlord**

Sounds more like the missing dark eldar bomber, not that I would be against another eldar plane!

I can't see the attachment, and I really don't want to subscribe on another forum, 4 is enough as it is.

Could someone repost it here?

**Bolognesus**

midget_overlord wrote:
Sounds more like the missing dark eldar bomber, not that I would be against another eldar plane!

I can't see the attachment, and I really don't want to subscribe on another forum, 4 is enough as it is.

Could someone repost it here?