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 Savageconvoy wrote:
I'm just waiting for the second batch of pics to pop up and everybody will change their mind. Just like with the deamon flies and the Tau fighter/bomber.

People changed their minds about the hellturkey? Oh my.

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Not every race is getting a super-heavy, just access to them via Allies. The focus on apocalypse is new scenery and fortifications, with their own rules, that are legal for games of 40k and planetstrike as centerpieces and objectives. Expect a lot more racially specific fortifications as well as more "imperial/generic" stuff in 2014 Q2.

And seems I forgot to post this:

Old-Four-Arms over at Warseer wrote:on the GW site in the description of the Imperial Bunker :

"The Imperial Bunker can be combined with the Wall of Martyrs scenery range including the Imperial Defence Line,
Aquila Strongpoint, Firestorm Redoubt, Vengeance Weapon Battery, and the Imperial Defence Emplacement. The only
limit to how big your Wall of Martyrs set can be is your imagination (and probably the size of your gaming table)."

Aquila Strongpoint, Firestorm Redoubt and Vengeance Weapon Battery could be the 3 new apoc terrain pieces...

Access via allies sounds a bit pointless in bring your whole collection aka ApoC...

Race specific Terrain however


The 3 Wall o' dead Cadians expansions i'll think about, along those 'liths.

Access via Allies.....

I thought the entire point of Apoc was to bring everything you have and who cares about if they are Allies or not.

With them being so close to the release I'm surprised GW didn't hold back the riptide and wraithknight models for this release. Only publish the rules for them in the apoc book (legal for regular 40k) and try and leverage people into buying the apoc book even if they didn't want to play apoc. Plus more large units would have made a bigger impact for the release, really make it an of the moment feeling for players to all get onto the big game band wagon. Instead if there is only going to be two large models and some imperial scenery (going off what has been revealed so far) then I think there might well be much less impetuous for the community to support it.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
With them being so close to the release I'm surprised GW didn't hold back the riptide and wraithknight models for this release. Only publish the rules for them in the apoc book (legal for regular 40k) and try and leverage people into buying the apoc book even if they didn't want to play apoc. Plus more large units would have made a bigger impact for the release, really make it an of the moment feeling for players to all get onto the big game band wagon. Instead if there is only going to be two large models and some imperial scenery (going off what has been revealed so far) then I think there might well be much less impetuous for the community to support it.

The models would sell better under standard 40k rules. Look at the ADL and Skyshield.

The point is to make the rules the same as have been published already you just change which book they are available in. Gw have started moving back to the dual book format as seen with the iyanden expansion. This seemed like it would have been a logical progression.

So this new rumor with super-heavies implies that new super-heavies will be released, and all factions will get one or have the ability to ally with a faction that gets one. It also seems to imply that the old Stompa and IGTanks aren't being counted.

Khornemower:
* Chaos Marines
* Daemons
* Dark Eldar
* Imperial Guard
* Necrons
* Orks
* Tau

Supermonolith:
* Necrons
* Black/Red/Green/Grey/Vanilla Marines
* Chaos Marines
* Grey Knights
* Imperial Guard
* Orks
* Sisters
* Tau

That leaves Tyranids and Eldar remaining (coincidentally my two armies). Tyranids cannot ally with anyone, so this rumor is stating they'll be getting a model. Eldar remain, so they'll either be getting a model or any other army will be getting a model.

It's amusing to note that the allies matrix states that the 'cannot ally' trait is called "Come The Apocalypse".

the first line of the rulebook will be "armies can ally under Apoc rules"

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand now Im imagining Flyrants and Riptides racing each other towards a Stompa...

 IHateNids wrote:
the first line of the rulebook will be "armies can ally under Apoc rules"

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand now Im imagining Flyrants and Riptides racing each other towards a Stompa...

That'd be hilariously money-grubbing.

Apoc Rule:
"Tyranids, with their tendency towards large monsters, can be taken as Battle Brothers with any other army so long as you field at least three large-oval-base models (costing >$60). Games Workshop thanks you for your patronage."

Could someone summarise the last 32 pages as I'm far to lazy to trawl through them. What do we KNOW is coming is July?
Cheers

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:The point is to make the rules the same as have been published already you just change which book they are available in. Gw have started moving back to the dual book format as seen with the iyanden expansion. This seemed like it would have been a logical progression.

Following your logic, GW would make even more sales by publishing the rules twice and releasing the models earlier. *Shrug*.

Absolutionis wrote:So this new rumor with super-heavies implies that new super-heavies will be released, and all factions will get one or have the ability to ally with a faction that gets one. It also seems to imply that the old Stompa and IGTanks aren't being counted.

Khornemower:
* Chaos Marines
* Daemons
* Dark Eldar
* Imperial Guard
* Necrons
* Orks
* Tau

Supermonolith:
* Necrons
* Black/Red/Green/Grey/Vanilla Marines
* Chaos Marines
* Grey Knights
* Imperial Guard
* Orks
* Sisters
* Tau

That leaves Tyranids and Eldar remaining (coincidentally my two armies). Tyranids cannot ally with anyone, so this rumor is stating they'll be getting a model. Eldar remain, so they'll either be getting a model or any other army will be getting a model.

It's amusing to note that the allies matrix states that the 'cannot ally' trait is called "Come The Apocalypse".

Hm. 'Nids have traditionally had a fair amount of Apoc-only releases in the past, although looking at the FW page now a whole bunch of the older sculpts are gone, but things like the Hierophant and Hierodule as well as Harridan are still around. Chances are they'll get a Bio-titan again. I suspect Eldar will either get a new flyer or super-heavy tank, given that they already have two Titans in the Revenant and Phantom (putting them on the same level as the Imperials). That being said, Eldar have almost as many flyers and super-heavy tanks as IG do, so in hindsight I'm wondering if we'll get a larger, Avatar-esque MC instead. Who knows?

 Kroothawk wrote:

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Not every race is getting a super-heavy, just access to them via Allies. The focus on apocalypse is new scenery and fortifications, with their own rules, that are legal for games of 40k and planetstrike as centerpieces and objectives. Expect a lot more racially specific fortifications as well as more "imperial/generic" stuff in 2014 Q2.

This certainly appears to buttress my opinion that the Khornmower with Skulldozer and Pokilith are the only two units likely to be released next month.

 Enigwolf wrote:

Hm. 'Nids have traditionally had a fair amount of Apoc-only releases in the past, although looking at the FW page now a whole bunch of the older sculpts are gone, but things like the Hierophant and Hierodule as well as Harridan are still around. Chances are they'll get a Bio-titan again.

Don't know which models are gone from the Tyranid page, but the Harridan is listed as "Out Of Stock"...

T

 Inflatable love badger wrote:
Could someone summarise the last 32 pages as I'm far to lazy to trawl through them.

Yes, we could, but we are too lazy to help you with your lazyness

Old-Four-Arms over at Warseer wrote:on the GW site in the description of the Imperial Bunker :

"The Imperial Bunker can be combined with the Wall of Martyrs scenery range including the Imperial Defence Line,
Aquila Strongpoint, Firestorm Redoubt, Vengeance Weapon Battery, and the Imperial Defence Emplacement. The only
limit to how big your Wall of Martyrs set can be is your imagination (and probably the size of your gaming table)."

Aquila Strongpoint, Firestorm Redoubt and Vengeance Weapon Battery could be the 3 new apoc terrain pieces...

 Death By Monkeys wrote:
The Firestorm Redoubt - The Firestorm is an Eldar Anti-Air Falcon variant. Could the Firestorm Redoubt be an Eldar terrain piece with a Firestorm AA emplacement?

*ahem*

"Wall of Martyrs scenery range"

Distinctly Imperial. Less Eldar. More dead Cadians.

 Inflatable love badger wrote:
Could someone summarise the last 32 pages as I'm far to lazy to trawl through them.

Stuff is getting released next month.

 Inflatable love badger wrote:
What do we KNOW is coming is July?

Plastic model kits. Some assembly required. Probably something for your iPad, too.

I'd offer to go into more detail but I'm too lazy to trawl through the first post of the thread and look this stuff up for you.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Death By Monkeys wrote:
The Firestorm Redoubt - The Firestorm is an Eldar Anti-Air Falcon variant. Could the Firestorm Redoubt be an Eldar terrain piece with a Firestorm AA emplacement?

*ahem*

"Wall of Martyrs scenery range"

Distinctly Imperial. Less Eldar. More dead Cadians.

Ah, damn. You're right.

Although, going to GW's site now, I don't see any mention of those pieces in the text for the Imperial Bunker.

timd wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:

Hm. 'Nids have traditionally had a fair amount of Apoc-only releases in the past, although looking at the FW page now a whole bunch of the older sculpts are gone, but things like the Hierophant and Hierodule as well as Harridan are still around. Chances are they'll get a Bio-titan again.

Don't know which models are gone from the Tyranid page, but the Harridan is listed as "Out Of Stock"...

T

The harridan, I'm assuming, is just waiting on a restock. There's no reason to pull it unless GW have decided to do a plastic 40k model (very unlikely, as GW have actually said they're not doing that anymore).

The models that disappeared from the FW catalogue were the Hive Tyrants, because as they said, they were alternate sculpts of the 3rd edition design, and GW have moved away from that look.

Are the lines from the video GW's Hiring policy?

PICS!!!!!!!!!!!
https://m.facebook.com/#!/tyronforge?v=timeline&filter=1&ref=stream&__user=1509230452

Is that link legit? The login screen looks a little odd to me.

Oh god I'm not liking that Master of Rites. The rest look fairly ok, although I was hoping for more than just a couple of new Chapter Masters.

Just go to tyronforge's Facebook page.

Not liking those one bit, especially Pavarotti marine.

I am sure there is more incoming.

These are a tad overdone, but at least they're somewhat original for space marines. I might actually get these.

 Breotan wrote:

 Inflatable love badger wrote:
Could someone summarise the last 32 pages as I'm far to lazy to trawl through them.

Stuff is getting released next month.

 Inflatable love badger wrote:
What do we KNOW is coming is July?

Plastic model kits. Some assembly required. Probably something for your iPad, too.

I'd offer to go into more detail but I'm too lazy to trawl through the first post of the thread and look this stuff up for you.

You failed to discuss pricing, I assume it will be the usual high quality, geared towards a nice low buget?

Sorry for the lazyness, just assumed that 33 pages might have established a few things beyond the first post

Master of the Marches and Master of the Rites: Looking good, not special but ok.
Lord Executioner: Best of the bunch by far IMHO
Master of the Relics: Well, he's ok I just don't like how he's holding his weapon.