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I luvs me the MAS Dark Temple and Arcane bases!

I liked the Mystic Bases so I'm backing this project. If they unlock some other patterns I desire I may back even more.

The one thing I do not like is...

Honestly bases aren't rocket science and to go and remake them.....pure douchebaggery. You could have just made them toppers.

So this thing closes in two weeks. So barring production, shipping, and customs delays what date is this KS looking to deliver its product to the people by?

Feb 2015?

Hmm, I may have to get in on this one. Thirty bucks (rough guess of the total including shipping) for 34 bases isn't bad. There does seem to be lots of potential here for warped base inserts that don't lie flat, and delays of 6 months are about the norm, so I will have to think about it some more.

The bottom black bits are polystyrene (like other companies hard plastic bases) so are no more likely to warp than them

the toppers are decently thick so shouldn't really warp either, and even if you do you've got enough 'depth' in the lower bit to avoid problems

I actually suspect warping may be another reason (in addition to ooh exclusive design) why these have got their own design of deep bases to drop them in to, if done thin enough to look good as toppers they may well have had problems

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
The bottom black bits are polystyrene (like other companies hard plastic bases) so are no more likely to warp than them

the toppers are decently thick so shouldn't really warp either, and even if you do you've got enough 'depth' in the lower bit to avoid problems

I actually suspect warping may be another reason (in addition to ooh exclusive design) why these have got their own design of deep bases to drop them in to, if done thin enough to look good as toppers they may well have had problems

As I said above, I'm only worried about the base inserts warping. Even if there is depth to hide some warping problems, it makes it difficult to glue down to the actual base. You are right that they may be thick enough to avoid too much warping.

If I assume a realistic June 2015 for shipping, then combined with the problems mentioned, I'm not sure this is worth pledging for yet rather than just waiting for retail with discount.

Any idea what the MSRP will be then?

I'm still waiting for the bases to go for $.50 apiece. But I'm having a tough time finding any textured bases for a low price, other than FRPGames' Clearance section.

I do think, unlike miniatures, bases and terrain will become more of a commodity. Reaper already posted new pics of their non-textured plastic bases. There's also no reason why CMON and MAS can't run another KS and offer bases for the 25mm gamers.As I understand it, boardgamers (eg. Descent, Shadows of Brimstone) use 1" squares, and thus 25mm bases.


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So here's an insert without the base. If you don't mind touching the insert (eg. tabletop paint job), you've just freed up a base.

Anyway, Update 6 is to address concerns about the inserts on 25mm and 40mm bases: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/coolminiornot-base-system-featuring-micro-art-stud/posts

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
I luvs me the MAS Dark Temple and Arcane bases!

I liked the Mystic Bases so I'm backing this project. If they unlock some other patterns I desire I may back even more.

The one thing I do not like is...

Honestly bases aren't rocket science and to go and remake them.....pure douchebaggery. You could have just made them toppers.

So this thing closes in two weeks. So barring production, shipping, and customs delays what date is this KS looking to deliver its product to the people by?

those deep dishes are great for making swamp, lava or shore scenics.


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they seems like they will fit rather well on 25mm (as far as diameter goes). Any issues with height can be fixed with a band saw or a steady hand with a hobby saw.

Usually the inside of a 30mm lipped base is approx. 7/8 of an inch (22-23mm) which is the top of a 25mm beveled base.

those deep dishes are great for making swamp, lava or shore scenics.

Good idea actually.

Crunched a few numbers.

FRPGames has lipped bases. $8 shipping: http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=search&s=bases+lipped
* $.23 for 30mm
* $.48 for 40mm
* $.80 for 50mm

At 45K, this KS will have $12.16 in lipped bases per set:
20x 30mm Bases = 20x $.23 = $4.80
12x 40mm Bases = 12x $.48 = $5.76
2x 50mm Bases = 2x .80 = $1.60

$80 pledge plus $8 shipping comes to $22 per set, or $10 for the inserts:
59% 30mm bases * $10 = $6 for 20x 30mm inserts or $.30 per insert
35% 40mm bases * $10 = $3.50 for 12x 40mm inserts or $ .30 per insert
6% 50mm bases * $10 = $.60 for the 2x 50mm inserts or .30 per insert

I *think* that's how the math works. Gah. Word problems.

EDIT: No, wait. It doesn't. I didn't include FRPGame's shipping. STILL A BARGAIN.

Miniature Market has a sale, so figured I'd look at their inserts. $2 each: http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ssearch?q=miniature+bases+inserts

Didn't see these posted here so thought I'd take the liberty.



Tech:


Jungle:


Graveyard:


Derelict:


Hard to choose between graveyard and jungle. Maybe both will be available during the KS?

I want Jungle

I've avoided them in resin as it looks like you'd need to hack them up to get a mini's feet to fit (but in cheap PVC no I've no problem cutting them up)

 Breotan wrote:
Being PVC it should be fairly easy to trim down the "insert" part of the base so they sit properly on top of regular GW style bases.

Not if you want a perfectly flat surface to sit on top of a regular GW base... It would require a gakload of cutting followed by an equal amount of sanding.

Jungle bases look nice, but I fail to see where you would position the actual mini. Looks like it would have to be standing on the leaves, which would look weird.

I'm down for either Jungle or Graveyard. I'm equally fearful at the prospect of scraping PVC mold lines off of either

 Alex C wrote:
Jungle bases look nice, but I fail to see where you would position the actual mini. Looks like it would have to be standing on the leaves, which would look weird.

Good point. Jungle isn't really a good base for much of 40K IMO (big flat footed models....Damn you GW!!). My Malifaux minis could get away using the jungle bases, but I don't think there are any jungles in Malifaux!!

Graveyard it is!!!

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
I'm down for either Jungle or Graveyard. I'm equally fearful at the prospect of scraping PVC mold lines off of either

From where?

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding by some on how exactly these would be moulded and poured, or how mould lines actually occur....

Tech aa the way. Easy to mount figs on and can be used by nearly all scoff armies. Gy not so good outside fantasy or hordes. Just don't like look of derelict. Jungle will take work to not look silly or your figs to not look like amputees.

Gonna post this pic from the KS.



So, the inserts will fit on 40k bases. And I must disagree with you, Azazelx. Cutting down the inserts won't be much of a hassle at all unless you're the sort who loathes assembling models and prefers playing or painting. For me, it's two or three minutes of work at most.

For those of you who love textured bases, there is no reason at all for you to sit on the sidelines.

Still shocked that Graceyard is (was?) winning the vote- especially over Tech!

Yea. I really don't see which army/game would use that theme to any real degree. WHFB would but you need square bases for that.

Really hate the idea of slobbering fanboys making these decisions.

 Breotan wrote:
Gonna post this pic from the KS.

That looks ridiculous.

That's why you cut the bottom 1/3rd off, silly.

 Alpharius wrote:
Still shocked that Graceyard is (was?) winning the vote- especially over Tech!

It's a CMON KS, and with Zombicide 3 pulling in $2.8M, I'm not surprised. Sedition Wars boardgames on clearance have 50 sf bases and 50 mini's for under $40.

Hmm. Maybe the Sedition Wars backers aren't exactly backing this project...

 Alpharius wrote:
Still shocked that Graceyard is (was?) winning the vote- especially over Tech!

maybe a lot of people who bought into the vampires and werewolves for wrath of kings want the grave yard?

I really like those jungle bases. Would love to see those with some jungle camo infinity models.


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ced1106 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Still shocked that Graceyard is (was?) winning the vote- especially over Tech!

It's a CMON KS, and with Zombicide 3 pulling in $2.8M, I'm not surprised. Sedition Wars boardgames on clearance have 50 sf bases and 50 mini's for under $40.

Hmm. Maybe the Sedition Wars backers aren't exactly backing this project...

I don't think there are a whole lot of sedition wars backers left.


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I've suddenly become interested in this KS after not wanting anything to do with. Especially with those jungle and tech bases. Everything else... meh.

They're already making a different set of graveyard bases for WoK. If Tech wins that may get me to pledge, since those Space Hulk models deserve real bases. The bulk of the Sedition Wars bases are to small to be used for any other games.

 Alpharius wrote:
Still shocked that Graceyard is (was?) winning the vote- especially over Tech!

Its because derelict and tech are splitting the sci fi vote. Any generic fantasy vote is likely going to graveyard. I said on the comments section, but a weak win here (which graveyard would be, with just a couple of votes over tech alone) will stall the project. Probably lots of 40k players would jump in on tech/derelict, which would unlock other stretch goals faster.




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 insaniak wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Gonna post this pic from the KS.

That looks ridiculous.

lol looks like my normal base set up. I normally glue a 3mm base to the bottom of all mine, to add extra edge for my clumsy fingers to pick it up by. Granted, I dont play any games with TLOS, so it doesn't matter if someone's hat feather is a mm over cover.

Gotta agree with this logic, even though I don't need those bases.

I think chaos was a bit limited choice, but those other scifi choices should help bring in more pledges. Much more than jungle or graves.

ced1106 wrote:

I'm still waiting for the bases to go for $.50 apiece. But I'm having a tough time finding any textured bases for a low price, other than FRPGames' Clearance section.

I use this place for basic textured bases. $5.50 for 10 25 or 30mm, 5 40mm or 3 50mm.

http://www.bases4war.com/shop/

Rock/desert, dungeon stone, lava, plank, tau, cobblestone, and tyranid styles. Cheap shipping to the US too (and free to UK).

 cincydooley wrote:

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
I'm down for either Jungle or Graveyard. I'm equally fearful at the prospect of scraping PVC mold lines off of either

From where?

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding by some on how exactly these would be moulded and poured, or how mould lines actually occur....

Look dude I don't pretend to be an expert on base making AND I've already pledged my support to the Kickstart because I've gotten product from MAS before and I like it. My trepidation with any PVC based miniature comes from the last CMON Kictstart I was a part of. Mold lines on PVC models are way more of a hassle (than PS plastic) and that's all I said.

Thanks, Bossk!

Less than ten more backers to the next SG!

Tech pulling ahead! Space Hulk and Robotech bases?

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
Look dude I don't pretend to be an expert on base making AND I've already pledged my support to the Kickstart because I've gotten product from MAS before and I like it. My trepidation with any PVC based miniature comes from the last CMON Kictstart I was a part of. Mold lines on PVC models are way more of a hassle (than PS plastic) and that's all I said.

I think the misunderstanding is that these would be a 1 piece mold, not 2 piece therefore there are no mold lines. At the very least if there are 'issues' they would be at the bottom of the insert, that is unseen and inserted or glued to the actual base.