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So I guess it's confirmed, Genestealer Hybrids/Cultists are coming back?

Cause if it's true I won't waste my time sculpting my own, which I started last month (dammit!).

 mechanicalhorizon wrote:
So I guess it's confirmed, Genestealer Hybrids/Cultists are coming back?

Cause if it's true I won't waste my time sculpting my own, which I started last month (dammit!).

I understand that those may be later on

Hybrids are in the board game next week

I didnt know Space Hulk Deathwing will have hybrid enemies. I was watching an old Angry Joe interview and the developers were talking with GW for a while on bringing hybrids back. It will be interesting to see if in-game models look similar to the new plastics.

I imagine Hybrids will be like guardsmen with better WS, Initiative and attacks and will have an imperial weapon and rending claws.

Next week!? My wallet has not been prepared for this...

So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

Hmm, monopose Deathwatch? I wonder if they will be "themed", with sculpted shoulderpads - like the typical Ultramarine character, Blood Angel, Space Wolf etc, or if they will all be generic.

 the_Armyman wrote:
So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

I'd guess main from the timing (same as Execution and BaC). I believe SGS' first will be Blood Bowl.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hmm, mono-pose Deathwatch? I wonder if they will be "themed", with sculpted shoulder pads - like the typical Ultramarine character, Blood Angel, Space Wolf etc, or if they will all be generic.

My guess is generic with no chapter-specific bling, so you can pick and choose the chapters the Deathwatch team is drawn from. Same as Betrayal at Calth. But the rules will probably cover a specific group of characters.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
I didnt know Space Hulk Deathwing will have hybrid enemies. I was watching an old Angry Joe interview and the developers were talking with GW for a while on bringing hybrids back. It will be interesting to see if in-game models look similar to the new plastics.

Yes, they did confirm having Hybrids in the DW PC/Console game. Shield of Baal fluff mentioned them as well.

In the trailer for Deathwing PC from last year there were burned corpses that looked more like humans than Genestealers. I do not agree with the opinion that these could be hybrids. They look like servitors to me

I guess there would a standard 10 man squad?

Think I would much prefer sculpted chapter's rather than generic marines. Give us a salamander skin covered flamer dude and a bionic iron hands.

Someone mentioned a possible Blood Raven marine? I am also guessing an Ultramarine one would be expected but I would love to see:
Salamander flamer
Iron Hands Heavy Bolter
Black Templar and Blood Angels melee dudes
White Scar fella with kick ass scimitar.

I didnt think those bodies in the deathwing vid were hybrids either, just looked like generically burnt humans to me.

Maybe the Deathwatch miniatures will be based on the main characters from the Black Library ebook series.


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 the_Armyman wrote:
So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

We heard similiar people but it is a GW main release.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Maybe the Deathwatch miniatures will be based on the main characters from the Black Library ebook series.

Oh you utter tease...

Please make this be true. Cantankerous Lamentors Dreadnought, Soulless Exorcist etc etc

Warhams-77 wrote:
Maybe the Deathwatch miniatures will be based on the main characters from the Black Library ebook series.


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 the_Armyman wrote:
So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

We heard similiar people but it is a GW main release.

Thank you, Warhams!

Even if the characters were monopose, I think it would be cool if the set had seperate shoulder pads that you can attach to any squaddie. Offer a smattering of different pads in the box (15 shoulder pads allows for fairly diverse squads) and include an advert for all the FW/GW shoulder pads/loyalist upgrades/chapter upgrades/chapter-specific kits too and you've got something

MacMuckles wrote:
Even if the characters were monopose, I think it would be cool if the set had seperate shoulder pads that you can attach to any squaddie. Offer a smattering of different pads in the box (15 shoulder pads allows for fairly diverse squads) and include an advert for all the FW/GW shoulder pads/loyalist upgrades/chapter upgrades/chapter-specific kits too and you've got something

I agree, that would make an enormous amount of sense. I guess a big part of the reason for monopose is to keep costs down, though, and I'm guessing more parts means more cost. I'd really like to see monopose with options, like the good old days - the plastic Necromunda gangs, while not as nice as the one-piece metal figures, had that advantage, and it was fun picking out which weapons to use, etc. People love options. It makes sense. With Deathwatch, you could happily have several different combi-weapons etc to choose from, choose an axe or a sword or a chainsword, etc. Just makes the whole thing feel a bit more exciting.

Hi, just heard about this thread. Exciting prospects.

Just a few comments:
1) if you have monopose SMs to keep costs down, it would seem to make most sense that this is because they have interesting details (think SH, Dark Vengeance characters etc).

2) Having different pads for DW is essential if the minis are to give the customer some choice, but that would mean the SMs would be generic ie no tassels for SW, or tear drops for BAs etc etc. So why don't they just throw a tactical marine sprue in from their abundant supply and a few pads? Would seem to be far cheaper again - no design costs or extra production costs, they just pay for a few thousand more of their staple sprues. Now this wouldn't be exciting, unless they poured their designers time and efforts in to developing a multi-chapter upgrade sprue for a set number of chapters which would include backpacks, tassels, pelts, chapter specific weapons and combi-weapons and the aforementioned shoulder pads. Now that would be one heck of an exciting sprue to get with the ability to make a wide range of poses. And of course to stop it just being a SM chapter parade they can chuck in plastic DW pads created by using their pre-existing Finecast mould, making them DW and keeping costs low again.

3) Genestealer cult minis would be cool to see again. But would need to have the variety of stages that used to be around. Now that would be a cool nostalgia trip and would fit nicely with my old 2nd edition Tyranids

Sorry for diving in with a long message, hope it made some sense

I only hope none of the models comes from the big four. Be nice to see some pads and models for other Chapters.

How often does a DW squad have more on than one First Founding Marine anyway? Almost never?

It does Welcome to the topic, I agree with what you are saying. Monopose (well done like those in the newest Space Hulk editions) allows for more characterful miniatures. Hopefully they will turn out to be a good start for converting chapter specific character models.

 Wulfmar wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Maybe the Deathwatch miniatures will be based on the main characters from the Black Library ebook series.

Oh you utter tease...

Please make this be true. Cantankerous Lamentors Dreadnought, Soulless Exorcist etc etc

Careful, I hope I wasn't misunderstood. I don't know if this is the case. That series of short stories each based on a character just felt like a good basis for a game. Space Hulk's Blood Angel miniatures had names, portraits, little backstories and a novel, too. Maybe Black Library is already introducing the characters from the box? I'm just speculating though.

Didn't Sad Panda confirm that this game will contain a Blood Raven? My guess is that there will be at least one Ultramarine, Dark Angel, and Blood Angel(though this one is less likely with the Blood Raven). I wouldn't count on obscure chapters like the Forgeworld chapters seeing models, but you never know.

The clever thing to do would have been to include around 15 Marines that are all mono-pose (but awesome, like Space Hulk termies) but make sure that one shoulder pad is always left off, then have a sprue of about 30-40 (to allow for doubles) of a bunch of different Chapters, plus a few other bits and bobs for extras (DA, BA, Wolf iconography, etc.).

But that's a great idea, so they won't do that.

My excitement for this went down lower than my joy at seeing a new Star Wars movie 30 seconds after it ended.

General Hobbs wrote:


My excitement for this went down lower than my joy at seeing a new Star Wars movie 30 seconds after it ended.

Why is that? The possibly monopose marine(s)?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The clever thing to do.

GW. Clever. That's a good one!

But seriously. I really wish you were right though. I would love the ability to make MY Deathwatch. Though I could see the game actually having named characters the way Space Hulk did.

However, I am going to paint one or two of my Sternguard as Deathwatch Marines. Just because.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


My excitement for this went down lower than my joy at seeing a new Star Wars movie 30 seconds after it ended.

Why is that? The possibly monopose marine(s)?

That and the non Codex.

Years ago I came up with an awesome Deathwatch army based on the old WD article. Then they kiboshed the list for the GT and I had to hurry up and paint another army. I've been wanting to return to it for years, but none of the rules sets have made them viable...for a brief time when Kantor's rules applied to Blood Angels SG you could make a cool list.

But then again, the game has changed in so many ways. SG are overpriced in a game where mass fire negates the power of a 3+ save and you don't have the numbers to stand toe to toe against most armies.

I really hope that the Cult is Allies with Tyranids.

It's a fear, even after thinking over it and saying "Well golly, why wouldn't they let our Genestealer Cult fight along side us in the invasion?"
Then I remember that I play Tyranids. We don't get friends.

 the_Armyman wrote:
So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

This is main studio. It is in hard plastic and the miniatures can be used in 40K without conversions.

People underestimate the lead time on those boxed games / starter sets in plastic.

The Deatwatch game was finished by the time EF was released.
The AoS-themed boxed game you'll see this summer was finished by the time the AoS starter was released.
The second HH boxed game this fall was finished by the time Calth was released.

The specialist games studio was launched a little more than a month ago. The teased Blood Bowl stuff was probably the first work this team did after starting their new jobs in January. It will likely be among the first things they will release, and I don't think they are aiming for 2016.

I'm kinda hoping that the Deathwatch codex will be like a Build-a-Marine workshop. Modelers will be incredibly happy about those possibilities.

Sad Panda wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
So, is this another offering from the fledgling Specialist Games Studio or is this a GW Main Studio product?

This is main studio. It is in hard plastic and the miniatures can be used in 40K without conversions.

People underestimate the lead time on those boxed games / starter sets in plastic.

The Deatwatch game was finished by the time EF was released.
The AoS-themed boxed game you'll see this summer was finished by the time the AoS starter was released.
The second HH boxed game this fall was finished by the time Calth was released.

The specialist games studio was launched a little more than a month ago. The teased Blood Bowl stuff was probably the first work this team did after starting their new jobs in January. It will likely be among the first things they will release, and I don't think they are aiming for 2016.

Intrigued. The start of a campaign once the current one wraps up?