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 The Infinite wrote:
Wow, I actually like less than half of those.

There are some very "static" sculpts, I think the Riot Grrl is just, bad.

I'm happy with all of those except the Riot Grrl, which is at least consistently as dull as the pre cad sculpts.

I'm assuming we won't get new Moiras anytime soon, we know a moderator box is coming, so the question is if we should expect a new Morlock box or not.

What is that Colossus lookalike?

 tommse wrote:
What is that Colossus lookalike?

It's a Morlock.

Wow, not much in this set that interests me. The only one I would really want to own is the Sin Eater. The rest are a big pass. I guess I'll need to hit up Shae Konnit.

 Barzam wrote:
Wow, not much in this set that interests me. The only one I would really want to own is the Sin Eater. The rest are a big pass. I guess I'll need to hit up Shae Konnit.

Same here but then I realised that the Mk. 12 Sin Eater is still a good sculpt and can be used as a proxy for the Spitfire/HMG/Mk12 so I'll just pass on this box. The Morlock is also a bummer, the Morlock box is an amazing box full of miniatures in motion and this guy is the polar opposite, why they sculpted him instead of a Zero (you know, like... one of the most used units in the nomads army..) I will never know.. especially the SLGL, I've littered never seen anyone use that profile. Ever.

Am I the only one who likes the riot grrl? I find her pose quite fitting for them.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tristan228 wrote:
Regarding the information we got before there are only 3 to 4 (Lt. Moira) SWC crammed into 127 points. They should've given the Riot Grrl her deserved missile launcher to maximise the SWC to Points ratio for a starter set

Spoiler:

WYSIWYG thats the composition of the starter set
Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

5 1 1
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 33)
REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 30)
RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
MORLOCK Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 14)

3 SWC | 127 Points

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3 SWC is right for the points level of the box, though.

The "points level of the box" means what?
Whatever CB says, these items should be playable out of the box, not coupled with extraneous stuff.

We just had this whole line of debate with the Shock Army starter and its ridiculous SWC v points nonsense.

Yes, we had and your opinion is respectable, but not how it will be done.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Yes, we had and your opinion is respectable, but not how it will be done.

Then it will continue to be done in a manner that is off-putting to new blood entering the game, rather than something which is rather welcoming and easy for new players to be able to expand from.

It's been hilarious how all these years CB has taken potshots at GW, yet now GW is the one with the better fan interaction than a company which I got into because of their interaction with fans.

As always it is simply your opinion, not shared by the company and the sales numbers.

Do I need to get that bucket of cold water ready?

I would not expect the O-Yoroi pilot to release until March, meaning April availability as the soonest. This based on the list of releases that we have seen for January and February. Here is the known listing:

January or February?
Order Sergeants-- Pan-Oceania
Miranda Ashcroft-- Mercenaries
Guijia Pilot-- Yu Jing
Haqqislam Starter-- Haqqislam
Raicho Pilot-- Combined Army

January or February?
Yu Jing Starter-- Yu Jing
Hassassin Govad HMG-- Haqqislam
Moderators from Bakunin-- Nomads
Sukuel Commandos-- Tohaa
Tech-Bees-- Pan-Oceania

December
-Bakunin Starter-- seen
-Hsien MR-- unseen by me
-Tuareg Hacker-- seen
-Posthumans box -- seen
-Unknown Ranger-- seen

Colossus is nifty. Good to see the bunny-eared moderatrix. I suppose that rather than being an order monkey, this one is an order bunny? Nice concept on the Riot Grrl, the pose works, but the mini is too small for N3 HI minis. The others... Well the ASA box had that fantastic Akalis and the Montesa. Maybe CB is going for a 2/6 ratio of excellent minis to filler.

Now if the forthcoming Moderator box has the Lollipop moderatrix, all will be forgiven. And I will be buying it. I'll use it as a Trauma Doc proxy.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
As always it is simply your opinion, not shared by the company and the sales numbers.

The sales numbers which only they have, nobody else.

And while it certainly is my opinion, it's also flabbergasting that you are a moderator on their forums and have seen the various topics/discussion about this very thing and yet still try to pawn it off as "it's simply your opinion".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tristan228 wrote:
Regarding the information we got before there are only 3 to 4 (Lt. Moira) SWC crammed into 127 points. They should've given the Riot Grrl her deserved missile launcher to maximise the SWC to Points ratio for a starter set

Spoiler:

WYSIWYG thats the composition of the starter set
Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

5 1 1
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 33)
REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 30)
RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
MORLOCK Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 14)

3 SWC | 127 Points

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3 SWC is right for the points level of the box, though.

The "points level of the box" means what?
Whatever CB says, these items should be playable out of the box, not coupled with extraneous stuff.

We just had this whole line of debate with the Shock Army starter and its ridiculous SWC v points nonsense.

Yeah, and this box has a SWC cost in line with the points value of the box, completely unlike the SAA starter that you were complaining about.

Indeed they only have them and believe me if they were problematic they would try to fix them positive feedback means they do right.

Yes, some people want a GW style starter box and a structured buy this then this then this marketing something Infinity is not about these starter boxes try a different approach from the other starters you have to view them in unison with the yet unreleased support boxes designed for them.

I rather like that Bakunin box. Almost makes me want to start them.

Any idea if the Auxbot is getting any attention for the OS box?

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tristan228 wrote:
Regarding the information we got before there are only 3 to 4 (Lt. Moira) SWC crammed into 127 points. They should've given the Riot Grrl her deserved missile launcher to maximise the SWC to Points ratio for a starter set

Spoiler:

WYSIWYG thats the composition of the starter set
Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

5 1 1
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 33)
REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 30)
RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
MORLOCK Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 14)

3 SWC | 127 Points


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3 SWC is right for the points level of the box, though.

The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

Everything else in the box is good. I like the bunny ears on the female moderator just like the old HS book.

We really need a new Kusanagi to go with current Moiras. Also need a new morlock box. Hopefully those things are coming soon :-/


Side note: we saw a render of an upcoming Hsien with Multi-rifle. Do we have a projected release month for that guy yet?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

That'll be in the box. They said Riot Grrls were getting cmpletely redone, so that means a new box.

Uhm this month, if it is the Hsien-MR noted in my post above?

The only thing I've heard is that neither the auxbot nor any of the other Pan-O remotes will be getting resculpted any time soon. The current ones hold up very well.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

That'll be in the box. They said Riot Grrls were getting cmpletely redone, so that means a new box.

They sure don't look redone here. The lack of a chest piece and the faux nipples really turned me off from those models. Hopefully if they do redo them, they go with a different torso design.

 Barzam wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

That'll be in the box. They said Riot Grrls were getting cmpletely redone, so that means a new box.

They sure don't look redone here. The lack of a chest piece and the faux nipples really turned me off from those models. Hopefully if they do redo them, they go with a different torso design.

If this one doesn't have a different torso design, the rest won't.

 Barzam wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

That'll be in the box. They said Riot Grrls were getting cmpletely redone, so that means a new box.

They sure don't look redone here. The lack of a chest piece and the faux nipples really turned me off from those models. Hopefully if they do redo them, they go with a different torso design.

I believe the reason is because Nomad weapon design changed quite a lot since they were done.The unit itself isn't redesigned, at least looking at the dossier.

Ugh. Disappointed with the Bakunin Box :( Was looking forward to it so I could round out my Nomads. Like the Moria. Colossus and the female Moderator are alright, but the Riot Grrl and male Moderator are bleh.

Just looking at the him, all I can think is:

Some people came to Bakunin to superheroes, some came to be space bunnies. Stu, came to Bakunin to be the thing he always wanted to be. A cabbage.

 silent25 wrote:
Some people came to Bakunin to superheroes, some came to be space bunnies. Stu, came to Bakunin to be the thing he always wanted to be. A cabbage.

I think you're wrong here. Stu tried clearly to become a frog man, being called a cabbage makes him sad.


That guy is indeed a disappointment, his bald predecessor had a interesting pose and a Spitfire...

His green predecessor had the same gun and a shooting pose:

Changing your skin colour on Bakunin is like changing your underwear whereas total hair loss is a genetic disease even the black labs in Praxis can't get rid of. Thus it stays in the family forever.

Not the vegetable Bakunin deserved, but the one that Bakunin needed.

I'm going to call this one early and say that the Tuareg Hacker is the stand-out of the month.

So far every starter box gives me the itch to start a new force...except Bakunin. Their design and execution make me wonder why the Exrah got "squated" over task force 4chan.

I won't be building a Bakunin sectorial so I expect nothing from their releases and yet they still manage to disappoint me. Couldn't they have release something for one of the good sectorials...like Blackjacks or a Nexus Operative?

 Barzam wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
The riot grrl should have a missile launcher. We don't need yet another one with just a multi rifle.

That'll be in the box. They said Riot Grrls were getting cmpletely redone, so that means a new box.

They sure don't look redone here. The lack of a chest piece and the faux nipples really turned me off from those models. Hopefully if they do redo them, they go with a different torso design.

I actually quite like the Riot Grrl design - weird fiber bundled suits, nipples, etc - but loathe the static-as-fakk poses of the previous sculpts, and this chick here. You'd think a unit with Hyper-Dynamics would at least approach the dynamism of the typical Infinity sculpt, but thus far only the first Grrl with the spitfire has worked for me, though even then she's mostly just standing there (if being appropriately cocky).

Anyhoo, here's a little pile of hopes for the new box, leftover from my hopes for the last box

- Salvage, who really wants to paint fiber-bundles, nipples and bright hair ...

Off topic.

Do we have any idea when we can expect a new senor massacre?