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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Its probably worth saying that GW just put up the "Mighty Heroes" box, and it does say they include rules with the models.

So... slightly less doom and gloom?

But the base game already has the rules. Why would they give you duplicates?

For people who want them for AoS but have friends who bought Silver Tower? Not sure, does seem a bit odd.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Its probably worth saying that GW just put up the "Mighty Heroes" box, and it does say they include rules with the models.

So... slightly less doom and gloom?

But the base game already has the rules. Why would they give you duplicates?

Are the rules for the extra 4 heroes in a book though? maybe they are packaging actual cards with the box set.

EDIT: I only ask this because I thought the 4 expansion dudes were foil promo options only...

Assembled miniatures and played two trials. The miniatures range from great to spectacular and the gameplay was very fun. The adventure book is very well written and immersive . The app is quite handy for tracking progress. My only complaint is the lack of physical components at least so far, for the expanded cast of characters.

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Anyone else see this?

DA HELL, don't do this to me please..... just don't. I accepted their death's already don't give me hope they are coming back some point in the future.

 Manchu wrote:
Assembled miniatures and played two trials. The miniatures range from great to spectacular and the gameplay was very fun. The adventure book is very well written and immersive . The app is quite handy for tracking progress. My only complaint is the lack of physical components at least so far, for the expanded cast of characters.

Great to hear it, Manchu!

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Anyone else see this?

That has to be a cruel joke played by some 4chan photoshop wizard.

I don't care for Magic. So the value for magic to me is Zero. My son loves Magic. For him there is value. My son doesn't care for mini gaming. So no value for him in mini games. So me as a parent, where do I find the value? Why would I spend on something GW virtual stuff when that money can go to my son for his Magic. So YES there is sensible comparisons. I am finding value in something that is at a fair price for a something that is physical that my son will enjoy instead of something that is virtual that I don't feel like I own where I don't find the value in. It's free money that goes to a hobby that is not going to GW that is going to another company. So yes it is a sensible comparison.

So are you trying to say you are smarter? You are more wise? You are better? If not why use the word sensible?

Again someone trying to prove their point when it doesn't apply to them. But I love to be proved wrong, so show me how am I wrong? Again, I said in MY OPINION. Opinions are not wrong. So why do you still have to say I am wrong? In my case it's correct. In your case it doesn't apply. So just because it doesn't apply to you makes your right?

But you were saying it is like charging for air, or that these things should be free, that it is nickel and diming, or that it is the principal.

So because you are being charged for small extra bits there is a point of principal that it should be free?, that it is wrong that they charge, that it is nicklel and diming.

Then comes in a comparison to magic and how that might be better? The game which also charges extra for a few random cards, random so you do not even know what you are going to get. Packs that you will have a reason to buy many of to find the 1 piece if paper that you really want. Magic is far more into the money sucking nickel and dime approach than GW, GW is baby league next to Magic.

Sorry, but saying you don't see the value in GW expansion, but would spend money on the magic is in no way pointing to what you were first saying about principle, be free, nickel and diming. We all make many decisions every day on what we see as being 'worth it' whether it is the cheap Meat or 'Good' meat, the second hand car or new car, the PC game or GW game, Parent or Child etc. That in no way supports your statements about what GW is doing, even less when compared to Magic which uses the same marketing approach but 10 fold worse.

I get that you don't personally find value, that is a fair statement, and one that no one can object too as it is personal. Just as I don't see value in a new car when I can get one so much cheaper second hand etc.

That photo from Warhammer World? Looks like it. It'll be part of the army exhibition. Tomb Kings had one whilst I was there too. Means nothing.

First errata up for Silver Tower: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Errata/ENG_Silver_Tower_v1.0.pdf

The Silver Tower app for iOS has got an update out today, which should fix a few things! Android to follow shortly no doubt.

Chopxsticks wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Its probably worth saying that GW just put up the "Mighty Heroes" box, and it does say they include rules with the models.

So... slightly less doom and gloom?

But the base game already has the rules. Why would they give you duplicates?

Are the rules for the extra 4 heroes in a book though? maybe they are packaging actual cards with the box set.

EDIT: I only ask this because I thought the 4 expansion dudes were foil promo options only...

They're in the book, so getting the cards with the expansion makes sense.

Silver Tower is awesome. Had a great time playing a friend's copy earlier, building mine now and already have the horrors primed!! All ten (including blues and brimstone)!

I've also had a blast playing it. Everyone I've showed it to like it a lot also. Went and bought a empire bright wizard and the elite enemies so they can show up.

Very excited for the undead big box expansion slated for dec

What is this expansion ? Where does this rumour comes from?

It's been quite some time since I have had the fun of being excited for a GW game, such as this one. Looks like there is hope after all, I hope they don't pull the rug out from under it.

Are there rules to add in the chaos warriors and Blood letters, and newer chaos stuff?
I can see several different angles to play this game, and add in the other chaos powers to upgrade the threat.

Amazing stuff so far. Still not jazzed about the background, but I can see this as a pretty good successor game to the original.

Excellent effort so far, I may be in on this one....

I've been painting all sorts of Khorne related stuff, so I certainly hope I have an opportunity in this game to kill them all.

At least all my Deathbringers, Slaughterpriests, Chaos Lords and other character models will have fun taking out rival Chaos factions.

str00dles1 wrote:
I've also had a blast playing it. Everyone I've showed it to like it a lot also. Went and bought a empire bright wizard and the elite enemies so they can show up.

Very excited for the undead big box expansion slated for dec

Please elaborate.

Finally built the miniatures and played a game as well with two heroes. The rules are simple and easy to follow (even if the pictures take a huge lot of space, sometimes for nothing). You need some space to put everything at hand, especially the books that you will often consult.

The game is quite random. It's hard to predict what you will have and you need to be careful because a random event can be quickly deadly. Be sure not to explore too many rooms at once, or you can get swarmed!

It really feels like a good old "Book where you are the Hero", for those who remember them. The Adventure Book is made exactly like one, and I found it was a really great idea. Some entries are best left with the surprise of not knowing what will be the result of your decision - sure, it will only work once but when it does, it's just sweet.

The miniatures are amazing, with so many details. A warning, though; some of them will really get annoying to paint if you built every part before painting. The inside of the cloak of the priest, for example. There are also quite a few small parts that are easy to overlook. I can see why this game will not be great for boardgamers - if you're not used to build miniatures, it takes some time before you can play.

The cards are quite thin. I wish I can find some sleeves for them, because to me, they will get damaged quickly if they aren't protected. Unfortunately, you can feel GW is completely out of touch with boardgames, because none of their components is standard - size of cards don't match what is usually on the market, and so the classic sleeves won't work on them.

Some rules in the game involve a kind of "mini game" like piling some dice on each other without making them fall - if you fail, your hero fall as well and take a wound. They usually are bound to a random event or tile. Can be fun the first time, but I'm not sure it's that fun on the long term, because it slows down a bit the game. Still, you can feel they tried to put a RPG touch to their game - and it's quite a success, to me.

It's not perfect. The guide book can be quite a mess to find the rule you want to read, since it doesn't have an index. The adventure book works best if you don't know what the entries are, because some results clearly assume that you don't. The randomness makes it so the game can be easy, difficult or a deadly trap just because of the dice you rolled. The "boss monsters" are harsh if you play with a low number of heroes.

Still, it's quite a fresh air to see GW is still able to make simple yet elegant games like this one. I have good faith on replayability of this game, since the same adventure can be different just because the order you draw tiles will not be the same and random tables. So, overall, it's a success as a game, IMHO. The fact it is a cooperative game also talks a lot about the spirit behind; a lot of rules are made so that the players just have to agree what is best for them when it happens - and it resolves a lot of things just by this simple fact alone! So simple you have to think about it to make it.

 streetsamurai wrote:
What is this expansion ? Where does this rumour comes from?

Our FLGS rep for GW mentioned there will be 4 more mini expansions besides the one coming this Friday for the 4 heroes, then planned in Dec before X mass is a large box like Silver Tower, but Undead Themed.

Also talked to the local GW store on this on a different occasion and he said the same thing. Take with salts, but its pretty believable given how well Silver Tower sold

str00dles1 wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
What is this expansion ? Where does this rumour comes from?

Our FLGS rep for GW mentioned there will be 4 more mini expansions besides the one coming this Friday for the 4 heroes, then planned in Dec before X mass is a large box like Silver Tower, but Undead Themed.

Also talked to the local GW store on this on a different occasion and he said the same thing. Take with salts, but its pretty believable given how well Silver Tower sold

Damn, if true, I'm going to lose much money. Already planning to purchase the first hero expansion, if there are 4 more, I probably buy them all. Undead expansion would also be a given! Hope this turns out true.

Aye same, costly but fun.. also my box arrived this morning.. yay. Time to get modelling.

Dang...my wallet's gonna be a moth museum by the year's end....

If the expansions do come with the rules, then I'm in.

If there are full model expansions with new board sections/minis/heroes, even better.

The only thing I'm not a fan of is the iPhone app. Id rather have a cardboard piece with the characters' rules readily available, not switching between screens. The game itself is a GREAT B&P game. It's exactly what GW has claimed to want to do all this time. Feels like a cross between current SH and 3rd edition Talisman, honestly. Makes m quite happy as a board gamer. Having additional models for my daemons is just icing on the cake.

And now the Silver Tower Android app is updated also.

So, how long before someone makes printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards?

 Barzam wrote:
So, how long before someone makes printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards?

How long before GW cracks down on people making printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards would also be an applicable question.

Now, homebrewed custom characters? That I can totally see happening.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
So, how long before someone makes printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards?

How long before GW cracks down on people making printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards would also be an applicable question.

Now, homebrewed custom characters? That I can totally see happening.

I cant see them cracking down on this. Anyone with a scanner can scan the page of the book into a PC and print it.

Biggest plus side to the tower for me was the boost on my tzeentch daemons.


And on a bigger plus, the priest comes with a gryph-hound, and they are on eBay for £8.
So finally adding to my unit of them
Was impossible to find them on bits sites.

Chopxsticks wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
So, how long before someone makes printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards?

How long before GW cracks down on people making printable pdfs of the other hero stat cards would also be an applicable question.

Now, homebrewed custom characters? That I can totally see happening.

I cant see them cracking down on this. Anyone with a scanner can scan the page of the book into a PC and print it.

Wouldn't even need to go into all that effort. Load them up in the app, press the home and lock button at the same time. Instant scan of the Hero card.

Edit- I see they keep the info on different 'tabs' in the app. Nothing a bit of Photoshop can't fix.

 Manchu wrote:

I only saw this pic in the OP - could someone tell me what the model on the left is, and if it's out yet (and if not, when it will be?). Looks like a sweet not-too-large ogre that I could make good use of