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then to really show their flexibility, they claim to be the party that freed the slaves and was for all the social movements, then they did the southern strategy and became the party of racists who will quote Martin Luther King and claim he's a republican and would support their party.
As a Southerner, I can tell you that this is complete bull and complete nonsense.
The South was always a strong bastion of corrupt Democratic party machines running off populism and cronyism, and that remains true in much of the rural South today. In Southern cities, the Democratic party machines are run either by ultra-liberals, mob-influenced labor unions, or crooked race-baiters. The Republican Party has made major inroads at the State level in the South since the mid to late 1970's. But County and city politics tends to be dominated by the Democrats. And they are a force to be reckoned with, all the way to the State capitals.
And go back and re-read your history. Jim Crow and Segregation was a product of the Democratic Party in the South. Most of your major players in the Klan were Democrats, and active in Democratic politics.
Meanwhile the Republicans have put up a complete race baiter for President, who seems to think that minorities will ignore his race baiting because reasons. That's not really that different from the mentality of Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, who for years have tried to paint the Democrats as a real racists and the Republican party as the party that freed the slaves and therefore completely unracist.
If anything you ably demonstrated the complete flaw of equating the present with the past, which just means you've played right into the criticism you were responding to.
And as for "uneducated", I could say the same for those who drink the media Kool-Aid, and claim that Clinton is the paragon of virtue and honesty.
I dont know of anyone who claims that Hillary is a paragon of virtue. She isnt. She is a divisive, conniving, spiteful, two faced politician who will toss good people under the bus for her own good. Few deny this. People do however point out that a lot of stuff thrown at her doesnt actually have any real merit.
All they while, bastards like George Soros laugh all the way to the bank. Trump is no saint, and giant blowhard. But I would prefer a douche like Trump over a cutthroat career politician like Hillary Clinton. People are backing Trump because A: They are sick and tired of the political establishment in the United States (I count myself as one of these) and want some fresh blood in the pot.
So, theyll take a NYC tycoon who travels in many of the same circles as Clinton (remember...Trump invitied Hillary to his wedding), who seems to have to end of personal issues, with a past no less shady and arguably much worse than Clinton, who cannot maintain the undivodes support of a party once renknowned for its discipline and unity, simply because he hasnt held political office before?
Sounds like cutting off one's nose just to spite their face.
Just because you dont like Hillary doesnt mean that Trump is a viable alternative. I dont like Hillary. I wont be voting for her. But I will not vote for Trump and would take Hillary over Trump in a hearbeat. The me of 24 months ago would be shocked at that statement, but Trump is just no a reasonable alternative.
Or...B: Trump speaks to his supporters on their level ("the average joe"), has celebrity appeal, and appeals to populism (this last one is not necessarily a good thing, in my view). The notion that Trump supporters are a bunch of uneducated racists and xenophobes is more BS from controlled (i.e. bought and paid for) mega-media organs that are getting less and less relevant thanks to the relative freedom, and exchange of free ideas, on that wonderous thing known as "the internet".
Or, its from real life experience. I explained the situation with my cousin in a post bove, and of the Trump supporters I personally know he's not that far off from the norm. I love many of them, they are friends and family, but, at least personally, they are either all 60+ and wish it were 1955 or have no education beyond high school (if that). When you go to online forums of Trump supporters, be it on Reddit, 4chan, facebook or others, they are populated overwhelmingly by either the very old or those without college degrees or other post HS education.
I do not personally know a single person with a college degree under 70 who is voting Trump.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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infinite_array wrote: Hey, today I learned that a father and a son presidential team (with 8 years in between their terms) and a husband and wife team (with 16 years in between their terms) are dynasties!
Or maybe someone needs to tone down the exaggerations.
John Adams and John Quincy Adams.
George Bush and George W Bush, with Jeb Bush running for president, but failing...
Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton.
John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, who was obviously unsuccessful...
Franklin Roosevelt, and Teddy Roosevelt. Ok, they were cousins, but still related...
True, we're not exactly into Queen Victoria and 67 years territory, but IMO, the USA is not far off a dynasty in my book.
@Do_I_Not_Like_That: I sincerely hope Clinton loses. She would have already dropped out if not for collusion and extreme hardcore partisanship. The more Wikileaks keeps releasing the more dark a Clinton presidency looks.
By the way, one of Assange's "Dead Man's Switch"es went off and a 87 gigabyte file is available to the public via torrent. It has a lot of interesting files, including oddball stuff on Steve Jobs, Merkel and others. Assange is alleged to have more of these lying in wait just in case....so if the information that John Kerry tried to force Ecuador to hand over Assange is true, then John Kerry just literally screwed himself and everyone else.
In Clinton's defence, at least you know what you're getting with a Clinton administration.
A few cruise missiles lobbed into the desert, a few camels blown up, needless antagonism with Russia, and a continuation of Obama's domestic policies...
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout.
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
I would rather be ruled by law than but Religious bigotry.
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
You take that back! Hillary Clinton isn't orange.
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The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
I would rather be ruled by law than but Religious bigotry.
I would rather be ruled by law as well. If only the Clintons had to follow the same rules we did.
When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout.
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
Why do you trust him?
trump only thinks of trump, he cares nothing for anything else. he lies more than hillary, he won't build a wall. he will cut taxes to the benefit of himself and his company and to the destruction of the middle class. his children will run on his company on his behalf, the ultimate in collusion benefits and insider trading.
What do you trust in him to do? other than to continue cheating on his wife and sexually assaulting women?
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
I would rather be ruled by law than but Religious bigotry.
I would rather be ruled by law as well. If only the Clintons had to follow the same rules we did.
But she also isn't the one trying to changed Laws based on a religion.
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
A lot more like you're trusting a petulant, delusional, thin-skinned, mercurial, emotionally immature, narcissistic, xenophobic, misogynistic, bullying pervert...I'm sorry, at this point a monkey on a rock is more attractive.
gorgon wrote:I doubt Texas flips for this race, but it could happen in the next decade or so thanks to changing demographics.
The GOP badly needs a course correction -- and it will eventually happen -- but it's hard to see exactly who would be able to lead that charge right now. They need a charismatic, inspiring leader for the party, and they haven't had one of those since Reagan.
The GOP is, in many ways, self selecting itself out of existence on a national level. The base turns violently on anyone who strays from the ever more extreme dogma that alienates vast segments of the population, while the establishment can no longer control that base and has lost their confidence. Their reputation as the party of discipline and unity is...long gone, and its increasingly turning into a party or rural and suburban whites vs almost literally everyone else.
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: If Clinton wins, let it be by a landslide, because a narrow Clinton victory would be an utter disaster for the USA...
Accusations of rigged elections would be the least of America's worries. A whole can of worms would be unleashed with a narrow Clinton victory, and nobody wants to go there...
It really wouldn't. Most Americans still take our laws and institutions seriously and won't fall prey to silly, vast conspiracy theories. Besides, all but the Trumpiest Trumpers have already accepted that Hillary is going to win the election. No conspiracies required.
There are those who won't accept the results and invent all kinds of nonsense. That stuff was all over the place during BILL'S presidency. But those people tend to be fairly ineffectual, powerless individuals (hence the attraction to conspiracies), and if our system can't handle the thoughts and actions of those folks, we deserve to go under.
gorgon wrote: Okay...that was weird. Made a post, showed up as double posts. Deleted one...and now both are gone. Is it a CONSPIRACY to silence me? Hmm. Anyhoo....
It's a glitch that happens from time to time.
Next time, don't do anything. The DakkaDakka code will dump the duplicate thread and leave you with one post. Quality is not guaranteed.
Just a thought. When Clinton wins that's going to make three of the highest profile countries in the 'West' (not counting Latin America) that have women leaders.
Merkel, May and Clinton.
Interesting times.
infinite_array wrote: Hey, today I learned that a father and a son presidential team (with 8 years in between their terms) and a husband and wife team (with 16 years in between their terms) are dynasties!
Or maybe someone needs to tone down the exaggerations.
John Adams and John Quincy Adams.
George Bush and George W Bush, with Jeb Bush running for president, but failing...
Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton.
John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, who was obviously unsuccessful...
Franklin Roosevelt, and Teddy Roosevelt. Ok, they were cousins, but still related...
True, we're not exactly into Queen Victoria and 67 years territory, but IMO, the USA is not far off a dynasty in my book.
@Do_I_Not_Like_That: I sincerely hope Clinton loses. She would have already dropped out if not for collusion and extreme hardcore partisanship. The more Wikileaks keeps releasing the more dark a Clinton presidency looks.
By the way, one of Assange's "Dead Man's Switch"es went off and a 87 gigabyte file is available to the public via torrent. It has a lot of interesting files, including oddball stuff on Steve Jobs, Merkel and others. Assange is alleged to have more of these lying in wait just in case....so if the information that John Kerry tried to force Ecuador to hand over Assange is true, then John Kerry just literally screwed himself and everyone else.
In Clinton's defence, at least you know what you're getting with a Clinton administration.
A few cruise missiles lobbed into the desert, a few camels blown up, needless antagonism with Russia, and a continuation of Obama's domestic policies...
She did play a large part in the destabilization and overthrow of the Lybian government and the subsequent chaos there. ISIS pretty much owns that country now thanks to her.
“Yes, and I know one,” Cuban said. “And it just didn’t happen recently. My friend reminded me, and it was from 2000. And she, you know, I don’t expect her to come forward. I wouldn’t recommend she come forward. I know somebody else from two years ago that won’t come forward. So, you know, it’s not anything that caught me by surprise.”
Cuban added, “I can tell you, my friend that was dating this one woman, just reminded me of the story they told me right after it happened. They put it all down in detail and obviously I remembered it. And then I had another person who contacted me after the race started and told me a story. I don’t want to go into it, it’s all second- and third-hand, other than to say it’s factually true. I don’t have any doubts that what we’re hearing is true.”
Over the past few weeks, at least 10 women have come forward to accuse Trump of sexual assault, harassment or impropriety going as far back as the 1970s. Their voices have given volume to a chorus of women who had previously publicly accused Trump of sexual abuse. Cuban's statements align with remarks from civil rights lawyer Gloria Allred, who says numerous women have contacted her about Trump’s sexual abuse.
“One more thing before I introduce this genius of comedy,” Madonna said to the crowd before Schumer came onstage. “If you vote for Hillary Clinton, I will give you a blow job — and I am good.”
The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
You mean the orange carrot who is a compulsive career criminal?
Also, why do you think that change for the sake of change is a good idea? An unknown evil can be much worse than the known evil, and with Trump that seems pretty likely. It's insane to take that risk just because you want to see something different.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Easy E wrote: Regarding "What happens to the R party after Trump?"
Just remember, Conservatism never fails, it can only be failed. After Trump loses, the establishment will try to sweep it all under the rug and simply claim Trump lost because he wasn't Conservative enough! Of course, what that actually means is pretty unclear. They will then go back to doing exactly what they have been doing since W was president and focus on winning state houses, state's governorship, and House seats.
Is the base going to let them do that, however? Trump's given a large percentage of the Republican's base a very loud, very angry voice - something the other dozen and a half members of the clown car primary race didn't. And now that Trump and Trump backers are feuding with the Establishment GOP, they might do some serious damage to GOP strongholds. Just look at the Senate and how Trump's calling for his supporters to ignore downballot GOP votes as a part of his insurrection.
The ideal scenario, in my mind, is that the Republicans dump the Trump supporters and move into the Democratic Party. Then the Democrats split into two new parties - a socially liberal, fiscally conservative party, and a socially liberal, fiscally liberal party.
You're joking - but one of my Republican friends recently joined the Democratic party for exacly that reason - that it will be 'easier to move the Democrats closer to the right than to move the Republican party closer to the sane'.
He was not happy with any of the front runners in the Republican primary, and is extremely unhappy with Maine governor Paul LePage.
This is a man that has been a Republican for about as long as I have been alive, but this year drove him out.
And, yes, Maine has a referendum up for ranked balloting - I am very much hoping that it passes.
The Auld Grump
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The Airman wrote: That's true, but at this point it's probably best to have a change in the way we do things. It's a known evil (Clinton) versus an unknown evil (Trump).
I'm trusting an unethical orange carrot over a compulsive career criminal this time.
Q: What's the difference between Donald Trump and Cthulhu?
A: One has a bunch of insane followers that want to destroy everything. The other is Cthulhu.
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
Yup.
While one can justifiably stick Hillary with a wide range of labels representing most ills of elected government, Trump, for his own part, fits the Fascist label like a glove.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
Yea we can do without calling the candidates Fascist or Communist thanks.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I suspect that the hyperbolic nature of current political discourse has ripely presented its own absurdity by showing how calling everyone on the right a fascist and everyone on the left a communist prevents such labels from being meaningfully used when an actual fascist starts running for president.
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
Yea we can do without calling the candidates Fascist or Communist thanks.
yea what frazz said, and if we're going to be nice, avoiding hitlary as well, that'd be greeeaaaaat.
infinite_array wrote: Hey, today I learned that a father and a son presidential team (with 8 years in between their terms) and a husband and wife team (with 16 years in between their terms) are dynasties!
Or maybe someone needs to tone down the exaggerations.
John Adams and John Quincy Adams.
George Bush and George W Bush, with Jeb Bush running for president, but failing...
Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton.
John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, who was obviously unsuccessful...
Franklin Roosevelt, and Teddy Roosevelt. Ok, they were cousins, but still related...
True, we're not exactly into Queen Victoria and 67 years territory, but IMO, the USA is not far off a dynasty in my book.
@Do_I_Not_Like_That: I sincerely hope Clinton loses. She would have already dropped out if not for collusion and extreme hardcore partisanship. The more Wikileaks keeps releasing the more dark a Clinton presidency looks.
By the way, one of Assange's "Dead Man's Switch"es went off and a 87 gigabyte file is available to the public via torrent. It has a lot of interesting files, including oddball stuff on Steve Jobs, Merkel and others. Assange is alleged to have more of these lying in wait just in case....so if the information that John Kerry tried to force Ecuador to hand over Assange is true, then John Kerry just literally screwed himself and everyone else.
In Clinton's defence, at least you know what you're getting with a Clinton administration.
A few cruise missiles lobbed into the desert, a few camels blown up, needless antagonism with Russia, and a continuation of Obama's domestic policies...
She did play a large part in the destabilization and overthrow of the Lybian government and the subsequent chaos there. ISIS pretty much owns that country now thanks to her.
US-backed government militia in Libya are pushing forward in their battle to expel ISIS from the coastal Libyan city of Sirte, despite ongoing attacks from the terror group.
Faced with a shrinking grip throughout the country, ISIS fighters are stepping up their assaults on Libyan forces by deploying lethal IEDs.
The terror group is also increasing the number of suicide attacks and snipers in a bid to hamper soldiers loyal to the UN-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli.
Lot of media are saying it is pretty much over for ISIS in Libya? I guess that dog doesn't hunt anymore.
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I would argue that one could correctly call Trump a Fascist in the political theory dictionary meaning of the word, in much the same way one could use the label on someone like Putin too (authoritarian strongman built around a cult of personality, running on a nationalist and socially conservative platform in oligarchical cahoots with some sectors of private industry and promising a return to a glorified past). Clinton is often callled a Communist, but doesnt fit that definition in the same way, despite whatever else one could reasonably label her (divisive, shifty, ruthless, unaccountable, etc).
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
All he needs to do is be generically "rebellious", and people can project their own personal rebellion onto him. He's the political equivalent of Bella Swan.
"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich."
The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
Yea we can do without calling the candidates Fascist or Communist thanks.
Or without calling someone a criminal when there's been no trial or conviction of a crime. Crazy old jurisprudence.
infinite_array wrote: Hey, today I learned that a father and a son presidential team (with 8 years in between their terms) and a husband and wife team (with 16 years in between their terms) are dynasties!
Or maybe someone needs to tone down the exaggerations.
John Adams and John Quincy Adams.
George Bush and George W Bush, with Jeb Bush running for president, but failing...
Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton.
John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, who was obviously unsuccessful...
Franklin Roosevelt, and Teddy Roosevelt. Ok, they were cousins, but still related...
True, we're not exactly into Queen Victoria and 67 years territory, but IMO, the USA is not far off a dynasty in my book.
@Do_I_Not_Like_That: I sincerely hope Clinton loses. She would have already dropped out if not for collusion and extreme hardcore partisanship. The more Wikileaks keeps releasing the more dark a Clinton presidency looks.
By the way, one of Assange's "Dead Man's Switch"es went off and a 87 gigabyte file is available to the public via torrent. It has a lot of interesting files, including oddball stuff on Steve Jobs, Merkel and others. Assange is alleged to have more of these lying in wait just in case....so if the information that John Kerry tried to force Ecuador to hand over Assange is true, then John Kerry just literally screwed himself and everyone else.
In Clinton's defence, at least you know what you're getting with a Clinton administration.
A few cruise missiles lobbed into the desert, a few camels blown up, needless antagonism with Russia, and a continuation of Obama's domestic policies...
She did play a large part in the destabilization and overthrow of the Lybian government and the subsequent chaos there. ISIS pretty much owns that country now thanks to her.
US-backed government militia in Libya are pushing forward in their battle to expel ISIS from the coastal Libyan city of Sirte, despite ongoing attacks from the terror group.
Faced with a shrinking grip throughout the country, ISIS fighters are stepping up their assaults on Libyan forces by deploying lethal IEDs.
The terror group is also increasing the number of suicide attacks and snipers in a bid to hamper soldiers loyal to the UN-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli.
Lot of media are saying it is pretty much over for ISIS in Libya? I guess that dog doesn't hunt anymore.
Yep! That "dog" has been getting it's ass kicked in Libya since the beginning of the year. But explaining that FACT destroys one of the many fantasies the anti-HRC crowd constantly lean on and we know how that group loves it's fantasies.
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The sad and strange thing about the GOP's 20-year quest for ideological purity is that it ended up with Trump, who has no real, identifiable ideology.
Trump is clearly fascist. Not a fascist, perhaps, it doesn't really make any difference, but his constant appeals to strength, past greatness, masculinity and white supremacy are very much identifiable.
Yea we can do without calling the candidates Fascist or Communist thanks.
yea what frazz said, and if we're going to be nice, avoiding hitlary as well, that'd be greeeaaaaat.
I am very agreeable to that. Misspellings on my part exempted as I type as good as you would expect a blind neanderthal to type.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Vaktathi wrote: I would argue that one could correctly call Trump a Fascist in the political theory dictionary meaning of the word, in much the same way one could use the label on someone like Putin too (authoritarian strongman built around a cult of personality, running on a nationalist and socially conservative platform in oligarchical cahoots with some sectors of private industry and promising a return to a glorified past). Clinton is often callled a Communist, but doesnt fit that definition in the same way, despite whatever else one could reasonably label her (divisive, shifty, ruthless, unaccountable, etc).
I'd say more fascistic noting the crony capitalism.
Again lets just not go there ok.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
