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Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 10:34:22


Post by: HorticulusDK


Happy 2018 everyone and thank you for the thread reds8n !

This release schedule is circulating on the Internet. It seems to be based on the Bolter and Chainsword poster that correctly predicted Daemons and Custodes.

So we can expect in February-March :

- Malign Portents campaign book.
- 4 Harbingers.
- Battletome Legions Of Nagash.
- Reboxed sceneries.

Then in April-May-June :

- Two Aelf armies (fitting the numerous Rumor Engines we got last years).

The this summer :

- A global campaign, still tied to Malign Portents and death because of "Souls War", by Josh Reynolds, out June 2018.

(The boxed game could be AOS, Warhammer Underworlds or Warhammer Quest)


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Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 10:40:13


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Yeah, not buying that. Why is neither Malign Portents or the Harbringers or new death models listed? Where is the other Malign Portents stuff as we've been told the event will be stretched over months? And why the slowdown in 40k codices? Nah, that's fake as all hell.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 10:49:26


Post by: HorticulusDK


Where do you see a slowdown ? It's all the codexes GW said they'll release till the summer.

The Bolter and Chainsword original poster said he didn't know much about February, and was probably mostly talking about 40k : that could explain the lack of MP and AOS things (even if I think we won't see more AOS models than the one I listed until April-May)

BTW the Shadepisre warbands for February are confirmed by Lady Atia too : https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2679


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Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 10:55:35


Post by: Mymearan


Happy 2018! This is going to be a huge year for AoS


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 10:55:39


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Only two codices between May and June? That's quite the slowdown. Yeah we already know about the Shadespire war bands. The order forms were seen before Atia talked about it. But the lack of Malign Portents and Slaneesh kills this for me. The AoS facebook page already confirmed multiple books and models for this. And the Slaneesh event for summer was already told to us. If the Aelves are coming out then, I would expect something Slaneeshi to be showing at the same time.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:24:53


Post by: Ancient Otter


Does reds8n or another mod wanna maybe put 2018 in the thread tile to stop people starting multiple news threads?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:29:24


Post by: Hanskrampf


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Only two codices between May and June? That's quite the slowdown. Yeah we already know about the Shadespire war bands. The order forms were seen before Atia talked about it. But the lack of Malign Portents and Slaneesh kills this for me. The AoS facebook page already confirmed multiple books and models for this. And the Slaneesh event for summer was already told to us. If the Aelves are coming out then, I would expect something Slaneeshi to be showing at the same time.


What Slaanesh event? Got a link?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:42:05


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:44:29


Post by: shinros


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Right if there is an event dealing with slaanesh even if I am a undead fan in AOS, for slaanesh sake I am going chaos and everyone else should as well. How cool would it be if slaanesh ends up the strongest chaos god in AOS because of it?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:44:57


Post by: unmercifulconker


If it turns out to be Slaanesh Aelves vs Cthulu Aelves then I will melt. Unless people got confused and the Cthulu themed Aelves are the Slaanesh worshippers.

Well February is an expensive month.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:46:20


Post by: shinros


Oh new malign portents story is up.

https://malignportents.com/story/story-two/

Spoiler:
Knights excelsior please never change. I like those zealous white guys and gals. Also he prayed to the wrong god should of bent the knee to the undying king.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:50:39


Post by: Arbitrator


 shinros wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Right if there is an event dealing with slaanesh even if I am a undead fan in AOS, for slaanesh sake I am going chaos and everyone else should as well. How cool would it be if slaanesh ends up the strongest chaos god in AOS because of it?

Seems more like they know the sheer number of Order/Sigmarines, especially if there's an Elf release immediately prior, would skew the results into a massive victory for them.

Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:57:02


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


They're not squatting Slaanesh.

Please stop talking BoLS


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:57:39


Post by: Lord Kragan


 Arbitrator wrote:


Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"


Boy do you guys seem obssessed with the squatting of Slaanesh. At this point it almost seems you want GW to do it.



Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 11:59:14


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 Arbitrator wrote:
 shinros wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Right if there is an event dealing with slaanesh even if I am a undead fan in AOS, for slaanesh sake I am going chaos and everyone else should as well. How cool would it be if slaanesh ends up the strongest chaos god in AOS because of it?

Seems more like they know the sheer number of Order/Sigmarines, especially if there's an Elf release immediately prior, would skew the results into a massive victory for them.

Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"


Considering the gods in AoS and 40k are the same, this line of obsession is not going to happen unless they wipe Slaneesh out of 40k too. And that's not going to happen. So quit with the trolling.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:07:05


Post by: SKR.HH


 shinros wrote:
Oh new malign portents story is up.

https://malignportents.com/story/story-two/

Spoiler:
Knights excelsior please never change. I like those zealous white guys and gals. Also he prayed to the wrong god should of bent the knee to the undying king.


Question: What are they referencing with "[a] statue forged from gleaming metal, rain pouring in rivulets down its stark, white armour. Rippling arcs of lightning swirled around its form, and the warhammer it clutched in one enormous fist."?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:08:34


Post by: Lord Kragan


SKR.HH wrote:
 shinros wrote:
Oh new malign portents story is up.

https://malignportents.com/story/story-two/

Spoiler:
Knights excelsior please never change. I like those zealous white guys and gals. Also he prayed to the wrong god should of bent the knee to the undying king.


Question: What are they referencing with "[a] statue forged from gleaming metal, rain pouring in rivulets down its stark, white armour. Rippling arcs of lightning swirled around its form, and the warhammer it clutched in one enormous fist."?


A knight excelsior doing what knight excelsiors usually do: kill everyone in sight just in case they are tainted.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:11:10


Post by: SKR.HH


Lord Kragan wrote:
SKR.HH wrote:
 shinros wrote:
Oh new malign portents story is up.

https://malignportents.com/story/story-two/

Spoiler:
Knights excelsior please never change. I like those zealous white guys and gals. Also he prayed to the wrong god should of bent the knee to the undying king.


Question: What are they referencing with "[a] statue forged from gleaming metal, rain pouring in rivulets down its stark, white armour. Rippling arcs of lightning swirled around its form, and the warhammer it clutched in one enormous fist."?


A knight excelsior doing what knight excelsiors usually do: kill everyone in sight just in case they are tainted.


So... 'statue' is not to be taken literally or did I miss something about the Knight Excelsior?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:12:56


Post by: Lord Kragan


SKR.HH wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
SKR.HH wrote:
 shinros wrote:
Oh new malign portents story is up.

https://malignportents.com/story/story-two/

Spoiler:
Knights excelsior please never change. I like those zealous white guys and gals. Also he prayed to the wrong god should of bent the knee to the undying king.


Question: What are they referencing with "[a] statue forged from gleaming metal, rain pouring in rivulets down its stark, white armour. Rippling arcs of lightning swirled around its form, and the warhammer it clutched in one enormous fist."?


A knight excelsior doing what knight excelsiors usually do: kill everyone in sight just in case they are tainted.


So... 'statue' is not to be taken literally or did I miss something about the Knight Excelsior?


No, it shouldn't be taken literally.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:18:02


Post by: Chikout


I think the bit being referred to is the 24 live stream during the run up to the launch of 8th of 40k. During that event Jeremy Vetock mentioned that he had seen Slaanesh models and that they would have a part to play in the future. I watched that segment live.
I don't he was supposed to talk about this as that section of the live stream is mysteriously missing from the archive.
No mention was made of a campaign, a time frame or Aos. It just served as proof enough for me that new Slaanesh minis are eventually coming.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:46:58


Post by: tneva82


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Only two codices between May and June? That's quite the slowdown. Yeah we already know about the Shadespire war bands. The order forms were seen before Atia talked about it. But the lack of Malign Portents and Slaneesh kills this for me. The AoS facebook page already confirmed multiple books and models for this. And the Slaneesh event for summer was already told to us. If the Aelves are coming out then, I would expect something Slaneeshi to be showing at the same time.


Well that list covers up to june...Which is only one out of 3 summer months.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:55:33


Post by: NinthMusketeer


If there are two Aelf army releases, I am expecting Shadowkin and a counterpart from the realm of Light. We have armies from all the realms save those two at this point.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 12:55:55


Post by: TheDraconicLord


Chikout wrote:
I think the bit being referred to is the 24 live stream during the run up to the launch of 8th of 40k. During that event Jeremy Vetock mentioned that he had seen Slaanesh models and that they would have a part to play in the future. I watched that segment live.
I don't he was supposed to talk about this as that section of the live stream is mysteriously missing from the archive.
No mention was made of a campaign, a time frame or Aos. It just served as proof enough for me that new Slaanesh minis are eventually coming.


I don't recall what event it was last year, but it was confirmed we would know the fate of Slaanesh this year. That's it, they didn't say when exactly, only 2018.

Rumoured Cthulhu Elves and Slaanesh in the same year? Gods, I hope not, my wallet couldn't take that kind of beating.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:00:48


Post by: DarkBlack


Arbitrator wrote:Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"



Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.

My guess would be another December-January Chaos release; but possibly with hints and hype from mid-year.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:29:14


Post by: Geifer


 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Chikout wrote:
I think the bit being referred to is the 24 live stream during the run up to the launch of 8th of 40k. During that event Jeremy Vetock mentioned that he had seen Slaanesh models and that they would have a part to play in the future. I watched that segment live.
I don't he was supposed to talk about this as that section of the live stream is mysteriously missing from the archive.
No mention was made of a campaign, a time frame or Aos. It just served as proof enough for me that new Slaanesh minis are eventually coming.


I don't recall what event it was last year, but it was confirmed we would know the fate of Slaanesh this year. That's it, they didn't say when exactly, only 2018.

Rumoured Cthulhu Elves and Slaanesh in the same year? Gods, I hope not, my wallet couldn't take that kind of beating.


Seems like a perfect fit to me. Tentacles and Slaanesh go together like... umm... you know.

 DarkBlack wrote:
Arbitrator wrote:Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"



Come on. GW worked really hard to earn people's ire. They deserve reaping the rewards...

But to be a bit more serious, it is a problem of GW's making. Slaanesh has not been blessed with the biggest (mortal) range in either system, and has not received much lore early on. Getting the idea that Slaanesh is squatted out of people's minds requires one thing: action on GW's part. Until we see that, it's just not going to go away.

 DarkBlack wrote:
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.

My guess would be another December-January Chaos release; but possibly with hints and hype from mid-year.


Seems a bit late to me, to be honest. Last year saw a new 40k edition, so this year should be Age of Sigmar focused again as far as the big summer release is concerned. GW seems to have stuck to alternating between AoS (and Fantasy before that) and 40k for the last years. Coupled with giving all Chaos factions a turn in getting a large update it makes sense to me to get some Slaanesh stuff out of the way in summer and fall just like in last year's 40k year we saw mortal Nurgle forces with cross-compatible daemons and Age of Sigmar mortals making an appearance at the tail end of this release.

We also can't rule out that GW's repeats what they did with Deathwatch Overkill and to a lesser degree the characters (well, snail rider guy really) from Blight War, giving us a taste of things that will only see a proper release half a year later. This has not beena consistent approach by any stretch, but GW proved they are willing to do this.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:35:06


Post by: Galas


The malignan portents story was great, but the spanish version lacked the two last lines, literally the most important ones


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:40:17


Post by: Kanluwen


 Geifer wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.

My guess would be another December-January Chaos release; but possibly with hints and hype from mid-year.


Seems a bit late to me, to be honest. Last year saw a new 40k edition, so this year should be Age of Sigmar focused again as far as the big summer release is concerned. GW seems to have stuck to alternating between AoS (and Fantasy before that) and 40k for the last years. Coupled with giving all Chaos factions a turn in getting a large update it makes sense to me to get some Slaanesh stuff out of the way in summer and fall just like in last year's 40k year we saw mortal Nurgle forces with cross-compatible daemons and Age of Sigmar mortals making an appearance at the tail end of this release.

We also can't rule out that GW's repeats what they did with Deathwatch Overkill and to a lesser degree the characters (well, snail rider guy really) from Blight War, giving us a taste of things that will only see a proper release half a year later. This has not beena consistent approach by any stretch, but GW proved they are willing to do this.

I think comparing Overkill to Blight War isn't the right tact. I'd say the better comparison would be Death Masque, Stormclaw, etc.
The bundle boxes where it came with half an army each and a "unique" character model to that box.
Overkill was a self-contained boardgame with stuff that could be used in 40k.
Blight War is just a trimmed down/"alternate" starter set.

Anyways, I think it important to remind people that it wasn't "Cthulu Elves" that was mentioned when we got the rumors. It was describing them as "Lovecraftian", and at that time there was a preview of a tentacle(which we later had ID'd as part of the Necromunda objective/scenery bits), and certain posters who kept harping about Cthulu, Cthulu, Cthulu.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:41:57


Post by: Mr Morden


slightly confused :(

Spoiler:
So its a Stormcast attacking Verric (?) - because is a worshiper of Alarielle or somethng else?


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:44:30


Post by: Baron Klatz


@Galas,
Really? That stinks. :/

Hope there's enough complaints that they fix that.

Anyway, looks like a great year ahead. Surprised at the possibility of so much 40k stuff at the beginning of the year.

Aelves I'm suspecting will be like the Sylvaneth and Ironjaws side-by-side release. One's going to be big and combine new and some older models while the other will be elite and smaller. That's my guess though.

So I'm certainly hyped for it all.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:49:11


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Mr Morden wrote:
slightly confused :(

Spoiler:
So its a Stormcast attacking Verric (?) - because is a worshiper of Alarielle or somethng else?
Spoiler:
It seems likely that it is because the village is infected with some sort of Nurgle plague (or perhaps more). The white armor indicates Knights Excelsior, who are notorious hardasses when it comes to dealing with Chaos. They are somewhat like 40k Inquisitors, seeing the death of innocents as justified in beating back corruption. The City of Secrets novel does a good job of portraying them, they aren't very nice. Basically it seems that they are conducting a very tiny exterminatus on the village.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 13:57:17


Post by: shinros


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
slightly confused :(

Spoiler:
So its a Stormcast attacking Verric (?) - because is a worshiper of Alarielle or somethng else?
Spoiler:
It seems likely that it is because the village is infected with some sort of Nurgle plague (or perhaps more). The white armor indicates Knights Excelsior, who are notorious hardasses when it comes to dealing with Chaos. They are somewhat like 40k Inquisitors, seeing the death of innocents as justified in beating back corruption. The City of Secrets novel does a good job of portraying them, they aren't very nice. Basically it seems that they are conducting a very tiny exterminatus on the village.


Yup

Spoiler:
In the campaign books they largely believe things that are not wrought from ayzr are prone to corruption. The Lord Veritant in city of secrets is known as the white reaper, they also don't mingle with people they sit in the stormkeeps all day until they need to make war or purge people. I mean it makes sense this is happening now since cities and towns are coming back chaos can be more insidious again instead of open warfare.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 14:30:58


Post by: Arbitrator


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 shinros wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Right if there is an event dealing with slaanesh even if I am a undead fan in AOS, for slaanesh sake I am going chaos and everyone else should as well. How cool would it be if slaanesh ends up the strongest chaos god in AOS because of it?

Seems more like they know the sheer number of Order/Sigmarines, especially if there's an Elf release immediately prior, would skew the results into a massive victory for them.

Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"


Considering the gods in AoS and 40k are the same, this line of obsession is not going to happen unless they wipe Slaneesh out of 40k too. And that's not going to happen. So quit with the trolling.

After destroying the Old World, I'm more surprised people are so adamant it couldn't happen.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 14:35:53


Post by: Baron Klatz


The death of a chaos god is several magnitudes bigger than the destruction of one meager world.

Besides, there's too much Slaanesh content in AoS for them to do it. A true squatting wouldn't even set up the plotline.

It'd just be "Slaanesh was killed off and all it's vile daemons and armies disintegrated with it".

In contrast we get constant Slaanesh warband and daemon activity and a chaos power struggle.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 14:37:30


Post by: Kanluwen


 Arbitrator wrote:

After destroying the Old World, I'm more surprised people are so adamant it couldn't happen.

Probably because despite the Old World being destroyed, Slaanesh is still in there. It's a whole thread of narrative that Slaanesh was captured by Tyrion and Malerion and hasn't been able to actually exert its influence.

Towards the end of the Realmgate Wars, we had the Slaanesh followers starting to show up in the Realm of Shadow hunting for Slaanesh itself.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 14:45:56


Post by: shinros


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:

After destroying the Old World, I'm more surprised people are so adamant it couldn't happen.

Probably because despite the Old World being destroyed, Slaanesh is still in there. It's a whole thread of narrative that Slaanesh was captured by Tyrion and Malerion and hasn't been able to actually exert its influence.

Towards the end of the Realmgate Wars, we had the Slaanesh followers starting to show up in the Realm of Shadow hunting for Slaanesh itself.


Yup.

Plus in the grand alliance chaos tome in the slaanesh section they talk about the fact that champions still gain the mark and mutations for some reason or another. Also bretonnia and TK is how GW squat something what they are doing with slaanesh is the opposite almost anything related to chaos slaanesh is bought up. Plus they have been writing short stories for it and a slaanesh sorcerer was the main villain in shadows over hammerhal.


From my lore thread.

Lord Redomir is a powerful chaos sorcerer and a devout servant of the missing god slaanesh, the vile patron of debauchery and excess. Redomir himself believes that the Dark Prince lies dormant in some hidden corner of the mortal realms, bloated and vulnerable after gluttonously devouring too many souls during an ancient cataclysm of mind shattering proportions. (We all know what this event is right?)

Redomir and his ilk believe that the lord of pleasure can be tempted forth with a ritual of sufficient debauchery and artful sadism, and have committed countless outrages across the breadth of the realms. Thus far, none have caught the eye of blessed Slaanesh. Frustrated by thsese failures, Redomir travelled to countless repositories of forbidden knowledge, researching foul rites and blood magic, determined that he would see his master awaken the gaudy arrogance of sigmar's cities torn down.

It was amongst the spires of the cursed city of carpontia, where the accumulated knowledge of a thousand captive wizards was drained from their skulls and pooled in the font of eternity, that the sorcerer found his answer, seared into his mind by a choir of agonised screams. It was in the twin-tailed city of hammerhal that Redomir would finally fulfil his destiny.

I wonder who gave Redomir that vision? I mean can't be a captive chaos god right?

Personal notes: This is a small extract from one of the dungeons the question is what did slaanesh show Redomir in the vision? This happens if you die in the dungeon won't spoil which due to some people owning the game or playing it. Also the slaaneshi plan for the city involves a lot of magma and a lot of burning people. This is what he says when you die but stop the ritual from the previous dungeon.

"They put a stop to your ritual did they not?" Comes a second voice, wheezing and faint."

Redmor: *he laughs* "So they did. They plucked a single thread from a tapestry that stretches far beyond their pitiful mortal ken."

Hence it makes me believe slaanesh is still playing the great game.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/09 14:54:47


Post by: HorticulusDK


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Could you provide the quote please ? I check War Of Sigmar, Dakka, TGA, Warfo, FB, etc. daily and didn't see anything like that the last few months (bar what Chikout said about Vetock) I think anything Slaanesh related deserves it's own event / narrative arc, and should not steal the show of a whole Death-themed (start of the) year.

Also, the last two years pattern with Chaos is Winter release tied to 40k. I think we'll see Slaanesh, that's 100% sure, but at the end of 2018 (also, didn't Thebiggesthat, who teased the GUO a few weeks before the 40k Open days and the Daemon Codex leak, said we'll get a new Keeper Of Secret this Winter ?).



For me, this year, at least up to the global campaign who is 100% DEATH related, will see the following release :
- January : Maggotkin,
- February-March : Malign Portents introduction (books, scenery, Death battle tome WITHOUT model (because of the "so far" WarCom comment), the 4 harbingers),
- April-May : Aelves (even if they indeed are related to Slaanesh, it doesn't mean they could not be released before the Fate of Slaanesh story arc : which should see a new Slaanesh range fighting an already released Aleves range).
- Summer : Malign Portents global campaign, with a proper Death release. NB : the Death article in January WD tease heavily on the Great work of Nagash. It also mentions that the Alef gods have stolen aelf souls from Slaanesh to "ressurect their race".
- Second half of 2018 ; a 40k campaign release like Realmgate wars was for AOS (because the Codexes will be all out in the Summer, and GW said they will started doing campaigns books when all the codexes are out).
- Winter 2018-2019 : Slaanesh 40k and AOS.

(There will be of course more releases, like maybe new Stormcast, a boxed game like a new Warhammer Quest, probably Order sceneries for AOS, etc.)


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Post by: Baron Klatz


I'd be 100% okay with that schedule.


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Post by: shinros


Baron Klatz wrote:
I'd be 100% okay with that schedule.


Yup that year looks pretty good to me.


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Post by: ZebioLizard2


If nothing else, the plotline with Slaanesh missing has given more interest to Slaanesh from them.


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Post by: Knight


January WD tease heavily on the Great work of Nagash. It also mentions that the Alef gods have stolen aelf souls from Slaanesh to "ressurect their race".


How was this mentioned?


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Post by: unmercifulconker


So the new Rumour Engine image basically looks like an Octopus.....

Come on Cthuluuuuuuuuuuuuuu


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Post by: Geifer


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Geifer wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.

My guess would be another December-January Chaos release; but possibly with hints and hype from mid-year.


Seems a bit late to me, to be honest. Last year saw a new 40k edition, so this year should be Age of Sigmar focused again as far as the big summer release is concerned. GW seems to have stuck to alternating between AoS (and Fantasy before that) and 40k for the last years. Coupled with giving all Chaos factions a turn in getting a large update it makes sense to me to get some Slaanesh stuff out of the way in summer and fall just like in last year's 40k year we saw mortal Nurgle forces with cross-compatible daemons and Age of Sigmar mortals making an appearance at the tail end of this release.

We also can't rule out that GW's repeats what they did with Deathwatch Overkill and to a lesser degree the characters (well, snail rider guy really) from Blight War, giving us a taste of things that will only see a proper release half a year later. This has not beena consistent approach by any stretch, but GW proved they are willing to do this.

I think comparing Overkill to Blight War isn't the right tact. I'd say the better comparison would be Death Masque, Stormclaw, etc.
The bundle boxes where it came with half an army each and a "unique" character model to that box.
Overkill was a self-contained boardgame with stuff that could be used in 40k.
Blight War is just a trimmed down/"alternate" starter set.

Anyways, I think it important to remind people that it wasn't "Cthulu Elves" that was mentioned when we got the rumors. It was describing them as "Lovecraftian", and at that time there was a preview of a tentacle(which we later had ID'd as part of the Necromunda objective/scenery bits), and certain posters who kept harping about Cthulu, Cthulu, Cthulu.


Yes, I guess it's not the best comparison since as you say the most notable feature of the campaign sets is that they provide starter forces and a new character sculpt per side.

I figure it's relevant because in a 40k year with a big Death Guard release following on the heels of Death Guard in the starter set, a new Nurgle daemon not usable in 40k at the time of release but getting added half a year later when the proper daemon release happens feels like the kind of sneak peek I'm talking about. But that's of course just my take and as I said, it's hardly guaranteed that we'll get such a preview.

I believe Hastings used the term Lovecraftian and was the first to talk about them,as you say. I'm not surprised that it gets changed into Cthukhu elves, though. People like me who don't know or care enough about Lovecraft won't make that distinction. Well, I do because I prefer not to twist the facts, but I couldn't tell the difference if I wanted to.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
So the new Rumour Engine image basically looks like an Octopus.....

Come on Cthuluuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Since it may be relevant, here's the picture:



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Post by: EnTyme


 unmercifulconker wrote:
So the new Rumour Engine image basically looks like an Octopus.....

Come on Cthuluuuuuuuuuuuuuu


What octopus have you been looking at?


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 Knight wrote:
January WD tease heavily on the Great work of Nagash. It also mentions that the Alef gods have stolen aelf souls from Slaanesh to "ressurect their race".


How was this mentioned?


Like this.

Well, now that I think of it, maybe Soul Wars (the novel by JR) will be a way to ties both Stormcast and Aelves in the fight against Nagash this summer.

Bring it on !

[Thumb - The Soul Thieves.png]


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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


It really does actually. If you look at an octopus from a side profile, it's incredibly similar.

[Thumb - untitled.png]


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Post by: EnTyme


Yeah, I still don't see it. Octopi don't have fur, and that indented dark sport is most likely a nostril.


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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Not quite sure where you're seeing fur. At the least I would say it looks scaly. But leathery is where I would put it. And the ventricle looks like a breathing hole leading into the back of the head like the pic.


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Post by: Iron_Captain


The part on the right really looks like fur or hair of some kind. The part on the left looked like scales to me as well at first, but it might also be short fur. Still think it is scales though. With the spiny ridge and hole (ear, nose?), the whole things gives me a reptilian vibe.


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Post by: EnTyme


The wavy area to the left of the dark spot is consistent with how GW has been modelling fur or short feathers for the last few years. Scales are typically more symmetrical and organized when they're modeled.


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Post by: Pariah-Miniatures


 EnTyme wrote:
Yeah, I still don't see it. Octopi don't have fur, and that indented dark sport is most likely a nostril.

Not sure how you’re mistaking a textured surface that looks like that of a sea creature to be fur. Or what looks like a large dark eye with bright pupil.. then the wrinkling st the front could lead to the rest of a face or tentacles or a beak.

This is exciting


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Post by: Galas


It isn't fur nor scales. Its an octopus (Or something trying to emulate an octopus like a monster, a helmet, a banner, etc...), and as you can see in any kind of photo they have rough skin.


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Post by: EnTyme


Take a look at the Leonine head on the Chimera. The snout is really close to this. Just painted one a couple weeks ago, so I got used to looking really closely at GW's methods for portraying both fur and scales.


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Post by: ImAGeek


 EnTyme wrote:
The wavy area to the left of the dark spot is consistent with how GW has been modelling fur or short feathers for the last few years. Scales are typically more symmetrical and organized when they're modeled.


It’s not defined enough to be fur. It does look a lot like the texture of an octopus’s skin.


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 EnTyme wrote:
Take a look at the Leonine head on the Chimera. The snout is really close to this. Just painted one a couple weeks ago, so I got used to looking really closely at GW's methods for portraying both fur and scales.


It looks nothing like the fur on the chimera? That’s much more defined and pointy.


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Post by: EnTyme


People see what they want to see. From the the paint strokes on the preview image, it's pretty obvious that this is an extreme closeup on a smaller model. The fur wouldn't have the same depth as that on the Chimera. Seriously though, zoom in on the area where the fur ends on the Chimera's snout and tell me that doesn't look really similar. And no. It doesn't look like the texture of an octopus' skin. I think people just really want this to be a preview for a new Aelf model, and are bringing up the old rumor of Lovecraftian Aelves, which somehow translates to aquatic.


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Post by: ImAGeek


It’s not just the texture that looks like an octopus, it’s also the hole thing, and the general shape of it.


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Post by: EnTyme


That's kind of a leap, but I don't think this thread is for speculating on rumor engine teasers. That has its own thread. Let's get back on topic.


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Post by: streetsamurai


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Where do you see a slowdown ? It's all the codexes GW said they'll release till the summer.

The Bolter and Chainsword original poster said he didn't know much about February, and was probably mostly talking about 40k : that could explain the lack of MP and AOS things (even if I think we won't see more AOS models than the one I listed until April-May)

BTW the Shadepisre warbands for February are confirmed by Lady Atia too : https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2679



you mean the dwarves and kaven warbands that have been shown (skaven) or hevaily rumoured before?

Wasn't exactly hard to make this prediciton. I'll eat my hat if that guy is legit


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Post by: Knight


 HorticulusDK wrote:
 Knight wrote:
January WD tease heavily on the Great work of Nagash. It also mentions that the Alef gods have stolen aelf souls from Slaanesh to "ressurect their race".


How was this mentioned?


Like this.

Well, now that I think of it, maybe Soul Wars (the novel by JR) will be a way to ties both Stormcast and Aelves in the fight against Nagash this summer.

Bring it on !


Thanks for sharing.


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Post by: streetsamurai


 Arbitrator wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 shinros wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not available too me right now, but one of the devs was asked what was going on with Slaneesh at an open day and apparently there is meant to be a summer event dealing with it's fate. Which could possibly tie in with the schedule above. But the lack of Slaneeshi releases on the list makes me question it.


Right if there is an event dealing with slaanesh even if I am a undead fan in AOS, for slaanesh sake I am going chaos and everyone else should as well. How cool would it be if slaanesh ends up the strongest chaos god in AOS because of it?

Seems more like they know the sheer number of Order/Sigmarines, especially if there's an Elf release immediately prior, would skew the results into a massive victory for them.

Maybe that'll be their excuse to fully squat Slaanesh. "w-w-well s-ee! You did affect the narrative!"


Considering the gods in AoS and 40k are the same, this line of obsession is not going to happen unless they wipe Slaneesh out of 40k too. And that's not going to happen. So quit with the trolling.

After destroying the Old World, I'm more surprised people are so adamant it couldn't happen.


If they want to squat slaanesh (and I don't think they will), I'd wager on it being done the SOB way, by not updating the range and letting it sink into oblivion (with a reference here and there in the fluf), rather than the Squat way


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


I seriously hope they don't forget about some of the current loose ends in the plot. Tzeentch obviously has some plan going that that has been mentioned in several places, while Blightwar was never resolved.


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Post by: nels1031


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I seriously hope they don't forget about some of the current loose ends in the plot. Tzeentch obviously has some plan going that that has been mentioned in several places, while Blightwar was never resolved.


I hope so too, and their track record makes me think that they will. The Realmgate Wars story had the search for the Everqueen and Ghal Maraz as parts of the narrative, while the overall plot was that Sigmar was aiming his forces for the Allpoints.

Horticulous being mentioned in some of the opening Malign Portents fiction makes me believe that he'll have a run in with Neave at some point and conclude the Blight War thread one way or the other.

Refresh my memory on Tzeentch's plot?


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Well we don't really know what it is. We just know there is one. Tidbits are scattered throughout the Tzeentch book and also in the epilogue of the last realmgate wars, and the last entry of the Kharadron timeline.


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Post by: Yodhrin


Baron Klatz wrote:
...than the destruction of one meager world.


Nope.



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Post by: Baron Klatz


Meh, compared to the chaos gods who corrupt/conquer countless worlds in both universes it is a simple world.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
slightly confused :(

Spoiler:
So its a Stormcast attacking Verric (?) - because is a worshiper of Alarielle or somethng else?
Spoiler:
It seems likely that it is because the village is infected with some sort of Nurgle plague (or perhaps more). The white armor indicates Knights Excelsior, who are notorious hardasses when it comes to dealing with Chaos. They are somewhat like 40k Inquisitors, seeing the death of innocents as justified in beating back corruption. The City of Secrets novel does a good job of portraying them, they aren't very nice. Basically it seems that they are conducting a very tiny exterminatus on the village.

Spoiler:

I wonder if this will be played on further for a Summer Campaign or just a narrative of religious unrest. Their callous acts could spark a nasty unrest for a god already viewed negatively for abandoning his people in a desperate time.


Also I imagine Tzeentch will play heavily in a plot involving Slaanesh. He's the reason it's imprisoned in the first place.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 streetsamurai wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
Where do you see a slowdown ? It's all the codexes GW said they'll release till the summer.

The Bolter and Chainsword original poster said he didn't know much about February, and was probably mostly talking about 40k : that could explain the lack of MP and AOS things (even if I think we won't see more AOS models than the one I listed until April-May)

BTW the Shadepisre warbands for February are confirmed by Lady Atia too : https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2679



you mean the dwarves and kaven warbands that have been shown (skaven) or hevaily rumoured before?

Wasn't exactly hard to make this prediciton. I'll eat my hat if that guy is legit


No, the WHU warbands are from the 4chan poster. But was indeed leaked last week (on a strange PDF or smthg) and then confirmed by Lady Atia.

The other poster, from B&C, was right back in November about Codex Daemons and Adeptus Custodes.

So yeah, the 4chan poster may have taken the B&C and Atia rumors and mixed it together.

Or he could be legit, Anyway we'll just have to see if the next Codexes after AC and TS are indeed T'au and Necrons.


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Post by: zamerion


Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?


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Post by: Geifer


I mean to. Is Phil Kelly only doing background writing these days or is he still involved in game design? I get the feeling this will be focused on the background with not much else information coming out of it.


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Post by: Kanluwen


 HorticulusDK wrote:

No, the WHU warbands are from the 4chan poster. But was indeed leaked last week (on a strange PDF or smthg) and then confirmed by Lady Atia.

It was "leaked" on an order sheet for retailers/distributors.

But really, the WHU warbands come from back when Shadespire launched. One of the guys from GW at an event said the next warbands would be the Skaven and Fyreslayers and that they were "Q1 2018; probably February".


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Post by: Knight


zamerion wrote:
Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?


Anyone has the time of it?


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Post by: JSG


 Knight wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?


Anyone has the time of it?


Starts in about 15 mins.


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Post by: zamerion


There is no information?


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Post by: Vorian


Was just talking around the background. Was an interesting listen

The closest thing to news I guess would be that new AoS original armies are coming "soon, like, real soon"


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Post by: zamerion


Original of originative (old world) or original of imaginative


Octopus elves coming


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Post by: TheDraconicLord


zamerion wrote:

Octopus elves coming




I hope they DO exist and if they do, hopefully the wait was worth it.


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Post by: Vorian


It was a question about armies making the most of the AoS universe

But yes, it must be Aelves soon, surely?!


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Post by: Galas


I'll admit, I chuckled a little... but the farms!? I suppose this goes with the GW video explaining the AoS universe.

Spoiler:


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Post by: Knight


Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.


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Post by: Vorian


People seem to last well in near perpetual dark / light for months at a time on Earth - of you'd grown up with that as all you'd ever known it's not exactly a problem


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Post by: Nostromodamus


I’d not worry too much about real-world viability of herbivorous life in a fantasy realm composed of huge discs connected by magical portals and inhabited by literal Gods and Daemons.

“But I need this world grounded in scientific fact!”

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.


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Post by: Sarouan


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.


Yes, indeed. Skaven eat Warpstone, Chaos Warriors get their energy from battles themselves and dwarves drink beer. Easypeasy.

If Slaanesh returns, I wonder if we'll see some kind of twisted Morathi-like whatever thing it may be. Could be fun and iconic.

To me, I expect one of the aelves armies will be some kind of corsair-themed.


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Post by: EnTyme


I always just assumed Dwarves gnawed on raw mushrooms.


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Post by: Iron_Captain


 Nostromodamus wrote:
I’d not worry too much about real-world viability of herbivorous life in a fantasy realm composed of huge discs connected by magical portals and inhabited by literal Gods and Daemons.

“But I need this world grounded in scientific fact!”

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

Dwarves actually did. Chaos Warriors... not so much


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Post by: Crimson


 Iron_Captain wrote:

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

But not necessarily scientific realism, it just has to follow some logic. Perhaps in a fantasy world the growth of wheat is powered by sacrifices made to the goddess of harvest? (Probably not the case here, but just as an example.)


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Post by: Iron_Captain


 Crimson wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

But not necessarily scientific realism, it just has to follow some logic. Perhaps in a fantasy world the growth of wheat is powered by sacrifices made to the goddess of harvest? (Probably not the case here, but just as an example.)

Yeah. But it does need to follow some logic. If it is never explained or just handwaved with magic than that is bad worldbuilding.


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Post by: judgedoug


 HorticulusDK wrote:
(The boxed game could be AOS, Warhammer Underworlds or Warhammer Quest)


Don't forget GW and the Middle-earth team have both announced the relaunch of Strategy Battle Game under the Middle-earth branding, and have teased
"We return to The Lord of the Rings to explore The Fall of Osgiliath and The Battle of Pelennor Fields Coming Spring/Summer 2018"

This could be the new Middle-earth SBG Starter Set "The Fall of Osgiliath"

[Thumb - 21763643_10214022250578777_1117338281_n.jpg]


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Post by: Knight


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


I just hand-waved chaos warriors as sustained by the chaos gods with mutations to their metabolism to survive until they raided the Empire proper.

Dwarfs had mentions of eating bread mixed with gravel and able to go for a long time off just beer. Your hand would fly off with that much waving.

 Knight wrote:
Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.


The realms have their own suns and moons too. They're not completely dependent on the light and shadow realms but those seem more consistent as the realm astral bodies are composed of magic and act strangely. It's noted by one scholar in a short story that, although he respects the Ghur sun for it's independent behavior and wild nature of choosing where and when it wants to be, it does make time-keeping a considerable challenge.

Also yes, rebirth/reincarnation is a thing. It's noted there's inner parts of the death realm even Nagash can't reach and this seems to be a source for the reincarnations to happen(it's happened in the Warbeast novel with one notable individual). So dying in the setting does basically make you a citizen/conscript under Nagash's rule but you can win the death lottery and be reborn.

Edit: just realized you meant the light and shadow realm cycles Themselves, whoops.

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.


Reminds me of my favorite quote "fantasy needs to make sense, reality doesn't".

I imagine if the wheat of the realm of shadows doesn't adjust other vegatation inevitably must. At worst they can end up trading it from other realms (or the realm next door that's full of light).



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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Knight wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.
What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was. They were pretty clear in the video that there are vast sections of the realms that are normal/close enough to it that conventional cities and farms are built. That's already putting the realm of life (and to a lesser extent beasts) aside, where 'magic makes it grow' is less an assumption and more a basic premise of the lore.

Overall I find AoS to be more reasonable on the facet of food production.


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Post by: Galas


Chaos Warriors once are clad in their plate armour can't take it off. They don't need to drink, or eat, don't they feel tired. They just survive killing for their gods.

Or at least it was this way in Fantasy, I don't know if its still the same in AoS.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Indeed but I think people mean the more human marauders rather than the chaos knights who are openly mutated to the core.

The chaos knights are always noted as having no problems compared to the mortals who can starve or get eaten by their beastmen allies in a Kislev winter.


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Post by: Iron_Captain


Baron Klatz wrote:
Indeed but I think people mean the more human marauders rather than the chaos knights who are openly mutated to the core.

The chaos knights are always noted as having no problems compared to the mortals who can starve or get eaten by their beastmen allies in a Kislev winter.

The Human marauders are Norscans. How they survived has never been really unclear. Norsca is basically a grimdark version of Scandinavia with lots of monsters. People survive by fishing, hunting monsters and other animals for meat and farming what little crops will grow in the rocky soil and cold climate. Supplemented of course by frequent raids on more pleasant parts of the world. How Chaos Knights survive has always been just handwaved with magic.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Knight wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.
What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was. They were pretty clear in the video that there are vast sections of the realms that are normal/close enough to it that conventional cities and farms are built. That's already putting the realm of life (and to a lesser extent beasts) aside, where 'magic makes it grow' is less an assumption and more a basic premise of the lore.

Overall I find AoS to be more reasonable on the facet of food production.

I love how you jump to the conclusion with the only information about food production in AoS being 'there are farms'. There were farms in the Old World too.


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Post by: Crimson


 Iron_Captain wrote:

The Human marauders are Norscans. How they survived has never been really unclear. Norsca is basically a grimdark version of Scandinavia with lots of monsters. People survive by fishing, hunting monsters and other animals for meat and farming what little crops will grow in the rocky soil and cold climate. Supplemented of course by frequent raids on more pleasant parts of the world.

A little known fact about the Old World chaos marauders is that as pseudo Scandinavians the Norscans had a robust social security system which allowed them to survive even the harshest conditions.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Iron Captain, I didn't and don't want to go into detail because it's off topic. Obviously there's more to it on both ends.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Hmm, I guess I get wanting to keep on topic but I think pointing out the large fishing industry, for both cities and villages, in AoS(due to damage caused to the lands during the age of chaos)is suitable if "they have farms" is not satisfactory.
.

The Human marauders are Norscans. How they survived has never been really unclear. Norsca is basically a grimdark version of Scandinavia with lots of monsters. People survive by fishing, hunting monsters and other animals for meat and farming what little crops will grow in the rocky soil and cold climate. Supplemented of course by frequent raids on more pleasant parts of the world. How Chaos Knights survive has always been just handwaved with magic.


Oh, I mostly meant supply lines in my example but yours is a good point.

The Norscans also do some trading with the south and the tribes not influenced by chaos were noted in one story to be able to produce cheese.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Baron Klatz wrote:
Hmm, I guess I get wanting to keep on topic but I think pointing out the large fishing industry, for both cities and villages, in AoS(due to damage caused to the lands during the age of chaos)is suitable if "they have farms" is not satisfactory.
.

The Human marauders are Norscans. How they survived has never been really unclear. Norsca is basically a grimdark version of Scandinavia with lots of monsters. People survive by fishing, hunting monsters and other animals for meat and farming what little crops will grow in the rocky soil and cold climate. Supplemented of course by frequent raids on more pleasant parts of the world. How Chaos Knights survive has always been just handwaved with magic.


Oh, I mostly meant supply lines in my example but yours is a good point.

The Norscans also do some trading with the south and the tribes not influenced by chaos were noted in one story to be able to produce cheese.
That's a cheesy explanation.


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Post by: Iron_Captain


Yeah, this is getting off topic
But this discussion about Norscans does bring to something I would really like to see in AoS. The Norscans were great because they weren't really evil (or at least not all of them). It would be great to see a similar faction of more sympathetic, less fanatical Chaos worshippers in AoS. So far most of what we have seen of Chaos followers is utter lunatics. These Darkoath seem promising. I really hope GW will make them into a full faction. It'd also be really cool to see a 'neutral' Human faction who worship neither Sigmar nor Chaos but are caught in between. But now I am just wishlisting.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Iron_Captain wrote:
Yeah, this is getting off topic
But this discussion about Norscans does bring to something I would really like to see in AoS. The Norscans were great because they weren't really evil (or at least not all of them). It would be great to see a similar faction of more sympathetic, less fanatical Chaos worshippers in AoS. So far most of what we have seen of Chaos followers is utter lunatics. These Darkoath seem promising. I really hope GW will make them into a full faction. It'd also be really cool to see a 'neutral' Human faction who worship neither Sigmar nor Chaos but are caught in between. But now I am just wishlisting.
Those that are largely worshippers by circumstance rather than choice, barbarians rather than lunatics. I'd like to see a Norsca ish army as well.


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 Iron_Captain wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Indeed but I think people mean the more human marauders rather than the chaos knights who are openly mutated to the core.

The chaos knights are always noted as having no problems compared to the mortals who can starve or get eaten by their beastmen allies in a Kislev winter.

The Human marauders are Norscans. How they survived has never been really unclear. Norsca is basically a grimdark version of Scandinavia with lots of monsters. People survive by fishing, hunting monsters and other animals for meat and farming what little crops will grow in the rocky soil and cold climate. Supplemented of course by frequent raids on more pleasant parts of the world. How Chaos Knights survive has always been just handwaved with magic.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Knight wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.
What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was. They were pretty clear in the video that there are vast sections of the realms that are normal/close enough to it that conventional cities and farms are built. That's already putting the realm of life (and to a lesser extent beasts) aside, where 'magic makes it grow' is less an assumption and more a basic premise of the lore.

Overall I find AoS to be more reasonable on the facet of food production.

I love how you jump to the conclusion with the only information about food production in AoS being 'there are farms'. There were farms in the Old World too.


There's a few more cases and details than that. Shu'gohl's basic agricultural principles are fairly detailed. Excelsis has plantations/ranches of spider silk in the eastern marshes. Hammerhal uses the magma from its Aqshy part to keep control of the vegetation and generate volcanic soil, very good for crops.


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Post by: Yodhrin


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Knight wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.
What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was.


Demonstrably, factually untrue. Skaven use slave labour to farm rice and corrupted grain in swamps, consume lesser rats and prisoners(and on occasion each other), and raid other races. Chaos Warriors either live in the Wastes themselves, one of the few cases I think "magic did it" is a fair explanation, or else they're part of one of the Northern Tribes who would also resort to a mix of pillage and slave farming. Dwarfs have a few fields and herds of goat on the mountainsides, some "fields" within their holds using light reflectors, cultivate mushrooms and "blindfish", brew fortified ale that's as much a meal as it is booze, bake Stonebread, and trade with human realms where possible for what Dwarfs see as low-quality grain unfit for brewing.

AoS is getting better at this kind of thing, but fans of it need to stop trying to denigrate WHF to make AoS look better by comparison - especially with such obviously dissonant arguments; one moment WHF was stifling, over-detailed, a lead weight around the necks of authors and players seeking to be creative; the next AoS is actually more detailed and requires less handwaving and assumption?


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Post by: Galas


I'll say that I'm very glad that a small comic and a "but the farms!" joke has started all this great conversation about the virtues/canonicity and process of food production and agriculture in fictional worlds


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Haha, well it was a good comic.

the next AoS is actually more detailed and requires less handwaving and assumption? 

Are they? I think the discussion is that AoS has more hand-wave material rather than details due to the the magical nature and vastness of the setting.

Those that are largely worshippers by circumstance rather than choice, barbarians rather than lunatics. I'd like to see a Norsca ish army as well.


Wouldn't that be humans for Destruction then? Or is it just they have chaos worship as a after thought?

On that note, what about the Black Rift story and the ice-kingdoms of Gjoll? They seem to be heavy Norscan expies with their position in the arctic wastes of Ghur.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Yodhrin wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Knight wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.
What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was.


Demonstrably, factually untrue. Skaven use slave labour to farm rice and corrupted grain in swamps, consume lesser rats and prisoners(and on occasion each other), and raid other races. Chaos Warriors either live in the Wastes themselves, one of the few cases I think "magic did it" is a fair explanation, or else they're part of one of the Northern Tribes who would also resort to a mix of pillage and slave farming. Dwarfs have a few fields and herds of goat on the mountainsides, some "fields" within their holds using light reflectors, cultivate mushrooms and "blindfish", brew fortified ale that's as much a meal as it is booze, bake Stonebread, and trade with human realms where possible for what Dwarfs see as low-quality grain unfit for brewing.

AoS is getting better at this kind of thing, but fans of it need to stop trying to denigrate WHF to make AoS look better by comparison - especially with such obviously dissonant arguments; one moment WHF was stifling, over-detailed, a lead weight around the necks of authors and players seeking to be creative; the next AoS is actually more detailed and requires less handwaving and assumption?
What part of 'there is way more to justify my argument but this is off topic' did you misunderstand? Genuinely curious as to exactly where that was unclear.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Alright, let's try to bring this back on track.

What are the odds of Malign Portents leading to another Summer Campaign?

If that rumor leak is to be believed there's a lot of 40k codexes coming so a huge narrative event to keep AoS players happy and end MP for a lead up to aelves and Slaanesh sounds plausible.


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Post by: Chikout


Baron Klatz wrote:
Alright, let's try to bring this back on track.

What are the odds of Malign Portents leading to another Summer Campaign?

If that rumor leak is to be believed there's a lot of 40k codexes coming so a huge narrative event to keep AoS players happy and end MP for a lead up to aelves and Slaanesh sounds plausible.

It's a dead cert. The next campaign global campaign has already been confirmed and reiterated on yesterday's live stream.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Chikout wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Alright, let's try to bring this back on track.

What are the odds of Malign Portents leading to another Summer Campaign?

If that rumor leak is to be believed there's a lot of 40k codexes coming so a huge narrative event to keep AoS players happy and end MP for a lead up to aelves and Slaanesh sounds plausible.

It's a dead cert. The next campaign global campaign has already been confirmed and reiterated on yesterday's live stream.


Yeah : "Very soon, you’ll be able to blood your new army and help make Warhammer history in a new global campaign."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/04/malign-portents-the-time-is-nighgw-homepage-post-1/

I'm not sure this will be a summer global campaign (because of the "very soon") but then, global campaign can only really happen during summer holidays, right ?


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Oh wow, I totally missed that.

Thanks guys!


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Post by: HorticulusDK


So, given the fact that Month 1 (the SC!) is January, the four Harbingers (Month 2) are coming in February

[Thumb - MPflyer3.jpg]


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Post by: zamerion


slower than I expected ..

So the rest of January, will be custodes?


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Well : January is Maggotkin - Adeptus Custodes - Thousand Sons (see the last Regimental Standard about Tzaangors on WarCom).

February should be end of Custodes, Harbingers, hopefully the MP campaign books, maybe new scenery.

March ("Month 3") may be 40k-Necromunda-Bloodbowl only, or the campaign book.

April-May should be Aelves or a new AOS factions


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Post by: tneva82


Uh aren't tson and custodes supposed to be on february? January seems to be nurgle centric.


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Post by: Hanskrampf


Why is everyone thinking the MP campaign book release is close? My interpretation of the MP posts are that the next months are used to build armies and MP would transition in the global summer campaign.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


The only Nurgle model unrealized yet (bar the beasts etc. coming in two days) is the Lord of Blight, right ?

So we could see him + Custodes / Thousand Sons starting the 20th or 27th January, continuing Custodes release in February...,


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Well : January is Maggotkin - Adeptus Custodes - Thousand Sons (see the last Regimental Standard about Tzaangors on WarCom).

February should be end of Custodes, Harbingers, hopefully the MP campaign books, maybe new scenery.

March ("Month 3") may be 40k-Necromunda-Bloodbowl only, or the campaign book.

April-May should be Aelves or a new AOS factions


Malign Portents is getting released mid february, though.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


The second countdown indeed ends the 17th of February.

So that fits what we know I'm looking forward to the Harbingers but mostly the campaign book !


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 HorticulusDK wrote:
The second countdown indeed ends the 17th of February.

So that fits what we know I'm looking forward to the Harbingers but mostly the campaign book !


I mean, we could be wrong, but to me it seems that the harbingers kind of need the stuff of the prophecy points in MP and whatnot.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Iron_Captain wrote:
Yeah, this is getting off topic
But this discussion about Norscans does bring to something I would really like to see in AoS. The Norscans were great because they weren't really evil (or at least not all of them). It would be great to see a similar faction of more sympathetic, less fanatical Chaos worshippers in AoS. So far most of what we have seen of Chaos followers is utter lunatics. These Darkoath seem promising. I really hope GW will make them into a full faction. It'd also be really cool to see a 'neutral' Human faction who worship neither Sigmar nor Chaos but are caught in between. But now I am just wishlisting.


Trouble is to worship Chaos you do have to be at least a little mad and/or desperate

Some of the authors such as Josh Reynolds have given a bit more life to Chaos worshippers - eg: http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Fly - they are devoted and not sane as such but they are more than simply shouting "Blood for the Bood God".



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Post by: DarkBlack


 Knight wrote:
Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Mushrooms. It's the staple of any fantasy civilization under ground or in the dark.
Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.

Which jerk exactly? Depending on you point of view it could be Nagash, Sigmar, Archaon, a random stormcast purging a city, Slaanesh or Tzeentch.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 DarkBlack wrote:
 Knight wrote:
Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Mushrooms. It's the staple of any fantasy civilization under ground or in the dark.
Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.

Which jerk exactly? Depending on you point of view it could be Nagash, Sigmar, Archaon, a random stormcast purging a city, Slaanesh or Tzeentch.


There is some info that even Nagash can not hang onto souls indefinitely and does not know where they go when they "move on".


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Yeah, the knightly Order of the Fly were neat. I like the way Nurgle's followers have been represented throughout AoS, makes the battletome pretty tempting despite my aversion to all things chaos.

Also interesting to see the Vanguard with the engineer. Maybe Neave isn't done with Nurgle's farmer quite yet.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


According to the Maggotkin tome (you should really try it), she isn't

Can't wait for the novel about her this year !


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Haha, well it is easier to defeat a foe with more knowledge about them...

Thanks for the novel heads-up as well, missed out on that bit of info. (they're really churning out more content than I can keep track of)


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Post by: godswildcard


Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).


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Post by: godswildcard


 HorticulusDK wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).


Awesome! Thanks!


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Post by: Mr Morden


 godswildcard wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).


Awesome! Thanks!


Some other useful info here:

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortal_Realms

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Age_of_Myth

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Age_of_Chaos





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Post by: Knight


 Mr Morden wrote:

There is some info that even Nagash can not hang onto souls indefinitely and does not know where they go when they "move on".


Informative, thanks.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


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Post by: Kanluwen


 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.

It's worth mentioning however that, as of the end of the End Times, there was a child of Araloth and Lileath(the Elven goddess associated with the crescent moon and magic)...
A daughter at that.


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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


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Post by: Kanluwen


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

Soulblight has mention of "thralls"(yay!) in the General's Handbook and Neferata actually did refer to the Lahmians as "her children" at times.
Not saying it's a definitive thing but it's not a bad guess.


I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up

Maybe, but its "children" have been active for some time.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Neferata is famous for her spy network as well and finding other spies would be like her, also the slightly playful tone she adopts is very her, finishing with a threat.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?


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Post by: zamerion


Interesting that they said this:

Elias may have escaped Shyish with his sanity intact, but he's drawn the attention of a shadowy[u] figure. Who could it be?


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 Mr Morden wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?


Yeah, Vampires are totally called "Children of the night", and indeed Neferata is the mother of the Lahmian bloodline...

Also they will get a special set of Allegiance abilities in the Legions of Nagash BT. And Phil Kelly said on Twitch to look on the map of Shyish on the MP website for clues of new releases ... It happens that the only area with a whole faction described is Necros, where an army of Vampires have defeated the Bloodbounds...

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?


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Post by: Mr Morden


zamerion wrote:
Interesting that they said this:

Elias may have escaped Shyish with his sanity intact, but he's drawn the attention of a shadowy[u] figure. Who could it be?


Works for Morathi and Neferata - and of course they never met to my knowledge in Warhammer - Neferata had a Dark Elf contact before she took Silver Pinnacle but they did not interact directly - maybe that will change.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?


Yeah, Vampires are totally called "Children of the night", and indeed Neferata is the mother of the Lahmian bloodline...

Also they will get a special set of Allegiance abilities in the Legions of Nagash BT. And Phil Kelly said on Twitch to look on the map of Shyish on the MP website for clues of new releases ... It happens that the only area with a whole faction described is Necros, where an army of Vampires have defeated the Bloodbounds...

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?


I was thinking they sounded very Necrach like - not really like Neferata's children? White Dwarf did confirm that she is the first Vampire and so all are descended from her - although slightly different transformation - in AOS she drinks Nagash's blood.

Morathi could even be Slannesh or vice versa


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Post by: zamerion


and... khalida?


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Post by: Kanluwen


 Mr Morden wrote:

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?

Let me be a bit more clear:
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed."

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her.
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

It's important to remember, again, that the rumors about "cthulu aelves" weren't actually calling them out as "cthulu aelves". Hastings said Lovecraftian in his mentions. There's a broad scope of what that can actually mean.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 HorticulusDK wrote:

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?

Maybe.

Or maybe the "change" refers to something inside of her...dum dum dum*thunder crack*


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?

Let me be a bit more clear:
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed."

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her.
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

It's important to remember, again, that the rumors about "cthulu aelves" weren't actually calling them out as "cthulu aelves". Hastings said Lovecraftian in his mentions. There's a broad scope of what that can actually mean.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 HorticulusDK wrote:

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?

Maybe.

Or maybe the "change" refers to something inside of her...dum dum dum*thunder crack*


Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


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Post by: Kanluwen


 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.

I'm thinking less "fleshsuit for a Daemon of Slaanesh" and more "Rasputin by way of the Hellboy film" or "Gatekeeper and Keymaster from Ghostbusters".


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.

I'm thinking less "fleshsuit for a Daemon of Slaanesh" and more "Rasputin by way of the Hellboy film" or "Gatekeeper and Keymaster from Ghostbusters".


Ah ok -maybe maybe - so who do you think is the Keymaster? I guess not Malkeith as he was the one who found her?. She was also part of the Pantheon that ruled the mortal realms before the Age of Chaos so it was a deep and long game?

IIRC they were Sahdow Demons she was cavorting with - not that I have found any info on what Shadow Demons are?


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Post by: Knight


 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


Morathi calling someone her child, apart from Malekith, doesn't seem right. There could be something new that caused a transformation, but from what little is known I'd think she'd remained at "that", "pet", "plaything", "servants" or something similar.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Eh, I'm leaning towards Neferata on this. It could be Morathi but the death focus and "children of the night" thing fit better to my mind for her.

Let me be a bit more clear: 
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed." 

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her. 
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

Hahaha, that was a Lot to take away from just "she didn't survive".

Interesting theory though. Such an inside asset could be why Tzeentch allowed Slaanesh to act as a sacrificial pawn.


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Post by: ERJAK


I love the delivery the voice actress gave for her bit. She managed to SOUND like a spider stalking a fly. Kudos to her.


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Post by: ImAGeek


ERJAK wrote:
I love the delivery the voice actress gave for her bit. She managed to SOUND like a spider stalking a fly. Kudos to her.


Yeah, it was awesome.


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Post by: DarkBlack


 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


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Post by: nels1031


My dark horse candidate for the female voice :

The Lady of Cankerwell: Bearer of the Flyblown Chalice, a Seer to the order and who first converted the Duchies to the worship of Nurgle.


She's mentioned in passing a few times in novels that had Order of the Fly characters, and makes a cameo appearance in The Plague Garden novel. The voice seems too smooth and perfect for a Nurgle character though. I'll have to find the relevant part in The Plague Garden and reread how her voice is described.

Neferata is the safe bet though!


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Post by: His Master's Voice


 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.


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Post by: DarkBlack


 His Master's Voice wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.

If only... The thing that happened to Kugath might tough.

Might be a deamon princess, but named KoS will most likely be 40k compatible.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 DarkBlack wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.

If only... The thing that happened to Kugath might tough.

Might be a deamon princess, but named KoS will most likely be 40k compatible.


It's strange that Kairos and Skarband are still around, Ku'gath too in the 40k fluff (and heavily), but not in AOS. There, Epidemius is still around, and we got Horticulous and Rotigus also.

So really for N'kari everything is possible.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 nels1031 wrote:
My dark horse candidate for the female voice :

[quote.


She's mentioned in passing a few times in novels that had Order of the Fly characters, and makes a cameo appearance in The Plague Garden novel. The voice seems too smooth and perfect for a Nurgle character though. I'll have to find the relevant part in The Plague Garden and reread how her voice is described.

Neferata is the safe bet though!


Her voice is wet and warm -
Seven days from never, we dance always and do not fall. History dreams of us, my knight. We are its shadow and soil, all in one. We carry his blessings on our skin, wherever we go. We shimmer with the light of black stars, so that those who know the way might dance in our wake. The burning in your blood will set you free.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


The Lady of Cankerwall is also a compassionate character (in the Nurgle sense), like a grotesque version of a Brettonian damsel. I'm thinking Neferata or an Aelf from an upcoming army.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.

If only... The thing that happened to Kugath might tough.

Might be a deamon princess, but named KoS will most likely be 40k compatible.


It's strange that Kairos and Skarband are still around, Ku'gath too in the 40k fluff (and heavily), but not in AOS. There, Epidemius is still around, and we got Horticulous and Rotigus also.

So really for N'kari everything is possible.
I can see why Ku'Gath didn't get rolled into the GUO kit. He is carried around on a palanquin of Nurglings and has an alchemical lab with him. That would be a whole extra sprue at least. Epi, Horty, & Rotigus are in both 40k and AoS. Ku'Gath hasn't been seen in AoS fluff afaik, but he featured heavily in the End Times.


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Post by: Eumerin


zamerion wrote:
and... khalida?


The Tomb Kings still exist (iirc, at least one map has a reference to what is clearly a group of them). And if there's one Tomb King character that has interests away from the rest of the bunch, it's Khalida.

But I doubt that GW is going to even hint that she exists anytime soon.


It's a shame, both because the TK are pretty cool thematically, and it'd be fun to have a group of undead who openly tell Nagash to his face to go get stuffed. Of course, that last bit might be part of the reason why GW isn't going to update them for AoS.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Well that's a reason the Flesh Eater Court aren't under Nagash's command. They are living creatures and not under his control so they can oppose or ally with him. It's likely that's what the next Death faction will be able to do as well to give them diversity.

The map reference is the Obsidian Monarchy by the way, they destroyed a invading Ogor army with their chariot heavy force.

Her voice is wet and warm -

Seven days from never, we dance always and do not fall. History dreams of us, my knight. We are its shadow and soil, all in one. We carry his blessings on our skin, wherever we go. We shimmer with the light of black stars, so that those who know the way might dance in our wake. The burning in your blood will set you free.


Oh that's really cool.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Really enjoying the stories

Hoping Josh R writes more about the lady of cankerwell (and Neferata - he really made her come to life - so to speak) although the short "The Dance of the Skulls" was also good..



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Post by: zamerion


Has anyone seen the GW newsletter?




its in spanish, but they expressly speak of the kingdom of shadows speaking about the video of female voice..


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Yeah zammerion ! English text, thx to Yeled on TGA :

"From the shadows, a new foe emerges. An ancient nemesis is returning to the world of Warhammer, and the mystery of the Malign Portents deepens. Watch the epilogue and prepare for the reign of shadow..."

Shadows, reign of shadow = Ulgu
New foes = not Neferata
Ancient nemesis returning = Morathi



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Post by: Lord Kragan


I honestly think you're kind of trying to read a tad too deep.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Lord Kragan wrote:
I honestly think you're kind of trying to read a tad too deep.


Deep ? Like deep one ? CTHULU AELF CONFIRMED

...

No really, joke aside, we have many reason to speculate about Aelves :

- First, hints in the background since the AOS launch in 2015 about Shadow Aelves, Ulgu, Malerion, Fate of Slaanesh, etc.

- Then, this rumor from a quite reliable source (cf. Daemons and Custodes) about an April-May-June Aelf release. Also Phil Kelly saying we'll see "soon" a new proper AOS faction like KO.

- Finally, this video (talking about gods, snake-like hissing voice, the moon at the end being like the Mistweaver Saih staff's symbol, etc.), that text zammerion just quoted, a feminine, languorous voice and the promises of torment.



It all sounds veeery Shadow aelf-y to me.


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Post by: unmercifulconker


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Yeah zammerion ! English text, thx to Yeled on TGA :

"From the shadows, a new foe emerges. An ancient nemesis is returning to the world of Warhammer, and the mystery of the Malign Portents deepens. Watch the epilogue and prepare for the reign of shadow..."

Shadows, reign of shadow = Ulgu
New foes = not Neferata
Ancient nemesis returning = Morathi



Oh.My.Goodness.


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Post by: TheDraconicLord


 unmercifulconker wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
Yeah zammerion ! English text, thx to Yeled on TGA :

"From the shadows, a new foe emerges. An ancient nemesis is returning to the world of Warhammer, and the mystery of the Malign Portents deepens. Watch the epilogue and prepare for the reign of shadow..."

Shadows, reign of shadow = Ulgu
New foes = not Neferata
Ancient nemesis returning = Morathi



Oh.My.Goodness.




Is this it? Is it finally time? Gods, I hope it is.


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Post by: Bloodmaster


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
I honestly think you're kind of trying to read a tad too deep.


Deep ? Like deep one ? CTHULU AELF CONFIRMED

...


Deep ones - sounds fishy to me - SO, fish men CONFIRMED!!!


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Post by: Voss


Trying to come up with something clever with new foe but ancient enemy, but drawing a blank. It would help if we knew who's nemesis.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


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Post by: Iron_Captain


New foe? Ancient enemy?
AoS: The Revenge of Tom Kirby.
That, or it will be Slambo.


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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


A new foe, and ancient nemesis, GW on a nostalgia kick

could it be Malal/Malice is coming back (even if it is without Kaleb Daark)

probably not with the ownership hassles, but you never know


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Post by: Cataphract


I mean. It's all likely Nagash. This is what MP is about.


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Post by: Davor


What do they mean by ancient enemy? I don't know anything about the Old World or End Times, so is this someone from that time period or is it someone from the Age of Sigmar time period?


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Cataphract wrote:
I mean. It's all likely Nagash. This is what MP is about.


But we are talking about a video in which the creature seeing Elias has a female voice. That's not Nagash case (I hope).

Also Nagash is already there (as is Neferata) ; the "ancien nemesis / new foe" means it's someone from WFB/Age of Myth. coming back in AOS right now.

The video's description "From the shadows, a new foe emerges. An ancient nemesis is returning to the world of Warhammer, and the mystery of the Malign Portents deepens. Watch the epilogue and prepare for the reign of shadow..." should at least mentions 1-2 times Death if it was big Nagash


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Post by: Eumerin


Davor wrote:
What do they mean by ancient enemy? I don't know anything about the Old World or End Times, so is this someone from that time period or is it someone from the Age of Sigmar time period?


That's not clear yet, and probably won't be until the character is unveiled.

But Morathi is a pretty good guess given the information that we know for reasons that are mentioned above.


Other notable "missing" old enemies could include Slaanesh (probably not yet; note that Morathi has been aligned with Slaanesh for a very long time, so a Morathi reveal could be the lead-in to the reintroduction of Slaanesh), or the Tomb Kings (who were aligned against everyone; but GW no longer supports them, and the voice described wouldn't fit with them).


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Post by: tournesol


I'd love any Aelf reveal soon, but as much as I want it, let's hold our horses. With GW it's better to follow the Occam's razor. Most probably it's just Neferata, introducing her in all the MP events. This reminds me of all this late Custodes thing, people mindwanking themselves with completely crazy stuff just to be disappointed later.

Changing topic, just found these in Artstation, dunno if have been posted already with this quality:



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Post by: Davor


Eumerin wrote:
Spoiler:
Davor wrote:
What do they mean by ancient enemy? I don't know anything about the Old World or End Times, so is this someone from that time period or is it someone from the Age of Sigmar time period?


That's not clear yet, and probably won't be until the character is unveiled.

But Morathi is a pretty good guess given the information that we know for reasons that are mentioned above.


Other notable "missing" old enemies could include Slaanesh (probably not yet; note that Morathi has been aligned with Slaanesh for a very long time, so a Morathi reveal could be the lead-in to the reintroduction of Slaanesh), or the Tomb Kings (who were aligned against everyone; but GW no longer supports them, and the voice described wouldn't fit with them).


Thank you very much for this.


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Post by: Manfred von Drakken


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


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Post by: ERJAK


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


...I...don't...think so? I...guess it never occured to me that Seraphon was female and that might make a difference. It's not like Malerion is particularly 'humanesque' anymore either.

Just looked it up. Malerion is male, so it's still either neferata or Morathi


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


I was recently corrected on that very thing; Malekith didn't fuse with his dragon at all. It was just a rumor that didn't actually play out.


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Post by: highlord tamburlaine



Looking over the new Nurgle stuff coming for Sigmar, it's got me wondering if they're going to get point values for the Skirmish rules.

I know the new Battletome has Pitched Battle values, but I prefer smaller battles.


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Post by: Baron Klatz


Yeah, that was a 1d4chan thing. His mount Seraphon is never mentioned, he just finds himself changed, it's likely his new form is the result of going through the realm of chaos to reach the mortal realms as the other gods had and suffered for it as had they in different ways.

As for the shadow hint, I'm still skeptical. Just seems WAY too early for it if the Aelven releases are still so far away.


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female?


He didn't fuse with his dragon. And before anyone brings the image in question please read the flavor text where it's stated that he is, essentially, FORMLESS (in other words: he's shapeshifting and takes the form that pleases him the most).


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Lord Kragan wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female?


He didn't fuse with his dragon. And before anyone brings the image in question please read the flavor text where it's stated that he is, essentially, FORMLESS (in other words: he's shapeshifting and takes the form that pleases him the most).


I don't think he is shapshifting, it is said his anger gave him form. But being a god of shadow I guess he can do what he wants in this regard

People seeing this artwork just assumed :
- as the head and helmet looked like Malekith's,
- as the body looked like old Seraphon (the black dragon),
They simply had fused together.

As Lord Kragan said, that was absolutely NEVER said. And in every text about him GW refer to Malerion as "he".

[Thumb - Malerion.jpg]


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


Well pretty much any of the evil races you don't want to be taken alive? (also I thought that was the Dark Eldar tag line?)

Don't let Skaven take you alive or Orcs or Slaaneshi,

I thought originally it was definitely Neferata but now not so sure - maybe it is Morathi, maybe working with Nagash and co?


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female?


He didn't fuse with his dragon. And before anyone brings the image in question please read the flavor text where it's stated that he is, essentially, FORMLESS (in other words: he's shapeshifting and takes the form that pleases him the most).


I don't think he is shapshifting, it is said his anger gave him form. But being a god of shadow I guess he can do what he wants in this regard

People seeing this artwork just assumed :
- as the head and helmet looked like Malekith's,
- as the body looked like old Seraphon (the black dragon),
They simply had fused together.

As Lord Kragan said, that was absolutely NEVER said. And in every text about him GW refer to Malerion as "he".


You know, just now I notice the serpentine torso. I always thought he was like hunched or kind of squatting... so what if the snake like torso we have seen in the rumour engine is his?


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Post by: Cruxeh


 Mr Morden wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


Well pretty much any of the evil races you don't want to be taken alive? (also I thought that was the Dark Eldar tag line?)

Don't let Skaven take you alive or Orcs or Slaaneshi,

I thought originally it was definitely Neferata but now not so sure - maybe it is Morathi, maybe working with Nagash and co?


But that would lead to the question of why Nagash would lower himself to the level of the aelfs. Besides, we know he is working on a method to keep all the souls of those that die in Shyish in Shyish, regardless of them being mortals, Stormcast, or Chaos-worshippers.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Lord Kragan wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female?


He didn't fuse with his dragon. And before anyone brings the image in question please read the flavor text where it's stated that he is, essentially, FORMLESS (in other words: he's shapeshifting and takes the form that pleases him the most).


I don't think he is shapshifting, it is said his anger gave him form. But being a god of shadow I guess he can do what he wants in this regard

People seeing this artwork just assumed :
- as the head and helmet looked like Malekith's,
- as the body looked like old Seraphon (the black dragon),
They simply had fused together.

As Lord Kragan said, that was absolutely NEVER said. And in every text about him GW refer to Malerion as "he".


You know, just now I notice the serpentine torso. I always thought he was like hunched or kind of squatting... so what if the snake like torso we have seen in the rumour engine is his?


Yeah, people were saying that when we saw the Rumor engine. Other interpretation was with Fulgrim, or a Xeno (nah just kidding Xenos SQUATTED).

I've always wondered if this rumor about the End Times : Khaine release was true. Some people said that GW's initial plan was to release all the Khaine-related Dark elves with the End Times : Khaine book. And instead they all came sooner alongside the 8th ed. Armybook.

Anyway, if we count the Khaine elves as ET related, i.e. Age of Sigmar oriented (like Nagash or the Blightkings), then we have some good hints of the latest Elves / Aelves design (like the dancing Witch elves and the Bloodwrack Medusae - also serpentine !)


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 Cruxeh wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


Well pretty much any of the evil races you don't want to be taken alive? (also I thought that was the Dark Eldar tag line?)

Don't let Skaven take you alive or Orcs or Slaaneshi,

I thought originally it was definitely Neferata but now not so sure - maybe it is Morathi, maybe working with Nagash and co?


But that would lead to the question of why Nagash would lower himself to the level of the aelfs. Besides, we know he is working on a method to keep all the souls of those that die in Shyish in Shyish, regardless of them being mortals, Stormcast, or Chaos-worshippers.


Also, Nagash is angry with Tyrion and Malerion because they stole back many aeleven souls eaten by Slaanesh to rebuild their race, instead of giving them back to the god of the dead.

[Thumb - The Soul Thieves.png]


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Post by: ERJAK


 Cruxeh wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female? Isn't that Malerion?

Because a female from the realm of Shadows would scream Malekith/Malerion. After all, Malekith was the Incarnate of Shadow... Plus, Old World Dark Elves were the ones you pray didn't take you alive.


Well pretty much any of the evil races you don't want to be taken alive? (also I thought that was the Dark Eldar tag line?)

Don't let Skaven take you alive or Orcs or Slaaneshi,

I thought originally it was definitely Neferata but now not so sure - maybe it is Morathi, maybe working with Nagash and co?


But that would lead to the question of why Nagash would lower himself to the level of the aelfs. Besides, we know he is working on a method to keep all the souls of those that die in Shyish in Shyish, regardless of them being mortals, Stormcast, or Chaos-worshippers.


Why would she be working with Nagash? She doesn't seem nearly as interested (assuming it is Morathi) in preventing Elias from seeing what Nagash is working on as she is in Elias himself. She's likely to be playing her own side game ancillary to the rest of the malign portents.


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Post by: Mr Morden


To be fair Nagash hates everyone - he always has Gods, Mortals, monsters - he hates them.

In AOS he does work a bit better with others but basically he wants everything to die and serve him, eternally so its tricky to work with him.

I could see Nagash and Morathi working together and each looking to betray the other, after all he is used to that, both Mannfed and Neferata hate and fear him.

Why Morathi working with the God of the Dead, not sure but she does love her games - we know next to nothing about who or what she is in AOS, same with her son so its difficult to tell. As you say she could be just working her angle.

or it could be Neferata playing her normal games.....


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Post by: Chikout


There is a preview of the AOS open on the Warhammer community site, not much info but it does mention two battletomes in as many months. I guess that confirms that legions of Nagash is coming some time in February.


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Post by: Mr Morden


May also worth noting that Shadespire is part of the new campaign setting in Shyish and they had a way for capturing souls in glass.

Looking forward to the Nagash Battletome, although I'd really love for them to include more of the work the novel writers are doing to flesh out the AOS world.


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Post by: Earth127


But then we wouldn't buy the novels.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Earth127 wrote:
But then we wouldn't buy the novels.


I would I meant just referencing some of the characters, there are some really good ones now.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 Earth127 wrote:
But then we wouldn't buy the novels.


Well, at least for Nagash and Malign Portents, GW give Black Library shorty stories (some written by Aaron Dembski-Bowden IIRC) for free in WD and on the MP website every few days https://malignportents.com/stories/

And as Chikout said : Legions of Nagash Battletome coming probably just after Adpetus Custdoes and Thousand Sons : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/15/warhammer-age-sigmar-open-day-previews-grand-clash/

So start of February, either the 3rd or the 10th of February


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Post by: EnTyme


 Mr Morden wrote:
May also worth noting that Shadespire is part of the new campaign setting in Shyish and they had a way for capturing souls in glass.

Looking forward to the Nagash Battletome, although I'd really love for them to include more of the work the novel writers are doing to flesh out the AOS world.


If I read the fluff correctly in the WH:U box, Shadespire is actually caught halfway between Ulgu and Hysh now. That's why no one can die in the city.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


 EnTyme wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
May also worth noting that Shadespire is part of the new campaign setting in Shyish and they had a way for capturing souls in glass.

Looking forward to the Nagash Battletome, although I'd really love for them to include more of the work the novel writers are doing to flesh out the AOS world.


If I read the fluff correctly in the WH:U box, Shadespire is actually caught halfway between Ulgu and Hysh now. That's why no one can die in the city.


There is "two" Shadespire, the ruins of the city - they are in Shyish (as you can see on the Innerland Marshes map on the MP website) - that's where you play AOS Skirmish.

The "soul" of the city was cast in a limbo by Nagash to punish the people leaving there, the limbo being the Aetheric void between Hysh and Ulgu - that's where you play WHU : Shadespire.

The curse is stil active on the ruins in Shyish, so if you wander too deep or stay too long in the ruins, you may end up appearing in the limbo (and will never be able to escape again ) That's why there is Stormcast in the WHU game, even if the curse date back to the Age of Myth.


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Post by: Voss


 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.
She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Voss wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.
She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.


I would agree that she was so much the power behind the throne that few in the Warhammer world would have heard much about her, same as Neferata - and that's how they both liked it.

I would guess he is thinking about the fact that she is linked to the Realm of Shadow now but again agree she is not a new foe - then again nor are the undead. Neferata was keen on a alliance with Sigmar and the Stormcast against Chaos but her boss isn't going to let that fly - officially. Looking forward to finding out more!


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Post by: Kanluwen


Voss wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.

Morathi had a model. And actually she was a Big Deal not just to the High Elves. The Cult of Slaanesh list that we got for Storm of Chaos had her enrapturing whole tribes of Marauders into her thrall. It even had a kind of proto-Shadow Daemons in the form of the weird Dark Elves imbued with Daemonic powers lord/hero choice.

She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.

Shadowkin would be a "new foe" however and Slaanesh would be an "ancient nemesis", just sayin'.

We know virtually nothing about the Shadowkin. We don't know that they're strictly Dark Elves. When last we saw Malekith, he was in charge of the whole of Elfdom and had set up shop in Athel-Loren.

What we do know about the Shadowkin?
-Dwell in Ulgu.
-Fight alongside Fyreslayers, at the least. Fyreslayers book has a Lodge based in Ulgu that has adopted some Shadowkin iconography and tactics since they work together so often.
-Tenebrael Shards and Mistweaver Saihs are two of their Hero options.
-Led by Malerion and have fiefdoms/kingdoms in Ulgu. Each is ruled by one of the Darkling Lords. That's from Fyreslayers as well IIRC.
-Favor ambush tactics. Slaaneshi cultists that went to Ulgu looking for their god were getting mysteriously picked off in the mists of the realm.

That's all we know at this point.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malekith merging with his dragon make him female?


He didn't fuse with his dragon. And before anyone brings the image in question please read the flavor text where it's stated that he is, essentially, FORMLESS (in other words: he's shapeshifting and takes the form that pleases him the most).


I don't think he is shapshifting, it is said his anger gave him form. But being a god of shadow I guess he can do what he wants in this regard

People seeing this artwork just assumed :
- as the head and helmet looked like Malekith's,
- as the body looked like old Seraphon (the black dragon),
They simply had fused together.

As Lord Kragan said, that was absolutely NEVER said. And in every text about him GW refer to Malerion as "he".
We don't actually know if this art is Malerion. It is labelled 'what lurks in the shadows of ulgu?' which seems to imply it isn't him, and the text suggests that it's an image of Morathi.


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Post by: Kanluwen


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We don't actually know if this art is Malerion. It is labelled 'what lurks in the shadows of ulgu?' which seems to imply it isn't him, and the text suggests that it's an image of Morathi.

I'd be surprised if the text suggested that, considering they're separated by 33 pages.

The art is on pg 33 of the Age of Sigmar book, labeled with "What prowls in the shadows of the Ulgulands?".
The text associated with it actually talks about Malerion with no mention of Morathi. Just about how Chaos armies go into the mistbanks and come out as nothing but carrion and the followers of Slaanesh blame Malerion for their god's disappearance.

Morathi only gets a mention on pg 56 in the fluff snippet that talks about how his as his anger mounted, "his own rage gave him form" and "with his fury came greater corporeality and thus Malerion explored the thirteen domains of Ulgu".


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Post by: EnTyme


 HorticulusDK wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
May also worth noting that Shadespire is part of the new campaign setting in Shyish and they had a way for capturing souls in glass.

Looking forward to the Nagash Battletome, although I'd really love for them to include more of the work the novel writers are doing to flesh out the AOS world.


If I read the fluff correctly in the WH:U box, Shadespire is actually caught halfway between Ulgu and Hysh now. That's why no one can die in the city.


There is "two" Shadespire, the ruins of the city - they are in Shyish (as you can see on the Innerland Marshes map on the MP website) - that's where you play AOS Skirmish.

The "soul" of the city was cast in a limbo by Nagash to punish the people leaving there, the limbo being the Aetheric void between Hysh and Ulgu - that's where you play WHU : Shadespire.

The curse is stil active on the ruins in Shyish, so if you wander too deep or stay too long in the ruins, you may end up appearing in the limbo (and will never be able to escape again ) That's why there is Stormcast in the WHU game, even if the curse date back to the Age of Myth.


Ah. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.


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Post by: ERJAK


 Kanluwen wrote:
Voss wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.

Morathi had a model. And actually she was a Big Deal not just to the High Elves. The Cult of Slaanesh list that we got for Storm of Chaos had her enrapturing whole tribes of Marauders into her thrall. It even had a kind of proto-Shadow Daemons in the form of the weird Dark Elves imbued with Daemonic powers lord/hero choice.

She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.

Shadowkin would be a "new foe" however and Slaanesh would be an "ancient nemesis", just sayin'.

We know virtually nothing about the Shadowkin. We don't know that they're strictly Dark Elves. When last we saw Malekith, he was in charge of the whole of Elfdom and had set up shop in Athel-Loren.

What we do know about the Shadowkin?
-Dwell in Ulgu.
-Fight alongside Fyreslayers, at the least. Fyreslayers book has a Lodge based in Ulgu that has adopted some Shadowkin iconography and tactics since they work together so often.
-Tenebrael Shards and Mistweaver Saihs are two of their Hero options.
-Led by Malerion and have fiefdoms/kingdoms in Ulgu. Each is ruled by one of the Darkling Lords. That's from Fyreslayers as well IIRC.
-Favor ambush tactics. Slaaneshi cultists that went to Ulgu looking for their god were getting mysteriously picked off in the mists of the realm.

That's all we know at this point.


Honestly, all I'm hoping is that if they ARE doing Morathi and she is getting her line of Daughters of Khaine, only in Sigmar, that she isn't involved with Slaanesh anymore. Why would Morathi, who by what little we know about her and the other people who survived the old realms, should be a nearly god-tier power herself, keep kowtowing to Slaanesh when Slaanesh is the weakest he's ever been AND currently under lock and key. Morathi should be focusing on Usurpation, not worship.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Kanluwen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We don't actually know if this art is Malerion. It is labelled 'what lurks in the shadows of ulgu?' which seems to imply it isn't him, and the text suggests that it's an image of Morathi.

I'd be surprised if the text suggested that, considering they're separated by 33 pages.

The art is on pg 33 of the Age of Sigmar book, labeled with "What prowls in the shadows of the Ulgulands?".
The text associated with it actually talks about Malerion with no mention of Morathi. Just about how Chaos armies go into the mistbanks and come out as nothing but carrion and the followers of Slaanesh blame Malerion for their god's disappearance.

Morathi only gets a mention on pg 56 in the fluff snippet that talks about how his as his anger mounted, "his own rage gave him form" and "with his fury came greater corporeality and thus Malerion explored the thirteen domains of Ulgu".
I must have recalled that incorrectly then, thank you for the correction! (Not sarcasm)


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Post by: Kanluwen


ERJAK wrote:

Honestly, all I'm hoping is that if they ARE doing Morathi and she is getting her line of Daughters of Khaine

Hellebron controlled the Daughters of Khaine. She and Morathi did not get along.
Morathi held some of the secrets and mysteries that kept her so ageless and whatnot from Hellebron. It was a major point of contention between the Witches and the Sorceresses.

Why would Morathi, who by what little we know about her and the other people who survived the old realms, should be a nearly god-tier power herself, keep kowtowing to Slaanesh when Slaanesh is the weakest he's ever been AND currently under lock and key. Morathi should be focusing on Usurpation, not worship.

The problem here is that what we know of Morathi?
She should be dead. She played with the Vortex in Ulthuan, it collapsed along with the Waystones and she was devoured by Slaanesh itself.


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Post by: ERJAK


 Kanluwen wrote:
ERJAK wrote:

Honestly, all I'm hoping is that if they ARE doing Morathi and she is getting her line of Daughters of Khaine

Hellebron controlled the Daughters of Khaine. She and Morathi did not get along.
Morathi held some of the secrets and mysteries that kept her so ageless and whatnot from Hellebron. It was a major point of contention between the Witches and the Sorceresses.

Why would Morathi, who by what little we know about her and the other people who survived the old realms, should be a nearly god-tier power herself, keep kowtowing to Slaanesh when Slaanesh is the weakest he's ever been AND currently under lock and key. Morathi should be focusing on Usurpation, not worship.

The problem here is that what we know of Morathi?
She should be dead. She played with the Vortex in Ulthuan, it collapsed along with the Waystones and she was devoured by Slaanesh itself.


And then Malerion found her in the Mortal Realms and they had words and decided to work together. And I wasn't referring to actual daughters of khaine, I was referring to the rumor floating around that Morathi is coming out with her own all female cult of Aelves that repurpose the current Daughters of Khaine models into some new thing. Although, I had forgotten about the 'being devoured' thing so yeah, she should be SUPER peeved with Slaanesh going forward.


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Post by: Voss


 Kanluwen wrote:
Voss wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.

Morathi had a model. And actually she was a Big Deal not just to the High Elves. The Cult of Slaanesh list that we got for Storm of Chaos had her enrapturing whole tribes of Marauders into her thrall. It even had a kind of proto-Shadow Daemons in the form of the weird Dark Elves imbued with Daemonic powers lord/hero choice.

You're not selling Big Deal to someone other than High Elves with 'some random Marauders that didn't interact with anyone but dark elves' (as they'd be a different tribe than the bunch in Norsca that interacted the Old World)
Yeah, on the table top random people ended up fighting Morathi. In the background, if you weren't an elf of the high or dark types, the name Morathi is pretty irrelevant.


She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.

Shadowkin would be a "new foe" however and Slaanesh would be an "ancient nemesis", just sayin'.

We know virtually nothing about the Shadowkin. We don't know that they're strictly Dark Elves. When last we saw Malekith, he was in charge of the whole of Elfdom and had set up shop in Athel-Loren.

What we do know about the Shadowkin?
-Dwell in Ulgu.
-Fight alongside Fyreslayers, at the least. Fyreslayers book has a Lodge based in Ulgu that has adopted some Shadowkin iconography and tactics since they work together so often.
-Tenebrael Shards and Mistweaver Saihs are two of their Hero options.
-Led by Malerion and have fiefdoms/kingdoms in Ulgu. Each is ruled by one of the Darkling Lords. That's from Fyreslayers as well IIRC.
-Favor ambush tactics. Slaaneshi cultists that went to Ulgu looking for their god were getting mysteriously picked off in the mists of the realm.

That's all we know at this point.

Which is pretty much nothing but Malerion leads and not Morathi? That sounds more like a case for it not being Morathi or it doesn't involve 'Shadowkin' dark elves.


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Post by: Kanluwen


Voss wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Voss wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
@Voss

Why wouldn't Moratghi work ?
Not counting the female voice, the promises of torment and the shadow / moon / etc. references...

... She was indeed an old enemy of everyone back in WFB, and she hasn't reappear in AOS yet (I mean model wise or in the current story), so she's "new".


Not sure what you mean (particularly on the shadow/moon thing). Morathi has a model, and she was an old enemy of high elves, but almost no one else had a reason to care about her in any way whatsoever.

Morathi had a model. And actually she was a Big Deal not just to the High Elves. The Cult of Slaanesh list that we got for Storm of Chaos had her enrapturing whole tribes of Marauders into her thrall. It even had a kind of proto-Shadow Daemons in the form of the weird Dark Elves imbued with Daemonic powers lord/hero choice.

You're not selling Big Deal to someone other than High Elves with 'some random Marauders that didn't interact with anyone but dark elves' (as they'd be a different tribe than the bunch in Norsca that interacted the Old World)

Then you didn't pay attention. She turned the Hung (which were themselves "savage Chaos tribes known collectively as the Hung"). We're talking what is meant to be the Hun equivalents for Warhammer.

Yeah, on the table top random people ended up fighting Morathi. In the background, if you weren't an elf of the high or dark types, the name Morathi is pretty irrelevant.

Except when it isn't?

The whole point of her turning the Hung was so that she could solidify the northern borders while Malekith was fixated in Ulthuan. She revived the Cult of Slaanesh through the Convents of the Sorceresses(which were under her strict dominion).
The point of that was so that she could "deal with" the Hag Queens and the Cult of Khaine with her Dark Elf followers and launch an assault into Lustria. She justified the use of the Hung to Malekith by claiming that they were "enthralled" by her sorcery and sorceresses and that they could find things in the temple-cities to turn against the High Elves.
So sure, she might be a primarily Elf foe...but she was also a big deal to the Lizardmen once the Storm of Chaos rolled around.


She certainly fits ancient, but if new foe is just dark 'a'elves, that isn't particularly interesting.

Shadowkin would be a "new foe" however and Slaanesh would be an "ancient nemesis", just sayin'.

We know virtually nothing about the Shadowkin. We don't know that they're strictly Dark Elves. When last we saw Malekith, he was in charge of the whole of Elfdom and had set up shop in Athel-Loren.

What we do know about the Shadowkin?
-Dwell in Ulgu.
-Fight alongside Fyreslayers, at the least. Fyreslayers book has a Lodge based in Ulgu that has adopted some Shadowkin iconography and tactics since they work together so often.
-Tenebrael Shards and Mistweaver Saihs are two of their Hero options.
-Led by Malerion and have fiefdoms/kingdoms in Ulgu. Each is ruled by one of the Darkling Lords. That's from Fyreslayers as well IIRC.
-Favor ambush tactics. Slaaneshi cultists that went to Ulgu looking for their god were getting mysteriously picked off in the mists of the realm.

That's all we know at this point.

Which is pretty much nothing but Malerion leads and not Morathi? That sounds more like a case for it not being Morathi or it doesn't involve 'Shadowkin' dark elves.

And this is where it keeps getting messy because people are insisting that Morathi existing is going to be a big plot point for the Shadowkin(note: we don't get a timeline in the AoS book or even a continuation of how the Morathi/Malerion thing goes--just that those two joined the Order pantheon. For all we know, the two have gone back to warring with each other) while ignoring that we don't know much about them.

I mentioned the parts that were important that we do know but did leave out a few bits:
The Mistweaver Saih? Her wargear is extremely similar to that of the Shadow Warriors and the old High Elf mages. Notably the crescent moon motif, which was associated with Lileath and was a big part of the Naggarothi storylines that Gav Thorpe wrote back in the day.



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Post by: unmercifulconker


Damn, looking at that artwork of Malekith I always thought his lower half appeared to have legs. Completely missed it looks very serpentine instead.

I would bet good money that the serpent segment rumour engine is in fact Malekith and not Fulgrim, just a sneaky feeling.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 unmercifulconker wrote:
Damn, looking at that artwork of Malekith I always thought his lower half appeared to have legs. Completely missed it looks very serpentine instead.

I would bet good money that the serpent segment rumour engine is in fact Malekith and not Fulgrim, just a sneaky feeling.
You mean 'snakey' feeling.


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Post by: Cataphract


Slaanesh has some of his own Daemons who are trying to usurp his role as God of Excess, "Ur-Slaanesh", is the title they are called.Morathi could be one of those BUT so far we have no knowledge of this other than going off of guessing based on her usual behavior patterns.

It is also possible the "Shadowkin" are not Aelves but a tribe of humans. Considering the Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers were originally referenced as "Steamhead" and "Red Slayers" we should not be surprised if the Aelf army that coalesces does not share the same name as Shadowkin.



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Post by: Kanluwen


Cataphract wrote:
Slaanesh has some of his own Daemons who are trying to usurp his role as God of Excess, "Ur-Slaanesh", is the title they are called.Morathi could be one of those BUT so far we have no knowledge of this other than going off of guessing based on her usual behavior patterns.

It is also possible the "Shadowkin" are not Aelves but a tribe of humans. Considering the Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers were originally referenced as "Steamhead" and "Red Slayers" we should not be surprised if the Aelf army that coalesces does not share the same name as Shadowkin.

Nah, Shadowkin are Aelves. We literally have two of them right now.

The Mistweaver Saih and Tenebrael Shard both had material calling them out as Shadowkin.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Griiiimmmm. Great little story !


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Post by: Requizen


Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Hopefully - there are plenty of them in the fluff.

Although the woman in this story could actually be a vampire - very strong, pale and immune to plague...


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Post by: shinros


 Mr Morden wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Hopefully - there are plenty of them in the fluff.

Although the woman in this story could actually be a vampire - very strong, pale and immune to plague...



"Sigmar has forsaken this place, but Nagash sees your struggles."

Nice story and it's a lesson if they all worshipped nagash through the start they would not be dying in the beds in the first place.

To be more serious this clearly shows the power of nagash and the necromancy is the antithesis of nurgle. Also she is a mortal practising the art of nagash aka a deathmage/necromancer. Necromancy makes one's complexion pale or ashen or even a combination of the two. Plus you get to live longer but you end up looking like a prune as the years go by.


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Post by: Vorian


Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Wouldn't hold your breath based upon what Phil Kelly said on twitch. Basically said people were doing this as conversions but they wouldn't bee doing rules or model support for it


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Post by: Arbitrator


I realise it's close to impossible with Nagash being the gakker he is, but I've always liked settings where 'Death' isn't necessarily malevolent. That's why I always had a fondness for Morr. Seeing some mortal Death units who are actively working for the betterment for the people in their realms would go a long way to making the Grey vs Grey morality Warhammer is known for more prominent in the bland Good vs Blatantly Evil AoS has been thus far.

Of course, it's probably just a vampire who's going to turn 'em all into mindless undead but I can hold out hope.


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Post by: Vorian


Also on that twitch show he talked about how there were many underworlds in the realm of death - some of which work like that. But Nagash is working to bring them all under his control (and he's not so nice... God of Undeath rather than Death)


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Post by: Crimson


Vorian wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Wouldn't hold your breath based upon what Phil Kelly said on twitch. Basically said people were doing this as conversions but they wouldn't bee doing rules or model support for it

Lame. It would be a really nice thing to have. There wouldn't even need to be any new models, the Freeguild models would suffice.


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Arbitrator wrote:
I realise it's close to impossible with Nagash being the gakker he is, but I've always liked settings where 'Death' isn't necessarily malevolent. That's why I always had a fondness for Morr. Seeing some mortal Death units who are actively working for the betterment for the people in their realms would go a long way to making the Grey vs Grey morality Warhammer is known for more prominent in the bland Good vs Blatantly Evil AoS has been thus far.

Of course, it's probably just a vampire who's going to turn 'em all into mindless undead but I can hold out hope.


Even Nagash in AOS is not all bad http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nagash_in_the_Mortal_Realms

- He has a number of aspects for like Sigmar he contains multitudes - All are one in Nagash and Nagash is all.[2]

Black Priest: He who gives succour to those whose deaths are too painful to be borne. [2]
Nagash-Mor: Calm and silent, he weighs the hearts of dead souls against a feather.[2]
Nagash unbound: A titan of death who strides across a field of corpses and wherever his shadow falls the dead rise and walk, raverning for the flesh of the living.[2]
The Forlorn Child: He leads those who die before their allotted time to gentle slumber.[2]
The Undying King: He leads the nine hundred and ninety-nine legions to war and walks in every man’s shadow and wades in every man's blood. The one who draws up the ­bodies of the enemy and hurls them back at their allies and who will not rest until the realm of death is scoured clean of false life.


Vampires are pretty variable in nature, always have been.


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Post by: Cataphract




Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".


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Post by: Mr Morden


Cataphract wrote:


Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".


have not got that yet - is it good?


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Post by: Cataphract


 Mr Morden wrote:
Cataphract wrote:


Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".


have not got that yet - is it good?


I like it, if it is a bit straight forward. It is set during the opening days of the Age of Chaos and you see a lot of call backs and Lore stuff here and there.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I'm really enjoying the approach they've taken to the hype train here.

I'm always up for ADB short stories, and the whole thing feels really very slick.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Poor Nurgle... Seems he must suffer the most from all those Death tricks ...


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Post by: Mr Morden


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I'm really enjoying the approach they've taken to the hype train here.

I'm always up for ADB short stories, and the whole thing feels really very slick.


Agreed - really enjoyng it all.


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Post by: Mymearan


Yep, these short stories are great at setting the scene.


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Post by: Requizen


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Poor Nurgle... Seems he must suffer the most from all those Death tricks ...


I imagine each of the Chaos Gods have a pretty different view of Nagash and the undead in general. Nurgle in particular hates him because his work is an abberation in the life/death cycle. I would be really interested in, years down the road, seeing another campaign where the main focus is Death vs Chaos, but with a different Chaos God instead.


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Post by: Barzam


Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.


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Post by: Galas


 Barzam wrote:
Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.


The difference is that Undead squeletons and zombies are like in "stasis". They stop rotting, so they don't allow new life to grow. Nurgle zombies in the other hand decay at normal rates.


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Post by: Requizen


 Barzam wrote:
Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.


Nurgle Zombies are more like Infected Zombie types - The Last Of Us, 28 Days Later, that sort of thing. Still alive but blessed with Nurgle's Gift and turned mindless to serve him.

Nagash Zombies are reanimated corpses - Night of the Living Dead, Walking Dead, etc. Nothing lives in the corpse, no pumping blood or working neurons, it's just animated by magic.

Know your Zombies! It could save your life some day!


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Nurgle only uses zombies in 40k, even then they aren't like conventional necromantic zombies.


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Post by: Kanluwen


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Nurgle only uses zombies in 40k, even then they aren't like conventional necromantic zombies.

We had Nurgle zombies for WHFB, they just never really made it to the tabletop.

And there? The Nurgle zombies eventually 'transformed' into Plaguebearers.


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Post by: Adam Spielmann


Nurgle Zombies are the more "modern" kind of zombies: spreading through contagion. Also, from what I gather, they are a bit like the ones in the last of us, as in they are more or less colonies of parasites/magical warp-bacterias that keep the body moving after decaying.

Nagash's undeads are more the classic "risen dead" stereotype: guy gets killed, gets raised as a slave to the will of the necromancer who did that.



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Post by: Binabik15


My swamp themed Nurglers have a twenty strong unit of drowned corpses I wanted to use as zombies, but now with artefacts and stuff, I dunno. Nurgle IMO should have zombies, just different ones from purely necromantic ones. Teeming with worms and maggoths and fungi, not sterile magic. Like the Horned Rat encroaching Nurgle's plague business - similiar things, but for different goals.


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Post by: FitzChevalric


I expect a new Warhammer Quest in March or April.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


They decided a long time ago to leave the undead to undead and not give that sort of thing to Nurgle. What Nurgle actually needs is pestigors, and/or just giving beastmen their fething marks back!


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Post by: Kanluwen


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They decided a long time ago to leave the undead to undead and not give that sort of thing to Nurgle. What Nurgle actually needs is pestigors, and/or just giving beastmen their fething marks back!

Maggotkin book does talk about marked Beastherds so wouldn't be surprised to see that.


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Post by: zamerion


What if in summer we see a new start box nurgle vs death? After all malign portents.

(Its just assumptions and not a rumor XD)


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Post by: Carlovonsexron


Only when pigs fly, AND Astartes aren't in a 40k starter!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They decided a long time ago to leave the undead to undead and not give that sort of thing to Nurgle. What Nurgle actually needs is pestigors, and/or just giving beastmen their fething marks back!


I would LOVE to see all the chaos gods grt a ubique type of gor.

Snakemen slaangors being what I would really love to see to help make all the coolest hyborian dreams come true.


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Post by: Lord Kragan


zamerion wrote:
What if in summer we see a new start box nurgle vs death? After all malign portents.

(Its just assumptions and not a rumor XD)


You...you know we are getting nurgle focused stories only because this is its month, don't you? There's nothing more to read.


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Post by: HorticulusDK


Yeah if by "his month" you mean the month Nurgle gets trolled 24/7 by Nagash... After being trolled by Sigmar and Alarielle last year... Poor Nurgle.


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 HorticulusDK wrote:
Yeah if by "his month" you mean the month Nurgle gets trolled 24/7 by Nagash... After being trolled by Sigmar and Alarielle last year... Poor Nurgle.


GW is just subtly saying he should lose weight and eat less galaxies.


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Post by: Galas


Nurgle is the nice fat guy that always has food and doesn't has a problem sharing it with everybody but then is bullied by all the cool kids: Sigmar, the rugby team captain, Alarielle the Cheerleader captain and now Nagash, the president of the debate club.


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Post by: Lord Kragan


 Galas wrote:
Nagash, the president of the debate club.


I...I do not what to think about this.

"Actually, Nagash, your argument is inc-"

"DIE! DIE! DIE!"

*Everyone gets killed and re-animated, the willingless corpses automatically agree with him, winning the debate*



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Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Galas wrote:
Nurgle is the nice fat guy that always has food and doesn't has a problem sharing it with everybody but then is bullied by all the cool kids: Sigmar, the rugby team captain, Alarielle the Cheerleader captain and now Nagash, the president of the debate club.


To be fair to Alariell though, Nurgle was being "like super creepy" towards her.


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Post by: Manfred von Drakken


GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Nurgle is the nice fat guy that always has food and doesn't has a problem sharing it with everybody but then is bullied by all the cool kids: Sigmar, the rugby team captain, Alarielle the Cheerleader captain and now Nagash, the president of the debate club.


To be fair to Alariell though, Nurgle was being "like super creepy" towards her.


Meanwhile, Tzeentch is in the background going 'Revenge of the Nerds' on everyone, like setting up spy-cams everywhere.


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Post by: Iron_Captain


Warhammer: High School


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Post by: Eumerin


Khorne, of course, is the bully.

Slaanesh is out sick, probably recovering from yet another massive binge of sex and drugs.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Eumerin wrote:
Khorne, of course, is the bully.

Slaanesh is out sick, probably recovering from yet another massive binge of sex and drugs.
Just the tide pod challenge.


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Post by: Voss


Carlovonsexron wrote:
Only when pigs fly, AND Astartes aren't in a 40k starter!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They decided a long time ago to leave the undead to undead and not give that sort of thing to Nurgle. What Nurgle actually needs is pestigors, and/or just giving beastmen their fething marks back!


I would LOVE to see all the chaos gods grt a ubique type of gor.

Snakemen slaangors being what I would really love to see to help make all the coolest hyborian dreams come true.

But slaangors are cows...


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Post by: Carlovonsexron


I know. For me it would be a nice place for a change from established old lore.


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Post by: Irbis


You know, I am kinda sick of ADB's "lul khey-osss ALWAYS wins even if you beat it in battle!!!1!1!!" mania. While such approach might be seemingly more 'realistic' at a glance it would make fighting Nurgle impossible and there would be no Imperium of Man/Sigmar's realm any more pretty quickly as everything would be tainted in much less time than both of these lasted. What happened to 'Nurgle's diseases lose potency and can be cured once his forces were routed/banished'? Too noblebright for you, Aaron? I don't mind grimdark, mind you, but in ADB's take it tends to turn into grimderp that tries to paint Imperium/Sigmar blacker than the actual villains of the setting, and makes no sense once you think about it for even a second...


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Post by: Kilkrazy


Please try to stick to actual news and rumours. If you want to extensively discuss such, it's best to do it in another thread, otherwise the news thread becomes difficult to navigate.

Thanks...


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Post by: Iron_Captain


Looks very Greek.
Medusa Aelves?


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Post by: SKR.HH


Will this be an extension to Daughters of Kaine or something completely new? I hope the former...


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Post by: terry


based on the video I would say its daughters of khaine.
The video also showed slaanesh daemons, so that brings me hope for a slaanesh release later this year


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Post by: Ghaz


Well, we have a pretty good idea of what they'll be showing off at the LVO this weekend...


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Post by: Chikout


Morathi is back and she sure sounds pissed. Seems like those rumours about her getting two models and being the snake from the rumour image may be true. (Twisted into the form of her tormentor)


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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


this is the new Warhammer tv link (facebook so dakka won't link it)

https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/516432058751777/


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Post by: BroodSpawn


The only question I have - is it the same voice as the one from where that monk is 'caught peeping'?

Because I kind of hope not but I'd be okay if it was.


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Post by: Vorian


Yup, giving a great performance too.

Shadowy, Blood Aelves trying to get Morathi Godhood. Sounds like these are going to have been worth the wait.


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Post by: Ghaz


If you don't want to watch the video on Facebook...




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Post by: TheDraconicLord


My wallet weeps, my heart rejoices.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/23 16:57:51


Post by: shinros


Can't wait to see what Morathi is planning.


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Post by: ncshooter426


Wonder if the army will continue any of those greek themes, or if it was just for the teaser. I'd pay good coin for some mythos inspired armies


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Post by: Cataphract


The question now is what will be the nature of this release? Just a new Battletome for Shadowkin or adding new models and what not?

From the motif we see witch Elves fighting Slaanesh, and what look like Harpies or Elves gaining wings followed by Medusae worshipping at the altar of Khaine.

My prediction is this update will be more like the Sylvaneth one than say Stormcast or Arcanites. It will take the existing models for the Daughters of Khaine then add in several new model sets to flesh out the faction.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Ah so I was wrong about Neferata!

but Ohh this looks wonderful - I love Medusae and more of them including a goddess version is awesome!

Looking forward to seeing what they have in store.


Age of Sigmar News & Rumors. p.299 Bonereapers. p.309 Ogor Mawtribes.  @ 2018/01/23 17:08:12


Post by: ImAGeek


The voice acting is pretty great in the vid.


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Post by: streetsamurai


Not a hint of a new model. I feear this is only a codex release with no new models (but im a pessimistic)


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Post by: Mymearan


 streetsamurai wrote:
Not a hint of a new model. I feear this is only a codex release with no new models (but im a pessimistic)


Are you crazy? Look at all the snake women in the video, basically the definition of model hints! And combined with the dialogue talking about how she took aspects of Slaanesh but slithered out of his mouth... We're getting a full release of beautiful slithering ladies led by Medusa Morathi, bet on it! *giddy*


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Post by: streetsamurai


Medusa already exist.

But yeah, thinking about it, at the very least, we should have a new morathi


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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 streetsamurai wrote:
Not a hint of a new model. I feear this is only a codex release with no new models (but im a pessimistic)


I have to question on how they would release a book for the Witch Aelves faction when the entire faction at the moment is made up of just the Witch Elves and Cauldron of Blood.


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Post by: Hulksmash


Yeah, this feels like an Ironjawz release. Take the single unit that exists (for them black orcs and for these a little more to work with) and flush out a range that fits a book. I think this is awesome.


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Post by: Imateria


I've been waiting for an Aelves release of some kind since Sigmar dropped nearly 3 years ago, will be interesting to see what comes out.


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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Hm, side thought. Could this be Aos's first all woman faction?


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Post by: Vorian


Would be a pretty dull preview at LVO if they had no model releases (!)


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Post by: Galas


Yes please Greek based Shadow Aelves... just Greek-anything is great. I always liked more the greek Slaanesh aesthetic than the BDSM one (The old chaos lord in daemonic mount for example)


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Post by: Kanluwen


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, side thought. Could this be Aos's first all woman faction?

No, because the Daughters of Khaine faction already existed.


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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Point. Let me rephrase, first full book faction.


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Post by: Kanluwen


Something that has me a bit wary at this juncture of this being "Shadowkin" is that there's no sign of Malerion.

I think whoever called this as "Daughters of Khaine" might have the right of it.


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Post by: Vorian


As she is "the one true voice of a dead God"... that's Khaine right?

So this is pretty much growing out of the Daughters of Khaine faction. I haven't followed their AoS background, are DoK in the Shadow Realm at the moment?


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Post by: Lord Kragan


Vorian wrote:
As she is "the one true voice of a dead God"... that's Khaine right?

So this is pretty much growing out of the Daughters of Khaine faction. I haven't followed their AoS background, are DoK in the Shadow Realm at the moment?


They are a bit spread out, like most factions. But if memory serves right they did originally hail from Ulgu.


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Post by: Mymearan


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, side thought. Could this be Aos's first all woman faction?

No, because the Daughters of Khaine faction already existed.


Actually they include the Doomfire Warlocks, and so wasn't and won't be all-female.


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Post by: Kanluwen


Lord Kragan wrote:
Vorian wrote:
As she is "the one true voice of a dead God"... that's Khaine right?

So this is pretty much growing out of the Daughters of Khaine faction. I haven't followed their AoS background, are DoK in the Shadow Realm at the moment?


They are a bit spread out, like most factions. But if memory serves right they did originally hail from Ulgu.

Daughters of Khaine didn't "hail" from anywhere. They've been part of the Mortal Realms since the start and spread throughout most places.

A large number of them have set up shop in the Realm of Shadow because their "cult" wasn't really considered a-okay in a lot of places what with the whole sacrificing people thing.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Mymearan wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, side thought. Could this be Aos's first all woman faction?

No, because the Daughters of Khaine faction already existed.


Actually they include the Doomfire Warlocks, and so wasn't and won't be all-female.

That's a good point!

Still not sure why they put Doomfires in there rather than the Darkling Covens.


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Post by: Vorian


 Kanluwen wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
Vorian wrote:
As she is "the one true voice of a dead God"... that's Khaine right?

So this is pretty much growing out of the Daughters of Khaine faction. I haven't followed their AoS background, are DoK in the Shadow Realm at the moment?


They are a bit spread out, like most factions. But if memory serves right they did originally hail from Ulgu.

Daughters of Khaine didn't "hail" from anywhere. They've been part of the Mortal Realms since the start and spread throughout most places.

A large number of them have set up shop in the Realm of Shadow because their "cult" wasn't really considered a-okay in a lot of places what with the whole sacrificing people thing.


Wonder if they'll just be retconned out of existence for this new faction then.


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Post by: Crazyterran


Two pages and no crying about it being another Order faction?

Well done Dakka!

But in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome release, can't wait to see more!


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Post by: EnTyme


SKR.HH wrote:Will this be an extension to Daughters of Kaine or something completely new? I hope the former...


I'm thinking it'll be more like Sylvaneth and Ironjaws where they took a few legacy models (Dryads and Treemen for Sylvaneth and Black Orks for Ironjaws) and expanded them into full factions.

ncshooter426 wrote:Wonder if the army will continue any of those greek themes, or if it was just for the teaser. I'd pay good coin for some mythos inspired armies


It would be poor form to advertise a Greek theme and then not deliver on it. Personally, this is great for me! I'm slowly trying to build a mortal army for each Chaos god, and I was planning to do heretical Dark Aelves for the Slaanesh cult. This looks like exactly what I was imagining! Even if it'll actually be an Order faction, my head cannon will be that they're Slaanesh worshippers.


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Post by: Mymearan


Transcription:

They call me Shadow Queen. The one true voice of a dead god. A demi-goddess in exile, twisted in the form of her tormentor. I, who was once devoured, yet slithered from the throat of the dark prince. I, who helped bring civilization to the Mortal Realms and stood first against the corruption of Chaos. I, who feed upon offerings of blood and shadow, drawing ever nearer to my rightful place in the pantheon. For too long have I been shunned! NO longer will I be denied!


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Post by: Geifer


 Crazyterran wrote:
Two pages and no crying about it being another Order faction?

Well done Dakka!

But in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome release, can't wait to see more!


Dude, I'm coming. Don't rush me, a quality rant takes time.

Mumble, mumble, Death, dammit, mumble mumble mumble...

Yeah, that was unsatisfying. Thanks.

On a more serious note, those Greek drawings where everyone sees Witch Elves. Am I the only one seeing something more akin to Raging Heroes' Not-Daemonettes, you know with mantis claws and all?


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Post by: Knight


Did anyone else found the art choice particularly interesting ? Hope we see light elves next, as opposed to another variation of dark elves.


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Post by: Mymearan


 Geifer wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Two pages and no crying about it being another Order faction?

Well done Dakka!

But in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome release, can't wait to see more!


Dude, I'm coming. Don't rush me, a quality rant takes time.

Mumble, mumble, Death, dammit, mumble mumble mumble...

Yeah, that was unsatisfying. Thanks.

On a more serious note, those Greek drawings where everyone sees Witch Elves. Am I the only one seeing something more akin to Raging Heroes' Not-Daemonettes, you know with mantis claws and all?


Those ARE Daemonettes, on foot and riding Fiends. They are fighting Witch Aelves, Harpies and Medusa.


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Post by: Vorian


 Geifer wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Two pages and no crying about it being another Order faction?

Well done Dakka!

But in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome release, can't wait to see more!


Dude, I'm coming. Don't rush me, a quality rant takes time.

Mumble, mumble, Death, dammit, mumble mumble mumble...

Yeah, that was unsatisfying. Thanks.

On a more serious note, those Greek drawings where everyone sees Witch Elves. Am I the only one seeing something more akin to Raging Heroes' Not-Daemonettes, you know with mantis claws and all?


Aren't those Daemonettes that the Witch Elves are then fighting?


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Post by: streetsamurai


Yeah, these are deamonettes.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


You know that snake like body we glimpsed in a rumour engine? And that scroll? And the dragon holding arm? Bet those are glimpses of Morathi’s model.