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Post by: Kanluwen
Armor is too ornate for the Enforcers.
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Post by: Theophony
bionic leg for a Adeptus Soriatus chick. Looks like it has tiny Fluer-de-lis at the top and bottom of the shin.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Makes me think Female Ad-mech, like that leg we got teased back when they showed off the Palantine, Lelith, the ork, etc. It doesn't match though.
Are those fleur de lis? Doesn't match anything from SoB, but could be related
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Post by: Domandi
Looks like Sororitas to me.
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Post by: zamerion
Sorry I meant arbites, could be a new modernized style more decorated to differentiate from enforcers.
If not, it's some kind of new unit, because that armor with the fleur-de-lis doesn't fit me with anything.
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Post by: GaroRobe
If it is Sisters, it's fancier that the leg the Canoness' got.
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Post by: Dudeface
It reminds me of either scions or maybe the knight pilot guy? I thought sisters at first but the greaves are too different as is the shape of the shoe. I'm not convinced they're fleur-de-lis either at this point.
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Post by: warl0rdb0b
It looks more like the ornamentation found on Knight armour plates and AdMech vehicle plates to me, could be a female Inquisitor in plastic? I mean, we certainly don't already have those....
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Post by: Voss
Chaos sister. The spike indent on the rim is pretty characteristic of chaos marine armor.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Theophony wrote:bionic leg for a Adeptus Soriatus chick. Looks like it has tiny Fluer- de-lis at the top and bottom of the shin.
Gotta be careful going off that symbol though...when the picture isn't clear enough, the fleur de lys can be mistaken for the AdMech and Tempestus arrow bit!
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I'm leaning towards AdMech or Tempestus personally--I can't find much for Sororitas that repeats a pattern like this does.
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Post by: ImAGeek
Yeah, it looks more like the arrow thing on AdMech or Knights than anything else. The whole leg looks robotic too (looks like a mechanical ankle). No idea what it is though.
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Post by: Dudeface
 Kanluwen wrote: Theophony wrote:bionic leg for a Adeptus Soriatus chick. Looks like it has tiny Fluer- de-lis at the top and bottom of the shin.
Gotta be careful going off that symbol though...when the picture isn't clear enough, the fleur de lys can be mistaken for the AdMech and Tempestus arrow bit!
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I'm leaning towards AdMech or Tempestus personally--I can't find much for Sororitas that repeats a pattern like this does.
I agree my only doubt is that Admech really have gotten enough for now (not that stops GW).
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Post by: Kanluwen
The interesting concept, to me, is that this could be our first Secutarii unit in the codex. It was extremely strange that we got Skorpius and Archaeopters allowing for carrying a Forge World unit(Hoplites and Peltasts).
It's also possible that the Skitarii 'HQ' we've had teased earlier is a 'lieutenant' styled Alpha Primus while this could be a Captain/Chapter Master styled Master of Skitarii or something.
Wild longshot though is this could be some 'light' power armored Scions.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Well, it’s definitely a leg. Yep.
Wonder if these 24 treats will be different bits of relatively few models?
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Post by: GaroRobe
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well, it’s definitely a leg. Yep.
Wonder if these 24 treats will be different bits of relatively few models?
I've got mixed feelings on that. I want a ton of models previewed, but if it is only a few models, then they'll reveal everything by the end. Hopefully its enough models that they're not forced to use bland filler pics.
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Post by: bullyboy
Maybe Imperial knights are going to get some household guard units? You know, give them ability to play mono and still take/hold objectives. Or it could just b a new knight and she is the pilot.
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Post by: JonWebb
I’d love that to be the leg of the proto Slaanesh Knight for Titanicus, but it’s not quite bulky enough to sell me the scale...
One day we’ll get them... one day.
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Post by: ImAGeek
 JonWebb wrote:I’d love that to be the leg of the proto Slaanesh Knight for Titanicus, but it’s not quite bulky enough to sell me the scale...
One day we’ll get them... one day.
I was literally just gonna come and suggest that. Not as a particularly feasible idea, but...
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Actually, now you mention it....that might be a good spot!
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Post by: Theophony
 ImAGeek wrote: JonWebb wrote:I’d love that to be the leg of the proto Slaanesh Knight for Titanicus, but it’s not quite bulky enough to sell me the scale...
One day we’ll get them... one day.
I was literally just gonna come and suggest that. Not as a particularly feasible idea, but...
Maybe it's a "Feminine" looking Knight similar to the Dread Knight that the Grey Knights have.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
mechanicus comes to mind
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Post by: Captain Joystick
Hm... at first glance the foot has the segmented look of sororitas power armour boots, but more than the three segments or some kind of toe spike, so closer to rust stalker feet.
The heel is definitely the 'flat iron' foot seen in the mechanicus horses and under the toe armour of the Kastellan Robots.
It's probably infantry sized (paint lines would be thinner if the legs were big enough to allow it), and while mechanicus is most likely, it could conceivably be a character model from any imperium faction, really.
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Post by: Kanluwen
The more I look at this, the more I'm starting to think the Skitarii "HQ" we saw teased with the Palanite and Death Guard guy is a 'support HQ' while this is a Primus.
If you look at the 'foot', it doesn't seem to be a boot. It seems to be a mechanical bit ala the foot on a Kastelan robot.
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Post by: Totalwar1402
I reckon that’s probably a Sisters of Battle unit or character. The general shape of the armour and the flier de Le. Sure other Imperial units do have that style like the Inquisitors.
With the joint and robotic foot I am wondering if this is meant to be like Fallout 4 power armour. So it’s a bulkier suit for carrying bigger guns. Could be a special character but I’d really like them to make a new unit.
I mean they did drop that article saying the Sisters had sold really well and teasing they’d be getting new stuff like the Palatine (likely their 9th Ed codex). Plus the basic Sisters unit selling really well. So, dropping a bigger version of the core unit ala Heavy Intercessors could make sense. They do only have one troop choice....
Just curious on the highlighting coz I am struggling to judge the scale of this thing? Any ideas?
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Post by: Voss
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well, it’s definitely a leg. Yep.
Wonder if these 24 treats will be different bits of relatively few models?
Probably. I'm slightly disappointed they didn't arrange the advent grid in such a way that they show off 'whole' models when more panels are open. But alas, a leg to the knee just doesn't work in the second row.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Forgeworld did that in the past, with that terribly painted Space Wolf Terminator. I wouldn't mind an advent grid pattern, but the model in question would have to be something spectacular to warrant that hype. A primarch or something even grander. I don't think even the new Sigvald model, magnificent though he may be, could justify 25 days of teases.
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Post by: Dandelion
My bet is on sisters of battle. The shape of the leg and boot are almost identical to sororitas power armor. The trim is shared by most imperium factions at this point: knights, admech, scions, and that new limited ed. chaplain all have the same kind of trim. Imo, it’s likely either a character or some elite new unit.
That said, power armor inquisitor is also possible.
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Post by: Dudeface
Dandelion wrote:My bet is on sisters of battle. The shape of the leg and boot are almost identical to sororitas power armor. The trim is shared by most imperium factions at this point: knights, admech, scions, and that new limited ed. chaplain all have the same kind of trim. Imo, it’s likely either a character or some elite new unit.
That said, power armor inquisitor is also possible.
A sisters greaves carry on past the knee which isn't the case here, likewise the boot is less of a curved segmentation on the sister. Plus no fancy trim, even on a canoness.
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Post by: Voss
 GaroRobe wrote:Forgeworld did that in the past, with that terribly painted Space Wolf Terminator. I wouldn't mind an advent grid pattern, but the model in question would have to be something spectacular to warrant that hype. A primarch or something even grander. I don't think even the new Sigvald model, magnificent though he may be, could justify 25 days of teases.
I was thinking more multiple models, with the pictures trimmed to create a 'ensemble' group shot.
They could do a whole bunch of teases, with core of each model coming later in month, focusing on legs, weapons and shoulders for the first couple weeks.
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Post by: Dandelion
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Dandelion wrote:Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Nobody has said it "has to be identical to the current models". What is an important thing to note, however, is that there are design aesthetics that are across a range.
That trim and kneepad being different to the Sororitas 'design aesthetic' hints towards it not being a part of the faction.
Right now the closest matches are those of Skitarii:
I genuinely would not be shocked if whatever is coming for AdMech includes a 'character wave' ala the Genestealer Cult Codex for 8th.
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Post by: Coenus Scaldingus
Dandelion wrote:Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
It matches the armor on skitarii vehicles, but is more ornate than on infantry. My guess is a Tempestus Scion character of some sort, like a named Tempestus Prime
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Post by: Totalwar1402
Kanluwen wrote:Dandelion wrote:Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Nobody has said it "has to be identical to the current models". What is an important thing to note, however, is that there are design aesthetics that are across a range.
That trim and kneepad being different to the Sororitas 'design aesthetic' hints towards it not being a part of the faction.
Right now the closest matches are those of Skitarii:
I genuinely would not be shocked if whatever is coming for AdMech includes a 'character wave' ala the Genestealer Cult Codex for 8th.
How? The Skitari foot is a slab of metal meant to show how they’ve been chopped up by the tech priests and rendered inhuman cyborgs. Not an ornate, vaguely feminine, slightly kinky boot whose front vaguely resembles a certain piece of artwork. I get that there’s a joint at the ankle but you see that on the Canoness bionic as well. We saw a more detailed Skitari commander in the teaser and he isn’t remotely like that model. To be Admech it would need to be a totally new unit type of robo assassin women or something like that. Which is quite left field.
I’ve been more convinced by the argument it’s a Fem Knight due to the shape of the trim. But then because Sisters models are quite small they might be adding that on a more upscaled model.
I am pretty convinced it’s big sisters or some kind of mini mini Knight. Although a completely humanoid Knight would be a departure as well.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
Definitely has Titan/Mechanicus flair on the trim. Maybe something like the lady assassin in the 30k novel Mechanicus?
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Post by: Totalwar1402
 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:Dandelion wrote:Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.
But we know they are getting a new unit in the Palatine and possibly codex pretty soon. GW did an article recently reflecting on how well the range went. It’s really not impossible they might get a second wave.
If it’s an upscaled variant of Sisters armour you would want to add more trim and change certain setups like the knee and foot. You would want to visually distinguish it in he same way a Hevay Intercessors doesn’t look like an Intercessor. But still keep general look. For example on the resin Canoness they do have a more rounded foot and a separate segment at the knee. Making the knee a separate section rather than one block is probably a design choice to add more detail.
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Post by: Dandelion
Coenus Scaldingus wrote:Dandelion wrote:Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.
I’m partially basing this off the several chaplains we got that have ornate trimmed greaves despite normal primaris not having those. Same basic shape but with extra trim for bling. Plus, just compare intercessors with blade guard. Same silhouette but with added bling. And considering how well sisters sold and how they featured in the marketing animation, there’s enough reason to believe GW will try unnecessarily expanding their range, just like with marines.
I just don’t think the trim is an indication of anything other than it being imperium. It’s certainly common across multiple imperium factions. We also know for sure a palatine is on the way, so new sisters are definitely on the way. But it’s all speculation, so I’m more likely to be wrong than right.
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Post by: Segersgia
Reminds me of Verydian's Boots
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Post by: Kanluwen
Totalwar1402 wrote:
How? The Skitari foot is a slab of metal meant to show how they’ve been chopped up by the tech priests and rendered inhuman cyborgs. Not an ornate, vaguely feminine, slightly kinky boot whose front vaguely resembles a certain piece of artwork. I get that there’s a joint at the ankle but you see that on the Canoness bionic as well. We saw a more detailed Skitari commander in the teaser and he isn’t remotely like that model. To be Admech it would need to be a totally new unit type of robo assassin women or something like that. Which is quite left field.
Please note that I did not say the foot was what I called out. I called out the kneepad and the trim on the legplate. And while yeah, the front resembles that blanche art...it's not like any of the Skitarii legs that you so helpfully pointed out are robotic are male or female. Even the one previewed with the Palantine is the same way: they're just made to look like the 'bones' of a leg.
I don't know what this is. I'm leaning towards Mechanicus over anything else, with Knights or Scions as the runner-up. Especially since the trim is not a fleur de lys but rather the arrows of the Mech/Scions setups.
I’ve been more convinced by the argument it’s a Fem Knight due to the shape of the trim. But then because Sisters models are quite small they might be adding that on a more upscaled model.
I am pretty convinced it’s big sisters or some kind of mini mini Knight. Although a completely humanoid Knight would be a departure as well.
But we know they are getting a new unit in the Palatine and possibly codex pretty soon. GW did an article recently reflecting on how well the range went. It’s really not impossible they might get a second wave.
If it’s an upscaled variant of Sisters armour you would want to add more trim and change certain setups like the knee and foot. You would want to visually distinguish it in he same way a Hevay Intercessors doesn’t look like an Intercessor. But still keep general look. For example on the resin Canoness they do have a more rounded foot and a separate segment at the knee. Making the knee a separate section rather than one block is probably a design choice to add more detail.
And even then, it would still be weird for the trim to be added when even the Canoness don't feature it.
Though you do bring up an interesting point about 'Heavy Intercessors'. One of the most heavily requested things for Skitarii oriented lists were heavy/special weapon styled squads...and the heavier legplate shown here would not be wildly out of place for something of that nature.
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Post by: Sotahullu
Well I am going with AdMech on this one, some supporting character. Feels and shows bit mechanical.
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Post by: cody.d.
Does anyone else think that the size of the detailing on the top and bottom makes it look like it could be a much larger model? Perhaps a nanbai model for sisters? Or a super heavy walker for them, like a mechanical statue or some such.
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Post by: posermcbogus
Man, I love coming into this thread just for all the totally outlandish theories that people have completely convinced themselves are the most plausible and reasonable outcomes. Shine on you crazy diamonds!
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Post by: cody.d.
 posermcbogus wrote:Man, I love coming into this thread just for all the totally outlandish theories that people have completely convinced themselves are the most plausible and reasonable outcomes. Shine on you crazy diamonds!
I mean, if you went back 3 editions and told people that marines would get a hover tank with a plasma or minigun main turret with sponsons over the doorways and grenade launchers on the side of the turrets they'd probably tell you yer nuts. GW puts out some weird gak mate, any guess we make is likely as not to be spot on these days.
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Post by: Voss
cody.d. wrote:
Does anyone else think that the size of the detailing on the top and bottom makes it look like it could be a much larger model? Perhaps a nanbai model for sisters? Or a super heavy walker for them, like a mechanical statue or some such.
Nope. Just looks like a GW painter absurdly overused 'edge highlighting' again.
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Post by: Tiberius501
I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.
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Post by: cody.d.
 Tiberius501 wrote:I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.
Possible. But they don't usually do much to show off feminine traits do they? An inquisitor perhaps? It does look like a well made piece of tech whatever it is.
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Post by: Tiberius501
cody.d. wrote: Tiberius501 wrote:I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.
Possible. But they don't usually do much to show off feminine traits do they? An inquisitor perhaps? It does look like a well made piece of tech whatever it is.
I’m not sure if it’s feminine, could be though. Just reminds me of the normal Skitarii legs but much more ornate, and the other details remind me the AdMech. That said, it’s curvy enough to be a female leg and I wouldn’t be surprised by another inquisitor model. I am however almost 100% certain the foot is a prosthetic/robot foot.
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Post by: dogfender
Wow I wonder what that sisters of battle leg could be attached to?
Can’t wait for a teaser of a space marine shoulder pad as if it is something not expected at this point.
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Post by: terry
except this model was a homeage to the old sisters of battle codex art and not a regulair model of the range
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Post by: StraightSilver
That armour is almost identical to the armour on Imperial Knights?
So it might be a new Imperial Knight special character or (totally on a limb) infantry for Knight houses?
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Post by: silverstu
I'm not sure it is a leg- the "foot" looks off- short and heavy. Its looks like it might be a Library attached to the top of something.. [then again is probably just a sisters model..]
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Post by: Dudeface
StraightSilver wrote:That armour is almost identical to the armour on Imperial Knights?
So it might be a new Imperial Knight special character or (totally on a limb) infantry for Knight houses?
That's my hopes despite not being a collector, would be a cool opportunity.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Ecclesiarchy or Inquisition...take yer pick!
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Post by: Theophony
Paperboy squig
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Greatcoat guard adjutant.
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Post by: JSG
Inquisitorial Retinue.
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Post by: PoorGravitasHandling
There was that crazy rumor about the next killteam box being greatcoats v ork kommandos
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Post by: Dudeface
We have a female boot in the shape/form of a scion and a fella (assumingly) with some paperwork bearing what looks like an inquisitor seal.
Me thinks inquisitor retinues might be on the way back in plastic?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I’d agree on the book seeming to have the =][= symbol.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I smell characters for the next board game.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Another fair shout. If it is Inquisition, I could go for a boxed game pre-codex release.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
I don’t see bars - could be the skull-][ of the Ecclesiarchy.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Dudeface wrote:We have a female boot in the shape/form of a scion and a fella (assumingly) with some paperwork bearing what looks like an inquisitor seal. Me thinks inquisitor retinues might be on the way back in plastic?
We have a bionic leg that's armored and trimmed with a Mechanicus/Scion flair and a book with what is either the Ecclesiarchy or Inquisitorial seal...and no suggestions or implications that these things are tied together. It 'feels' closer to that iconography than the Inquisition though.
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Post by: GaroRobe
If the two pics are related AND if they both point to Inquisitors, I really hope the boot belongs to some new retinue character, not another inquisitor. We've got two good female inquisitors in plastic, and unless GW wants to have one for each of the three Ordos, I don't think we need another one.
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Post by: Shadox
 Mr_Rose wrote:
I don’t see bars - could be the skull-][ of the Astra Militarum.
Could be many of the Adeptus symbols, 'cept the Arbites, you probably would be able to see the scales.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Someone pointed out that the armor sort of matches the dead body on Szera's base. Similar curves, etc. So maybe Ecclesiarchy
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
That’s a possibility.
On the leg? Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but it strikes me as not being production armour, rather something a bit more special, like a custom job?
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Post by: Jadenim
Wasn’t there rumour / speculation a while back of a new Kill Team box, like rogue trader but Inquisition?
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Post by: Mentlegen324
That bionic leg doesn't seem very much like Adeptus Mechancius stuff to me. The overall look of the armoured part with the edge trim and slight bit of ornamentation does however remind me of the chest and shoulder armour on Tempestus Scions.
As for the one holding a book, perhaps some sort of Valhallan Ice Warrior? The sleeve on the coat makes it seem like some sort of greatcoat and it looks like they may have a sash on too? No idea how the book and scroll would fit that though.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Jadenim wrote:Wasn’t there rumour / speculation a while back of a new Kill Team box, like rogue trader but Inquisition?
There was wishlisting of one, yes.
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Post by: LiftForSwift
About damn time, a normal human coming to AOS or 40K! Also to the guy saying Valhallans, please dude, don't give me hope like that ;_;
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Post by: Geifer
It's been pointed out that Sisters have had a large release and rightly don't need new stuff at this time, consider that we're still missing Death Cult Assassins and any variety of priest (modern plastics thereof, anyway). We know we're getting a Palatine so I think it's possible that a new codex with a small model release is possible to fill the remaining gaps.
Considering how GW went about reimagining Repentia, I could see the armored leg belonging to a new version of Death Cult Assassin. Robed dude with literature would obviously fit the way Ecclesiarchy priests got represented in the past.
I want this to be Inquisition, personally, but with the way GW has handled Inquisition in the recent past I can't help but stick with a believe it when I see it approach when it comes to them.
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Post by: Coenus Scaldingus
Inquisition retinue or Ecclesiarchy would both be great to see. Ideally not restricted to a new Warhammer Quest, though if the models were good enough, even that might be acceptable...
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Post by: Overread
Odd looking beasty - that rear most fang on the left almost looks like its more of a metal ring in texture and style. Some huge wyrm raising its head whilst shackled or perhaps its not alive and its a stonework with a huge handle underneath?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
another inquisitorial pet?
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Post by: Burnage
Maybe a bit biased here, but my first thought on seeing today's rumour was "plastic Khymerae"...
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Post by: terry
 Burnage wrote:Maybe a bit biased here, but my first thought on seeing today's rumour was "plastic Khymerae"...
that would mean they have reduced the number of eyes
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Overread wrote:Odd looking beasty - that rear most fang on the left almost looks like its more of a metal ring in texture and style. Some huge wyrm raising its head whilst shackled or perhaps its not alive and its a stonework with a huge handle underneath?
This is a good spot! The rear 'fang' seems to be part of a lead/bit.
I'm going with some kind of warbeasty for AoS.
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Post by: Old-Four-Arms
Hm, the front "fangs" look like barbels to me...
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Front fangs also look more like stylized statue fangs than real fangs. I'm gonna say... it's a Space Marine backpack arm thingy. Salamanders?
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Post by: MobileSuitRandom
Yeah, I'm seeing barbels at the front and a metal ring in the rear, too! Doesn't mean it has to be shackled, tho, might be a pet 'holding' something, like a lantern or whatever? Like Lotann's familiar holds his weapons and scrolls.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Honestly, the eyes make me think of this rumor engine
It does look like something metal is in its mouth, but if its a ring, it doesn't loop back to the other side. Maybe it's a new pack lizard that skinks used, similar to a salamander. I could see GW taking seraphon into a less-traditinoal lizard looking army.
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Post by: jaredb
It's got two sets of eyes, which makes me think it's more an alien 40k thing, than an AOS thing. Maybe it's Exodites.
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Post by: Overread
 lord_blackfang wrote:Front fangs also look more like stylized statue fangs than real fangs. I'm gonna say... it's a Space Marine backpack arm thingy. Salamanders?
That was what made me think of it being a statue decoration; however they could also be "skull fangs". Ergo either an exposed bony skull that has fangs. over the top of the lip and face, like mask.
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Post by: Danny76
GaroRobe wrote:Honestly, the eyes make me think of this rumor engine
It does look like something metal is in its mouth, but if its a ring, it doesn't loop back to the other side. Maybe it's a new pack lizard that skinks used, similar to a salamander. I could see GW taking seraphon into a less-traditinoal lizard looking army.
We can’t say it doesn’t loop back round based on the rumour engine.
They’ve often cropped them in odd or interesting places
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Post by: hypnoticeris
 MobileSuitRandom wrote:Yeah, I'm seeing barbels at the front and a metal ring in the rear, too! Doesn't mean it has to be shackled, tho, might be a pet 'holding' something, like a lantern or whatever? Like Lotann's familiar holds his weapons and scrolls.
Other rumour pictures have been presented at weird angles or upside down... Maybe its some kind of mutant fish hanging from a fishing hook?
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Post by: Shadow Walker
2 sets of eyes so maybe some Necromunda mutated animal?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Eyes look to have been painted as gems?
I’m thinking it’s a sculpture rather than a skull?
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Post by: Kanluwen
It looks more like desaturation of the standard method they use for painting critter eyes.
I have zero ideas what this is. I don't think it is 40k related though. It feels more like it would be an AoS piece.
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Post by: Tastyfish
Idoneth Underworlds guy, if the first two are from 40K, seems we'd be due for a AoS one?
Though I'd be learning more towards new Kill team/Warhammer Quest - maybe even Inq vs Exodites if we're putting wild guesses in.
Necromunda is also a strong contender since they've got a smaller set of releases coming out in Jan
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Post by: GaroRobe
Janus Draik's pelt had eyes that have that glossy look. GW loves it
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Post by: Fayric
Its a shark-beastman chewing a water snake.
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
Tiberius501 wrote:I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.
But we already saw their legs and that's not remotely how they looked like?
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Post by: Argive
My money is on DE khymerea /Kroot thing for 40k..
My heart hopes for an exodite model..
My gut tells me it will be some piece for on obscure specialist game..
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Post by: grahamdbailey
It's clearly a Piscean Warrior! Fishmen are coming back to 40K!
Or something else, who can tell at this stage?
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Post by: GaroRobe
Looking at it again, is that actually a symbol on the top of its head? I thought it was like bone growths or horns, but it looks more like an eldar or aelf rune. Could be slaaneshy, too.
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Post by: Dudeface
Could be for anything but I feel the key detail is the lack of eyes.
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Post by: SKR.HH
Reminds me very heavily of the Dark Elves Bloodwrack Shrine...
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Post by: Marshal Loss
Could be something from the upcoming Hedonites release
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Post by: Cronch
I'd say Slaaneshi terrain, or decoration for a large model's base (Teclis comes with like, half a shrine on his base after all)
But the smooth features and human ears (well, not pointy anyway) suggests that rather than dark eldar.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Isn't the bloodwrack shrine statue also a human? Since dark elves are basically less kinky Dark Eldar, it could be for them.
Though slaanesh seems more obvious. The head seems kinda mutated, even ignoring the lack of features
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Post by: Overread
That stone avatar could be DoK or it could be Slaanesh. DoK do currently lack a terrain feature so it could be holding an extra large cauldron.
I'd not expect them to replace the cauldron kit itself, its fairly modern and a pretty big cornerstone of the faction and its getting started set.
Having just been reminded that they exist - could this be new Kroot pets?
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Post by: IanVanCheese
Overread wrote:That stone avatar could be DoK or it could be Slaanesh. DoK do currently lack a terrain feature so it could be holding an extra large cauldron.
I'd not expect them to replace the cauldron kit itself, its fairly modern and a pretty big cornerstone of the faction and its getting started set.
Having just been reminded that they exist - could this be new Kroot pets?
I'd love Kroot to be getting some love, but none of their stuff was multi-eyed like this. It'd be a pretty major redesign. I hope it's Kroot, but I doubt it. My vote goes to a weird one off for a boxed game.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
The Bloodwrack Shrine statue has pointed ears, and eyes. Doesn't mean it can't be the faction terrain for DOK, but it doesn't match the existing design.
Definitely leaning towards it being something for Hedonies, weren't there two rather large looking models in the Sigvald reveal video yet to be accounted for? Can very easily see it being part of a decorative base
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Post by: GaroRobe
Could be a nice addition to Voldermort here. The rumor engine is clearly marble though, so it's not a dude fused to a statue (as far as we know)
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Post by: MobileSuitRandom
There's also the unresolved kinda Slaaneshy or DElves/DEldar bowl with boiling body parts from March, which might belong on the same scenery piece / big centerpiece model? Or, wild guess, another completely bonkers new/'reimagined' death faction ...
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Post by: ursvamp
What do we think of the placement/order of the windows/boxes?
I was trying to find some kind of pattern to the numbers. They could just be random, of course, but having seen the first four I’m thinking maybe each column is dedicated to 1 category/game? So maye one column is 40k, one AoS, and then one each for specialist games in the two settings, maybe?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Either scenery, or a scenic base I reckon.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Maybe a super fancy DoK endless spell? Stone statue fits the whole Medusa theme
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Post by: weirdingway
The 4 eyed creature's barbel makes me think this might be a new representation of a Loxatl:
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Loxatl
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c0/Loxatl.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/550?cb=20121114210727
A set of diverse minor Xeno mercenaries usable by many armies would be amazing. More likely (and also amazing) would be a box set including a Loxatl (following the path of the Zoat, Ambull, etc), maybe as an adversary against an Ordo Xenos Inquisitorial warband ...
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
That's why 40k needs an even smaller scaled game like Underworlds.
Good excuse to make small sets of unique groups of models to fight each other.
I'd love a loxatl almost as much as I'd love actual Rak'Gol models.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Considering the Loxatl don't travel alone, it'd be weird to see a lone Loxatl up to shenanigans and mischief!
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Post by: Lord Perversor
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:That's why 40k needs an even smaller scaled game like Underworlds.
Good excuse to make small sets of unique groups of models to fight each other.
I'd love a loxatl almost as much as I'd love actual Rak'Gol models.
Something like Kill Team maybe?
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Post by: Mr_Rose
highlord tamburlaine wrote:That's why 40k needs an even smaller scaled game like Underworlds.
Good excuse to make small sets of unique groups of models to fight each other.
I'd love a loxatl almost as much as I'd love actual Rak'Gol models.
I was just thinking about how you’d work the basics of the Underworlds setting (small bands of warriors eternally resurrected to fight again in a confined arena) into 40K but then it hit me: Trazyn’s museum. He’s got thousands of examples of every species locked up, including more than one or two notables, so there’s also going to be some idiot trying to get in on their own in order to free some legendary hero or other. Add in the fact that it’s already a pocket dimension with its own rules of time and space and bam! We even have the main line plot hook of Greyfax getting out to tie into.
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Post by: Cronch
 Lord Perversor wrote: highlord tamburlaine wrote:That's why 40k needs an even smaller scaled game like Underworlds.
Good excuse to make small sets of unique groups of models to fight each other.
I'd love a loxatl almost as much as I'd love actual Rak'Gol models.
Something like Kill Team maybe?
Kill team, but with unique sculpts/themes like Warcry, so warbands like the mixed adventurers from Blackstone Fortress could fit easily.
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Post by: Kanluwen
So basically not Kill Team or WarCry or Blackstone Fortress?
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Post by: DaveC
Day 5 - Ah we already know what this one is
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Post by: Geifer
I guess GW makes so much stuff these days they can't keep track of it all anymore themselves. 
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Post by: mortar_crew
Indeed.
This one was easy.
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Post by: Tastyfish
It's one of those, but it's not that particular one. Corners are different
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Funny thing is we'd all be screaming Idoneth otherwise.
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Post by: GaroRobe
That's...something.
IF the Mystery Warband is for Bonespittaz, that could be them.
Doesn't really match any space wolf pelt, or the look of the updated grot wolf riders.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Ooooooooooooh, I think I know what it is!
Knights-Zephyros for Stormcast all are 'imbued' with a shard of power from a giant Godbeast wolf that Sigmar slew. They have wolf iconography on them for that reason.
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Post by: Overread
 Geifer wrote:I guess GW makes so much stuff these days they can't keep track of it all anymore themselves.
I think some of the releases we are getting are jumbled up compared to where GW wanted them to be. So some promotional stuff made earlier might be being pushed out now. EG the new warcry books are clearly coming earlier than expected because its forcing GW to tip their hand and show off the new slaanesh early when its clear that they were originally going to be a big Christmas Surprise.
It's likely many elements linked to what GW can produce; what they've stocks of; what's getting through from China as well as what isn't getting through the system and what is being put off. So chances are they are in a little jumble which will lead to minor things like this. Hopefully once the new edition and christmas bundle and christmas period are over GW will be able to have a more settled start to 2021; plus with the hope of lockdowns and covid safe restrictions in the workplace having a chance of ending in 2021 with vaccines going out.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Kanluwen wrote:Ooooooooooooh, I think I know what it is!
Knights-Zephyros for Stormcast all are 'imbued' with a shard of power from a giant Godbeast wolf that Sigmar slew. They have wolf iconography on them for that reason.
Are those a Chamber, or a...erm....Chapter equivalent the proper name of I can’t remember.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Nah, they're like captains or lieutenants for the ranger stormcasts. They've got one model, in the form of Neave Blacktalon. She's the one who fought the Plaguebearer on a Snail.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Ahh, gotcha.
Though that reminds me...got two issues of Conquest with the exclusive Stormcast on order.
Hopefully they’ll arrive this week.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Ooooooooooooh, I think I know what it is!
Knights-Zephyros for Stormcast all are 'imbued' with a shard of power from a giant Godbeast wolf that Sigmar slew. They have wolf iconography on them for that reason.
Are those a Chamber, or a...erm....Chapter equivalent the proper name of I can’t remember.
"Knights" are not a Chamber. They're part of the Chamber command equivalents. There's a number of different Knights, all effectively 'minor heroes'.
Venator, Zephyros, Azyros, Questor, Heraldor, Vexillus, and Incantor. Zephyros' only model currently is Naeve Blacktalon and one of the biggest 'mehs' of the Vanguard range that the Zephyros and Venators are supposed to be a part of. There's a few of us who love the Vanguard who have been pushing for a Lord-Aquilor on foot and a Zephyros that's actually intended to be a ranged assassin and we've seen what looks like parts of those in the form of those arrows.
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Post by: DaveC
Day 7
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Post by: Geifer
Neat. An ecclesiarch's mighty stick!
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Post by: ImAGeek
Yeah. Some kinda ecclesiarchal mace.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Bottom bit looks like a connection point, possibly to a machine of some kind?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Or it's the box power weapons have 
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
That’s a possibility.
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Post by: Jadenim
Desperately trying not to get my hopes up for Inquisition....
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Post by: Arbitrator
Jadenim wrote:Desperately trying not to get my hopes up for Inquisition....
Ecclesiarchy themed wave for Sisters seems more likely.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Hmm, this, yes. Mace and the power armour/bionic leg might go together. A Missionary, maybe? With the tome/scroll on a Preacher.
My hope though is a plastic Crusader kit with weapon options.
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Post by: terry
Jadenim wrote:Desperately trying not to get my hopes up for Inquisition....
the I isn't the Inquistion I, but the ecclesiarchy I, so that should stop your hopes
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Post by: Captain Joystick
We've seen the Ecclesiarchy symbol used with Hereticus inquisitors before (they're the ordo that deals with matters of ecclesiarchical doctrine, after all) and it would be nice to see them get a stock upgrade of the main Inquisition staples so they're not in their half new plastic / half finecast limbo state... but yeah, this is most likely something coming in a new wave of sisters stuff - possibly a palatine weapon or even a priest.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Isn't Greyfax Ordo Hereticus? I think we're missing Ordo Malleus in plastic, but the other Ordos have new models
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Post by: Quasistellar
Jadenim wrote:Desperately trying not to get my hopes up for Inquisition....
Never get your hopes up for Inquisition. . .
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Post by: Shadow Walker
Church or SoBs.
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Post by: Captain Joystick
GaroRobe wrote:Isn't Greyfax Ordo Hereticus? I think we're missing Ordo Malleus in plastic, but the other Ordos have new models
Greyfax is an ordo hereticus inquisitor in the same way that Marneus Calgar is space marine chapter master: yes she can counts-as in a pinch, but she's an iconic character with gear the generic equivalent doesn't have access to.
As it stands inquisitors are largely kitbash mandatory, and while I'd prefer they stay that way, it's a gap GW will eventually identify and if they ever *do* make a kit for them it'll mean they've been nailed down enough that we don't have to worry about entire loadouts being invalidated between editions.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Yes, Greyfax is Ordo Hereticus.
Still think people are barking up the wrong tree tying the bionic leg to anything Ecclesiarchal/Sisters.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
Guessing an Ecclesiarchy Priest (shared between SoB and IG) with power maul.
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Post by: Danny76
Necromunda probably have some kind of priest character coming or something..
Though anything Inquisition would always be welcome..
The crazy new Kill team box, and near,y all of the rumour engines are from the various characters
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Post by: JWBS
Necromunda traditionally has its own archetypes separate from the main lore, even the Arbites have their own lesser version (despite Necro being the ideal setting for Arbites), I really doubt it's Necromunda if it's Ecclesiarchy / administratum / =][=.
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Post by: Oguhmek
Would be nice with some new priests and missionaries. The old metal ones are very characterful, but on the small side nowadays.
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Post by: Arbitrator
Fraternis Militia would also give Sisters a badly needed second Troop choice.
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Post by: Overread
That's a fancy looking boot
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
See that?
That’s a foot, that is.
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Post by: JonWebb
Similar to the Rogue Trader (Kill Team) Lectro Tech Priest fellow with those flourishes.
Feels like its adding up to a retinue of characters of some description.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Jadenim wrote:Desperately trying not to get my hopes up for Inquisition....
A few factions use the ][, the priests have an eye with a circle/skull/sun in the center.
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Post by: KidCthulhu
That new foot looks like it has a fleur-de-lis to me. It's as if the angle is intentional so you don't fully see it and go "Oh, a new Sister model!"
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Post by: lord_blackfang
That foot is dwarf level chonkers, no way is it a sister.
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Post by: ImAGeek
As pointed out on TGA, she seems to be holding the punch dagger thing from an earlier rumour engine:
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Post by: Coenus Scaldingus
 KidCthulhu wrote:That new foot looks like it has a fleur- de-lis to me. It's as if the angle is intentional so you don't fully see it and go "Oh, a new Sister model!"
Looks like a side-on view of a little skull to me.
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah definitely skull.
Pirate vampire captains boot, of course..
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Post by: Jadenim
So Squat henchman?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Likely AoS, but not ruling out Kroot.
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Post by: Cronch
the metal hook thingy looks a tiny bit like a hammerhead, The Old World Sigmar model confirmed!
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Post by: LiftForSwift
A disturbing lack of Destruction rumour engines, feelsbad
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Post by: Overread
Unless GW is going to do something not greenskin for destruction. Granted Orruks deserve a nice big update, but I'd welcome GW branching out with that GW and giving them something new to work with.
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
Overread wrote:Unless GW is going to do something not greenskin for destruction. Granted Orruks deserve a nice big update, but I'd welcome GW branching out with that GW and giving them something new to work with.
My fingers will be forever crossed for Fimir.
Or failing that some kind of savage lizardmen. That concept would be great.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Flask looks like something that could be present on the Soulblight warband.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Biologus Putrifier had similar shaped vials (but his have a different bottom.)
It honestly could still be for Hedonites. Most of the armored ones have some kind of flask with blue liquid at their waist. Maybe the Lesser Hedonites have less fancy bottles or liquids.
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Post by: Marshal Loss
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Post by: Overread
And that is why industry has health and safety standards! Who lost their hand?
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Post by: Nevelon
Overread wrote:And that is why industry has health and safety standards! Who lost their hand?
All hands on deck!
Looks like some sort of ship’s rigging thing. Little robust to be a banner topper. Although with giants/ogres/chaos, who knows.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Overread wrote:And that is why industry has health and safety standards! Who lost their hand?
Honest Gitsnik’s Second Hand Shop.
Da bezt kwalitee arms yoo kan aford Automatically Appended Next Post: Could be the counter weight of a catapult.
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Post by: bullyboy
Slightly disturbed we haven't seen a single image that screams Aeldari, which I was hoping for a big range reboot next year.
That last image just screamed undead pirates to me, don't know why.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Could be the front hitch of a new corpse cart. The current one is still a great kit, but maybe they'll make one that's more plant-y, to fit with that silhouette
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, also the bottom part matches the top of the bottle rumor engine. Its all connected, man
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Post by: Overread
 bullyboy wrote:Slightly disturbed we haven't seen a single image that screams Aeldari, which I was hoping for a big range reboot next year.
That last image just screamed undead pirates to me, don't know why.
There's already several big updates in the works that we are aware of. Eg Slaanesh in AoS is getting a fairly big update. So it might be that Eldar could be coming, just not right now.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Bonus from the BB monthly column
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Post by: Danny76
What was that potion burgle guy with the vat on his back?
He was mentioned recently somewhere I think. Maybe they are hus
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Blatantly Gretchen Wächter, the wraith Star Player.
I hope Bryce The Slice is next.
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Post by: Jadenim
Overread wrote:And that is why industry has health and safety standards! Who lost their hand?
I’m sorry, that is incorrect. That hand is not lost, it’s quite clearly nailed to the beam, where anyone can find it.
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Post by: Oguhmek
That's a cute little wheel.
Grot bikers?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Gyro Stabilised Mono Wheel!
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Post by: Glumy
Squat bikers
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Might actually, genuinely, be a Squig! I’m seeing what might be leg stumps and a tail.
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Post by: Shadow Walker
Orkoid or Necromunda bike?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Wouldn't be surprised. Been enough many mentions of them in lore recently.
Certainly a very intriguing picture. Automatically Appended Next Post: It's a bit too ramshackle for squats tho innit?
Cawdor warmachine? Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually from the size I'm going to say this is an AT/AI scale Ork thing.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Nah, that’s a mechanism jammed crudely into flesh and not baroque enough for the Adeptus Mechanicus so it’s Orky. But it’s also leaning forward and has a tail so it’s a squig.
But cyber-squigs can only mean one thing: Cyborks are back!
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Post by: silverstu
lord_blackfang wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised. Been enough many mentions of them in lore recently.
Certainly a very intriguing picture.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's a bit too ramshackle for squats tho innit?
Cawdor warmachine?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually from the size I'm going to say this is an AT/AI scale Ork thing.
I thought it was too well built for orks funnily enough. Cawdor is possible or maybe some strange mechanium thing .. hard to see if its a bike or its attached to something organic..very interesting as you say though..
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Post by: Kanluwen
Tankbusta Bommsquig.
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Post by: Oguhmek
Maybe it's a bomb squig? Plastic Tankbusta kit?
Edit; ninja'd!
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Post by: Sigismund HRE
My first thought was a Chaos Mutilator, otherwise like the others said orky.
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Post by: Dudeface
 silverstu wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised. Been enough many mentions of them in lore recently.
Certainly a very intriguing picture.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's a bit too ramshackle for squats tho innit?
Cawdor warmachine?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually from the size I'm going to say this is an AT/AI scale Ork thing.
I thought it was too well built for orks funnily enough. Cawdor is possible or maybe some strange mechanium thing .. hard to see if its a bike or its attached to something organic..very interesting as you say though..
Stealer cults maybe? They're middle level of ramshackle and it being small makes me think of landing gear, maybe a cults flyer?
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Post by: Theophony
New Necromunda House of Speed gang.
it'll be a mixed sex gang which makes it's credits in illegal roller derby action. Gladiators on wheels.
Someone at GW has been watching a lot of early 80's sports reruns during the Pandemic.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Looks like some cloth or flesh over that shaft, so maybe a Servitor or Ork? Bet it goes wheely fast too.
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Post by: EldarExarch
I also agree with previous guesses of Tank Bomb Squig.
It honestly looks like the little squigs legs are fused into the wheel and that's his tail over the right side and he has like a harness or something else holding him upright on the wheel.
If so...wow so adorable and deadly, I'll take 10 please
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Looks too ramshackle for GSC to me. They use repurposed civilian machinery, not cobbled together from scrap with visible damage.
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Post by: vim_the_good
Agree with Bomb Squig. Is that a frag grenade? Maybe part of a harness.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
Mr_Rose wrote:Nah, that’s a mechanism jammed crudely into flesh and not baroque enough for the Adeptus Mechanicus so it’s Orky. But it’s also leaning forward and has a tail so it’s a squig.
But cyber-squigs can only mean one thing: Cyborks are back!
Could be a bomb squig for a new tankbusta kit.
Edit: Ninjas are fast
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Post by: jaredb
Could be for Cawdor in Necromunda as well. They already strap bombs and grenades to rats.
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
Yep that's a bike.
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Post by: Theophony
GorkaMorka Returns
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Confident this is a mono-wheel.
I’ve crudely marked up this photo to explain.
Circled in green? Pretty sure those are leg stumps of some kind.
Circled in yellow? Note the drive chain. It passes up, not across. This suggests the drive wheel is tucked up under what I believe to be legs.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Confident this is a mono-wheel.
I’ve crudely marked up this photo to explain.
Circled in green? Pretty sure those are leg stumps of some kind.
Circled in yellow? Note the drive chain. It passes up, not across. This suggests the drive wheel is tucked up under what I believe to be legs.
Ork varient of Roboduck?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
One of these. Steered by waving your arms around.
Been an Orky Bionik since the very beginning - and if you were really lucky, you also got a Kustom Thursta-Boosta Bionik as well!
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Post by: Overread
GORKAMORKA returns!
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:One of these. Steered by waving your arms around.
Been an Orky Bionik since the very beginning - and if you were really lucky, you also got a Kustom Thursta-Boosta Bionik as well!
Nice. I love when GW references old models and fluff.
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
Maybe It's AdMech, although it seems way too normal for AdMech, they don't have a single wheeled vehicle.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That was my first thought as well.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
That’s because we are smart.
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Post by: Niiai
It is to small for GSC bike wheel does it not? Perhaps Necromunda bike?
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Niiai wrote:
It is to small for GSC bike wheel does it not? Perhaps Necromunda bike?
It's too small to be any kind of bike, period.
Anyways, the furred boot has been solved...completely by accident! Maki/Mari on Twitter received the model instead of Bugman.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
An update of this bad boy.
I’d say GorkaMorka now VERY likely!
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Post by: GaroRobe
HA! And thats not the same ork we saw teased...
Waaagh?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
And I’m pretty sure the model was based on art.
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Post by: GaroRobe
It does say "limited" at the bottom, so maybe just a random exclusive ork that will be coming soon (and probably revealed by GW tmrw haha)
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
GW sent the wrong model to someone? And not only the wrong model, but an unreleased and unrevealed model? Ooops! GaroRobe wrote:It does say "limited" at the bottom, so maybe just a random exclusive ork that will be coming soon (and probably revealed by GW tmrw haha)
You mean the "Games Workshop Limited". That's the company name.
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Post by: Overread
 H.B.M.C. wrote:GW sent the wrong model to someone? And not only the wrong model, but an unreleased and unrevealed model?
A year or two back they sent the Slaanesh fiend kit to someone in a bulk load of waste sprue from the factory. So the guy running an ebay account just threw it up for sale. It even had the one they'd built for demo painting removed from it. Suffice to say the net went wild and we got a funny video from GW about it (a mock training video for staff in the "little timmy" style of presentation). Whilst I don't expect that right now (corona having shut down things like that being done on the quick); yeah I can see GW going oops on this new ork.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Yeah, I saw that boot standing on that box’o’bullets and bam! Right back to playing Gorkamorka on the carpet with buddies. I still have that guy from back then too…
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
It's not a Gorkamorka mini. It's a special character release:  Overread wrote:A year or two back they sent the Slaanesh fiend kit to someone in a bulk load of waste sprue from the factory. So the guy running an ebay account just threw it up for sale. It even had the one they'd built for demo painting removed from it. Suffice to say the net went wild and we got a funny video from GW about it (a mock training video for staff in the "little timmy" style of presentation). Whilst I don't expect that right now (corona having shut down things like that being done on the quick); yeah I can see GW going oops on this new ork.
Oh yes I remember that now. But this is an entire shink-wrapped box. Not some waste sprue.
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Post by: lasgunpacker
"Commemorative Series"? Sounds interesting... and expensive.
There are certainly a fair few characters I would love to see come back in this format, mostly WHFB. Green knight for instance.
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Post by: Shadox
 lasgunpacker wrote:"Commemorative Series"? Sounds interesting... and expensive.
There are certainly a fair few characters I would love to see come back in this format, mostly WHFB. Green knight for instance.
I don't think this means much, the last Termi-Chaplain was already part of the 'Commemorative Series'. It's probably a catch-all term for nice character modell in a stand-alone release.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
New store birthday model maybe?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Wrong thread!
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Post by: Geifer
 Shadox wrote: lasgunpacker wrote:"Commemorative Series"? Sounds interesting... and expensive.
There are certainly a fair few characters I would love to see come back in this format, mostly WHFB. Green knight for instance.
I don't think this means much, the last Termi-Chaplain was already part of the 'Commemorative Series'. It's probably a catch-all term for nice character modell in a stand-alone release.
Yeah, GW started that label in spring with the made to order Sister and Terminator (Librarian?) that were originally meant for store events. It's the term for limited exclusive models they use at the moment.
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Post by: terry
looks skavenish or cawdor
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Post by: Kanluwen
Key looks similar to the key being held by a raven we saw earlier this year.
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Post by: GaroRobe
so...many...keys.
Fyreslayers, space marine, ad mech, undead, everyone has keys.
But I'm betting on undead.
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
My bet is House Cawdor actually
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Same thought I had honestly.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
The rows seem to focus on accessory, limbs, animals, and terrain in the grid. Bit mixed with the punch dagger and ecclesarchy mace though.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Added to the OP.
Oh, and it can be someone else’s turn to run the 2021 thread 
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Post by: Tastyfish
Starting to feel a bit like familiars or add ons for a Warhammer Quest to me.
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Post by: Mr Gutsy
Maybe one of the wheels of a DeffKopta?
It definitely needs a new kit, i can't believe that GW are still selling the old metal one from Gorkamorka.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
No reason for landing gear to have a drive chain tho. I'm jumping on the gyrostabilized monosquig bandwagon.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Here's the Inquisition content you've all been waiting for!
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Post by: GaroRobe
I really hope Inquisitors can be used as HQs for Deathwatch, Sisters, and Grey Knights.
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Post by: Yodhrin
GaroRobe wrote:I really hope Inquisitors can be used as HQs for Deathwatch, Sisters, and Grey Knights.
You'll be lucky if they have more than one set gear loadout, nevermind rules for use in multiple armies.
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Post by: Shadow Walker
Maybe it is not an Inquisitor but a member of the retinue, like an Interrogator? It would be nice to have more models normally encountered only in the wh40k rpgs.
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Post by: zamerion
in the end will the expansion of inquisition be true for kill team?
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Post by: Overread
An Inquisitor and a handful of models for a retinue - able to be a leader in several Imperial armies on its own representing the Inquisitions ability to requisition the services of others who follow the Emperor.
It would be a better way to represent them than a whole codex of their own and an army; just make them a leader attachment.
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Post by: Sabotage!
zamerion wrote:in the end will the expansion of inquisition be true for kill team?
Now would be the time to do it I suppose, it could be part of what ever that Kill Team trailer that was revealed ago is.
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Post by: KillerAngel
Having acolytes that aren't glorified guardsmen would be nice. 4+ armor, and 3+ BS for starters. Also a way to take them without spending 3cp on a Vanguard detachment.
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Post by: Kanluwen
KillerAngel wrote:Having acolytes that aren't glorified guardsmen would be nice. 4+ armor, and 3+ BS for starters. Also a way to take them without spending 3cp on a Vanguard detachment.
So...Scions or Skitarii.
You've literally just asked for carapace armored(4+), 3+ BS humans which is what Scions and Skitarii are.
Inquisition and Acolytes are going to be a difficult concept to ever really 'get right' because it has the same issue we've seen in translating the Warcry warbands into AoS proper: they're mixed up batches of things that are effectively characters. Having an Inquisitorial Warband being a thing taken via a Supreme Command Detachment(Inquisitor with Supreme Commander and their warband being a 'bought as one unit separated out into many') would be the best setup.
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Post by: JWBS
Indeed, 4+ armour and 3+ BS means they're Scions or Skitarii, just as 5+ armour and 4+ BS means they're literally Guardsmen.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Codex Inquisition confirmed!
Glad I held onto my Kyoto Pattern Inquisition Squad
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Post by: zedmeister
Could be a rework of the Inquisitor 54mm game into 28mm 32mm...?
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Post by: KillerAngel
Kanluwen wrote:KillerAngel wrote:Having acolytes that aren't glorified guardsmen would be nice. 4+ armor, and 3+ BS for starters. Also a way to take them without spending 3cp on a Vanguard detachment.
So...Scions or Skitarii.
You've literally just asked for carapace armored(4+), 3+ BS humans which is what Scions and Skitarii are.
Yes, exactly that. I want Scions (coughKasrkinscough) in my Inquisition detachment, with inquisition wargear choices and some thematic special rules / stratagems.
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Post by: Kanluwen
KillerAngel wrote: Kanluwen wrote:KillerAngel wrote:Having acolytes that aren't glorified guardsmen would be nice. 4+ armor, and 3+ BS for starters. Also a way to take them without spending 3cp on a Vanguard detachment.
So...Scions or Skitarii. You've literally just asked for carapace armored(4+), 3+ BS humans which is what Scions and Skitarii are.
Yes, exactly that. I want Scions (coughKasrkinscough) in my Inquisition detachment, with inquisition wargear choices and some thematic special rules / stratagems.
(coughKasrkinweremostlypartofOrdoCadiaandSepulturumifwe'retalkinginquisitioncough) Real-talk: Do you not see the silliness of asking for "not glorified Guardsmen"...while asking for exactly that? Stormtroopers/Scions literally were called "Glory Boys" in the lore by Guardsmen! Said before, will continue saying: Inquisition is going to be a hard thing to translate onto the tabletop into a way that isn't just "X army +1". It's especially going to be more difficult if people don't want to be locked out of old models. Something worth noting/mentioning is that until we see a return to 'Grenadiers' for Guard? Stuff like Kasrkin just ain't happening. It sucks but that seems to be the purview of just Scions now.
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
Knowing GW we'll see most of those revealed in like a year and it makes me sad
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Post by: Sabotage!
Kanluwen wrote:KillerAngel wrote:Having acolytes that aren't glorified guardsmen would be nice. 4+ armor, and 3+ BS for starters. Also a way to take them without spending 3cp on a Vanguard detachment.
So...Scions or Skitarii.
You've literally just asked for carapace armored(4+), 3+ BS humans which is what Scions and Skitarii are.
Inquisition and Acolytes are going to be a difficult concept to ever really 'get right' because it has the same issue we've seen in translating the Warcry warbands into AoS proper: they're mixed up batches of things that are effectively characters. Having an Inquisitorial Warband being a thing taken via a Supreme Command Detachment(Inquisitor with Supreme Commander and their warband being a 'bought as one unit separated out into many') would be the best setup.
It worked just fine in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. I don’t see a reason why it couldn’t work now. It might just require slightly more thought for the people playing the game. Really GW just needs to do Codex Inquisition and let them be their own thing. They get Inquisitors and retinues can all take a few units from the guard book, a few units from the SM book, let them take Enforcers (great way to reuse the Necromunda box) and then depending on their Ordos can take a couple units from Deathwatch, Sisters, or Grey Knights. People shouldn’t have to jump through a bunch of hoops to play an army which likely isn’t going to be particularly competitive anyways. I mean every Space Marine Chapter under the sun has their own book or supplement, why not give a faction that is actually unique one?
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Knowing GW we'll see most of those revealed in like a year and it makes me sad
And then it will probably be a single named character with a henchman or two for a campaign book....
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Post by: KillerAngel
Kanluwen wrote:
Real-talk:
Do you not see the silliness of asking for "not glorified Guardsmen"...while asking for exactly that? Stormtroopers/Scions literally were called "Glory Boys" in the lore by Guardsmen!
Wut?
Currently you can have GEQ acolytes. I want scion equivalent acolytes. Or really anything that says "I'm somewhat special, hence why an Inquisitor let me be in their retinue." Preferably in a way that doesn't involve spending 3CP. The OG Daemonhunters codex had a (daemon)host of options.
I'm not sure why this is an argument?
Plenty of room for cool stuff in the Crusade rules as well.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Easy. It matches the back of the dead missionary/priest on the ground of Illuminor Szeras base. It also corresponds to that earlier rumor engine pic (the one carrying books)
Couldn't find a good picture, but you can see it on the bottom left corner
Edit: Blackstone fortress has it too
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Good memory, man.
So Ecclesiarchal something something retinue or warband for sure.
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Post by: silverstu
Yeah looks like maybe a Inquisitor and retinue? Maybe Killteam/Quest?
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Post by: Dudeface
There isnt a missionary/preacher you can buy in plastic for sister atm is there?
There's a lot of stuff that smells of both sisters, inquisitors and possibly kill team imo.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Dudeface wrote:There isnt a missionary/preacher you can buy in plastic for sister atm is there?
There's a lot of stuff that smells of both sisters, inquisitors and possibly kill team imo.
There is not a Missionary or Crusader available in plastic by themselves, no. Blackstone Fortress and Escalation have them available but they're on shared sprues with the other explorers and have not been released outside of those games.
It is worth mentioning that it would tick off two factions for a box release if done right--Guard and Sisters both. Would be interesting if Missionaries/Preachers came two or three to a box ala the Dark Apostle for CSM.
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Post by: GaroRobe
God, I'd love a dedicated Crusader release. The one from Escalation looks great, but even online, nobody is selling it at a reasonable price
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
I just hope we see any of those this bloody decade
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Post by: Kanluwen
GaroRobe wrote:God, I'd love a dedicated Crusader release. The one from Escalation looks great, but even online, nobody is selling it at a reasonable price
Combat Arena is still a thing from Barnes and Noble.
It's $39 for the explorers only...and you can get it discounted or with coupons.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Honestly, that's a steal. Especially since the Crusader alone costs more than half of that
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Post by: lightfingers
Shame B&N doesnt ship to these parts.
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Post by: Dryaktylus
I could get it for € 25,99 in Germany. I... just don't need it as I have Escalation.
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Post by: GaroRobe
Looking at all the rumor engines, a lot more seem to point toward Echlisiarchy than Inquisition. The armor and book are ministorium priest related. As is the massive mace/holy relic? At the moment, the only thing that seems Inqusitiorial is the leg armor and the pistol, but the former could be something SoB.
In the past, have priests normally been included in Inqusitorial retinues?
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Post by: JoeRugby
“Taddeus 2 the tadening”
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Post by: KillerAngel
Conveniently enough, B&N is doing a 15% off sale today. Though unfortunately that puts it $1.04 under the free shipping threshold, but you can always pick up at the store if there is nothing else you need.
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Post by: The Power Cosmic
Looking at the board as a whole, I wouldn't be surprised if everything not on the bottom row was a single squad/diorama-type-thing like the Triumph of St. Katherine.
But please, anything Inquisition is welcome with open arms!
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Post by: lightfingers
and even those wont ship it to Belgium...
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
coherence. Know Sisters was a popular release, and they are getting a Palatine model. Maybe a couple priests and missionary models for when their 9th ed codex comes out?
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Post by: GaroRobe
Not my work, but worth sharing.
Mostly just theories, nothing 100% confirmed
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Post by: Overread
The Grand Alliance forums have convinced themselves that pirate vampires are potentially on the horizon. Granted this is a rumour that's been around ever since CA did the Vampire Pirate White Dwarf army in TW Warhammer.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Overread wrote:The Grand Alliance forums have convinced themselves that pirate vampires are potentially on the horizon. Granted this is a rumour that's been around ever since CA did the Vampire Pirate White Dwarf army in TW Warhammer.
It's been a thing since the Sartosan models way back when, to be honest.
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Post by: Overread
Yeah but its had a big uptick since there's been no vampire update for ages and only fragmentation/lost models.
Granted I suspect its more akin to how GW teases Exodites or Skaven with Airships - ideas to tempt people to convert using in-house models (eg exodites are clearly lizardmen monsters with eldar)
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Post by: Kanluwen
Eh. It always has just felt like the fanbase whips themselves into a frenzy off one or two tidbits and then it's nothing but sour grapes when there is no follow-up of their speculation.
Remember when Idoneth were literal "fishelves" from the speculation? Or Lumineth were angelelves?
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Post by: Overread
To be fair the Idoneth are sort of fish aelves.
Lumineth were angelic because, well, that's the only reference GW gave us. I still expect to see some winged creature/aelf from their faction as one of their temples and was surprised that they chose the bull instead of the winged version to go with first.
I'd be more shocked if the Shadow Aelves have no draconic influences; again its the only reference we have.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I hate to be a bummer, but the only Aelementari we know of that would be "angelic" are the Zenith...and that basically exists as individuals rather than temples. They're the 'angelic' ones we'd been hearing about per some fluff about an ambassador that the Shadowkin took hostage and tortured.
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Post by: GaroRobe
I am still kind of sad about all the rumors of Cthulu-elves, and then getting the Deepkin. Though, in defense of the rumor mongers, yes we did get Deep-elves. And there are some Cthulu-ian statues on the base of the Deepmare (and on the prow of the ship on the Kraken-eater)
Nothing would shock me more than getting Vampire Pirates. Sure, we had Sartosa, Dreadfleet, and the awesome Total War DLC, but unless I've missed some lore teases, nothing hints that's what we'll get. Sky-Goblins keep getting namedropped. Vampire pirates, not so much
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Post by: Coenus Scaldingus
Overread wrote:The Grand Alliance forums have convinced themselves that pirate vampires are potentially on the horizon. Granted this is a rumour that's been around ever since CA did the Vampire Pirate White Dwarf army in TW Warhammer.
I still don't understand how a Total War DLC, a game set in Warhammer Fantasy, has any connection to upcoming AoS miniatures. Especially since the fabled Vampirates would, at this stage, be released years after the DLC, so there is no combined marketing hype or whatever either. I could see GW decide to make a dedicated range for them within the Warhammer The Old World thingy coming years from now, to have another new faction that brings something novel to the existing setting, but the existence has nothing to do with their likelihood to show up in AoS. Could it happen? Sure. We've seen Cow-Elves now, everything is possible. Is it likely? Probably not. Not a single rumour that supposedly previews Vampirates could not already be explained by just being regular Vampires, possibly Flesh Eater Courts, or something else entirely (crab claw in the latter category). I'd love to see a dedicated Vampirate range (it's just a good aesthetic), but I sure as hell won't expect one until there is actual reason to believe so.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Overread wrote:The Grand Alliance forums have convinced themselves that pirate vampires are potentially on the horizon. Granted this is a rumour that's been around ever since CA did the Vampire Pirate White Dwarf army in TW Warhammer.
Overall, I think Vampires do need some love. Traditional ‘wet dead’ are currently missing in terms of AoSificsation.
And I think some of these do have a distinct nautical Undead feel. In terms of background, seafaring Undead do make sense, as one can’t see Nagash not taking umbrage at those naughty Idoneth nicking souls which rightfully belong to him. Because all your souls are belong to Nagash.
So I can understand the stance, and the enthusiasm for it. But then I’m genuinely terrible at guessing Rumour Engines!
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Post by: Wha-Mu-077
Please GW reveal anything i'm begging you that's like 30 unsolved images and there's like ten more coming until Christmas
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Post by: Arbitrator
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: Overread wrote:The Grand Alliance forums have convinced themselves that pirate vampires are potentially on the horizon. Granted this is a rumour that's been around ever since CA did the Vampire Pirate White Dwarf army in TW Warhammer.
I still don't understand how a Total War DLC, a game set in Warhammer Fantasy, has any connection to upcoming AoS miniatures.
I think it's because Vampirates is a pretty memey, over-the-top concept ("DUDE... WHAT IF... VAMPIRES... BUT THEY WERE PIRATES, DUDE!") and such things have been associated a lot with Age of Sigmar and it's more 'flanderised' concepts ("DUDE... WHAT IF... SLAYERS, BUT THEY WERE ON FIRE DUDE!") as well as making whole armies out of smaller units/concepts - even in TW:W the Vampire Coast is a bit thin on the ground in terms of units. I'm the last person who wants to see Vampirates anywhere near AoS, but people have a way of taking one line of lore and "100% CONFIRMED IT'S HAPPENING OMG GW CLEARLY TEASED US WITH THIS!!!"
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Post by: Not Online!!!
TBF the vampirates in fantasy were also allways over the top, but in a good kind of way unlike AOS lore...
Granted that is personal preference.
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Post by: Overread
Vampires are one of the AoS "its doing to happen one day" armies. They feature heavily in the lore and actually have a good portion of old models around (lumped into Legions of Nagash). I can see them doing the same they did for the other forces - a portion of the LoN models will split off to form a Soulblight army and get bolstered with new releases.
It's more a question of when rather than if.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
This is getting even more priest/scribe in here. Plastic priests and assistant?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Overread wrote:Vampires are one of the AoS "its doing to happen one day" armies. They feature heavily in the lore and actually have a good portion of old models around (lumped into Legions of Nagash). I can see them doing the same they did for the other forces - a portion of the LoN models will split off to form a Soulblight army and get bolstered with new releases.
It's more a question of when rather than if.
There’s also little reason they can’t do an army where many of the units are Vampires. In the Old World, they had to hide to varying degrees. AoS? Ain’t no-one oppressing Vampires in Shyish!
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Post by: lare2
I really hope they don't do vampirates. The idea is anathema to me. I really want new vamps though.
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Post by: bullyboy
I have a feeling that all these images will lead to a Xmas Day reveal that will solve the entire advent calendar clues.
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Post by: GaroRobe
It better. I'd be disappointed if they don't reveal at least the models they've been teasing, if nothing else. Some are most likely connected (hand holding book and yesterday's armor vent.)
I could see them doing a priest with a bunch of assistants. Maybe people carrying relics like Grimaldus, or even something like the Dark Apostle's alcoytes.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
bullyboy wrote:I have a feeling that all these images will lead to a Xmas Day reveal that will solve the entire advent calendar clues.
I have similar suspicions
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I am 100% behind a Priest/Ecclesiarchy unit/congregation.
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