terry wrote: it looks very familair, almost like they've shown a similair sword earlier. So based on that I would say it will be at least a unit
They did show a similar bit--and it tracks with the Ghyranite Warcry band. Interestingly they've been ramping up statements about "Aelves following Chaos" a bit more, so maybe that's what this is?
Soulblight/Vampires sounds about right. Don't know much about basket-hilt swords, but that grip doesn't seem like the kind of positioning you'd expect from someone wielding it elegantly, so that makes it less likely to be Slaanesh or (Chaos) Elves. Still entirely possible to be either of those, but to me it's more fitting the style of a brutally strong, undead nobility, or even a swashbuckler
There's something really off looking about that hand.
Is it a glove or a badly sculpted hand? The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.
Overread wrote: Gloved hand might explain its less than exact profile.
I guess. There are light striations on the back of the 'hand' (above the handguard) that remind me of nothing so much as the design for the Clayface villain in Young Justice.
Maybe its just the angle, but the base of the wrist seems too narrow, and the two visible 'fingers' look unfinished (or there is supposed to be webbing in between the first two fingers), and the other two shouldn't be so completely hidden by the guard.
Its just so very at odds with the sword itself, which seems like they went for a very authentic, almost real-world design.
Snrub wrote: The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.
It is historically accurate; putting a finger over a quillion apparently helps with point control and was often used for precise thrusting attacks. The hand does seem rather small compared to the sword, especially given GW's usual hand proportions (i.e. even more oversized than their weapons).
And indeed, I would expect several of the other previews to be for them too. About time they get some expansion in their small range (that so badly represents their AoS lore) too!
FEC are a very small range and heck from GW's point of view not that profitable either since almost their entire range is in the start collecting set. They've a few models outside of it, but not many and no real core troops and such. Plus with the ability to take over the normal monstrous unit limit in one army it means players have no real reason to want the other sets and can just keep getting SC stets.
I could see them getting an update with new models to not only flesh them out (pun intended), but also to give them more regular earning models for GW.
GaroRobe wrote: A new warcry or shadespire band. Otherwise, I don't think a hook hand would rely on a "large" piece of scenery (a log?) attached to it.
it could be a character, they give some of them scenic bases
I’m definitely thinking it’s a Zombie. There’s a pock mark just visible on the top part of the visible arm. And the highlighting strokes look odd, unless they’re for unhealthy skin.
Gods know the Zombie kit is in dire need of a redo - it may actually be the oldest kit still available for Fantasy.
Kanluwen wrote: Do we have literally any mention of Harkon in AoS?
You tell me. You'd know more about AoS then I.
I'm just shouting out what I'd like to see. Or are we not allowed to do that any more,
I thought there might be some mention of him that I've missed.
You're more than welcome to want to see him...but that feels like it would be more of an 'Old World' thing, and we're still something like 3-4 years out on that!
Kanluwen wrote: Do we have literally any mention of Harkon in AoS?
You tell me. You'd know more about AoS then I.
I'm just shouting out what I'd like to see. Or are we not allowed to do that any more,
I thought there might be some mention of him that I've missed.
You're more than welcome to want to see him...but that feels like it would be more of an 'Old World' thing, and we're still something like 3-4 years out on that!
I dunno. Normally, I'd agree. But we just had Eltharion come back as a spooky ghost armor. Gotrek came back fairly recently. And of any army, death seems to have the most returning models, since we have a lot of vampire and skeleton characters. Even Krell had a cameo in a book. (Makes you wonder why we don't see many chaos characters returning, since the survivors got elevated to godhood as the old world went ka-blamo)
Cronch wrote: Honestly, he was a throw-away character for a White Dwarf army list, i think they'd rather devise a new character to fill the role.
Ghaz was a throwaway character, as was Mad Dok Grotsnik, back in the dim and distant days of ‘Ere We Go. And it was a battle report that gave us Captain Tycho originally.
Cronch wrote: Honestly, he was a throw-away character for a White Dwarf army list, i think they'd rather devise a new character to fill the role.
Eh. A total warhammer 2 tie in makes a lot of sense to me.
Plus, while I think it's kind of sad (and helps make AoS still feel smaller and unfinished), the 'AOS' special characters that stick in the mind are Old Warhammer transfers.
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I'm definitely feeling the undead pirate vibe. This hand is a bit more defined than the sword hand, but still has the slightly blobby look and striations/obvious highlights that were on the previous one,
But I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't a Ghoul subfaction rather than vampire.
Cronch wrote: Honestly, he was a throw-away character for a White Dwarf army list, i think they'd rather devise a new character to fill the role.
Ghaz was a throwaway character, as was Mad Dok Grotsnik, back in the dim and distant days of ‘Ere We Go. And it was a battle report that gave us Captain Tycho originally.
Yes, back in RT and 2nd ed. This was a random barely-character from 2000s. He got even less impact on Warhammer than Chorfs, and their last real book was 5th edition in mid-90s. Bringing back Gotrek makes sense, he's an incredibly popular character and having him isekai'd into the Mortal Realms makes for a fun story. Since we know nothing or next to nothing about vampirate boy, bringing him "back" has low emotional impact on the audience and therefore is pointless.
Gotrek's stories were also rather neatly designed so that with two characters (Gotrek and Felix) you toured most of the Old World and saw a good chunk of it, all within one series.
On the one hand its adventure stories, on the other its a rough guide to a lot of the world and races.
I fully expect the AoS version to do likewise. Already he's met the Flesheaters/
Skin Wolves were pretty gangly, and the previewed Blood Bowl werewolf sculpt isn't particularly beefy. It's the lack of fur that makes me doubt it's a werewolf, though.
Feels like FEC, though I don't think it's a ghoul either.
Very interesting. Hopefully these last few rumours are actually linked and we get the reveal soon.
Shadox wrote: I would either say FEC or Kurnothi (or however they're called).
Kurnothi would be super exciting to me. Especially if this is a kind of 'werewolf' Aelf...it would be a return to form(no pun intended!) of the Alter Kindreds from the Wood Elves.
It feels like the first preview with that undead feel was like an eternity ago. Does anyone know how many months it usually takes for gw to reveal the actual models after the previews?
Cool to see more Death army stuff coming, that isn't spooky ghosts or skeletons.
The new crypt ghouls in shadespire looked better than the current ones, but only a couple actually looked like they thought they were knights. I feel like the whole army needs a reboot.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a horror-themed announcement made at the tail end of October to break the drought after many weeks of Necrons and Marines releases as a glimpse for what next year might hold for AoS players.
flaherty wrote: Wouldn't be surprised to see a horror-themed announcement made at the tail end of October to break the drought after many weeks of Necrons and Marines releases as a glimpse for what next year might hold for AoS players.
It isn't just that. Covid caused GW to shift the cow elves and giants way back, and GW hasn't announced anything further.
Once the giants have actually been out for a week or two, I'm sure there will be AoS news. Presumably these new 'pirate ghouls' or whatever they are.
Voss wrote: I can't actually see any base. Just 'tactical rock'
To me it reminds like some column or the handle of some kind of hammer/axe of an statue since it seems to be quite rectangular with the threaded shape.
The Kairic Acolytes already have a similar birdie (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120201063_KairicAcolytes03.jpg) - though they have a plastic kit and have been featured in Underworlds already, so it would likely be a new character or something for Warcry if it's them. Could well just be a regular vulture of course (if something so ordinary exists in AoS).
lightfingers wrote: You know this reminds me I would love a sprue of just random animals as pets for my characters. Anybody know of something like that?
Kairic Acolytes have a specific creature called a "Vulcharc".
This looks closer to the Beastclaw Raiders creature, since it has the 'necktie' of feathers. Vulcharc, weirdly, looks like a plucked turkey on its underbelly and neck.
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This might also just be something new, tying in to WarCry. I'd lean towards Ogors though.
My guess is it has something to do with the undead. Maybe if these really are nautical themed undead a vulture is taking place of the captain’s parrot?
On a side note, I agree with whomever said we needs some more AoS/Warcry/Underworlds previews. I’ve stopped checking Warcom more than once or twice a week because it has been essentially six weeks of nothing but Necrons and Marines.
I am hopeful for new plastic Zombies. Current ones were, and you can tell I’m sincere because I don’t tend to criticise kits, crap when they were first released, and are still crap now!
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I am hopeful for new plastic Zombies. Current ones were, and you can tell I’m sincere because I don’t tend to criticise kits, crap when they were first released, and are still crap now!
:O heresy sir! I cry out at thou! Heresy!
They may have hands larger than their torsos but I love those zombies.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I am hopeful for new plastic Zombies. Current ones were, and you can tell I’m sincere because I don’t tend to criticise kits, crap when they were first released, and are still crap now!
:O heresy sir! I cry out at thou! Heresy!
They may have hands larger than their torsos but I love those zombies.
lightfingers wrote: You know this reminds me I would love a sprue of just random animals as pets for my characters. Anybody know of something like that?
Prodos/Archon have a whole box of D&D styled animal companions (most with armour and items, and both fantasy and sci-fi build options).
I bought a Pathfinder set (made by Reaper I believe) as I needed a Mink.
They had a ferret so that’d do.
It had a cat, hawk, wolf and bat with I think.
They do loads of little animal sets..
Fayric wrote: Whatever the vulture is for, it looks like the "dynamic" piece you cut of to make the model look more balanced and sensible.
Ha. Yeah, there have been a lot of those lately.
I was browsing through a few kits yesterday looking for inspiration and thinking, 'I'd clip that, and that, and oh gods, what is that thing?'
Tail structure (scales) is certainly different from the current clawed fiend, but it does have the barbed ending. Would be useful for a Necromunda Khimerix too if it's the case.
Also wouldn't be surprised if it was just some completely new Warcry beasty.
Segersgia wrote: If I had to guess. I would say something related to Malerion and their shadow Aelves
Yeah, the big bit reminds me of the upcoming warcry shadow elf cloak.
My inner cynic is wondering if this isn't the first edge piece of Malerion himself, a false 'wing' or tail, and some sort of chained display.
I hope not, though. GW has managed to increase my hatred of centerpiece models with the last few, and I didn't think that was possible
Tyranid. But the chain is odd, so maybe a DE arena monster or something for warcry. We still have that crab claw rumor engine from months back, so maybe lots of deepsea nasties are on the way
Catchcan Devil as a pet for the new Catchcan range that the limited models were a preview for. Chained outside the commanders tent to keep others from Fragging the captain.
Theophony wrote: Catchcan Devil as a pet for the new Catchcan range that the limited models were a preview for. Chained outside the commanders tent to keep others from Fragging the captain.
The fluff was always about Commissars getting fragged, not the officers.
Theophony wrote: Catchcan Devil as a pet for the new Catchcan range that the limited models were a preview for. Chained outside the commanders tent to keep others from Fragging the captain.
The fluff was always about Commissars getting fragged, not the officers.
Yeah, that’s a hard what? Catachan Officers are Catachans; clan leaders and whatnot who grew up there and know all the tricks even better than the troops. Why would they suffer an exceptional rate of accidentally falling into pit traps or triggering deadfalls meant for the enemy? It’s not like they go blundering about like a stunned landshark, ignoring the sage advice of people who really know how to move in a jungle, and ignoring clearly marked warnings, is it?
It’s just those commissars that high command insists on dropping into dense terrain without a lick of training in anything except how to be an blundering bombast…
Kanluwen wrote: Warhammer Underworlds. Part of the lore we've been getting has had an insectoid race that dwelled within the Beastgrave.
so that could aslo mean aos, seeing how underworlds is in the same world
Yes but a lot less likely.
Underworlds is the perfect place for new unique races and factions.
New things like Centaur people (wolf riders being back in this setting) and so on..
The Kurnothi are the only "real" new things we got.
The gits on wolfback are actually hinted/mentioned in Gloomspite. The TLDR version is there's a big schism in the Gits past, where some turned to worshiping the Bad Moon and others the Evil Sun. The Bad Moon is venerated under the mountains and in the caverns and the like while Evil Sun is the Gits who are believed to be almost extinct by Sigmar and his followers, but supposedly are rampaging around the plains of Ghur(Realm of Beasts, which is where Beastgrave is set).
Most likely not. More likely than not it's an objective marker or something of that nature for Underworlds, which has Direchasm as its setting--which is itself a deeper bit of the Beastgrave.
Kanluwen wrote: Warhammer Underworlds. Part of the lore we've been getting has had an insectoid race that dwelled within the Beastgrave.
so that could aslo mean aos, seeing how underworlds is in the same world
those remind me of the centipede on the gloomspite gitz cave shaman's staff, the head is almost identical. AOS seems all but certain, but no idea whether it's a main release kit, underworlds/WHquest or something else entirely.
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And now that I think about it, the last rumor image pic look a liiiiitle bit like the talons on the lead mount for the goblin spider riders, and the chains make sense for a pet...dare I get my hopes up for a plastic forest goblin boss + giant cave-spider?
I'd buy the heck out of a forest goblin army.
As long as they don't go to heavy into the goblin/spider hybrids, like grot scuttling.
(Although there is precedent for it. Arachanork had a four eyed shaman, and the leader of the spider riders had multi eyed masks.)
Well the owl rumour engine is in the preview for this Saturday (for the Lumineth warband - which we pretty much knew anyway).
But there is a tiny bit more of the picture visible now on there, the arm part
I can't find the link to the page with all the rumor pics, but isn't the Hedonite Archer's arrow another rumor engine? The peacock feathery arrow looks familiar (I know the other peacock feather was tied to nurgle)
GaroRobe wrote: I can't find the link to the page with all the rumor pics, but isn't the Hedonite Archer's arrow another rumor engine? The peacock feathery arrow looks familiar (I know the other peacock feather was tied to nurgle)
What’s interesting is the claw didn’t match the Dread Pageant, I really thought it would be in there..
Only two claimed by today’s reveals.
Still, all the clawed hand things, and possibly the sword and other martial looking bits, could be one warband if it’s Vamps..
That’s near 10 in one go if so..
My biggest question, what were those Santa looking boots from 24/12 last year..
It’s bugging me..
Chain link style certainly looks similar.
My money is still on a Warcry beasty, the final shape of which could basically be anything. Possibly Manticore-esque (wings, pointy tail), possibly far weirder.
I'm definitely getting more "sail" vibes than wing vibes from the pic. Also, that skull looks kind of dated, like one of the old skulls you'd get in an orc boy kit.
Hmm, my first thought was 'sails', too, but they seem to have quite similar 'finger' joints and creases like big Morathi's wings have? Given the damage and chains etc, I'd bet on a chaos/destruction/death mount or Warcry beastie
Seneca wrote: I am calling it now, that are pieces of Fulgrim
No!! There is a skull and the skull is a mark of hated Khorne!!
Yes, most of the Slaanesh deamon range and Hellstriders have skulls
trapped in their standards but still...
every skull on a slaamesh standard is a skull denied to Korner, which means the standards are mocking khorne; pretty perfect for slaanesh IMO
besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if khorne is secretly a Slaanesh worshippers. I mean he has an excessive need for skulls and violence and Slaanesh is after all the god of excess
See, the lack of "fleshy" joints and tattered nature of joints makes me think it's not a living creature (esp. since the sail/wing seems to be set up vertically, something no monster except greater demons and Morathi do) so either an undead construct or maybe building? Sail would make sense in that regard.
ooh, the chains hindering a dragon or sth from flight sounds interesting, together with the other rumour engine pic with the chain + tail - could be another diorama-style centerpiece model like Bonereaper Dude or Triumph of St. Katherine ... (but then a chained monster would also be a neat gimmick for the Warcry catacombs setting?!)
I would lean towards organic wings except for the pose, we can see from the freehanging skull that the plane of the wing is completely vertical, which would be very rare on a creature.
I'm also now positive, from the way that the wings look, together with the Skulls, chains and rings attached, that this is Bel'Akor.
Which makes me wonder, if this is indeed the case, what would he be released for? AoS or 40k.
I would guess AoS, since he is a much bigger player in that setting, and has a better backstory in that world. I would however not be miffed if it is related to a 40k release.
An open wing is popular with GW these days for making winged models look even bigger. And Belkor is very under-size now that the greater demons are all sized up!
Apparently he did play a large role in defending the Eightpoints from Lady Olynder...and we don't really have a "Daemons" army in AoS. We just have them in their respective battletomes.
I was also gonna suggest Be'lakor, and that was before I was reminded the old model has skulls hanging in chains from his wings. He really deserves a new kit.
Overread wrote: An open wing is popular with GW these days for making winged models look even bigger. And Belkor is very under-size now that the greater demons are all sized up!
be'lakor has been undersized since the release of the plastic deamon prince kit
Pretty confident it’s a chaos model at the very least.
The attachment point from the skull to the chain is the typical chaos star point.
Considering how close it is to Be’lakor, I’d say he’s finally getting a new model.
The wing/chain/skull may have some similarities to Be'lakor, but the previously previewed barbed tail(?) is nothing like what his previous design has. Could be a new design, could be two separate kits, could just be a new Chaos creature that also likes adorning its wings with skulls.
Would be interesting to see a new design for him, though I feel there isn't much to improve on the old one. Just grabbed a metal version from ebay a few months ago in fact, since it's such a nice classic sculpt.
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: The wing/chain/skull may have some similarities to Be'lakor, but the previously previewed barbed tail(?) is nothing like what his previous design has.
He also wasn't nailed to a rock! The chains do seem to be the same style in both images. Could be something stupid like he now has a pet demon chained to the rock on his base.
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: The wing/chain/skull may have some similarities to Be'lakor, but the previously previewed barbed tail(?) is nothing like what his previous design has.
He also wasn't nailed to a rock! The chains do seem to be the same style in both images. Could be something stupid like he now has a pet demon chained to the rock on his base.
We have not ever gotten the "Embailors" or their Namarti Huntsman helpers. They're Idoneth that are a bit more feral and savage. They're the ones who capture and break the creatures that the Idoneth use as mounts. The description pointed towards more brutalish designs and aesthetics.
We have not ever gotten the "Embailors" or their Namarti Huntsman helpers. They're Idoneth that are a bit more feral and savage. They're the ones who capture and break the creatures that the Idoneth use as mounts. The description pointed towards more brutalish designs and aesthetics.
We do have that crab claw rumor engine... Fish elves?
We have not ever gotten the "Embailors" or their Namarti Huntsman helpers. They're Idoneth that are a bit more feral and savage. They're the ones who capture and break the creatures that the Idoneth use as mounts. The description pointed towards more brutalish designs and aesthetics.
We do have that crab claw rumor engine... Fish elves?
It would be more like elves with warbeasts than fish elves.
The Embailors use a kind of 'mindmagic' on the creatures that the Idoneth utilize(which is, fluffwise, why all the mounts have blinders on--it took awhile for them to realize it worked best with the eyes blinded) to keep them from eating the Idoneth. There's a few creatures mentioned that could fit the bill for a crab-claw.
We have not ever gotten the "Embailors" or their Namarti Huntsman helpers. They're Idoneth that are a bit more feral and savage. They're the ones who capture and break the creatures that the Idoneth use as mounts. The description pointed towards more brutalish designs and aesthetics.
We do have that crab claw rumor engine... Fish elves?
I say it's vampires. The serrated tip is one thing, but the bit that fixes it to the shaft reminds me a lot of one of the spears from the plastic skeletons of old. I could just see GW go back an emulate that design for a new undead model.
It looks literally nothing like Chaos, especially 40K one. Chaos weapons tend to be well crafted, warped and mutated, and more often than not feature stars or god icons. Something this thing is complete opposite of.
Though it feels like Blood Bowl stuff on second though for some reason, IMO.
Destruction umbrella faction, fantasy.
Leaning more Ogre than Orc (it looks too big, honestly if the giant hadn't already happened, I would have guessed that)
Voss wrote: Destruction umbrella faction, fantasy.
Leaning more Ogre than Orc (it looks too big, honestly if the giant hadn't already happened, I would have guessed that)
Very much Ogre-esque, but what exactly? Only figure with a club that could do with an update (i.e. still in Finecast) is the Hunter, and for the him I wouldn't expect that much metal (more teeth, stone, whatever).
Maybe super-versatile plastic Maneater kit with a massive amount of customization options..? Very unlikely, but hey, a man can dream.
The sculpt detail on those bent nails? That to me suggests a scale above Ogre - because I can’t imagine a smaller scaled sculpt surviving packaging and shipping?
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: Very much Ogre-esque, but what exactly? Only figure with a club that could do with an update (i.e. still in Finecast) is the Hunter, and for the him I wouldn't expect that much metal (more teeth, stone, whatever).
Maybe super-versatile plastic Maneater kit with a massive amount of customization options..? Very unlikely, but hey, a man can dream.
They can really give any ogre a club. Just having a decent Butcher would be nice.
Or some new entries.
The sculpt detail on those bent nails? That to me suggests a scale above Ogre - because I can’t imagine a smaller scaled sculpt surviving packaging and shipping?
After Lumineth and Idoneth doodahs and swirl, I am convinced GW decided that practicality can be ignored and make bits as thin as possible by the material.
That being said, it's clearly Ogor-Neth, the new aelf-ogor alliance unit
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: Very much Ogre-esque, but what exactly? Only figure with a club that could do with an update (i.e. still in Finecast) is the Hunter, and for the him I wouldn't expect that much metal (more teeth, stone, whatever).
Maybe super-versatile plastic Maneater kit with a massive amount of customization options..? Very unlikely, but hey, a man can dream.
They can really give any ogre a club. Just having a decent Butcher would be nice.
Or some new entries.
They could, but I wouldn't expect them for a few units - a Butcher for example would more likely be armed with a cleaver, bone saw or meat tenderizer. A big spikey club; less fitting. I'd also rule out Gorgers or Yhetees, even if both could do with new kits. Which doesn't leave too many kits in the present range.
Alternative option: Ogre ally for Warcry. Because almost any kit could be something for Warcry.
If we have new Ogre miniatures in the pipeline, wouldn't they have released them back when they updated the book? A man can hope, but I don't think this will be some fatties tbh
No, because that’s almost the point of these campaign books. A way to throw out lots of models outside of book release.
These books could arguably be right in the middle of the two battletomes too (as wasn’t it a while back when the last came? They might not have had this ready then also)
LiftForSwift wrote: If we have new Ogre miniatures in the pipeline, wouldn't they have released them back when they updated the book? A man can hope, but I don't think this will be some fatties tbh
the book is already a year old by now, so they can get new models in boxsets and/or during campaigns(and we are now at the start of a campaign series called broken realms)
Design seems to be a Sigmarite design. I know people don't want more Stormcast, but I'd be 100% okay with it being a new thing for the Vanguard Chamber. For hunters and marksmen, they tend to not have anything outwardly huntery.
Are these even arrows? They have some kind of rounded nub at the end instead of a notch. Can't think of anything else they could be, tho, and none of the other Sigmarine projectiles make any sense, either, sooo ...
Seems likely to be sigmarines but I can hope that is a CoS priest’s quiver of thunderbolts. Or something.
Unrelated I note the design of the apparent fletching is both lightning and a (twin tailed) comet, which is neat.
Dunno, this looks nothing like existing ranged stormcast weapons. They use either crossbows (which this obviously is not) or ring pulled arrows. This looks like you draw it by central pin, suggesting normal sized hand, not stormcast glove. Why would Stormcast use worse variant of already existing design?
Far too long. Look at vanguard stormcast quivers, real crossbow bolts are very short and the models so far had realistic looking, square bolt cases. It's a bow, which incidentally means vanguard is out because they like crossbow-ish weapons.
I agree these don't look like arrows or bolts. The fletchings are all wrong and they lack a notch. My guess (for what that's worth) is a female stormcast javalin thrower.
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Still going with arrows of some kind. Even the best GW models with sculpted fletching tend to be very 2D. The very bottom of each seems to have a nocking point on it, but seeing as how it's not y'know...a huge model it's filled in plastic.
Personal hope against hope is that it's a new type of Vanguard hero that gets a Gryph-Hound bond ala the Castellant and Veritant.
Zhrukal wrote:I agree these don't look like arrows or bolts. The fletchings are all wrong and they lack a notch. My guess (for what that's worth) is a female stormcast javalin thrower.
The part in the top appears to be a plume (or hair) of some sort; I can't imagine these things being big enough to be javelins (or ballista bolts) - almost certainly just (weird) arrows.
Voss wrote:Yeah. Quiver of 'arrows' for sigmarines, sadly.
Puzzled by the fairly poor fletching shaped like lightning and comets, though. Metal fletching is just... Odd.
Well, the new Escher archers also have metal fletching. And the Sigmarine Judicators have no fletching, no nock, just a weird ring that supposedly is practical in some way or another. Besides, we now have Elves with triple-stringed bows - if realism in weapon design ever was of any concern in Warhammer, that ship has sailed, sunk, and gotten new life as a piece of Idoneth scenery.
In short, I think I'd have to agree with the below:
MobileSuitRandom wrote:Are these even arrows? They have some kind of rounded nub at the end instead of a notch. Can't think of anything else they could be, tho, and none of the other Sigmarine projectiles make any sense, either, sooo ...
Just because they don't seem sensible arrows, does in no way indicate that they won't be arrows. The aforementioned plume does suggest they will have a quiver on the back, rather than the waist as the Judicators do.
I wonder if the unit will get special ammunition, a la Deathwatch. "This arrow has unique fletching, so it causes lightning to strike whatever it hits."
GaroRobe wrote: I wonder if the unit will get special ammunition, a la Deathwatch. "This arrow has unique fletching, so it causes lightning to strike whatever it hits."
Or it's no different to, say, the Melusai and Namarti Reavers. The fletching on those isn't as good as it should be but we're talking about plastic here.
GaroRobe wrote: I wonder if the unit will get special ammunition, a la Deathwatch. "This arrow has unique fletching, so it causes lightning to strike whatever it hits."
Or it's no different to, say, the Melusai and Namarti Reavers. The fletching on those isn't as good as it should be but we're talking about plastic here.
The main issues I see with this fletching is purely a design choice; it has little to do with material/manufacturing limitations. Plastic figures have been able to have reasonable three-dimensional three-feathered fletching for decades, with recent versions increasingly realistic. If GW prefers to instead make arrows with metal, two-flighted twin-tailed comet-shaped fletching, that's down to them.
The broken/bent nail and metals look very similar to the recently-teased club, so guessing they're both from the same faction. Looks very 'Destruction' to me, rather than Skaven or Chaos.
grahamdbailey wrote: The broken/bent nail and metals look very similar to the recently-teased club, so guessing they're both from the same faction. Looks very 'Destruction' to me, rather than Skaven or Chaos.
I'm going to go with Cawdor. It doesn't look super Necromunda-y, but Cawdor models all have random nails jutting out. Could be part of their eventual expansion
Eh. Its not completely outside the realm of possibility, but it looks like its made from fantasy scrap metal, not 40k scrap metal.
Especially the nails. They wouldn't look out of place in a barn built anywhere from 8th to 19th century, but they would look out of place in the 40k underhive.
Edit: well, after taking a close look at the Cawdor gang, I may well be wrong. There are some severely retro bits on some of those weapons, especially the crossbow and polearms. I was thinking of far more scavenged buzz saws and similar than is actually the case.
What hinting was there for "undead pirates"? Must have missed this.
I know it's a thing people always put up whenever something vaguely water-y or not well maintained shows up but nothing has panned out as of yet.
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Eldarain wrote: A bolt thrower as a Cities release would be nice as a sign that book might not be a one and done dumping ground for legacy sculpts.
So, with the events of Broken Realms: Morathi? We've got some room to do both. There's definitely a lot of room to grow...and yes, Bolt Throwers are mentioned. Just like they were in the Lumineth book in fact!
I’m definitely hoping for Wet Dead to get some love.
We’ve Wafty Dead (Nighthaunt), Dusty Dead (Ossiarchs), but no update to Zombies and their ilk. I also hope for some kind of Flesh Golem (perhaps that hefty looking club?)
Kanluwen wrote: What hinting was there for "undead pirates"? Must have missed this.
The saturday reveal countdown timer teasers... but looking again I changed my mind, more likely those are Slaanesh mortals or Shadow elves or something.
Yeah, I also see bitemarks... And 2 long bitemarks on the wrist can only mean Vampires! Right?
Bite marks or slash marks.
I mean what can cause those:
Vampires - Zombies - Witch Aelves - Chaos of various creeds - a very dainty orruk - an ogre sampling the produce before committing it to the pot.
Theophony wrote: Looks like gills on the hand to me, next round of Fish aelves.
They do a bit, but...
all of the absurd anatomy I've seen stuck on hands over the years (its a thing, I don't know why, and don't want to), gills seem a stupid new low.
If it is fish elfs with wrist gills, Teclis is an even bigger idiot than I thought.
Theophony wrote: Looks like gills on the hand to me, next round of Fish aelves.
They do a bit, but...
all of the absurd anatomy I've seen stuck on hands over the years (its a thing, I don't know why, and don't want to), gills seem a stupid new low.
If it is fish elfs with wrist gills, Teclis is an even bigger idiot than I thought.
The sword doesn’t fit the Idoneth design language at all, so I think you’re safe there.