Marshal Loss wrote:

this could be the backside of the one with the book under the arm

Looks like a ministorum conclave/advisors. Would make sense as it would update unit entries in both the guard and sisters book in one fell swoop.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Not my work, but worth sharing.
Mostly just theories, nothing 100% confirmed

Thanks for posting that here.

I'm very curious about that March Underworlds warband and I agree with the connection they made with all the fancy swords.

I'm hoping it's the Umbraneth finally, the silhouette sure looks like and Elf to me, but I doubt we'd get another DoK set so soon..

 Red Viper wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Not my work, but worth sharing.
Mostly just theories, nothing 100% confirmed

Thanks for posting that here.

I'm very curious about that March Underworlds warband and I agree with the connection they made with all the fancy swords.

I'm hoping it's the Umbraneth finally, the silhouette sure looks like and Elf to me, but I doubt we'd get another DoK set so soon..

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

Excited for whatever the reveals turn out to be. And whatever that unknown Warband is.
I think that would be a perfect place to do Vampire Pirates, like many of the unique interesting warbands they’ve done so far, they don’t have to lead to anything army wise.
Just a few nice models someone wanted to sculpt getting a use I guess..

The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

 Overread wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

Ah yeah sorry. I always forget about the two from the beastgrave box, even though beastmen are my favourite

I do hope there are some undead in the pipeline soon. They only have like, 3 factions, Bonereapers, Nighthuant and Flesh eaters. and one of those is just a faction made from 3 kits+a finecast model.
Death needs some love put into it

 Red Viper wrote:

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

Where did the name "Umbraneth" start from, out of curiosity? They're called "Shadowkin". I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Also, have you read the bit about Ven Brecht? His bloodline has "fallen to depravity and barbarism" after accepting the Soulblight Curse to survive the Age of Chaos.
That story with the creature you're referring to? It's pretty clearly meant to be a vampire of some kind.

I'm pretty confident that many of the rumour engines show flesheaters.



Number 5 and 6 are quite ambiguous, I give you that, but 5 could be a musician and 6 is kinda close to the Abhorent from last year, could be kurnothi though. 7 and 8 could be a new corpse cart.

 Overread wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

Wolfriders, at least, were hinted at in the Gloomspite Gitz book. There was some huge gobbo schism between followers of The Bad Moon and The Evil Sun. It's resulted in two distinctive breeds of gobbos--the Bad Moon worshipers(Gloomspite Gitz and the Spiderfangs) and the Evil Sun worshipers(of which the wolf riders were hinted at being part of).

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

Where did the name "Umbraneth" start from, out of curiosity? They're called "Shadowkin". I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Also, have you read the bit about Ven Brecht? His bloodline has "fallen to depravity and barbarism" after accepting the Soulblight Curse to survive the Age of Chaos.
That story with the creature you're referring to? It's pretty clearly meant to be a vampire of some kind.

There was a section of a WarCom article shared around a while back that had the word Umbraneth in it, which I believe turned out to be faked.

Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Legend has it that when the Khainite Shadowstalker's AoS rules were revealed, the article originally had Umbraneth listed instead of Daughters of Khaine.

It was quickly changed to the DoK though.

EDIT: Also, the full name could end up as Umbraneth Shadowkin or something. Like the Idoneth Deepkin and the Lumineth Realm-Lord...kin. You get the idea

 LiftForSwift wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Yeah. Such nonsense.

It wouldn't have even been a good idea had they done it from the start. Then again they also switched the normal rumor engine from thumbnail image to "generating image" image recently as if they're afraid the tiny picture is good enough for people not to click to see the higher resolution one.

 Red Viper wrote:
Legend has it that when the Khainite Shadowstalker's AoS rules were revealed, the article originally had Umbraneth listed instead of Daughters of Khaine.

It was quickly changed to the DoK though.

EDIT: Also, the full name could end up as Umbraneth Shadowkin or something. Like the Idoneth Deepkin and the Lumineth Realm-Lord...kin. You get the idea

Assuming it's the only article I can find a reference to? It had no mention of Umbraneth that I can recall. That's why I'm so confused about it. Only place I can see mentioning it is a lone sprues and brews article. Scrolling through the Twitters, the first mention is on October 22nd at 7:19am by Sprues and Brews...of an article that was on October 21st.

Interestingly we had two posts with the name "Umbraneth" here on Dakka in the AoS N&R thread...on the 21st at 7 something pm and in reply to that. Then nothing until today.

 Geifer wrote:

 LiftForSwift wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Yeah. Such nonsense.

It wouldn't have even been a good idea had they done it from the start. Then again they also switched the normal rumor engine from thumbnail image to "generating image" image recently as if they're afraid the tiny picture is good enough for people not to click to see the higher resolution one.

It's because people were able to dig the images out of the page media info before they ever got posted.

This is the image that circulated, with the claim that the article was uploaded with Umbraneth and then changed. But I’ve seen mention that it was confirmed to be faked, by whoever faked it, but nothing firsthand to confirm either way.

Yep, that's the image I was able to find too--only on Sprues and Brews though. Didn't even see it mentioned on Reddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/jfobdo/shadow_aelves_name_accidentally_leaked_in_a_now/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYs6uh-_0mQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShWG84XvoQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zVVUwkBCVQ

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/4941

https://spikeybits.com/2020/10/rumors-gw-accidently-reveals-next-aos-army-aelves.html

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2020/10/new-aelven-faction-coming-shadow-aelves.html

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=1900

Not trying to be a dick, I just saw it discussed a few places and I don't even follow the rumors that closely. Maybe google and youtube just have me figured out

EDIT: Also, just because it was all over some rumor sites, doesn't mean it's not fake. Who knows

Not clicking Natfka, Spikeybits, or the Youtubes--but the Last Alliance post is from the 22nd of October and the Reddit post is a whole month after the article in question on Warhammer Community. The War of Sigmar one seems to be the 22nd as well.

Are we REALLY saying that there was a whole day worth of that article being up that nobody caught the name Umbraneth?

Edit note: there's a mention of it on the 21st on Last Alliance and that same picture linked.

Here's the whole problem I'm having with it: why was this image not all over the place?

The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

 Red Viper wrote:
The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

The original bit you linked goes to the 22nd. But yeah, as I noted in my edit, it got mentioned on the 21st with that image. Seemingly five or six hours after the article went up at 9:41am Eastern.

But again: this is where the big problem keeps coming for me. Nobody linked it here? We had one person mention it on the 22nd--the day it hit the blogosphere--and then it was basically unmentioned until you brought it up today.

Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

Hell, I just found out I'm the person who linked the article here on Dakka!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:
The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

The original bit you linked goes to the 22nd. But yeah, as I noted in my edit, it got mentioned on the 21st with that image. Seemingly five or six hours after the article went up.

But again: this is where the big problem keeps coming for me. Nobody linked it here? We had one person mention it on the 22nd--the day it hit the blogosphere--and then it was basically unmentioned until you brought it up today.

Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

This is the post I saw about it being faked. Hardly definitive, but it’s just the one image of it going round, I imagine more people would have seen it were it real.
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=467422

 Kanluwen wrote:


Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

Haha, no worries. It's good to take rumors with some salt.

I didn't think it was that strange, and the places I saw it mentioned... only a couple of comments on reddit questioned it's authenticity.

With Slaanesh breaking free and Morathi's shenanigans, I've only very recently begun to follow rumors again. I've been waiting for Malerion and I think the Broken Realms is getting there

EDIT:

 ImAGeek wrote:

This is the post I saw about it being faked. Hardly definitive, but it’s just the one image of it going round, I imagine more people would have seen it were it real.
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=467422

Cheers, thanks for posting that. It definitely pushes me more towards doubting it.

I've been waiting for Malerion since the Shadowkin got namedropped in the Fyreslayers book alongside their "Shroudling Lords". They've been one of the most frustrating things to wait on and it definitely has been also one of the most faked/trolled things. Hence the salt.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I've been waiting for Malerion since the Shadowkin got namedropped in the Fyreslayers book alongside their "Shroudling Lords". They've been one of the most frustrating things to wait on and it definitely has been also one of the most faked/trolled things. Hence the salt.

Yeah I was a Dark Elf player from 6th through 8th. Converted my stuff to Twilight Kin for KoW since, no regrets.

I haven't bought any AoS stuff.... just waiting for Malerion. DoK tempted me, but I don't like what Morathi is up to. Lumineth tempted me, but I want to see the Tyrion half. Forever waiting..

Seems like the trolls know we're waiting too. It'd be funny if it's faked, but it still got their name right. It's a good guess at least

Remember fellows, Kanluwen is a pathological contrarian, as evidenced in part by his continued insistence on both of these being fakes, despite both being very obviously real




Put me in the "Definitely legit" column of whatever rumour you're discussing if he says it's inauthentic.

 Shadox wrote:
I'm pretty confident that many of the rumour engines show flesheaters.



Number 5 and 6 are quite ambiguous, I give you that, but 5 could be a musician and 6 is kinda close to the Abhorent from last year, could be kurnothi though. 7 and 8 could be a new corpse cart.

IDK, could be, im gonna hold out a little bit.
I mean, These guys where originally one of the factions that where just cobbled together, like night haunt. then with the recent tome they committed to them being a full army, with a tome.
So my hope is that it true.

Of those pictures.
1 & 3 are hands of the same model potentially, feral ghoul like features so maybe..
4 & 8 could be part of anything, they just get grouped in to similar things.
2 & 7 could be part of something together, yes a corpse cart, or just anything. With the nailed hand on 7, it fits several themes not just corpse cart though.

The flute hands are very fat, more like a nurture fellow than a ghoul personally. But could be anyone’s.
And the foot the same, personally I don’t think it fits any of this stuff.

FEC maybe fit two-four of these 8, maybe. (Corpse cart isn’t there’s anyway even if it was, not sure if they’d have a bird etc).
It’d be the first four for them if any I’d say..


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 Shadox wrote:
I'm pretty confident that many of the rumour engines show flesheaters.



Number 5 and 6 are quite ambiguous, I give you that, but 5 could be a musician and 6 is kinda close to the Abhorent from last year, could be kurnothi though. 7 and 8 could be a new corpse cart.

The hook thingy reminds me off Manfred,

Not Online!!! wrote:
The hook thingy reminds me off Manfred,

It's a very similar weapon to one used in the Ghoul Warhammer Underworlds warband, although more angular.

It seems likely the various "Death" rumours belong to different factions/releases, but it's difficult to say how many belong to either in order to give a clear picture of how big any of those releases might be. We also haven't seen enough of non-Ossiarch/Nighthaunt Death in AoS to know exactly what design direction they might take for those ranges. The aforementioned Underworld Ghouls for example have a few metal weapons, while the original plastics only have crude bone weaponry I think. The Archregent even has some worn but decorated armour; something not yet seen elsewhere. Who knows what vampires or zombies/zombie-esque constructs might be like for AoS at this stage...

sword and halberd are a bit too disciplined for the flesh eaters though.

Not Online!!! wrote:
sword and halberd are a bit too disciplined for the flesh eaters though.

I mean we already seen them with Halberds and The Arch-Regent had a broken sword


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zamerion wrote:

That's an oddly simple weapon for AoS.

zamerion wrote:

It would be a bit odd given that GW recently rolled them together but could it be an expansion of Ironweld Arsenal?

Alternatively, is there anything from LotR or the Old World that would match that aesthetic?

Yeah, kind of more like a tool than an (ornate) weapon, AoS Order weapon crew might make sense. Or some crafts- or mining-based Warcry warband? Interesting.

zamerion wrote:

Obviously... Vampire Hunters.

Vovin wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Spoiler:

Obviously... Vampire Hunters.

It does have that vibe tbh. It reminds me of weapons on Mordheim minis.

Well it’s not a dwarf hand/arm.
Not an elf like weapon/glove.
Something human..?

Inquisitorial Nail-slammer for 40k?

Is there a non dwarfish hammer wielder in the Middle Earth? Or maybe some player/referee for the Blood Bowl?

War hammers are only "dwarvish" in classic fantasy tropes. In reality they are a very good weapon for dealing with heavy armour foes. The image looks more clean human than board dwarf or lithe aelf. It is also rather plain of details and thus could well be something for Middle Earth since AoS and 40K tend to lean closer toward more high detail/gaudy designs.

Yea but real warhammers were also 3-6 lbs not the 25-40 you see in these pictures lol

Size of the hammer 100% rules it out as LotR unless they've done a sudden and drastic deviation from established design.

I feel like it’s 40K. Possibly Necromunda. Looks like a version of a modern sledgehammer, makes me think of Genestealer Cults though the hand doesn’t strike it to me. But it does feel kinda low tier 40K to me.

It's weird to see a hammer in Warhammer that isn't half the size of the wielder.

It kind of reminds me of hammers some GSC models use, but nothing else fits. That's not their style of glove

It’s definitely AoS, and almost certainly human. It’s a solid, non-fancy design = human.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I feel like it’s 40K. Possibly Necromunda. Looks like a version of a modern sledgehammer, makes me think of Genestealer Cults though the hand doesn’t strike it to me. But it does feel kinda low tier 40K to me.

I actually was thinking Genestealer Cults as a potential too. It feels a lot like a non-Power version of the sledges the Aberrants have...the main difference being that theirs have larger metal hafts with the whole 'wrapped grip' look and the power weapon pack+cabling.

I'm thinking more Age of Sigmar though. The gloves feel a bit 'off' for GSC or Orlocks as there's no armor square/rectangle or knuckle guards so I'd lean a bit more towards something Freeguild/Devoted of Sigmar related.

Vampires, crows, all revealed:

Good catch there, I suspect you're right

Crow... or Raven?

 Jack Flask wrote:

zamerion wrote:

It would be a bit odd given that GW recently rolled them together but could it be an expansion of Ironweld Arsenal?

Alternatively, is there anything from LotR or the Old World that would match that aesthetic?

Are Middle-earth things every part of the Rumour Engines? Old World is way too far of, at least based on the normal time between preview and release (can be long, but not multiple years).

Could this actually be normal AoS humans? I'm weirdly enthusiastic about this preview. Just for the hope offered.

Could be some kind of cavalry hammer, explaining the relative small/reasonable size.

Would be cool if its a new harlequins piece.
I mean, the practical joke hammer works for Harley Quinn, right

Yeah, looks like the White Wolf Hammer things right?

A new AoS box of Sigmarite Vampire Hunters vs. Vampires would be really cool. We have seen a lot of rumors lately that look kind of fantasy human/ fantasy witch hunter like. The AoS Vamps could be related to the Underworlds band that comes out in March also.

I don’t know the context for the vampire hunters thing, but that would be where the hammer would go to me; great for putting stakes in.

My guess is that the ones with an AoS vibe are related to a reimagined version of Mordheim where you would find various types of warbands, incl. vampires, undead, witch hunters.

It would make sense as next stand-alone board games, after Silver Towers and Blackstone Fortress. Haven't they said something about alternating the settings between AoS and 40K?

Anyway, that is my 2 cents. This said, I might be wrong, it would not be the first time.

I feel like warcry is their mordheim replacement.
So far, both games have their 2 skirmish spin offs, Underworlds and Warcry for AOS. I dont think they will want to start another.

Mendi Warrior wrote:My guess is that the ones with an AoS vibe are related to a reimagined version of Mordheim where you would find various types of warbands, incl. vampires, undead, witch hunters.

It would make sense as next stand-alone board games, after Silver Towers and Blackstone Fortress. Haven't they said something about alternating the settings between AoS and 40K?

Anyway, that is my 2 cents. This said, I might be wrong, it would not be the first time.

That would be fantastic. Mordheim had a ton of character and even a stand alone game with a similar vibe would be awesome.

hotsauceman1 wrote:I feel like warcry is their mordheim replacement.
So far, both games have their 2 skirmish spin offs, Underworlds and Warcry for AOS. I dont think they will want to start another.

It could be, which as much as I enjoy Warcry, saddens me. Mordheim has a very different vibe (though I feel Warcry had a pretty dark vibe when it was just Chaos Cultists.....adding the extra factions was cool, but definitely changed the narrative), and I would to see it recaptured.

Also to be fair Underworlds isn't really a skirmish game. It's more of a Board/Card Game with minis (and a lot of fun!).

I agree and don't see another spin off, but Mendi made a good point that it could be a stand-alone boxed game along the lines of Warhammer Quest or Blackstone Fortress.

WarCry has somewhat lost its initial Chais focus. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, as it opens the game up.

But I hope the other factions are represented more as “special forces”. Groups of warriors one wouldn’t see in a pitched battle, but instead are carefully used to avoid pitched battles occurring.

I believe that many images that they have shown are related to warcry bands, which could be more related to things of the dead



Chains, halberds, and now upper forgefloors..

It's not, but it makes me think of Sisters of Sigmar

I wonder if they would be so bold as to have Mordheim literally come back. Like the actual original town from the Old World emerges on one of the Realms somewhere, in the state it was when the Comet hit… except frozen in time or something, so you have these eerie “statues” of thousands of people all either partying hard or staring up at the sky.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
I wonder if they would be so bold as to have Mordheim literally come back. Like the actual original town from the Old World emerges on one of the Realms somewhere, in the state it was when the Comet hit… except frozen in time or something, so you have these eerie “statues” of thousands of people all either partying hard or staring up at the sky.

they can always just have it set in the old world, no need to bring it to the mortal realms

That’s definitely an undead banner. Well made but aged and rotted to rags is kind of their signature.

Yep. Tattered grandeur, because I wanted to sound poncey!

Banner makes it less likely to be a warband, more likely an army.

"Raise the white flag high and show them what we're made of!"

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
It's not, but it makes me think of Sisters of Sigmar

You never know. Sigmar is still around in Age of Sigmar (strangely enough ) and he has a sub-faction of human cheerleaders that, like the other Order humans, have yet to receive dedicated AoS models to replace their Warhammer Fantasy incarnations. Plus, GW releases female models more frequently these days.

Considering GW went a little easier on the proportions and humongous weapons on Sisters of battle, that hammer may not be the worst fit. At least I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.

I'd buy the heck out of new Sisters of Sigmar, but even the original minis had Sigmarite comets plastered all over their hammers (wouldn't mind if they didn't, tho ...)

I'd love the banner to be for Flesh Eater Courts. The whole army (although I love many of the models) needs an overhaul. Give them bone or broken bits of armor. Dull or chipped weapons. Tattered banners. Make them actually look like they think they're nobles and knights and kings. If the bone pipe is actually for FEC, then the army is going in the right direction. Shame that the Underworlds team didn't get enough unique models, though the one with bone armor is a step in the right direction

Undead Pirate Squig signal flag.

I don't tend to buy GW models these days, but if they bring out an Underworlds set with a Witch Hunter Vs a Vampire, I think it would be difficult for me to resist.

If they released a new set of zombies lead by Necromancers or a Vampire Lord with an army of human thralls, I would be equally...... enthralled?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s definitely AoS, and almost certainly human. It’s a solid, non-fancy design = human.

This is the only human release for AOS so far, I wouldn't call him "no frills", esp. the hammer. However the glove does kinda fit.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
That’s definitely an undead banner. Well made but aged and rotted to rags is kind of their signature.

Trying to remember the last time GW put out a featureless banner, though (no emblems or raised details).
This is great for anyone who can freehand it, but...

Mr.Giggles wrote:
I don't tend to buy GW models these days, but if they bring out an Underworlds set with a Witch Hunter Vs a Vampire, I think it would be difficult for me to resist.

If they released a new set of zombies lead by Necromancers or a Vampire Lord with an army of human thralls, I would be equally...... enthralled?

I'm honestly dubious they can do anything so... normal, without an AoS 'twist'

Voss wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
That’s definitely an undead banner. Well made but aged and rotted to rags is kind of their signature.

Trying to remember the last time GW put out a featureless banner, though (no emblems or raised details).
This is great for anyone who can freehand it, but...

Wouldn’t be the first time that they showed the reverse or other odd angle of the mini for the rumour image. Or they could be making up a really nice set of multi-colour waterslide transfers a la the Imperial Knights heraldry.

Voss wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
That’s definitely an undead banner. Well made but aged and rotted to rags is kind of their signature.

Trying to remember the last time GW put out a featureless banner, though (no emblems or raised details).
This is great for anyone who can freehand it, but...

It's very like the banner for the skeletons set, which also is featureless so its been a while.

The Elf releases(Eternal Guard/Wildwood Rangers, Wild Riders/Sisters of the Thorn plus the Dark Elf Warriors) are the last ones I can definitively think of as getting blank banners.

It would be weird to see a one-sided banner though...that might be flayed flesh instead of cloth.

an elaborate power maul...
Tell me SoB players, is that weapon an option`?

A Priest's mace?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
A Priest's mace?

Good spot, would tie in with the frateris rumor?

Not Online!!! wrote:
an elaborate power maul...
Tell me SoB players, is that weapon an option`?

You can give a retributor sergeant a power maul. Very different look though.

I could see this being a sisters weapon but it’s either a special character or some kind of elite unit just on the scale. Maybe connected with the 1st image. I still stand by that was Fallout 4 style armour for sisters and maybe this suggests they’d be armed with maces? Maybe a more tanky unit than Repentia or Penitent engines.

Crusaders with options would be my hope.

How do those rivets get in the corner?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
How do those rivets get in the corner?

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.

Probably too much to hope for Arbites. Not that it matches their style anyway


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If it is for the Echlisiarchy(?), you think it'd have some form of "I", like the Retributor's one has

That's just how the power packs look on power weapons, the fact it bears a resemblance to the seal of the Adeptus Ministorum is just a coincidence

I get more of a Skitarii vibe from that maul.

I bet it goes with the model in this pic

My money is more on a return of the female Inquisitor model:

The bionic power armoured leg is similar in design to her armour (though the knee is a different design, but the foot matches), and the maul is similar in shape.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
I bet it goes with the model in this pic

I doubt it. That looks like it is the back side of book guy from day 2.

Redone lady inquisitor is a possibility, maybe an ordo mallets character to go with greyfax's heretics and Kyra's xenos. At that point, I would like to see some Male inquisitors in plastic though, oddly enough. Some more imperial guard female characters to go with the psyker would be kinda nice. Lady-officer of the fleet or astropath?

I would love if these weren't characters at all and part of some sort of Inquisition or Ecclesiarchy warband/unit or something.

I'm pretty bored with GW saying they support the Inquisition by releasing a named character in plastic every three years. Same with Guard for that matter.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I would love if these weren't characters at all and part of some sort of Inquisition or Ecclesiarchy warband/unit or something.

I'm pretty bored with GW saying they support the Inquisition by releasing a named character in plastic every three years. Same with Guard for that matter.

OK, tie all these rumor pics together and we got vampire inquisitor with goulish henchmen and possibly zombie-guardsmen

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
I bet it goes with the model in this pic

I doubt it. That looks like it is the back side of book guy from day 2.

And if this armor dude does get a mace, it'll probably be the super ornate Echlisiachy one we saw near the beginning, compared to the less ornate rumor from yesterday. Actually forgot that the blackstone fortress priest has a mace, though it doesn't look like the rumored one

Day 19 looks like the same mini as the hammer

That could be any of: Skitarii Alpha/princeps, Sigmarite Witch Hunter, Ordo Hereticus Witch Hunter, or gun squig. How to decide?

That arm plus the hammer absolutely screams vampire hunter. Looking forward to being disappointed.

 DaveC wrote:
Day 19 looks like the same mini as the hammer

I'm betting AOS on that one. Like a crossbow.

Chikout wrote:
That arm plus the hammer absolutely screams vampire hunter. Looking forward to being disappointed.

One of the things to note is that Sigmar has effectively his own 'Inquisition' called "The Order of Azyr". It has elves, dwarves, humans, and Stormcast within it.


The elf assassin there is a member of the Order of Azyr. It would be an interesting development for the Devoted of Sigmar subfaction to evolve into the Order of Azyr.

Perhaps its finally a big update of humans for AoS - they are one faction that needs a big update to their line and have really suffered a lot (Bretonnia is gone and Empire is mostly shattered)

Definitely AoS, and definitely the way GW design crossbows for AoS.

Order of Azyr is a cool concept, but I feel it's distinct enough from Devoted of Sigmar for both to co-exist. It's not very sporting to keep dropping these predictions on Warcry, but if Order of Azyr does come to pass in miniature form, I'd hope it's more of a warband sized matter compared to a full on army.

I'm hoping that hand and ranged weapon's stock belong to a human.
We really don't have any more average good guy human types.

Which is a really weird thing for me to say as I'm usually more than happy to dial the fantasy past 11.

Vampires and vampire hunters (via Order of Azyr as others have mentioned) would be a cool thing. Tie them to the Cities as well ?

Perhaps a new Underworld warband? Easy way to test the waters.

Vampire vs Vampire Hunters box for something would make me nut


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Although sadly i imagine it will be years before we get a reveal of anything

I'm starting to think that they're mixing both Inquisitor/Ecclesiarchy stuff *and* AoS witch hunter(s) to confuse.

The plainer hammer and crossbow (?) with the almost S-shaped firing mechanism looks would be ace for a Fantasy dude.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Definitely AoS, and definitely the way GW design crossbows for AoS.

Order of Azyr is a cool concept, but I feel it's distinct enough from Devoted of Sigmar for both to co-exist. It's not very sporting to keep dropping these predictions on Warcry, but if Order of Azyr does come to pass in miniature form, I'd hope it's more of a warband sized matter compared to a full on army.

Honestly, Order of Azyr isn't even something that works as 'warband sized'. They are individual agents, acting with the authority of Sigmar himself.

Them getting added to Cities of Sigmar with the Devoted keyword would be aces now that Warrior Priests got removed. Order of Azyr inquisitors/agents would be an interesting concept to explore as Cities of Sigmar oriented characters since we have yet to see any Cities of Sigmar specific characters. The list is still kind of a mess with regards to who helps who and what unlocks what, but getting Devoted Aelf, Duardin, and Human generals/retinue options as Order of Azyr would go a long way towards making it feel more AoS than just Old World++.

Ah, that makes more sense. Somehow misunderstood your comment initially

Wonder if that quiver is related to them. Not sure how well fancy arrows (quarrels?) work for a crossbow, but hey, its fantasy

I think the fantasy vampire/witch hunters (whatever they are) would also be a Warcry faction and not Underworlds as we have seen this seasons roadmap and all the war bands are pretty accounted for. Could be for the next season I suppose, but it’s not too often we see rumors with lead times of a year, though it does happen occasionally.

I'd be surprised if they put this much marketing behind Underworld. Not that its a bad game, its just not the mainstream main studio focus game.


Even Warcry, at this stage, getting that much marketing would be a surprise, though I fully expect to now see most factions get one warband in the game (with variations on how they translate over into the main game - already the DoK have a team that's more elite in style).


So I'd be expecting something mainstudio which means core AoS armies if there's stuff there for AoS. Of course there's a lot of old-world style gothic tech and designs in 40K so it can muddy the waters and some things that might appear old might be fancy futuristic tech.

Witch hunter warband for warcry. Or better yet a black stone fortress type game with witch hunters and all sorts of bad things.

 Theophony wrote:
Witch hunter warband for warcry. Or better yet a black stone fortress type game with witch hunters and all sorts of bad things.

I think it's exactly the latter. A dungeon crypt type game with vampire hunters vs undead etc. The next BSF series.

I’d be up for that!

Yeah, I would be pretty over the moon the see a Warhammer Quest style game focused on Witch/Vampire Hunters versus Undead/Vamps. That pistol picture from August 25th really seems to match up with the aesthetic of today's rumor and the hammer.

On a separate note there GW is releasing A LOT of rumor pictures in a short period of time. I'm wondering what they means for their preview and release schedule (though admittedly a lot of these look to be from the same minis). Maybe we will get some sort of reveal Christmas day or on New Years? I'm guessing the full Slaanesh reveal on Christmas maybe? It just seems like there must be a lot that got pushed back since we still have quite a few rumors from the first half of the year.

 Sabotage! wrote:
Yeah, I would be pretty over the moon the see a Warhammer Quest style game focused on Witch/Vampire Hunters versus Undead/Vamps. That pistol picture from August 25th really seems to match up with the aesthetic of today's rumor and the hammer.

On a separate note there GW is releasing A LOT of rumor pictures in a short period of time. I'm wondering what they means for their preview and release schedule (though admittedly a lot of these look to be from the same minis). Maybe we will get some sort of reveal Christmas day or on New Years? I'm guessing the full Slaanesh reveal on Christmas maybe? It just seems like there must be a lot that got pushed back since we still have quite a few rumors from the first half of the year.

Watch them reveal all those on Christmas 2021

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor.

 Sabotage! wrote:
Yeah, I would be pretty over the moon the see a Warhammer Quest style game focused on Witch/Vampire Hunters versus Undead/Vamps. That pistol picture from August 25th really seems to match up with the aesthetic of today's rumor and the hammer.

On a separate note there GW is releasing A LOT of rumor pictures in a short period of time. I'm wondering what they means for their preview and release schedule (though admittedly a lot of these look to be from the same minis). Maybe we will get some sort of reveal Christmas day or on New Years? I'm guessing the full Slaanesh reveal on Christmas maybe? It just seems like there must be a lot that got pushed back since we still have quite a few rumors from the first half of the year.

I have my doubts that the advent version of the rumor engine follows the same rules as the normal one. The purpose of the latter, by and large, is to tease things outside the pre-release marketing window of three months that GW usually sticks to. Advent, obviously, is supposed to lead up to Christmas, and it would be very odd of GW not to reveal the teased models at or just after Christmas.

Even though the normal rumor engine and the advent rumor engine share the name and approach to publishing teasers, I don't think they interact with each other. One is seasonal that will be resolved shortly after the countdown is over, the other one keeps chucking on and doing what it's always been doing, just missing out on a few weeks while the seasonal one is active. If the last regular rumor engine picture were for a model that's still 6-9 months out, the advent version would afterwards still show off models whose reveal is impending and whose release will happen prior to the one from the regular rumor engine. That's my take anyway.

Side note, I certainly want that Slaanesh reveal for Christmas. And chocolate. And snow. But I won't hold it against GW if I only get the Slaanesh reveal.

Where is today’s??

Hope they’re not caught up in the Christmas postponing Tier 4 governmental u-turn!

Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

Bretonnia rides again...

Brets confirmed, AoS is squatted!

 Geifer wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
Yeah, I would be pretty over the moon the see a Warhammer Quest style game focused on Witch/Vampire Hunters versus Undead/Vamps. That pistol picture from August 25th really seems to match up with the aesthetic of today's rumor and the hammer.

On a separate note there GW is releasing A LOT of rumor pictures in a short period of time. I'm wondering what they means for their preview and release schedule (though admittedly a lot of these look to be from the same minis). Maybe we will get some sort of reveal Christmas day or on New Years? I'm guessing the full Slaanesh reveal on Christmas maybe? It just seems like there must be a lot that got pushed back since we still have quite a few rumors from the first half of the year.

I have my doubts that the advent version of the rumor engine follows the same rules as the normal one. The purpose of the latter, by and large, is to tease things outside the pre-release marketing window of three months that GW usually sticks to. Advent, obviously, is supposed to lead up to Christmas, and it would be very odd of GW not to reveal the teased models at or just after Christmas.

Even though the normal rumor engine and the advent rumor engine share the name and approach to publishing teasers, I don't think they interact with each other. One is seasonal that will be resolved shortly after the countdown is over, the other one keeps chucking on and doing what it's always been doing, just missing out on a few weeks while the seasonal one is active. If the last regular rumor engine picture were for a model that's still 6-9 months out, the advent version would afterwards still show off models whose reveal is impending and whose release will happen prior to the one from the regular rumor engine. That's my take anyway.

Side note, I certainly want that Slaanesh reveal for Christmas. And chocolate. And snow. But I won't hold it against GW if I only get the Slaanesh reveal.

That is certainly how an advent calendar should work, at least in theory. It would be cool to get a Christmas day reveal of a bunch of stuff, though it does look like these advent rumors are from a relatively small number of kits.

Even though James Workshop does allow us to have Christmas Day off, we’ll still be showing off some new models on the big day. We’ll have a glimpse of some of the incredible miniatures that 2021 has in store – make sure that you don’t miss it!

zamerion wrote:
Even though James Workshop does allow us to have Christmas Day off, we’ll still be showing off some new models on the big day. We’ll have a glimpse of some of the incredible miniatures that 2021 has in store – make sure that you don’t miss it!

Nice find! Looking forward to it!

 Tastyfish wrote:
Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

Reminds me of the spike racks on Chaos Terminators, but with a fleur.
So... Battle Sister Terminators!

Cronch wrote:
Brets confirmed, AoS is squatted!

All my Warhammer related Christmases will have come at once!!!

I'd love to see some contemporary Bretonnians sculpts, even if it's just a small warband for Underworlds.

made me think of Repentia

Almost all of the metal spikes Sisters use have a Fleur-De-Lys on the end of them instead of just a pointy ending so I doubt It's them.

Really getting my hopes up with these very mundane realistic weapons. This could be good.

could be Lotr? don't know what else has any remotely realistic weapons in GW lineup ...

I wonder if it could be a return to something like Mordhiem through Warhammer Quest. Something to tide the "Old World" fans over whilst GW works on that game and to keep it in the marketing spotilght; without the demands of a full major game series.

zamerion wrote:

Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

zamerion wrote:

There was a hand bit on the old Empire Free Company box that held a similar dagger in exactly the same way.

Cronch wrote:
could be Lotr? don't know what else has any remotely realistic weapons in GW lineup ...

It happens occasionally. I want to say especially in Grand Alliance Death. The Underworlds two-handed sword skeleton has a pretty delicate blade. So do the latest Banshees. Outside of that I can think of Delaque daggers that are in stark contrast to GW's usual humongous weapons.

Not sure if it's specifically when GW wants to depict elegance or subterfuge or if occasionally sculptors get away with their fancies because nobody stops them, but it does happen.

Plus, the dagger has a skull. That's Warhammer, not Lord of the Rings.

 Overread wrote:
I wonder if it could be a return to something like Mordhiem through Warhammer Quest. Something to tide the "Old World" fans over whilst GW works on that game and to keep it in the marketing spotilght; without the demands of a full major game series.

I'd like that.

Edit: To specify, I'd like the latter. Mordheim can return as Mordheim and leave Warhammer Quest be its own, cool thing.

You know what would be a legit teaser but really annoying (and might even fit with some of these),

that 'return to the old worlds' fantasy thing they announced for somewhere in the far future

Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

 Tastyfish wrote:
Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

Sisters of Graveyard ?

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

This. No way are they going to have TOW models yet. They're probably still in the concept stages considering the announcement screamed "we need to head off Kings of War 3E."

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

GW has posted rumour engines thay went unsolved for years in the past so...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

I swear to God, someone had this exact conversation word for word a few months back. History repeats itself


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 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.

It is historically accurate; putting a finger over a quillion apparently helps with point control and was often used for precise thrusting attacks. The hand does seem rather small compared to the sword, especially given GW's usual hand proportions (i.e. even more oversized than their weapons).

Found it. Its close enough

Looks like a bayonet without the hole modeled for the barrel loop. One side of the guard curves toward the blade, the other goes perpendicular and appears to widen with a rounded shape (again, no hole, but not surprising since that would require an undercut)

Definitely two separate things here.

Could be free peoples or bretonian related AoS.

The other stuff hints toward a 40k retinue for either ministorum or hereticus.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

I swear to God, someone had this exact conversation word for word a few months back. History repeats itself


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 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.

It is historically accurate; putting a finger over a quillion apparently helps with point control and was often used for precise thrusting attacks. The hand does seem rather small compared to the sword, especially given GW's usual hand proportions (i.e. even more oversized than their weapons).

Found it. Its close enough

This.

It’s also something my Grandad, who was a Grocer taught me for cutting bread straight.

Basically, take your standard grip, then extend your index finger along the top of the blade.

How does it work? I dunno. BUT IT DOES!

Thanks, Grandad. Thrandad.

But on topic? It’s a grip I associate with a Duellists Main Gauche. Mainly there for parrying, but also for a sneaky stabbing.

I immediately thought of that conversation too

 Arbitrator wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

This. No way are they going to have TOW models yet. They're probably still in the concept stages considering the announcement screamed "we need to head off Kings of War 3E."

Also, on the old world chat, I don’t think it is at all for that.
But didn’t they preview some models when they announced it. One unit of cavalry or something?

I finally remembered where I saw that weapon design before. The Militarum Tempestus uses daggers pretty close to this one.

Danny76 wrote:

Also, on the old world chat, I don’t think it is at all for that.
But didn’t they preview some models when they announced it. One unit of cavalry or something?

They didn't show off any models or even renders. Just concept art for a new Kislev unit and then later an article about Bears.

Ah yeah that was it, art.
So long ago I forget these things..

Cronch wrote:Brets confirmed, AoS is squatted!

While I personally dislike AOS from every angle, I wouldn't wish it gone for those who DO like it. I'm living that "dream" right now and it's not a good one.

Carlovonsexron wrote:Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

There's nothing stopping GW from releasing some stuff that caters to both, especially since W:TOW is still in the AOS timeline.




My guess is it's either some new AOS stuff that is swappable or potentially as it looks a lot like the Mordheim Empire Duellist arm some reissues of WFB plastics that can pull double duty with AOS. I'd imagine it'd be in some sort of bundle box where the price can be jacked up without being too obvious.

Well, that's a Fell Bat for sure.

Could be a Vampire though.

But now almost certain we’ll be seeing a Vamp army for AoS now.

Would be a very small vampire, based on the brush strokes. But, admittedly, the foot is very different from the single clawed stump that the Duke's Harriers have, so I suppose it's not a sure thing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could be a Vampire though.

But now almost certain we’ll be seeing a Vamp army for AoS now.

it could still be for the underworlds warband

 Tim the Biovore wrote:


Well, that's a Fell Bat for sure.

Terradon?

Not with hands.

looks familiar (nurgling) sized to me,

so some sort of base decoration, possibly flesh eater courts related

Cronch wrote:
Not with hands.

That makes me happy, as I wouldnt want one with the lizardman underworlds team- I'm already a little afraid we wont get a saurus warrior in it.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Not with hands.

That makes me happy, as I wouldnt want one with the lizardman underworlds team- I'm already a little afraid we wont get a saurus warrior in it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the upcoming team is all Skinks. Once Ossiarchs and Idoneth are out, they've covered every AoS released that's not Cities of Sigmar and arguably Savage Orcs and Gutbuster, so they're probably looking at how they can milk different teams from the same faction. Having a smaller, more elite Saurus warband would be a good fit for that.

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:looks familiar (nurgling) sized to me,

so some sort of base decoration, possibly flesh eater courts related

Hadn't even considered that it might not be the unit itself, that's a strong possibility.





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 Arbitrator wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Not with hands.

That makes me happy, as I wouldnt want one with the lizardman underworlds team- I'm already a little afraid we wont get a saurus warrior in it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the upcoming team is all Skinks. Once Ossiarchs and Idoneth are out, they've covered every AoS released that's not Cities of Sigmar and arguably Savage Orcs and Gutbuster, so they're probably looking at how they can milk different teams from the same faction. Having a smaller, more elite Saurus warband would be a good fit for that.

That's what I'd expect too. They've already divided up other factions into multiple warbands, and two Seraphon warbands definitely works well with that approach

That's either a bat or some flying reptile

It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

It's a leg and a tail

 Arbitrator wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Not with hands.

That makes me happy, as I wouldnt want one with the lizardman underworlds team- I'm already a little afraid we wont get a saurus warrior in it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the upcoming team is all Skinks. Once Ossiarchs and Idoneth are out, they've covered every AoS released that's not Cities of Sigmar and arguably Savage Orcs and Gutbuster, so they're probably looking at how they can milk different teams from the same faction. Having a smaller, more elite Saurus warband would be a good fit for that.

It talks a bit about the Lizardmen team in the Direchasm rulebook - it sounds like mostly skinks and one Saurus.

I think it most likely corresponds to the batty looking foot that's standing on the ruined terrain. Batman!


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It's not fellbats, since the warhammer underworlds team already made models for them, and they both have only one claw on their feet.

But it could be for the vampire warband

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

It's a leg and a tail

Ohhhh! Now I see it! Cheers dude!

It's a swallow carrying a coconut.

If the saurus warband does only come with one saurus, that'll be a shame. Seeing an updated one will be cool, but I feel like a Kroxigor would have been a better "big guy", though may the skink priest would make that too unbalanced

That’s the whole reason I don’t think we will ever see a second seraphon warband now.
If it had been skinks with a krox, then you could have had an all Saurus band too.
But the mix, it makes me think they wouldn’t do another.. they aren’t stormcast after all..

 vim_the_good wrote:
It's a swallow carrying a coconut.

But what kind of swallow? African or European?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

It's a leg and a tail

Ohhhh! Now I see it! Cheers dude!

Had the exact same! Once you see it as the hand that's somehow either at the bottom of the wing, or weirdly reaching over it, that's all you can see until the exact situation is pointed out.


Anyway, certainly another sign for upcoming vampires. Possibly a decorative creature/familiar.

 LiftForSwift wrote:

 vim_the_good wrote:
It's a swallow carrying a coconut.

But what kind of swallow? African or European?

It's winter. All the European swallows are in Africa now.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

It's a leg and a tail

Yes leg. But I still wouldn’t say tail.
Then it’s a weird tail with wing membrane.
Perhaps that’s just a leg in front of a wing (with the hand part of the wing being one of the higher up notches of wing?)

Danny76 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It looks really odd, the more I consider it.

Normally, bat wings are a modified hand, with long, thin fingers and webbed digits.


But this seems to be an arm coming down over the top of the wing itself?

It's a leg and a tail

Yes leg. But I still wouldn’t say tail.
Then it’s a weird tail with wing membrane.
Perhaps that’s just a leg in front of a wing (with the hand part of the wing being one of the higher up notches of wing?)

The tail is abnormally long for a bat, but having wing membrane between the legs and tail is correct. You can also see the bumps of the vertebrae, which wouldn't be there if it were supposed to be one of the fingers (not that GW are strict adherents to anatomical correctness in bats, considering two of the three vargheist sculpts have fingers coming out the side of their forearms)

Yeah true. I can see that now.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 LiftForSwift wrote:

 vim_the_good wrote:
It's a swallow carrying a coconut.

But what kind of swallow? African or European?

It's winter. All the European swallows are in Africa now.

Not the ones waiting for Brexit

The feet don't look anything like the fell bat from the grymwatch kit.
So I'm gonna say it's probably not that.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The feet don't look anything like the fell bat from the grymwatch kit.
So I'm gonna say it's probably not that.

Those fellbat have weird feet. Its like one long talon with maybe a smaller secondary one. Hopefully, if they get a separate release, they'll look better

zamerion wrote:

oak leaf scale armour ? Looks like an armoured wight.. really interested to see if these turn out to be an army, a war band or a death themed quest game [unlikely as there would be more hints of different races for the adventurers].

Left hand looks to be metallic - but could be actual scales?

zamerion wrote:

That definitely looks like the Daedric armor that 7th Ed VC stuff sported...

Could be cavalry. Cloak covering the rider’s legs, scale on the horse’s rear leg.

Ah, great, now I'm hoping for plastic Blood Knights.

Modern Chaos Knights pretty pls?

The armour/cloth combination is pretty similar to the one on the recent Chaos Knights, but the latter have chain mail, not this rather distinct scale (?) armour ... I'd bet on some kind of Death cavalry, too. https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Start-Collecting-Slaves-To-Darkness-2019

Worth noting that one of the Varanguard sculpts has that style of scale armour barding, albeit not a 100% exact match. Could well be Chaos Knights getting a proper kit, or just something Chaos in general, but Death feels more likely from what else we've seen

"For Warhammer Age of Sigmar fans, you’ll see the next new battletome (and a bunch of incredible minis) drop in February. Trust us, this one’s a doozy – we’ll even give you a sneak peek on Christmas day!"

The 2021 article https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/23/an-update-on-warhammer-releases-in-2021/ makes me wonder if the vampirey looking rumours from the advent will be said army with battletome.

--Wrong topic--

Last one

Elf strangling a twig.

Racist elf strangling a Branch Squig

Life wizard. Probably human.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Elf strangling a twig.

I'll show ye to trick me, twiggy!

Could also be someone up a tree?

Some notdruid?

its a nurgle elf

terry wrote:
its a nurgle elf

A nurglelf

Probably a necromancer or a wizard for whatever that tree-zombie faction is

 GaroRobe wrote:
Probably a necromancer or a wizard for whatever that tree-zombie faction is

This is my guess also, doesn't look dainty enough to be a GW elf in my opinion.

Twig mimic pretending to be oppressed

Solved.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Probably a necromancer or a wizard for whatever that tree-zombie faction is

I do recall that the "Staff of Arboreonecromancy" was an artifact back in WHFB. It let you zombify woods terrain and attack people with undead trees.

So in other words...

Battletome: Shambleflesh Arboreonecromancers confirmed!

To no-one's suprise, not a single bloody thing from The Advent Calendar was previewed. Thanks Geedubs

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
To no-one's suprise, not a single bloody thing from The Advent Calendar was previewed. Thanks Geedubs

Isn't there another preview on New Years Day?

 Overread wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
To no-one's suprise, not a single bloody thing from The Advent Calendar was previewed. Thanks Geedubs

Isn't there another preview on New Years Day?

No

 MajorWesJanson wrote:





Solved.

So they're porting HALO weapons and Daedric Daggers from Skyrim in? Might as well at this point...

Well HALO didn't invent the twin-bladed katar and a daedric dagger doesn't look like that, so no.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well HALO didn't invent the twin-bladed katar and a daedric dagger doesn't look like that, so no.

Playful sarcasm, I figured that was evident.

 Overread wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
To no-one's suprise, not a single bloody thing from The Advent Calendar was previewed. Thanks Geedubs

Isn't there another preview on New Years Day?

I haven’t heard of one, though I’m sure they will do something as they usually have reveals at the “New Years Open” or whatever it is called at Warhammer World the weekend after New Years. Since that is obviously not happening I imagine we will see something on the 2nd. Hopefully something from those advent rumors, but who knows.

 Just Tony wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well HALO didn't invent the twin-bladed katar and a daedric dagger doesn't look like that, so no.

Playful sarcasm, I figured that was evident.

To soon. GW made a preveiw and the good people of dakka didnt get their wishlists confirmed, so better tone down the jokes in these troubbled times.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
To no-one's suprise, not a single bloody thing from The Advent Calendar was previewed. Thanks Geedubs

Isn't there another preview on New Years Day?

No

yes there is:
"On New Year’s Day, we’ll also have a sneaky peek at some of the incredible new models that are coming out in 2021."

- https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/27/this-week-in-warhammer-thievin-orks-and-a-look-into-the-new-year/

I'm really hoping we hear about the Kill Team Pariah Nexus tomorrow. My expectation is that it will be something similar to catacombs, with updated rules for 9th edition, and include a Flayer Kill team and Assault Intercessors, along with some more doors (blech).

But Kill Team is my favorite version of 40k lately, so I'll still get it. And hopefully we'll be gaming in store again by then.

 argonak wrote:
I'm really hoping we hear about the Kill Team Pariah Nexus tomorrow. My expectation is that it will be something similar to catacombs, with updated rules for 9th edition, and include a Flayer Kill team and Assault Intercessors, along with some more doors (blech).

But Kill Team is my favorite version of 40k lately, so I'll still get it. And hopefully we'll be gaming in store again by then.

I would also love to see something for Kill Team. The game desperately needs some support. I hope the update rules switch to 9th and clean up the damage phase. Even if they went with something like Mordheim had or the new Necromunda rules for wounding it would be way less cumbersome. As the game stands I'm not a huge fan because you end up with games that take forever because it takes forever to kill a model in cover, but the concept of the game is fantastic and it is the skirmish game I would most like to play.

Today’s the day!

Well they did say we will hear more on Kill Team in 2021..

I’d like it to be more than Christmas Day.

Info on Necromunda, Kill Team, new WHQuest, new faction for a main game etc.
And by info, I mean show me some models!

Offshoot crazy ideas would be Mordheim or another old game back (but I don’t think, even if they are redoing one, that we will see anything like that. Particularly so soon after talking about Old World further info. If they are just always talking about games far off and in planning stages, it’d seem a bit fob off ish).
Same I don’t think we will get more Old World info, we just had some so probably too soon for more - though I’d welcome it.

These two from the Advent rumours are AoS Slaanesh's palanquin

At the top of the palanquin

zamerion wrote:

and at the side

zamerion wrote:

I wonder if they will dip into any of the other deadly sins for characters.

Model is neat, but has some poor execution in areas. The Gluton himself is probably the worst model on the chariot. The strange tentacles don't look animated at all, and seem like afterthoughts. It's almost as if they planed on having slaves fanning him, or cleaning his mouth, holding wine goblets etc. but ran out of space so went with tacked on squid limbs instead. Same with his head, it looks like it was tampered with by comitee or something.

"He looks lovely, but he really ought to have a long gross tongue and horns, go ahead and make those happen."

That kind of feels like it happened because he looks like he was originally just a creepy AF fat man chilling out with a real sinister grin. Kind of too bad he needed all sorts of cliche features tacked on. You can tell because that tongue looks like it's super imposed over an image. It doesn't fit his mouth, face or teeth.

I really like all the entourage though, and the model itself is cool. It reminds me a lot of the coin master guy from the old Dogs of War army and the old Ogre kingdom model of the glutton king guy mashed up together unless my memory is jumbling things up.