2020 Rumour Engine thread.

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**Tastyfish**

Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

**Kanluwen**

Bretonnia rides again...

**Cronch**

Brets confirmed, AoS is squatted!

**Sabotage!**

Geifer wrote:
Sabotage! wrote:
Yeah, I would be pretty over the moon the see a Warhammer Quest style game focused on Witch/Vampire Hunters versus Undead/Vamps. That pistol picture from August 25th really seems to match up with the aesthetic of today's rumor and the hammer.

On a separate note there GW is releasing A LOT of rumor pictures in a short period of time. I'm wondering what they means for their preview and release schedule (though admittedly a lot of these look to be from the same minis). Maybe we will get some sort of reveal Christmas day or on New Years? I'm guessing the full Slaanesh reveal on Christmas maybe? It just seems like there must be a lot that got pushed back since we still have quite a few rumors from the first half of the year.

I have my doubts that the advent version of the rumor engine follows the same rules as the normal one. The purpose of the latter, by and large, is to tease things outside the pre-release marketing window of three months that GW usually sticks to. Advent, obviously, is supposed to lead up to Christmas, and it would be very odd of GW not to reveal the teased models at or just after Christmas.

Even though the normal rumor engine and the advent rumor engine share the name and approach to publishing teasers, I don't think they interact with each other. One is seasonal that will be resolved shortly after the countdown is over, the other one keeps chucking on and doing what it's always been doing, just missing out on a few weeks while the seasonal one is active. If the last regular rumor engine picture were for a model that's still 6-9 months out, the advent version would afterwards still show off models whose reveal is impending and whose release will happen prior to the one from the regular rumor engine. That's my take anyway.

Side note, I certainly want that Slaanesh reveal for Christmas. And chocolate. And snow. But I won't hold it against GW if I only get the Slaanesh reveal.

That is certainly how an advent calendar should work, at least in theory. It would be cool to get a Christmas day reveal of a bunch of stuff, though it does look like these advent rumors are from a relatively small number of kits.

**zamerion**

Even though James Workshop does allow us to have Christmas Day off, we’ll still be showing off some new models on the big day. We’ll have a glimpse of some of the incredible miniatures that 2021 has in store – make sure that you don’t miss it!

**Sabotage!**

zamerion wrote:
Even though James Workshop does allow us to have Christmas Day off, we’ll still be showing off some new models on the big day. We’ll have a glimpse of some of the incredible miniatures that 2021 has in store – make sure that you don’t miss it!

Nice find! Looking forward to it!

**Voss**

Tastyfish wrote:
Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

Reminds me of the spike racks on Chaos Terminators, but with a fleur.
So... Battle Sister Terminators!

**Scrub**

Cronch wrote:
Brets confirmed, AoS is squatted!

All my Warhammer related Christmases will have come at once!!!

I'd love to see some contemporary Bretonnians sculpts, even if it's just a small warband for Underworlds.

**GaroRobe**

made me think of Repentia

**Wha-Mu-077**

Almost all of the metal spikes Sisters use have a Fleur-De-Lys on the end of them instead of just a pointy ending so I doubt It's them.

**zamerion**

**Coenus Scaldingus**

Really getting my hopes up with these very mundane realistic weapons. This could be good.

**Cronch**

could be Lotr? don't know what else has any remotely realistic weapons in GW lineup ...

**Overread**

I wonder if it could be a return to something like Mordhiem through Warhammer Quest. Something to tide the "Old World" fans over whilst GW works on that game and to keep it in the marketing spotilght; without the demands of a full major game series.

**H.B.M.C.**

zamerion wrote:

Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

**hypnoticeris**

zamerion wrote:

There was a hand bit on the old Empire Free Company box that held a similar dagger in exactly the same way.

**Geifer**

Cronch wrote:
could be Lotr? don't know what else has any remotely realistic weapons in GW lineup ...

It happens occasionally. I want to say especially in Grand Alliance Death. The Underworlds two-handed sword skeleton has a pretty delicate blade. So do the latest Banshees. Outside of that I can think of Delaque daggers that are in stark contrast to GW's usual humongous weapons.

Not sure if it's specifically when GW wants to depict elegance or subterfuge or if occasionally sculptors get away with their fancies because nobody stops them, but it does happen.

Plus, the dagger has a skull. That's Warhammer, not Lord of the Rings.

Overread wrote:
I wonder if it could be a return to something like Mordhiem through Warhammer Quest. Something to tide the "Old World" fans over whilst GW works on that game and to keep it in the marketing spotilght; without the demands of a full major game series.

I'd like that.

Edit: To specify, I'd like the latter. Mordheim can return as Mordheim and leave Warhammer Quest be its own, cool thing.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

You know what would be a legit teaser but really annoying (and might even fit with some of these),

that 'return to the old worlds' fantasy thing they announced for somewhere in the far future

**Carlovonsexron**

Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

**Shadow Walker**

Tastyfish wrote:
Looks like we might be sticking with something sisters or graveyardy

Sisters of Graveyard ?

**Arbitrator**

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

This. No way are they going to have TOW models yet. They're probably still in the concept stages considering the announcement screamed "we need to head off Kings of War 3E."

**Wha-Mu-077**

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

GW has posted rumour engines thay went unsolved for years in the past so...

**Mr_Rose**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

**GaroRobe**

Mr_Rose wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

I swear to God, someone had this exact conversation word for word a few months back. History repeats itself

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Perfect Organism wrote:
Snrub wrote:
The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.

It is historically accurate; putting a finger over a quillion apparently helps with point control and was often used for precise thrusting attacks. The hand does seem rather small compared to the sword, especially given GW's usual hand proportions (i.e. even more oversized than their weapons).

Found it. Its close enough

**Quasistellar**

Looks like a bayonet without the hole modeled for the barrel loop. One side of the guard curves toward the blade, the other goes perpendicular and appears to widen with a rounded shape (again, no hole, but not surprising since that would require an undercut)

**Red Corsair**

Definitely two separate things here.

Could be free peoples or bretonian related AoS.

The other stuff hints toward a 40k retinue for either ministorum or hereticus.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

GaroRobe wrote:
Mr_Rose wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Nice to see the good use of trigger discipline, even on a sword.

I know you probably know this and are making a joke but putting a finger over the guard is a legitimate technique mentioned in Renaissance duellist’s training manuals and does actually increase point control. Even if you have to remember to pull it back when parrying lest you lose it.

I swear to God, someone had this exact conversation word for word a few months back. History repeats itself

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Perfect Organism wrote:
Snrub wrote:
The finger over the cross guard (historically accurate?) is not helping either.

It is historically accurate; putting a finger over a quillion apparently helps with point control and was often used for precise thrusting attacks. The hand does seem rather small compared to the sword, especially given GW's usual hand proportions (i.e. even more oversized than their weapons).

Found it. Its close enough

This.

It’s also something my Grandad, who was a Grocer taught me for cutting bread straight.

Basically, take your standard grip, then extend your index finger along the top of the blade.

How does it work? I dunno. BUT IT DOES!

Thanks, Grandad. Thrandad.

But on topic? It’s a grip I associate with a Duellists Main Gauche. Mainly there for parrying, but also for a sneaky stabbing.

**Danny76**

I immediately thought of that conversation too

Arbitrator wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
Isn't it still supposed to be years off?

This. No way are they going to have TOW models yet. They're probably still in the concept stages considering the announcement screamed "we need to head off Kings of War 3E."

Also, on the old world chat, I don’t think it is at all for that.
But didn’t they preview some models when they announced it. One unit of cavalry or something?

**Shadox**

I finally remembered where I saw that weapon design before. The Militarum Tempestus uses daggers pretty close to this one.

**Kanluwen**

Danny76 wrote:

Also, on the old world chat, I don’t think it is at all for that.
But didn’t they preview some models when they announced it. One unit of cavalry or something?

They didn't show off any models or even renders. Just concept art for a new Kislev unit and then later an article about Bears.