...out of the corner of your eye you notice your 2 year old nephew, in a christmas cookie induced mania, waddle wide-eyed and cackling toward your collection of Forgeworld Titans...
Uhlan wrote:...out of the corner of your eye you notice your 2 year old nephew, in a christmas cookie induced mania, waddle wide-eyed and cackling toward your collection of Forgeworld Titans...
Uhlan wrote:...out of the corner of your eye you notice your 2 year old nephew, in a christmas cookie induced mania, waddle wide-eyed and cackling toward your collection of Forgeworld Titans...
*sob*
Did they survive?
I don't think they can, two year olds are crazy destructive(Especially at Christmas parties when they turn the power to the tv off)
Knox wrote:That Sinking feeling when you miss place your only tank.
Your problem is that you had only one tank, not that it is missing.
BTW, this is Knox. He is one of the only people that have ever actually seen my Tau in person. We were the kings of our gaming group. However, then Knox moved to Singapore and now my bud pinoypower and I are the only ones left in the gaming group because everyone else quit once they couldn't watch Knox and I argue about long-forgotten games of 40k.
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Oh, if it's okay with the following people, I'd like to make them sort of mods for this thread: me, liquidjoshi, mr.merlin, Im2randomghgh, Lowmanjason, n0t_u, Squidmanlolz
OMG! My cat just said my dog's name to him! My cat walked by my dog and slurred 'Will' to my dog! My dog's name is wilbur. He also wakes up at 4:30 in the morning and says "GUYS! LEMME IN!" I kid you not. Every morning at 4:30, I let him into the room.
...When your animals start to talk.
...When you realize that your animals are smarter than most people you know in real life.
n0t_u, by mods I mean just people to take care of this thread while I'm gone. If any of you mods notice the thread getting a bit inappropriate or Off topic, just use your junior moderator powers to keep it on the rails.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:When you realize that you will never paint well
I had that feeling a year ago. Tbh, my models looked AWFUL then, im hidng them away nowadays so i dont have to look at them. But your skill will improve exponentially, if you keep at it. Im getting 8s and 9s in the gallery now
DaThing21 wrote:....you roll the scatter and realise the blast template is heading towards your army.
My Demolisher killed itself this way, there's nothing like having your friends laugh as you put a crater where you tank was before it took enemy fire...
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Fitness FTW!
I live in Canada. Guess which sport I play that I owe my fitness to?
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Fitness FTW!
I live in Canada. Guess which sport I play that I owe my fitness to?
Blap, you can have junior mod powers, too. Remember that this only applies to this thread, as I have no authority anywhere else. Also, keep painting and you'll get better. I used to be about a level 4 painter. Now I get about 7's, as I'm still somewhat in my adolescence of painting.
Im2randomghgh, my uncle and I are planning on hiking in canada sometime. How difficult are the hikes?
Guys! The sinking feeling banner V.3 is on the Dakka homepage right now! It's in the blog section!
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Fitness FTW!
I live in Canada. Guess which sport I play that I owe my fitness to?
Well if you're like myself and most other Canadians, Hockey. Not playing, but watching.
That sinking feeling when someone claims that your model (Belial) is not an official model, and won't allow me to play him. After searching online, looking through a catalog and talking to several people, he then proceeded to ask "Why didn't you just use the Termie Captain and some Assault Termie bitz?"
I'm finally finishing my tau lady pathfinder with a rail rifle! Let's hope that I get the face right this time. Last time, the forehead was too small, so when I sculpted the hair it covered almost the entire face of the miniature.
...When you've spent 7 hours on Greenstuffing (Beat that!!!)
killykavekommando wrote:I'm finally finishing my tau lady pathfinder with a rail rifle! Let's hope that I get the face right this time. Last time, the forehead was too small, so when I sculpted the hair it covered almost the entire face of the miniature.
...When you've spent 7 hours on Greenstuffing (Beat that!!!)
Gladly.
When your Cat jumps on your freshly painted Stormraven. Bits of plastic, paint and blood EVERYWHERE.
The Cat survived.
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Castiel wrote:When you realise this arrow to the knee stuff really isn't all that funny after all.
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Fitness FTW!
I live in Canada. Guess which sport I play that I owe my fitness to?
Is it hockey!?!?
OMG HOW DID YOU GUESS?
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killykavekommando wrote:
Im2randomghgh, my uncle and I are planning on hiking in canada sometime. How difficult are the hikes?
How am I supposed to answer that? My country is about 10,000,000 square km...
But generally, in Ontario they are fairly simply, with a few forested areas in the north a bit harder, and BC has some very challenging mountain trails. If you don't mind the cold, the Yukon has some of the best hiking in the world. Quebec is like ontario.
Saskatchewan and Manitoba, as well as the maritime provinces have little/no hiking.
Probably the best hiking in Canada though is in Alberta, in the towns Jasper and Banff.
Seriously, it probably isn't worth the trip unless it's in Alberta or BC.
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Jefffar wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
...When you realize that out of everyone on this forum, I may be one of the only one of hundred or so that can do a 10 mile up-hill hike, from what I have read from people's posts. I did that today, and it was fun to use my new NIKON.
Fitness FTW!
I live in Canada. Guess which sport I play that I owe my fitness to?
Well if you're like myself and most other Canadians, Hockey. Not playing, but watching.
You know that sinking feeling when you spend all night waiting for funds to transfer to you paypal account, and they finally do, but then the website doesn't immediately accept paypal and you have to email them
im2randomghgh wrote:That sinking feeling when Lelith Hesperax, alone, charges a FW squad and kills them all in one turn, alone.
Well. They're fire warriors, lol, what'd you expect
In ONE turn. No sweeping advance. She put out enough attacks and beat enough 4+ saves to kill 10 models...in one turn. Just about made her points back there.
When you accidentally go to the first page of this thread instead of the most recent and wonder where all those posts came from.
When you have nothing to do for the next 2 hours but none of the topics on here seem to pertain to anything your interested in talking or reading about.
dmthomas7 wrote:When you accidentally go to the first page of this thread instead of the most recent and wonder where all those posts came from.
When you have nothing to do for the next 2 hours but none of the topics on here seem to pertain to anything your interested in talking or reading about.
You know that sinking feeling when you're STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE YOUR MONEY FROM YOUR OPEN HANDS, BUT THEY DON'T ANSWER THEIR EMAIL GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
dmthomas7 wrote:When you accidentally go to the first page of this thread instead of the most recent and wonder where all those posts came from.
When you have nothing to do for the next 2 hours but none of the topics on here seem to pertain to anything your interested in talking or reading about.
Try cracked.com
Ahh much better.
. . . when you think you have discovered a new internet addiction
dmthomas7 wrote:When you accidentally go to the first page of this thread instead of the most recent and wonder where all those posts came from.
When you have nothing to do for the next 2 hours but none of the topics on here seem to pertain to anything your interested in talking or reading about.
Try cracked.com
Ahh much better.
. . . when you think you have discovered a new internet addiction
dmthomas7 wrote:When you accidentally go to the first page of this thread instead of the most recent and wonder where all those posts came from.
When you have nothing to do for the next 2 hours but none of the topics on here seem to pertain to anything your interested in talking or reading about.
Try cracked.com
Ahh much better.
. . . when you think you have discovered a new internet addiction
youtube, stumbleupon and more dakka.
Cracked.
Whenever I use stumbleupon, I always end up stumbling onto a cracked article and then just blow the afternoon reading stuff there.
When your Cat jumps on your freshly painted Stormraven. Bits of plastic, paint and blood EVERYWHERE.
The Cat survived.
I would be so heartbroken if that happened. Cant handle injured animals, its so unfair. Think that would make me hate the model that caused the incident.
When your Cat jumps on your freshly painted Stormraven. Bits of plastic, paint and blood EVERYWHERE.
The Cat survived.
I would be so heartbroken if that happened. Cant handle injured animals, its so unfair. Think that would make me hate the model that caused the incident.
Normally yes, but it IS a cat, the source of all evil on earth.
If my dog had a kroot rifle stuck in her paw (they're pointy), I might start using farsight enclaves
Going to mix thing up a bit,
You know that Relaxed Feeling when you model, prime, and undercoat a Devilfish for the first time. Time to chill...Nearly midnight...Nevermind...time to sleep...
Squidmanlolz wrote:Going to mix thing up a bit,
You know that Relaxed Feeling when you model, prime, and undercoat a Devilfish for the first time. Time to chill...Nearly midnight...Nevermind...time to sleep...
I love making tau vehicles, they're my favourite models. Also, doing a camo scheme is really easy and chills, especially with a sprayer.
Automatically Appended Next Post: That sinking feeling my opponent gets when he is mech heavy, and I field this:
Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Broadsides with shield generators, plasma rifles and hard wired multi tracker on the shas'ui
I DARE anyone to post something with an AV against that.
3 TL Railgun shots at BS4,
12D3 melta shots a turn at BS4
6D3 Melta shots a turn at BS5
Assault 2 Lascannon at BS5 ignore cover saves
in total, 30 wounds, most of which is T5, the rest of which is 2+
killykavekommando wrote:...When you spend a total of 10 hours sculpting a single mediocre mini. 3/4 of the way done!!!!
Sculpting?
Pictures!
I'm too noob and embarrassed by how lame it looks to post it on a thread as commonly seen as this one (23,000 views!). It should be on my Tau showcase within the next week, though. Expect a female pathfinder. I still can't sculpt legs, so I used leftover Fire Warrior ones. It's my first sculpt.
When your Cat jumps on your freshly painted Stormraven. Bits of plastic, paint and blood EVERYWHERE.
The Cat survived.
I would be so heartbroken if that happened. Cant handle injured animals, its so unfair. Think that would make me hate the model that caused the incident.
haha i jut remembered when our dog got some small pointy stone or whatever in her paw, and started whining and whimpering so loud you thought she'd die. My dad and sis hurried to her, and petted her and removed the object in her foot. But she wouldnt stop noising around and having everyone withing 100m feel sorry for "the poor injured animal", but when i picked up a sausage and walked up to my room, she stopped whining just like that, jumped to her feet and raced after me, or more likely, the sausage.
SO MUCH FOR POOR INJURED ANIMAL! lol. she just likes being pitied lol
I wonder what shell do if she gets seriously injured. hope that never happens.....
the exellent feeling when you just had a great modelling idea! I build an ork with an arrow in the knee; "I uz'd ta be an adventura like you, bud den I tooks an arro in da knee!" lol
When someone starts claiming that EVERYTHING has changed in FAQs.
Some of my favorites are that Iron Halos have been changed to a 3++, That Master crafted weapons reroll all hits and that my Stormraven no longer has an assault ramp. Plus he gets to give all of his vets JP for free and that he is allowed an AV 13 all around flyer with 3 sets of TL Lascannon.
...When you still haven't play COD MW3, and you've had the game for 4 days.
Im2randomghgh: I tried to take some snapshots of the pathfinder I sculpted, but I couldn't get the camera to focus without a light box. I'll get some pics of it up by Sunday.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:When someone starts claiming that EVERYTHING has changed in FAQs.
Some of my favorites are that Iron Halos have been changed to a 3++, That Master crafted weapons reroll all hits and that my Stormraven no longer has an assault ramp. Plus he gets to give all of his vets JP for free and that he is allowed an AV 13 all around flyer with 3 sets of TL Lascannon.
Which flyer would this be? Because it sounds like it could rage feth a manta to death.
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killykavekommando wrote:...When you still haven't play COD MW3, and you've had the game for 4 days.
Im2randomghgh: I tried to take some snapshots of the pathfinder I sculpted, but I couldn't get the camera to focus without a light box. I'll get some pics of it up by Sunday.
When you still haven't played Skyrim and you got it on Christmas.
When people tell you to start playing Minecraft, when you never want to ever.
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im2randomghgh wrote:
BlapBlapBlap wrote:When someone starts claiming that EVERYTHING has changed in FAQs.
Some of my favorites are that Iron Halos have been changed to a 3++, That Master crafted weapons reroll all hits and that my Stormraven no longer has an assault ramp. Plus he gets to give all of his vets JP for free and that he is allowed an AV 13 all around flyer with 3 sets of TL Lascannon.
Which flyer would this be? Because it sounds like it could rage feth a manta to death.
This would be the "Awesome-Crazy-Hope-He-Doesn't-Guess-It's-Fake Guppy".
When you realize that are playing a MW German army with a ton of Tigers, and all you brought were regular Shermans...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Or when you your opponent is playing Russians , and he puts a crap ton of Russians infantry on the board. Saying that this is just one of 3 of his combat companies.
Makarov wrote:When you realize that are playing a MW German army with a ton of Tigers, and all you brought were regular Shermans...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Or when you your opponent is playing Russians , and he puts a crap ton of Russians infantry on the board. Saying that this is just one of 3 of his combat companies.
im2randomghgh wrote:That sinking feeling when Lelith Hesperax, alone, charges a FW squad and kills them all in one turn, alone.
Well. They're fire warriors, lol, what'd you expect
In ONE turn. No sweeping advance. She put out enough attacks and beat enough 4+ saves to kill 10 models...in one turn. Just about made her points back there.
4+ saves? She ignores armour! Since when have FW had invulnerables?
@Im2randomghgh: I have a NIKON camera, so my images are clear regardless of macro settings or not. I also used a sweet magnifying soldering stand to further zoom the pics. I'll load the pics onto my Desert tau thread of the sculpted pathfinder. It's my first sculpt with many GW bits, so don't expect professional grade stuff.
...When you use your airborne company in a no-cover table ...When those airborne are up against Russian T-34s and I don't have anti-tank guns or flamethrowers because I was expecting Russian infantry. Thompson guns do nothing against armor.
...When people get excited about you sculpting.
When your Stormraven is somehow put into assault by a squad that is clearly out of assault range until the owner 'accidentally' knocks them down a hill.
When you mishap and your opponents places your Terminator Squad in the opposite corner of the board. Every single time I moved towards him, he ducked even more marines behind the Fortress of Redemption in the middle of the table.
When your opponent starts rolling dice in buildings and snatching up all the 1's before you can see them.
All of this in ONE MATCH.
Automatically Appended Next Post: When your one Orb of Despair scatters on top of your Archon and his court.
liquidjoshi wrote:Good news everyone(pony): We are in the Codex: Dakkadakka! I am editing us in right now as we speak. I guess that's a pretty awesome feeling... right?
The sinking feeling my opponent gets when he sees one manta unload 188 FW, and the other one disgorge 48 FW, and the rest of the space filled with XV9s and Hammerheads.
The sinking feeling my opponent gets when I unload 188 stealthsuits.
im2randomghgh wrote:The sinking feeling my opponent gets when he sees one manta unload 188 FW, and the other one disgorge 48 FW, and the rest of the space filled with XV9s and Hammerheads.
The sinking feeling my opponent gets when I unload 188 stealthsuits.
the sinking feeling as said FW are reduced to half within one turn.
liquidjoshi wrote:Good news everyone(pony): We are in the Codex: Dakkadakka! I am editing us in right now as we speak. I guess that's a pretty awesome feeling... right?
Special rules:
That sinking feeling- The soldiers in this squad suffer from a condition known as "The sinking". For every dice role they fail, add the difference in score of the actual dice roll and the roll required to pass to each of their attributes. The unit will also never flee for any reason.
liquidjoshi wrote:Good news everyone(pony): We are in the Codex: Dakkadakka! I am editing us in right now as we speak. I guess that's a pretty awesome feeling... right?
Special rules: That sinking feeling- The soldiers in this squad suffer from a condition known as "The sinking". For every dice role they fail, add the difference in score of the actual dice roll and the roll required to pass to each of their attributes. The unit will also never flee for any reason.
That sinking feeling when you realize each one of us costs 1500+ ork boyz and has the stat line of a grot.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you just ordered an american icon on the internet for an unbelievable price!
Although mine should have a non-era Woodland cover, which I'll use until I can get my greedy hands on a mitchell cover
I eat my Canadian symbols. (In more ways then one; I hunt, so I've eaten bear and moose)
That inexplicable proud feeling when you type canadian and your computer auto-corrects it to have a capital. Canadian
Samus_aran115 wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you just ordered an american icon on the internet for an unbelievable price!
Although mine should have a non-era Woodland cover, which I'll use until I can get my greedy hands on a mitchell cover
Been trying to get an affordable M1 helmet over the web for about a year now, particularly one with Vietnam era accessories, nothing museum quality, I want to finish my airsoft load-out with some cool set-pieces like that.
Samus_aran115 wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you just ordered an american icon on the internet for an unbelievable price!
Although mine should have a non-era Woodland cover, which I'll use until I can get my greedy hands on a mitchell cover
Been trying to get an affordable M1 helmet over the web for about a year now, particularly one with Vietnam era accessories, nothing museum quality, I want to finish my airsoft load-out with some cool set-pieces like that.
I play airsoft, too! My mates and I form 'Easy Company' or 'Those Short Guys with Big Guns.' It depends on who you ask. I'm known as amnesia in my squad because I forget pain? I don't know, actually. Maybe it's because I always get lost in the parking lot.
Samus_aran115 wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you just ordered an american icon on the internet for an unbelievable price!
Although mine should have a non-era Woodland cover, which I'll use until I can get my greedy hands on a mitchell cover
Been trying to get an affordable M1 helmet over the web for about a year now, particularly one with Vietnam era accessories, nothing museum quality, I want to finish my airsoft load-out with some cool set-pieces like that.
I play airsoft, too! My mates and I form 'Easy Company' or 'Those Short Guys with Big Guns.' It depends on who you ask. I'm known as amnesia in my squad because I forget pain? I don't know, actually. Maybe it's because I always get lost in the parking lot.
Is it just me, or does everyone in the sinking feeling squad play? Cuz I play too!
Me and my squad go hardcore, ghillie suits and silencers.
We have 6 guys, and we split into three teams: two of the teams are longrifle w/ ghillie and a guard, the third team is two faster-moving automatic weapons team who flank around and attack from the side.
I am a guard for rifle team two
We call ourselves ghost platoon, but everyone else calls us "campers"
Automatically Appended Next Post: When you realize that you've been programming one stupid flamethrower character into the early hours of the morning... and you have work tomorrow, Ugh!
When you realize that two of said characters can clear a large room with the same amount of effort as a full infantry squad... I'm not sure if 2 flamers=9 assault rifles?
Samus_aran115 wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you just ordered an american icon on the internet for an unbelievable price!
Although mine should have a non-era Woodland cover, which I'll use until I can get my greedy hands on a mitchell cover
Been trying to get an affordable M1 helmet over the web for about a year now, particularly one with Vietnam era accessories, nothing museum quality, I want to finish my airsoft load-out with some cool set-pieces like that.
I play airsoft, too! My mates and I form 'Easy Company' or 'Those Short Guys with Big Guns.' It depends on who you ask. I'm known as amnesia in my squad because I forget pain? I don't know, actually. Maybe it's because I always get lost in the parking lot.
Is it just me, or does everyone in the sinking feeling squad play? Cuz I play too!
Me and my squad go hardcore, ghillie suits and silencers.
We have 6 guys, and we split into three teams: two of the teams are longrifle w/ ghillie and a guard, the third team is two faster-moving automatic weapons team who flank around and attack from the side.
I am a guard for rifle team two
We call ourselves ghost platoon, but everyone else calls us "campers"
We actually win almost all the time
I'm auto rifle (ak-74 spetznaz!) flank guard and tactical planner. We actually have played against real army and marine corps teams and won a few times, surprisingly. My insane rate of fire, cold-hearted tactics, and dead-eye accuracy mixed with my unnamed team mate 1's ballsiness and unnamed teammate 2's stealthy killyness provide seriously devastating results. Then, there's team mate 4 (I'm # 3) who plays like a cop and uses my old Famas and hardly ever plays. When he does, he acts as squad sniper.
We all wear 1980's woodland camouflage, and I wear a WWII paratrooper bandolier/army belt. Team mate 2 wears a harness once used in Vietnam, while team mate 1 wears his jacket unbuttoned and his sleeves rolled up. Team mate 4 wears a full 1980's army outdoor kit, with the backpack filled with pellets.
Once again, we are known as Easy Company, those short guys with big guns, or just TFGs (those f**king guys)
im2randomghgh wrote:I love me some patriotism at the breakfast table
That sinking feeling when maple syrup is Canada's number 1 export...
NOT TRUE
Wheat is...:(
I think.
I think it's Coal or Wood. You guys are great at blowing the tops off mountains and deforesting millions of acres of unspoiled Forests.
Yeah, I bought it as a collectible, but that won't stop me from using it in airsoft. BEWARE. If you're hit with a BB on your metal helmet, your ears will ring like hell for a while, so if you can afford a cheapo Kevlar Helmet, wear that instead. I've bought a massive supply of surplus this christmas, and I can't wait for it to get warmer. All we can play is like. Ambush games. It's too cold to be walking around
Surprised so many people play airsoft on this thread.
Also surprised coal isn't on that list. Must not be a terribly lucrative business.
GO CANADA!
You know that sinking feeling when you don't even want to go downstairs to talk to your parents because all they do is diddle on their computers and ignore you whenever you talk to them because they're SO busy. No, they aren't working. All they do is read reddit articles and talk about the conservative agenda. This gets really old, really fast. I'm hungry, but I don't want to be awkward and walk past them without saying anything.
liquidjoshi wrote:When everyone on the thread plays airsoft, you want to, but there isn't anywhere where you live to do it.
If ur in the UK, go to Fort Scotland (search scoutthedoggie on youtube) in Scotland. My friend has gone there, and he said it was worth the trip.
If ur in the US, get together some friends and spring powered airsoft guns that are like $15 each (10 British pounds?) and play in a forest or gully, whichever is available.
when you get allied against by Necrons and BAs to wipe out your whole force in the last 2 turns of a 3 way game and you play WS. They must have realized that I plan to start nids within the month and are kick starting their bromance against me.
When you DS in a squad of hammernators and every one is to scared of them to get close enough for them to be effective so they are uselessly left to contest an empty objective. 200pts of bogeymen.
When every time you try to add an avatar its too big and I haven't the slightest clue how to fix that
dmthomas7 wrote:when you get allied against by Necrons and BAs to wipe out your whole force in the last 2 turns of a 3 way game and you play WS. They must have realized that I plan to start nids within the month and are kick starting their bromance against me.
That happened to me yesterday, BA+Crons vs. DKOK+Standard IG != very fair.
I was doing well using DKOK to tarpit and to infiltrate grenadiers, then Maphiston tore through everything until it was like 11 killpoints to 4. Chronic depression.
Makarov wrote:When you realize that are playing a MW German army with a ton of Tigers, and all you brought were regular Shermans...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Or when you your opponent is playing Russians , and he puts a crap ton of Russians infantry on the board. Saying that this is just one of 3 of his combat companies.
Yeah, that
(Because I COMPLETELY Understand FOW jargon)
Here is the translated version:
crap tanks(Shermans) Vs. God like Tanks (tigers which are hard/impossible to knock out with shermans)
Russians have use a crap ton of guys. Image a IG 40 man conscript squad, and times that by 3. FYI that was just his men. Not including tanks.
Automatically Appended Next Post: When Guardsmen Marbo kills not only himself. But, part of my other squad. Because, he can't throw a demo pack.
When you have a true anecdote about taking an arrow to the knee.
No excuses unless you literally had an arrow shot into your knee and it has stopped you from doing something you used to do. The arrow thing is already played out. This is maybe the hundredth time that joke has been mentioned. funny at first, now just getting bothersome.
Automatically Appended Next Post: when it is 30 min later and your opponent is now just deploying and is not showing signs of moving any faster. well looks like ill be ending my first game of 2012 by the end of the night. 3 way game using broken alliance rules that are in the BRB. GK vs BA vs WS
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
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killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
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im2randomghgh wrote:
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Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
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Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
im2randomghgh wrote:
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killykavekommando wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
I
V
Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
OOOO I love survivalist stuff. Two years ago, me and my buddies were going to do a survivalist trek in the Yukon, but we didn't go because one of my bros dislocated his shoulder :( I was looking forward to the dog sleds!
And yeah, I'd say the "different parts of the world" thing is a bit of an issue
But...uh...how do you have a flamer thrower in airsoft? I feel you on the 249 thing tho, one of the teams in my area has two (!!!) and play a very static game and castle up. They're easy to beat for my team though, because of our whole long-rifle sniper stratagem. Sucks for our outflankers :(
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Squidmanlolz wrote:
Jefffar wrote:That sinking feeling when your significant other is stone asleep when midnight rolls around and you don't get a New Year's Kiss.
Sneak the kiss, nobody needs to know
Almost peed
The ninja orkmoticon really makes it
And yeah, I have the whole "can't get a new year's kiss" thing happening for me too, cause mah guurl is uh...kinda on a different hemisphere...
Visiting her family in Ireland for christmas.
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Asherian Command wrote:Hey I didn't get my new years eve kiss. Do i care? Nope. I am having too much fun jump off my roof and kissing the ground.
im2randomghgh wrote:
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killykavekommando wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
I
V
Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
OOOO I love survivalist stuff. Two years ago, me and my buddies were going to do a survivalist trek in the Yukon, but we didn't go because one of my bros dislocated his shoulder :( I was looking forward to the dog sleds!
And yeah, I'd say the "different parts of the world" thing is a bit of an issue
But...uh...how do you have a flamer thrower in airsoft? I feel you on the 249 thing tho, one of the teams in my area has two (!!!) and play a very static game and castle up. They're easy to beat for my team though, because of our whole long-rifle sniper stratagem. Sucks for our outflankers :(
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Squidmanlolz wrote:
Jefffar wrote:That sinking feeling when your significant other is stone asleep when midnight rolls around and you don't get a New Year's Kiss.
Sneak the kiss, nobody needs to know
Almost peed
The ninja orkmoticon really makes it
And yeah, I have the whole "can't get a new year's kiss" thing happening for me too, cause mah guurl is uh...kinda on a different hemisphere...
Visiting her family in Ireland for christmas.
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Asherian Command wrote:Hey I didn't get my new years eve kiss. Do i care? Nope. I am having too much fun jump off my roof and kissing the ground.
I'm betting you live in the south?
No I am a practitioner of parkour and freerunning. and I am training for next year which is in about 34 minutes. I live in Illinois.
im2randomghgh wrote:
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killykavekommando wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
I
V
Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
OOOO I love survivalist stuff. Two years ago, me and my buddies were going to do a survivalist trek in the Yukon, but we didn't go because one of my bros dislocated his shoulder :( I was looking forward to the dog sleds!
And yeah, I'd say the "different parts of the world" thing is a bit of an issue
But...uh...how do you have a flamer thrower in airsoft? I feel you on the 249 thing tho, one of the teams in my area has two (!!!) and play a very static game and castle up. They're easy to beat for my team though, because of our whole long-rifle sniper stratagem. Sucks for our outflankers :(
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Squidmanlolz wrote:
Jefffar wrote:That sinking feeling when your significant other is stone asleep when midnight rolls around and you don't get a New Year's Kiss.
Sneak the kiss, nobody needs to know
Almost peed
The ninja orkmoticon really makes it
And yeah, I have the whole "can't get a new year's kiss" thing happening for me too, cause mah guurl is uh...kinda on a different hemisphere...
Visiting her family in Ireland for christmas.
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Asherian Command wrote:Hey I didn't get my new years eve kiss. Do i care? Nope. I am having too much fun jump off my roof and kissing the ground.
I'm betting you live in the south?
No I am a practitioner of parkour and freerunning. and I am training for next year which is in about 34 minutes. I live in Illinois.
Actually, it IS next year...for me
And why would you be kissing the ground?
And I used to do gymnastics, so I am ~proficient in parkour, though freerunning just seems superfluous to me.
Squidmanlolz wrote:Jokes on you guys, I can't get a New Years kiss because I'm single...Wait...Not again...
That sinking feeling when ^that^ happens.
Also a fan of Parkour and Free-Running
Falling on my face is a great way to start the new year. But I stopped running now i am inside making my dinner and making bacon. Mmm bacon. Also first time i will be alone and will have my shirt off and also have a keg of mountain dew voltage and pineapple. And every other food that i like. Because tomorrow i have 18 members of my family coming to my house..... Help me...
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im2randomghgh wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
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killykavekommando wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
I
V
Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
OOOO I love survivalist stuff. Two years ago, me and my buddies were going to do a survivalist trek in the Yukon, but we didn't go because one of my bros dislocated his shoulder :( I was looking forward to the dog sleds!
And yeah, I'd say the "different parts of the world" thing is a bit of an issue
But...uh...how do you have a flamer thrower in airsoft? I feel you on the 249 thing tho, one of the teams in my area has two (!!!) and play a very static game and castle up. They're easy to beat for my team though, because of our whole long-rifle sniper stratagem. Sucks for our outflankers :(
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Squidmanlolz wrote:
Jefffar wrote:That sinking feeling when your significant other is stone asleep when midnight rolls around and you don't get a New Year's Kiss.
Sneak the kiss, nobody needs to know
Almost peed
The ninja orkmoticon really makes it
And yeah, I have the whole "can't get a new year's kiss" thing happening for me too, cause mah guurl is uh...kinda on a different hemisphere...
Visiting her family in Ireland for christmas.
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Asherian Command wrote:Hey I didn't get my new years eve kiss. Do i care? Nope. I am having too much fun jump off my roof and kissing the ground.
I'm betting you live in the south?
No I am a practitioner of parkour and freerunning. and I am training for next year which is in about 34 minutes. I live in Illinois.
Actually, it IS next year...for me
And why would you be kissing the ground?
And I used to do gymnastics, so I am ~proficient in parkour, though freerunning just seems superfluous to me.
freerunning is all good fun really its just being the air for a long time that i love it so much and doing backflips and dives and the superman are enough for me to make myself believe i can overcome alot.
im2randomghgh wrote:
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killykavekommando wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:...When you may go hiking AGAIN.
I love hiking! I went today. Although alone. Which makes me talk to myself, which I hate. When someone's with me, I control myself better.
You know that sinking feeling when your day went perfectly... Wait. That's not a sinking feeling at all.... sorry.
OH!
You know that sinking feeling when it's new years eve, and you forgot you have to stay up late to watch the ball drop. Not to mention my family is on their arses drunk, and I don't drink. Even though they offer. I'm just not a drinker, luckily.
I love hiking, too. However, I just hiked 10 miles yesterday, and I'm still sore.
Click the link in my sig to see my tau, and please vote them in the gallery I
I
V
Ten mi=soft.
4 day 100 mi hike with my friends last winter.
Well, I can't beat that. In my defense, I did a 3-day wilderness survival scenario with nothing but a BDU jacket and a wee little knife earlier this year in a burnt down field. Damn ghosts wouldn't leave me alone (not kidding!!)
It would be cool if the sinking feeling club could do a big airsoft game, too bad we live in different nations.
...When everyone has failed to understand my femtau sculpt.
...When you haven't played a non-killteam 40k game in over 4 months ...When you enter the airsoft field and the other team has an m249 and a flamethrower. That hurt. A lot. However, I did nail the 249'er in the groin with my 500fps ak-74
OOOO I love survivalist stuff. Two years ago, me and my buddies were going to do a survivalist trek in the Yukon, but we didn't go because one of my bros dislocated his shoulder :( I was looking forward to the dog sleds!
And yeah, I'd say the "different parts of the world" thing is a bit of an issue
But...uh...how do you have a flamer thrower in airsoft? I feel you on the 249 thing tho, one of the teams in my area has two (!!!) and play a very static game and castle up. They're easy to beat for my team though, because of our whole long-rifle sniper stratagem. Sucks for our outflankers :(
The flamethrower is basically a pvc pipe with a trigger system and an air hose with some kind of scuba tank attached to it. It shoots about 150 feet and has a radius of 10 feet at optimum fan. Shot at 580fps. It took about 10 minutes to get all of the bbs out of the folds of my gear.
...When it's only 7:40 at night, and not even close to midnight.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you realize that you don't understand any text or online metaphors, abbreviations, or lingo.
...When you have another hour until midnight.
?
When you wrote that is was already 10:00 am here
where do you live?
....when you dicover that writing fluff is damn hard.....
That sinking feeling when last summer you did a 4 day exercise in the Brekon Beacons in Wales and it did nothing but rain and you had to sleep in sheep poop.
That sinking feeling when Army rations changed and now they are terrible. Damn budget cuts. We used to get Yorkies and Extra chewing gum and chocolate pudding. Now it's all fruit.
That sinking feeling when I don't know how to join the sinking feeling club.
@Castiel: you can have mod powers, too.
@DeadlySquirrel: you can join the club by just PMing me.
@Mr.Merlin: Alaska time zone.
@big mek crazygit: yes, I am desperate for people to vote on my tau.
@im2randomghgh: I just saw a Canadian movie, "Strange Brew" with Rick Morannis, and it reminded me of you because you're Canadian.
...When you slice your finger open with an exacto knife while cutting off mould lines.
...When you're the only one in the building still awake at midnight.
...When fireworks were made contraband by your nation's government, yet your neighbors decide that once it's after 2:00 am in the morning, then it's legal.
killykavekommando wrote:@Castiel: you can have mod powers, too.
@DeadlySquirrel: you can join the club by just PMing me.
@Mr.Merlin: Alaska time zone.
@big mek crazygit: yes, I am desperate for people to vote on my tau.
@im2randomghgh: I just saw a Canadian movie, "Strange Brew" with Rick Morannis, and it reminded me of you because you're Canadian.
...When you slice your finger open with an exacto knife while cutting off mould lines.
...When you're the only one in the building still awake at midnight.
...When fireworks were made contraband by your nation's government, yet your neighbors decide that once it's after 2:00 am in the morning, then it's legal.
My finger is bearing a fresh scar from my exacto knife as well.
killykavekommando wrote:@Castiel: you can have mod powers, too.
@DeadlySquirrel: you can join the club by just PMing me.
@Mr.Merlin: Alaska time zone.
@big mek crazygit: yes, I am desperate for people to vote on my tau.
@im2randomghgh: I just saw a Canadian movie, "Strange Brew" with Rick Morannis, and it reminded me of you because you're Canadian.
...When you slice your finger open with an exacto knife while cutting off mould lines.
...When you're the only one in the building still awake at midnight.
...When fireworks were made contraband by your nation's government, yet your neighbors decide that once it's after 2:00 am in the morning, then it's legal.
My finger is bearing a fresh scar from my exacto knife as well.
when you wake up 2 hours late for work.
The latest I've ever woken up is about 8:00 am, and I go to sleep at about midnight.
...when you have more people in the club than you have room on the banner.
...When you get arrested because when you take a loan from the bank they ask you for a collateral and you headbutt the man in the face. Hehehehe collateral damage ...When you lost a shootout to a bunch of slugga boyz
killykavekommando wrote:...When you get arrested because when you take a loan from the bank they ask you for a collateral and you headbutt the man in the face. Hehehehe collateral damage ...When you lost a shootout to a bunch of slugga boyz
My Sternguard to better in CC than my vanguard, who love to blow people's heads off with their amazing shooting... sterguard dont like dem termanators, unless they get the charge with pedro. 40 attacks, all hit all wound :3
killykavekommando wrote:...When you get arrested because when you take a loan from the bank they ask you for a collateral and you headbutt the man in the face. Hehehehe collateral damage ...When you lost a shootout to a bunch of slugga boyz
My Sternguard to better in CC than my vanguard, who love to blow people's heads off with their amazing shooting... sterguard dont like dem termanators, unless they get the charge with pedro. 40 attacks, all hit all wound :3
Ha! My tau make your Pedro Sanchez or whatever his name was (maybe that was the Napoleon Dynamite character) irrelevant because you only needed scouts to butcher my troops!
killykavekommando wrote:...When you get arrested because when you take a loan from the bank they ask you for a collateral and you headbutt the man in the face. Hehehehe collateral damage ...When you lost a shootout to a bunch of slugga boyz
My Sternguard to better in CC than my vanguard, who love to blow people's heads off with their amazing shooting... sterguard dont like dem termanators, unless they get the charge with pedro. 40 attacks, all hit all wound :3
Ha! My tau make your Pedro Sanchez or whatever his name was (maybe that was the Napoleon Dynamite character) irrelevant because you only needed scouts to butcher my troops!
Lol, my Sternguard murdered 3 Blood Angel assualt squards when assualt squads got the charge, and then my friend's tau murdered thundhawks and other tanks with railguns. SHOOTING IS A LIE
DeadlySquirrel wrote:That sinking feeling when you haven't had a game in 6 months.
Same feeling, bro.
Ditto. same feel bro.
It's been about 3 months, I think. I won though. So whatevs.
You know that sinking feeling when your kabar is so dull you can't even chop through bamboo to make a walking stick.
s,mdnkljnlf
How do you sharpen knives without buying anything? There has to be a way. Like. With special rocks or something.
Find a large and smooth stone, wet it. Then run it along the side of your blade, alternating sides evenly. Ensure it does not get dry or you will scratch the blade, keep it moist.
...When you're out of ammo in an airsoft game against the previously named flamethrower guy. I ran up to him and tried to tag him, only to be lit up on my side.
...When your teammate throws the pin instead of the grenade.
Find a large and smooth stone, wet it. Then run it along the side of your blade, alternating sides evenly. Ensure it does not get dry or you will scratch the blade, keep it moist.
Thanks. Are smooth rocks I find in creeks appropriate?
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Deadshot wrote:FYI they are called Whetstones.
Yeah, but if I just said it then I doubt he would of understood...
I would have, but I thought whetstones were a certain type of stone you have to buy, rather than finding lying around.
Yeah, but if I just said it then I doubt he would of understood...
No, I didn't mean it like that. It weas just a, for your general knowledge thing. Something that comes in handy when playing in trivial pursuit, the est game ever.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're out of ammo in an airsoft game against the previously named flamethrower guy. I ran up to him and tried to tag him, only to be lit up on my side.
...When your teammate throws the pin instead of the grenade.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
Yeah, but if I just said it then I doubt he would of understood...
No, I didn't mean it like that. It weas just a, for your general knowledge thing. Something that comes in handy when playing in trivial pursuit, the est game ever.
Oh, no problem. Don't worry about it. I wikipedia'd it, and I'm glad you threw the word into the matter.
When your 18 month old daughter takes your Vendetta for a "test flight" under her walker on a tour of the living room, leaving a piece here, there, over there and yonder with the main body still under her walker.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're out of ammo in an airsoft game against the previously named flamethrower guy. I ran up to him and tried to tag him, only to be lit up on my side.
...When your teammate throws the pin instead of the grenade.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?
...When your 40k army has stayed at 1750 points for 4 years.
...When you need inspiration for greenstuff sculpting.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're out of ammo in an airsoft game against the previously named flamethrower guy. I ran up to him and tried to tag him, only to be lit up on my side.
...When your teammate throws the pin instead of the grenade.
Haha, 5000 round magazine M60, haven't had that problem in a while
When you realize your an SCA fighter in a thread full of airsoft players;
My assault is to run at you with club,
My outflanking move is to run at you with club,
My ambush is to run at you with club,in 75 lbs of chainmaille and plate,'bout as subtle as an Ork.
You want me to pad my club? then it would hurt less and you wouldnt get those cool bruises!
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
Yeah, the m60 can just rock and roll without giving you too much gak. There was a guy at a local range with one. I didn't see him, but jesus, you could hear it. Sounds like..... god, I don't even know. I just know it was an m60.
Speaking of m60s, if I had the cash, I'd invest in an Airsoft M60. They're pretty cool. The good ones have a ROF toggle on them, which is insanely useful, especially if you want to use it like a normal AEG.
Yeah, I saved up last summer, working 5 days a week and bought the VN model, personally I don't like the Mosfet ROF adjuster, so I bypassed it. Imo, it's one of the sexiest weapons (I love cold-war tech) It never fails to turn at least a couple heads on the field. It is a bit hefty though, real to life weight and a lot of steel parts instead of aluminum. Works great as a GPMG, however has difficulty operating as either a light or medium machine gun due to the lack of maneuverability. perfect for directional fire-support.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're out of ammo in an airsoft game against the previously named flamethrower guy. I ran up to him and tried to tag him, only to be lit up on my side.
...When your teammate throws the pin instead of the grenade.
When the enemy team has 10+ grenades.
And three land by me and my charge
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Great White wrote:That sinking feeling when your kid brother erases all the data for your uncharted games.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
The problem is ghillie suits have to be very thick to keep you warm and prevent you lying on top of something pointy, so if would be as thick as it is long if I put on a model
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:When the only time you went airsofting was with a group of girls, therefore denying me the ability to "guy out" and play soldiers.
Yeah, during the summer I was having a water fight with some girls I know (I have a pool) and I got caught up in it and totally merc'd them, I was doing backflips into my pool and shooting them on the way in, and going underwater but holding my gun above the surface and shooting...and it ended with me tackling one of them (gently!!!) that snapped me out of it though
Then we went inside and got drunk and everything was okay
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
My neighbor was a marine sniper, so he has a ghillie suit from Vietnam. That thing was itchy!
I got three ghillies:
Woodland one from military surplus store
Woodland one from brother in military (I'll probably join when I finish my victory lap/post secondary. Join the canadian snipers-we have some of the best in the World!)
Arctic one made from scratch (as high quality as the other; my brother taught me how they make them in the military)
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
My neighbor was a marine sniper, so he has a ghillie suit from Vietnam. That thing was itchy!
I got three ghillies:
Woodland one from military surplus store
Woodland one from brother in military (I'll probably join when I finish my victory lap/post secondary. Join the canadian snipers-we have some of the best in the World!)
Arctic one made from scratch (as high quality as the other; my brother taught me how they make them in the military)
yeah we just made our own, it actually ends up being higher quality as you can tailor them to fit your needs etc, also lol at laying on something pointy
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
My neighbor was a marine sniper, so he has a ghillie suit from Vietnam. That thing was itchy!
I got three ghillies:
Woodland one from military surplus store
Woodland one from brother in military (I'll probably join when I finish my victory lap/post secondary. Join the canadian snipers-we have some of the best in the World!)
Arctic one made from scratch (as high quality as the other; my brother taught me how they make them in the military)
yeah we just made our own, it actually ends up being higher quality as you can tailor them to fit your needs etc, also lol at laying on something pointy
They're as thick as leather though, pointy stuff isn't even a problem.
And even with purchased ones, you are still supposed to add items from your surroundings.
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
My neighbor was a marine sniper, so he has a ghillie suit from Vietnam. That thing was itchy!
I got three ghillies:
Woodland one from military surplus store
Woodland one from brother in military (I'll probably join when I finish my victory lap/post secondary. Join the canadian snipers-we have some of the best in the World!)
Arctic one made from scratch (as high quality as the other; my brother taught me how they make them in the military)
yeah we just made our own, it actually ends up being higher quality as you can tailor them to fit your needs etc, also lol at laying on something pointy
They're as thick as leather though, pointy stuff isn't even a problem.
And even with purchased ones, you are still supposed to add items from your surroundings.
when your laying on your gear or other uncomfortable stabby gak and you cant move
...When the thread derails into airsoft.
...When you couldn't care less that it did.
When you want a ghillie suit model so you cut and glue a piece of your airsoft ghillie onto a model and ruin it.
That sinking feeling when you hear a rustling in the bush behind you in airsoft when you're alone (sniper was out)
When you hear 5 rustlings in the bush behind you.
I would imagine you could fray some burlap and try and glue the strands on then cut them to appropriate length
My neighbor was a marine sniper, so he has a ghillie suit from Vietnam. That thing was itchy!
I got three ghillies:
Woodland one from military surplus store
Woodland one from brother in military (I'll probably join when I finish my victory lap/post secondary. Join the canadian snipers-we have some of the best in the World!)
Arctic one made from scratch (as high quality as the other; my brother taught me how they make them in the military)
yeah we just made our own, it actually ends up being higher quality as you can tailor them to fit your needs etc, also lol at laying on something pointy
They're as thick as leather though, pointy stuff isn't even a problem.
And even with purchased ones, you are still supposed to add items from your surroundings.
when your laying on your gear or other uncomfortable stabby gak and you cant move
I use so many bandoliers and army belts it looks like I'm wearing a ghillie suit.
...When you're forced to watch a 2 1/2 hour chick flick. That new Descendants movie sucked!!!!!!
...when you're holding a tank kit box lid full of minis way up high in one hand, then feel something give way with a SNAP! from under your thumb? [I figured my thumb was on a War Walker's base, so I wasn't too too concerned for some sadistic reason]
...when a long while after you put away that box of minis, you bring it down to check on it, and realize that it wasn't the War Walker's base?
Edit: ...when you're trying to take off a War Walker's weapon platform so you can swap the weapon out, and are twisting it, and you finally feel it start to move, have it come off entirely, then notice that there's no peg on the platform anymore? [Still not fixed very well, unfortunately. It keeps popping off randomly despite the plastic glue I tried to use to repair it. But I got the weapon swapped out!]
The sinking feeling when you check your gallerys for new votes, and discover that some anonymus prick has put a 1/1 rating ON EVERY FÜCKING IMAGE IN YOUR GALLERY! your nice 7 and 8 paintjob ratings are now 5 and 6, and your coolness ratings are down to 6s as well, having been 9ns before. AAAAARGH!
When you sign up for a painting challenge, then realise that you are not going to complete your vow and will have to put the vow failed banner in your signature!
...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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So anyway, I recently played a game with someone at my local GW. This was possibly one of the worst games of my life.
Apparently:
His Veterans can have JP for free.
He can have an armour 13 all-around flyer with 3 TL Lascannons.
Iron Halos now have a 3++
A PF whose in the same squad, but not within 2" of my Dreadnought, can apparently attack my rear armour
It's legal for him to have a PF on an ordinary Assault Marine, and his Sergeant to have a PW.
Plasma Pistols don't get hot
And he can spend an entire turn whining about how I tried to shoot a building but he hadn't agreed we could do that. After I tried to point my shots towards another target, which he refused to allow me because I shot the building.
Also when your Xbox 360 gets the Red Ring of Death for the 3rd/4th time since I got it.
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:So anyway, I recently played a game with someone at my local GW. This was possibly one of the worst games of my life.
Apparently:
His Veterans can have JP for free.
He can have an armour 13 all-around flyer with 3 TL Lascannons.
Iron Halos now have a 3++
A PF whose in the same squad, but not within 2" of my Dreadnought, can apparently attack my rear armour
It's legal for him to have a PF on an ordinary Assault Marine, and his Sergeant to have a PW.
Plasma Pistols don't get hot
And he can spend an entire turn whining about how I tried to shoot a building but he hadn't agreed we could do that. After I tried to point my shots towards another target, which he refused to allow me because I shot the building.
Also when your Xbox 360 gets the Red Ring of Death for the 3rd/4th time since I got it.
Wow sounds like someone should read their codex before they play. every last one of those is so far from wrong that it begs the question if he even touched the rulebook.
When you realize that someday you may have to play some one like this guy
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
I'm looking at the Socom style one with the abs stock. I has a slightly shorter barrel and I believe 3 round burst capabilities (helpful?)
...When you cut your lip while shaving.
...When you die while holding diamond armor and diamond tools in mine craft.
...When you are addicted to Arrested Development.
...When there's six months until Prometheus comes out.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
M4s and AKs aren't Battle-rifles, they use lower velocity rounds, they are Assault rifles. Battle-rifles themselves are far less versatile than ARs as they are typically larger and have considerably greater recoil, while assault rifles can be a good deal smaller and easier to use at full-auto because the have lower velocity ammo and less stopping-power.
...your a pedo whos the guest of honor at a party by Chaos terminators of Khorne.
...your a banker invited to a march.
...Your learning to play warhammer from a guy that nobody else at the shop will play with.
I don't think the actual function of a real firearm should have too much to do with how you use it in airsoft. If you want to play sniper with an m249, go for it. If you want to play SAW with your high ROF M4, go for it. t
You know that sinking feeling when you paid for a knife that was supposed to be factory sharpened to be razor sharp, yet it won't even go through a cardboard box, and now you have to spend seven dollars on a sharpener
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
I'm looking at the Socom style one with the abs stock. I has a slightly shorter barrel and I believe 3 round burst capabilities (helpful?)
...When you cut your lip while shaving.
...When you die while holding diamond armor and diamond tools in mine craft.
...When you are addicted to Arrested Development.
...When there's six months until Prometheus comes out.
Burst fire is by far my favourite firing mode, not sure why. Once you give it a go, you'll get the hang of it.
...When there's several months until phalanx comes out.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
M4s and AKs aren't Battle-rifles, they use lower velocity rounds, they are Assault rifles. Battle-rifles themselves are far less versatile than ARs as they are typically larger and have considerably greater recoil, while assault rifles can be a good deal smaller and easier to use at full-auto because the have lower velocity ammo and less stopping-power.
...when the person your discussing things with says assault rifle.
...when the person your discussing things with wildly contradicts himself.
not trying to be rude but this just became pointless.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
Automatically Appended Next Post: When you cant decide on a warband for your army.. everythings either red or black or doesnt fit because of cult troops.
Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
M4s and AKs aren't Battle-rifles, they use lower velocity rounds, they are Assault rifles. Battle-rifles themselves are far less versatile than ARs as they are typically larger and have considerably greater recoil, while assault rifles can be a good deal smaller and easier to use at full-auto because the have lower velocity ammo and less stopping-power.
...when the person your discussing things with says assault rifle.
...when the person your discussing things with wildly contradicts himself.
not trying to be rude but this just became pointless.
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
killykavekommando wrote:...When you're a conservative democrat (that's me!)
...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
MartiniPunk wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:
We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
Automatically Appended Next Post: When you cant decide on a warband for your army.. everythings either red or black or doesnt fit because of cult troops.
Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
I'm looking at the Socom style one with the abs stock. I has a slightly shorter barrel and I believe 3 round burst capabilities (helpful?)
...When you cut your lip while shaving.
...When you die while holding diamond armor and diamond tools in mine craft.
...When you are addicted to Arrested Development.
...When there's six months until Prometheus comes out.
Burst fire is by far my favourite firing mode, not sure why. Once you give it a go, you'll get the hang of it.
...When there's several months until phalanx comes out.
eh burst is far overrated, its just a fill for full-auto without being legalized "full-auto"
well placed shots > burst > burst-auto > full auto
dont get me wrong putting 30 rounds down range in a couple seconds is fun once in awhile just not real practical.
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. gak i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
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Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
killykavekommando wrote:...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
Used to be like this but then I took a swingset to the head in the 3rd grade; some friend. Luckily it missed the temple by about an inch or so.
Knocked me down from prodigy though...
I can still get at least 80% on most tests without the need for study, but I get intense migraines now. -.-
Well additional ones to go with the already existing ones triggered by the smell of coffee and by the smell of cigarettes, which leave me feeling drained.
When you get invited to coffee festivals then go anyway because you haven't seen some of those friends for a while...
killykavekommando wrote:...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
Used to be like this but then I took a swingset to the head in the 3rd grade; some friend. Luckily it missed the temple by about an inch or so.
Knocked me down from prodigy though...
I can still get at least 80% on most tests without the need for study, but I get intense migraines now. -.-
Well additional ones to go with the already existing ones triggered by the smell of coffee and by the smell of cigarettes, which leave me feeling drained.
When you get invited to coffee festivals then go anyway because you haven't seen some of those friends for a while...
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
@Martini, the term assault rifle was actually coined in WW2, by Germans.
They created "sturm" weapons, and it was translated as assault, since assault and storm are more or less the same thing.
The U.S. created the term assault weapons, which includes but is not limited to assault rifles.
wikipedia wrote:The battle rifle's power and long-range accuracy are intended to engage targets at long distances,[2] but this comes with a trade-off of length and weight that make it relatively cumbersome in close-quarter combat. Also, the recoil of a full-size cartridge makes most battle rifles difficult to control when using full-automatic fire, though a few designs have attempted to control this tendency.[3]
In contrast, assault rifles fire smaller intermediate-size cartridges such as the 5.56x45mm NATO round used in the M16, Chinese 5.8x42mm used in the QBZ-95 or the Russian moderate-velocity 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm cartridges of the AK-47 and AK-74 series of rifles. However, some overlapping of rifle design and cartridge application occurs; for example a few relatively compact selective-fire rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO caliber have been produced
Battle rifles are larger, less compact, less mobile, non CQC oriented rifles.
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
quote ladder? Quote ladder.
Toasting in epic bread.
Feth...
When you realize Squidmanlolz ACTUALLY wrote feth, and wasn't autocorrected by the filter!
Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
We could make a really cool looking quote pyramid with this post
quote ladder? Quote ladder.
Toasting in epic bread.
Feth...
When you realize Squidmanlolz ACTUALLY wrote feth, and wasn't autocorrected by the filter!
When you are about to get dragged into one of these things . . .
MartiniPunk wrote:1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. gak i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
Actually the term assault rifle was invented by the Germans to describe their new rifle, the Sturmgewehr 44. Sturmgewehr Translates literally as Storm Rifle, though the Germans used the term Storm to also refer to Assault. Hence the Assault Rifle was born. Henceforth the term was used to describe any selective fire rifle, though generally refers to ones that fire intermediate loadings (ie 5.45x39, 5.56x45 and 7.62x39). As an aside, int he former Soviet Union and sattelite nations, weapons of this class are often referred to as Sub-machineguns.
MartiniPunk wrote:2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The term Battle Rifle has no actual technical meaning and has never been used officially to my knowledge. It is generally used as a term to describe rifles firing full powered ammunition (ie 7.62x51, 7.62x54) and capable of either semi-automatic or selective fire. However as other terms already exist to define such weapons (ie Semi-Automatic Rifle and Assault Rifle depending on configuration) the term Battle Rifle was redundant before it was coined.
However, in the accepted definition of Battle Rifles using full-powered ammunition, the AK does not fit. Why? because the AK is typically chambered in 7.62x39 or more recently in 5.45x39 and even 5.56x45. These three cartridges are intermediate rounds, not full powered rounds like 7.62x51 and 7.62x54R
MartiniPunk wrote:3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
There are a few different applications of the term calibre at work here. In the strictest sense, it refers to the diameter of the bullet or interior of the barrel measured in a number of ways. So the 7.62x39 cartridge is definitely a larger calibre weapon than the 5.56x45. However calibre is also frequently used (though incorrectly) to refer to the overall case dimensions or to the power of a round.
Of course tying the incorrect usage of calibre to the technically inaccurate term of Battle Rifle, we end up with a terminology mess.
MartiniPunk wrote:4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
Again, Battle Rifles don't exist.
MartiniPunk wrote:5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
Well 5.56mm and 7.62mm can both be assault rifles if they meet the primary characteristic of being selective fire rifles. The M14 was designed to be selective fire capable and some variants of the weapon were, thus meeting the criteria of Assault Rifle. However most M14s issued were done so without selective fire, instead just being regular Rifles.
As Battle Rifles don't exist, the M-14 was never a Battle Rifle.
MartiniPunk wrote:6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Wow, there are definite issues there, I think mostly with the confusion caused by improper (but common) usage of the term calibre. Let's see if I can help here.
5.56x45 Is an intermediate powered cartridge. It has a high muzzle velocity and fires a lightweight bullet. The result is a very accurate cartridge at most combat ranges with moderate wounding ability. It produces little recoil when fired, thus imparting a fair degree of controllability to automatic weapons using it.
7.62x39 Is another intermediate powered cartridge. It has a lower muzzle velocity than the 5.56, but fires a significantly heavier bullet. The result is lower accuracy and a shorter effective range than the 5.56, but a similarly low recoil, allowing for use in fully automatic weapons fired from the shoulder.
7.62x51 This is a full powered round. It fires a heavier bullet than either the 5.56x45 or the 7.62x39 and fires that bullet at a higher muzzle velocity than the 7.62x39 (but not higher than the 5.56x45). The result is almost twice the energy of the 7.62x39 and about 25 to 50% more than the 5.56x45. This is good in that it has increased lethality, penetration and range. It's bad in that it dramatically increases recoil and most firers find it very difficult to control a fully automatic 7.62x51 weapon without a bipod or tripod.
7.62x54R An old (as in more than a century old) Russian round, it is roughly comparable with the 7.62x51, but has a better profile at long range.
MartiniPunk wrote:7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
A fair comparison in some regards. A rifle (there are no battle rifles) will feel the recoil greater due to it's lighter weight and (typically) lack of a bipod or tripod. As a result a rifle will be less controllable on automatic fire than a machinegun chambered for the same round. On the flip side the machinegun will be much heavier
MartiniPunk wrote:8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
I touched on that one above, and this is very true. Though it should be pointed out that the 7.62x51 has a higer velocity than the 7.62x39 and more energy than the 5.56x45
MartiniPunk wrote:9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
Actually the difference is not minute, it is significant.
There is a reason that most nations that adopted assault rifles chambered for 7.62x51 sought to disable the automatic fire capabilities of said rifles in service. The recoil energy produced in said rifles made them extremely difficult to control when firing automatically. In addition they tended to wear out very quickly due to the added mechanical strain. These were soem of the reasons the west switched to the 5.56x54 round. The Soviets jumped over the whole process and used the 7.62x39 in their Assault Rifles from the beginning.
The crux of this situation is that we can't compare absolutes because the recoil energy generated by the different cartridges is different enough that it is possible to make a weapon that is too light to controllably fire 7.62x51 on automatic, but is so heavy that a 5.56 round's recoil is barely noticeable. For example, the M-14 was too light for full auto use when chambered in 7.62x51, but when Ruger took the design as the basis for the Mini-14, firing 5.56x45, they actually reduced the weight of the weapon by about 40% and were still able to keep controllable full automatic fire an option (of course if you watched the A-Team, their inability to hit a single person when firing their Mini-14s on full automatic may lead one to an alternate conclusion).
The same issue can be found when it comes to barrel length. A shorter barrel does produce more recoil, but again this is proportional to the cartridge being fired. This is due to 2 reasons. First up is weight. A longer barrel equals more weight, equals less felt recoil. As we established above, weight is a proportional factor. The other factor is unburnt propellent being ejected from the muzzle of the shorter barrel, which increases the mass leaving the weapon, thus increasing the felt recoil. However, as the smaller cartridges have less propellant in them, this too ends up being proportional to the cartridge.
I hope the above rant helps clear you the confusion that both of you seem to be experiencing, now back to more sinking feelings.
The sinking feeling when you realize you know way too much about guns for a civilian in a country with heavily restricted firearms ownership.
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im2randomghgh wrote:@Martini, the term assault rifle was actually coined in WW2, by Germans.
They created "sturm" weapons, and it was translated as assault, since assault and storm are more or less the same thing.
The U.S. created the term assault weapons, which includes but is not limited to assault rifles.
wikipedia wrote:The battle rifle's power and long-range accuracy are intended to engage targets at long distances,[2] but this comes with a trade-off of length and weight that make it relatively cumbersome in close-quarter combat. Also, the recoil of a full-size cartridge makes most battle rifles difficult to control when using full-automatic fire, though a few designs have attempted to control this tendency.[3]
In contrast, assault rifles fire smaller intermediate-size cartridges such as the 5.56x45mm NATO round used in the M16, Chinese 5.8x42mm used in the QBZ-95 or the Russian moderate-velocity 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm cartridges of the AK-47 and AK-74 series of rifles. However, some overlapping of rifle design and cartridge application occurs; for example a few relatively compact selective-fire rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO caliber have been produced
Battle rifles are larger, less compact, less mobile, non CQC oriented rifles.
When here I go again . . .
While Wikipedia may have a definition for Battle Rifle, it is not a technically correct term. Also check out the Talk for the article, seems that none involved can find the term being used officially in any way.
If the rifle has a select fire capability but isn't designed for sustained automatic fire, it is an Assault Rifle. This applies as long as it is firing rifle ammunition.
If the rifle doesn't have a select fire capability, then it's a Rifle.
You know that sinking feeling when you remember that your preferred army didn't get any new or updated models with it's latest Codex release?
...and when your army didn't even get cover art on that month's White Dwarf?
:: hugs my Kuriplush :: Its okay, little Kurifox... We'll get a proper update some day. Some day. Yes, it'll come. :: starts rocking back and forth while in the fetal position with my Kuriplush hugged up to my chest ::
Then we'll see what's what. THEN we'll finally get our retribution, and they'll suffer in the gloriously cleansing flames, guided by the Emperor's hand itself! :: has gone all crazy-eyed with an insane grin on my face ::
Yes, then they'll pay... They'll all pay for what they did on that planet... And the ones who ordered it... we'll have their heads on pikes outside the cathedral! It will serve as a warning to all! AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
:: the maniacal laughter turns down into crazy giggling as I watch all the silly people suspiciously ::
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...When you have OCD towards obtaining knowledge and you're on a 2 week break. I'm not kidding, my mind goes nuts if I don't obtain large amounts of information every day. When I was in 5th grade, it got so bad that I snuck an Algebra text book out of the respective classroom and into my desk. I finished reading it in a week.
That's why I read cracked.com
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We don't use grenades much, probably because we both use electric guns and have no reason to buy propane. I've heard they're really cool though. If I had more time before I left home, I'd invest in one or two for fun
I'm thinking about getting like ten low-cap M4 mags (usually like twenty rounds) and playing "real" games where you have to conserve rather than just blasting away on full auto the whole game.
We use all AEGs as well, but some Army reservist was on my team temporarily for one game. I prefer super-high cap mags of about 650 rounds, and I carry 2-3 of them per game. I'm thinking of getting and airsoft M14. Does anyone know how those are? Which company makes the best for the money?.
I've fired a real m14. Holy hell it had some kick to it. Fired beautifully.
Classic army makes a real wood one that's quite nice for somewhere in the $300s. Some are cheaper, but have polymer bodies, and run about $260.
Might be able to find a springer for cheap though. Makes it feel more like a marksmanship rifle that way, haha.
Haven't used any airsoft M14s, they are mostly all good quality, I've held most at my near-local store.
Yeah, the real ones are probably the most beautiful rifles imo, they are tremendously unwieldy (full-auto, mostly) due to the relative lightness (weight) of the weapon coupled with the strength of the 7.62 cartridge. The M60 fires the same exact round and has a very gentle kick compared to almost any other weapon that fires it (mostly due to the 20+ pounds of steel and aluminum)
...when you notice that you wrote more about the actual gun than the airsoft model...
M14's are pretty heavy actually, comparatively speaking
I was comparing it to other weapons that "successfully" utilize the 7.62NATO cartridge, there aren't very many battle-rifles that do so (save the FN SCAR-H and FN FAL) I find it to be more effective in LMGs rather than BRs.
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Right, but how can you compare the weight of a BR to the weight of a LMG? If your comparing it to other BR's that fire the 7.62x51 such as the SCAR, the SCAR is close to half the weight of the M14. You would have to compare it to another battle-rifle most of which (generally speaking) weigh in around 7 lbs (give or take) where as the M14 weighs in at 11+.
But yeah full auto on a battle-rifle is just a terrible idea anyways. Aside from that and the weight the M14 is an excellent platform, been considering building a M1a for awhile now.
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Personally, I've found that H&K weapons have the best yield.
And I agree, full auto is useless. The only real reason to have that instead of semi-auto is that you can:
A. Fire short bursts for more severe damage on a target (not a consideration needed for airsoft)
or
B. Have a reasonable chance of hitting something even though you are on the move and don't have a chance to line up a perfect shot.
Basically, you have to understand the circumstances though.
Full auto is basically only used for suppressive fire, great for light machine guns/heavier weapon systems because thats pretty much their entire function is to provide suppressive fire. The other use is for counter charges which falls under suppressive fire again.
Battle rifles aren't designed to provide much more than limited or momentary suppressive fire, the only use a battle-rifle has for full auto is in a smaller carbine (ie: m4, configurable AK's) and the only reason that is, is because they are used by troops who need the functionality of a smg without the need to carry a smg for putting alot of rounds down a hallway or through a door into a room, suppression on the run (CQ, Urban operations, that sort of thing) however in cases like the AK's the opposite is true since they can be used in suppressive role more like a traditional LMG. So basically the idea behind full-auto on a battle rifle is versatility, however the use for this is very limited to your more elite small squad operations, and even then they usually gear specifically for whatever role.
..when you realize you have no idea how to talk without using run on sentances.
I'm looking at the Socom style one with the abs stock. I has a slightly shorter barrel and I believe 3 round burst capabilities (helpful?)
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...When there's six months until Prometheus comes out.
Burst fire is by far my favourite firing mode, not sure why. Once you give it a go, you'll get the hang of it.
...When there's several months until phalanx comes out.
eh burst is far overrated, its just a fill for full-auto without being legalized "full-auto"
well placed shots > burst > burst-auto > full auto
dont get me wrong putting 30 rounds down range in a couple seconds is fun once in awhile just not real practical.
Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
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Well you've gotta point out how you think he's wrong, you can't just say THAT!
lol im new and trying not to piss off the community already.
1. he uses the term assault rifle. (assault rifle is the number one miss-used term in the history of weaponry, it was invented by u.s. government legalese. there is no such thing as an assault-rifle. assault is a verb which indicates action, not an adjective that properly indicates function or intended use. Not to sound elitist, generally speaking people in the fire-arm community do not use this term. "what are you assaulting? well I can assault that with any kind of rifle.. i can assault it with a potato.. does that mean I can go to jail for illegal assault potatoes?)
The Germans invented the title assault rifle, go ahead and translate sturmgewehr, it translate into "Storm rifle" storm being the action of rapid assault. The Germans used the term far before any other government.
2. he said an AK system does not qualify as a battle rifle.
The topic of qualifying weapons as either Battle rifles and Assault rifles has been under dispute for a decent amount of time and is subject to the observer in many cases as no "universal" standard has been set.
3. he is saying that battle rifles use a larger caliber while comparing it to an AR system. (AK anyone?)
I never mentioned caliber, anyway the round used in the AK series of rifles is completely different from the Nato 7.62, while sharing caliber, they operate at different effectiveness.
4. he is grouping two rifles and saying they dont qualify as battle rifles, then taking one of them and using it to compare to the other saying one is a battle rifle and one is not. (lolwut?)
5. he says: (let me paraphrase "5.56 and 7.62 aren't battle rifles they are assault-rifles." earlier he was talking about a M14 being a "battle-rifle" because it utilizes a 7.62 round.
I never called the m14 an assault rifle, you are misinterpreting the post.
6. he says : (again paraphrased "5.56 and 7.62 is an assault rifle. 7.62 are less versatile than 5.56 because it is larger recoil etc. 7.62 are easier to use at full-auto because lower velocity and less stopping power." (see it just doesnt make sense)
Most weapons utilizing 7.62 ammunition is more unwieldy due to either a higher recoil or a higher weight, 5.56 weapons are easier to steady on full auto.
7. he was comparing the weight of a battle-rifle to the weight of a light machine gun because they are chambered the same.
I was doing this only because they share the same ammunition, I have to agree with you here, it's my bad.
8. he doesnt realize that the 5.56 has a much higher velocity than the either of the 7.62's he was talking about earlier
You're just wrong here.
9. he says assault rifles are smaller and easier to use on full auto, when the opposite is true. A heavier weapon will have less recoil than a lighter one, same is true about barrel length, the shorter it is the greater the recoil.
The weapons utilizing smaller ammunition offset less recoil, given the AR series of rifles utilizes an extended buffer system, it has lighter recoil than any comprably-sized weapon using larger ammunition.
(*disclaimer* I realize there is a difference between 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54(r) but for comparison's sake the difference in recoil as you were talking about is minute.)
There's a good deal of difference in recoil between AK's and M14s,
you see it just stopped making sense, and wasnt worth continuing the discussion. I concede. Since it was being made out to be an arguement, He wins, I lose.
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Well for my local airsoft we have a three hits you're out thing going on, so burst is far more useful than individual shots.
ahh sorry i got confused between airsoft and other.
lol i never played airsoft, was more of a paintballer.
Sorry to sound like I flamed you, but I know a good deal about what I'm talking about, I am studying mechanical engineering and physics to enter the field of design and development (hopefully with FN Herstal)
Sorry for making such a large post as well , we should probably get back on topic at this point unless anyone has a direct response...
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quote ladder? Quote ladder.
Toasting in epic bread.
Feth...
When you realize Squidmanlolz ACTUALLY wrote feth, and wasn't autocorrected by the filter!
Pouncey wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you remember that your preferred army didn't get any new or updated models with it's latest Codex release?
...and when your army didn't even get cover art on that month's White Dwarf?
:: hugs my Kuriplush :: Its okay, little Kurifox... We'll get a proper update some day. Some day. Yes, it'll come. :: starts rocking back and forth while in the fetal position with my Kuriplush hugged up to my chest ::
Then we'll see what's what. THEN we'll finally get our retribution, and they'll suffer in the gloriously cleansing flames, guided by the Emperor's hand itself! :: has gone all crazy-eyed with an insane grin on my face ::
Yes, then they'll pay... They'll all pay for what they did on that planet... And the ones who ordered it... we'll have their heads on pikes outside the cathedral! It will serve as a warning to all! AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
:: the maniacal laughter turns down into crazy giggling as I watch all the silly people suspiciously ::
One of these days we will...
Then I'll get to use this.
Pouncey wrote:You know that sinking feeling when you remember that your preferred army didn't get any new or updated models with it's latest Codex release?
...and when your army didn't even get cover art on that month's White Dwarf?
:: hugs my Kuriplush :: Its okay, little Kurifox... We'll get a proper update some day. Some day. Yes, it'll come. :: starts rocking back and forth while in the fetal position with my Kuriplush hugged up to my chest ::
Then we'll see what's what. THEN we'll finally get our retribution, and they'll suffer in the gloriously cleansing flames, guided by the Emperor's hand itself! :: has gone all crazy-eyed with an insane grin on my face ::
Yes, then they'll pay... They'll all pay for what they did on that planet... And the ones who ordered it... we'll have their heads on pikes outside the cathedral! It will serve as a warning to all! AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
:: the maniacal laughter turns down into crazy giggling as I watch all the silly people suspiciously ::
One of these days we will...
Then I'll get to use this.
:: nods :: Yes, you're one of us...
We will burn the heretical filth...
Mister Fluffy will have great fun... great fun indeed. :: lifts a pink and silver flamer with Mister Fluffy written on the barrel in tie-dyed American hippie lettering, and fluffy pink fake fur on the non-burny pink parts ::
:: cackles again :: They will suffer... THEY'LL ALL SUFFER!!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
:: strokes Mister Fluffy's barrel until I realize that I put down my Kuriplush, then stops stroking it and picks up my Kuriplush and hugs it ::
's each time you hit the damage chart.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(gently!!!) that snapped me out of it though 
Hey, this could go in a circle!