Do you draw up plans or just have an idea in your head and then start building? I just start building my stuff. I find it easier to do for Orks then to have a plan and try to stick with it.
I would be interested I seeing your take on a FW Lifta Droppa. I have been contemplating on building one for myself and am not sure where to start.
Well thanks for posting all of your great creations and hope to see more in the future.
Do you draw up plans or just have an idea in your head and then start building? I just start building my stuff. I find it easier to do for Orks then to have a plan and try to stick with it.
I would be interested I seeing your take on a FW Lifta Droppa. I have been contemplating on building one for myself and am not sure where to start.
Well thanks for posting all of your great creations and hope to see more in the future.
hi mate, i build off the top of my head, i have only ever made a plan once.
here my lifta Droppa, i copied it from some one on here
hi guys, here is my Grot Mega Tank Mk2, 99% finished ready for painting, as this is a commission i will not be doing it, but i will be asking the guy to take some photo's of it all finished.
just wanted to say that your work is very awesome and has inspired me to try a little converting. however i have a question if you do not mind? what scale(s) of plastrut do you use for body panel and the flooring? i have been looking into supplies and alot of it seems to thin. Also whats the shipping to the United States on one of your scratch built? thanks -snot wads
Sooooo late posting this reply!! (Just by a few years...takes n Ork a bit to fink fings thru)
Anyway, wazzoo2000 you were lookin fer 'drop pods fer da Boyz. Well, in the 2nd battle for Armageddon (Actually the 3rd Battle for Armageddon, just the 2nd by the Greenskins) Lord Ghaz dropped Roks onto the planet, and then they became Fortresses/Bastions/Rally Points, what have you.
That could be a really cool scratch built fortress.
Oh, and one other thing Waz...me being a nosey Yank and all, Why have ya not givin 40K a row? Ya might enjoy it mate. Either way, your one of the best I've seen, and I've been doing this for over 20 years. And I'd like to take a minute and say Thank You. You've inspired a bunch of us and have are creativity flowing...so thank you.
The only thing I aint sold on is the Battlewagon front plate, but we have had that discussion
Greta job mate
hahahaha thanks mate, the next one i will make for scratch just for you buddy
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jonny5 wrote: still loving your work, did you get anywheare with casting some of it up for sale?
the guns and AA guns are being done and soon maybe for sale by another person, but i will link who it is when they are finished
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snot wads wrote: just wanted to say that your work is very awesome and has inspired me to try a little converting. however i have a question if you do not mind? what scale(s) of plastrut do you use for body panel and the flooring? i have been looking into supplies and alot of it seems to thin. Also whats the shipping to the United States on one of your scratch built? thanks -snot wads
5k give or take
i use for my main bodys and strong part 1mm thick plastic card and 0.5mm for detail work and some times thinner
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cheiflibrarian wrote: Waz where do you buy the tubing you use for the Dakkas? cant seem to find it nowhere...
search evergreen StripStyrene on ebay for tubes and rods, also search Styrene sheets/card for the sheets
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Warboss_Waaazag wrote: That is an awesome tank. Looks real cobbled together, just the way I like my greenskins' stuff.
thanks mate, happy to inspirer
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Gorlock wrote: Sooooo late posting this reply!! (Just by a few years...takes n Ork a bit to fink fings thru)
Anyway, wazzoo2000 you were lookin fer 'drop pods fer da Boyz. Well, in the 2nd battle for Armageddon (Actually the 3rd Battle for Armageddon, just the 2nd by the Greenskins) Lord Ghaz dropped Roks onto the planet, and then they became Fortresses/Bastions/Rally Points, what have you.
That could be a really cool scratch built fortress.
Oh, and one other thing Waz...me being a nosey Yank and all, Why have ya not givin 40K a row? Ya might enjoy it mate. Either way, your one of the best I've seen, and I've been doing this for over 20 years. And I'd like to take a minute and say Thank You. You've inspired a bunch of us and have are creativity flowing...so thank you.
Oh, and one other thing Waz...me being a nosey Yank and all, Why have ya not givin 40K a row? Ya might enjoy it mate. Either way, your one of the best I've seen, and I've been doing this for over 20 years. And I'd like to take a minute and say Thank You. You've inspired a bunch of us and have are creativity flowing...so thank you.
in a nut shell mate, no time, kids, wife, airsoft, model making and dog !
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Kosake wrote: Hey, there's been some talk in the other thread...
Yeah, the War Waaagh Zeppelin actually is a tracked, super-heavy jump-tank.
Now, since you just finished an awesome job, how about you look into that?
i dont know what your going on about mate
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here is a model i did a week ago, been posted on Facebook and my youtube channel, but not on here.
I just spent the last three or so days trawling through this thread (I am new to the site) and my girlfriend..I swear she has disowned me
Worth every minute though. After going through all of this... wanna know my favourite thing on the models, the parts that made me laugh the most (that's a good thing)... it was the tally marks on the guns or the little notes saying "big death" or "big shootas" or what ever they were. They killed me.
Overall, very impressive. I am no Ork fan (Space wolf die hard to the core ) but if anyone was to be seriously close to converting me it would be you with those "models" of destruction. Keep it up
TheMeerkat wrote: I just spent the last three or so days trawling through this thread (I am new to the site) and my girlfriend..I swear she has disowned me
Worth every minute though. After going through all of this... wanna know my favourite thing on the models, the parts that made me laugh the most (that's a good thing)... it was the tally marks on the guns or the little notes saying "big death" or "big shootas" or what ever they were. They killed me.
Overall, very impressive. I am no Ork fan (Space wolf die hard to the core ) but if anyone was to be seriously close to converting me it would be you with those "models" of destruction. Keep it up
To begin with, you are the reason I joined Dakka. I've spent a long while looking through Dakka but never joined, thanks for that, now I can subscribe! I (like many others!) have spent days trawling through this 62 page epic! You have converted me from a die-hard space marine lover to an orky WAAAGH-er and inspired me t o actually build and paint my AoBR orks that were sitting in the attic. When I heard you might have to stop, I nearly cried! But now I know you haven't stopped yet, I can sit and patiently wait for the finished battleship (and constantly picking my jaw from the floor!). GOT TO GO AND GET SOME PLASTIKARD!!!
Thanks Waz!
TheMeerkat wrote: When you gonna show has the finished battle ship? I'm super excited to see that fully painted up and ready to sink everything on the high seas!
Bit late now but maybe a pirate theme may have been pretty decent for it as well.
hahaha sorry to say mate, but i have to be in the mood for it, and at the moment, im just not
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KingOfDaBoyz wrote: To begin with, you are the reason I joined Dakka. I've spent a long while looking through Dakka but never joined, thanks for that, now I can subscribe! I (like many others!) have spent days trawling through this 62 page epic! You have converted me from a die-hard space marine lover to an orky WAAAGH-er and inspired me t o actually build and paint my AoBR orks that were sitting in the attic. When I heard you might have to stop, I nearly cried! But now I know you haven't stopped yet, I can sit and patiently wait for the finished battleship (and constantly picking my jaw from the floor!). GOT TO GO AND GET SOME PLASTIKARD!!!
Thanks Waz!
no no no thank you, its nice to hear from a fan, and i am here to inspirer all day long, and feel free to ask any question, apart from the plastic card one.
Been cruising this thread for the last 2 days at work. Holy hell dude these builds are amazing.
I have a question, I may have missed it in previous 62 pages, forgive me if this is a repeat.
How do you achieve the grubby red paint job? I see that you prime black, but are you using base paints then a red? Are you simply not painting 100% over the black primer or do you use a heavy black wash?
Haven't checked into your thread for awhile, been waiting on the new dex to decide what im gona be building (dread list! yay for walkers!).
I have a few questions about your epicness and how I may achieve similar feats! Ive been kitbashing and platicarding for a little while but what I really suck at is getting the nice square shapes you manage. I can handle adding plates and extras to an existing model and I can even scratch build some simple stuff, but its never as neat as you manage.
Can I check what tools your using against what I have?
I typically use;
dremel
x-acto knife
snips(or side cutters)
files
scissors
tube cutter (small thing - like a chopping block
Anything im missing or should consider?
Typically I do not massively plan and sketch out an idea, I basically pic the parts I want to go with, say a tau battlesuit for a killa kan and then start adding. But getting stuff looking super square and neat never works out :/
What do you typically use to cut your plasticard? and then do you use any tools to shape it afterward?
Big fan and thanks for the blog's, truly inspiring
First let me say that as a diehard Ork player your work and this blog are manna from heaven! You've nailed the Ork aesthetic perfectly and your models just scream Waaagh! I've got a battlewagon kit waiting to be kit bashed and your battlewagon with the big turret and boomgun is my inspiration.
I know you've said repeatedly in your blog that you're no painter, but I beg to differ and believe you're an excellent painter. Your paint jobs and weathering really bring your work to life.
Awfeel wrote: heya waz newly found the thread and paged from 1 to 62 without a single disappointing second.
Worth looking at this inspiring thread, and it has made me both a fan and now soon to be aspiring orky creator myself.
That being said, I see a lot of before and after in this thread and mostly from a modeling point.
Could you do a short tutorial on how to PAINT a section the way you do?
I notice you have a certain technique on almost everything that you paint in order to ork-ify it.
Not sure when you shade or glaze or drybrush.. but I am surely curious.
I wholeheartedly agree with Awfeel and would be eternally in your debt if you could do a tutorial or video that demonstrates your techniques and color choices.
Thanks for sharing your work with us! It has truly inspired and motivated me to improve my modelling and my Ork army.
hi guys, sorry i will reply to you all at a later day, i just wanted you guys that have followed me for the last 3 years and new comers something........
this is what i made 3 years ago when this blog was young
Bloody hell I thought it was the same one Ask for royalties at least some free models LOL or maybe you will get a visit from their lawyers for future plagiarism a new one even for GW
Anvildude wrote: Didn't you base yours off the one in Space Marine anyways?
Errrrrrr no
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lone dirty dog wrote: Bloody hell I thought it was the same one Ask for royalties at least some free models LOL or maybe you will get a visit from their lawyers for future plagiarism a new one even for GW
i'm going to ring them tomorrow, i don't want to be a dick about it all
I mean seriously. How can you call yourself an artist and then turn around and do that?! It's not just lazy, it's not just immoral and borderline illegal (as, I'm sure would be argued, they're not claiming anything with the actual photo or model and thus it counts as a 'new form of expression') but as someone who's pursuing a career in the arts myself, I wouldn't be capable of so blatantly copying someone else's work like that. Maybe if my bosses came to me and were all "We need a big 2-page spread of an Ork aerial armada by tuesday! And it can't all be fightas and bommas- we need bigger stuff in there too!", and it was Saturday night, sure, maybe I'd do an internet trawl for inspiration. But if I was going to just copy a design wholecloth like that, I'd at least contact the original artist and ask.
You should be a Dick about it. I'm sure they'll claim you stole their idea. I doubt they'll answer you unless you contact them with a lawyer. If they really think you have a case, they'll broadly put you under a restraining order of some sort or threaten you with litigation.
Gitsplitta wrote: You should be a Dick about it. I'm sure they'll claim you stole their idea. I doubt they'll answer you unless you contact them with a lawyer. If they really think you have a case, they'll broadly put you under a restraining order of some sort or threaten you with litigation.
hahahahahahaha i have been told to be nice about it, i have also been told to let GW "Do the Right thing" it is very clear what has happened and lets see if GW do do the right thing, there is a lot of people watching this see as GW are the first to clamp down on people copying there stuff lol
Your work is incredible. It looks better than Forge World stuff. As far as GW ripping off your intellectual property, they wouldnt hesitate to be a jerk to you if the situation was reversed. I wouldnt feel bad.
I also cant believe you built a freakin ork battleship!
Again, and IANAL, I don't think you'd have any case here. At least, not without them also having a case against anybody who's scratch-built a Wazzdakka or a Thunderhawk or a Deathleaper or whatever.
That's an 'original' painting, based on your model. The painting, no matter what the subject matter in it looks like or was inspired by or whatever, is legally Games Workshop's (or whoever painted it- we've already seen that they're not the best with writing contracts for independents).
it's not about weather or not he has a "case" in the court of public opinion when a company like GW uses the brilliant work of a hobbyist without so much as a nod, they look even more derivative and self serving than they already appear to many of us.
It is very poor form indeed.
Anvildude wrote: Again, and IANAL, I don't think you'd have any case here. At least, not without them also having a case against anybody who's scratch-built a Wazzdakka or a Thunderhawk or a Deathleaper or whatever.
That's an 'original' painting, based on your model. The painting, no matter what the subject matter in it looks like or was inspired by or whatever, is legally Games Workshop's (or whoever painted it- we've already seen that they're not the best with writing contracts for independents).
Well, it's quite possible they will get away with it since is is, as you say, a painting. The interesting thing though is that the posing of every single detail is identical. So the "based" on is a little to loose. And since they have used a photo to paint from there is case history of people taking such things to court and winning. Depends on the country where if would be tried.
Also, it is customary as people say to give credit and in commercial work also to pay a standard fee for using someone's material, also depending on country.
The last thing is that in the case of Games Workshop vs Chapterhouse Studios, that we are following in another thread, GW claimed that likeness was enough to be a crime. An example was the Mycetic spore thingie... it was a fussy blobb in the corner of the picture and that was enough according to them. Now the case has been very much of a nosebleed for them sofar. But still, that is their view. It would be nice if they held to their own standards and ideas.
Anvildude wrote: Again, and IANAL, I don't think you'd have any case here. At least, not without them also having a case against anybody who's scratch-built a Wazzdakka or a Thunderhawk or a Deathleaper or whatever.
That's an 'original' painting, based on your model. The painting, no matter what the subject matter in it looks like or was inspired by or whatever, is legally Games Workshop's (or whoever painted it- we've already seen that they're not the best with writing contracts for independents).
Well, it's quite possible they will get away with it since is is, as you say, a painting. The interesting thing though is that the posing of every single detail is identical. So the "based" on is a little to loose. And since they have used a photo to paint from there is case history of people taking such things to court and winning. Depends on the country where if would be tried.
Also, it is customary as people say to give credit and in commercial work also to pay a standard fee for using someone's material, also depending on country.
The last thing is that in the case of Games Workshop vs Chapterhouse Studios, that we are following in another thread, GW claimed that likeness was enough to be a crime. An example was the Mycetic spore thingie... it was a fussy blobb in the corner of the picture and that was enough according to them. Now the case has been very much of a nosebleed for them sofar. But still, that is their view. It would be nice if they held to their own standards and ideas.
SJM wrote: Ahh I see, tbh I think its awesome, I'd be over the moon if something I created made it into a official book!
However, that said credit should given somewhere for the use of your model.
trust me mate, i am over the moon, but GW need to do the right thing now, so lets see what they do
I think a nod towards your awesome skills and a lifetime supply of plasticard?
Atleast that way they would never need come up with original artwork or design..... they could simply put all your stuff into production
It's great that your work is shown, but someone at GW will be taking credit for creating it. If you took a model of, let's say. Ragnar and painted a painting of it, exactly like the model shows, then you'd have a bunch of GW lawyers racing to see the state of your colon. It looks like a photoshop job to me rather than a traditional painting, hence it's a photo manipulation rather than a painting. I've always been about giving credit where credit is due, your Orkiness is what most of us (i think) think how orks put stuff together.
It's awesome that some of us know about it now, but it still sucks that not everyone does.
As a graphic designer, I imagine that the image in the book was done by a freelancer. That artist cobbled together the image from other sources, and blended it all together into a uniform image. They sent that image in with any of others that they were working on, signed the release saying that the work was theirs and got their check. GW legal probably didn't bother to run all the elements of all the images, planning to just go back to their releases if there was trouble. Most likely they'll just burn the designer and claim it wasn't their responsibility.
At the end of the day, though, I would be surprised if they respond. Unless there are lawyers sending them letters, they probably don't care. Maybe not, but it seems that their legal department is about offense rather than defense.
Congrats anyway on getting published. If I were GW, I'd be calling you to buy your work for their new ork lines.
I agree with mars2024 that it was probably done by a freelancer. If it was, find out if you can get the freelancer's information from GW and talk to them about it if GW's hands are tied.
1. the painting was done by a freelance artist who was employed by GW 2. GW put the painting in the book (The Red Waaagh) thinking the Artist had not copied anyone else's work
3. GW are responsible for all work they print, seeing as the Artist was an employee/freelance, they are still responsible for what the print in there books
4. UK copy write law is very clear (LOL) as GW know and have been using ageist many people in the uk ove the last 10 years or so
dont get me wrong guys, i love GW and there models, i hate there prices.
again guys i will say this, all i want is GW to do the right thing, so let just see what that is, they said they will reply to me this week.
I really hope they do the right thing by you Wazz... even a verbal aknowledgement of your contribution would be a big step.
Would really like not to be pissed at GW for their business practices all the time. Here's hoping they come through & let us know there are actual human beings on the other side of the corperation "fence".
usernamesareannoying wrote: hey waz... have you ever posted a pic or list of the tools that you use?
id be interested in seeing how you do some of this stuff.
your just messing with me now aren't you hahahahahaha
ok here you go
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Gitsplitta wrote: I really hope they do the right thing by you Wazz... even a verbal aknowledgement of your contribution would be a big step.
Would really like not to be pissed at GW for their business practices all the time. Here's hoping they come through & let us know there are actual human beings on the other side of the corperation "fence".
You mentioned the deffkoptas being Nobz because they have two wounds. I dont think they are, I think they just have two wounds to represent the the heap of scrap they're flying around.
MagicMan wrote: You mentioned the deffkoptas being Nobz because they have two wounds. I dont think they are, I think they just have two wounds to represent the the heap of scrap they're flying around.
Cool stuff as always anyway, man.
yeah i have been corrected a lot over that comment, what i was getting at is the body of the pilot is way to big for a normal boy head, so thats why i have put knob heads on them plus they have 2 hits, oh well lol
Wazz'a mate, good luck with the GW thing its still great to see your outstanding stuff in one of their books, lets hope they do the right thing by you..........
Right guys, here is what has gone off, a Freelance artist, did the painting in the book "The Red Waagh", he copied my model "Da Belly Buster" thinking it was a GW model (so he says) then GW put it in there book, and printed it, this broke a copy right law, i then told them this has happened, they said there really sorry, we need to do they right thing.
i have been offered a lots of plastic crack (when i say a lot i mean a lot) and a framed copy of the Art work, plus they may well do a photo shoot in the future with Da Belly Buster.
In my opinion i feel this is very fare and i do think GW have indeed done the right thing, i can't stop smiling, hahahahaha
I think that, given the circumstances, this is really the best possible outcome: They were never going to grant you royalties from the gig, but it's arguably the next best thing.
It's good to see that they treated this case the way they did. If anything, GW should actually make it a policy to include hobbyists' models in their army books, codices and big rulebooks again!
And when all is said and done, your model appears in a Codex, and in a piece of artwork, not a standard photo -- I mean, how cool is that?
Lastly, it think it should also be pointed out that you really reacted in a very cool way, not slamming GW for idea theft, but also trying to protect your interests. Thumbs up for the very levelheaded approach from all parties involved
...
...except for the freelancer, whose body will now probably be found floating by the docks
Congratulations, to be honest I figured they would find some way to worm out of it. I assume you will be on the gw "blog" make sure you let us know when because you know, who reads that.
MagicMan wrote: How much plastic crack are we talking here...?
Bangbangboom wrote: Congratulations, to be honest I figured they would find some way to worm out of it. I assume you will be on the gw "blog" make sure you let us know when because you know, who reads that.
MagicMan wrote: How much plastic crack are we talking here...?
A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell.
A propa' ork brags to his mates about his new shiny bitz!
Think this worked out really well for you mate, congrats, and congrats again on getting published.
Maybe have GW take your name for the next time they're designing Orks?
Nice to hear that it was resolved quickly and to your likeing Wazz.
Can't wait to see what the crack will turn into with your mods...Though I would like to see your take on makeing a Gork/Morkanaut...hint hint... We will see....
london1662 wrote: Wazz'a great stuff mate, please do a in depth tutorial on your painting? i love your style mate.
mate, i am really sorry, but i hate painting and i really don't think im that good, there are far better painter out there that have already done TUT's on painting, plus i dont have the time, i am so sorry
Unless the images were uploaded to DakkaDakka then they won't have copies. Images posted on the forums are generally embedded from external websites. My favourite at the moment is Imgur. PhotoBucket is a lot of faff.
One of The administration staff on Dakkadakka.com banned me from the gallery then deleted all my photo, he said it was done by mistake. That's every bit of my Dakkadakka blog and tutorials gone for every
I had my previous blog deleted recently. There was somebody spamming the thread and the admins deleted the thread. I know they did it by mistake and also apologized for it, but it seems to be part of a potentially bigger problem now that all your stuff got deleted as well. :(
That's stunning wazz. So sorry to hear about it. It's a great loss as so many of us referred back to that thread often. While I'd be tempted to just chuck the whole thing, I hope you don't give up on it.
well guys, i can honestly say making all them models and posting them for you guys made me so happy, gutted it not even close to how i feel at the moment at loosing all them photo's, hours and hours of work went in to building up that dater base, not only in build the god dam models, but uploading them and then writing about them.
well thats the end of this blog, i will delete it in a week or two along with the others, i may start another one, we will see
This sucks monkey balls how the hell do you ban someone by mistake surely there is a check system before implementing no sorry wrecking a thread
I am sorry to see this happen to your work Wazzoo you have shown us some awesome models and given us some great tuts, I have learnt many great things and enjoyed your creations reguly I think it really is a loss to the community.
I'm not happy about this at all as I regularly reference this blog for ork tuts. If you do leave us please make a website or something for us all to enjoy. Its always good to come here for ideas
I have spent some time recovering pictures from the wayback machine... when I am done I can transfer them all to Wazzo or upload them to a tribute album in my gallery if Wazzo wants...
Thanks guys, for all your help and suggestions, but i think i will leave this blog here, it would take far to long to upload and re-do all them photo's we lots.
i will be starting another blog from fresh, so i will link it here when i begin.
wazzoo2000 wrote: One of The administration staff on Dakkadakka.com banned me from the gallery then deleted all my photo, he said it was done by mistake. That's every bit of my Dakkadakka blog and tutorials gone for every
Well, it hasn't changed my experience of watching this incredible work evolve over time. If you still have the personal photos than I don't really see how you lost out at all. This really makes me doubt anything from the staff of dakka, what sort of accident is deleting all of someones photos? eff them all
As long as you are building, no one can stop you
Man....I know everyone has been saying this and it must sound like a broken record to you but dam that sucks :( Dakka F'd up big style!
I guess on the positive side now you'll back everything up and this should never happen again. If you were to start from fresh that is.
I hope you fire up another thread, as i can safely say this for everyone that has read this thread that we're all super excited if you get going again.
Your work is a real inspiration to everyone that loves Warhammer.
Thank god you have come back I have been missing my Ork Crack updates been going cold squig got the sweats and everything
Nice idea and could have not come at a better time as I have a Landspeeder sat in the box staring at me, I bought it for the scouts so had no real use for the speeder.
I did kind of think it has a slight Huey vibe to it and seeing this has just given me a use for it Kommando Orks are going Apoc now
Love the back thruster what did you use if you don't mind me asking looks like it may have been a lid or something subbed to the youtube channel although I thought I already had what Facebook page do you post in ?
Anyway really loving the speeder I like the fact you kept the basic look and just added a little orkness here and there, really works well and glad to see your painting style remains the WaZZoooooooo Reddddddd great to see you lurking again
anyone like me who may have been slow on the uptake getting the news might like to see what i spent this morning researching...
i remember reading this thread when i first got on dakka--this thread being the reason i joined dakka, to be honest--and when i saw the battleship, i was agog. here was everything i wanted to be as a scratch builder. then the whole fiasco with GW (which at least had something of a happy ending)...
i wish i had copied Wazzoo's pictures to my HD for reference...who would have thought they would mysteriously disappear? shame on Dakka.
i got a lot of inspiration from Wazzoo's work. it was something to strive towards. (that, and a lot of wishing i had the free time and disposable income he seems to...) at least there is still the youtube posts, although with my crap bandwidth at home, i'd have to look at them at work...
still want to know what kind of swag he got...
sorry it happened, Wazzoo.
edit: tried to post pics of the codex that featured "da belly busta", but all i got was icons.
That tank!!!!! Inspired me mate... Great Stuff!!
5k give or take
Ask for royalties at least some free models 
want to see this haul so bad 
this stuff is historic it needed archiving 
Kommando Orks are going