Casey's Law wrote: Not positively or negatively. He was really into Orks, hailed from Yorkshire, came across a little rude in text but was actually quite polite vocally.
That's about the size of it. No offence meant anyway. I understand that some people have questionable social skills, it can make it hard to communicate with them. But it doesn't matter. We exalt the blog, not the person.
thanks for clearing that up, but i am a nice guy, what i said before was meant as a joke, and to the person i said it to, i have spoken to that person and also said sorry for any offence if there was any caused, which there wasn't, then loads of people started jumping on the band wagon and calling me rude, then posting that they were off, what it the point in that apart from making me feel bad, to be honest, i hope they closed the door on there way out, i don't want people like that reading this blog, most of all sheep.
if you have a question about modelling, then i will help, that's what this blog is partly about, that's why i post before and after photo's of my models, to sort of show you guys how i do it, not many on here do that and soon video's, i'm here to help you all if you want it, if you don't then im sorry lol
Cool, as I said, keep creating, that's all that really matters.
Update guys, hope you like, this is a different look i went for, i think the guns are a tad big, but sod it. my whole aim was to make another trukk AA gun, and make it efferent, i think i did that
ok guys, here is my Ork army War Trike Tut, i've tryed to keep things as simple as possible and use a small amount of bits and bobs, hopefully you may have most of it and the stuff you don't, just buy it from eBay.
First of all get yourself a Deffkopa, you can get them off ebay very easy, just don't pay more than £4 for an un-built one.
Trim it like i have, take your time, do it where the red lines are. put the bits lift over to the side, you can use them for basing on other models, don't for get to keep the Exhaust (marked with a small ring).
also the bits that are in the photo are what i will be using, i think that the orks on the Deffkopta are nobz in size, so im going to use a nob arm with pistol and a nob head (hahaha)(sorry)
I've built up the nob and trimmed up the handle bar (marked with a red ring), this is hard to do so if you copy this, take your time, if you mess it up, it will be hard to recover. don't forget you will need to trim the neck on the ork to fit the nob head (hahahahaha) or just use the ork head that comes with the kopta.
once you have him in the right place and looking good, its time to think about how big you want your trike to be, so place out your wheels and make a plan, see what feels right and looks right too.
next is the back wheels, you will need 3 different sized tubs, but they must all fit inside each other, you will see why in a moment. cut them like i have, file if needed, take your time.
now glue them together like i have.
then make a small round disk like i have, this will be glued on to the wheel to make a very strong join.
this will go inside the wheel, so check it fits, or you will be doing this again.
make sure the wheels are straight and it looks right, if it looks right to you, then that's all that matters.
next tidy up the back where some small holes will be from cutting, do what you can, add detail like back packs, ammo boxes and so on if you like.
next you will need to tidy up the front where the rockets were, this is done with a small bit of plastic card like i have, chip away at it to make it look warn.
ok the front wheel, make 2 small disk like i have, glue them on, 1 on each side, trim the rotor blade like i have and sick it on. file the tips (small red rings) so they are straight with each other, TAKE YOUR TIME, if you dont your wheel will look wonky.
no glue this to the front of the kopta, you will need to glue some support bars like i have, make sure this is straight, or this is heading for the bin, you may need to glue a beam / piece of plastic card to the blade tips then glue it to the kopta, it depends of what wheel us use.
then glue a beam at the bottom of the kopta, ringed in red, then glue your back wheels on, and leave to dry, but make sure it looks ok tho.
almost looking like a chopper already.
next cut some plastic card like i have, size is by eye, just use your head
then glue on.
do this on both sides, this is just to give it strength and a bit of detail.
next are some suport beams made from some smaller tube, cut to side and glued on.
next i stuck a small bit of card on to tidy it up.
trim up the Exhaust and glue on, (drill the holes)
now build up the front of the kopta with some plastic card, its not necessary to use card like the card i've used, but it dose look good (please don't ask where i get it from, i have a list)
next are the rivets, and for once i can give you the details of what i use, this is the rods.
chop a load up like i have and use a brand new model knife blade to pick them up, use liquid polly to sick, never use super glue EVER on any plastic model.
now you should be looking like this lol maybe
add some weapons, and some PVA glue and fine sand (dirt) and bingo, your there
Really like the gun on the AA trukk, i think i prefer the square ammol drums/holders/things to the round ones. Also, where did you get the guns on the trike in the tutorial? Especially the rokkit one?
Got my grot tank from wazz yesterday! For those who are interested, here's a size comparison with my FW grot tanks. Keep in mind that the guns haven't been added to the wazztank. Should make an excellent "boss tank".
Well holy crap. My mind just got blown. Got anything in comparison?
Hunt for Red Orktober! It looks like an orky submarine to me. Though it won't take long to 'hunt'...
To paraphrase from American Beauty:
"Sometimes there's so much [awesome] in [a thread], I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in"
PS: sorry, I know you said don't ask where you get your diamond-plate plasticard from, there's a list, but I don't see a list. Pleeeeeease?
lone dirty dog wrote: Now you talking those look great mate are you are rich man yet then
i wish i was a rich man making this stuff, to be honest it works out at £4 an hour after matts, so if it wasn't the love of making the models i wouldn't do it mate.
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thanks guys, yeah this turned out very very well, it looks so good from this angle, and the gunner too look bad ass.
lone dirty dog wrote: Now you talking those look great mate are you are rich man yet then
i wish i was a rich man making this stuff, to be honest it works out at £4 an hour after matts, so if it wasn't the love of making the models i wouldn't do it mate.
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thanks guys, yeah this turned out very very well, it looks so good from this angle, and the gunner too look bad ass.
LOL thank god for the love of the hobby then I think thats my favourite as well great looking buggies all of them
Novelist47 wrote: dude ur not the only guy who liked how them things turned out, everyone does
i just love the whole ramshackle feeling of all ur models, keep it up
thanks and i will haha
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Ok here is the Nobs on Armour on 40mm bases, still to finish, what do you think ?
Everything you do looks awesome, the new stuff looks awesome. The speed at which you make new things it ridiculous, but it makes for constant enjoyment.
epicwalrus wrote:Everything you do looks awesome, the new stuff looks awesome. The speed at which you make new things it ridiculous, but it makes for constant enjoyment.
these look good! The one with the double chain-glaive looks a tad wonky.
I don't know why, maybe the position of the weapon?
Maybe if he was leaning on it poked into the ground or something?
I'm really just nitpicking. He looks good as is.
The in game rules for these guys is they each should have a gun, which they do, and a powerklaw (or something equally killy looking like a big ass hammer or whatever, i think the chain glaive is fine for a count-as power klaw, some people might give someone crap about the one holding the axe though... like hows that guy strength 8??? which i realize means about 0 to you probably as you don't play)
and for some fun modeling opportunities... these guys guns can be upgraded to either be a kombi-machine gun and flame thrower, or a machine gun + rocket launcher. (the flame thrower and rockets are one time use per game and can't take both on same model)... I know I'm looking for the chance to model a meganob belching fire (even if his "count as" flame thrower was him burping into a cigar or something)
Could we get a photo of the backpacks?
Have to say the git on the right is my favorite, kind of giving the bird almost, and the pose on the guy with the double chain glaive captures forward movement pretty well. could make him pointing his chainsay glaive forward like he's charging or something to play more on it.
Again, nitpicking. these look really good already. now show us dem fannies'
Those nobs look pretty good, only thing I can say is that the nob with the glaive has a bent handle, or it at least looks bent in the photo. Otherwise, those look pretty tough.
I kind of feel like that boss trike needs some mudguards to beef it up and look "bossy," but that's only IMO. It looks awesome, especially with the Boy gunner!
lone dirty dog wrote: Nice build the front forks look great you should do a how to taut on them LOL
mate, there just tubes with a bit of a filing down and glue, very simple
Really that simple HUH go figure can you do me a favour then take a pic of the under side of the trike
ok ok just for you big man
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ok guys, did some work on my Chaos Nurgle Rhino today, was trying to sell it on eBay as it was, but alass no bites, so im going full hog and going to finish it and the sell it for loads more, just to fund my next BIG project, hope you like.
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skyfi wrote: these look good! The one with the double chain-glaive looks a tad wonky.
I don't know why, maybe the position of the weapon?
Maybe if he was leaning on it poked into the ground or something?
I'm really just nitpicking. He looks good as is.
The in game rules for these guys is they each should have a gun, which they do, and a powerklaw (or something equally killy looking like a big ass hammer or whatever, i think the chain glaive is fine for a count-as power klaw, some people might give someone crap about the one holding the axe though... like hows that guy strength 8??? which i realize means about 0 to you probably as you don't play)
and for some fun modeling opportunities... these guys guns can be upgraded to either be a kombi-machine gun and flame thrower, or a machine gun + rocket launcher. (the flame thrower and rockets are one time use per game and can't take both on same model)... I know I'm looking for the chance to model a meganob belching fire (even if his "count as" flame thrower was him burping into a cigar or something)
sorry Skyfi, i was ment to reply to you a while ago, but forgot, the Nobs in power armour are just a mess around, i was just playing to see how hard and long it takes to make them after seeing your Monsters, so as for spec (apart from the 40mm bases) they dont conform mate, if i was to make them again, then i would do it the way you have already said. as that helped me
Could we get a photo of the backpacks?
Have to say the git on the right is my favorite, kind of giving the bird almost, and the pose on the guy with the double chain glaive captures forward movement pretty well. could make him pointing his chainsay glaive forward like he's charging or something to play more on it.
Again, nitpicking. these look really good already. now show us dem fannies'
Think the nurgle car is quite funny and the GS work is rather old-school and comical, Nurgle is a twisted bastard, so it's right up his alley. Good job.
Can I just take the time to say how awesome this is! The skill and speed you do these things is amazing! Really immpressed, you have inspired me to do my own conversions. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to do this blog!
Thanks again guys for all your friendly comments, they keep me wanting to make more if I'm honest, thanks.
here is an update on my scratch built battle wagon, sorry about the back ground but i was at work and did want my work place in the photo's. anyway still loads more to do, IO'm on a long weekend now so can't get back to this til next week, so hope this is ok with you guys lol i know your all hungry for more.
personally, I think it needs a lawn chair, corona, and a little drink umbrella.
not to mention the leisure-grot, soakin up the rays!
lookin really good waz.
I meant to ask how did the casting process work for you when you casted your own grot tank a while back?
If you could provide some links as to where you found the good info at, it would be appreciated.
Kinda wanted to give casting a go with the squigs I'm sculpting. (thought of casting my picket fence chariots too) but afraid of ruining original in mold making process
I meant to ask how did the casting process work for you when you casted your own grot tank a while back?
If you could provide some links as to where you found the good info at, it would be appreciated.
Kinda wanted to give casting a go with the squigs I'm sculpting. (thought of casting my picket fence chariots too) but afraid of ruining original in mould making process
well that guy in the USA didn't want to do the casting any more, instead of telling me he didn't like my stuff (and i must admit it, i did rush it to get it to him, so if i could turn back the clock then i would of taken my time, oh well) he just fodded me off with a story he was going in another direction, hate it when people can't be honest, even if he just did it in a really nice way would of been good.
as for my own casting, all i did was make a one peace mould and pour the resin from the top, its the simplest way to make a mould, but making them is a right pain in the !!
here is a link to where i get my stuff from, if you ring them and tell them what your doing and the cost your willing to spend, they are very helpfull and get people like you and me ring all the time. as for going one step ahead of me, youtube is the place to go, so good tuts on there
I meant to ask how did the casting process work for you when you casted your own grot tank a while back?
If you could provide some links as to where you found the good info at, it would be appreciated.
Kinda wanted to give casting a go with the squigs I'm sculpting. (thought of casting my picket fence chariots too) but afraid of ruining original in mould making process
well that guy in the USA didn't want to do the casting any more, instead of telling me he didn't like my stuff (and i must admit it, i did rush it to get it to him, so if i could turn back the clock then i would of taken my time, oh well) he just fodded me off with a story he was going in another direction, hate it when people can't be honest, even if he just did it in a really nice way would of been good.
as for my own casting, all i did was make a one peace mould and pour the resin from the top, its the simplest way to make a mould, but making them is a right pain in the !!
here is a link to where i get my stuff from, if you ring them and tell them what your doing and the cost your willing to spend, they are very helpfull and get people like you and me ring all the time. as for going one step ahead of me, youtube is the place to go, so good tuts on there
oh man! did you get your originals back you posted him?
If i remember the tank correctly, I understand how you could cast the tracks in a one piece, as the "top" of the pour will marry into the side of the hull and not be visible..
but im how you did the hull in a 1 piece mold. i think i need to go back and look at it again.
I'll check them out, I appreciate you. for some reason I the thought of coating my styrene model in oil or something so the mold doesn't stick to it while forming then washing it irks me? I don't know why. I guess I'm just paranoid about losing original work.
Now THAT is a Battlewagon! Not only the height of cool but practical from a gaming perspective! Very well done wazz! Just love the umbrella and deck chair too! The fencing around it makes it look even more like an orky back yard.
So waz, how did you make your big gun wheels? I can figure out the "treads" on them, I mean how did you make the actual wheels to have depth (thickness)?
@ git, from what I gathered he sandwhiched plasticard discs together, possibly with filler junk material. I think the fella in video used stirring sticks for wood planks on outside of a singler wafer which provided a lot of thickness. Honestly, I fast forwarded through the video due to bein busy
@ git, from what I gathered he sandwhiched plasticard discs together, possibly with filler junk material. I think the fella in video used stirring sticks for wood planks on outside of a singler wafer which provided a lot of thickness. Honestly, I fast forwarded through the video due to bein busy
yep bang on, i cut 2 round bits of plastic card and the made a cross out of some thinker card and stuck it all together, then did the treads.
da waaagh orkz wrote: Nice waz.
Those lobbas are awesome! Could i recommend making a few boxes of ammo or scrap just to add some more detail to them?
well, if i was making them for myself and not selling them, then i would make an amour cart to go with each of them and maybe a buggy to pull them, so sorry this is all you're getting.
The speed you go from idea to well executed model to quality paint job is almost magical.
I'm loving lurking on this blog.
I did have 1 question about a bit i see you using for sights and your Nurgle eyes: it looks like a glass marble cut in half. Is this actually what the bit is, and (on pain of the List) where did you get them?
you will soon mate, i pick up my models from York next week, so will sort out a photo before the weekend.
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cormadepanda wrote: i dont think wazz will ever have an army. He sells what he makes.
yeah my army is quick big, its all about how much room i have. i only sell commissions now and the odd bits and bobs i make, its all building up to an epic model i have stuck in my head.
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Deunstephe wrote: Not everything. He keeps some of his stuff for himself, so we have no idea what's on his personal shelves...
see some one is reading this blog..............thanks mate
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Kandle wrote: The speed you go from idea to well executed model to quality paint job is almost magical.
I'm loving lurking on this blog.
I did have 1 question about a bit i see you using for sights and your Nurgle eyes: it looks like a glass marble cut in half. Is this actually what the bit is, and (on pain of the List) where did you get them?
thanks for the blog
Kandle
you're not on the list mate, your not asking me about plastic card hahaha, what i'm using is 6mm BB's cut in half and then a bit of plastic tube, they look ok dont they.
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rubirub wrote: an "army shot" or something like it would be cool. if you can fit everything into one photo :-)
keep up this great and entertaining work!!!
next week
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and here is an update on my scratch built battle wagon. i know the photo's are not that great, but i think you guys will like.
Good idea, going to have to order a supply drop soon..
did you just roll them around the barrel while the glue was setting or did you curve them before hand a bit?
derp x 2, did you just cut sections of a larger plastic pipe that fit around the barrel to get around bending? (figure bending easier then cutting that square on pipe)
That BW is looking even better each time I see it. I've been lurking for quite some time, I just decided to get an account after I got some nice looking models. I've still yet to post them.
Ok guys here is some thing i made last night at work, my Ork Kannons, a set of 3, i really like the way these turned out, i think if i was to do them again i would re-do the wheels, other than that, love them.
wazzoo2000 can i just say that this blog is without doubt......... 'outstanding!' just by reading this blog alone, an ork player never has to buy any ready made kit again!.............ok maybe one or two!
you're pumping these out! ebaying em? or got a comission? or just a monkey on your shoulder demanding you do it?
hehe i have a 10 hour shift to get through, so this model making lark just passes the time for me, tonight im going to try a Zappa kannon.
and yeah i sell some, building up money for my next epic build
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london1662 wrote: wazzoo2000 can i just say that this blog is without doubt......... 'outstanding!' just by reading this blog alone, an ork player never has to buy any ready made kit again!.............ok maybe one or two!
They're phenomenal, but shouldn't they have more GAK stuck on all over? They look... too clean, to smooth or something. I'm sure that you're painting will dirty them up, but I think the lines are too clean.
I have been imagining them pulled by WHFB Boars, though. Thanks for sharing all your hard work. I'd love to know what your day job is (you said you do these at work, right?).
mars2024 wrote: They're phenomenal, but shouldn't they have more GAK stuck on all over? They look... too clean, to smooth or something. I'm sure that you're painting will dirty them up, but I think the lines are too clean.
I have been imagining them pulled by WHFB Boars, though. Thanks for sharing all your hard work. I'd love to know what your day job is (you said you do these at work, right?).
you might change your mind once they're painted mate
Ive only read a few pages of this blog (the most recent ones) But i have to say your stuff is really, really good. Will be following this one for sure!
Wow! Those zzap guns look amazing! I have to agree though, that they look a little clean, and a few random wires encircling the barrels wouldn't be a bad touch. But astounding nevertheless!
cheers mate, iv'e got a thing about large scale! that was 1/14th! i will be trying 1/6th 'action man' scale soon.......anyway when are you going to do a Post Apocalyptic build? with your talent it would be 'sweet has'.....
just an update, some photo's just to show the scale guys, so dont start telling me that there not Grots lol
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update......
and another up date on the Zappa Gun, i really love the way these turned out, and i hope you guys can look at that video and my work and make your own, these guns rock and are so easy to make.
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gotta saw that barge/battlewagon is still probably my personal favorite still waz. I have no idea why. lots of your other models have surpassed it with technical skill but, it just seems... "right" for some reason.
Hope you fixed those floating shelves well, I had some and one due to weight pulled the bloody wall plug out and every dam thing fell of Lucky it was not my models
WIP photo's, for part of my next ork project, this is just a small part of what is going to be epic hahahaha
as so of you Warhammer 40k spotter will see, this bad boy is smaller than the FW model and smaller than some ive see on here, and the reason for that will come to light in a later post, and again, i'm not pay heed to Game Rules just working on the look.
wazz'er mate, you are on a another level mate! this is building up to 'megahyperawesome!'...............talking about levels? i think i have an idea whats coming!....................
So, uh, any chance of getting a Gargant in this thread?
sorry mate, i don't understand ?
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london1662 wrote: wazz'er mate, you are on a another level mate! this is building up to 'megahyperawesome!'...............talking about levels? i think i have an idea whats coming!....................
Actually Wazzoo I have to be honest here mate (which I know you hate LOL) but I was never a fan of the FW version I gather this is based on it never worked in my opinion.
However this I have to say looks pretty dam cool miles better than the FW crap hell I would have bought this version, thats saying something as you know how much of a cheap bastard I am
very cool copter waz. you should do a gargant. (more or less a giant version of a stompa.. you can find scaling pictures online for how big a stompa is compared to a gargant.... the ones at the shops here stand about 2-3 feet tall have shoulder spans over 2' wide)
Have you seen this guy by irondog studios made from a mr. potato head?
ok ok ok guys, stop guessing, lol look at the pic below and think 2x as big and also aircraft carrier, so there you have it, alos with some nice guns on.
waz, just cause someone else did it up too doesn't mean you can't do it up too. this extended kopter looks really good. i bought 9 deffkoptas at the gaming store this weekend cause of you, thanks mate.
Yours will be different, no doubt... even if its just cause the flyboyz can hop out of their koptas and take a nice relaxing sunbath and have a cold one..
"Leisure grots" seems to be a potential theme here....
Would love to see you do a diorama of the corona commercials to go with it... perfect thing to go behind an aegis defense line i would say...
You did a good job wazzo, but i never been a fan of the ork kopter made by forge world or any of its ideas. Just always pictured orks flying off and dying, which is a sad ork, but still comical and correct. Handel bars or railing are always a nice touch to those. Over all well done.
dsteingass wrote: You're gonna need more shelves, then more walls for more shelves, eventually it will take you longer to hang a new shelf than to build a new model
Dam and i thought you came up with that on your own great now another thread to watch
well mate there are loads of people out there making the same model, and have been for years, i probable wont be the first ever to make something apart from (see below) but i have made my ones smaller for a very good reason and you will see why in months to come.
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ok 2nd chunoork done, will get painted today, made this one look all packed up as this one will be sat on a lift or to the side of the carrier, not made my mind up yet.
For many years have I tooled around DakkaDakka, but not until this very morning did I find your blog. Not until this very morning did I have an account. You sir are an inspiration and a bonafide modeling genius. I look forward to seeing more of your work and hope to, when I am far less broke than I am now, order a commission or two.
You are a legend!
Can I ask what size plasticard you use for the base of your trukk (back transport compartment)?
Also, have you seen the new dakkajet from games workshop? Maybe you can use it on your aircraft carrier?
molonlabe2378 wrote: It's people like you that make me want to try doing things like you do. But I must say I am kinda intimidated by your work. I am in AWE!
this is the chunnork that will be packed away on a lift or the deck of the ship, first photo's are without the blades, so you can see more of the detail. for some reason my phone camara has taken some really nice photo, the colours are well nice it them, hope you all like.
next is with the blade on, still in a packed away look, this may well sit on the deck like this, not thought yet, i may make 2 in this look.
and now how it will look on a lift.
and some close ups of some of the detal, like the guns and back up gun, love it lol
Really cool Waz! This puts that already godawful FW model to a broiling pit of oozing shame festering with lice and maggots.
I'd like to know, where did you get the backup gun from? I know that it's from the old boyz kit that had 16 boyz in it, but is it just old or from a bits seller?
lone dirty dog wrote: This is so cool and the paint job looks great, who ever the commission is for tell them " you lucky bastard "
its not a commission mate, its for me, and me only haha
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Deunstephe wrote: Really cool Waz! This puts that already godawful FW model to a broiling pit of oozing shame festering with lice and maggots.
I'd like to know, where did you get the backup gun from? I know that it's from the old boyz kit that had 16 boyz in it, but is it just old or from a bits seller?
MagenWOLF wrote: Hey Waz, have you seen the new ork Bommer's from Games Workshop? I think they would fit in with your aircraft carrier quite nicely
you mean this ? yeah i have lol, problem is i want to keep it all small and compact looking, i also want it to all be converted to death, the GW bombers are very good, but just wont fit into what im making.
Ok guys, here we go, the start of a very long trip, hope you all join me and have fun on the way
MY ORK DESTROYER
ok so what is it? well its at ship that hovers in the air and kills everything, the plan is to make something that looks like the photo's below but Ork style, its as simple as that. its not going to follow any GW rules, its just a show model.
i am trying to make it look like it flys, or Hovers with the will of the orks, we will see how i get on.
ok, first off i need 2 Ork Stompa kits (ouch !!££!£!!£) i first strip off the main body of the stompa and build this up, if your going to follow this, then this part is important, so take your time, just building the body of my ship tock me 5 hours.
so once you have the first half made, using bits of the sproo, the 2nd half should be really easy, as just have a 3D model to copy lol the back of my ship is just a tad different from the front, im sure you can guess why.
then i joined both parts together, for this you need to set them down with support (white plastic bag) make sure your happy with the shape, the stick gak loads of sproo on it to give it support, do this with out moving the model, let it dry before moving it.
now the whole model is taking shape, its at this stage you can still play with it if your not happy, but i am, so im cracking on.
ok next is filling in all the gaps, making them look like welds and other stuff orky, crap job, take your time, and once done, leave to dry, this is done using Milliput, its very strong and helps support it too, making the whole model stronger.
i love the shape so far, if i filed in all the holes, i swear it would float
not sure yet whats going to be going on at the back, maybe some orks fast roping down from it or a depth charge thing going on, not sure
ok guys, hope you like so far, all im going to ask, is start thinking of a name, the last one was called "the belly buster" so lets have a good one like that.
ok guys thanks for all the nice comment and love already, bloody hell ive only just started this
ok Update day 3
i needed to make a flat surface on the top of the ship, it makes it easier to work with, and also i can start to think about magnets and what goes where, so what i did was get an A4 size sheet of plastic card and lay it on the top, fine the 4 points at which it is sitting on, mark it and the make a frame and build it up from that.
now i start to build it up with small bits of plastic card, small is easier to work with, however some times a big bit helps.
then at the front i did the same, but hard to prop up one end with an up beam to support it, then build it up again as per the side.
then there was no stopping me, build build build
there was area's that i wasn't happy with, too too battered and bent, so i built them up again, just to making it more boat like
the shape is coming on nicely, hard to see it in a photo, will do a video later
well should get loads more done tomorrow, the flat area will make it so much easyer to work with.
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Camkierhi wrote: Truly awesome. But it has to be Morkz Revenge surely.
ok i have a good flat surface now to work on, this will make it mega easy now to do what i want to do, in my opinion this was the hardest and most boring part of building this, now its fun fun fun
i still have big holes in the side of it, im not sure if i want it to be a boat boat/ship or a airship/hover craft ship thing, not 100% where to go yet, so im leaving this open as a gun port, almost sure we are going airship again like the Belly Buster
and again at the back, not sure yet where im going with this, we will see
ok this is the only plan written down lol, im going to turn it into 3 parts, for ease of build and so i can take it apart too. the dotted line is me being undecided where to start sec 3, as this needs to be big ish for the heli's
Get a chair a large stock of alcohol and drink till you pass out
I would go airship myself its more appealing, start the section with the highest point then build outwards hope that helps
I don't know if the paper shape is just a rough guide but the front section looks a little to round for Orks, just my opinion I would go for a straight end rather than curved but cut at an angle.
looking good there ... and also i think in the front you need a giant jaw... like a big fething airship shark... with big teef...what better way to put the fear of Gork and Mork into punny ´umies?
also... are you really palnning of sawing that thing apart into three parts then?... oh my... that´ll hurt^^... but i think it is a good plan...
looking good there ... and also i think in the front you need a giant jaw... like a big fething airship shark... with big teef...what better way to put the fear of Gork and Mork into punny ´umies?
also... are you really palnning of sawing that thing apart into three parts then?... oh my... that´ll hurt^^... but i think it is a good plan...
Hey Vik you will finally see what a complete airship looks like
Wouldn't a blimp get in the way of incoming Koptaz? Maybe multiple blimps, on outriggers? I prefer giant props ala avengers. Or giant ork rokkits, holding it up.
looking good there ... and also i think in the front you need a giant jaw... like a big fething airship shark... with big teef...what better way to put the fear of Gork and Mork into punny ´umies?
also... are you really palnning of sawing that thing apart into three parts then?... oh my... that´ll hurt^^... but i think it is a good plan...
Hey Vik you will finally see what a complete airship looks like
hurhurhur...
actually plans are in the making... i recently had to scratchbuild a bigger building for schoolwork... and that involved making round shapes ...wich in essence could be used as the blimp for a new try to make an airship^^
thanks again guys , keep all the comments coming, i am paying attention , and i am going to work some of your idea's into this model.
Update time
OK guys and gals, i've set it in stone now, this is the shape i've gone for, this is now the basic model done, its very thick plastic card on top, and i've added magnets so it fits like a glove, only the top part will come off and on, i have no intention of sawing my ship into 3 lol (who ever said that, not naming names hahaha ) so i have gone for a more ship shape front.
sec 3 will be the heli area, i need to take my choonorks in to work with me to get it set up right, so this part is not set in stone yet
a bit of detail work going on here, this is the underneath, some nice Rivets going on here, tock an hour to do this, bloody Rivets
and here it is sitting all nice and snug, where the line is, i am thinking of making an ice braker thing to go there, just to give it a more orky look and to add some shape.
still not sure what im doing here at the back, seen some nice FW bombs that Grots sit in that a friend of mine has, may well do some sort of engine blade thing with them bombs on sliding down the middle of it.
^that.... the amount of detail you can chuck out in that time...amazing...
as for the tailpart of that thing... i think engine blades is a good idea... that beast needs some visual means of propulsion...something nasty looking and big and sooty...! huffing and puffing!
i have loads of small kids working the ass off in a sweet box here in Yorkshire.
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Viktor von Domm wrote: ^that.... the amount of detail you can chuck out in that time...amazing...
as for the tail part of that thing... i think engine blades is a good idea... that beast needs some visual means of propulsion...something nasty looking and big and sooty...! huffing and puffing!
i think some big ass engines will be the key, as for big blades on them, not sure yet, maybe inside or some thing.
will be looking at 2 smaller side engines at the front and 2 big at the back, we will see
DUDE!!!!!! you are crazy! one week i din't look at your blog and BAM!.... there is this amazing framework for the carrier.
i'm so excited to see more!!!!
lifter section looks dead sexy!... never thought about adding that to an airship...why? I have no clue... seeing it know it looks totally dumb I haven´t yet included it to me last try ...
The first ship I was stationed on had a hanger bay that we had 2 helos in. I think ya need to add some type of traversing sled. Like what is on it to get them from your lift to the pad...your helos don't have wheels after all.
Here are 2 pics I found on the interwebs that might give you a idea.
You are truly a madman for taking this task on, and for that I commend you. One thing you might want to look at though is that the body wok that you made is held together with little strips while the body work of the Stompa doesn't have any of these. If you simply added some small strips of plasticard here and there on the Stompa then i believe your work and the Stompa body would merge much better
first time ive seen this, love it, my airship/hover is not as epic as that, but i will try to keep it in line with that one hahaha
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Viktor von Domm wrote: lifter section looks dead sexy!... never thought about adding that to an airship...why? I have no clue... seeing it know it looks totally dumb I haven´t yet included it to me last try ...
i have decided to remove the lift, just didn't look right
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Denua wrote: The first ship I was stationed on had a hanger bay that we had 2 helos in. I think ya need to add some type of traversing sled. Like what is on it to get them from your lift to the pad...your helos don't have wheels after all.
Here are 2 pics I found on the interwebs that might give you a idea.
yep i will be doing this, i have a plan
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ChaoticMind wrote: I second the name thundachild for this beast. May in fair better than its 'omie name sake.
its just not doing anything for me, "Da Belly Buster" is a cool name, need a cooler one
Oh had a thought on the name, Thunderchild, from War of the Worlds??
yeah liking it
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ok Update time, Day 7, 56 hours of work so far
ok section 2 basic build today, ground floor, i went with a Ork hight all over, ie 1 and a half inch high
section 2 floor 1
section 2 floor 2, i've added magnets to them so they sit nice and tight.
and here it is, looking all epic and that, cant wait to get some guns on it, going to add the 2 BIG guns from the stompa model at the front, like you see on a WW2 battle ship.
as you can see, i've changed the back, no lift, i felt it didnt look right, plus the engines are going to be in that area so no matter how much ork will power this things has, its still needs a place for them to go, even in the make believe world.
i like it better anyway
did a little on the back, not much tho
hard a look at a FW Cannon, i do love them, and there not to hard to copy, we will see where i go, got loads of weapons with the stompa's
had a play with the top deck, i liked the way the guy did his wood look with the plastic card, so i had a play and liked it, so my deck is getting a wood look. have a look on here http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=48393
been having a play with the decks, really like how they are coming along, im going to put some free standing orks with big guns dotted around, i think it will look really good
ok, i need your help, i want to keep this a flying ship but i am struggling to think of a way to make it look like it flys without going OTT, what should i do ? shall i just make it into a boat ? HELP ? feel free to use photo shop or a drawing program.
I think you should try something like the Avengers Sky Fortress type propeller side sponsons. You could magnetize them too, so you can have the best of both worlds. Plus add some rockets in for forward movement because well... it would look proper ork like on both a Sky Fortress and a Battle Ship.
Could go Zeppelin- use wiring to construct an envelope, then cover it over with paper mache for the skin- 'd be able to add orky bits all over that, then, and it wouldn't increase the weight too much.
Or Miyazaki- tons of little tiny propellers and paddles all over the thing, which really shouldn't be able to successfully lift or move the thing, but do anyways.
Gork/Mork/WAAAGH!! powered hovering, with big glowy green light pods on the bottom and sides, ala Extra Terrestrial style ships?
Or the Helicarrier route.
Or have it suspended on a flock of birds or gargoyles or something.
Course, da' best mek's are, so I guess that doesn't matter I cannot wait until this thing is finished! I'm loving how it's turning out so far. You asked what you could do with the back, why not make it a huge bomb compartment? Could dump a large one on da' 'umies wif a pay load dat size. OR, (it might be too late now...) you should have made he end a huge mess of exaust pipes/engines. But hey, anything that you do is going to look epic. Keep up the good work.
As I said before, I think it just needs one insanely huge rocket thruster at the back. It's a suitably orky solution and will look dyno. The diameter should probably be about 150% of the height of the hull and mounted centrally to the cross section. You can build in some flickering LEDs or battery tea lights and cover it with painted cotton smoke at the end. It'd look amazing.
I'm thinking you should do a Miyazaki type thing, like what Anvildude said, but with rocket clusters around it as well. Also, maybe a giant propeller at the back?Kind of like a swamp boat, but thicker, orkier, and maybe it has rockets in is blades? So it has a funny swirling corkscrewing flame effect, if you add lights/smoke effect.
i don't know if you know the disney comic tale spin, but a flying mechanic like the one form the "iron vulture" would look pretty orky in my opinion.
some propellers to keep it barely afloat and two huge ones for accelerating. sounds to me like only orks/you could it make work :-)
ok guys some detail work, really like the windows from the other boat blog, so i copied then, and i like haha going to be a bitch to paint inside there but hay hmmmm
did some small detailing on the stares, i think it made them look really good, so there going to be the say all over
no idea what this box is for, but i just love it lol
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Denua wrote: I think you should try something like the Avengers Sky Fortress type propeller side sponsons. You could magnetize them too, so you can have the best of both worlds. Plus add some rockets in for forward movement because well... it would look proper ork like on both a Sky Fortress and a Battle Ship.
i do like your idea mate, but i want to keep the ship sleek and slim, i was thinking of some big ish jets at the back with some wing things on the side, but up woulds ones like what "Kause not santa" did on his big ass ship.
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KingCracker wrote: That big ass gun....is one of the coolest big guns Ive EVER seen. Probably the priciest too
thanks mate hehe
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Ehrlen wrote: That's one bad ass boat! Can't wait to see it's final form
again thanks
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Anvildude wrote: Could go Zeppelin- use wiring to construct an envelope, then cover it over with paper mache for the skin- 'd be able to add orky bits all over that, then, and it wouldn't increase the weight too much.
Or Miyazaki- tons of little tiny propellers and paddles all over the thing, which really shouldn't be able to successfully lift or move the thing, but do anyways.
Gork/Mork/WAAAGH!! powered hovering, with big glowy green light pods on the bottom and sides, ala Extra Terrestrial style ships?
Or the Helicarrier route.
Or have it suspended on a flock of birds or gargoyles or something.
Zeppelin = no no no sorry really dont like that idea mate
think i'm going to have like i said in the post before, big ish jet and maybe some small ones, to make it look like they would keep it up and straight
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Deunstephe wrote: I'm thinking you should do a Miyazaki type thing, like what Anvildude said, but with rocket clusters around it as well. Also, maybe a giant propeller at the back?Kind of like a swamp boat, but thicker, orkier, and maybe it has rockets in is blades? So it has a funny swirling corkscrewing flame effect, if you add lights/smoke effect.
yes that maybe the route i go, 2 small ish jets and i big fan blade in the middle of it.
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rubirub wrote: i don't know if you know the disney comic tale spin, but a flying mechanic like the one form the "iron vulture" would look pretty orky in my opinion.
some propellers to keep it barely afloat and two huge ones for accelerating. sounds to me like only orks/you could it make work :-)
lone dirty dog wrote: Looking good the shelf is now clear to take this are you just using stompa parts on this or have you used any other kits
hahahaha you make me LOL so much, love your post hehe, yes im trying to just use stompa parts only at the moment, i'm doing it so if anyone want to copy, then there is a small amount of buy GW stuff, i will be using other stuff but for now its stomp all the way with alot of plastic card for good luck.
That thing looks perfectly like a British Warship, excellent work, as usual.
Personally I think Jets out back And some nice stubby Orky wings. Also a silly Tail fin, thinking the Venom aircraft style.
I also always loved the wing design of the US Corsair
Could look sleek and stubby and orky. And kinda tie in to the fighter bombers, ish.
Just my two pence worth.
not quite the wings i ment, go look at "Klaus, not santa" aircraft carrier and look at the side wing things, the go down, i want to do an ork version of that.
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ok update, just a small one
ok like i said before, im trying to use as much stompa bits as i can, keep it in the family and all that, so i've made 2 side guns, this is only one, i made the other last night, but no update on that till later, so there are one on each side, and i like how they turned out, very simple and they will be gunned by a grot.
again this is unfinished in this photo, but i finished it last night, all the decking was done, i will update the photo later. love the way this bit went, it give the ship a really big feel to it.
thanks again for all the comment, keep them coming.
OK I'm now going to upset some of you, i have dissided to make this in to a ship ship, a boat that goes on water, i can't rack my brain around making it look like it flys, i would have to add landing gear and i still have no idea what to do about engines and wings (up or down or across pointing one's AHHHhhhhHHHhhhhhh) so in a nut shell, we are back on track for it to be a boat, so HMS (insert name) Destroyer.
update time
ok i wanted to make a platform for the big gunzzzz so it looked kool-errrrrr at the front, so this is how i started it, just making some brackets and building it all up, this then gave me an idea for some gun ports.......you see my thinking now
so in these photo's you can see the ports, going to make some windows like on the old school ships for cannons, will do that tonight
any not think this gun looks kool
ok here is the rest, its coming along nicely now, side guns look kool kool kool
and overall this ship is look good, really happy with this, just ordered some stuff from FW, Small guns and a boss, bits and bobs, just to give it that added "BLING"
I agree, might as well be a ship... the logistics of using this thing in an actual game make it impractical anyway.... I would consider it more a display piece... or a work of art?
You could chop off the lower hull and model it as floating in water however. The hull looks a bit small for such a large, hulking 'ship'. Furthermore, you could add a ship ram at the front to give the impression that there is more Orkyness below the surface, without actually having to model it. As it is it looks topheavy, not necessarily a bad thing because it's orky, but still a little awkward.
Furthermore, Someone could actually use it in an APOC game as a ship docked in port, theoretically. Or offshore as fire support for an Orky D-day.
Or in other words: don't stop! This thing is a work of art so let that little bit of sanity you have left fade off into the darkness, even if it takes months to finish don't stop until every inch is covered with orkyness!
ok so what is it? well its at ship that hovers in the air and kills everything, the plan is to make something that looks like the photo's below but Ork style, its as simple as that. its not going to follow any GW rules, its just a show model
just saying again what i said at the beginning guys, "show Model" hahaha
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CommissarKhaine wrote: Looking great! I think your decision to build it a ship makes sense, and I love the attention to detail!
thanks mate
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Anvildude wrote: Now you need to chop it at the waterline and put magnets on- so you can take it and put it on a table with it looking like it's floating!
show model, not for playing with, it will float on my shelves on its nice stand hehe
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Meade wrote: I agree, might as well be a ship... the logistics of using this thing in an actual game make it impractical anyway.... I would consider it more a display piece... or a work of art?
You could chop off the lower hull and model it as floating in water however. The hull looks a bit small for such a large, hulking 'ship'. Furthermore, you could add a ship ram at the front to give the impression that there is more Orkyness below the surface, without actually having to model it. As it is it looks topheavy, not necessarily a bad thing because it's orky, but still a little awkward.
Furthermore, Someone could actually use it in an APOC game as a ship docked in port, theoretically. Or offshore as fire support for an Orky D-day.
Or in other words: don't stop! This thing is a work of art so let that little bit of sanity you have left fade off into the darkness, even if it takes months to finish don't stop until every inch is covered with orkyness!
WOW!..................yep that about some's it up................hang on!
fantastic!, outstanding!, mind blowing! oh and beyond human engineering!...........waz you are not from earth!
I'm actually really glad you made it a regular ship, it would've looked a little silly flying across the skies! Really think you need to bulk up the hull now though, or at least just the bow of the ship needs to be bulked up. Plus, it's even more like "Da Grimlug"! Love the crow's nest up top, you should have some wire/string going down from it.
london1662 wrote: WOW!..................yep that about some's it up................hang on!
fantastic!, outstanding!, mind blowing! oh and beyond human engineering!...........waz you are not from earth!
Deunstephe wrote: I'm actually really glad you made it a regular ship, it would've looked a little silly flying across the skies! Really think you need to bulk up the hull now though, or at least just the bow of the ship needs to be bulked up. Plus, it's even more like "Da Grimlug"! Love the crow's nest up top, you should have some wire/string going down from it.
more dakka in the post, can't do any more work on the centre till it all comes, lol should of ordered it weeks ago lol sorry for me slowness but big update once it all arrives
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KingCracker wrote: As always Wazz, your work is fracking top notch! That's the best "boat" I've ever seen
i feel the love as always King, thanks mate, still need a name, should really make a list.
This is the most disgusting case of modelling for advantage I have ever seen, and you should be ashamed of yourself!
In all seriousness though, these are absolutely fantastic. Way to make my scartch builds look like garbage! I'm taking notes on that boat one in particular, I got started on my own battleship (much smaller, Battlewagon sized because butthurt tears) and it doesn't look nearly as good (50% because its so small, 50% because holy gak that one looks awesome)
Dakkamite wrote: This is the most disgusting case of modelling for advantage I have ever seen, and you should be ashamed of yourself!
In all seriousness though, these are absolutely fantastic. Way to make my scartch builds look like garbage! I'm taking notes on that boat one in particular, I got started on my own battleship (much smaller, Battlewagon sized because butthurt tears) and it doesn't look nearly as good (50% because its so small, 50% because holy gak that one looks awesome)
hahahahahahaha !!!
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lone dirty dog wrote: Can I have some measurements Wazzoo200 I think I need a bigger shelf
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KingCracker wrote: I may be partial, but I think the name Da Thundacracka would be perfect.
Looking amazing. If it's a destroyer though, Should have some rokkits dude, destroyers is all about missiles these days.
still building mate, however this is my destroyer so i can have it the way i wont it hahaha big guns and all got some reckets in the post and still loads left from the stompa, so they might get a look in
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i did some more work on the BIG Gun, it really make me smile when i look at this as i like it so much lol i know i sound a little vain but i really do love how this thing went, i also decided to made this part of the deck wooden planks, this was hard work, but paid off by looking good.
i did a small bit of detail work with this crane, it gives it a more working ship look, and i put it on with magnets so i don't brake it off every 2 minutes
did some more work on the command decks, can't do much here as i'm still waiting for my FW and Ebay post grrrrrrrrrrrrr
open gun ports, not sure where i'm going with them yet, might put some orks looking out of them
love this little guy all on his own working his ass off hahahahahaha
@wazzoo2000 - I just stumbled upon your blog and to say the least I am flabbergasted, flummoxed and just plain jealous of your ninja like skills in this craft. I've been tinkering with the idea of doing conversions/scratch builds for my necron army. Granted I think Orks are like blondes - they have more fun but you know I gotta try. Anyway, I'm interested in knowing a few things that I just don't have time to read through 50 pages of posts to find out so if you don't mind could you answer the following questions for me - then I'll go away
1. Do you draw everything out first on a sketch pad before you do anything?
2. Do you use some kind of CAD program to decide on dimensions of the shapes for the plasticard?
3. What thicknesses of plasticard do you generally use?
4. Ok, I thought I had more questions...answers to #1 through #3 will probably create more anyway....
By the time your finished it will be in the top 5 most amazing and awesome models ever made, I mean of any type, I think it knocks the spots of that goblin town thing everyone raved about a while back and it's definitely my personal favourite, though Arakasi has a warlord and Meganobz that when finished will give you a run for my money. Keep going dude. Truly inspirational.
necron99 wrote: @wazzoo2000 - I just stumbled upon your blog and to say the least I am flabbergasted, flummoxed and just plain jealous of your ninja like skills in this craft. I've been tinkering with the idea of doing conversions/scratch builds for my necron army. Granted I think Orks are like blondes - they have more fun but you know I gotta try. Anyway, I'm interested in knowing a few things that I just don't have time to read through 50 pages of posts to find out so if you don't mind could you answer the following questions for me - then I'll go away
1. Do you draw everything out first on a sketch pad before you do anything?
2. Do you use some kind of CAD program to decide on dimensions of the shapes for the plasticard?
3. What thicknesses of plasticard do you generally use?
4. Ok, I thought I had more questions...answers to #1 through #3 will probably create more anyway....
1, No, i build from the heart, the only time i draw anything is when im trying to make my mind up about a shape of some thing or the .........lets say..........the size of a wing and shape, i would then draw it and cut it out and hold it up to the model. stuff like that.
2, nope, wouldn't know where to start and to be honest don't even know what that is lol
3, i buy all my card by eye, i have a model train shop in York, UK, that sell it all, so i just pop in and get what i need. my advice is buy a load off eBay and keep hold of the packaging and just keep re-buying what you like to use, i do this with tubes now from eBay, when one packet runs out i just re-order it.
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Camkierhi wrote: By the time your finished it will be in the top 5 most amazing and awesome models ever made, I mean of any type, I think it knocks the spots of that goblin town thing everyone raved about a while back and it's definitely my personal favourite, though Arakasi has a warlord and Meganobz that when finished will give you a run for my money. Keep going dude. Truly inspirational.
I think that those umm... gun ports under the (double mega my world cannon) could be used as the anchor housing. I think it would be functional and such...
Plus you can always throw a few extra guns and such in there.