Okay, here we go...


Alright six months ago I started researching, sketching, sculpting and acquiring models for a Slaaneshi daemon army. Got off to a good start and then got side tracked by the siren song of a all true-scale Black Templar army, more on that later... Anyway, here we go again. Now the goal here is to create a playable tournament army, that both unique and characterful. So, will be no stock GW models, everything will be getting some sort of conversion. These conversion with be heavily influenced by "Slaves to Darkness" and Liber Chaotica". While, I'm not going for perversion, there will be some naughty bits, we are talking Slaanesh after all. Hopefully you all can help me stay motivated. All comments and critiques are most welcome.

Since in Codex Daemons pretty much forces you to use a mixed gods list. I'm using "count as" to keep things Slaaneshi.


Here's what I have planned so far:



HQ:


1x Keeper of Secrets (Forgeworld Conversion)










1x Keeper of Secrets (Custom):








6x Heralds:








4x Chariots (converted chariots w/ plastic seekers):













Elites:


12x Pleasureseekers (converted plastic daemonettes mounted on winged steeds of Slaanesh) = counts as Fiends






12x Wyrms (winged snakes w/ steeds of Slaanesh style heads) = counts as Flamers






12x Gluttons (converted ogre bulls = counts as Blood Crushers)











Troops:


40x Daemonettes (GW 6th edition - metal daemonettes)


80x Daemonettes (GW Plastic Daemonettes w/ reposing and weapon swaps)


12x Slayers (GW Plastic Daemonettes converted to running poses w/ custom bliss giver swords) = counts as Bloodletters












24x Tormentors (converted grave ghouls is B/SM gear) = Plaguebearers





24x Gorgons (GW Plastic Daemonettes w/ floaty hair, blazing eyes, and ghoul arms) = Horrors










1x Changeling (a plastic daemonette in a commissar cap, jacket, and bolt pistol)



6x Terror Tot Bases (Converted Wyrd Miniature - Lilth Brood):








Fast:


36x Seekers (Converted GW Plastic Seekers)


12x Furies (Converted Plastic Daemonettes w/ feathered wings)





Heavy:


3x Slaaneshi Daemon Princesses (Custom Sculpts):













3x Slaaneshi Soul Grinders (Custom Sculpts)









Anyway photos to follow...

The Liber Chaotica inspired theme really has me excited to see how well you pull it off. Get some pics up quick!

So, lets start out with my Daemon Princess Sculpt, this is pretty rough as it still needs sanding and buffing. I've designed her to be modular so that I can make all 3 Princess models from same basic body once she's cast in resin. After which I cut up, modify the poses, detail them. Their are four different arms, three separate heads, and two different sets of wings; so lots of variation.

Here some early shots:

I plan on having three of these bad girls...boys...its? The goal is to have field up to 5 monstrous creatures in case I want to run a Demonzilla list. That and is just cool to see so many big guys on table top.

Scale Comparison with the FW Keeper:

Okay more current pics of the princess in turn-around:


Yeah she's looking a little stiff at the moment but that will be rectified once I get her cast up.

Extremly impressive work. Just to be sure Are you ditching the whole androgynus slaaneshi concept?

Impressive army list. Almost everything on that list will be converted and/or built from scratch? I admire people with ambition! And Slaanesh will be pleased. You are doing a great job so far. Keep it up!

Here's a couple more scales shots of the the DP and some other units.

Scaled with the FW Keeper:


Now this one will be the base model for all three, but don't worry once I cast her, I'll be converting the others. I'll post some sketches later, as I'd like input on them.

I need Input on:

- armor
- tails (yes/no)
- horns
- naughty bits? :lol:

Paul Atreides: Oh, I wouldn't say that I'm dropping the androgyny, I'll leave it to the imagination whats behing those loincloths; but yes my daemons will have their breasts in pairs, be they 2, 4, or six.

Xedric: Everything will be converted or sculpted from scratch.

Tizz: There will be a lot of direct translation of Liber Chotica concepts into this list. Lets fbe honest Chaos has not be chaotic enough for a long time. John Blanche's inspired artwork from "Slave to Darkness" will be looming large here as well.

Here are some older WIP shots of my custom seekers. The details on the mount have been greatly improved since these were taken. But I thought I'd throw them up to give an idea of where this is going.

Seekers:

I'm really happy with how this turned out. As you can see here I'm trying to copy the poses of the old mounted 'nettes. The only problem is that the riders are going to be with very labor intensive, lots of cutting and repositioning, also there are only 5 of the models in a box of 'nettes that are really suitable for this. I need at least 14 of these so I'll have to come up with a couple of alternative poses as well.

Very very good I am interested to see how this project pans out

Pleasureseekers:

Since I've already repositioned a few plastic 'nettes to serve a seekers, I thought I'd see how they look mounted on a Steed of Slaanesh. These will be counting as fiends in the army. I've been told that these are best taken in larger numbers so I want at least 12. The riders will be armed with the Slaaneshi Champions spear/lance thingy. The mounts will be fitted with modeling chain bridles and reigns. No saddles though as these girls ride'em bare back. The shields from the Champions will be going to my "Slayers" which will be up-scaled plastic daemonettes counting as bloodletters. I figure I have to represent their T4 somehow.

Say anybody need 12 odd Slaanesh Champions, sans weapons and mounts?

Brilliant (thumbs up)

The mini-keeper is quite nice already, you've done a wonderful job on her. I think the legs are my favorite bit - anatomically solid but also demonically thin and extra jointed. Same goes for the legs on the seeker mount. Oh, and I support boobs in pairs

There's loads of potential in this project, you can be sure I'll be watching

- Salvage

this is fantastic.

I love seeing scratch-builds that are really well done.


I'm amazed at how the seekers are coming along. how long does it typically take you to get that far on one?

Awesome. Magnificent scultping, great concepts. One to follow.

sA

Sweet. Even though Chaos is icky.

Lookin good so far, that is an excellent couple of sculpts goin on there, especially the steeds, looks exactly like the originals.
Tbf the previous slaaneshi stuff was better (yes, I know they were all scantily clad) but the new plastics are ugly-looking (which for the chaos god of pleasure and lust I can see being a disadvantage), it's just a shame they retired the old steeds (the lizard/snake things were wicked), plus the six-breasted thing was kinda cool. Imagine making love to a woman with six breasts?


Imagine making love to a woman........

Your Sculpts look amazing!

Okay progress!

I finished the wings last night, so here ya go.

Okay here are a few of my Gluttons IE. count as plague bearers:

I actually have 12 of these converted now, but I flubbed the pics of the others. biggrin.gif

Anyway what I did here was take a basic Ogre model and cut off the legs at the crotch, and sculpted new bare legs, while adding some additional height to make them more imposing compared to all those true-scaled marines running around these days. I also filled in and sculpted a bare belly, as well and carving in a butt crack. laugh.gif

So sculpted these two basic models so I could make casts of the bodies. As you can see the arms looked stumpy, so I late cut through the biceps and extended them with some copper wire and good old Aves Sculpt. The head are simply modded and not casts. Basically I shaved off the stone earrings, and ugly hair, beards, etc; and sculpted on some spiky bits and horns. The cast were later cut up and pined in more dynamic poses. Here are the casts:

I like the idea for the gluttons a good bit, though I would point out the bases are too large for count as plague bearers. I doubt many people would complain because they are so good looking, but technically they need to be on a 25mm base to be legal.

All in all, that is a great use of the ogres

Boss_Pimpalotz: Thank you.

Boss_Salvage: Thank you. I spent quite a long time getting thoughs legs right, and I'm still only semi-happy with them.

Beamo: The base model for the seeker took maybe 2-3 hours. I won't be sculpting each one individually though. I'll be employing the dark arts to cast off 14 or so.

Smiling Assasin: Thanks for your intrest. I'll be posting up some concept drawings for the army soon.

Malfred: Yes...chaos can be icky. I'm going for sexy but disturbing.

Leigen_Zero: Yep love the Diaz nettes were sweet, but the new ones are very nice as well and cheap...they just need a few...uhm...cosmetic alterations.

ChaoticFlanagan: Thanks buddy.

Wehrkind: Hmmm...hadn't thought about the base issue. I have some 25mm and 30mm bases, I could use. Is it legal to have material, like say styrene sheet overhang the base a bit?

yeah,
It's legal to have material overhang the base.

You should stick to the original base sizes as closely as possible, being a all Deep Striking army having larger bases makes your units more likely to scatter onto something!

Panic...

Armor Concept Designs for the Daemon Princesses:

Okay, I spent some time trying to figure out what sort of armor would look best. While I don't want them to be completely covered up, I do want to plausibly represent the "Iron Hide" upgrade. These are heavily influenced by "Liber Chaotic" by the way.


Let me know what you all think!

amazing dude i added this to favorite because i wanna follow this from beginning to end

btw all your sketches look great i just can't choose

Panic wrote:yeah,
It's legal to have material overhang the base.

You should stick to the original base sizes as closely as possible, being a all Deep Striking army having larger bases makes your units more likely to scatter onto something!

Panic...

Dang! I'd forgotten the effect of larger bases on deep stike. Alright then overhanging bases it is. I have some themed bases ideas I'm working on. Thanks for your help.

Simple, elegant, seductive... all the tools of slannesh, and youve captured it, great great job, I see from your sketches that you have some art backround as I do, I dont know, why not try all of them?

Wow, looking really good! I really really like the work you've put into the Seekers/Pleasureseekers. The comparison with the standard pose (legs stright out, straddling the mount) looks so horrid compared to the converted (and old) ones. The Mini-keepers/princesses are solidly worked.

What are the "procreate" feathers? Are they commercially available modeling bits? I'm looking for a bunch for my native-american themed marines and my GS skills aren't great at making them.

Not so sure about the Gluttons, it's a nice concept but the Ogres are too big, and still look too much like ogres, not daemons. Maybe some more mouths, like on their bellies? That would emphasize that they're only there to eat.

Keeper of Secrets:

Here's my Forge World KOS and the inspiration behind this army; and oh how I love her....

She will be getting considerable attention and modifications. She's all pinned, gap filled, sanded and ready to go so...

Anyway, I have planned the following conversions so far:

1. I'll be replacing all of the spikes on the leggings and glove with GS rivets/studs, just like the leggings of the Diaz damonettes and the steeds. I hate spiky bits! Chaos should be much more than that.

2. The breast plate will be aged gold and platnium, with the spikes on the breastplate replaced with miniture plastic gems.

3. Sculpting a branded Slaanesh symbol on the left inner thigh.

4. Sanding off the eyes on the accessory breasts and replacing them with actual nipples. I get the joke but the concept is just silly. These may or may not be pierced.

5. The resin chains including the necklace will all be replaced with modeling chain and metal foil. The Slaanesh symbol will probably be photo-etched. I got a small machine from micro mark, but haven't had time to play with it yet. I got it for my military and ship modeling, but will be following FW lead on this and future minature projects.

6. The up raise hand will be replace with a custom hand grasping a barbed whip.

7. Her sword blade had a large bubble flaw in her casting, so that will be replace with a heavier styrene and brass rod staff bearing Slaaneshes symbol from "Slave to Darkness".

8. Finally, a pierced tounge.

Yet more Daemons!

This guy will serve as a second Keeper or "Count as Skarbrand". In either case he shall be based on this:


Comments and critiques as usual are greatly appreciated. Let me know what you think!

gennadius: Thanks bro, this time I'll actually get this army done.

gameandwatch: I probably will, I have 2-4 3" tall heralds to sculpt, and they'll need costumes as well. I'll do some more sketches.

tzeentchling: Yeah pain in the that it will be I'm going to have sculpt some more scratch sitting poses, to at least mix in with the stradle legged poses. I suposse I could just sculpt the bodies cast them and outfit with daemonettes heads, arms and feet.

"Procreate" is a epoxy putty similar to GS. I can post up a tutorial on how I did the feathers its really easy. I would probably take you an hour to sculpt all the feathers you could ever need for your army.

On the gluttons I'll admit they are a little over the top as I "biggerized" them as well. But having said that the Plaguebearer art in the Daemon Codex is just as beefy. In fact the way they look in the dex almost made me go Nurgle.

As for them not being daemonic enough I had in mind the Genie from Disney's Aladin sans the paracute pants ofcourse. I plan to paint them pastel blue, with realistically bloody maws and hands. Hmmm...maybe some tentacles....

Sersi wrote:4. Sanding off the eyes on the accessory breasts and replacing them with actual nipples. I get the joke but the concept is just silly. These may or may not be pierced.

YES! This alone is an excellent move, though the de-spiking is a nice move and the pierced tongue seems just plain called for

Great armor sketches too, though I suppose the first one seems the most "3+ save" of them all. Nice arm / leg armor on #2 too.

Gluttons are quite cool! Pity about 40k anal basing in 5th edition, though I have to agree that a unit that is deepstriking all the time does depend a bit on the base size than others ... Still cool!

- Salvage

What fantastic work! I love the gluttons, they might possibly be the best slaanesh concept I've seen.

I love what you're doing with the others though, I think so many people miss the point of slaanesh which is a shame. It should be sexy but perverted, just like the excerpt in one of the HH books where half the crowd are trying to screw each other, the other half are slaughtering them.

Watching with great interest.

I hate you, nah not really these models are fantastic! Thought the ogre look to big for plague bearers more beast of nurgle or with some added armour Bloodcrushers

But it's you army.

I love the wings. Beautiful. A tutorial would be appreciated.

Armor sketches are all great. Do them all? Otherwise Im voting for the first.

That image you're basing your second keeper on is brilliant. Where is it from? Im completely convinced youll pull it off. So far the legs look fine Cant wait to see more!

And I must also chime in on the clever counts as plaguebearers. Very clever!

I really dig the first set of armor too, though all those sketches are worth saving (when I am not on my work pc...)

Excellent work so far! Man, this really makes me want to make a daemon army!

Okay, I've been making steady progress with the Damon Princess, the body, wings and alternate arms are all done. I'm still working on the head designs but have roughed out the basic head. I'll be casting it and moding the heads, hopefully I'll get the design sketches posted up tonight. I've also made progress on the FW Keeper conversion the leggings are done as are the new breasts and weapons. I'm still working on the new left hand and whip. Still progress has been made.

Boss_Salvage: I will be posting updated armor designs tonight. I like #1 to much not to use it. So I just need to decide on the other two girls. Updated pic on the FW Keeper tonight as well.

_Si_: Thanks the Glutton name and concept is mine but the Idea of Slaaneshi Ogre conversion has been done before. I just have taken the idea a bit further.

Proiteus: Yeah, they are big but if you look at the Plaguebearers artwork in the codex on p.15, they're huge! Easily 2-3 heads taller than a Guardsmen. Which if you think about is they should be marine sized at least, big slow and lumbering, thery're not zombies afterall.

Xedric: The tutorial will be coming soon, I've set up a blog to where I'll post that and some detailed casting tutorials as well.


Anyway will be posting updated tonight...

Okay, I have a Mod question, is discussion of casting allowed on the forum? I'd like to show the casting of my custom sculpted model, but I don't want to break any rules. If not I'll just link to my new blog. Thanks!

Excellent work! I'l be following this with interest.

As for discussions on casting. It has been done before on dakka, and mods have okeyed the posting of casting tutorials. Casting is legal, copyright infringement is not, but since you undoubtedly add "considerale artistic input" to whatever you cast you should be fine. (your local laws might vary a bit...) So yes, I'm looking forward a lot to your tutorials, both on casting and on wingcrafting.

Alright updates...at last...

Okay, here's a turn-a-round of the near final conversion on my FW Keeper of Secrets. And here's a couple of close ups. The eyes on the extra breasts were sanded off and they been resculpted in Aves Fixit, and topped off with Green stuff nipples. The nipples and studs were basically stamped out small blobs of GS putty using these.



What are they you ask, well they're "blunt tipped injection needles". You can used these for all kinds of detailing on minatures, rivets, eyes, embossed designs etc. I got this excellent tip from: http://jamesvanschaik.blogspot.com/search?q=rivets. It is a great site with lots of tutorials and videos! Also here a super cheap online site where you can buy similar blunt tipped needles http://www.zeph.com/applicator_tips.htm for about $0.50 each. Do what I did get the variety pack, you get two of each of the 15 different gauge sizes, for $19.95!


Comments and critques are welcome as always. Up next the final clean up and casting of the Daemon Princess...

I just love the sculpting - can't wait to see the next update!

Daemon Princess Casting Walktrough:

I've gotten the Daemon Princess done up to the point of casting. So, I'm going to put up a walk through of the final stages ; and then I'll circle back to some sculpting tutorials and tips.


Here I'm doing some final cleanup on the model using some 3M fine sanding pads. This mini was sculpted Aves Sculpt and Procreate putty, both of which take sanding very well. Also the final polishing of the surface done with Acetone and a medium hard toothbrush, this gives an almost glassy smooth surface.

All this time consuming sanding is necessary because silicon casting rubber picks up everything: fingerprints, stray hairs, nicks, scratches.... Well you get the picture.

And here she is all smooth as silk...er...anyway. I have the model under a lamp to bake solid the Aves I used to fill in the holes that I used to pin the arms and wings to it. If silicon was to fill those deep holes the model would be locked into the mold. Seriously, having done the above before fill in any holes or voids, prior to molding.





Next up: Making Mold Sprues!

Okay, sprues...

If you’re going to cast you have to provide proper ventilation. When you pour resin into your mold the air inside is forced out; well most of it. Usually, air that gets trapped inside the mold where it can cause voids and miss-cast parts. So, we have to add vents to the model. These can either be setup before the rubber is poured or cut in afterward. I usually cut vent holes in afterward (a tutorial for another time). For this model I'm pre-planning the sprues using styrene rods brass rods, styrene sheet, and a hot glue-gun.

A couple of quick points, the white tab at the bottom in two pieces of 2.0 mm styrene sheet glued together. It’s important because it serves as both a large fill hole and vent. It along with the brass rods create a void space for any trapped air bubbles to go. I use styrene rod of various diameters, to create vents. Simply cut them to size, and use a light to heat them so you can bend to make complex shapes. You can use aluminum wire but honestly, styrene is both cheaper and easier to handle especially at this size. You can also use hardened hot glue to create connecting vents between smaller parts. I'll use hot glue when we get to the setting up the sprues for the wings; where there are lots of places to trap air particularly in the longer feathers.


Next up: Mold Boxes

Seekers:

We'll get to mold box, but first I want to post the final sculpt for my Seeker mounts. This is as far as I itend to take it before I cast it.
I'll then detail the casts and reposition them into alternate poses.


Comments and critiques are appreciated.

I gotta say this is just awesome to watch. fantastic work.

BTW, about how much pro-create comes in one of those packages? I can't find a place where they give me an easy to understand amount, and wondered how long the bars are and how big around?

great work there love the conversion on the FW KOS looks fantastic

i think this is a amazing conversion

Oh no, the pictures are broken (damn photobucket). Try uploading them to the dakka gallery.

(edit: Splel cehck)

Building the Mold Boxes:

Okay basic casting Equipment:

Pouring the rubber:

Here's the test model for my Furies. Yeah they suck, but they fit with the theme. I'll probably just use them in higher point games or in Apocalypse. I freely admit that I stole the idea of using hero-clix Hawkman wings from a member of the very board! But then art is 99% "borrowing" other peoples good ideas... Not to worry though I have three different wing variants and will repose all 12 models.


Here's also a shot of some daemonettes, all 80 will recieves some kind of conversion....madness I know.

I was flipping through my WHF Role-playing game books today and saw this. I'm thinking Slaaneshi Soulgrinder?


What say you all?


I also need some color scheme ideas. All I've got so far are I want the Gluttons to be pastel blue, like the Genie from Aladdin. Covered in splatted blood ofcourse. So, hit me up with your idea, all thoughts are welcome.

absolutely beautiful. I only wish my slaanesh army could be this alluring. ^^

Basing:

At the moment I have several conflicting ideas:

Seven Deadly Sins:

one is themed bases representing the 7 rings of Slaanesh realm that represent the Seven Deadly sins. The army already represents the this in its units: ie. Gluttons for Gluttony, Slayers for Anger, Daemonettes for Lust, the Keeper for Pride, etc. Greed could be represented by a blinged up Soul grinder and the other two should be to hard to get in there either.

Fall of the Eldar:

The other idea was to use Eldar ruins or the Webway to theme the bases. This one appeals to me because honestly their just isn't enough Eldar representation in my area, and I just love the background. I wouldn't have dead Eldar strewn everywhere though as I think having dead units on bases is tacky.

Warpgate:

This is based on a statue sculpted by Frederick Hart call "EX-Nilo" (From Nothing). The base would be swirling gates with writhing daemonic body and part rising up from the base. The Keeper might have an arched portal behind that its stepping through.

Imperial Cathedral:

Basically, the bases would represent a daemonic incursion of a Ministronium Basilica. I could use chopped bits of the Basilica model.



I my head they all look great, so I'm asking for opinions.

* Here's a pic of Ex-Nilo for reference.

if you are going to choose the fall of the eldar you should make their gems look like they where cracked open i thought the chaos lord did that in the dark crusade campaign to gain slaneesh favor or something
(sorry for my bad english)

I'll vote against the Imperial Cathedral, mostly because it seems the least imaginative of the alternatives. I think the Eldar ruins could be stunningly beautiful and complement the models.

The seven sins could be very colourful and leave a lot of room for extravagant creativity, but with a risk of loosing the unified look of an army. Balancing those two is of course a challenge worthy of your skills.

There is seriously too much talent on display with this post casting miniatures is definitely something I want to do
and this inspires me even more so

I second Mellon, the Imperial cathedral ruins would be too easy for your talent! Plus its such a generic theme, these models deserve something a little more unique.

I'm split between the Fallen Eldar and Seven Deadly Sins themes, you could combine them as I assume that the nature of the Eldars fall did mimic the seven sins. I really admire the Eldar theme due to the basis in the background, and that this is the first I've seen of it being put into use in a modeling sense.

I really like your work, the FW KOS conversion is very nice as are the others. My only foible is with the size of the breasts, a little too big IMO, but its purely personal taste!

I can't wait to see these models painted, Keep up the inspiring work!

This thread is awesome. Great work so far man. Keep it up.

Wow! I would love to play against this army!...well okay, I'd be as terrified as my troops!

Thanks for putting all of the step-by-step material in about modeling these miniatures, I'm not sure I can use it myself but it certainly is interesting to see how you do it. The models look great. I like how you're going for that twisted-but-intriguing look that I feel best represents Slaanesh demons. I'm really looking forward to this whole forces being built.

Good work man!

Not sure on the gluttons though - a bit ugly

Really enjoying the molding run through so far, it's not something I'll probably ever do but it's way cool to see the process. Also, your hawkman harpies/furies are quite excellent, even if not sculpted from scratch I'm always impressed by how nice plastic demonettes look with a proper pair of breasts added back on ...

- Salvage

wow look great

The Ex-Nilo bases run the risk of being a bit OTT and distracting from the models themselves. Fall of the Eldar bases sound great though.

I'd love to discuss the moulding process with you, you appear to use a hell of a lot more stuff then I do!

I'm also intreaged by the one part mould, I've always made mine in two sections!

I vote Eldar fall, simple, elegant and direct, the way this army is and should continue. I feel like all the rest would definetely detract from the models themselves which would be a crime, a CRIME I TELLS YA! Anyways, excellent, excellent work.

I'm no mold expert but I have done some. Always interested to learn more though. I have a couple of questions.

So I'm guessing you are going to slice the molds open with a razor to remove your masters? I'm not skilled enough to do this and keep a pristine parting line. How do you plan to keep the halves aligned when it comes time to cast?

Some of your risers from the "deep" part of the mold also intersect the mold higher up (some of your wings for example). Doesn't this allow casting material into your riser on the top side and potentially block bubbles from the deep end where you want them removed?

Wow, amazing work so far.

Beamo: Procreate comes in rectangular foil wrapped bars each about 3-inches long. If you by this stuff keep it in the freezer if it get to warm it will stike to the foil and be hard to cut up.

Delfabs: Thanks, I still have a bit more work to do on her.
Levi: Thanks man.

Karoline Dianne: Thanks! I'd still like to see your army though, I certain its gorgeous as well.

Gennadius: That sir is a brilliant idea! Shattered and fused soul stone strew about, daemonettes holding aloft freshly plucked gems. Hmmm... I don;t like dead bodies on bases by perhaps some crack or long abandoned eldar armor?

Mellon: Those are good points, especially about keeping a unified theme for the army. I'm strongly leaning toward the Eldar Fall idea...crumbling eldar ruins. I was thinking about making at least one daemon princess based of a fallen Eldar Seer anyway. Time to get writing some fluff.

Unite All Action: I'm glad you find this thread inspiring; I know so many hear and elsewehe and here have and continue to inspire and humble me. We'll be getting pretty deep into the casting thing, it really can be simple and relatively cheap to do!

Mohaniker: Well I do know of at least two armies using or planning to use the 7 deadly sins theme. Okay you've sold me, Fallen Eldar it is. I want it to be be unique and challenging and this should be I'm just torn on whether to do a Craftworld interior or a Maiden World setting.

Apone: Thanks!

Accolade: Thanks for the feedback. I'm posting my methods in the hope that it will save someone else from making the same costly mistakes I did. As they say its easy when you no how. So, please if you have any questions post them I'll do my best to answer them.

Namegoshere: Thanks, the gluttons are supposed to be ugly, it helps balance the more elegant daemonettes and princesses.

Boss_Salvage: It always amazes me how GW decied to go with the single breast, they would sell so many more if not for that. I love the new Daemonettes except for that and molded loincloths which make converting a pain..

Pcon426: Thanks man.

The Lost Hobbit: Yeah I suppose your right the Ex-nilo style bases would be to busy. I might still do it as a terrain piece though.

Druidic: I you have questions just ask I'll be happy to explain my process. You don't need all that gear but honestly is saves loads of time and effort. The single pour mold with the jewelers cut is far superior to the two part mold in my humble opinion. It simple to do, takes half the time and the parts come out with virtually no flash! not to worry I'll be demo how to do it soon.

Gamesandwatch: It seems "Eldar Fall" is the winner. I'll have to study my Eldar Codei as reference.

Asmith:

So I'm guessing you are going to slice the molds open with a razor to remove your masters? I'm not skilled enough to do this and keep a pristine parting line. How do you plan to keep the halves aligned when it comes time to cast?

I use a "worm key" and the jeweler cut technique on my molds. It provide lots of registration to align the mold halves together, the cuts are not uniform but a wave pattern. To keep the halves aligned just sandwich them between to pieces of foam core or styrene and rubberband them together.

Some of your risers from the "deep" part of the mold also intersect the mold higher up (some of your wings for example). Doesn't this allow casting material into your riser on the top side and potentially block bubbles from the deep end where you want them removed?

That is a good question. If I was just pouring resin I would only allow the riser to have a single point of contact. When, I've pressue cast the molds like this in the past I haven't had a problem, it probably helps that I inject the resin as well. But you've talked me into changing my venting scheme, these are going to be large models and I dare not waste resin it I can help it. Thanks for the input.

Ozymandias: Thanks.




Okay guys I'll be uploading some new design sketches for nearly all the units as well and some pose ideas. I also hope to get lots of casting done this weekend and to start a proper sculpting tutorial on my new Male KOS. More soon...

Interesting, I look forward to that!

I couldn't find a good description of "worm key" online, Id be interested in seeing some detail on both the worm key and the alignment features when you get that far in your molding. Some pictures or description as you are doing the slicing would be great as well.

Thanks alot for posting this process online, very interesting so far.

Progress!


cutting the Molds:

I'll be getting deep into this later as I've draw up diagrams and everything.

The tools:

A scalpel a #12 curved blade. Buy a box or two of non-sterile carbon blades they're much cheaper. The curved blade will make this technique super-easy and virtually fool proof.




Surgical retractors, got these new off ebay for $20, the name brand one can run as high as $200 or more!



Cutting stuff!





Here's a neat idea to held with the cutting. Push extra long stick pins thru the mold box until the graze the models surface. Make sure you take each pin with a dab of hot glue to that 1. they don't move, and 2. so silicon rubber doesn't leak out the mold box.





The Original cut out of the mold:




The mold:



The Pressure Pot:




A close up on eht lid of my heavily modded pressure pot. I'll explain this bad boy in detail later; but it started life as a $39.00 Harbor Freight paint pot.



The resin filled molds in the pot:





Resin Daemon Princess parts:















Resin Parts for Furies and Gorgons:

Wow... you make it look so simple! And the models are aboslutely gorgeous.

I would suggest on the gluttons to make them into the furies? take the torso and make it limbless, bloodlily limbless, then add those wings?

any chance that a few casts are up for sale?
amazing work, the moulds are great, the level of detail is possibly the best ive seen

Mellon:

It is when you know how! The trouble is finding the right information. I've fortunately met many wonderful and helpful people online and picked their brains about molding & casting. That's why I'm posting this, to share what I've learned. Got a question? I will do my best to answer it.


Nenya97:

Hmmm...Furies are pretty worthless anyway, I was only adding them for modeling and fluff sake. If they'fe in the list just for the models then they ought to be hot winged daemon chicks, I say.

JD21290:

I'll have to look into selling a few casts, I only need three, but it'd be a shame to just let the molds sit idle. Honestly, I never thought anyone would be interested in buying one. I have to get the heads and alternate arms done first anyway. But if anyone is interested PM me and let me know.

Ehehehe, as with everything else then :-)

At the moment my casting skills is ot the spot where I'm learning to do greenstuff moulds of small decorations. So this far I'm doing allright with what I can pick up from guides. But I'll keep you in mind when (rather than if) I start casting stuff properly and run into trouble.

Mellon:

Small one part molds huh? I can run through some info on that. I started out with a hand kneaded silicon rubber that you can get and Michaels and Hobby Lobby on the cheap. You can get very good results from it but you really need to cut the mold for the best results.

Okay I've got several small piles of wings, and 3 freshly minted daemon princesses. I also have my steeds and seeker mounts ready. So their will be many posts this weekend.

Anyway here are some design sketches:

For one of the Princesses:

I'm no going for them to be Chaos based. I want them to be more Eldar-ish. One might even be a corrupted Eldar Farseer, or Dark Eldar Lord for instance.



Here is the head that I finally decided on, it similar to the FW Keeper but different enough to be unique, I think. Any I want all of them to have unique heads. Maybe something in a long and cone shaped head???



Here is a possible armor idea. With, Slaanesh is all about the tounges afterall.



Here is a possible soul grinder upper torso.



The idea I had here is that sharks seem Slaaneshi; long, sleek, fast, and vicious. So the clamps that would hold the daemons torso to the mechanical body would be biting shark heads biting down into the legs and crotch... To sick? To tame? Let me know.

Now about those Soul Grinders mechanical parts, I've been holding off buying them because they're kinda ugly and generic looking. Since this army is now more Eldar-ish than Imperal I'm thinking about just scratch building one base on the Eldar design, i.e. long and slender legs, and smooth flowing curves. So, if their are any Eldar players following this thread I'd love some input please.


Further:

Any thoughts on having daemonettes leading around chained gluttons on chains with Hannibal Lector style muzzles?


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I think the shark idea is wonderful. It does fit perfectly. Too often I see Slaanesh players focusing on the sex bit and not on the sleek, fast and sensual sides.

This is an incredible thread, I have to echo others' comments that it's very inspiring. I want to sculpt a Slaaneshi Daemon prince/alternate Keeper of Secrets when I'm done with my current projects, and your Princesses are making me want to push my "main" army onto the back burner.

I do have to ask, why did you choose to cast single-piece moulds and then cut rather than using dummy moulds and casting in halves? You'd gain the advantage of being able to have mould keys, as well as not needing to cut perfectly down the middle of incredibly fine parts like the wings (which I know I'd screw up if I tried...). Admittedly, as someone without a pressure pot to cast in, I've ended up getting very stuck in my Japanese-style ways for casting.

GlauG wrote:
I do have to ask, why did you choose to cast single-piece moulds and then cut rather than using dummy moulds and casting in halves? You'd gain the advantage of being able to have mould keys, as well as not needing to cut perfectly down the middle of incredibly fine parts like the wings (which I know I'd screw up if I tried...). Admittedly, as someone without a pressure pot to cast in, I've ended up getting very stuck in my Japanese-style ways for casting.

There are several compelling reasons use single piece molds:

1. Its fast as you don't have to mix and pour the silicon rubber twice. If the rubber you use take 24 hours to cure as most of the quality stuff does, then a cut mold will save you a whole day.

2. A cut mold has far better registration, that is to say far, far more keys than a two part mold. When you cut the mold you don't simply cut a straight line down to the model; you cut down in layers and zig-zag the blade back and forth slightly. Done right when you put the mold back together it locks tight; you should even be able to tell its cut! If you want even more registration you can include a worm key.

3. A cut mold is far more accurate that a two part mold. When you build a clay wall you introduce errors to you cast. The clay bed is never completely smooth and so the to half never fit together precisely. Which is why two-part molds often have lots of flash on their casts. With a cut mold it goes back together so well, the first several or so cast have no flash, and on the later ones the flash is so fine you can blow it off.

4. Cutting is incredibly easy. Mind you the wings you see here were more difficult to cut than most models would be with this technique. You just start cutting at the sprues and follow the model. If you use retractors like I do its very easy to see where to cut, and perfect accuracy is not necessary anyway. With many models you might not even need to cut the mold completely in half to get the master out. If you can do that you'll get an even better reproduction.


I hope this helps.

Oh yeah, several people have asked what a worm key is.


A worm key is cut with a special curved blade you can by them special made like this (they're quite expensive by the way):



Or you can simply make your own from an x-acto or scalpel blade by heating it and bending it around a brass rod, fixed in a vise like this (cheap!):



You only use it to make your outer most cuts, like so:



After you make your worm cut you just do a zig-zag cut down until you reach the model.

Sersi wrote:(sniphelpfuladvice)
I hope this helps.

I'll have to give it a try again sometime soon then. Thanks!

Wow, just wow. I wish I had something more to say but I'm stunned.

Daemon Princess New Stuff!

Here are some shot of the fully assembled princess model. Its resin tinted gray...ooohhh. Since I don't want 3 identical models I'm currently hacking apart two of them to repose. They will also be separated by their armor, weapons, number of arms, number of breasts, and heads.

















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Okay here is my first altered pose.

Just a few words on techniques and materials. The best way to chop up plastic or resin minatures is to use a straight edge razor. You can get a box of a 100 for a $1-2. Just go to the paint section of Walmart a buy a holder, again it cost like $2. You can get beautifully clean guilotine-like cuts, that you could never get with an x-acto knife; without the hazardous resin dust that results from sawing. I prefer to use copper wire to pin as its strong and still flexible, again Walmart for under a dollar for 26ft. My putty of choice is Aves either classic Aves Sculpt or Fixit Sculpt tinted with Paine's Grey oil paint to taste. It's can do anything that green stuff or milliput can, and it far cheaper.

In case your wondering the fin on the back was from a quick mold off the steed of Slaneesh.



























Let me know me what how you like the pose. The right arm will be holding a sword or whip, not sure on that really.



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Just thought I'd throw up some scale comparison shots...and well cause group shots of monstrous creatures just look cool.


The Charlie's Angles Shot:



All the girls together:

So, I finally cast up all the wings that I need for my conversions, and got most of my Fury unit converted up, 8 down 4 more to go. I may still change up the poses a little and reposition the wings on a few of them.

Various cast wings:







Furies in Progress:

Blimey. I've just found this thread and caught up with it. This has got to be one of the most completely realised and well executed scratchbuild armies I've seen. Well done on the beautiful work!

Mind blowing.
Simply Mind Blowing

Daemon Princess Updates:

I've got the second daemon princess' weapon figured out. The spear point is from the Dark Elf Range in fantasy, the Slaanesh symbol on the ended is a daemonette icon with the skull drilled out, The rope is twisted 26 gauge brass wire. the banner was cut from a heavy metal foil taken from tea-light candles.

You can find them at Walmart in the candle section.





The wings are pinned on (i may or may not switch to magnets); but will be removable in case I'm low on point and run them without wings.

I really like this pose and may create new molds in case I decide to a few.





















Scale comparison with the FW Keeper:






Comments and critiques are as always most welcome.

Here are some status pictures on my pleasureseekers {count as fiends):

I decided to mount Pegasus wings on them. I justify them with the fact that they have hit and run, and that the wings fit the theme I seem to have going. I'm currently working on the riders, who will be equipped with dark elf lances, and shields based of the . the mounts will sport bridles fashioned out of modeling chain.

I also did a little work on the Count as Skarbad model. I cut the legs to make him a bit taller, and to reposition the pose:




















The Work continues....

Equipped my Furies with Dark Elf spears and swords...

Some scaling shots and total army shots:



This is most of the miniatures that will be used in this army:




And here a picture showing the scale of unit sizes:











More later....

Okay, Ive got some ideas that i need to feedback on:


Bases:

I decided some post back to go with a basing theme centered around the fall of the Eldar. I'm thinking of doing something based on this image:



Since I think that having dead Eldar lying around would be tacky, how about some topple and shattered Eldar statures and spires? Maybe some thing similar to this:



I'd use actual Eldar runic script of course. I could sculpt the statues cast them in plaster and then break them up. Or just buy some bit and paint them like marble. It could look kind of like ancient ruins of a Craftworld, still echoing with the horrors of the "Fall".



Poses:

I am still trying to decide on poses for the daemon other two daemon princesses, so i dug into my anime garage kit sites for these:













Soulgrinders:

After much thought I've decided to just scratch-build and sculpt these. For what I want to do with them there is no real point in modifying a existing model. I'd be making so many changes that it would waste time rather than save it. If someone could provide rough figures on the lengtha and width of the mechanical body, that would be most helpful.

Seekers:

I've been waiting for more resin to come in from smooth-on. If should arrive today so you can expect ridiculous amounts of seeker to be posted up.



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@sersi , since you have very good cast for wings , why not make some in actual flying pose?

Awesome!

And thanks for the details on casting - always great to see such beautiful sculpts come to life.

Absolutely stunning and inpsirational work. Truly Outstanding. Thanks for sharing and the tutorials.

Good choice on eldar fall bases. Id go with broken statues crumbling ruins. Its epic and classy.

As for poses, I like the first girl in purple. I know its the more difficult pose but I dont doubt youll pull it off. That pose hints at something of violence and sensual. Come close to me and see what happens...

This plog is amazing.
You have a wonderfully-themed army here, bristling with outstanding and creative conversions.

Your "fallen Eldar" concept for the bases sounds great.

And I love -- really love -- the posing on the first daemon princess.

fantastic work, can't wait to see this finally painted. Also, the second and third pose pictures aren't showing up for me. Might be my browser at work tho.

Added some new posed examples...

Some how I shouldn't be surprised that some Ikki tousen figs showed up here, but I like the last two poses myself.

I think arm-blading one of the princess would give some nice separation between them as they're mostly longer swords and spears, it'd give her a bit more brutal look which'd be a nice off set.

I can't see the last batch of pictures.

Sorry, I meant I updated the previous post.

I've been meaning to post these up for about a week now. I got caught up on a comission, oh and converting 80 or so daemonettes into new posed and equiping them with alternate weapons. Ah well....

So, here is Daemon Princess #2. I've working on the fluff for the army, but I haven't named the individual daemons yet. For the Pose I went with a more dynamic pose that the Anime one I was considering before.




















She's still far from done.

Things to do:[u/]

1. Sculpt second set of arms.
2. Finish her head
3. Start working on her armor
4. Sculpt the extra breasts
5. Sculpt the loin cloth
6. Add the chains


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Here's a my first Pleasureseeker with rider. I have 12 of these things/ I'm still working on the riders which are a pain in the @#$!! to get posed just right. I may have to re-think the wing positioning though, as moving the wings back, makes the placement of the rider far easier.




















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There still some additional kit to go on this one:

1. Sculpt the breasts on the rider.
2. GS sculpt a flowing loin cloth.
3. Add a flowing sash using heavy foil.
4. Clean up some mold lines.
5. ???
6. Profit!




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Some Fury Updates:

These were pretty straight forward to do, but turned out rather nice. I bits ordered a bunch of WHF Dark Elf weapons and arms; they work great with very little in the way of modification required. I basically just chopped off a few daemonette claws and used Plastic-Weld to melt on the new weapon hand.

Here's a couple group shots:












Fury #1

The whip that this girlie is carrying is just some twisted 26 gauge brass wire for the whip, and 0.1 mm brass rod for the handle.















Fury #2

This fury has a Dark Elf horn, which is far more effective look wise that the monstrosity that the box comes with. The regular damonette instruments I cut the ends off them and use them as heads for my Emperor's Children, instead.

















Fury #3




















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A couple of Group shots of the Monstrous Creatures:






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And here are a few group shots of my WIP Pleasureseekers:












Later!

Looking great! Any ideas on when they'll see some paint? Also, what else do you have to do for the army?

Well I just recieved my new 72 pot Vallejo Game Color set, and the GW wash set yesterday. So, I plan to get a few test minis done by the weekend, after I figure out the color schemes for the various units I prime and base coat them with an air brush.


As far as how much more needs to be done for the army, well....:


Daemon Princesses:

1. Finish sculpting the basic head
2. Sculpt the Brown stuff armor.

These will be done this week for sure!

Gluttons:

Done!

Daemonettes:

Done!

FW Keeper of Secrets:

Done!

Furies:

Done!

Slayers: "Count as Bloodletters"

I haven't started yet but honestly the conversion is very straight forward. I'll finish these up this week.

1. Cut the limbs and use styrene inserts to upscale them.
2. Swap out their claws with Darl Elf weapons

Seekers:

1. I just need to build the mold, and cast them.
2. The riders need minor conversion work, weapon swaps mostly.

Pleasureseekers:

These need a bit of work, mostly on the riders.

Soulgrinders:

These are going to be scratchbuilt, so lots of work remains. I just finished drawing up the templates for the mechanical parts in Adobe Illustrator. So, I should be getting started on those this weekend. I haven't started sculpting the jiggly daemonic bits yet.

KOS "Counts as Skarbad":

No progress. I could probably get him done in a day, I just need to make the time.



So, the vast majority is ready for painting, but we still have a way to go.


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This army is awesome. I really love what you've done so far. I'm looking forward to seeing how the Slayers and Soul Grinders turn out and seeing the whole army painted.

This project is beyond professional modelling, this type of thread brings old players back in, and new ones to start modelling themselves. Truely inspiring, bring on the Soul Grinder

wow

Alright here's the third and final Daemon Princess:


Pose Block-in:









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The pose more refined:

Both of the upper arms are pull back and will be holding swords, angled outward from the body.


























So...cool, Not cool, bleeping slowed? This princess will have optional wings as well, I''' just heat the tips in hot water and bend them out outward as though they're resting on the ground. Pics on that later....


Oh and I finished the riders for the Pleasureseeker! More later!

I like this pose, it's like she is just about to pounce.

For a super-dynamic low pose, I might have put one of the upper hands on the ground, the other arm fully back, with the claws pulled back. This would require more of a torso twist and a knee on the ground, something very different from what you've sculpted. It would be tightly-coiled and explosive.

I have to say Sersi, Im not convinced with the arm positions on the new FDP, it is all to cramped together and though those arms work well for the others, this whole model is so drastically different from the others that maybe its time to sculpt brand new arms just for this girl. Like one arm cocked back, the other crossing the chest, as if she is about to deal a lethal blow with the cocked back arm...

Topographic Oceans:
Thanks, I was going for a heavy landing, maybe perched on a high-ish base looking down.

JohnHwangDD:

I considered a pose with the hand on the ground but thought it was to close to the crouching Princess with the spear. I might not not be getting my idea across to well. The pose is supposed to look like she just complete a double sword slach attack, with the blades ending up behind her...I might need to re-think that. Thanks for the imput.

Gameandwatch:

I really appriciated the hard crit. I've been trying to get this to work on and off and the hand just aren't right and the left leg isn't convincing. I'll work on combing your and JohnHwangDD ideas. So, new arms and claws...soon... Thanks! Sometimes you just need someone to tell to stop being a lazy git.

Awesome

Un-Fricking-Real.

Top marks friend, you are truly talented.

Okay, as promised here are the group shots of the Pleasureseekers:

I fully admit to cheating on these riders. You'll notice that the leg and bodies of the riders are an off white color compared to the GW bits. I converted two models and cast them legs of one and the body of the other. These aren't quite done yet...






































Things yet to do:

1. I'll need to dip their legs in hot water so I can position the legs to more closely for the side of the steed.

2. I need to GS some flowing loincloths on them similar to the old mounted daemonettes but longer and more dynamic.

3. I still have to assemble the last three, but they';ll be done today.

No saddles for these girls, bare back all the way.


Closeups!:















































There are close ups of each Pleasureseeker in my gallery under "Pleasureseekers" for those that are interested. Link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-search.jsp?p=1&u=12186&g=2767&ll=3&auction=0&unapproved=0&coolnesslow=0&coolnesshigh=10&paintjoblow=0&paintjobhigh=10&sort1=7&sort2=0&skip=30&en=&st=&utype=&start=0


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Started work on the princesses armor yesterday, so I'll be posting that later but first: my last three pleasureseekers.







and...





also...





Since, I have a few extra cast of crouching daemonettes mounted one on the base of my Glutton Champion. It also occurred to me last night that since the gluttons are on a 40 mm base and freaking huge; I could use them as "counts as" Bloodcrushers! 12 bloodcrushers in a single unit would definitely draw fire off my girls, far more that some plague bearers....hmmm...





Anyway I like the idea of having a few tiny by comparison daemonettes on the Glutton bases. Maybe one riding on a gluttons shoulders and pointing at the enemy, or chicken fighting.





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Muahahahah, you have to do the riding deamonette now, you said so must DO IT!! lol, can't wait to see that, and yeah def use them as counts as crushers, plagues are like same size as deamonettes, oh and instead of gluttons you could call them... BLOOD GORGERS!!! haha, cant wait for more....

I can't wait to see these things painted.

So I'm into the home stretch on the Daemon Princess models, and well into sculpting armor and detailing the figures. Before I show picture of that work I wanted to show some work I've done on them to get them ready for possible production.

Before casting these for sale I wanted to get them super clean, and get them ready for new production molds. The first thing to do then was to design a easy way to assemble the models together without the need to pin anything. Just some super-glue or 5-minute epoxy and your done. I ended up using square brass tubes cut and fit to act as plugs/and sockets. These are strong and have the added bonus of not allowing the parts to rotate out of position, like round pins do. Once the parts are cast the actual plugs and sockets will be resin, of course but the effect is the same.

So I started out by carefully boring out the parts, starting with smaller drill bits and working up to the appropriate sized hole. I also drew guidelines on the model to ensure that everything lined up after the tubes and putty had set.







Here is the socket set into the hips.





And here is the tube system in place.





Here the sockets in action. this should make casting easier since the pose is so much more dynamic that the original sculpt. I'll be adding either a belt of a sash to mask the join when assembled. You could also just saw off the plug and install magnets instead.






I also created a similar plug/socket system for the arms and wings:











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Okay so here's where I am on the running princesses' armor/clothing...



















I went with the studded stockings that the old metal school daemonettes used to wear; the arm length glove on the opposite side will have similar studs and flesh hooks. I used Aves to sculpt the clothing and straps and brown stuff putty for the studs. Rolling the Aves out flat with some talc was a new technique for me, as I'd didn't expect it to stick very well to the model afterward. But a light brushing of alcohol and it stuck on just fine. In fact the talc-ed putty was far more controllable that the brown stuff was.

I just need for go back and add some additional rolls of putty to make the wrinkles, around the joints and stress points.
she needs some additional studs as well.


Here's the crouching princesses' armor/clothing...

Lower body armor first:
















I decided to go with pleated armor on the legds, shins and hips. She'll also have armored shoulder pads. I used brown stuff putty for this to try it out. I can see that I won't be using it much in the future as Aves can do anything it can; drying harder and smoothing easiers
I started on the upper body armor with Aves instead.











I also added some copper ringlets and chains to decorate the claws.






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Gameandwatch:

So it's been written, so shall it be!


Topographic Oceans:

On paint I ordered some new fine tips for my airbrush, so when the time comes: priming, base coating, and perhaps even some shading should go quickly. In any casae I'm sure you'll all tell me if I'm screwing them up.

Looking fantastic sersi, the only crit I will make is that I see piercings as a much understated use of slaaneshi demons, as well as tatoos, instead of armoring one demon princess' torso maybe you could like tatoo a shoulder, and add subtle piercings to the face... just some thoughts!!

Their WILL definitely be more piercings, and tatoos are a lock. One question though should they have belly buttons?

Sersi wrote:Their WILL definitely be more piercings, and tatoos are a lock. One question though should they have belly buttons?

Yes! Its something else to pierce.

Agreed, do like the belly buttons

Still working on the armor & clothing such as it is

Princess #1

















Close ups on princess #2. It the top of her arm length glove, the copper ring and pierced flesh still needs to be added as well as the Brown stuff studs.






So whats next for Princess #1.

Well, I'll be leaving the shoulders abdomen and back clear for tattoos and carved in Slaaneshi characters. I also will be redoing the loincloth as its to short and to wide for my tastes. I'm also considering adding some piercing and chains to the wings.

Princess #2















Some closeups of the armor bits on princess #2.

Still a bit rough as they are being built up slowly and sanded carved into shape.






What's next for Princess #2:

Her leg and shoulder armor will attached to her skin with chains and piercings. Fixing some issues with the anatomy of the shoulders and right upper arm. I also want to make the clavicles and Sterno-mastoid muscle more. prominent. Basically tighten up the anatomy. The holes you see in the crab claw will have copper rings piercing them as well as chains with dangling human skulls. I'm also considering adding some stomach armor and second set of breasts.


Comments and crits would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking.



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Beautiful work! Love the poses, love the legs, love the wings... Did I mention I love the legs?

You've managed to make the whole of this army look detailed without looking too busy. Keep that asthetic! As long as you choose a harmonious color scheme, this army cannot fail but be incredible to look at.

Arkion:

Thank you for your comments. Your correct aesthetics and theme were why I wanted to do this army. If nothing else it will be unique.

Okay more armor updates. Were getting close now...

Princess # 1

Added straps to hold the leg armor to her pierced flesh, and clipped straight pin heads to serve as rivets.



I'm not sure about the rivets as they maybe to large. I also still need to add the straps to the left leg. Comments please?



Here's a close up of the shoulder armor, it still need some more sanding and shaping to round it out. I'm thinking about adding two addition segments to make the armor look more flexible. I also added some copper rings piercing to the claw arm they still need to be fixed in place with super glue.



The shoulder armor is loosely based off this design.



I also added a ankle bracelet and snapped chain.




Here's a close up of the back area:

The should armor is also held of with piercings.







Here the how the piercing for the legs and torso look together.



And finally the front of the torso. Here I added a second pair of breasts. The will be a pleated breast plate covering the abdomen and pushing up on the breasts. Basically the concept is this daemonette model scaled up.



Here's the front of the torso so far. The circular plate covering the join in the straps of the shoulder harness will bear a Slaanesh symbol.



and finally a couple of beauty shots:










Okay more armor updates. Were getting close now...

Princess # 2

Allot less work was required to get this girl looking good. Started on the studs for the arm. I still need to workout how the materials attaches at the clawed end. I'll probably use a some kind of rivet, rather than a ring through flesh style piercing. I also adding some additional copper rings to the left claw.



I cleaned up the edges of the arm and leg bracelets seen here:



And here: Also note the belly button piercing. I may change the belly to a finer wire ring.




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Princess #3

She's needing the most work but I plan to get her done today. I've again changed the pose base on feedback given here. She in now in a landing pose with one hand flat on the ground supporting. I haven't decided whether or not to bring back the second set of arms yet, and currently she has to humanoid hands rather than claws. the right hand will probably be clutching a sword with a curved blade.









I have no idea how i want to armor this one so suggestions would be appreciated



More later....I'm casting 26 seeker mounts today!

OK, to answer your first question, I think the leg armor on P1 looks great and distinctive compared to the others, the final straps with a ring attached to the flesh is an a great theme for that specific model, you just need to add the flesh to ring portion which of course you know. Otherwise, a brazier type deal, scaling up that demonette will look great, yet another great concept to work from.

P2 is definetly my fav, I just love how the stockings with the sectioning reminds me of harlequins and directly corrolates to the eldar, which is PERFECT for a Slaaneshi army. Too often you see slaanesh models with absolutely nothing relating them to their origins, here you are capturing it nicely.

On P3, cant say how I feel yet, Im thinking maybe long flowing back and front loincloth, you know angled up with the theme of her having just hit the ground, and I thikn maybe then this would be your best oppportunity to really have one just tattooed. Other than that keep it up, I know everyone whos following this is beggin for paint..

Awesome stuff man, they're really coming together. And also looking forward to seeing paint on them.

Wow, this is an amazing BLOG. I really appreciate that you are sharing it with us, your talent seems to know no bounds .

I am a big fan of your concept art, really really well done, and understandable.

Truly fantastic pieces. It might just be my broken head, but every time I see your running Princesses I think of bowling... Maybe the last one needs a bowling team shirt?

On a more serious note, I think your segmented armour is the wrong way up. On humans, at least, articulated armour like you've got on the ladies' legs will tend to overlap downward like roof tiles. This is on the assumption that most blows would be coming from above (especially on the legs). A blow coming from above on your stuff would catch on the plates, rather than being deflected away. I guess they are somewhat larger than normal people, but I'm not sure of the parallell doesn't still apply.

Anyway, just being pedantic, so feel free to ignore and continue being awesome

Ah see there ya go being logical.... If I'd done it that way it wouldn't have been spiky, and everyone know chaos should be all about the spiky bits... Seriously though thanks for the critique. Oh, and watch this space we aren't done yet!

I would imagine something like this for the leg armor would work quite well on princess number 3:

this log is just stunning. top marks!

Baaah....work sucks! I haven't spent as much time on this project as of late. But I do have a few updates.


Keeper of Secrets:

I finished sculpting the hand and whip on the keeper of secrets. I need to re-sculpt the nipples on the breasts as the scale is wrong. I also need to add some more studs to the back of her leg and on her newly sculpted hand & arm.

Well I havn't really had a good propper look at this blog for a long time, and I must say the modelling work is stunning ! These models are look really nice ! They have a really nice look to them !

Thanks Wolf!

I got a few more mods to show off:


Daemon Princess #1









A few detail shots:

Here's the back of the torso armor. It's intended to be some kind of leather, so it will be getting some texturing work



Here you can see the front of the shoulder armors rigging. I still need to add a few buckles and add a Slaanesh symbol to the disc. I'll probably glue a thin piece of styrene tubing to a raise edge to the disc.



Here's a better shot of the shoulder armor. I'll be drilling small holes into the individual plates, and then filling them with small balls of harden putty to make recessed rivets.

In this picture and the next you can see the side of the torso armor. I've drilled small holes along the split between the front and back plates with a pin vise. Later on I'll added the putty laces that hold the armor in place. I may even add a bow!



Her you can see the broken chains, made out of model ship anchor chain, copper wire, and Aves. In a way it mirrors the detail work on the FW KOS.



This arm guard is pretty much done other that scribing in some details, to make it look ornate.






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Daemon Princess #2

She is a hair away from being done... She's awaiting her new head and hair, but other than that she just needs a few more brown stuff studs and some scribing work on her are and leg bracelets, and I'll call the sculpting on this one done.



I re-sculpted the nipples larger as it was pointed out the they were out of scale. Hopefully I didn't over compensate to much?













Details on the Loin cloth:

I abandoned doing the loincloth in GS, it was to flexible and didn't hold its shape good enough. Here's the new start of the loincloth in blessed Aves, rolled out with talcum powder.



I then built up the wrinkles and folds with rolls of Aves.











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Daemon Princess #3

The idea hear is that she is wearing a leather-like ensemble made of Eldar skins: Including leggings, gloves, bikini bottom and some er... leather strappy things. Anyway I need to add some additional copper rings and straps. She still needs a head of course, and a bit of light sanding.

- I like the sword, but I'm not sure about its length. So, opinions please.

- I plan to extend the leggings at their tops and add some laces crossing the butt.

- I plan on leaving a good amount of flesh exposed for tattoos and such.

- I'll also decorate here with captured spirit stones.







In this shot you can see the mounting holes for her wings. I just need to boil some water, and bend the wings so that they spread out along the ground. I may just sculpt a new set however.






Details shots on DP #3:




A few early shots of the new arm and hand being sculpted.








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I know what your thinking where's are the freaking heads, and where's the paint. What a slacker!


The truth is that although I've sculpted and computer modeled many heads in the past, I've never done so at this scale. So I kept putting it off and putting it off. But today will be different! I've decided to sculpt some ten practice heads, before shooting for the finished heads. So, here are some shots of this mornings failed attempt.

A basic skull structure has been built up over a ball of Aves putty.



I used a drill to hollow out the eyes sockets. This was mistake because they were neither deep enough or large enough. So, even at his stage things are already off from good proportions. Always use reference kids, it really helps. I'll use my digital calipers on the next one.



Here, I've glued hardened balls of Ave's putty in place to serve as eyes.









Quite a bit of sculpting has gone on to get to hear. Since this is practice I'll leave it as is. But examining this effort there are some serious problems with the heads basic structure. For example the eye sockets were not large enough or deep enough. So the eyes are out of place and it throws the whole thing off.



The horns are also far to small and need to sweep back and over the head.



This is a perfect example of sculpting what you think you know rather what you see. So I'll be digging out my resin skull to study and reference while working on the other practice heads.



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Horrors?!!

Okay this is going to need some explaining. I've been trying to come up with a slanneshi replacement model for horrors. At first I was going to use daemonette heads and torsos with sculpted snake bodies. but I already have lots of nettes' and converted nettes. So what to do? How about a winged flaming snake with a seeker mount head.




Here it is to scale with my custom sculpted raptor-thing /seeker mount TM.



Note that is won't look this stiff when done. Since resin becomes pliable with heat. I'll be able to repose them with a simple dunk in hot water. Meanwhile it easier to sculpt and cast it straight.

Just imagine sculpted flames running along it back and a ridiculously over the top coiled pose...with wings! So what do you all think? Too out there? Too stupid? I'm casting to day so you should see results tomorrow.


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I'm curious to see what your next head attempt will look like. I'm sure I mentioned this over on the B&C but you really ought to sell casts of these princesses-- they're perfect slaaneshi DPs.

Okay, I got some free time today and will be working on bases. But I've got a couple of questions about basing:

1. what size base is a daemon prince on? The ones I'm using currently 90mm, which I assume is a little big.
2. I've seen people use CD's as bases for Greater Daemons, it it legal?
3. What base size are Flamers on?
4. What base size are Blood Crushers and they round bases? I currently have my Gluttons on 40 mm bases.
5. What base size are Fiends on?
6. I'm scratch-building my soul grinders, what' the approximate footprint for a Grinder? I'm guessing 4"X6".

yeah,
I've been following your blog, it's awesome.

1. regular CSM DP is on 40mm, but the nurgle CSM DP is based on 60mm ( I believe )
2. Not really. GD are 60mm based
3. 25mm
4. 60mm
5. square calvalry? but i think you could put them on bikebases to keep the round theme.
6. Grinders can be anything really, with feet pointing straight down it's a tall model but it can fit on a 60mm base.... (this is how people with bendy non glued GS DeepStrike them in! then the stretch legs out to reach combats!) for a scratch build I'd recommend the large oval base for dragons, or if the model is going to be tall like a knight defiler then 60mm seems fair.

The thing to Keep in mind is that with your army being all DS base size is very important, putting bloodcrushers on 40mm bases will most likely raise a few 'modeling for advantage / cheating' eyebrows. Just Ask the Wreaking Crew!

the GW base page --> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1430063

PAnic...

Here at last are some shots of my in progress Wryms of Slaanesh:




































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Resin casts of my sculpted seeker mounts:

In sculpting and art in general its important to no what your doing. Not necessarily the specific techniques you will use although that can be also be very important. But more specifically what are you trying to make? And do you really know what IT looks like. I'm a character modeler in the gaming industry by trade and we almost always have detailed control art before we even start a new model. When people ask my why something is of I always ask where is your reference? So as you might guess I've made tons of detailed studies and rough sketches for the sculpts for this project before I ever got started. I've shown a few before, but here are some of my drawings from the sketchbook dedicated to this project.

My scanners busted so I just used my cameras to take the pics... Apologies for the image quality.





This one is where I'm going with the crouching princes. Swept back horns and tattoos...classy!



Just trying out some ideas.



Same.



Take note of the eldar-ish head the running princess with be either a corrupted Banshee or Harlequin



A leg study for a Count as Soulgrinder.



Another Soulgrinder concept.



A couple of things on this page: the head with the downswept horns will be going on the crouching princess with the spear. I really need to name theses things. The costume and sextuplets breasts are going on the princess #3...er the kneeling princess with the sword.



Detailing on Princess #1



More detailing on Princess #1



Still more detailing on Princess #1



Details for Princess # 2...er...the running one. Basically eldar-ish symbols to scratch into her arm and leg bands. And Eldar keepsakes, like Farseer spirit stones, etc.


Heads are coming along nicely as is the casting on the wyrms and seeker mounts...


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I promised some head progress shots. This is all I have uploaded at the moment, I take some current pic to show later today. The first thing to point out is that these heads are far smaller that the one I posted before. That thing was enormous! These are the correct scale, making the princesses 7 heads tall.

Definitely awesome. The proportions and sense of movement and flow are just excellent.

If I had one complaint, and I feel really silly suggesting this, is that they are not quite androgenous enough. Don't get me wrong, I loves me some daemon women (dated enough at least). I just think that perhaps a bit more of a androgenous bent would make it a little more creepy and daemonic and a little less pin up (a part of me died when I typed "less pin up.")
Just a thought, and I certainly would love it just as much if you completely ignored my suggestion

Head updates. Yes they have chins now!



Daemon Princess #3









Daemon Princess #2







Daemon Princess #1








and....finally!

This looks amazeing so far, a source of inspiration for all Deamon players, fantasy and 40k.

Outstanding work...

With talent such as yours, it's obvious that you've already promised your soul to some dark power.

Gather the torches and pitchforks, fellas--I thinks we's got a witch that needs a-burnin!

Epic group shot there at the end! The ladies are looking fantastic, here's hoping that the heads don't give you any more trouble and pull everything together

@ Wehrkind's demand for androgyny, I say let the corrupted space marines (Empy's Kids) keep the m/f confusion. Ultra-female demons ftw.

- Salvage

Just a quick comment sersi, good buddy, for the grinder you could consider having the gun in the belly almost like a pregnant demon birthing goodness to all those within 36". I think it would still keep with the theme, not be too nurgly in any respect if done right(which can easily be done), and may be a seperate very conflicting sidepiece: Pregnant beautiful machine with...OMG, the stomach! What is that! O-o so yeah, just somethin to think about.

gameandwatch:

Just a quick comment sersi, good buddy, for the grinder you could consider having the gun in the belly almost like a pregnant demon birthing goodness to all those within 36". I think it would still keep with the theme, not be too nurgly in any respect if done right(which can easily be done), and may be a seperate very conflicting sidepiece: Pregnant beautiful machine with...OMG, the stomach! What is that! O-o so yeah, just somethin to think about.

Oh this is good....It puts a very specific image in mind...the scene is Species where in a Gieger-esque Sil gives birth. Sprinkle in a bit of the Queen from Aliens... Thanks for the inspiration bud!

I had also considered a grinder with the cannon hung a little lower even...

Disturbing imagery to follow!

Going off of the pregnant soulgrinder idea, you could have "her" cradling the gun belly, like so--



that would be downright creepy, the maternal feeling eminating from something destructive.

The_Chaplain wrote:Going off of the pregnant soulgrinder idea, you could have "her" cradling the gun belly, like so--



that would be downright creepy, the maternal feeling eminating from something destructive.

You must make it so sersi!
For all that is slaaneshi!

That is an awesome idea! The preggers look would be down right Creepy!

WOW just WOW amazing work. Can't wait to see more

Sersi this project is truly awe inspiring.
From concept art to the actual sculpting work you are raising the bar.

I hope your getting employment from your skills and this isnt just something that festers in your brain during the daily grind.


The pregnant defiler is a pretty harrowing idea, like something out of John Carpenter's "The Thing"

By thunder this is an inspiring blog. I wish I'd found it months ago.

Design sketches for Soulgrinder #1:

So...I've been thinking about the Soul Grinder counts as model, and have decided to go with Gameandwatch's and The_Chaplain's excellent ideas, and came up with um....this wonderfully daemonic homage to motherhood. :lol:



This is the basic idea the engine was formed from the body of an eldar Farseer. Here's the idea engine is a womb where slaaneshi daemons form. An idea stolen from the Ultramarine Omnibus, where the Iron Warriors used grotesquely deformed women to birth new fully grown space marines! Ewe!



And no the tooth maw is not what your thinking... It didn't even occur to me until my wife pointed it out. Still I think it fits for Slaanesh. Disturbing, no?


While looking through online pictures of pregnant women for research I came across, this:



Apparently, its done with a temporary dye called Henna. The important thing is that is got me thinking a painting and intricate Eldar/Slaaneshi design on the belly.

So, anyway that's one of my Soulgrinder ideas. Things to do:

1. The drawing was done to scale so all I have to do is photo-copy it to use as a guide for my armature.
2. The design is not chaotic enough so I'll need to work on some detailing sketches.
3. Since the sculpture is rather large I'll be using gray super sculpey firm and casting the final model.

I need feedback of the design:

- I've drawn her with 8 arms, but as pointed out six would be better for Slaanesh. Which pair of arms should I remove? The ones on the ground supporting her weight have to remain. While the ones cradling her belly are fundamental to the idea.

- It needs some method of movement legs like a defiler, or perhaps a winged dais, or something?

- I've considered have one set of ares either clutching Slaanesh iconography or having sculpted flames coming from the palms of the hands.

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

- How should I represent the Soulgrinder's weapons?

Please be brutal in your critiques, I can take it.

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

Hell, why not both? I don't think it would be too much. Honestly if anyone did have anything against a very softcore S&M theme like that they'd probably take issues with the nudity, too, and of course it's already too late to backtrack on that.

Now if you started sculpting giant horse cocks, or tooth-filled vagin-err...

Anyway, I say it should be mounted on some kind of dais, I like the idea of crab legs more than wings, myself. As for weapons I'd prefer something biomechanical-looking, like a Giger painting. Something that's unmistakeably a gun but with alien-looking tubes or spikes and stuff.

Seriously - this thread is like a clive barker movie.

This work is just gorgeous.

Sidstyler wrote:

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

Hell, why not both? I don't think it would be too much. Honestly if anyone did have anything against a very softcore S&M theme like that they'd probably take issues with the nudity, too, and of course it's already too late to backtrack on that.

Now if you started sculpting giant horse cocks, or tooth-filled vagin-err...

Anyway, I say it should be mounted on some kind of dais, I like the idea of crab legs more than wings, myself. As for weapons I'd prefer something biomechanical-looking, like a Giger painting. Something that's unmistakeably a gun but with alien-looking tubes or spikes and stuff.

Oh, I've been studying my Giger and Brom for ideas. Bio-mechanic weapons seem the way to go. The challenge will be to make is chaotic and alien, yet sexy at the same time. I think your right on the S&M themes, having gone this far there is no good reason to shy away now. It's not like I ever intend to use this particular army at a GW store. By the way you would be surprised by the number of toothed orifices that come up on official GW Slaanesh art. Typically the nipples are replace with mouth, eyes, etc. That said I'll be leaving what below the belt on my daemons to the imagination. Decency...and all that.

First of all, thank you Sersi for the positive comments about my feedback, that's a rare commodity on the interbutts nowadays.

In my opinion, if you want to remove a set of arms- I'd go with the ones that are sticking out to the sides- as they aren't really [i]doing[i] anything. If you still want slaanesh iconography I'd just do "henna" tatoos on the soulgrinders body to get that across.

As for the crab legs... why not a central dais made to look like a reclining chair or even a bed-like deal ala Hedonism Bot from the show Futurama


I think that it could look very good once it's done. BTW, don't go for the ball gag with holes in it look-- screams carry through them, such is not the case with a solid rubber ball. ....Don't ask how I know that though

Well, I wouldn't go for a ball gag anyway, I was imagining a piece of cloth or something around the mouth and eyes...

This is a fantastic blog with some amazing sculpting! Really grade A work.

Although I must admit after reading the last few posts I felt like catpeelers Avatar... teeth wombs....

If you want to remove a pair of arms, personally, I would go for the outstreched ones, they seem the least important

Dunno weather this is a stupid idea or not, but how about putting her on a golden bed/throne kind of thing with 6 legs?

Revisions yeah!

Okay I got lots of great feedback on this from various boards.





I need to thanks the following people for the input on this model:

Gameandwatch: for the idea of using a pregnant machine/daemon...inspiring!
The_chaplain: for the references he provided for the pose, which I have stolen shamelessly.
HK-47: for suggesting keeping the up raised hands to represent the Harvester.
Deraj: for the idea of shackling the supporting arms.
Khanaris: for the hard critique on the belly mouth looking far to pornographic.
Qui-Gon Jinn: for the hard critique on the soul grinder needing to be machine-like, and far less organic.
Nesbitt_bub1: for the idea of rotating the model 45 degrees, and Gigeresque tubing, and a few others not incorporated here yet.
Sidstyler: for being honest enoguh to say dude that just is wrong.
And everyone who's provided me feedback past, seriously thanks guys.



I'll comment on these more but I gotta get to work. Later!

Alright, so far...awesome!

My problems:
Mainly just the gun barrel coming out of the stomach...more of just the fact that it is protruding from the stomach. I think you might be better off with a slightly indented gaping hole(sae size as the gun barrel) apposed to the gun barrel itself.

Slannesh is all about pleasure...well perverse pleasure upon more and more perversity. To be really twisted, you could think about the hole in the stomach as a 'glory hole' (yikes) at the same time a hole in a pregnant woman's stomach.

This in my opinion simply gives too much away, where as with the other idea its like a poke your finger in and see whats in there idea, Slannesh feeding that common curiosity complex with a nasty suprise!

Oh and thanks for the compliment! Art backround comes in handy on occasion!

PS Last minute thought, I know your goin for the super sexy and all, but if you do go for my 'hole' idea, I suggest slight wrinkling or linear tearing around the hole, as if something had ripped the walls or something.... man this is grosse haha!


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OH!! one other thing, how is this model supposed to move around, I mean you could say being a former psycher it just hovers across the battlefield, actually I like that Idea sorda like a shiva on a cloud! When its done, you should mount it on one of those large skimmer bases!!

Looks good and the idea is nice, but I would make the soulgrinder a little different:

I found this pic from Clive Barker's Action Figure Series "Lost Souls":



Make a female version of it with additional arms and put a Nid-Chaos-Hellcanon-style cannon into the opend belly.

I wouldn't make it too gigeresque, because it would be a break. The whole army looks more angelic-fleshly, so I think, a "Species"-like, bionic machine wouldn't be suitable to the rest.

Gameandwatch:

Oh so you prefer an innie over an outie? At the moment I'm thinking of using mechanical crab legs, as several people have pointed out that its supposed to be a walker...Doh! So she's basicly a giant sized "Penetent Engine". The occupant be preserve in a state of perpetual pain and exstacy. A living monument to the Master/Mistress of Sensation.

Logan:

Thanks for the input, I love the model, its definitly chaotic. But that just ain't sexy!

The_chaplain: for the references he provided for the pose, which I have stolen shamelessly.

Just glad to be of help. PM me if you need any input Sersi, and as always, looking forward to more progress pics!

I really do love how this army is coming together, amazing work Sersi...

Now, about the soul grinder...

I think the pregnant idea is great, and you seem to be doing rather nicely with your designs to far, however I do have a few suggestions.

One being that I think you should keep her eyes visible, or at least refrain from the dome-visor thing you've got there. Covering that much of her face hides a lot that could be used to work with you regarding the details of her expression. You may find it more effective to have the eyes and brow visible to help reinforce the 'it hurts but I'm enjoying it' concept.

Also, the lack of the obligatory Slaanesh 'crab claw' is bugging me just a bit, and I think that if done right, adding one or two of those will really help you here.

After all, this is going to end up as basically a keeper of secrets strapped to a mechanical spider-tank of doom as she's 'giving birth' to chaotic warp energies... right?

lol

Just some suggestions, I'm sure it'll be amazing either way.

eeesh nasty lookin....

That final Concept sketch looks awesome !

When it's done it should look fantastic, Seriously, these are turning out really well, I presume the belly si where the cannon is that circular like thing in the middle of it?

Pregnant defiler eh?
Hows this?
sorry best pic i could find

Sidstyler: for being honest enoguh to say dude that just is wrong.

Aww, I was joking...but honestly I think what you have now is much better anyway. The revision I mean.

The whole army looks more angelic-fleshly, so I think, a "Species"-like, bionic machine wouldn't be suitable to the rest.

I disagree, in fact I think it's perfect and will fit in well with the rest of the army.

Why? Because that's exactly what the soulgrinder is, machine and flesh combined. None of the other demons in the GW line have mechanical bits on them, the soulgrinder is the only one that does. I dunno, it makes sense to me, and I don't think it would look any more out of place in this army than it would in a standard GW demons army.

Wow, getting lots of amazing feedback here!

The_chaplain:

- Thanks for the offer, I'm sure I'll be PM-ing you sooner than later.

Karoline Dianne:

- Thanks for the reply. My thinking on the head was that the dome over her eyes was a computer/viewer screen showing heretical imagery capable of warping the mind and corrupting the soul. I could be smaller though, and take up less of the face.

- I'll definitely try to work in claws, when I design the legs.

ShotgunFacelift:

- Nasty as in that's sick but I can't stop looking at it? If so that's what I going for. Thanks!

Wolf:

- Thanks. Yeah, the short barrel is intended to be the Maw cannon, although I'll likely change it to and indented design.

Typhus:

- I'll need to study this design but it looks to have allot of potential. But it looks like I could easily remove the legs from the design, and merge everything from the waist down into a mechanical spider body based on this design. I need three Soulgrinders anyway, so its definietely something I'll be taking a closer look at. Thanks!

Sidstyler:

- I figured you were joking, but I still value the input. While, I couldn't be bribed to enter a GW store...and only ever play adults. Its still easy to take Slaaneshi themes to far.

- I'm thinking that the soulgrinder should be a combination of hard metal parts and soft organic flesh. So, in the nest revision I'll try to incorporate that.

So I've been thinking, Yes dangerous I know.

So, anyway. I still need to come up with a way to represent: plaguebearers and nurglings.

Now, Slaves to Darkness mentions the "Tormented" which are kinda these slaaneshi zombie-slave things. That got me thinking about converting grave ghouls and putting them in gimp-suits: leather hoods and loin cloths most likely. Afterall, the Sisters and Inquisition already have "church sanctioned Gimps...excuse me...arco-flagellants. And Slaanesh is not one to be outdone with regard to fetish.

For nurglings. How about daemonic version of the munchkins from the Wizard of Oz / Umpalumpas from Willie Wonka for nurglings? Creepy, no?

Sersi wrote:[B]
Or how about daemonic version of the munchkins from the Wizard of Oz / Umpalumpas from Willie Wonka for nurglings? Creepy:p

I like it. Great (<-Understatement) work so far, keep it up.

I think that would look amazingly horrible and still keep with the army, Im confuse werent you doing the ogres as plagubearers? where they way too big? If they were, you know you dont have to go bloated for plaguebearers, everyone does the bloated thing, what about a plague that does the opposite. like a plague that sucks away your fat to make you sexier...but causes such addiction that it doesnt stop there...and the plaguebearers keep injecting themselves with it to become skinnier and skinnier, like plague driven bolemics(S?). constantly purging, to feel good....yikes....

Now you have me thinking of strung out super-models.

I changed the Gluttons to "counts as Blood Crushers". They were to big to be plaquebearers, and there were issues with them being on larger bases 40-60mm bases. Besides giant fat genies owning space marines is to cool to pass up.

Ahhhhhh.... (rediculous post I know )

This is amazing, Just wow; perfect slaanesh.

just one little complaint

PAINT SOMETHING !!!!! even if its just a toe....something

Hey Sersi, Ive been watching this log avidly. everything is incredible, I've probably said as much before

I had a cool idea for the dais, inspired by your first sketch of the SG. what if it was composed of serpents, who rose up behind it like a throne?

something like this, but less static:

That'd actually be a really cool for the soulgrinder. Might even be able to make the snakes tieing her down in a slaneshy bondage sort of way ;p

Nothing says Slanesh like bondage with lethal reptiles ;p

Okay, here are two more Soul grinder concept designs I came up with:





I hate to warp your minds and run; but I'm taking the wife to the Chicago Comic-con today.


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i dunno, this soulgrinder seems a bit.....i dont wanna say its wrong cos its not perverted and it doesnt have teeth filled penuses or whatever, but its really....unsettling...maybe thats your whole plan ^^.
oh i prefer the giant spider women things btw. first one is my fav.

So are you abandoning the pregnant soulgrinder concept?