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Post by: Sersi
I'm be posting up some new progress shots in couple hours of so. But I want catch up on some replies while I haves some parts baking, etc.
Gameandwatch:
What's up buddy. I am so far behind on personal e-mail is just not funny, I have like 2,500 or so that I'm not even opened yet. Needless to say i haven't forgot you man!  Your right about the under bite on the jaw, but I planned to built jaw up after the teeth set.
I'll probably go with the idea similar to what you suggested of having some wrinkled, stretched skin around the gun barrel.
Krellnus:
Nope, there feet. About half way between a Ballerina's shoe and a spiders foot. The mounds between the legs are camel toe however!
ExtremeMetalFTW:
Thank you. Nothing wrong with adding a little Slaaneshi lovin' to you daemon army, bro.
Lord Kaesar II:
Their just highly arched feet. The concept art is a few pages back.
CalPerr:
Hmmm... I like this idea. May be a scarf life head crest with tentacles coming out the back...
Wehrkind:
Yeah I'm leaning more toward tentacles that hair or just leaving her bald.
Empchild:
Thanks. I have more units on the way including some converted fiends. The models just kind of grew on me... They get larger claws; and I'll reduce the breasts from 5 incomplete sets to 3 full sets. With augmentation ofcourse. Six being our sacred number and all. They'll pull herald chariots chariots, since I've already got converted units for the most useful units in the codex.
Gameandwatch:
I don't no about the tongue in the barrel idea but some kind of wrinkly, stretched orifice seems appropriate to the task.
Klawz:
You should look as the original concept the barrel looked a little too much like a "fun box" and everyone took is as such. Hopefully I can pull off a more elegant solution.
Wehrkind:
Yeah, its her navel. It's an out-tie, obviously.
erikthefool:
Which part?
Behind th Mask:
She'll be done soon. Really the only thing holding me back is that I still haven't decide how to integrate the "Mother" into the throne. She's got connections in her lower back to attach her to the seat. but I need to figure out what they connect to. How about a pipe organ/exhaust system. Say something similar to a "Doom-Siren"?
Gameandwatch:
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking about.
illizzyloser2008
Thanks! This army is definitely rated "M" for mature.
Ghosty:
I have to veto the baby idea. The concept is that this is a fallen Eldar farseer, that is "metaphorically" pregnant with the corrupting power of Slaanesh; and in nearly bursting with daemonic energies. Now, how said "daemonic energy" got into her; I'll leave to your perverse imaginations.
Oh yeah, were the devil is Walker90234? He hasn't posted in days I'm starting to feel unloved! >
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Post by: Empchild
cheers man, it's great to see you back on the track with it again.
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Post by: The Farseer
nice
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Sersi wrote:Oh yeah, were the devil is Walker90234? He hasn't posted in days I'm starting to feel unloved!  >
Now that is confusing, isn't it?
Anyway, the Pregger's hair should be that generic tentacle hair all Slaaneshi daemon have.
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Post by: cadian512
slightly off topic but i think you should put NSFW on the title of this thread
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Post by: typhus
Are you going to cast this?
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Post by: ghosty
:( :( i do not have a perverse imagination :O
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Post by: Behind th Mask
The Pipe organ exhaust system would look pretty awesome!!!
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Post by: walker90234
Sersi wrote:
Oh yeah, were the devil is Walker90234? He hasn't posted in days I'm starting to feel unloved!  >
lol, i was on D of E, then went to my grandparents 4 the week. i was just thinkin, for the solgrinder head, why don't you tattoo it? sound kinda weird but not just paint the tattoos, model em out of greenstuff and stick em on. Can we se a picture of the soulgrinder on throne with legs ect attatched?
also, just as a side not, after youve fiished this project, try doing a slaanesh soul grinder titan. itd be cool, just imagine warhound legs ad kos body.
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Post by: CalPerr
DP looks finished to me. Hair is awesome and face looks totally real.
One question: Is she supposed to be hot or no?
Because I think she looks like an ugly girl. Big cheek bones, thin lips and a big nose. Given they aren't really sculpting issues but I got the since this was a slaaneshi army so I image the princess as like, a sexual icon type firgure. However, having the Princess be ugly and still getting here way with whoever she wants could play into the fluff just as strongly.
Sersi wrote:
Behind th Mask:
She'll be done soon. Really the only thing holding me back is that I still haven't decide how to integrate the "Mother" into the throne. She's got connections in her lower back to attach her to the seat. but I need to figure out what they connect to. How about a pipe organ/exhaust system. Say something similar to a "Doom-Siren"?
Maybe just a throne. A straight up eldar royalty type deal. I'd imagine ,since it's eldar, it would have something to do with warp energy, so it could even play into her possession by slaanesh. Sort of like a farseer version of cerebro.
Sersi wrote:
Ghosty:
I have to veto the baby idea. The concept is that this is a fallen Eldar farseer, that is "metaphorically" pregnant with the corrupting power of Slaanesh; and in nearly bursting with daemonic energies. Now, how said "daemonic energy" got into her; I'll leave to your perverse imaginations.
awwww . . . . . :(> Automatically Appended Next Post: walker90234 wrote:
i was just thinkin, for the solgrinder head, why don't you tattoo it? sound kinda weird but not just paint the tattoos, model em out of greenstuff and stick em on.
That wouldn't be a tattoo then. . . . . . . . .
still
sounds cool
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
walker90234 wrote:for the solgrinder head, why don't you tattoo it? sound kinda weird but not just paint the tattoos, model em out of greenstuff and stick em on
Sounds more like that scarification or branding or something like that I saw once on Taboo. People pretty much grow false bone below their skin to make... interesting designs, like this one guy who did horns underneath his skin. Kinda kreepy, but it does go with the whole "giving yourself over to excess and do whatever the warp you wanna do" routine that Slaanesh bathes in.
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Post by: walker90234
yeah that kinda thing
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yeah that kinda thing
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Post by: Stephen Bond
Could you a shot of the whole army
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Post by: Sersi
Bah....a few more revisions to the face:
I thinned down the nose, reduced the jaw, and plumped up the lips.
I want to make her a bit cuter. So I'll probably reduce the high check bones. Also I want fill the hollows of the cheeks, foe a more rounded look. The goal being to make her less masculine looking.
Anyway, I need some input from you guys cause I've been looking at this so long I starting to go blind to the flaws.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Definetely getting there, cuter: more pointed jawline, smaller nose, reduced brow ridge, otherwise not a whole lot you can do before paint at this size
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Post by: kestral
I dunno, I think the head has a great deal of personality as is - not really what you would expect, but chaos should be unexpected.
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Post by: Empchild
a long gene simons style tongue would work well out of the head!!
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Post by: Empchild
Looks amazing sersi good stuff as always.
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Post by: privateer
Sersi, I've been lurking on this thread for a long time now, and, like everyone else, I love your stuff. The head you're working on now is looking better and better. If you are looking for advice on how to make her look "cuter" I would say to look from the profile and think about reducing or pushing back the lower jaw. I think someone else mentioned her underbite. Most folk's lower jaw sits further back on the profile than their upper jaw. Most people have at least a small underbite. Think about how her mouth would fit if it were closed. I think this might go a long way towards feminizing her look. In any case, I can't wait to see more.
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Post by: Llamahead
Out of interest have you sent the Keeper of secrets of to Troll Forge. Because theres a giant daemon thingy which looks a lot like him over their. For the corrupted eldar thing how about a Shuriken cannon looking weapon or possibly a Warp Spider Gun/D Cannon style thing. it could also be her own Singing Spear that she was impaled on.......
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Post by: ExtremeMetalFTW
Sersi this might help in how exactly to sculpt the face
http://www.yestheyrefake.net/ideal_beauty.htm
It's an article on facial symmetry & beauty ideals with some pictures & sketches
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Post by: Sersi
Thanks for the input guys I have made some changes:
- re-sculpted the chin and jaw.
- reduce the nose and gave it a slight upward turn
- filled out the hollows of the cheeks.
- rounded out the furrows on the brow.
The sum of the above changes resulting is this thing here...enjoy!
Things to do:
The lower lip still bothers me; as do the corners of the mouth at present. Well anyway back to work.
More Later!
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Post by: CalPerr
She looks great! You're right about that lip though. Like you just asked her a confusing question.
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Post by: Sersi
I'm thinking that there's to much space between the nose and upper lip?
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CalPerr wrote:
Because I think she looks like an ugly girl. Big cheek bones, thin lips and a big nose. Given they aren't really sculpting issues but I got the since this was a slaaneshi army so I image the princess as like, a sexual icon type firgure.
seconded (if thats a word)
looking good and the spidery leg throne really gave off a slannesh feel
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Post by: gameandwatch
Her ear is low, upper lip is too long, and needs some more *plush* to it, she still has a fairly masculine chin, really shave tat sucker down...
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Post by: walker90234
you NEED to attatch her onto her own throne by being impailed by her own singing spear, it would be so awesome!
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Post by: CalPerr
Good work once again. All in all she is sexy now. Just about there I'd say.
Ears of course, as you said, aren't quite perfect.
The only other thing I noticed, she seems to have some 'scars' around her mouth. Not sure if that is just discoloration from the multiple stages of putty or if its an indent but . . . it is a thing i noticed that stops this from being *PERFECT*
Also, that last picture is scary awesome.
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Post by: Sersi
Yeah, she needs a little more sanding and leveling out of the surface. Everything else is molded, So we're just waiting on the head now.
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Post by: gameandwatch
As said, man, muuuch better, most would be surprised how much just having the ears in the right place makes a difference. But she is far more feminine now, and has more of an exctesy sort-of sigh expression, which I really like, subtlety goes a long way. Now, when she hits the paint, she should be dead sexy...
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Post by: Owain
It was loads of fun to watch you work and re-work the Daemon Princess... each time it got a little closer to what it needed to be and now it's perfect.
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Post by: ExtremeMetalFTW
I do believe the sanding + leveling and a paintjob would make her look complete
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Post by: Scaraman
I think you've definitely got it in this one as far as sculpting goes. She is most certainly looking sexier! and the viewpoint from the top of the horns works really well and magnifies the angriness of her!
Great work!!!
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Post by: Lorgar's_Blessed
Loved reading the Liber! The Slaanesh and Khorne sections were especially inspiring, as I'm sure you have noticed.
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Post by: Trasvi
Fantastic blog so far - i thought of doing something very similar to this ages ago for fantasy demons, but gave up on the idea after I realised how much sculpting and casting skills were needed. Its nice to see someone prepared to invest the time and money!
Whilst that daemon's head has been getting progressively better, there is still something not quite right about it to me that i can't put my finger on. Not that my sculpting skills are good at all, but perhaps the upper lip protrudes too much and the eyes are too sunken? Cast the one you've made now and then experiment imo
Keep up the fantastic work, can't wait to see some of these painted!!
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Post by: ubbeknubbe
This is a really good looking army!
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Yes, that is a fine choice for a head.
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Post by: Karoline Dianne
There seems to be a problem with photobucket, as for some reason I cannot see any of your newer pictures, Sersi. I'm rather eager to see your updates, but all i see is a box saying
"Upgrade to pro today! Bandwidth exceeded!"
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Post by: sc0ttfree
this is becoming to Slaanish-like! first we see theres an update and pounce all over this thread like a fat kid on a smartie just to find "bandwidth exceeded"
well i guess we know where you got your sculting abilities from now
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Post by: Sersi
Okay, the bandwidth problem is fixed!
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Post by: physcosamatic
with the head, the body seems very thin, maybe some armor or other addons will give it more character
btw i really like the way you have portrayed the female beauty in this army without scarring the hell out of everyone, its still scary but from an artist's point of view it looks very well done
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Post by: Sersi
Okay, started on the Soul Grinder's final head. Its still very early in the re-sculpting process. The Liber Chaotic head is really working form me. Its eldar-esque, which fits the fluff. It's got a crown of six horns, that I like and which allow me to incorporate Slaanesh's sacred number into the model again.
Oh, by the way the pencil lines on her sides mark where I'll be gouging in cuts from her hands clawing her belly. I still may add some raised veins ti the belly. We'll see...
Admittedly, this is not the most forgiving angle, but I think the heads coming along nicely.
Looking at this picture makes me wonder if mechanical legs could work using just this part of the sculpture.
What say you all?
More Later Automatically Appended Next Post: Looking at her now the eyes are a bit to large, but that's easily fixed. I may open the eyes, at least partially. Or scrunch closed really tight as if she's in great pain. I'll look for some reference and do some sketches.
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Post by: Llamahead
Have you thought about giving her pointy ears also it might be worth trying to consciously echo the stag horns a lot of Farseers have?
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Post by: Maj.Winters
Sersi wrote:Oh, by the way the pencil lines on her sides mark where I'll be gouging in cuts from her hands clawing her belly. I still may add some raised veins ti the belly. We'll see...
**Shudder**
Very good at being super disturbing.
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Post by: Scaraman
Firstly, i would definitely go with some raised veins/the cuts digging in cause itll give a really nice stretched and painful detail.
Also, had a thought that for the legs, how about going halfway on them and have them sort of partly flesh and partly mechanical? sort of terminator-esque but with the slaneshy slenderness?
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Post by: gameandwatch
Honestly bud, I would go straight mechanical, as to emphasize that she is a warped prisoner with no purpose but to act as a tortured weapon. I think there are many strong organic elements in the figure, and it might be overwhelming to have anything else be organic, as the strong organic figure, and strong mechanical throne/prison would accent each other well.
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Post by: Sersi
gameandwatch:
I believe your right about the design needing to be balanced. Well, I do have this alternate head that basically a cracked and damaged Farseer helmet. I'll post it up in a bit.
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Post by: Wehrkind
I am digging the helmet/horns/crown look you have going so far. It is a nice effect so far.
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Post by: CalPerr
The DP looks great. The wire neck makes her look like a rock-em sock-em robot
I'm not really liking the preggers head to much thou. The drawing looks awsome so maybe Im just not seeing it yet.
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Post by: Morgrim
I really like the head. Eyes scrunched would look good if you could make them work, she looks a little... peaceful. I also really like what you did with the toes.
Are you planning on casting more than just the princess?
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Post by: Sersi
Yes, I'll be casting the Soulgrinder and the Male KOS.
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Post by: Marushi
Hey Sersi, love this thread, and been following it rather closely, if you wanna stay rather fluffy, then mechanical legs are definately the way to go. I'm assuming you've got 'dex for the army, and if so, have a quick re-read of the back story on the Soul Grinders. Or if you don't want to, it's basically that a daemon makes a pact with the "Masters of the Forge of Souls", who, utilising materials absorbed from wars to create the machines for daemons to bind to, a la Defilers in the stock model's case. It goes on to say that after a while (decades to centuries) the mechanical for will shift and warp in appearance depending on the daemon posessing it. My idea would be to perhaps base the legs on the stock model, obviously altering it in ways to appear more Slaaneshi, and I don't mean putting 6 boobs on each leg Perhaps having something simple like altering the armour on the legs to match the rest of your army (like the plate mail on some of the princesses) or maybe having the legs mutating from flesh to machine, closer to the daemon, the more legs/muscleature and having the usual mechanical claws for the feet. Or just drop those ideas entirely, give her two legs, stick her on an open top palanquin and have some daemonettes carry her around. Food for thought anyways!
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Post by: Sersi
Hiya!
So, I've been working on the Soulgrinder. I settled on a combination of things:
1. Farseer helmet - this is without the most iconic element of the Farseer imagery I've studied. So, this had to be incorporated some how. So, I've opted for a helmet with a shattered and cracked face plate that will partially reveal the eldar's face.
2. Horns - Horns are fundamental to Chaos in general and Slaanesh in particular. So 6 horns will be punch through holes in the sides if the helmet, similar to Chaos Possessed. I also mimics the stylized crest on the Farseer Helmets.
3. Soul Stones - Since I envision this as a primarily psychic weapon. The entire throne will be encrusted with captured Eldar Soul Stones, used to amplify the Farseer's powers.
4. The throne and with walker legs I now envision as a corrupted wraith-bone construct. Similar to something like the Wraithlord. I may have to rethink the working of the knee joints and do a bit of re-sculpting. But it should be simple to do.
Got all that? Really? Okay.
So, Pics:
Head Details:
Claw Marks:
Its kind of hard to see with everything being grey, but the claw marks are pretty deep, with torn flesh built up where they stop. It's a bit of subtle detailing but it whould really standout when painted. The reason the hands don't look like the match up with the claw marks because they're no longer glued in place...in case your wondering.
Full Body:
Lastly here are a few full body pics of the Farseer. I added shackles to the praying hands as added to the pleading aspect of the model. Is she praying to Slaanesh? Begging for Death?, of Calling on the Eldar gods for salvation? Cursing them? Who can say...she's probably done all of the above over the course of her millennium long imprisonment.
Sorry, I had to upload some pictures to DakkaDakka to get around Photobucket's Censors. Okay, tiny grey nipples are bad...unless their shadowed? They only blocked some pics...weird.
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Post by: Empchild
Sersi you good sir are one busy man with all of your progects, but at least you deliver every time. I am as usual amazed and find her astounding!!!!! Cheers Man!
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
The claw marks are a fanntastic touch.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Well done my friend, this is really going to be "gaze stealer" when you bring the army to play with... keep it up!
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Post by: Tobber1202
I've just read this entire blog, and i must admit that it is jaw-dropingly good
you're really talanted sersi!
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Post by: Sersi
Head:
I know some aren't fond of the Farseer concept... But I did mold the head before I started on the current version, to alternate daemonic tentacle head is still an option.
Chains:
I plan on binding the praying hands together with modeling chain, the legs and two supporting hands will be chained as well. I think the shorter chain would be best. Mostly, because unless its glued to the model or some how made immobile it could rub of the paint during transport. Another option would be to have a broken chain. On the one hand, it would tie in with her resisting (like the claw marks), but on the other it might provide too much... hope? for her, and it might be taking away from the perfection that would be demanded of her by Slaanesh. I think it can work on several levels. Is she a resisting victim, a willing convert, or has her spirit already been crushed. I'm thinking intact chain as it does look better aesthetically.
Soul stones:
I want to have several smaller soul stones incorporated into the models throne-construct, and throughout the army: daemonettes clutching freshly plucked soul stones, etc. For the chest mounted stone on the grinder I imagine that the flesh has grown around it. It will be getting more detailing. As will the stone that I intend to place on the models forehead. I've also thought about having Eldar/Slanneshi runes either carved or branded into the Farseer's flesh. To further emphasize her torment, no ball gags though that would interfere with Slaanesh's enjoyment of her anguished screams after all.
Basing:
I've been pondering long and hard on how to do the basing, and now I think I've found the solution. Dragonforge, just came out with as whole line of Eldar-ish bases that to draw inspiration from. http://www.dragonforge.com/Painting%20service/for%20sale/base_sets/sci-fi/Lost%20Empires%20Series.htm
I would just buy these but one it be to easy, and two with so many models there'd be just to much duplication.
Painting:
I finally figured out how I want to paint these things. After looking at allot of Renaissance art especially the Angelic themes I've decided to go with a dark "Fallen Angels" color scheme. I'm thinking dark and atmospheric. For instance the winged models will have black feathers.
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Post by: Empchild
sounds solid sersi.. we all wait with high anticipation!!
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Post by: Morgrim
I'd go more for having her spirit broken, a millenia of entrapment by a daemon is likely to shatter anyone, and direct influence of a chaos god would amply that a hundred fold. She's been twisted and corrupted and degraded and utterly humiliated and knows that will continue for eternity. She may still struggle but it is likely more out of habit than hope. Knwing (or being told) that if she does manage to escape there is nothing she can do, nowhere to go. Not even dying will save her since She Who Thirsts has chosen to do more than merely feed on her soul. Attempting defiance and resistance when fighting those she does not wish to fight (likely eldar) and perhaps submitting and even taking joy at sharing her pain against those she hates (other chaos, necrons).
Well, my views anyway.
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Post by: CalPerr
Painting?!?!?!
OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY!OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY!
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Post by: mcfly
I don't know if it has been asked yet, but are you going to be selling some casts on trollforged or something?
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Post by: perplexiti
Awesome stuff Sersi, good to see you back here.
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Post by: aromasin
Love it all!
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Post by: typhus
Will you please cast that grinder its perfect for my hellraiser themed slanesh army!
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Post by: physcosamatic
mcfly wrote:I don't know if it has been asked yet, but are you going to be selling some casts on trollforged or something?
i second this idea, the scratch built demon princesses and fiends would be very popular
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Post by: Wehrkind
So bleeding awesome. The claw marks are a great idea, and I really dig the head. (No fangs?)
Are you going to put some hair/crest stuff behind the helmet, or keep it bare metal? I am thinking that lots of the Eldar have floaty, flowing stuff on their hats, and it might make a nice bit of decoration to have hanging down from the back of her helmet.
So... when can I pre-order 2?
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Post by: CalPerr
Alright I am liking the helm, gotta admit it. Is the idea that the horns are growing out from under the helmet or that they are part of the helm('fake horns')?
Wondering if you had considered putting stiching over her eye lids, to signify some forced use of her "farsight".
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Post by: ubbeknubbe
That looks great!
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Jaw-droppingly awesome.
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Post by: Captain Klaw
ok, first of all, congrats sersi, great thread. you essentially made me join this so i could more easily follow this project.
secondly, wow, amazing modelling skills.
and thirdly, sorry if i get flamed for this, but i really dont like the spider legs. IM SORRY! you are a fantastic modeller and your concepts and sketches are amazing, but i think the whole walking platform cheapens the integrity of your existing ideas.
i'd love to see you splash on some paint. then again, i havent done any warhammer in months (except for last night- thanks to some inspiration from sersi)
go slaanesh!
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Post by: Sersi
...And she's Done!
I have more close up pics but, I'll post those later. Enjoy!
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Post by: CadianXV
Horrifyingly beautiful. 10/10
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Post by: typhus
Are you not going to put any detail around the edge of the plastic plank shes sitting on?
Also please tell me your gonna cast this!
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Post by: Empchild
I'm going t oagree with typus on both accounts on this. What about a lush rug, and maybe a few slaves hanging around.. pls cough cough so casting cough I'll take one pls
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Post by: RandomHero
Long time lurker, first time poster... this is amazing stuff. I can't wait to see some of it painted up!
Don't leave us hanging Sersi, give us more!
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Post by: Schiznas
Amazing stuff Sersi, looking at what she started out as and now that shes done.... beautiful...
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Post by: Wolfed
That is absolutely disturbing  Really looking forward to see that... "grinder" done. I'm not even gonna dare to assume how she'll look when she's finished. Great modelling!
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Post by: F4cili7ator
I can't wait to see this painted it's really amazing so far
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Post by: Dysartes
Looking great, Sersi.
I do have to echo typhus and Empchild, though - the plasticard plank does come off as a touch bland at present.
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Post by: IPS
Looks great so far!
However I'm wondering where to other weapons will be, as well as how you create tha "base" she's riding on.
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Post by: Sersi
CadianXV:
Thank you!
typhus:
The actual platform will get some additional detailing. I will also be casting her once I figure out the most efficient way to mold her.
Empchild:
Hmmm.... a rug huh? I could see that. There will definitely be lounging daemonettes; and maybe even a corrupted "Seer Council".
RandomHero
Don't worry I got more to show...
Schiznas:
Thank you! I wasn't entirely sure that I could do justice to the concept art. She definitely turned out better than expected.
Wolfed:
Disturbing, huh? Alright then mission accomplished!
F4cili7ator:
Dysartes:
Oh, I agree with you all on the platform. Not to worry, though I have a plan to correct that.
IPS:
"Counts as" my friend. She's a giant psyker weapon, so pretty much anything goes.
I juggling three armies at the moment, but I have more to show here soon.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Awesomely horrifying work sersi, where will we be able to get some of this stuff once its cast?
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Post by: delta13
so love this thread... like everyone watching...i can't wait o see the finished model of the prgnant defiler/souldgrinder thingy...lol...frikin wicked...awsome job so far
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Post by: aromasin
Hurra! The army of Grey!!
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Post by: Morgrim
I still love the wings you've made and cast, and the winged serpent daemons (this is me being too lazy to check back over a dozen pages and find what you've called them). Think a few might need some washers glued under the bases though.
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Post by: Sersi
What's sad is that there are washers glued to the bottoms.  My cats keep bumping the display case, and knocking my minis over.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Stupid cats, they need to get a job... But on a serious note, I think you better slap some paint on these guys soon bud, or you might have revolt on your hands! Automatically Appended Next Post: (Grabs torch and pitchfork, can t beat em, join em  )
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Post by: Sersi
Gameandwatch! S'up man?
Arrrgh paint.... I'll be working on that. I pledge to complete at least a squad of Daemonettes this weekend. You guys will have to be stern with me, as I tendency to slack off.
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Post by: aromasin
Sersi wrote:Gameandwatch! S'up man?
Arrrgh paint.... I'll be working on that. I pledge to complete at least a squad of Daemonettes this weekend. You guys will have to be stern with me, as I tendency to slack off.
Then stern we shall be!!!
Paint them now!!! (I'm not very good at stern  )
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Post by: Stephen Bond
What colours will you paint them. Will it be pinky or purpley or somthing completely new hmmmm how vexing
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Post by: xenite
I really dig the winged seeker-things.
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Post by: Slarg232
Very nice work. I would be honored to come across such a highly tailored force on the battlefeild.
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Post by: Sersi
So, I got the molds for the princess poured, here are some pictures. I'm using a transparent silicon rubber called "Sort-a-Clear" by Smooth-on; that makes it super easy to cut open the molds without costly errors. The trick with clear silicon is that your mold box must be absolutely smooth to achieve maximum clarity. Any grain refracts the light penetrating the block and you won't be able to see through it. I use homemade foam core box, with the inside lined with clear packing tape. It works a treat.
I'll get the molds cut tonight, and should have the first assembled cast posted up before morning.
More Later!
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Post by: Wehrkind
Wow, it is like the holiday jello molds of the damned.
Very neat, can't wait to see how those bad boys come out. Do you just pour the mold in one go and razor apart the two halves, or am I seeing that wrong? I usually try the two part, one at a time method, to mixed results, and inadvertently tried doing it all in one when I failed to lube up some latex and made one solid bit. It didn't turn out well, but then I wasn't really certain how to cut it well. I am curious as to how you do it.
I love this blog
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Post by: Sersi
I mostly use single pour molds, as the safe lots of time and your end up with fewer mold line if done right. I'll have to find the page in blog it on but I detailed the technique waaaay back around page 3-4. It easier to show in picture than explain in text though.
Found it!
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Post by: Zzzzzz
Looking forward to seeing the castings....
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Post by: SilverMK2
As am I - I've had some resin/mould material for a while and have been trying to think of the best way to cast things using it. I would be interested to see how good the single piece mould is compared to the moulds made in 2 pieces.
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Post by: Sersi
Well I've had some issues....
I did not properly vent the mold here and the air pressure prevented it from being filled....damn!
On the head I got an air bubble at the chin....damn!
I'm working to fix this now.....
But.... the other parts came out beautifully:
Sheeh...even the loincloth came out nice....
Anyway I'm trying a new test after boring new air vents. Details tonight!
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Post by: ExtremeMetalFTW
I think the wings came out the best.
Did you do anything different with them?
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Post by: Sersi
Well, now... Its hard to believe that I started this model way back in April of 2009.
I re-vented the molds and cave it the old college try...
This ones a mixture of components from to different pours, hence the color variation. You'll also notice a few holes caused by air bubbles. Anyway, she a composed of 8 socketed components, no pinning required. I working on a new tentacle head. The tentacles will be cast straight but with a quick dunk in hot water, they can be posed how every you like.
In Progress:
1. Detailing the Soulgrinder's throne, with lounging daemonettes.
2. Working on the Changling stand-in model.
3. Six converted Fiends of Slaanesh; with just six larger breasts....yeah!
4. Started hacking apart the other to daemon princesses, to clean the up for casting.
5. reworking some details on the male KOS.
More later!
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Post by: Morgrim
I'm surprised how well the detail came out around the top of the stockings (can't think of a better way of phrasing it). And I'm still admiring those wings.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Wow, absolutely amazing.
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Post by: Sersi
I was also surprised by how well the details came out. She's really lightweight too, like 55 grams.
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Post by: walker90234
u should do 2 demonettes like.. y'know... coupling...
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Post by: metallifan
walker90234 wrote:u should do 2 demonettes like.. y'know... coupling...
Or you could just... y'know... keep your spanking habits to yourself.
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Post by: Wehrkind
Lost my post because I am brain dead... Short version:
Awesome, I am buying one, thanks for the tips! I will cut off my fingers finding out it is harder than it looks
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Post by: walker90234
im joking you idiot.anyway, at least i didn't curse.
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Post by: Captain Klaw
@metallifan:
ease up buddy.
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Post by: Ruzto
Absolutely fantastic work! thumbs!
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Post by: Empchild
wow sersi you continue to push the limits and that thing is awsome. I can't wait to see this whole army painted and killing!
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Post by: walker90234
did i tell you how awesome this army would be in apocalypse? yknow, you should really make sum supa heavies whn ur finished. Somtin like a soulgrinder bNEBLbde or a soulgrinder titan.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Are you sure a Soulgrinder Titan would be a good idea? I mean, no offense to him, but he did take a long time on a regular Souldgrinder.
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Post by: Sersi
What's this? Someone doubting my skillz...  All kidding aside... The most difficult and time consuming part of any modeling project is coming up with a viable design. The design of the pregnant grinder evolved slowly over time. With a concrete design I could probably complete a bio-Titan in a week. I just so happen to have two finished designs.
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Post by: Sersi
Well Guys,
The second Daemon Princess is getting molded today. Along with to new alternate heads so you all cam get your tentacle fetish on. Anyway I come up with a nominal price $50 USD. My thinking is this, these models are the same size as Forgeworld's KOS:
Now that thing costs $ 125 smackers. The Games workshop KOS which is hideous by the way is $50, so less than a blood thirster. However, I'm open to being swayed by argument on the price.
Anyways, if you think you might want one send me a PM and be counted.
More Later!
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Post by: Morgrim
The horned head reminds me of Ico, for some reason. Which is odd when I stop to reflect on it. Maybe something about the temple?
Do you want PMed expressions of interest in the soulgrinder too?
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Post by: Sersi
Yes indeed. If you want a Grinder or the Male KOS just send me a PM. Or just check out my stuff on Ebay,
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Post by: Da Big Mek
conversions are good as ever, rock on and as a proper big mek I demand more dakka!
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Post by: gameandwatch
Nice man, keep it up, though, it does look a little rediculous since she is nearly blinded by those massive horns. Oh and I may be wanting some things caste in the near future, if you could ever find the time!
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Post by: typhus
pm sent
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Post by: Theduke07
Sersi wrote:Yes indeed. If you want a Grinder or the Male KOS just send me a PM. Or just check out my stuff on Ebay,
Link to your ebay store?
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Post by: Da 'nid crusher
This is brilliant. I've been from page one to here and i'm quite frankly amazed! I really can't wait to see them all done and painted!
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Post by: poipo32
Theduke07 wrote:Sersi wrote:Yes indeed. If you want a Grinder or the Male KOS just send me a PM. Or just check out my stuff on Ebay,
Link to your ebay store?
This ^
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Post by: Slarg232
Too bad I am saving up because I just got out of high school and need money for this "real world" thing my parents are speaking of, otherwise I would order some of these so fast, it would make you dizzy
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Post by: calypso2ts
Link would be great, I would put in an order in a heartbeat.
Phenomenal work, I bet this army would look incredible on the tabletop.
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Post by: Sersi
Okay here's the link to my webstore: Link!
At the moment only the one Daemon Princess is up for sale. The second one should go up on Saturday, the crouching one will go up on monday. I'm still working on the mold for the Big KOS, and the Sould grinder is still having its engine block worked on.
Later!
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Post by: Trasvi
Are you allowed to use the word Daemonette in your ebay listings? Im sure you'd get quite a few more hits.
I'll buy one as soon as the funds come through
As for the fiend, I think the lower sets of breasts are too full and rounded -i feel like they should start at a D cup and progress down to a B, rather than all staying so large in size.
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Post by: Sersi
I thought about adding the words daemonette and Slaanesh to the entry but was worried about getting a C&D letter from GW.
Your right though I'd get allot more replies that way. So, I,ll probably do it anyway.
Thanks for the advice on the fiend. An A or B cup would work better, consider it done.
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Post by: poipo32
You might very well get a C&D if you do so, but I don't think they'll take any legal actions, a C&D is just a letter after all it's not an order of the court.
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Post by: Morgrim
Slaanesh maybe, you can't for daemonette.
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Post by: calypso2ts
Like the look of your modified fiends a whole lot as well, I really dislike the droopy chests on the current models, if you are going to be Slaaneshi then do it right!
Just threw in my order for a DP, I am using two slaanesh Heralds from the WHFB chaos line now and she will make a great center piece.
Are you going to use the legs/tail/heads that come with the original models or sculpt them as well?
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Post by: Sersi
I will probably be sculpting some alternate heads, arms, and tails. I have the concept at that the Diaz-nettes and the FW keeper of secrets were based off. They never made the fiend model, but l want to have a few in the army anyway.
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Post by: calypso2ts
As always keep us updated, I finally got my Slaanesh Daemons (pure Slaanesh no counts as) in a game this afternoon and they performed well/it was tons of fun.
I like the idea of fiends being a bit more 'diazy' in the end.
On a related note the Daemon Princess from Sersi came in today. The model (as everyone knows) is phenomenal and the pieces fit together far better than any metal GW model I have had to work with. I can't wait to get it on the table!
With regards to modeling, I looked back at your pictures of the Princess and I think the wings may need a little reinforcement at their mounting point. Are you looking to do so with yours?
I was even toying with the idea of magnetizing them, but the model looks so much more badass with them on.
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Post by: Sersi
Great! I'm glad you like the model. Your right about the wings, the posts that hod them in place were metal in the original. They were square shaped brass rod. I'll see if I can get the size for you. I just drilled mine out and used clipped piano wire to pine them.
Be sure to post up some pics when you get her painted.
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Post by: wraith373
my daemon princess came in and got assembled today, this modal is amazing, like noted above the wings needed reenforcement, but that was an easy fix. thanks alot sersi, i will post pics when i get her painted.
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Post by: JMZ
As always, loving this continued project.... however, have still yet to see anything painted.....
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Post by: Sersi
Oh it'll all get painted eventually, having spent this long getting everything looking the way i want I not in any hurry to rush onto painting.
Any way I got a few updates to post tonight.
Later!
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Post by: JMZ
Sersi wrote:
Arrrgh paint.... I'll be working on that. I pledge to complete at least a squad of Daemonettes this weekend. You guys will have to be stern with me, as I tendency to slack off.
as of 05/13/2010
Think you may be in need of some cattle prodding.
JK, the models look great, take your time when painting, just wanted to remind you if you'd forgotten.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Fantastic stuff, really like that tentacled head.
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Post by: poipo32
I'm gonna need 1 of these beauties and 1 of the first with a legend head.
The fell beast wings look good but I prefer the angel wings.
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Post by: ghosty
Yeah, i prefere the tentacle head
It just looks so much more slaaneshy.
Damn, i really want one, but the price is out of my feasible range :(
Ahh well, ill just watch and wish
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Post by: Enslaviour
I got 2 of the first style DP's in today and they look even better in person than i thought they would, excellent work.
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Post by: Sersi
So here is the actual finished DP Mark 2:
Since the last time announced a model for sale the thread got instantly derailed with off-topic navel-gazing. I'll just announce it hear. So hears what you get:
The Kit:
She comes is 7 socketed parts: legs, torso, right arm w/ humanoid hand, left arm with crab claw, two wings.
Heads:
They're 3 heads included: a horned head w/ hair, one with large horns & tentacle pony-tail, and a Diaz-style daemonette tentacle head w/ 18 full pose-able tentacles! I will probably to at least two more head variants.
Weapons:
Their are 3 weapons: a spear, sword, and thorn whip. Additional bits include: optional armor plates. a shoulder pad for the right arm, a full breast plate & back plate, left and right spiked and jeweled armor breast cups (in case you only want cover one breast), and a cloth-like bikini top.
I'll be posting up some additional pictures of the parts not shown above shortly, the kit will still be $50 and should be up on E-bay by Friday. Incidentally, there is still 1 Mark 1 DP left here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160439834011&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1154
PS:
Everyone who already bought DP #1, will be all the extras sent to you for free! That's right you will also be getting the alternate heads, armor, weapons, cloths, and two new arms with humanoid hands. Just my way of saying thank you for your support.
Other things:
1. DP Mark 3 is being worked on, and should be ready this week.
2. The Soul Grinder is undergoing some extensive HR Giger inspired carving and detailing.
3. The large KOS is getting re-worked to bring out the musculature, and anatomy.
4. My re-envisioned fiends are nearly done, save for the alternate heads.
...and work permitting I may even paint a squad of daemonettes...hah!
More Later!
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Post by: gameandwatch
DAMMNIT MAN DONT GIVE gak FOR FREE!!!...Jkjk, damn Sers, I wish I had my stuff in Seattle so I could work on it a bunch, ah well, in due time! Keep up the good work!
Just a tidbit question, ok Im a little fuzzy chaos wise, but I am assuming that is a single horn on the left side of her head, if so, isnt it more of a tzeench thing to have the asymetrical horns? am I wrong?
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Post by: Sersi
Awww...those parts are small though.....
Yeah, were's your new stuff man? The 6th edition Daemonettes (Diaz-nettes) all have a asymmetrical horns.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Yeah, stuff is in Pennsylvania at the moment, tryin to get a salary payin job as apposed to QA contracts, but its hard with the whole no one hiring entry level people. But, I am now in SEATTLE!! Which is cool, lotta companies out here. I wanna work on and finish my DOOM nids soooo bad...
As for the deamonettes, that is interesting that they have gone that direction, so I guess forget what I said... IGNORE MEEE!!!
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
Tentacle head girl is still cool. And I'm liking the idea of adding some Gigerness to the soul grinder. I'd personally buy 1 of your fine, fine daemon princes for my personal collection if I wasn't concerned about keeping my wallet at least halfway intact
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Post by: calypso2ts
Sersi wrote:
Everyone who already bought DP #1, will be all the extras sent to you for free! That's right you will also be getting the alternate heads, armor, weapons, cloths, and two new arms with humanoid hands. Just my way of saying thank you for your support.
Wow this is awesome, thank you very much I am looking forward to the 'care package' coming in. I will definitely throw some posts in when I get her painted, I am holding off right now while I 'perfect' the flesh tones and shading I plan to use on some practice models (did some Daemonettes, the Masque and other Daemon Princes in progress as well). A note on the assembly, I was amazed how well everything fit into place with minimal trimming and very limited filling with GS for gaps, I will take a look for some metal studs so I can drill her wings out. I am still toying with how to make them 'detachable' so that if someone (ie small child) does send her for a trip they are free to 'break' off without compromising the model itself.
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Post by: Sersi
Lord Kaesar II:
Yeah, I've been studying some Giger art books i picked up online...um...wow! I saw a Giger Slaaneshi chariot the other day, and I must make at least 4 of those. August can't get here fast enough I wants my plastic seekers. The new mounts look great and are a lot beefier that the old ones.
I also started on sculpting some Giger-esque bits to cast up to convert up the vehicles for some true-scale Emperors Children; I want to make to go along with my other Slannesh army.
By the way here are the links to the new ebay sales:
Daemon Princess # 1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448320117&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_614wt_1138
Daemon Princess # 2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448326299&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT#ht_596wt_1138
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Post by: metallifan
That's it. I'm buying one for the old lady.
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Post by: Anti-Mag
metallifan wrote:walker90234 wrote:u should do 2 demonettes like.. y'know... coupling...
Or you could just... y'know... keep your spanking habits to yourself.
Golf Clap
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Post by: MeatShield
Paint some demonic flesh for the love of slaanesh!
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Post by: AvatarForm
Sorry for arriving late... but since its tl;dr 25 pages after the first:
How do I order one of these?
New seekers being released in August guaranteed?
Would your DP scale onto a direct conversion for having the legs replaced with a boob worm lower half?
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Post by: Cor Angars
All these boobs makes me wanna collect daemonettes!
Nice models, though I'm a bit freaked out by six boobies, but the more boobs the better!
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Post by: Sersi
AvatarForm wrote:Sorry for arriving late... but since its tl;dr 25 pages after the first:
How do I order one of these?
New seekers being released in August guaranteed?
Would your DP scale onto a direct conversion for having the legs replaced with a boob worm lower half?
The two available princesses can be ordered from the links below:
Daemon Princess # 1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448320117&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_614wt_1138
Daemon Princess # 2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448326299&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT#ht_596wt_1138
If you want to convert her to a snake like lower body, a boob worm is far, far to small. However, a Tyranid Trygon body and tail would look pretty good. Something like this guys wonder full work:
Here's his web address:
http://myfantasyminiatures.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/hello-world/
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Post by: Wehrkind
Awesome... as soon as my house is back together and I can unpack all my painting stuff I might have to order the new one and get the original decked out
Also, it is really cool you are sending the new bits to those who ordered. Class act, right there my friend
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Post by: Stephen Bond
I WANT ONE NOW *looks in wallet* NOOOOO
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Post by: gameandwatch
Wehrkind wrote:Awesome... as soon as my house is back together and I can unpack all my painting stuff I might have to order the new one and get the original decked out
Also, it is really cool you are sending the new bits to those who ordered. Class act, right there my friend 
Yeah, thats Sersi, and thats why hes gonna cast my DOOM stuff when needed right?
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Post by: dadadda
Yes, it's my Keeper of Secret. You can see my daemoniac legion on my signature.
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Post by: Lord Axiom
Sersi, I've been following this since page 4, and every update here keeps my modeling fires stoked! Thanks for giving me things to look forward to during my deployment, keep up the stellar work, and I'll be fighting to be first in line for DP #3, that kneeling pose is phenomenally dynamic!
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Post by: NuclearMessiah
I knew that model looked familiar that I bought on ebay yesterday. Great work and I look forward to getting my copy.
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Post by: LadyCassandra
Well just found (and read) this thread, and through it DakkaDakka on a google images search for Slaanesh (risky, I know) and just loved your Daemon Princesses. They're absolutely beautiful, much better for a Slaanesh army than the current and new plastic DPs. Plus they would go so well with my FW KoS  . However, my army has somewhat of a 'no claws' theme, since they're not Slaanesh per se, they're creatures spawned from a minor Chaos God. Do the Daemon Princesses come with an option to remove all the claws from them, that is, human arms on both sides? Does that beautiful sword the crouching DP has, come with the running one with the glorious loincloth? Do you ship to the UK?
I know its a lot of questions  but I just want to know if I can snatch the running one from eBay, or if I need to wait for the third one to be cast up for the human arms and badass sword.
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Post by: Sersi
LadyCassandra wrote:Well just found (and read) this thread, and through it DakkaDakka on a google images search for Slaanesh (risky, I know) and just loved your Daemon Princesses. They're absolutely beautiful, much better for a Slaanesh army than the current and new plastic DPs. Plus they would go so well with my FW KoS  . However, my army has somewhat of a 'no claws' theme, since they're not Slaanesh per se, they're creatures spawned from a minor Chaos God. Do the Daemon Princesses come with an option to remove all the claws from them, that is, human arms on both sides? Does that beautiful sword the crouching DP has, come with the running one with the glorious loincloth? Do you ship to the UK?
I know its a lot of questions  but I just want to know if I can snatch the running one from eBay, or if I need to wait for the third one to be cast up for the human arms and badass sword.
Wow...has it been that long already?!! Yikes...I need to get posting again. All of the Princesses come with the two alternate humanoid hands/arms, along with the claw one so you can use either or use all for to make a "Many armed monstrosity" if you like. All three also come with the sword, two different spears, a whip and a dagger! I really need to take some new pics tonight and post them up. There is also a third tentacle/pony-tail head, optional armor plates, a clip on buster, and other clothing to cover the "naughty bits", etc. The crouching one will be on sale this Saturday.
Oh, and I ship everywhere! At least on earth anyway.
And yes I have an actual update to post....so more later!
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
son, can i just buy these off you from your home? i live in round lake...
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Post by: Scrazza
really Amazing thread.
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Post by: FantasyBob
i'm new here but i'm following this work from the start and i think it's awesome! you hava a great skill at sculpting.
anyway......looking around DeviantArt i heve found this:
http://fav.me/d2c8qn5
i hope you like it and have inspiration ftom it!
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Post by: Sersi
TyraelVladinhurst:
Round Lake that just a stones toss from here. If you want to swing by and pick it up we can do that. Just send me a PM.
Scrazza:
Thank you. I promise to gets some new stuff up this weekend. The response to the Daemon Princesses was far greater than anticipated.  I figured 2-3 sure but 30? I'm working hard to get everything cast and shipped out. That includes the extras for the models that went out first. Oh and I finally started painting!
FantasyBob:
Awww.... Trap marine! I've followed Imric1251 work on Deviantart for years. One day I'll find the time to post my stuff up their too...eventually...stupid work... I working on a Truescale Emperor's Children army using "Count's As". I'm really looking forward to the TV-style conversions.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Honestly, hate to interrupt your workin on the fiend sers, but if you want it too look fast, then the upper body should have a high amount of lean forward to it, to indicate speed. Otherwise, it looks like its prancing, maybe you should check out some dinos(raptors and such) for an idea!
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Post by: Sersi
Ooh!...feedback.... <squeals> I was beginning to feel a bit un-loved.
No comment on the DP huh? Oh well...
On the fiends I'll be sure to get the others into a more sprinting poses. This one has more of a playful, lunging to catch you in brutal hug pose going on. Although I'm giving them the traditional crab claws, since mine run around on two legs, the other two limbs will be humanoid hands with long grasping fingers. Clawed of course!
For the heads I'm doing several different things, so a few traditional tube heads, humanoid heads, etc. Using "Slave to Darkness" as a reference on those.
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Post by: Fexor
Wow, your wings are exceptional. I know I'm a bit late on the posting. But damn, that's awesome work, what you do with sculpting I can only do with a pencil and paper, I'm in awe of your skill.
Very impressive work.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Amazing stuff. I wish I had found this thread sooner, given some input as you were doing things. But I'm sure you're far from finished.
[cliché]Keep up the good work![/cliché]
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Post by: gameandwatch
Oh sorry, the demon princesses wise have always been fairly high quality, i think the long hair one is nice, but honestly i think that flesh whip will be a big seller... keep it up bro!
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Post by: Morgrim
Humanoid limbs coming from the abdomen of the fiend definitely would give a creepy, faintly repulsive vibe that would work well with the elegance. So, perfectly slaaneshii as usual. I love the legs actually, the little patch of scale texture on the thighs just brings them to life. Are you keeping the back foot bulky where it touches the ground for balance purposes or is it still being worked on?
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Post by: Sersi
Fexor:
Thanks those wings went through many iterations to get to where they are now.
Nightbringer's Chosen:
Late or early any and all input is appreciated. Thanks for looking.
Gameandwatch:
Thanks. I just like the name "flesh whip" all kinds of innuendo can be read into it. I think I'll paint the veins to a "throbbing" purple.
Morgrim
See there now we're talking. I want the hands to be kind of long, thin, and bony. Actually, I had the image of the Jabberwok from "Alice in Wonderland" in mind while working on it. The butt/pelvic region and torso are feminine and vaguely human, enough for a guardsman to be like "Oh Yeah!" then you look up from the jiggly bits at the rest and scream for your Emperor.
On the back foot I was waiting for the putty to setup. Once I pop it off the base I'll be doing quite a bit of carving on it. So, the ankle will be thinner when done.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
A few miscellaneous suggestions, if I may?
You're going for a 'fall of the Eldar' sort of thing, yes? Well, I know the current Eldar are more restrained than the ones who initially ripped the galaxy a new Eye, but who's to say they're completely immune to their impulses, especially when helped a bit by Slaanesh's followers.
Perhaps have a unit of Banshees stripping off their armor, symbolically abandoning their lifes of devotion and balance, as they give in to their baser desires? Either as a counts-as unit or just as a diorama sort of thing.
Perhaps a helpless-looking Farseer as his retinue crumbles around him, 'turning' to the enemy's side in the same way as above?
You have some good options for terrain, too.
What would be more 'difficult' than trying to make your way across a field of others giving in to their carnal natures and begging you to join them? (well, okay, lava would be more difficult, but still..) I'd say the hesitation would warrant a difficult terrain test, definitely. Maybe have it only count as such for infantry, though, unless you want to say that tank drivers have a chance to veer away at the last moment to avoid plowing over such a lovely sight, falling into a ditch in their haste.
Perhaps some sort of tentacled field of doom and pleasure counting as dangerous terrain?
As for models to use, I'd look into the slaves from Asdrubael Vect's Pimpwagon. There are only two of them, but they'd look great on the bases of other, larger models, as parts of terrain, etc, and I'm sure you can do something with getting a few more poses out of them and such. And perhaps something can be done with the Daemonettes from last edition; personally, I think they look better, though as metal you have far fewer options for easy customization.
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Post by: JMZ
Hey Sersi, Definitely liking the new head with horns, probably my favorite of them sofar. My only dislike on that model is her hand that is grasping the whip, looks really small to me.
The fiend looks pretty cool sofar, looking forward to seeing the rest of it and then the other poses you come up with.
Keep on truckin'
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Nightbringer's Chosen:
Those are some interesting ideas. My grinder is a corrupted/enslaved Farseer, perhaps I should fuse the retinue into the throne of the vehicle. Six members for for each of the legs. I like it! One its very Giger-esque. Two is similar to Lucius armor of trapped soul. Very, Slaaneshi and chaotic... Must sketch out these ideas.
I wonder if the Dark Eldar will have any models to filch. I've always loved that the Eldar have their own private Devil after them. The whole Eldar/Slannesh/Dark Eldar trinity is wonderfully fluff. Damn it now I wants some Eldar and Dark Eldar.
JMZ:
They do look kinda small but I wanted realist proportions rather that have ridiculously large toon hands like the GW KOS. I do have some bigger grasping hands I did a while ago and discarded....hmmm...I may have to look into that again. Thanks for the feedback.
Oh and I just bought this here:
Man, I just love harbor freight, seriously a 5 gallon paint pot for $80! My little 2 1/2 gallon pot cost that much. Strangely you can by both the 2.5 & 5 gallon pots for $80 a piece on their website...crazy.... Anyway I should have it in a few days. I'll document its re-purposing to the "dark Art" of miniature casting for the tutorial forum to when it arrives in a few days. I also got a 20 gallon air tank for silent air-brushing in the wee hours.
Anyway, I'm to sketch chaotic things for my Dark God...er...Goddess...
More Later!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Sersi wrote:I wonder if the Dark Eldar will have any models to filch. I've always loved that the Eldar have their own private Devil after them. The whole Eldar/Slannesh/Dark Eldar trinity is wonderfully fluff. Damn it now I wants some Eldar and Dark Eldar.
Wyches, perhaps, particularly the Succubus, maybe a couple of the named characters with some heavy modding. Though honestly, I'd say the Dark Elf (Fantasy) Witch Elves would be better, just toss in a few bits here and there to bring them into the 41st century. They could totally pass for Eldar that have shucked their armor. Could probably do something with their sorceresses, too. And the Dark Eldar models are...well, they feel like they're from the previous edition, quality- and style-wise.
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Post by: Sersi
Hmmm that could work I've already used tones of Dark Elf bits on my daemonettes. I do like those models allot. But aren't the witches metal though?
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Post by: Leonus
Amazing work! I am truly in awe. Of your most recent work, I love the armor of the new DP so far! While I'm not as crazy about the hair as the tentacled one, its a nice alternate option to have when you don't want so many little things that could get broken should it be dropped. The horns remind me strongly of Hellboy, perhaps one of them could be broken? That might be a little bit too similar though. Maybe hanging jewelry between the two horns?
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Post by: Sersi
Okay more pics:
Here are all the kit parts to the DP#2 body:
A quick shot of the DP#3:
I'm carving folds into the cloth at the moment.
More Soon!
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Post by: Cardinal Xaphan
I want to see some paint!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Another idea for you; rather than (or in addition to) having riders on steeds, or fiends, perhaps make some sort of medusa-esque hybrid? The upper bodies of daemonettes or witch elves on the lower bodies of steeds of Slaanesh or Raveners?
Being somewhat unfamiliar with the Demon armies, I'm not sure what you would want them to count as, but I'm sure you'd have plenty of options.
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Post by: Ambull
Something awesome will happen in that chamber! I'm very much looking forward to your writings on the use of the pressure pot. This work is absolutely fantastic, your methods and organization of all of this stuff is very inspiring!
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Post by: Hits_the_spot
I have to say. This is one of the most impressive miniatures blog that i have every browsed though. Some fantastic looking creations, where do you find the time!?
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Post by: Plankwalker
Great to see you posting again Sersi! Amazing work as usual sir.
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Post by: manoknok
Wow, your skill, planning and imagination are to be honest a little daunting! I've been struggling on a fairly basic (by your standards) Marine scuplt for er...two weeks and I'm still not finished!
I think you could probably double your price on ebay also, that is very cheap (in my opinion - and I buy a lot on ebay).
Anyway! I'm just wondering how long each model is taking you? I guess in purely the construction work...
And...how long ago did you start doing sculpting work like this? Have you ever taken classes? The pregnant defiler - minus the legs etc...wouldn't look total out of place on a shelf in a 'normal house'...if you removed the claw marks also...
Excellent, mindboggingly good work! I will now look up your true scale marines. Sigh.
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Post by: LadyCassandra
No, don't double your prices..!
Love the body on DP#3, the straps of cloth and the ring in the centre is really awesome. That sword is gorgeous. Really unsure whether I want the one running or the one crouching now, though the hand on the ground seems a bit off, though I can't put my finger on it, maybe the length of the fingers in relation to each other?
Talking about prices however, do you know when you will be putting up your eBay auctions again? It says you have no auctions at the moment.
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Post by: manoknok
Haha good point!
Your models are terrible. You should be ashamed to sell them at that price. Its daylight robbery.
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Post by: Sersi
Cardinal Xaphan:
Ohhh you done said it now.....  Kidding...kidding... I actually have painted some Daemon Princess parts. I have tons of not so perfect casts, and several complete tester models. If not for the sucking I post ups some pics to quell the masses.  The important thing <or so I tell myself> I am learning. But yeah I will try to post some whips this weekend! I swear!
Nightbringer's Chosen:
I was going to do my gorgon like that at first, but honestly I then the more alluring with the chicken legs.
Ambull:
I'm really excited about the bigger pressure pot as it allows allot of things. Its huge! The dimensions are 14" diameter x 26-3/8" height. My older pot is only 10" diameter x 13" height. So twice as tall and a good deal wider. This is important because I want to get into 12"-24" figure kits. Oh, and at some point I'll be casting TS vehicles for my TS Marine projects, and titans etc, etc... I'll probably fit it with a removable rack of selfs so I can double and layer the molds. Whatever, i do with the thing you'll see it here on Dakka first.
Hits_the_spot:
Thanks! What's the saying, if its important to you you'll make the time for it.
Plankwalker:
Thank you.
manoknok:
Naaah! the price of the models is fine. That way their available to more players. The moneys nice of course but, I'm sinking most of it back into tools, and hobby related toys by the way. But mostly I put them out because people asked and Its just so cool that people want to buy them.
How long does it take to model? not very long really. I could probably do something comparable to the DP in a day at my current skill level, assuming that I had a good idea of what I want to do. But I tend to not waffle and noodle around rather than do detailed concepts first like I should. So, remove the large block of time that involve just sitting staring into space for inspiration I'm pretty fast. At work using Z-brush I totally own, but sculpting 8+ hours a day on the computer will do that for you. That and having a concept artist work everything out for you in advance really helps.
I have an art degree, but you can learn the most important thing in any good figure drawing class. Sculpting is just learning to see. Basically, you keep turning the model, while consulting you reference and correcting mistakes. When you don't see anymore you done...or you've been staring at the ting to long. That's were getting a second opinions really helps.
Here are some links to the books that have helped my most:
The first one pretty old but if you read it an apply it, it will teach you more about sculpting that most classes will; and you can't beat the price. The language is a little hard to understand as it a British and nearly 100 years old.
http://www.amazon.com/Modelling-Sculpting-Figure-Edouard-Lanteri/dp/0486250067/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279866430&sr=8-5
This book is like a modern companion to the one above and the only I seen that teaches relief sculpture in an easy to understand and practical way. I also teaches correct seeing, and a how to properly apply scale. That and its not nearly as wordy as the book above, speaking on the subject plainly and concisely. I highly recommend it.
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/sculpting-from-life---a-studio-manual-of-the-sight-size-method/1340465
This is another classic, that will teach you reams on anatomy. I actually sculpted the project in the book and learned something new on every page.
http://www.amazon.com/Modeling-Figure-Clay-Sculptors-Anatomy/dp/0823030970/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
The same guy also tackles the head here.
http://www.amazon.com/Modeling-Head-Practical-Craft-Books/dp/0823030997/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279866483&sr=8-23
I also like this one for polymer clay, I've chatted with author several times before online. She's a master sculptor and a real sweetheart.
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Lifelike-Figures-Polymer-Clay/dp/0823015033/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279866469&sr=8-2
Hope that helps!
LadyCassandra:
You have a good I good eye the that hand was really messed up so I've re-sculpted it. DP#3 with come with a couple of different options for that arm. One resting on the ground, one clutching a second weapon, and one just far enough off the ground to place a smooshed space marine under.  I've also modified the head to fit her, so she's looking at her opponents rather than at than staring at her own boobs. I'm also adding belted scabbard for her sword and some cloth streamers to the rings on the sides of the legs, and a choker style collar, with a soul-stone pendant.
You scared me with the auction question... Their still up for another 8hrs at least. There one DP#2 left and six DP#1's. here are the links:
DP#1:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448320117&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_614wt_1138
DP#2:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160448326299&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_596wt_1138
manoknok:
It's funny you should say that, because I think that very thing every time I post pictures. Yeah, I may have some hobby related self-esteem issues. But that's now surprise because their are some many great artists here. I don't even post on coolminiornot anymore for fear of getting a complex.
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Post by: LadyCassandra
That sounds really awesome for the DP3, with the choker and a selection of arms and such. Definitely will get the crouching one I think, any tips on getting plastic dragon wings to warp without gassing myself?
The eBay auctions have definitely ended now, but I was getting an issue where if I clicked on ferrusangelus and then Items for Sale, it would say there were none available :\.
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Post by: Boss Salvage
Sersi wrote:You have a good I good eye the that hand was really messed up so I've re-sculpted it. DP#3 with come with a couple of different options for that arm. One resting on the ground, one clutching a second weapon, and one just far enough off the ground to place a smooshed space marine under.  I've also modified the head to fit her, so she's looking at her opponents rather than at than staring at her own boobs. I'm also adding belted scabbard for her sword and some cloth streamers to the rings on the sides of the legs, and a choker style collar, with a soul-stone pendant.
Saw one of your resin chicks at Wehrkind's house last week and I'm certainly considering picking up DP #3 ... $50 is a bit steep for a model I have no gaming plans for, but then again I could probably squish her into my CSM or something - Salvage
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Post by: KingoftheJuice
I am very interested to see how this turns out after painting. Your sculpting and modeling is amazing!!
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
WOW!!!!
Spent 5 1/2 hours reading this thread. Totally engrossing. I love it.
At several points while reading I was talking to my screen and the wife is looking at me funny. Then she looked
She loves your work as well. She dropped her jaw when I showed her the quality of your work and Forge Worlds side by side. You are by far more organic and fluid. Your work is stunning.
Her jaw dropped when I showed her the price comparison as well.
If I may suggest one thing for your Soul Grinder.
Another post suggested a retinue, and I fully agree. But my idea is that they should be near the head, cradling and cooing to the daemon. Stroking her head and patting her shoulder. Perhaps even a retinue leader with a whip ready over the supplicants.
When you put her up for sale Im so there, and plan to coat her in as much watered down glue as possible for a wet and dripping OMG look.
The Soul Grinder is a Masterpiece, and if your looking for a name that wont make GW raise their brows at you. I would like to humbly suggest " Mother of Suffering".
Awesome work, Im going to go get some home stuff done I have neglected reading your thread, and then jump over to your other works.
Again simply stunning, I am a lifetime fan and prostrate myself before your vision.
Thank you for everything and above all
Thank you for sharing your vision.
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Post by: manoknok
Hi Sersi,
Yes that is awesome! Thanks!
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Post by: ExtremeMetalFTW
Sersi wrote:
And lastly a picture with the scabbard:
While working on the scabbard it occurred to me that unless the thing was much larger that the actual sword, you could never pull the sword out. But that doesn't look nearly as cool, but she's a daemon, so maybe it phases through the scabbard or whatever...
Anyway, I'm off to work.
More Later!
This may be a weird idea, but suppose the scabbard were made of "jellied" souls? That way, it could stretch to accommodate the weapon and allow a slick, swift draw?
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
The head on that last one seems a bit disproportionate to me...though it may just be the horns...tough to tell...
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Post by: wraith373
Sersi, FYI, alot of the larger swords and bladed polearms of history didn't slide all the way out the top, often times the scabbards were open almost all the way down the back, so that the sword could be pulled out quicker. Hope that gives you an idea as to how you are going to mannage that thing on the ground.
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Post by: metallifan
It doesn't have to make sense in any way. Rule of Cool says so.
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Post by: Wehrkind
Very awesome  Might have to pick one up, though I am really trying to cut back on lust buying models I don't have an army for :( You should just cast your figures in uncut meth and be done with it!
Also, thanks for the book references! It is always good to see what people whose work you respect are using to learn, considering how much raw info is out there, and how much of it is crap. I will be picking up two or three to read on the blessed day I have less class time and quit my bloody job. Exalt!
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Post by: DeathKorp
Really love our work
Will there be new Ebay auctions?
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Post by: Sersi
metallifan:
True..true the rule of cool must be obeyed.
Wehrkind:
Thank you. Good luck with the references they're all truly great books that have a great deal to teach. I know every time I re-read them I gain new insights, after all the basic of learning to draw, sculpt, or paint copying others to gain experience. So, its very important that you pick the right people to emulate. That and being comfortable with your tool of choice. You really have to get to the point where your tools are just extensions of your hands. I probably have 40+ tools but only use 2 for 99% of my sculpting.
DeathKorp:
Thank you! I'll have new auction up by the end of the week for the DP 1, 2, 3.
Updates:
I had to re-mold the DP 1 &2 as the mold were breaking down and starting to lose their crisp detail. I been casting so many copies that the heavily textured parts, like the wings and heads were literally shredding the molds. That and the fast that and numerous tiny undercuts created by crevices in various parts were ripping out chunks of silicon..
I also didn't keep the first pulls form the molds....stupid. So I had to use the original sculpts to make new molds. Sadly, a lot of the original parts suffered damage when they were cut out of the original molds. Necessitating allot of patching and re=sculpting of details.  It took three #$$%!!! days to get done, and prevented me from doing other neat stuff. Ah well...
Notice I went heavy on the venting this time, using recycled sprue...
Oh and I finally got myself 2 boxes of Seekers to play with... So, you can expect to see 4 Heralds in Chariots soon.
Also, their are like 30 DP's out is their and not one of you has posted up a single picture...for shame!  And yes I have not forgotten the promised bits for though early purchasers. Your swords hands and assorted bit are going in the mail this weekend.
Anyway, more later!
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Post by: Timonth
I'm not a fan of those Ogre's. But that bigger Deamon you are sculpting is beautiful! The wings are very neat, very well done.
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Post by: DeathKorp
Yeey
I want to get one...or two!
Earlyer in this Thread you said it would be possible to ship to Europe? Just asking because i cant change the shipping location from US to something else and so dont know if Europe would be higher shipping cost?
best regards
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Post by: Sersi
Flat rate shipping to Mexico or Canada is $11.45. Everywhere else its $13.45. If you buy multiples they can all ship in the same box of course.
I have the first DP#3 hardening in my new pressure pot, so if all goes well pics withing the hour! I hope....
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I love slaneesh and what you've done with it, you are a great artist.
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Post by: Father Gabe
they look fantastic
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Post by: Wehrkind
You know, looking at it like that just now, she totally needs a she-wolf head. Looking at the pose instantly brought to mind the opening canto of Dante's Inferno. Hrm... might be an interesting possibility...
Anyway, I am really looking forward to the books (and kind of hoping the wife picks them up for my birthday, my own funds being a little tight) and definitely hear you on the sculpting practice. I just realized yesterday that I have been using the same Imex brush for 4 years (!) for about 80% of all my strokes. Definitely an example of it becoming an extension of myself, I use it for everything from pupils and tiny details to base coats. A fine use of 8$
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Post by: gameandwatch
Very Impressive sersi, now I am sure everyone wants to see your army painted, or atleast I do, sexy armies need ot be sexy played, and to be played they must be painted....sexfully speaking
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Post by: weetyskemian44
there is nothing like an army thats full of tits and ass. However in the interest of equality in evil I propose to build an army of sh-long daemons - full of phallic imagery and shiny helmets!!! I have a feeling the won't let me display it here though...
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Post by: l33tninj4
This is truly amazing work; too bad that you can't use it in the LA bunker. For some reason the manager demands everything be 100% GW product and family friendly at the same time.
On a side note: the legs on your Soul Grinders remind me of ballet boots, was that the intention?
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Post by: Happygrunt
gameandwatch wrote:Sexy armies need to be sexy played, and to be played they must be painted....sexfully speaking
Fixed and Sigged.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
THis is the coolesst deamon army ive ever seen. I kinda wish i played deamons now..
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Post by: Empchild
Just ordered your #2 princess, and Ican't wait!!!
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Post by: Sersi
Stuff:
I finally go my Seekers yeah! The horrible...horrible things I'll do to those minis. The steeds are so awesome, so much character and detail. Must, not consider re-sculpting the wyrms to match the newer seekers. Also must not consider sculpting new steeds for my pleasureseekers to match the newer seeker design.... Damn...I thought about it and I actually like the idea.
Hears what I'm working on at the momment:
1. Still working on designs for my 4 giger-esque chairots, that will be drawn by the new plastic seekers.
2. Working of a heavily giger-esque theme throne for the Soul Grinder.
3. I'm molding the Soul Grinder's occupant this weekend. First pull be Sunday evening, if my skill in the "Dark Arts" be strong enough.
4. Working on special daemonette characters to represent: the Masque, skull-taker, the changling, the blue scribes and Epidimus
5. Converting riders for and reposing 30 or so seekers
6. Cleaning up the casts of 13 DP's that have to ship out tomorrow.
Replies:
Timonth:
Thank you for the kind words. People either love or hate the ogres being included. I'll be going back over them to sell the glutton aspects, and I think when they're pained they'll be better tied into the army as a whole.
weetyskemian44:
Thank you! Their are actual some very large phallic send offs is this army. The DP's "fleash whips" have throbbing veins for a reason buddy!  That and when um...er...stiff it can serve as lance.
Father Gabe:
Thanks! Love the avatar by the way...I don't recall catholic school being nearly as awsome though.
Wehrkind:
Good luck with the books I'm sure that they'll help tons, I find myself refering to the Edouard Lanteri book almost daily. Oh, I forgot to metion it but he also has two onther books, that are equally good on sculpting animals. Instruction from the guy that taught Roudin should be good enough for anybody!
gameandwatch
Thankspal! I have to make a confession here. I been procrastinating on painting this army cause I'm scared I'm not good enough yet to do it justice. I don't want to paint them to just table top quality and I have to much pride to have someone else do it for me...sigh. But, gotta get started. So, I'm starting the first squads on daemonettes tomorrow. I plan to speed a week on those 10 little minis and a equal number of Black Templars. I will get this done. Although, the suck maybe great initially.
l33tninj4
Not really surprised I've met some GW that don't like heavy conversions or even True scale stuff. Another reason to never game there.
Happygrunt:
Oh I've played them un-painted, against an almost equally gray IG army...man I love/hate IG. But paint is coming, just remember that you all asked for it! Anybody, know any good Chicagoland painters willing to take on a disciple, let me know.
P.S. Im serious here...help...
Happygrunt
It is never to late to sell your soul...er...sign up with Chaos. We have a great medical plan, and Pie!
Empchild
Hey thanks for the sale! You will not be disappointed sir. They look much better in person <ie. my photography skills suck...>. This ofcourse means that you'll post up painted pics right?
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Post by: Xenon
Damn those are some nice princess.. But I have a question. How many are you going to make those? And nice blog anyway!
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Post by: NostrilOfTerror
I don't know how you could use them, but freebooter makes a few types of naked female sculpts that you could use for different things. Put them on DP Bases, have them 'counts as' a daemonette thats sort of 'undercover' or just looks hot. You should take a look at them, either on the freebooter webside, or Eledamris has posted a few pics of them with his daemonettes somewhere in P&M (In 'Post your best Daemons here' page 1)
Again... no idea what you could use them for.
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Post by: Jackofblackhearts
Sersi, absolutely stunning work here, I love absolutely all of it! I particularly find myself pining for the male KOS you sculpted. I love the artwork of him, and to have one for real would be incredible!
Are you still planning on molding him and possibly selling them? If so do you have a timescale they might be ready on?
Thanks!
Jack
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Post by: Empchild
Sersi wrote:Stuff:
Empchild
Hey thanks for the sale! You will not be disappointed sir. They look much better in person <ie. my photography skills suck...>. This ofcourse means that you'll post up painted pics right?
you are most deffinately correct on that one good sir. Ever day I check the mail with anticipation.
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Post by: ceorron
Oh this is awsome, they are some of the coolest self built Keepers/Daemon Princes (or should that be Daemon Princesses) I have ever seen. Buying one
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Hah haah! just noticed the suggestive flesh whips! You've gotta love slaneesh, what a great way to be evil. Makes me wana go to hell when I die
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
Entertainingly enough, your work is what made me get a log in for this site, I am thinking about getting one of your demons, however I want to see the soulgrinder done first, (I might want her instead first)  , I mainly have been painting for the last few years on some commision work and some just likeing the toy soldiers. You may have me starting back into 40k now...after a hiatus since 3rd edition power creep. So... I know who to send my wife yelling at!  Your work is amazing, and you have earned the compliments and laurels given to you. So on that note finsh her throne so I can decide!  As for suggestions on the throne, I was thinking a lavishly covered tattoo/barber chair with a rod above it for chain suspension, perhaps having individual cushions instead of the mono pillow like ones though. I have a drawing somewhere of what I am thinking of, but it will have to wait till I find it.
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Post by: Lhunara
Sersi, you are a god!
or wait that's blashemy... Slaneesh is the only real god!
anyway..
I've been drooling at your work since the beginning, but never realised that you would actually sell them :O
I've been looking for just the right KoS for my army, and your princess models are just.. amazing!
Bothers me a bit that they only have 2 arms for a KoS though, but still by FAR the best model for it ive come across at a resonable price (DAMN YOU FORGEWORLD!)
Now the only problem is... should i buy 2 or 3 or both... decisions, decisions :(
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Post by: MeatShield
Lhunara wrote:Sersi, you are a god!
or wait that's blashemy... Slaneesh is the only real god!
anyway..
I've been drooling at your work since the beginning, but never realised that you would actually sell them :O
I've been looking for just the right KoS for my army, and your princess models are just.. amazing!
Bothers me a bit that they only have 2 arms for a KoS though, but still by FAR the best model for it ive come across at a resonable price (DAMN YOU FORGEWORLD!)
Now the only problem is... should i buy 2 or 3 or both... decisions, decisions :(
Um... Then drill, pin and glue on two more arms. Stock models are for space marines, not chaos!
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
MeatShield wrote:
Um... Then drill, pin and glue on two more arms. Stock models are for space marines, not chaos!
Space Marines you say... somewhat tempted now to commit the atrocity of buying one of the dps and giving her some scant power armour... need to investigate further though, before making an investment. Cool idea? Yes. Good idea? Maybe. Fiscally sound idea? Erm.... I dunno
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Post by: Ghiest1
I was also looking at the helmet of the Soulgrinder (eldar) and thought it might be neat to have the Farseer symbol on it devolving (or evolving) into a symbol of Slaanesh.
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Post by: Lhunara
MeatShield wrote:
Um... Then drill, pin and glue on two more arms. Stock models are for space marines, not chaos!
hmm good point! And we DO get a lot of extra arms <3
then i just have to figure out which one, they're all SO awesome!! but i'll never get to field 3 lords as daemon and rarely even 2 :(
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
For those that don't know Sersi has posted more of his Princesses on Ebay, ( heh I got mine !  ) definiately take a look at this guys stuff. Just type in Demon Lord, should find it.
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Post by: Ghiest1
So, another thought on the throne, a large set lips or a mouth, with a long tongue sticking out as the cushion, and have it sliding under her to hit the base.
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Post by: sennacherib
You may have already answered this question but....
are you sculpting with sculpy. that stuff that you bake to finish it. It looks like you are. i usually start my sculpts with that stuff and then finish with green stuff. Looks great BTW.
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Post by: Soul of Iron
Love your work. Been thinking of picking up one of your DPs.
I would love to buy a score of those sculpted wings as well. Daemonette furies would be sooo damn cool!
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Post by: neil101
wouldnt even know where to begin on what you do and how you do it, needles to say it must take a lot of time and commitment to create such beautifull models. makes me want to collect slanesh , and i dont even game!
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
So I got my princess today, and am very impressed with the sculpt as well as the lack of flash and mould lines. Upon pulling the wings out my wife was immediately intersted in them as thier detail is rather fantastic, (they might end up a purple due to this). There are many options that were included in the kit and I am very pleased with it. Now, to remember how to paint resin  ..as I have not painted resin since my cannon of Khorne was new out of the box. I will attempt to post it with the coveings he kindly provided once she is painted. Thanks Sersi!
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Post by: Sersi
Ghiest1:
Glad you like her. I make a point to not ship models with flash, pin holes, or mold lines; because if I were paying my hard earned money, I'd expect it too. That's "Sersi Quality"  I like your idea for the mouth and tongue image, but I'll probably use that for a chariot. I will probably use the melting Farseer symbol idea as well.
neil101:
Thank you!
sennacherib:
I use sculpey for the bigger models, its okay if you going to cast the model anyway, but to fragile for regular gaming use otherwise. Although I been practicing sculpting minis in the lately. Oh Feral Wood Elf army in the works...
Soul of Iron:
Thanks, If you want some wings for your daemonettes, just PM me I'll hook you up.
Oh yeah an update or something this weekend....maybe....okay, definitely.
More Later!
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Post by: joshoftheforest
You're back!
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Post by: Element206
fantastic
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Post by: LadyCassandra
Bit of an odd request, I'm sure, but how much would it be for the torso of DP#3, I think it would work really nicely for a conversion of mine.
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Post by: Sersi
Just a torso? Uh...okay send me a PM and we'll talk.
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Post by: Sageheart
these models are amazing, been looking through your work, it is greatt!
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Post by: Melkhiordarkblade
I was wondering if you are going to make your Slaanesh Nurglings,I'd love to see them,I'd like to make my own some time,do you know any good models to start with?,I can't really buy 5 packs of familiers just for that one small Slaanesh imp-girl.
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Post by: Sersi
I hadn't really though much on nurgling replacement models. Nurglings are only really good with Epididimus really, and I ca't imaging wanting to field his rules. I agree with you a the Familiar mini though its really static and kinda ugly.
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Post by: Sersi
Hmmm.... I may have changed my mind on the nurgling stand-ins. I'd seen these before but, had only ever seen them in Wyrd's uber dark color scheme.
They need a theme though... How about the being the spawn of daemonettes and human liaisons. Murderous little human/daemon hybrids for the win.
Advantages:
1. They look to be the right scale.
2. They have magically floaty hair just like the current daemonettes.
3. Their creepy little deamon babies...awesome!
4. Just noticed that their anatomically correct.
That said, I'm reasonable sure that I can sculpt some very similar minis in alternate poses, using the Wyrd models as reference. I'll probably add a few to the Soulginder for the extra squick.
Anyway what do you think? Do they fit? Also if anyone have a good alternative please post them up.
More, Later....
(not my painting by the way, this is just for reference, etc...)
Disadvantages:
1. Their metal.
2. Their are only three poses (although that's still better than one)
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Post by: Sageheart
i like them, but i think you can make some better ones!
maybe you cut cut off their arms and put newer ones on? that could be too much work thou
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
So, daemon children born of human women you say, with an appetite for destruction you say... interesting, especially since they do look like little children (besides the whole daemon knife hands). But yes, I concur with Sageheart, I request your hand to be tried at this! They are already cool as is, but, judging by your work with, say, the Soulgrinder, I think you can pull something cool.
I vote Sersi magick. That's it. --Kaesar II
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Post by: Tapeworm
This army just blew me away when I first looked at this blog! The ideas are original and very well executed. To me the most important thing is that you are able to keep the theme consistent throughout all of the different types of daemons. Well done, Sir! I did have a question that has been plaguing me since I finished burrowing through the pages though, are you still planning on finishing the Soul Grinder like you had her in your sketch? Because one of the aspects of that sketch that I thought was just brilliant were the Eldar "wings" under her back. In the earlier pages you had some brass tubing showing where these attached and I don't recall seeing it any more as you got closer to finishing her. Are they still part of the plan? This blog actually got me to register here. Because it seems like I was the only one that noticed that they weren't there, and I feel that they are the finishing touch on an already fantastic model. I plan on getting one of these Soul Grinder models if you cast it, I'm just not sure how to incorporate it into my Death Guard! Thank you for your time and sharing your talent with the rest of us!
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Post by: Sersi
Thanks guys!
Here's what I'm working on right now.
Spawn of Slaanesh?
I put is my order for them today. I can't wait to get started on them; I can already see the poses : skipping, prancing, playing catch with a space marine helmet.  If anyone has good posing ideas please post them.
Soulgrinder:
I finally figured out how I'm going to complete the Soulgrinder's throne, which was interestingly enough inspired by "The Neverending Story"....  Any concept pictures will be up tonight. I've been working on the hand to get them more anatomically correct, as well as some minor work to the face. The throne still needs lots of work, but the rider will get cut up for molding soon. I'll probably make a tutorial on how it was done and the various molding details.
Seekers:
I have 30 of the new seeker modeled, with alternately posed riders, with lances, shields, and lariats (bondage...spam). I kept the saddles as they look really nice as is. I also did some reposing on the legs on the mounts. I'll probably, sculpt them a bit to add some more variation. While I loved the Diaz Seekers models, they just don't come close to the new mounts.
Herald's in chariots:
Since we now have excellent plastic seekers model's I'll be making 4 chariots. I'm using bits ordered HE chariot wheels and bases, with 2 plastic seekers each. The rest will by styrene and aves putty.
Flamers:
I have 10 daemonettes with ghoul arms, and sculpted fireballs in their hands. After seeing Clash of the titans I want to add some daemonettes with bows, as well. Archery is about skill and perfection, which suits Slaanesh's way of warfare, ie Anti-Khorne. I not sure is I want to string sting the bows or add arrows. Maybe just a magical bow, kinda like the Ranger from the old "Dungeons and Dragons" cartoon.
Male Keeper:
The big guy is getting reworked. I've been carving in additional detail, and re-fining and defining the muscles. The feet, and legs are completely hidious so their getting the lion's share of the work. Soon as that's done it getting molded and cast.
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Post by: Wehrkind
If the throne turns into a giant furry snake-dog, I am going to be fairly upset.
Liking the sound of things to come, especially the Slaaneshi archers (good call on that, never thought of it that way) and the spawn idea. I am really curious to see what you do with the seeker mounts too; I really couldn't get past the terrible posing of the legs on the new models, so I kind of blanked out before I could think of possibilities. Looking forward to seeing you make them awesome
And +4 nerd points for referencing the D&D cartoon. I am tempted to get that on DVD and force my wife to watch the entire thing in one sitting, without any explanation of wtf she is seeing. Loved that show as a kid.
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Post by: Santobell
Have a spawn innocently licking a lolly pop but make it a human femur with a chunk of meat still on it instead, have it with a big happy smile and open happy eyes like it's the best treat in the world
Very inspiring work btw very nice!
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
Sersi had been wanting to see some of his "ladies " painted, so I have been very busy and my camera was being wierd that day, but I got some wips for him and you to see. Now when I say wierd, it took some of the photos in B&W. I would like to know weather you like the gloss on the claws or non gloss.
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: LadyCassandra
I think I prefer the non-gloss version, to be honest, though the blending seems better on the glossed one.
OT: Sersi, I received the torso  . It will probably be a while until I get the chance to use it though. Keeping an eye out for the Nightbringer on eBay however.
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Post by: Mellon
I must agree with Cassandra here. I believe the gloss effects causes a disbelief, since they use the natural light in the room to give highlights. The non-gloss lets you (the painter) control the highlights, so you can let them be a part of the place that the "lady" exists in, rather than a part of the place that the viewer and the lighting exists in. I want immersion in the world of the "lady", I want the feeling that I am looking at something that is real in another world, another place. That this model is a reproduction, an image a representation of that thing/person/daemon. I do not want to fell like I am looking at a model.
Do you understand how I feel?
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Post by: Sidstyler
That gives me a thought, would it be interesting to spray a model with gloss to make highlighting easier, and then dulling it down with matte varnish after?
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Post by: Mellon
Sidstyler wrote:That gives me a thought, would it be interesting to spray a model with gloss to make highlighting easier, and then dulling it down with matte varnish after?
If you could set the lighting around the model in such a way that the shadows and highlights would fall in a "natural" way, sure. But I believe it's way more work than it is worth to set that up, and make it so that you could paint the model all over, without it and the sources of light differing in relative position. As a decent middle-ground you could probably set the model up with an appropriate source of light and take a few pics from different angles and paint based on the pics.
But even that might look fake, or at least bland compared to the average rather "cartoonish" look of the 40k universe. If 40k-look is your goal of course...
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Post by: Sersi
Oh wow! That looks great!  I like the painting so far Ghiest1. The contrast between the purple and flesh tone work well together. You also can't go wrong with black armor...unless your me of course I suck at painting black. Is she magnetized? I've thinking about doing that. When I get serious about painting the army, I'll be taking Zenithal highlighting route myself, as you get the highlights fir "free" and the transitions so much smoother.
Be sure to keep us posted.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Sersi,
TY for the kind words. I did attempt to magnet her wings, however they just seem a bit to heavy for the 2 magnet system I was using. So I think I will pin them instead and just make her own personal pillow case. So how goes the Soulgrinder? I cant wait till she is ready  . I will want one of those as well. I also have a friend I showed the wip of the princess to and he really likes her, so expect a email from him as well
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: Sersi
Oh the grinder is going well. I've been taking some figure drawing classes at a local Atelier, which has really helped my anatomical knowledge. There is so much that you can't learn from books...
So, lately I've been correcting some proportions and irregularities: hands and face mostly. I'll be breaking her up into more parts than the previous models. I got so great instructional books on sculpting and kitting Anime figure models off of Amazon Japan. I can't read the text, but their mostly step by step photos anyway. You would not belelive whats possible when you have someone who know what the doing!
I have a goal of having her cast and ready to ship out before mid-December. I also have some concept sketches to post up on the throne/walker when I get home from work.
Later!
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Post by: Sersi
Soulgrinder Concepts:
My new idea for the walker is that its constructed from: marble, precious metals, gemstones and silks. Having lots of mechanical grubbins isn't really working for me' Its not so elegant and a bit busy looking. Giger-esque style machine/flesh is yet another option.
Any way here the concept. Instead of having the occupant supported by a chair/throne thing. I would have 3-5 reclining figures supporting the riders weight. The figures would be very stylized golden statues representing the different aspects of Slaanesh.
Here are some figure studies, daemonic of course.  The would be arrange around the pregger and support her with either 1-2 of their hands.
I kinda like how these turned out, I might clean them up and use them as either banner pics or "nose art" on some Emperor's children vehicles...
I threw this composite together to get an idea of the scaling.
I still haven't be able to come up with a satisfying way to fuse the walker legs into throne/dais. If anyone has a good idea on how to do it, please share.
More, when I'm not dozing off at the keyboard....Later!
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Good to see your still hobbying the good hobby Sersi  Still loving your work.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
I like the people holding her up idea, as for the legs, that is a sticky one, maybe a paniquin? Carried by slaves? Not really sure on this one, I can understand wanting ot stay away from mechanics though. I almost think it could float as well, similar to the anti-grav concept of the eldar? Meh I am probably not helping much on this one ><. Good Luck, and if all else fails I would take a copy of her with out the throune and try to figure out my own
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: Wehrkind
Looks good; the figure drawings are very nice, and will make some good banners as you say
As to the throne/legs, I would try for more of an Eldar Wraithbone machinery look. I think that would mesh nicely with the Geiger flesh/metal theme, but still have that 40k Slaaneshi feel.
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Post by: typhus
For fusing the walker to its legs you could have hooks in the skin of the underside of the legs attached to chains on the metal platform in a kind of hellraiser style.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
This does seem to ceartainly look better, and will be a boon for assembly, as for the claws I like the spiny ones personally, but thats me, there was a model that had a neat one that was closed as well http://www.allancarrasco.net/en/sculpture/commission-works/jmd-miniatures/index.html that looked nifty. Was rather toothy almost like a crocs mouth. Keep up the good work, and waiting to see how the Soulgrinder is going as well
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Post by: LordofSteel
This is some of the coolest  I've ever seen.. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by: Wehrkind
Very cool man. Amazing what a bit of planning on the design before casting can come up with. I love seeing that sort of stuff explained, even if I don't do much casting myself; just learning tricks is great.
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Post by: azekio
YOU GET BETTER AND BETTER!
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Post by: BlutEisenRegel
Best sculpting work I have ever seen in the wargaming universe!
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Post by: Sersi
So, I've been working on the KOS and Soulgrinder tag-team style to get them done by Saturday.
Keeper of Secrets:
First, I've cleaned up the up the seems on the legs. So, when glued together they'll be nearly visible.
Progress on all fronts!  The main claws are done, except for some smaller spike and texturing. I'm working on the head now.
Questions:
1. I want to do at least one alternate head, what would be best: a Minator-style bovine head, or maybe a tentacle face?
2. What else does he need? Piercings, spines? What?
Soulgrinder:
Change of planes, I'm now going with a suggestion from fellow Slaanesh cultist Rudkin from 40Konlinne. We're going back to basic simple on the throne design. Everything I'd come up with so far was overly complex and gaudy. So I going with simple harem style pillows and hanging bolts of silk. Simple, elegant, easy to sculpt...
It's a cop out I know; but the cushions cover up the dias, hide the join between the fleshy legs and the throne, and gives me and excuse to add some little daemonettes lounging around on the platform.
Anyway I went back to super-sculpey for this, why waste Aves sculpt. I'll be testing a new cyclonic oven that I bought to bake my clay sculpts. More on that later...
More Today!
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Post by: sillyboy
Holy gak. That thing is disturbing
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Post by: Wehrkind
I like that quite a bit. Pushes her more towards "Queen of the Damned" sort of territory, which I thought some of the other ideas pulled away from a bit. To my mind it makes a really nice twist on the fertility goddess theme. And by nice, I mean disturbing and awesome
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Post by: Sersi
Hah! The little grey nipple on the Grinder are apparently a photobucket violation. Just Wow!
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Post by: Boss Salvage
Considering it's very likely that I'm buying the male keeper demon you're working on (  ), I'd much prefer an alt tentacle face over a bovine head. The bull thing does nothing for me - ha, while clearly tentacles do Great progress though, glad to see you return to him. Not sure on piercings and stuff, maybe some studs, clavicle or otherwise? Or what about suspension rings? His back is quite broad and mostly empty. And speaking of nipples, is he getting some? I can't say whether I need him to have them (though it's a major peeve of mine when she-monsters don't have nipples, let me tell you  ) ... - Salvage
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Post by: Manchu
Boss Salvage wrote:The bull thing does nothing for me - ha, while clearly tentacles do
Oof, TMI.
@Sersi: Have you any plans to cast these and take orders? (Referring to all non- GW IP, which is most.)
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
Well Sersi, I really don't think it is a cop-out as much a change in direction. I like the idea of the harem  . I aslo have been working on the painting of the DP. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/327227.page at the bottom if you want ot look, sorry I didnt get on when you were ><. I will need to know when you get her cast though, as she has a home here  (also as to when you want the deposit). I will add one pic here and yall can find the rest
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: Sersi
More progess!
Keeper Of Secrets:
Okay the legs/pelvic tie-in are done. Moving on to getting the shoulder/arm tie-in to look good while hiding any obvious seams.
This turned out really nice, actually. Even without glue or magnets the arm stays in place. I still need to finish the opposite shoulder, and carve in the 3 heads of each deltoid muscle.
I cut the fingers off and repositioned them to make the palms of the hands wider as well.
In this picture you can see how the connection slides into place. I should be really easy to magnetize or just glue together.
I also finished the first layer of detailing on the claw arms.
Looking at my reference I still have some work to do on the socket were the claw arms attach.
Here's a better view of the socket. Its got lots of contact surface inside, so pinning shouldn't be needed. Gaahh.... I will be re-sculpting those serratus muscles as well...argh!
Right. Moving on...
Soulgrinder:
I bought this table top oven a couple of months back to bake polymer clay miniatures and one off 12" sculpts. But hadn't tried it out yet. Let me tell you this thing it sweet! Its got precise temperature control, and a built in timer. But the best part is that you can see inside it while its running, and it cooks by swirling heated air around the sculpt. Now I've baked lots of polymer clay in my time, but I've never had it cook hard without at least a little blackening and charing of the thinner parts. That is until now. Must experiment further....
Oh, and as a bonus you can still cook a turkey in the thing...don't tell the wife.
Here's the baked result:
I also started to chop her up for final detailing and molding next week.
That last picture right there even creeped me out. She looks like she should be in a roasting pan or something. Who wants a leg?
Moving on to other disturbing imagery....
Having some very scary searches on the interwebs...  I've decided to go with a shackle bar of the the supporting arms, as it looks very stylized and extremely uncomfortable. A nice contrast to those soft fluffy pillows.
The legs will be shackled with a long chain that wraps around them, binding her so she can't move.
Additional Thoughts:
Finally, I'm considering having some tiny daemonette tormentors ride along; with at least one holding a long chain collaring her throat. I must sketch this idea. Perhaps have one sitting on her shoulder, guardian angle style. Another standing on the pillow whispering Slaanesh only knows what into the tormented Farseer's opposite ear.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
Nice work especially the hands  . As for us telling the wife, nah..we want the mini more then a turkey, well at least I do
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: tyrantguard101
wow
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Post by: FantasyBob
The Soulgrinder is amazing.....the best one you ever post in this tread
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Post by: namegoeshere
You scare me man.
In a good way though  . Awesome stuff, keep it up
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Post by: Sersi
Updates!
I'll keep it short for now and then come back and comment later...TTFN!
Keeper of Secrets:
Okay, we're getting close on this guy. I pulled out my anatomy book and muscle magazines, <hey don't laugh...there for research!> and used my dremel to carve some rough detail into him, as he was looking really smooth and flabby.
Next, I'll buff those areas smooth and add more putty to punch up the muscle definition a bit more.
I'm still working on a more basic head, as I'll be sculpting the variants heads after I get him cast, hopefully this weekend.
Lastly, I'm still trying to come up with a good texture for the lower legs and claws to break up the smooth surfaces there.
Here's his sword. I'm still not sold on the design yet, but all of the Slaanesh swords I've found look even more ridicules. So I don't know where to go with it. do you guys have a suggestion?
Finally, a couple of scale pics. That truescale marine is looking awful puny isn't he?
Terror Tots:
Yes...these will do nicely. Say, what size is a nurgling base and how many minis to a base?
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Wow, lovin all the work and feth! that thing is far bigger than i thought! Awesome!
Nurglings are on a 40mm base and usually 4 or 5 to base, although i would suggest 3 is the bare minimum, anything more is fair game imo.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
Nice work, the "terror tots" are even in scale as if they came out of her  . As for the "guardian angel", I really like this idea with a very thin gold chain, similar to when they train animals and fool them into thinking that they can't escape. A bit evil I know but hey  .
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: Lhunara
Hi Sersi
i see that you only ship to the US now? :S
Any chance you would consider shipping it to, say Denmark?
Thanks in advance
Lhunara aka Vispilia
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Post by: Sersi
Ghiest1:
Yeah, I'm liking the idea of the "Guardian Angels". I really love those terror tot models. I'll be sculpting some, for sure. I'd love to have them spread throughout the army. Riding on a Glutton's shoulder, or sitting on the Soulgrinder's knees for instance, or just menacing some of the larger models bases.
tyrantguard101:
Thanks you.
FantasyBob:
Thanks, I've worked really hard on her but she's nearly done...
namegoeshere;
Thank you!
Vitruvian XVII:
4 or 5 to a base, got it. Yeah, with his sword the Keeper's close to 9" tall. So, comparable in size to Forgeworld's Bloodthirster.
Lhunara:
Oh, I still ship international. I'll have to fix the shipping info on eBay; but I can definitely ship to Denmark.
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Post by: Ghiest1
Sooo..If your going to have them on knees and such, are any of therm going to be getting spanked by mean ol' daemonettes  for "misbehavior" you know befouling the juggernaughts drinking water, stealing shiny trinkets from birdboy's (Tzeenctch) lackeys.
Regards,
Carl
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