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The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 15:07:18


Post by: Danny76


I thought it was beastman as opposed to rat man


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 16:50:04


Post by: Olthannon


 Irbis wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
Looks more fantasy than out else

You can clearly see CSM belly cables and two krak grenades on either side of the goat...


Buddy I can clearly see sweet FA otherwise I wouldn't have said what I said.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 18:20:04


Post by: InyokaMadoda


Not Online!!! wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
More importantly, that rumour engine is now pink.....Emp Children?


warping it is, quite likely either warp stuff generically or pink/purple due to EC?

Well, rumor so far tend more torwards generic chaos but EC first show off as a finale?
isn't as unlikely i guess.


Is it too much wishful thinking to suggest that it is pink in the top half, going down to red in the bottom half, so Emperor's Children and World Eaters?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 18:28:07


Post by: Danny76


Yes.

Though for 2022 in general? I guess we could get one at each end?

Depends if next year is the year of chaos!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 19:53:10


Post by: Dudeface


 InyokaMadoda wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
More importantly, that rumour engine is now pink.....Emp Children?


warping it is, quite likely either warp stuff generically or pink/purple due to EC?

Well, rumor so far tend more torwards generic chaos but EC first show off as a finale?
isn't as unlikely i guess.


Is it too much wishful thinking to suggest that it is pink in the top half, going down to red in the bottom half, so Emperor's Children and World Eaters?


It would be nice but lines up with none of the rumour engine pictures. DG & Tsons get warpsmiths nor chosen, so logically neither with WE or EC. The models shown match more with a generic CSM book, so while the colouring and text is fairly heavily slaanesh feeling, my gut tells me it's black legion vs ulthwe here.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 20:06:49


Post by: Marshal Loss


I think there's a very good chance that we see the generic CSM in the Chaos vs Eldar box painted up as Emperor's Children, but none of the actual images look remotely Slaaneshi at all, and they mesh up perfectly with existing rumours for generic CSM. As desperate as I am for a proper EC release, this isn't it.

 bullyboy wrote:
More importantly, that rumour engine is now pink.....Emp Children?


GW love using vivid pinks and purples to paint mutated skin on generic CSM models (see e.g. their Black Legion Obliterators).


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 20:26:21


Post by: Geifer


I wonder if GW will finally kick Emprah's Kiddies out of the generic Chaos Marine codex this time around. The reliable rumors suggest we'll get a World Eaters codex if I recall correctly, so there's no point in having them in there anymore. I think it would be a good sign getting a PDF to tide the final god specific legion over as that would suggest a release of a stand alone codex and, more importantly, models in the somewhat foreseeable future instead of sticking them in the Chaos Marin codex for another edition while World Eaters, Death Guard and Thousand Sons all have fun with their own codices and dedicated model lines.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 20:59:44


Post by: Tyran


There is still a point in having them there if GW decides to go the supplement rute. I mean, the core SM codex still has the basic chapter rules.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 21:11:55


Post by: Kanluwen


 Tyran wrote:
There is still a point in having them there if GW decides to go the supplement rute. I mean, the core SM codex still has the basic chapter rules.

The core SM codex is also literally the basic line for all the supplements.

Chaos Marines? Not so much.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 21:19:53


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 Tyran wrote:
There is still a point in having them there if GW decides to go the supplement rute. I mean, the core SM codex still has the basic chapter rules.


I would think that if they were going to make dedicated books for World Eaters and Emperor's Children, they'd be full* Codices instead of supplements. Separate Codices like Thousand Sons would likely mean losing access to certain units, whereas Supplements would mean spelling out a bunch of restrictions and battlefield role changes. And yes, I get that they do this currently, but when the current book was published they weren't doing Supplements, yet.

*"Full" being a relative term.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 22:08:12


Post by: The Power Cosmic


I bet it goes with this guy!



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 22:15:20


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Reminds me of the master of possessions.
Isn't it weird that you still can't buy him separately? It's not as if he's on some big combined sprue either. He's separate.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 22:37:09


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Reminds me of the master of possessions.
Isn't it weird that you still can't buy him separately? It's not as if he's on some big combined sprue either. He's separate.


Same with the regular plastic Ork Warboss, you used to not able to buy him without the bundle with Nobs innit, now he's just gone for good on the online store. And funnily enough, so are the Warpsmith and Eldar Rangers.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 23:21:59


Post by: H.B.M.C.


To be fair, those are about to be replaced, so it makes sense for them to go. Wonder if the new Warpsmith has an option for a Power/Omnissian Axe. I'd hate to think that the new one is going to completely invalidate the old one.

And I even painted that one... which is rare for me!



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/21 23:57:15


Post by: Marshal Loss


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Reminds me of the master of possessions.
Isn't it weird that you still can't buy him separately? It's not as if he's on some big combined sprue either. He's separate.


Bet you they'll repackage the existing SC box as a Combat Patrol minus the MoP and with the new Warpsmith added as the only way to buy the latter.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 12:10:29


Post by: DaveC


22 CSM back banner?



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 12:10:49


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Pointy.



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 12:19:44


Post by: lord_blackfang


Glad to see Cursed City expansions already got greenlit for the rumour engine


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 12:46:27


Post by: GaroRobe






Dare I hope?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 13:03:39


Post by: Geifer


 GaroRobe wrote:
Spoiler:




Dare I hope?


It has to happen at some point, right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 13:48:21


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Geifer wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
Spoiler:




Dare I hope?


It has to happen at some point, right?


It allready had happened if gw didn't decide to shoot it behind the legends shed.

Wanna bet they will force those that did play R&H into fielding marines.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 14:21:47


Post by: Danny76


Definitely fabric/paper, or is it skin flapping in the wind..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 14:29:07


Post by: Geifer


Not Online!!! wrote:
It allready had happened if gw didn't decide to shoot it behind the legends shed.


We were talking about plastic models, you know? At least I was. Yeah, Forge World did a take on Lost and Damned, but that didn't give us plastic models which this rumor engine might actually point.

So yeah, sucks you lost your army, no doubt about that, but upcoming plastic models would still be different from what Forge World used to offer.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Wanna bet they will force those that did play R&H into fielding marines.


Meh. Depends if Lost and Damned get a token release and crammed into the Chaos Marine codex or if they get enough different units along with their own book.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 15:01:59


Post by: Not Online!!!


meh, maybee i am too salty about that debacle still.

And yeah implementation will be big.
Even if they end up in the CSM dex.


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 InyokaMadoda wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
More importantly, that rumour engine is now pink.....Emp Children?


warping it is, quite likely either warp stuff generically or pink/purple due to EC?

Well, rumor so far tend more torwards generic chaos but EC first show off as a finale?
isn't as unlikely i guess.


Is it too much wishful thinking to suggest that it is pink in the top half, going down to red in the bottom half, so Emperor's Children and World Eaters?

i mean the success of TS and DG separation isn't something that GW can't argue against probably financially.

so maybee?
i just hope they won't flanderise WE even more than they already have


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 15:04:42


Post by: Irbis


So how you'd even get both heads on these spikes?

Do they teleport them through the warp directly or do elaborate surgery then glue the skin together seeing pipes cross inside the heads?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 16:21:14


Post by: Theophony


 Irbis wrote:
So how you'd even get both heads on these spikes?

Do they teleport them through the warp directly or do elaborate surgery then glue the skin together seeing pipes cross inside the heads?


a little Miracle grow on the spikes does wonders in Nurgle's garden.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 16:39:35


Post by: Voss


Just... push down, I think? The jaw is above the crossbeam, so you take the throat skin and drape it around the lower pole nicely and sew it up at the back.

Tie the banners on after the heads are in place.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 17:58:07


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Geifer wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
It allready had happened if gw didn't decide to shoot it behind the legends shed.


We were talking about plastic models, you know? At least I was. Yeah, Forge World did a take on Lost and Damned, but that didn't give us plastic models which this rumor engine might actually point.

So yeah, sucks you lost your army, no doubt about that, but upcoming plastic models would still be different from what Forge World used to offer.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Wanna bet they will force those that did play R&H into fielding marines.


Meh. Depends if Lost and Damned get a token release and crammed into the Chaos Marine codex or if they get enough different units along with their own book.


Easiest option would be a codex supplement for Astra militarum.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 18:26:20


Post by: Olthannon


 Irbis wrote:
So how you'd even get both heads on these spikes?

Do they teleport them through the warp directly or do elaborate surgery then glue the skin together seeing pipes cross inside the heads?


The lower curved bar is what the skulls are resting on, it doesn't go through their heads. The skull on the right isn't fractured, that is just the zygtomatic bone looking a little pronounced probably because of the sculpt.

Are we due a chaos lord or is it the champion for the chosen?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 18:44:45


Post by: Geifer


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Spoiler:
 Geifer wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
It allready had happened if gw didn't decide to shoot it behind the legends shed.


We were talking about plastic models, you know? At least I was. Yeah, Forge World did a take on Lost and Damned, but that didn't give us plastic models which this rumor engine might actually point.

So yeah, sucks you lost your army, no doubt about that, but upcoming plastic models would still be different from what Forge World used to offer.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Wanna bet they will force those that did play R&H into fielding marines.


Meh. Depends if Lost and Damned get a token release and crammed into the Chaos Marine codex or if they get enough different units along with their own book.


Easiest option would be a codex supplement for Astra militarum.


Would GW even do that? I guess Genestealers got a variation of it, but unless something changed while I wasn't paying attention, GW doesn't want to change datasheets, so I should think they would be opposed to handing out instructions to change keywords, and possibly statlines and unit options across an entire codex. I imagine that it would be a halfhearted attempt if they did and you'd get true Lost and Damned units in the supplement and watered down, Imperial clone units in the Guard codex. That kind of stuff didn't go down well in the first Death Guard codex with the copy past Chaos Marine units.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/22 18:45:55


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Olthannon wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
So how you'd even get both heads on these spikes?

Do they teleport them through the warp directly or do elaborate surgery then glue the skin together seeing pipes cross inside the heads?


The lower curved bar is what the skulls are resting on, it doesn't go through their heads. The skull on the right isn't fractured, that is just the zygtomatic bone looking a little pronounced probably because of the sculpt.

Are we due a chaos lord or is it the champion for the chosen?


It's the Rumoured Traitor Guard, i bet.

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The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 01:45:30


Post by: Gadzilla666


Niiiice. That'll fit quite well in an 8th Legion army. For once, I won't have to go looking for bits for my dude's "trophies".

I just hope it isn't a similar case to the Chaos Terminators kit, I.E. : LOTS of trophy racks, not nearly enough of anything else.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 12:45:35


Post by: Danny76


If they look nice and can be slightly Nurgled, then I’ll get one box to go with the 20 Cultists I have from DV.
As I’m a sucker for new models.
And so far all the stuff here was no worry for me needing to get..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 13:14:10


Post by: Kanluwen



This might be our first look at something Dark Mechanicus proper.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 13:18:51


Post by: ImAGeek


It’s the Warpsmith. It’s identical to the current ones axe.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 13:21:27


Post by: xttz


Definitely a squigsmith


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 13:48:52


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 ImAGeek wrote:
It’s the Warpsmith. It’s identical to the current ones axe.


I thought we’d seen a power axe before? Like, much earlier?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 13:54:55


Post by: Dudeface


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
It’s the Warpsmith. It’s identical to the current ones axe.


I thought we’d seen a power axe before? Like, much earlier?


An axe and a hammer, both likely from elsewhere it seems unless he gets a hammer option now.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 14:07:59


Post by: GaroRobe


I'm curious to see what his other hand will be. The weird power claw flamer could go to him, since it looks too unique even for a chosen marine.

Also, how long has the warpsmith been off the website? That makes me think the release is imminent since even when they reveal new models in previews, you can almost always by the existing model until a week or so before the release.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 14:11:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


 GaroRobe wrote:
I'm curious to see what his other hand will be.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say bolt pistol


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 14:34:36


Post by: Dread Master


Well, if you weren’t sure about the coming warpsmith before, you ought to be now.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 15:21:31


Post by: Shadow Walker


Dread Master wrote:
Well, if you weren’t sure about the coming warpsmith before, you ought to be now.

Nah, it is a Lictor in disguise.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 15:24:21


Post by: The Power Cosmic


Just show us the warpsmith already!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 15:53:59


Post by: Voss


I'm surprised no one has done a patchwork assembly yet. At this point I'd assume the ram plate and chain mail are his too, just for the sheer relentlessness in showing off this one model.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 16:23:28


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Come ooon show us the new goods already


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 16:36:37


Post by: GaroRobe


Voss wrote:
I'm surprised no one has done a patchwork assembly yet. At this point I'd assume the ram plate and chain mail are his too, just for the sheer relentlessness in showing off this one model.


If they had spent 25 days teasing one model, we definitely could. Or if they had shown off a video.

But all we know for certain is his weapon, his mechadendrite, and maybe a few other images. Way too few to make a reasonable guess of the pose, though you could just assume it's going to be fairly close to the old model


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 17:03:43


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Ok, so there is an axe option. That's good.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 17:33:48


Post by: SamusDrake


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Dread Master wrote:
Well, if you weren’t sure about the coming warpsmith before, you ought to be now.

Nah, it is a Lictor in disguise.


What like Frodo or Sam as goblins in Return of the King?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 18:01:12


Post by: Arbitrator


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Come ooon show us the new goods already

I wouldn't get your hopes up. None of the advent calendar stuff was shown off at Christmas last year.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 18:19:37


Post by: xttz


 Arbitrator wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Come ooon show us the new goods already

I wouldn't get your hopes up. None of the advent calendar stuff was shown off at Christmas last year.


Last year's advent didn't have any consistent theme, it was just a random selection of models from different games with different release dates. Most of them were previewed in January & March.

This year's pictures clearly all belong to two specific 40k factions, and most seem to belong to a single rumoured box set featuring both of them.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/23 19:16:11


Post by: Arbitrator


 xttz wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Come ooon show us the new goods already

I wouldn't get your hopes up. None of the advent calendar stuff was shown off at Christmas last year.


Last year's advent didn't have any consistent theme, it was just a random selection of models from different games with different release dates. Most of them were previewed in January & March.

This year's pictures clearly all belong to two specific 40k factions, and most seem to belong to a single rumoured box set featuring both of them.

As with anything related to GW Previews I would never get my hopes up. I wouldn't be shocked if they just teased the teaser some more, showing off the painted feet and shoulders or something.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:22:05


Post by: xttz


This is it, this is the end! The last refuge!! The whisperings are roars, all is collapsing, and the blessed end draws near!!! Can this final image grant us a hint of salvation?!?!

You have one last chance to join us on the Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar Facebook pages for your predictions and premonitions. One last chance. One final hope. And join us tomorrow, for when the ritual completes and the mysteries are solved…





The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:22:32


Post by: zamerion


Ninjed.

And join us tomorrow, for when the ritual completes and the mysteries are solved…

so tomorrow we will see the new box?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:26:03


Post by: zend


So definitely Slaanesh marines/renegades vs Eldar.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:43:19


Post by: ImAGeek


 zend wrote:
So definitely Slaanesh marines/renegades vs Eldar.


Chaos Marines. Not Emperors Children.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:46:16


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m expecting EC due to the colour palette.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:54:19


Post by: ImAGeek


There’s a chance they’ll be painted as EC for the box, but I doubt they’re actual Emperors Children models. Hell that art in the background has the Eye of Horus on his chest.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 13:57:14


Post by: Dudeface


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m expecting EC due to the colour palette.
Given an Emperor's Children release spearheaded by a warpsmith would be the least thematic option they have, the models suggest otherwise to me. If it is EC it'll be by paint job and a standard CSM release imo.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:05:08


Post by: Tim the Biovore


Video seems to be Black Legion, rather unsurprisingly


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:12:12


Post by: Dudeface


How anticlimactic putting that up today


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:16:22


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Soooo, is the not-Banshee with the pole arm the new autarch, or is this the new Corsair design? Last pic in the video shows an entire unit with this kind of helmet.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:18:13


Post by: Gadzilla666


 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Video seems to be Black Legion, rather unsurprisingly

There's a shocker. /s

Definitely Chosen though.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:19:02


Post by: Arbitrator


 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Video seems to be Black Legion, rather unsurprisingly

Guess they like to keep the Eavy Metal schemes for the boxes consistent.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:24:22


Post by: Chairman Aeon


Really?!? I thought the Chaos Marines had a definite purple hue to their armour.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I definitely get a Slaanesh vs Ynnari vibe from the video.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:28:25


Post by: endlesswaltz123


Not that it is both, but it could be black legion and Slaanesh worshipping marines.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:28:38


Post by: tinbee


Is that a scorpion helmet on the ground?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:29:30


Post by: Geifer


 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Not that it is both, but it could be black legion and Slaanesh worshipping marines.


Indeed. All are welcome in the Black Legion.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:29:55


Post by: GaroRobe


The thumbnail shows off someone who is not very warpsmithy. Though he has an axe


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:40:08


Post by: beast_gts


Warhammer 40,000 wrote:A new Warhammer 40,000 battlebox is coming and it looks like those old enemies are at it again. https://bit.ly/3pkfpOH


Same WarCom link, but confirms it's a battlebox.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:40:27


Post by: Radium


MobileSuitRandom wrote:Soooo, is the not-Banshee with the pole arm the new autarch, or is this the new Corsair design? Last pic in the video shows an entire unit with this kind of helmet.

I think it's an autarch, and the eldar coming out of the webway portal look to be a more generic assembly of leadership figures (seers/autarchs). It also seems a bit too ornate for Corsairs, but who knows.


tinbee wrote:Is that a scorpion helmet on the ground?

Autarch helmet with mandiblasters.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:47:13


Post by: GaroRobe


The last rumor mentioning songs does seem slaaneshy but I can’t imagine them being introduced this wsy


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:49:38


Post by: tinbee


Radium wrote:
MobileSuitRandom wrote:Soooo, is the not-Banshee with the pole arm the new autarch, or is this the new Corsair design? Last pic in the video shows an entire unit with this kind of helmet.

I think it's an autarch, and the eldar coming out of the webway portal look to be a more generic assembly of leadership figures (seers/autarchs). It also seems a bit too ornate for Corsairs, but who knows.


tinbee wrote:Is that a scorpion helmet on the ground?

Autarch helmet with mandiblasters.


Yeah I think you are right, it's the same symbol on the current Autarch helmet. There's a male and female autarch in the fighting images with different helmets so looks like we might get a few different options on how to build them.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 14:56:41


Post by: SamusDrake


Can't wait for this! The Eldar are finally coming!

Little interest in Chaos Marines, but I might consider a battle set if it has a Master of Possession. Been after one for Blackstone Fortress...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 16:55:30


Post by: Gadzilla666


The CSM at the end who crushes the soulstone is the Warpsmith. He's got the same smoke stacks on his power pack as the old model.

So, I wonder when they'll give us a time for tomorrow's preview.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 17:08:49


Post by: macluvin


I would totally go halfsies on a csm vs elder box set for the chaos space marine half...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 18:23:51


Post by: Voss


 GaroRobe wrote:
The last rumor mentioning songs does seem slaaneshy but I can’t imagine them being introduced this wsy

It isn't slaaneshy at all. An eldar is reciting the verse we got instead of five rumor engine pics, and the song is of 'succor' (as in respite and hope in a time of hardship); given the Slaanesh wants to eat eldar, that isn't a place to go for hope.
The chaos marines are just genericus blandius badguyius (in their traditional black and gold).

The 'autarch' in the video isn't anything to write home about. The full cape is excessive, the feathers a little less so, the armor and spear are a bit dull in all honesty. I guess we'll see, but I'm expecting a not-particularly exciting versus box rounding out a month of previews of mostly the same models.


 Gadzilla666 wrote:

So, I wonder when they'll give us a time for tomorrow's preview.

I'd go with an short article already set to go up at the usual time (1pm eastern)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 18:30:49


Post by: ImAGeek


Last Christmas it was sometime 10am to midday GMT, I remember it being in the morning.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 20:10:18


Post by: Olthannon


I don't know why anyone was thinking it was going to be Emperors Children lol.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 20:10:58


Post by: Marshal Loss


Can't wait to see the new Chosen.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 20:52:49


Post by: SamusDrake


Chaos Marines with plastic Noise Marine upgrades?

The special edition Noise Marine was quite popular, and it seems that they'll want to replace the current resin upgrades at some point.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 21:04:42


Post by: Marshal Loss


Not a chance. When Noise Marines eventually get redone, they'll be their own set


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 21:09:07


Post by: Geifer


 Olthannon wrote:
I don't know why anyone was thinking it was going to be Emperors Children lol.


Because of an excess of hope. Duh!

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Not a chance. When Noise Marines eventually get redone, they'll be their own set


Agreed. An upgrade sprue for normal Chaos Space Marines is an undue amount of work for not particularly exciting results. There's precious little reason not to go the full extent. The better looks will pay for themselves.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 22:42:12


Post by: SamusDrake


 Marshal Loss wrote:
Not a chance. When Noise Marines eventually get redone, they'll be their own set


So do you reckon they'll also get their own Codex at some point, like the Deathguard and Thousand Sons? Or maybe a supplement?

I've got no stake in them, but just curious as I remember them from back in the day as bit of a novelty, like marines on motorbikes.



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 23:00:32


Post by: mortar_crew


The Emperor's Children are with the World Eaters
the two major (dedicated to one Chaos God only)
legions which had been waiting for ages to get
their codex proper.

Anything short of a full release (codex and 2, 3 kits)
would be disappointing at this point.

No interest in getting more Black Legion or
dinobot deamon engines as far as I am concerned.

Excited to see the Eldar part of the set however.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 23:02:57


Post by: Gadzilla666


Looking at the Chosen's armour in the video, it doesn't look like "standard" CSM armour. No exposed power cables on the chest. Looks closer to the armour on the new Havocs. If it is, think they'll be T5 like Havocs?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/24 23:28:23


Post by: Gert


What'll be interesting is if EC and WE will have rules in the new CSM book and then get their own books as well. That being said, I doubt it and I'm sure they'll both remain in CSM for some time.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 00:00:48


Post by: Iracundus


Voss wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
The last rumor mentioning songs does seem slaaneshy but I can’t imagine them being introduced this wsy

It isn't slaaneshy at all. An eldar is reciting the verse we got instead of five rumor engine pics, and the song is of 'succor' (as in respite and hope in a time of hardship); given the Slaanesh wants to eat eldar, that isn't a place to go for hope.
The chaos marines are just genericus blandius badguyius (in their traditional black and gold).

The 'autarch' in the video isn't anything to write home about. The full cape is excessive, the feathers a little less so, the armor and spear are a bit dull in all honesty. I guess we'll see, but I'm expecting a not-particularly exciting versus box rounding out a month of previews of mostly the same models.


The verse is IMO Ynnari themed. The song of succor is a reference to Ynnead (there was/is a relic pistol called Song of Ynnead). My interpretation of this is:

Autarch kills some CSM but is killed in turn by Warpsmith (or maybe a 2nd Autarch is killed as the helmet on the ground is the Autarch helmet with Scorpion rune and mandiblasters).
Warpsmith picks up and crushes soulstone, releasing the soul of the Eldar.
Other Eldar appear from the Webway gate. The song of final succor is reference to the soul hearing the song of Ynnead or the Ynnari and instead of being sucked into the warp, ends up being "stored" by the Ynnari, which is what Yvraine is described as doing for example in their original WD article. They become living Infinity Circuits for the souls of the dead.


I just hope this isn't GW's way of excusing the Eldar being beaten down by the CSM but then saying "No, despite losing miserably and humiliatingly, it's really not a defeat. In defeat you shall know victory. By losing and dying, you actually strengthen Ynnead". I can imagine Eldar, especially Craftworld Eldar, players would be getting tired of their faction being the go to xenos race to be beaten up by GW whenever they want a punching bag. That happened with the boxed set they were in with Deathwatch, Death Masque.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 06:52:02


Post by: Sabotage!


To be fair pretty much any fiction GW writes in the 40k timeline, other than one or two sentence blurbs in codexes, has loyalist marines winning if they are involved. Granted I haven’t read any GW fiction for a few years, but that was one of my least favorite parts of what was (mostly) a pretty bad line of novels.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:01:16


Post by: Marshal Loss


Eldritch Omens


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:12:39


Post by: H.B.M.C.


That Chosen kit terrifies me.

"If the unit contains 5 or less models, then one model may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws. If the unit contains 6 or more models, then 2 models may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws."

I hope I'm wrong...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:13:19


Post by: Albertorius


Well, nothing really surprising there:

The autarch is bland, but OK I guess, the regular rangers are cool, the bike rangers are... there, but the minis are nice.

The plastic warpsmith is quite a bit worse than the one it replaces, though, and the chosen are pretty bland, so the chaos part is mostly disappointing. Also the dinobot is clearly there to up the price of the box.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:16:18


Post by: Tim the Biovore


Carry over for the new page

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/25/new-asuryani-clash-with-chaos-space-marines-in-the-next-warhammer-40000-battlebox/

Eldar

Spoiler:


Autarch


Rangers


Shroud Runners



Chaos Marines

Spoiler:


Warpsmith


Chosen



Top left Ranger with the floating gizmo also seems to solve an older Rumour Engine reveal (April 20, 2021)
Spoiler:


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:24:30


Post by: ImAGeek


I really like the Eldar. The Rangers and Ranger bikes are sweet, and I like the paint job they’ve done on them. The Chaos are okay, but not as wow as I was hoping for and I wish there was something new instead of the Fiend.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:25:04


Post by: Shadow Walker


Rangers/bikes and Chosen I really like. Autarch and Warpsmith are ...just there.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:27:00


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I like that the Autarch has options, but won't celebrate GW doing something they should have never stopped doing.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:27:29


Post by: xttz


This kit has plenty of options, allowing you to build the Autarch of your dreams, with three head options, two torso variants, and certain other still-secret options! In terms of weapons, you get a star glaive or a scorpion chainsword in one hand, and your pick of four ranged weapons in the other. Not only that, the weapons and upgrades are cross-compatible with the existing Autarch model.


That's so much better than expected.

Wonder if one of the secret options is related to new warp spider or swooping hawk kits, so aren't being shown yet.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:27:38


Post by: Eldarsif


I am in love with the autarch basically because it is a plastic replica of the old resin one. One of my favourite autarchs to kitbash.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:28:12


Post by: Eiríkr


I really like the new Eldar miniatures, and the Autarch is functional and clean - this is all I want out of a new Eldar line reboot.

Chaos, hmm. I'm on the fence with both the Warpsmith and Chosen. The Forgefiend kills this box for me, I really don't want that miniauture.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:28:17


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It's better than I expected


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:28:52


Post by: Albertorius


Not in a hurry to change my current DV chosen for these.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:30:59


Post by: Khahandran


 xttz wrote:
This kit has plenty of options, allowing you to build the Autarch of your dreams, with three head options, two torso variants, and certain other still-secret options! In terms of weapons, you get a star glaive or a scorpion chainsword in one hand, and your pick of four ranged weapons in the other. Not only that, the weapons and upgrades are cross-compatible with the existing Autarch model.


That's so much better than expected.

Wonder if one of the secret options is related to new warp spider or swooping hawk kits, so aren't being shown yet.

You'll also notice they said 4 ranged options, but only showed pictures for 3. I'm guessing the secret option would be the jump generator along with deathspinner.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:32:18


Post by: Geifer


Eldar seem nice enough. The Autarch looks sculpted to stand flat on a base, then the tactical rock was added to give her a slant. Bogus, but probably easy to fix.

Not sure that's all I ever wanted out of a Ranger kit. The models are fine, but we've had kneeling Rangers for so long that their absence in the kit is very noticeable. Not sure about the drone controller's pose either. But a nice kit overall. I think the mounted Rangers came out pretty well.

I don't have a problem with the Warpsmith. I think I like it better than the old one. The helmet is a little odd, but the bare head is nice.

I can't say the same about the bare heads on the Chosen. The Chosen themselves are okay, I guess. Nothing bad, but nothing to write home about either. The bare heads are very unflattering, though.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:33:56


Post by: streetsamurai


Unfortunate, since i really like both armies, bit these new minis don't do anything for me. They're alright, but don't make me want to buy the box at all cost. Hope the spiders and scorpions are a bit more exciting than this


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:41:29


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


This remains the only pic they haven't exactly revealed yet, so I imagine it's an option for the Autarch?

[Thumb - 2021-12-12.jpg]


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:42:44


Post by: Iracundus


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
This remains the only pic they haven't exactly revealed yet, so I imagine it's an option for the Autarch?


Yes, the article says the Autarch has the melee option of star glaive or scorpion chainsword.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:43:27


Post by: Marshal Loss


Almost certainly, the article does mention that it comes with a scorpion chainsword as an option.

edit: ninja'd


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 10:46:38


Post by: JWBS


All pretty decent, don't think I'll buy this box but no complaints about it, all of the new models seem fairly nice.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 11:00:10


Post by: Lord Perversor


Worth to notice the rangers lack the vanes in the back the latest KT art depicted so there is a large chance the rumour are partly true and the KT box it's indeed a Corsairs unit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 11:02:28


Post by: xttz


 Lord Perversor wrote:
Worth to notice the rangers lack the vanes in the back the latest KT art depicted so there is a large chance the rumour are partly true and the KT box it's indeed a Corsairs unit.


The December advent rumours predicted the exact contents of the boxed set down to specific details on the Autarch, so I'd say it's pretty likely everything else is broadly accurate. FWIW that rumour set also said we'd get new:

Warp spiders
Shining Spears
Swooping hawks & Baharroth
Guardians
Corsairs
Avatar

Plus other unspecified models


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 11:29:35


Post by: Perfect Organism


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
This remains the only pic they haven't exactly revealed yet, so I imagine it's an option for the Autarch?

There's also the 'craftworld shredder' shown on the 12th, which seems likely to be a death spinner for the autarch, and the hair shown on the 1st isn't a match for anything shown, but is likely an alternate shroud-runner head.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 12:15:32


Post by: Fergie0044


Nothing surprising here, but the eldar all look nice.
I'm pretty disappointed in the chosen, after the exceptional BT sword brethren. They're... OK, but don't really stand out as much as they should. Hope there is plenty of options in the box!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 12:20:06


Post by: scarletsquig


The autarch kit is cross-compatible with the other autarch, so swooping hawk wings are unlikely to be repeated.

Banshee helm could be a head option, just as maniblasters are on the other model.

Warp spider options highly likely, it would be the only unrepresented aspect, the autarch skyrunner has a laser lance.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 12:34:42


Post by: ImAGeek


scarletsquig wrote:
The autarch kit is cross-compatible with the other autarch, so swooping hawk wings are unlikely to be repeated.

Banshee helm could be a head option, just as maniblasters are on the other model.

Warp spider options highly likely, it would be the only unrepresented aspect, the autarch skyrunner has a laser lance.


Yeah, there could be a warp spider backpack and that deathspinner type thing we saw. There was an older metal Autarch with a warp spider backpack.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 12:45:43


Post by: GaroRobe


Overall, I like it. No comments on the Eldar, they’re great.

Wish the warp smith head a head like the oop model. And the chosen are nice but don’t really standout much from the generic csm. I usually hate flesh and tentacles, but it may have helped them. Though that runs the risk of looking possessed. Also the chosen leader head is so good. Like a mix of kranon and that fw word bearer


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 13:22:24


Post by: Gadzilla666


Now, those are some nice Veterans of the Long War! Definitely like these Chosen more than the DV models. I won't be using those bare heads though. And their weapons loadout worries me.

Dig the Warpsmith too. Interesting that his alternate hammer isn't the one from the rumour engine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Chosen kit terrifies me.

"If the unit contains 5 or less models, then one model may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws. If the unit contains 6 or more models, then 2 models may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws."

I hope I'm wrong...

Yeah, even if we get options, notice that everyone with a melee weapon except for the leader has a pistol? And the guy with the combi-weapon doesn't have a melee weapon? Are they taking away their ability to have both a melee weapon and a rifle? That would be infuriating.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 14:21:04


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Chosen kit terrifies me.

"If the unit contains 5 or less models, then one model may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws. If the unit contains 6 or more models, then 2 models may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws."

I hope I'm wrong...

Yeah, even if we get options, notice that everyone with a melee weapon except for the leader has a pistol? And the guy with the combi-weapon doesn't have a melee weapon? Are they taking away their ability to have both a melee weapon and a rifle? That would be infuriating.


Especially since they didn't remove it from the Sword Brethren


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 14:46:11


Post by: NAVARRO


Need those rangers, damn sweet minis!

Rest is okish.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 15:09:16


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Now, those are some nice Veterans of the Long War! Definitely like these Chosen more than the DV models. I won't be using those bare heads though. And their weapons loadout worries me.

Dig the Warpsmith too. Interesting that his alternate hammer isn't the one from the rumour engine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Chosen kit terrifies me.

"If the unit contains 5 or less models, then one model may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws. If the unit contains 6 or more models, then 2 models may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws."

I hope I'm wrong...

Yeah, even if we get options, notice that everyone with a melee weapon except for the leader has a pistol? And the guy with the combi-weapon doesn't have a melee weapon? Are they taking away their ability to have both a melee weapon and a rifle? That would be infuriating.


The success of that Chosen kit - for me, at least - is going to depend on what/how many options are physically in the box, and whether or not their new datasheet looks like the Plague Marines'.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 15:31:05


Post by: Voss


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Now, those are some nice Veterans of the Long War! Definitely like these Chosen more than the DV models. I won't be using those bare heads though. And their weapons loadout worries me.

Dig the Warpsmith too. Interesting that his alternate hammer isn't the one from the rumour engine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Chosen kit terrifies me.

"If the unit contains 5 or less models, then one model may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws. If the unit contains 6 or more models, then 2 models may be equipped with a pair of Lightning Claws."

I hope I'm wrong...

Yeah, even if we get options, notice that everyone with a melee weapon except for the leader has a pistol? And the guy with the combi-weapon doesn't have a melee weapon? Are they taking away their ability to have both a melee weapon and a rifle? That would be infuriating.


The success of that Chosen kit - for me, at least - is going to depend on what/how many options are physically in the box, and whether or not their new datasheet looks like the Plague Marines'.


Not going to lie, these look monopose to me. They're too perfectly posed, and if you swap weapons around, the bodies/stances just don't work.

As for the box as a whole....eh. The rangers are a bit too busy, the bike rangers are dumb in concept, and the forge fiend is just kind of a tacked on atrocity at this point.

The two characters are pretty good, I do like the new warpsmith over the old one (much less breakable for one thing, and more practical look overall). And the sutra have gets actual options even if the model is only decent.

but apparently even reining in my expectations left them too high. I was hoping for at least one aspect sneaking in, not s month of buildup leading to a handful of overdeisigned troopers and stupid bikes.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 15:42:23


Post by: Platuan4th


 xttz wrote:
This kit has plenty of options, allowing you to build the Autarch of your dreams, with three head options, two torso variants, and certain other still-secret options! In terms of weapons, you get a star glaive or a scorpion chainsword in one hand, and your pick of four ranged weapons in the other. Not only that, the weapons and upgrades are cross-compatible with the existing Autarch model.


That's so much better than expected.

Wonder if one of the secret options is related to new warp spider or swooping hawk kits, so aren't being shown yet.


I'm guessing the secret options are plastic Yriel parts.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 18:24:20


Post by: Geifer


 Platuan4th wrote:
 xttz wrote:
This kit has plenty of options, allowing you to build the Autarch of your dreams, with three head options, two torso variants, and certain other still-secret options! In terms of weapons, you get a star glaive or a scorpion chainsword in one hand, and your pick of four ranged weapons in the other. Not only that, the weapons and upgrades are cross-compatible with the existing Autarch model.


That's so much better than expected.

Wonder if one of the secret options is related to new warp spider or swooping hawk kits, so aren't being shown yet.


I'm guessing the secret options are plastic Yriel parts.


After he crossed the Rubicon Aelfdayri.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 19:16:45


Post by: Voss


So, just to be clear, the entire 'Advent Engine' is solved now.

December 7th and 12th aren't shown (the probably deathspinner and chainsword), but the chainsword is specifically mentioned and a 4th ranged option for the autarch is mentioned but not shown.

For now we're back at square zero, but hopefully there will be a lot more to these codex launches. Once we eventually get past GSC, Custodes and Tau occupying 'early 2022.'


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 19:39:31


Post by: xttz


Voss wrote:

For now we're back at square zero, but hopefully there will be a lot more to these codex launches.


Hardly "square zero":

 xttz wrote:
The December advent rumours predicted the exact contents of the boxed set down to specific details on the Autarch, so I'd say it's pretty likely everything else is broadly accurate. FWIW that rumour set also said we'd get new:

Warp spiders
Shining Spears
Swooping hawks & Baharroth
Guardians
Corsairs
Avatar

Plus other unspecified models


If we see Corsairs in the next KT set then that basically confirms those rumours. Plus GW will probably show something on Jan 1st again.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/25 20:07:13


Post by: Voss


 xttz wrote:
Voss wrote:

For now we're back at square zero, but hopefully there will be a lot more to these codex launches.


Hardly "square zero":

In terms of rumor engine pics. Everything GW has been showing off is completely wrapped up.
The eldar rumors can live in their own thread.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 12:14:10


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I said whip it. Whip it good!



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 12:52:22


Post by: Radium


Just for fun: slicing orbs of zandros?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 12:55:13


Post by: Tiberius501


Clearly the tail of a whip Squig


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 12:57:38


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I think in the top left hand bit of the image we’re seeing a spiked, possibly bladed tip.

Going out on a limb? Mid level character for Daughters of Khaine is my guess. Someone fighty to support the Witch Elves and Sisters of Slaughter.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 13:02:33


Post by: lord_blackfang


Radium wrote:
Just for fun: slicing orbs of zandros?


The only guess worth guessing!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 14:01:57


Post by: Theophony


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Clearly the tail of a whip Squig

Could be it's prehensile tounge


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 14:09:02


Post by: Shadow Walker


Dark Eldar, Khaine elves, Necromunda or some Chaos marauder?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 15:16:12


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Hmm. Daughters of Khaine seem to have braided whips while DEldar have those weird energy tentacle whips. Think I'm in camp Chaos Marauders re: this one. Or yeah, Neromunda or something for WarCry?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 18:30:53


Post by: Oguhmek


The Escher whip is also braided.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 18:49:57


Post by: Voss


Faint hope, rat-things:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Skaven-Rat-Ogres-and-Giant-Rats

This mess should have been replaced decades ago.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 18:54:37


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Voss wrote:
Faint hope, rat-things:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Skaven-Rat-Ogres-and-Giant-Rats

This mess should have been replaced decades ago.


Looks too elegant-well made for Skaven, sadly.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 19:52:26


Post by: lord_blackfang


There's a yet unknown Kill Team in the box vs Corsairs, right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 20:00:27


Post by: John D Law


Actually it says two new kill teams in the article. Maybe (though unlikely) the Squats team

[Thumb - 37403633-8CE7-4424-A0C5-687DD30820BC.jpeg]


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 20:15:11


Post by: Kanluwen


Harlequins v Corsairs is a possibility.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/28 20:18:45


Post by: Gert


Unless this is where one of those rumoured Cultist units is getting added. Chaos vs Craftworlds for the main event of Nachmund as a whole?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 03:40:29


Post by: Tiberius501


Wasn’t the next kill team box rumoured to be catachan vs tyranids?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 03:49:43


Post by: Kanluwen


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Wasn’t the next kill team box rumoured to be catachan vs tyranids?

Not necessarily the "next" one, but one of them yes.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 09:28:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Kanluwen wrote:
Harlequins v Corsairs is a possibility.


In a deathworld forest! That way I don't have to worry about getting any part of it


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 10:00:42


Post by: xttz


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Wasn’t the next kill team box rumoured to be catachan vs tyranids?

Not necessarily the "next" one, but one of them yes.


FWIW these are the factions that received rules in the last Vigilus / Nachmund books:

Marines
IG
AdMech
Aeldari
GSC
Orks
CSM
Chaos Daemons

I'd expect the Q1 and Q2 Kill Team sets to come from that list. With how recent rumours have turned out it's pretty much a given that one of those will contain Chaos cultists and/or traitor guardsmen.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 12:42:18


Post by: Kanluwen


If I were a betting man, given that it says the set will contain "new Kill Teams"? I'd look at it from that perspective.

Guard have received the Veteran Guardsman Kill Team list via Octarius. Tau got the Pathfinder KT via Chalnath. Orks got the Kommando list via Octarius. Sisters got the Novitiate list via Chalnath.

AdMech got Skitarii via WD and GSC have a WD KT...so I'd narrow it down from that setup. An Aeldari Corsair KT variant list could show up here, fighting a Necron KT.

Because the Necrons were present in Nachmund as well; a big plot hook for the original KT stuff set in Vigilus was the blackstone deposits that Stygies VIII was suuuuuuuuuper interested in.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 12:47:17


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


We’ve also seen a Phase Sword thing in the Rumour Engine, so something Necron is in the pipe line.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 12:49:35


Post by: xttz


There was a very Necron rumour engine pic recently. I was expecting it to be an event character model for store anniversaries / WH+ / etc, but it could also be some kind of Kill Team model or upgrade sprue too.

The rumour mill also says we're getting "multiple" guard regiments in plastic, so I'm expecting those to feature heavily in KT. Perhaps Kasrkin make an appearance during Nachmund followed by Catachans in the next season.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 12:56:45


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Pariah Nexus came out not even one year ago, maybe too soon for KT Necrons, again? (But that's also me having zero interest in Necrons, :p )


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 12:59:06


Post by: GaroRobe


The new season book apparently has some inquisitor with a flaming sword on the back cover. If you look close enough, it appears he has the "I" branded pistol from several rumor engines ago


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 13:02:25


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


The fabled Inquisition Kill Team?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 13:08:02


Post by: Kanluwen


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Pariah Nexus came out not even one year ago, maybe too soon for KT Necrons, again? (But that's also me having zero interest in Necrons, :p )

Pariah Nexus was "old" Kill Team. The boxes now contain variant KT lists.


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xttz wrote:There was a very Necron rumour engine pic recently. I was expecting it to be an event character model for store anniversaries / WH+ / etc, but it could also be some kind of Kill Team model or upgrade sprue too.

The rumour mill also says we're getting "multiple" guard regiments in plastic, so I'm expecting those to feature heavily in KT. Perhaps Kasrkin make an appearance during Nachmund followed by Catachans in the next season.

I'm not expecting Kasrkin for KT. Rumor has it that they'll be coming alongside a new tank variant.

GaroRobe wrote:The new season book apparently has some inquisitor with a flaming sword on the back cover. If you look close enough, it appears he has the "I" branded pistol from several rumor engines ago

One of the mentioned settings in the KT core book has a deathworld with Harlequins fighting an Inquisitor-led Rogue Trader KT.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/12/29 13:11:23


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 GaroRobe wrote:
The new season book apparently has some inquisitor with a flaming sword on the back cover. If you look close enough, it appears he has the "I" branded pistol from several rumor engines ago

Ah, at 1:37 in the next season video, the figure in a brown robe in front of the Dread? Do we have a better resolution pic of this?