Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Possibly. But, the Squat Leagues also depended on STC stuff.

Yes, they made it with greater skill - but being human offshoots, their tech is still STC based.

There are similar elements on Kharadron stuff so I wouldn't read it as necessarily needing to be STC linked. KO are essentially Squats in AoS [they look great with a grim dark paint scheme and 40k bits]
I hope its the guy the did the GSC bikes and vehicles thats designing these rather than the marine bikes and buggy...

Bago wrote:
I never paid much attention to the text of the RE. "Oh no! The Rumour Engine just has far too many hands (and other appendages) for us to follow" sounds like GSC, doesnt it?

Yes, that’s what I was thinking too. Although I would love to see a plastic Guard vehicle with tyres. Or Squats.

100% space marines. The top left is the same as the centre of primaris backpacks and on the side of outrider bikes

Abaddon303 wrote:
100% space marines. The top left is the same as the centre of primaris backpacks and on the side of outrider bikes

This was my first thought, but then all I could picture in my head were space marine versions of starcraft hellions which would really rile some people up in a wonderful way.

Hmmmmm….. Bring back a race that they tossed out because they decided they couldn’t elaborate on the idea, or sell more marines….
Which could it be?

Dread Master wrote:
Hmmmmm….. Bring back a race that they tossed out because they decided they couldn’t elaborate on the idea, or sell more marines….
Which could it be?

"They" are mostly gone. Even Jervis is retired now.

Yeah. Squats are the most obvious nostalgia fix for 40k that's left. They've checked GSC, Knights, Sisters, even Custodes off the list by now, plus Necromunda. Reviving Squats seems more and more like a no-brainer, really, never mind what GW thought nearly 25 years ago.

I don’t doubt they’ll bring back squats. I just don’t think this RE points to their return. Marines, I says.

Why is the dampener below the strut. Is that normal?

 vim_the_good wrote:
Why is the dampener below the strut. Is that normal?

It's traditional for GW vehicles, especially IG ones, to have completely non-functional drivetrains. See the various tanks with track armour running down to the track so that they can't move over uneven ground, or the new marine bikes which can't turn their front wheels. It's like they deliberately try to make the silliest looking technology.

Bago wrote:
I never paid much attention to the text of the RE. "Oh no! The Rumour Engine just has far too many hands (and other appendages) for us to follow" sounds like GSC, doesnt it?

Kinda, but the text is usually unrelated and random. I wouldn't look too deeply at it

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 vim_the_good wrote:
Why is the dampener below the strut. Is that normal?

It's traditional for GW vehicles, especially IG ones, to have completely non-functional drivetrains. See the various tanks with track armour running down to the track so that they can't move over uneven ground, or the new marine bikes which can't turn their front wheels. It's like they deliberately try to make the silliest looking technology.

Or they simply don't have absolutely any knowledge about how vehicles work.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 vim_the_good wrote:
Why is the dampener below the strut. Is that normal?

It's traditional for GW vehicles, especially IG ones, to have completely non-functional drivetrains. See the various tanks with track armour running down to the track so that they can't move over uneven ground, or the new marine bikes which can't turn their front wheels. It's like they deliberately try to make the silliest looking technology.

Or they simply don't have absolutely any knowledge about how vehicles work.

But It's cool and works because it's 38,000 years in the future and there is technology we don't have...They just don't know how it works

If the vehicle doesn't work, then pray harder to the Omnissiah. Engineering design is for hereteks.

Could easily be GSC but seriously how many offroad vehicles do they need?

I'm okay with squats, I don't like the old Squats one bit but I'd trust GW to do a modern version of them as cool as they did AdMech and GSC.

Everyone’s going Necromunda OR Squats, but why not both? They already have a couple of special characters and a Squat gang would be a good place to start, particularly if they’re introducing an ash wastes vehicle expansion.

Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

An imperial vehicle with wheels? Propostrous!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

by Bot do you mean penal legionnaire? Because have a dedicated machine when you can strap explosives onto a guy and have a moving minefield?

 Theophony wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

by Bot do you mean penal legionnaire? Because have a dedicated machine when you can strap explosives onto a guy and have a moving minefield?

I dunno, the Guard already deploys remote-controlled self-propelled mines in the vein of the German Goliath. Sounds like a thing that would actually fit

 streetsamurai wrote:
Really worried that this will be squats. What a disaster that would be :(

Why would one Dwarf in Space faction be a disaster, when three Elves in Space factions aren't?

 Dysartes wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Really worried that this will be squats. What a disaster that would be :(

Why would one Dwarf in Space faction be a disaster, when three Elves in Space factions aren't?

He would be forced to make an army of them, of course. Temptetion would be irresistable. And disastrous for the wallet.

 Theophony wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

by Bot do you mean penal legionnaire? Because have a dedicated machine when you can strap explosives onto a guy and have a moving minefield?

Nope, I mean a rolling thing that hucks mines out of it.

Like one of those little pushmowers for kids, but of doom!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Squat Trike.

Fight me. Because I’m being serious. Squat. Trike.

It's a new sub faction of Squat Sisters of Battle.

Togusa wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Squat Trike.

Fight me. Because I’m being serious. Squat. Trike.

It's a new sub faction of Squat Sisters of Battle.

Shortstacks?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard minelaying 'robot'.

I know it's out there but...the DKoK transfer sheet has "Trenches and Minefield" bits on it. Gonna go ahead and say we're going to get a Minefield terrain piece, and a bot that goes with it.

by Bot do you mean penal legionnaire? Because have a dedicated machine when you can strap explosives onto a guy and have a moving minefield?

Nope, I mean a rolling thing that hucks mines out of it.

Like one of those little pushmowers for kids, but of doom!

...of boom, surely?

 Dysartes wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Really worried that this will be squats. What a disaster that would be :(

Why would one Dwarf in Space faction be a disaster, when three Elves in Space factions aren't?

Disaster is obviously a figure of speech. Still, i think there's so much more interesting army they could add rather than squat.

New Kruleboy hiding in the background of the Instagram picture solves two rumour engines

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTRgPANIkks/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Wasn't that face standart also a rumor?

 Tyran wrote:
Wasn't that face standart also a rumor?

Yes but that one was solved ages ago

On the Squat Trike, and indeed the apparent (and previously rumoured) return of the bearded ones.

It’s true the disc plate thing matches those seen on Primaris equipment.

But, we also know the Squat Worlds were overrun by Orks. Provided that continues to be the background? It would make sense that any remaining forces have been taken in by The Imperium, and possibly assisted to get themselves back in fighting shape.

Squat Extinction Event hasn't really been detailed at all, so they'll probably handwave/retcon it away as them having had enclaves all over the place, or that they went into super-isolation mode but the damage to the Homeworlds wasn't nearly as total as ignorant Imperials believed.

"The Tyranids did a lot of damage but the Great Rift mostly got rid of them Baal style."

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
New Kruleboy hiding in the background of the Instagram picture solves two rumour engines

A bit sad it's not new Death or Tzeentch, but that's a cool model.

Stop.



Hammer Time.

Obvious thing would be the squats we've been seeing are chaos squats, which is how they survived the hive fleet.

But it could be a warpsmith.

Chaos Squats to complement the regular squats in an all-Squat Starterset

Waaaghbert wrote:
Chaos Squats to complement the regular squats in an all-Squat Starterset

Ha- heads would explode!

I'm thinking Warpsmith or possibly Chaos Dwarfs ...

Chaos without a doubt. But what the hell?

Looks like some Tzeentchian demonic smith.

I was thinking Slaaneshi, due to the grate reminding me of a speaker?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On the Squat Trike, and indeed the apparent (and previously rumoured) return of the bearded ones.

It’s true the disc plate thing matches those seen on Primaris equipment.

But, we also know the Squat Worlds were overrun by Orks. Provided that continues to be the background? It would make sense that any remaining forces have been taken in by The Imperium, and possibly assisted to get themselves back in fighting shape.

That plate also is similar to some of the Kharadron design elements..
But yes it hasn't been set out how the Squats disappeared or what form their return might take.. might not be that friendly to the imperium due to that snippet from PA which has them attacking an Ad Mech vessel? They might do similar to the KO- seeming to disappear but just relocated [either fleet based or hidden underground/lost and spat out by the warp].

I don't usually leave this kind of comment in the rumor engine thread, but that looks cool and I hope it comes attached to something interesting.

No speculation on what it might be.

A new demon engine for the EC stand alone codex? What, I'm not allowed to dream?

 Fergie0044 wrote:
A new demon engine for the EC stand alone codex? What, I'm not allowed to dream?

Didn't Eidolon wield a Thunderhammer?

That thing just screams "Chaos Dwarfs".

Chaos...maybe iron warriors?

Dark Mechanicus!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On the Squat Trike, and indeed the apparent (and previously rumoured) return of the bearded ones.

It’s true the disc plate thing matches those seen on Primaris equipment.

But, we also know the Squat Worlds were overrun by Orks. Provided that continues to be the background? It would make sense that any remaining forces have been taken in by The Imperium, and possibly assisted to get themselves back in fighting shape.

Pfft, why bring back squats when there's a gaping window of opportunity for something in-between a space marine bike and a space marine quad bike???

Wow. Those mechandrites and that little metal reinforcing rod on top of the hand/digit in bottom left of pic remind me of admech so at first I thought Dark Mechanicus. Whether it is or Chaos Dwarves I get the feeling something special is coming. There are rumours Chaos gets a big revamp/addition next year, will be interesting when this rumour pic drops.

That... is Forgebreaker gents. Perturabo is coming.

Chaos Kharadron, clearly. Possibly with those silly bearskin hats to continue silly hat tradition.

 WarlordRob117 wrote:
That... is Forgebreaker gents. Perturabo is coming.

What? No it's not.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 WarlordRob117 wrote:
That... is Forgebreaker gents. Perturabo is coming.

What? No it's not.

It's my assumption obviously. It's a massive chaos warhammer. Unless it's a new kind of chaos unit, which I highly doubt, I stand by my original statement... a highly warp mutated primarch warhammer

New Helbrute maybe?

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
New Helbrute maybe?

The helbrute isn't that old.

The rumour dump a month back claimed a warpsmith was on the menu, this would fit.

Yup i guess warpsmith.

Dudeface wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
New Helbrute maybe?

The helbrute isn't that old.

The rumour dump a month back claimed a warpsmith was on the menu, this would fit.

True, it is only 7 odd years old at this point. I am just not sure how well it scales with the newer, bigger chaos marines etc.

Would be great to see a new Wapsmith.

This looks like a hand, no?

Definitely. But not you usual power armoured hand.

More like a glove with metal reinforcement things on the fingers.

I see others have already beat me to chaos squats... clearly its chaos squats riding a tricycle with a hammer.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Definitely. But not you usual power armoured hand.

More like a glove with metal reinforcement things on the fingers.

It's an augmetic.

No way this os chaos dwarves. Either emperor children or dark mechanicus

People are seriously saying AoS? It has data spikes on it. Unless GW went back to that old, old lore about 40k ship crashed in WHF, there is no way it's not warsmith or warpsmith of some sort.

Kinda shame though, old warpsmith is really classic sculpt...

Thunder-hammer on Khorn berserker. Calling it now.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I was thinking Slaaneshi, due to the grate reminding me of a speaker?

So Emperor's Children codex incoming with new Noise Marines maybe?

 oni wrote:
Thunder-hammer on Khorn berserker. Calling it now.

I can't see it. Khornate types are too dumb to be 'techmarines' (or even repair/replace missing PA bits), and the weapon would mutate into Khorne symbol (which has hammer like shape too so impracticality argument is out). Whatever it is, looks generic chaos, not marked.

Waaaghbert wrote:

Didn't Eidolon wield a Thunderhammer?

Yes, he did.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I was thinking Slaaneshi, due to the grate reminding me of a speaker?

So Emperor's Children codex incoming with new Noise Marines maybe?

The inside of the grille looks lighter, so I assumed it was heat of a furnace on the inside.

It's almost certainly a Warpsmith (or dark mechanicum tech priest, but they usually uses axes?). If you look at the "grille", it has highlighting in the lower portions, which looks like "heat". It's almost definitely not a speaker grille.

Didn't the leak with DKoK v Kommandos in it say Warpsmith? That's probably the Warpsmith.

WIth that leak/rumor from the other month, regarding a CSM update in 2022, did they mention a warpsmith?

I remember we're "supposed" to get:
*Chosen
*Bikes
*And cultists galore.

But a warpsmith seems long overdue

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Didn't the leak with DKoK v Kommandos in it say Warpsmith? That's probably the Warpsmith.

Yes the rumour dump from the guy that said DKoK vs Kommandos mentioned a new Warpsmith as part of a big chaos release so its most likely.

 GaroRobe wrote:
WIth that leak/rumor from the other month, regarding a CSM update in 2022, did they mention a warpsmith?

I remember we're "supposed" to get:
*Chosen
*Bikes
*And cultists galore.

But a warpsmith seems long overdue

A non-crap Warpsmith even more so.

Big blocky sod that the current one is.

Current Warsmith is ace.

And the tendrils on this thing reminded me of this.

That's a hammer.

A warhammer, dare I say.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Current Warsmith is ace.

Well yes, I'm pretty sure most Space Marines are asexual.

Ba dum tss.

 CMLR wrote:
That's a hammer.

A warhammer, dare I say.

One of 40,000, perhaps?

The hammer looks like it would be impossible to cast in fewer than three pieces, which seems like a lot for a human-scale model.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
The hammer looks like it would be impossible to cast in fewer than three pieces, which seems like a lot for a human-scale model.

They might be able to do some wizardry to make it 2 bits, but I think you are probably right. All the spikes would make for a ton of undercuts, which is not OK for plastics.

For a HQ, I could see them going through the effort, but it’s a pretty detailed bit of kit.

Dare we hope for an updated Daemon Prince?

Whilst there’s nothing fundamentally wrong with the current one, it’s still not a patch on its metal predecessor.

Hot take, the time between Rumour Engine pics and an actual reveal should be a month or so at best, because as it stands it's annoying to have unsolved teases for years.

Clearly everyone can see this is the new tyranids.

Chaos thunder hammer, surely.

Sorry, 'daemon-forged warphammer'

That hammer has a crown, and it looks like a sort of grate on the head. I’m going with Furnace Kings for AoS!!!

Warpsmith seems the obvious choice. There's no way it's EC - doesn't look Slaaneshi at all, and it doesn't have any resemblance to Eidolon's hammer.

It's nice to finally get an obvious CSM rumour engine. Hopefully that means we won't have to wait too long next year to see the big release

Yeah my bet is on the warpsmith. The current one looks good, but it's still resin. It also aligns with some of the previous chaos marine rumors we've heard.

I know people want it to be Emperor's children, but the fact of the matter is that the EC rumors have been sparse, with some of the more recent ones suggesting that next year we'll only see World Eaters (iirc it's a long build-up to the Fall of 2022 when we'll finally get Angron and World Eaters), with regular chaos marines in the beginning of 2022.

Either way, it's one of the best hammers I've ever seen and I can't wait to see the rest of the model.

Edit: lmao, checking on the gw website, the current warpsmith is still on a 25mm base. Guarantee that's gunna change to a 40mm at least.

Looks like more of a mallet for bonking wooden pegs into holes than a thunder hammer to me, but seems 99% likely to be a warpsmith from where I’m sitting

Alternate option- Mutilator hammer arm. Maybe a kit of 3 Lator bodies with the option to build each as either a Muti or Obliti?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Alternate option- Mutilator hammer arm. Maybe a kit of 3 Lator bodies with the option to build each as either a Muti or Obliti?

We should be so lucky...

Yessss! Finally, a leak for something Heretic Astartes. More! Give us more!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Definitely. But not you usual power armoured hand.

More like a glove with metal reinforcement things on the fingers.

It's an augmetic.

But is it an Astartes augmetic or one attached to a Heretek? I'd be thrilled if the new Warpsmith was a Dark Magus.

Squats vs. Chaos Dwarf boxed set.

They're fighting over a gateway that attaches AoS realms to the 40k Universe.


The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep.

Dark Mechanicus at long last?

 CMLR wrote:
Dark Mechanicus at long last?

...I guess a Warpsmith kinda counts as that?

The rivets are about 8 pixels wide and the striking face of the hammer is about 230 pixels across. If the rivets are about half a millimetre (pretty small for GW rivets, especially ones that crisp), that would translate into over half an inch, which is very big for a space marine weapon. The length from the hand to the top spikes is about 400 pixels, or nearly an inch with the same assumptions. Likewise, the brush strokes are consistent with a pretty big object. GW weapons are ridiculously oversized, but I think even they would hesitate to give a CSM something that big. I'm pretty sure it isn't a warpsmith, but rather something much bigger, like a daemon prince, daemon primarch, daemon engine, or greater daemon.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
The rivets are about 8 pixels wide and the striking face of the hammer is about 230 pixels across. If the rivets are about half a millimetre (pretty small for GW rivets, especially ones that crisp), that would translate into over half an inch, which is very big for a space marine weapon. The length from the hand to the top spikes is about 400 pixels, or nearly an inch with the same assumptions. Likewise, the brush strokes are consistent with a pretty big object. GW weapons are ridiculously oversized, but I think even they would hesitate to give a CSM something that big. I'm pretty sure it isn't a warpsmith, but rather something much bigger, like a daemon prince, daemon primarch, daemon engine, or greater daemon.

If would be really nice if it was in fact Perturabo with Forgebreaker. Though Blood Ravens stole it so it can't be that

Though, not sure if I see it being that big, data spikes limit its size and the 'core' of the hammer looks to be the same size as one held by Iron Priest if the hand size is roughly the same. Yes, 'crown' makes it look bigger but it's still 'big', not outlandish weapon. Of course if the wielder is bigger the hammer would be bigger too.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Dark Mechanicus at long last?

...I guess a Warpsmith kinda counts as that?

I mean a full Dark Mechanicus. Everything AdMech but Chaos.

 CMLR wrote:

I mean a full Dark Mechanicus. Everything AdMech but Chaos.

That's not Dark Mechanicus though...?

Dark Mechanicus is more about that biomechanical fusion of technology(including xenotech), organic life, and a touch of demonic thrown in for flavor in some cases.

Best way to think of it?
AdMech sees a tank as a perfect creation and humans as a flawed creation.
DarkMech sees them both as the perfect place to start cramming full of daemons, unproven tech, and sometimes a few limbs from somewhere else for a case of "WILL IT BLEND?!".

Soulblight Ranger

I don’t know what that is but I’m 50% certain it’s stormcasts.

The sword handle seems a bit nimble for Stormcast imho. Could be just the picture, though.

Looks kinda Elvish to me

The whole thing looks too weedy for a stormcast sword. I'm tempted to say something human. But the ornateness and the fact the scabbard looks like bat wings folded over each other makes me thing vampires.

The heft of the sword (is it the heft? the thing between grip and edge...) looks a bit like lions and the sheath is somewhat ornate...
I'd go for elven stuff

Interesting! I'm in the "feels elven" camp, might also belong with this one, tho?

 Snrub wrote:
The whole thing looks too weedy for a stormcast sword. I'm tempted to say something human. But the ornateness and the fact the scabbard looks like bat wings folded over each other makes me thing vampires.

Bloodsuckers were my immediate take, too.

Cities of Sigmar gang for something... Warcry, Underworlds, Cursed City (lol)

Nibbler wrote:
The heft of the sword (is it the heft? the thing between grip and edge...)

The guard (generic term for any part of the sword that protects your hand), or quillions (specifically the parts which stick out sideways, AKA crossguard).
You're probably thinking of 'haft' (usually the wooden handle of an axe or polearm, but sometimes a synonym for 'hilt') or 'hilt' (all parts of the sword apart from the blade, usually consisting of a grip, guard, and pommel).

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Nibbler wrote:
The heft of the sword (is it the heft? the thing between grip and edge...)

The guard (generic term for any part of the sword that protects your hand), or quillions (specifically the parts which stick out sideways, AKA crossguard).
You're probably thinking of 'haft' (usually the wooden handle of an axe or polearm, but sometimes a synonym for 'hilt') or 'hilt' (all parts of the sword apart from the blade, usually consisting of a grip, guard, and pommel).

Thanks for the help.
I try to remember "hilt" and "crossguard" - heard them before, but these aren't words that find their way into my english conversations very often...

Btt:
The Lion-Shoulder looks fitting... could really be the same model

Heft, BTW is also a real word that means, roughly, the “feel of the weight” and applies to pretty much anything you can pick up. Root of “hefty” as in something with a lot of heft.

That said the scabbard looks wood elf ish, with a design like folded leaves.

There isn't enough visible vermin in the hair to be of vampiric origin.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

That said the scabbard looks wood elf ish, with a design like folded leaves.

Yeah I thought that.. some sort of elf, maybe order of sigmar or elf rangers..

C'mon guys, that's a vampire.

JSG wrote:
C'mon guys, that's a vampire.

It's a sword, actually. Also didn't we just get a big release of vampires?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

JSG wrote:
C'mon guys, that's a vampire.

It's a sword, actually. Also didn't we just get a big release of vampires?

Yeah but the scabbard could be bat wings rather than leaves and they are announcing new Warcry stuff - could be a Vamp war band for that system.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cities of Sigmar gang for something... Warcry, Underworlds, Cursed City (lol)

That would be my guess (an a wish) too. Maybe some witch/monster hunters mercenaries or even Order of Azyr?

Speaking of, I do genuienly wonder if GW is ever going to release expansions for Curses City? I mean, on one hand, money. On the other, they would have to acknowledge it exists

Is there a vampire dynasty with some kind of lion/big cat iconography? Doubt that it's vamps tho, their blades are usually either rapiers or sabres, and this one looks more like a fantasy longsword humans or elves would have in AoS.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Speaking of, I do genuienly wonder if GW is ever going to release expansions for Curses City? I mean, on one hand, money. On the other, they would have to acknowledge it exists

It's really baffling. They surely wouldn't lose money with expansions - yeah, I'm still super miffed at how badly they handled the release, but this wouldn't stop me from throwing €€€ their way for some more fun Cursed City minis/tiles.

Well, they’re doing seminars at GenCon, I imagine that’ll be posed to them during the near inevitable Q&A

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, they’re doing seminars at GenCon, I imagine that’ll be posed to them during the near inevitable Q&A

And they'll be completely ignored, if GW even bothers doing one.

They’re doing seminars. And if they can’t or won’t answer such a question, they can’t or won’t. But I reckon it’s gonna be asked.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They’re doing seminars. And if they can’t or won’t answer such a question, they can’t or won’t. But I reckon it’s gonna be asked.

Hopefully someone's gonna ask it, otherwise it'll be a terribly missed opportunity.

With two evening seminars, I’m hopeful it will come up.

However, it depends on what the seminars cover - the Q&A may be understandably overtaken with that.

Also. Squats. I bet they reveal Squats, at the very least a wee tease.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
With two evening seminars, I’m hopeful it will come up.

However, it depends on what the seminars cover - the Q&A may be understandably overtaken with that.

Also. Squats. I bet they reveal Squats, at the very least a wee tease.

What time are the seminars?

I’ve no idea. There’s a link to the GenCon schedule on yesterday’s Warhammer Community post.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Also. Squats. I bet they reveal Squats, at the very least a wee tease.

Fair, if there is anything that can stop the 40k fanbase from being rightfully angry at Geedubs, it's new shiny toys.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve no idea. There’s a link to the GenCon schedule on yesterday’s Warhammer Community post.

Friday and saturday 8.00

https://www.gencon.com/events/200757

https://www.gencon.com/events/200758


Longggg week....

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Speaking of, I do genuienly wonder if GW is ever going to release expansions for Curses City? I mean, on one hand, money. On the other, they would have to acknowledge it exists

I would guess not, with the original print run being cut short or lost at sea or whatever the heck happened, the customer base for expansions logically can't be larger than the piddly number of core sets sold.

zamerion wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve no idea. There’s a link to the GenCon schedule on yesterday’s Warhammer Community post.

Friday and saturday 8.00

https://www.gencon.com/events/200757

https://www.gencon.com/events/200758
Longggg week....

If you’re attending, why not come say “hi” or even register for an event or three using the Gen Con registration portal? As well as seeing all the reveals in person, you can enjoy our two evening seminars, take part in demo games, and join in a ‘paint and take’ event. There will even be opportunities to play games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer 40,000 on our beautiful US Open terrain, as well as small daily Blood Bowl tournaments and demonstrations of the new edition of Kill Team

Might not be that long of a wait...they usually have stuff out on display that gets revealed quickly.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Also. Squats. I bet they reveal Squats, at the very least a wee tease.

I'm really hoping for them... but trying not to expect anything beyond Templars and the new Killteam box..but there have been at least 2, maybe up to five rumour engines for them so I'm thinking they might appear soon, maybe as a killteam or board game [like deathwatch overkill for GSC] before a more substantial release..
But I'm totally not overthinking this...

Someone. Up a tree. With an Owl!

I see a boot in the top left corner.

Is that the symbol of the London Underground?

Looks AoS-y to me, overall.

Witch hunters!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Someone. Up a tree. With an Owl!

Hooting?!

Not sure if it means anything, but I suggested Catachan or another Gaunt’s Ghosts kit and they replied “Interesting Ideas”
Rumours are Catachans are on the horizon, and there have been those limited Catachan characters…

That skull looks very much not like Catachan.

diepotato47 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything, but I suggested Catachan or another Gaunt’s Ghosts kit and they replied “Interesting Ideas”
Rumours are Catachans are on the horizon, and there have been those limited Catachan characters…

I wouldn't read much into it, they tend to pick comments at random and reply.

But yeah, there's definitely something Catachan coming.

I hope it includes a release of a plastic Sly Marbo, who will obviously be his own killteam lol

Dread Master wrote:
I hope it includes a release of a plastic Sly Marbo, who will obviously be his own killteam lol

Given how we just got a new Sly Marbo, i have severe doubts.

Yeah man but it’s resin. Good candidate for getting an update. Besides I didn’t say I thought it would include him, I said I hoped it would.

Dread Master wrote:
Yeah man but it’s resin. Good candidate for getting an update. Besides I didn’t say I thought it would include him, I said I hoped it would.

He WAS updated in Plastic already. He is not resin.

Bago wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Yeah man but it’s resin. Good candidate for getting an update. Besides I didn’t say I thought it would include him, I said I hoped it would.

He WAS updated in Plastic already. He is not resin.

Wrong.

This is weird. I have the new one sitting here and it is most definitely plastik and not resin. At least, thats what I thought. It felt and looked like plastic

Bago wrote:
This is weird. I have the new one sitting here and it is most definitely plastik and not resin. At least, thats what I thought. It felt and looked like plastic

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Astra-Militarum-Sly-Marbo-2018

"This resin model comes as 8 components, and is supplied with a Citadel 32mm Round base. Rules for fielding Sly Marbo are included in the box."

there is no sprue shot either, which is common to resin/finecast models

That sculpt certainly looks plastic. As does the price. Weird.

Dread Master wrote:
I hope it includes a release of a plastic Sly Marbo, who will obviously be his own killteam lol

Meh.

I'd rather get Sergeant Bastonne with the Cadian release than continuing the meme-y nonsense that is Sly Marbo at this point.

Threadomancy time.

Called it!

Anything else get solved with Grimmy's reveal?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Threadomancy time.

Surprisingly the Cybernetic feet do Not look like those shoes from a while back. So either more Steampunk Dwarves, or something else this way comes.

 Theophony wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Threadomancy time.

Surprisingly the Cybernetic feet do Not look like those shoes from a while back. So either more Steampunk Dwarves, or something else this way comes.

Perhaps the squats from The Leak (which turned out entirely true thus far)?

Sky ship of some kind?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Sky ship of some kind?

Finally! The true return of Man O’War!

Alt: prow squig holding onto a wrecked boat with its tentacles.

Kharadron Overlords seems like a ideal candidate for being amongst the first 3rd edition battletomes.

Yeah, its a skyship.

Well that's not a Tyranid.

Don’t think it’s Kharadron, due to the bone decoration. The symbol on the prow equally doesn’t strike me as particularly Undead though?

The spike reallly doesn't look Kharadron, it's kind of bare and chipped. Neither does the wood, or the bones. It looks kind of Death-y to me.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Don’t think it’s Kharadron, due to the bone decoration. The symbol on the prow equally doesn’t strike me as particularly Undead though?

Well most undead things were once alive, weren't they?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
The spike reallly doesn't look Kharadron, it's kind of bare and chipped. Neither does the wood, or the bones. It looks kind of Death-y to me.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Don’t think it’s Kharadron, due to the bone decoration. The symbol on the prow equally doesn’t strike me as particularly Undead though?

Well most undead things were once alive, weren't they?

OMG - could it be Nighthaunts?

Edit; possibly Idoneath...

The bits beneath the bone cage thing. Does that look fleshy/muscle to anyone else? It’s weird angles for wood.

Now that i think about it, the detailing on the spike really reminds me of Lady Olyander

Nighthaunt or Idoneth imo.

Now all i can imagine is an AoS version of the Flying Dutchman, except y'know, literally flying.

Necrofex Colossus.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Necrofex Colossus.

I don't think GW would relase two very similar Vampire-themed factions close to each other.

Nagash is trying on a new coat, he's feeling more of his old retro vibe.

I'm half tempted to say that's a shoulder pad.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Necrofex Colossus.

I don't think GW would relase two very similar Vampire-themed factions close to each other.

Well, the oldest unsolved Rumour Engine pics are 1 1/2 years now for whatever reason, so we could be looking at a Summer 2023 Vampirate release here :p

 MobileSuitRandom wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Necrofex Colossus.

I don't think GW would relase two very similar Vampire-themed factions close to each other.

Well, the oldest unsolved Rumour Engine pics are 1 1/2 years now for whatever reason, so we could be looking at a Summer 2023 Vampirate release here :p

Currently the oldest unsolved Rumour Engine that look vaguely Death-like are these two, and i think they're for Flesheaters.

OBR archer bow.

 Jammer87 wrote:
OBR archer bow.

What, no? It doesn't look like the OBR Bowman.
Or for the matter, any kind of bow ever.

Both Nighthaunt & Gravelords lack a faction terrain piece, or have I forgotten something?

Another thing that come to mind would be a corpse cart redesign, but why not include this in the overall Gravelords release then, tho

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well that's not a Tyranid.

It does look a little like a Tyranid and a boat had a teleporter accident

Maybe a flying catacomb barge of some Death sub-faction?

I could see a Nighthaunt ghost ship. It’s definitely Death, defo not Idoneth.

Hm. Something to do with Harrowdeep beneath the Shadowsea, perhaps?

Ghost pirates.

Or pirate ghosts.

Certainly doesn't look very 40k but I don't know much about AoS. What I see is a skeletal ribcage with wooden planks underneath. A wooden element with a sheath around it that has some flowery design to it. Looks like a rivet in the wood just by the "prow".

Is there a death faction due an update? You'd think the vampires would have been enough for a while.

Nagash's Undying Love Boat

Vampire Coasts!

I'd be surprised to see a third vampire faction, but fingers crossed!

Could be a new monster nighthaunt? They seem to be big on beasts thus far with 3rd edition...

Do nighthaunt have a terrain piece yet?

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Ghost pirates.

Or pirate ghosts.

Who would we ask to find out which is which?

Scooby Doo.

Duh.

Just remembered the newest Underworlds is death underwater , so part of the 3D scenery pack.

 Theophony wrote:
Just remembered the newest Underworlds is death underwater , so part of the 3D scenery pack.

It’s not death underwater, it’s Ulgu, the shadow realm. There might be death warbands but I don’t think the scenery will be death themed.

It's still not a bad guess

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's still not a bad guess

Well, we don’t know that until we know what it is

 ImAGeek wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's still not a bad guess

Well, we don’t know that until we know what it is

Glad you pointed that out. I thought we’d know before we knew. Silly me. I had only read a snippet of the Warhammer community article that was in the Warhammer Underworlds thread. Having gone back to the actual source I am more keen on believing my recent guess.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/28/welcome-to-harrowdeep-the-shadowy-new-setting-for-warhammer-underworlds/

Harrowdeep is set below the seas of Uglu the shadow realm. The cards shown in the article are very death oriented, and while I haven’t seen anything in particular that shows a ship, there are plenty of shadows that could be parts of wreckage...or anything else.

So while I usually throw out guesses like boat squig, I think this is far more likely.

Just a thought: would it be worth having all of the unsolved images in the first post, and updating it when one is solved? Or alternatively having a pinned thread in the News & Rumor forum. Would beat trawling through 47 pages of posts...

 InyokaMadoda wrote:
Just a thought: would it be worth having all of the unsolved images in the first post, and updating it when one is solved? Or alternatively having a pinned thread in the News & Rumor forum. Would beat trawling through 47 pages of posts...

I mean there's always this.
https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#

 InyokaMadoda wrote:
Just a thought: would it be worth having all of the unsolved images in the first post, and updating it when one is solved? Or alternatively having a pinned thread in the News & Rumor forum. Would beat trawling through 47 pages of posts...

Yes. But it’s a massive pain in the arse.

Its not on dakka, but some guy has a massive thread with every image and matches them to the solved ones. I think the guys name is something orky

 GaroRobe wrote:
Its not on dakka, but some guy has a massive thread with every image and matches them to the solved ones. I think the guys name is something orky

Warboss Kurgan. He already got linked here

Thanks for linking that thread. I hadn't seen it before. Very interesting to go through all of the unsolved rumour engine stuff.

There are definitely more undead in the future. We still haven't solved what's probably a FEC ghoul on throne model. And a nighthaunt style candle holder

 GaroRobe wrote:
There are definitely more undead in the future. We still haven't solved what's probably a FEC ghoul on throne model

I think new Death stuff is coming a while after the rest of New Stormcasts are done, i think it's gonna be one of the first 3.0 relases.

A picture is worth a thousand words indeed, though in this case they are all “what?”

Looks like it goes with the ogre/witch hunter bits?

It’s a bumbag. I’m not sure I can type the US name for it though.

A fannypack?

Its clearly vampirates of the zombie coast.

That’s the one. First part of that word has a different meaning in English

Funny, in American it refers to ones bottom, in English it refers to ones front bottom

I imagine it's a good place to keep your fags.

Might be a plastic version of this.



Are the other maneaters coming?

New Ogres certainly would be nice

Maybe something for the Cities now turned Crusades? Looks like traveling chest.

It certainly seems to be something large. Even in AoS I don't think humans carry around treasure chests on their bodies. An ogre in a longcoat? Witch hunter ogre?

Clearly the Gargant Dragonsnatcher kit will soon be released. in the chest are all the missing SCE dragons.

The hole in the coat makes me think it is human sized.

The knot reminds me of the net rumour engine from 2021-03-30. Could well be the same model, or maybe just the same sculptor / aesthetic.

Witch hunters? Spooks?

Looks very Nightgaunt to me.

I'd be surprised if the Nighthaunt were getting much new, but maybe another Underworlds unit?

It looks quite like it would have belonged in Cursed City to me, do we think there are still some of the models that were planned to be for the expansions getting punted to the AOS Vampires instead? I still think there's going to be another wave there like there was for Lumineth.

It's a Nighthaunt lantern 1000%, however none of the existing ones are banged up at all so this is probably something other than a main army model.

Cautious reminder: there’s technically nothing stopping them putting W:tOW stuff in the Rumour Engine. Technically.

That said, while it has the undead vibe, is there anything in the rules of the Realms that prevents non-undead humans from living in Shyish? I mean there are normal humans living in the other Realms despite the whole “elemental plane” vibe they’ve got going on.

In actual fact we know there’s not: Cursed City was set there, right on the edge of the Nadir, even. So what about a mortal faction living in the land of the dead?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Cautious reminder: there’s technically nothing stopping them putting W:tOW stuff in the Rumour Engine. Technically.

CG models probably won't have visible brush strokes tho

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Cautious reminder: there’s technically nothing stopping them putting W:tOW stuff in the Rumour Engine. Technically.

Except for the fact it would have medieval German styling, not high fantasy AoS one?

As for humans, there are a tons of mortals living in Shyish, even though it's pretty gakky life as they tend to be treated like cattle by all undead factions. There are even several Sigmar holdings, protected both by human infantry regiments and Stormcast.

Guessing this is a replacement for the Guardian of Souls.

Definitely looks Nighthaunt to me too.

 Equinox wrote:
Guessing this is a replacement for the Guardian of Souls.

Would be nice, since you can't get either of his models anymore.

Yeah, it's basically the same lantern as on his Soul Wars mini, apart for the pointy bit being attached to the bottom.

 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Yeah, it's basically the same lantern as on his Soul Wars mini, apart for the pointy bit being attached to the bottom.

Eh, not exactly, his Lantern was stuck on a long pole, and not hanging from it. This one looks a good bit fancier too.

Yeah, I meant just the lantern bit. Even up to the little skulls in the corners.

Okay, this might be a very wild and outlandish speculation, but what if it's a stern lantern from the same ship as the very death-looking ship bow rumour engine fom a while back? Like the thing on the attached image, but hanging from a pole attached to the back of the ship.

Well the swirly ornaments *are* very similar? Also it would be a really GW thing to do, introduce a maritime undead sub-faction of Nighthaunt instead of finally doing Vampirates, LOL

"Introduce"?

They've already been here. We had a whole "Spectral Fleet" as part of the Season of War: Firestorm.

It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom.

Yup. That is definitely Chaos, and definitely 40k. New daemon engine?

Since a clue was "zoom out" - hopefully its traitor legion AT warlord arm.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Spoiler:

It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom.

Lufgt has a right handed claw while this looks like a left hand, though.

Dark Mechanicum?

Goes with the chaos hammer?

Yeah I'm guessing it's the new Warpsmith's other hand.

Almost certainly from a Chaos Knight, imo - which also matches with the 2022 Chaos rumours.

Looks too small for a Chaos Knight, besides, we already have one. Perhaps it's a Chaos Armiger?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Looks too small for a Chaos Knight, besides, we already have one. Perhaps it's a Chaos Armiger?

Are Armigers (War Dogs for Chaos) not Knights?

The thus-far impeccable rumours said there was a new Chaos Knight coming with their codex:

CSM: Plenty of new kits for 9th Edition.

Regular Possessed,

Bikers,

Chosen,

Warpsmith,

Cultists (BSF-style),

Renegade Guard (BSF-style),

human mutants,

possessed humans (the latter two are monstrously horrible. Think of the Greater Possessed but cranked up to 11),

cultist standard bearer (character),

cultist character with bodyguards.

Chaos Knights: New Knight variant with Codex

It looks dainty? Just not as blocky/chunky as most chaos things.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Looks too small for a Chaos Knight, besides, we already have one. Perhaps it's a Chaos Armiger?

Are Armigers (War Dogs for Chaos) not Knights?

If they were Knights, they would be called Knight Armigers, now wouldn't they?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Looks too small for a Chaos Knight, besides, we already have one. Perhaps it's a Chaos Armiger?

Are Armigers (War Dogs for Chaos) not Knights?

If they were Knights, they would be called Knight Armigers, now wouldn't they?

I suppose they would be, yes. If only we had something like the Imperial Knight codex to help us out:

A Knight is a fearsome opponent. Whether it be a swift Armiger, a stalwart Questor...

The lighter Armiger-class Knights

Armiger pilots don the Helm Mechanicus, a device that allows them to control their Knight

raiding duties often fall to the lighter Armiger-class Knights

Though they are the lightest class of Imperial Knight regularly deployed to the battlefields of the 41st Millennium, each Armiger is still an imposing war engine

Unusually for Knights, Armigers are

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Looks too small for a Chaos Knight, besides, we already have one. Perhaps it's a Chaos Armiger?

Or maybe Titanicus?
The scale/proportions look more spindly to me to be anything large like a 40k knight. Might go with the hammer and be part of the warp smith though ..

I doubt it's Titanicus. Looks more like a Warpsmith or perhaps a new Huron Blackheart.

I don’t think it’s Titanicus, but it could very well be for a Wardog Armiger.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Yup. That is definitely Chaos, and definitely 40k. New daemon engine?

now, it could be a chaos dwarf demon golem for WarCry.

The claw on top also mimics the FW Huron model. That said it's probably not him.

I could see them retconning which hand Huron has a talon for. It would make him look less like a mini abaddon. Plus we already have another named right handed chaos power claw thanks to Haarken

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom.

Or it's a Warpsmith...


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I don’t think it’s Titanicus, but it could very well be for a Wardog Armiger.

The Big Rumour Dump does mention a new Knight kit specific to the Chaos Knight book next year sometime. Would be interesting.

No way it's a warpsmith. Like with the hammer, it just has far too many pieces to be a marine-scale weapon. A marine power claw would be cast in one or two parts. That thing needs to be maybe half a dozen. Likewise, those rivets would be far too small if it was anything smaller than a dreadnaught-sized weapon.
I'm fairly sure it's one of:
Chaos primarch.
Demon engine.
Chaos knight.
AT-scale chaos titan.
Of those, the only one in the reliably rumour list is the chaos knight, so I'm guessing that is what we're looking at.

Seems to me it's about daemon prince sized, so would fit a Primarch. The flamer muzzle would be way too chunky at Knight scale.

There's still no stand-alone Venomcrawler, maybe some kind of dual kit? Looks like it's attached to something with ... arms, though

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Seems to me it's about daemon prince sized, so would fit a Primarch. The flamer muzzle would be way too chunky at Knight scale.

What about a Chaos Armiger?

 Perfect Organism wrote:
No way it's a warpsmith. Like with the hammer, it just has far too many pieces to be a marine-scale weapon.

There's no real, reliable way to know this. Just supposition.

A marine power claw would be cast in one or two parts. That thing needs to be maybe half a dozen.

Or it just needs to be situated well.

I've got to go with Blackheart. He desperately needs a new model. It's always been too weedy.

The clue says "It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom." Suggesting a special character.
Maybe a primark?

My guess from one of the legions that we haven't go a primark for. It's not angron, maybe it's one of these?

No way a Primarch would have such a weedy hand and wrist

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
I've got to go with Blackheart. He desperately needs a new model. It's always been too weedy.

Yeah maybe.

Ooooooohhhhh. Now then.

Then now, now then then now now then.

What if Huron has ascended to Daemonhood? Swapping out his piddling Power Axe for a big old hammer?

 ceorron wrote:
The clue says "It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom." Suggesting a special character.

Serious question, where was "it's that naughty boy from the Maelstrom", outside of MDG posting it?

Teaser today was:

The Adeptus Mechanicus have seized the blessed Rumour Engine this week, and have applied their most advanced cogitators to divining the meaning of its messages. Unfortunately, those machines are thousands of years old, so the best they could get is this:

The bit for it on social media was this:

Try zooming out on whatever device you're using, that might help you identify this week's Rumour Engine image. If you think you know what it is, share your guess with us below.

Maybe a primark?

My guess from one of the legions that we haven't go a primark for. It's not angron, maybe it's one of these?

Spoiler:

Curze is dead, as is Horus.

I have no definitive idea what it might be. It is worth mentioning that there's three things, specifically, called out in the Big Rumor Dump that it could be part of:
-Warpsmith
-Chosen kit
-Something Chaos Knights

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooooohhhhh. Now then.

Then now, now then then now now then.

What if Huron has ascended to Daemonhood? Swapping out his piddling Power Axe for a big old hammer?

Then Huron was a Squat, because his Daemonic ascension puts him at normal Astartes size lol.

Maybe he’s getting terminator armor like his fw model

The Claw length compared to the forearm length would mean he would be carving up the floor as he walked around if it were Huron. I am leaning more towards the Chaos Knight/Titan route.

 ceorron wrote:
The clue says "It’s that naughty boy from the Maelstrom." Suggesting a special character.

There is no "clue". That's something MDG posted.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
No way it's a warpsmith. Like with the hammer, it just has far too many pieces to be a marine-scale weapon.

There's no real, reliable way to know this. Just supposition.

A marine power claw would be cast in one or two parts. That thing needs to be maybe half a dozen.

Spoiler:

Or it just needs to be situated well.

I'm not sure what you think you're demonstrating with that image. It is a marine-scale power claw which consists of two pieces, which you could fairly easily see just from looking at the assembled model.
The rumour engine image has detail on the sides of the fingers which is physically impossible to do without making most of them separate pieces. As far as I can tell, you've got a two-part block consisting of the middle and ring fingers, which also hold the weapon muzzle. Then there's the tubing, thumb, and little finger, which all seem to be in the same plane so they could be cast as one piece. That means the index finger would be a separate bit, probably with half the plate over the back of the hand attached. The toothed wrist-guard has serious overhang, so that needs to be a separate piece as well. That's five pieces, almost as complex as the knight rampager's seven-piece claw.

Three pieces, if you want to get technical. Four if you count the shoulderpad since it's two separate parts.

The point was that you can look at these things and insist that they would need X pieces when in reality it's a lot less than needed when done cleverly.

If you want a better example, I could just point you at Abaddon. Model is slightly larger than a Marine certainly...but it's not like character models have been getting smaller.


5 pieces.
Lower part of the hand with all 4 'finger claws' on, 'thumb claw' by itself, top plate for the hand, combi-bolters as two separate pieces.

New demon engine?

Looks vehicle sized by the look of it, if there is rumours of some chaos knights kit, then that's what I'd go for.

It certainly looks bigger than the normal to be Deamon Price or Knight size, however looking at the "wrist" section, it's quite thin and doesn't look like it would really fit with either of those options.

My thought is that it's not a hand, but the end of a tail. So, some kind of Chaos Machine that has a tail attack kind of like they Tyranids. Though, I'm not sure if that already is a thing since I'm far from a Chaos expert.

 Tawnis wrote:
It certainly looks bigger than the normal to be Deamon Price or Knight size, however looking at the "wrist" section, it's quite thin and doesn't look like it would really fit with either of those options.

My thought is that it's not a hand, but the end of a tail. So, some kind of Chaos Machine that has a tail attack kind of like they Tyranids. Though, I'm not sure if that already is a thing since I'm far from a Chaos expert.

First thing that popped into my head when you mentioned chaos machine with tail attack kind was the old Epic Khorne model.

* Edit; Banelord titan I think they were called. I thought they had smaller ones as well though.

Isn't there some kind of giant Khorne Scorpion? Perhaps something like that?

Has Adeptus Titanicus ever showed up in Rumour Engine before?

 Tawnis wrote:
Isn't there some kind of giant Khorne Scorpion? Perhaps something like that?

Do you mean the brass scorpion? awesome model, but the claw looks too small for something like that.


Resembles more someting of the size of Decimator or smaller:


But then I might be completely wrong and it's a Chaos Knight / Armiger. I don't think it is Huron or anything Marine size tbh, the claws look crazy long for that.

Random crazy thought...

The claw is part of a servo-harness for a Warpsmith.

They seem to be taking strides to further differentiate Traitor versions of things via weapons and the like.
The Lord-Discordant has a chainglaive rather than the axe most associated with the Mechanicus and its allegiant forces.
Master of Executions has a big ol' headsman's axe rather than the sword of the Judiciar or Emperor's Champion styled models.

Wouldn't be unbelievable that the Warpsmith that's been rumoured is Obliterator sized, with mechandrites sized to match.

I'm going to go with hand for an updated mutilator.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Random crazy thought...

The claw is part of a servo-harness for a Warpsmith.

They seem to be taking strides to further differentiate Traitor versions of things via weapons and the like.
The Lord-Discordant has a chainglaive rather than the axe most associated with the Mechanicus and its allegiant forces.
Master of Executions has a big ol' headsman's axe rather than the sword of the Judiciar or Emperor's Champion styled models.

Wouldn't be unbelievable that the Warpsmith that's been rumoured is Obliterator sized, with mechandrites sized to match.

I could see that. Good guess.

Well.

It’s Imperial. And Rockety.

New primaris tank. Looks like all the crap they straped to the repulsor.
It's literally a rocket launcher with another rocket launcher attached to it.

Another Primaris vehicle I bet.

Another dumb thing with 12 weapon profiles on it so it takes 20 minutes to resolve every turn.

No thoughts of a new squat mole mortar???

{more wishful thinking on my part.. ]

Could be Squat I suppose.

Possibly mounted on the trike/bike from a few weeks ago?

So, whose betting this is from the same vehicle as this older Rumour Engine pic?

Are marine vehicles often painted with hazard stripes?

I'm gonna guess that rumoured astra militarum tank that sits between Leman Russ and Baneblade

Seems kind of messy for the imperium. Maybe GSC or a necromunda thing?

Rumoured new IG tank.

Necromunda scrap tech.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Seems kind of messy for the imperium. Maybe GSC or a necromunda thing?

The round thingy in front that looks like a light or something looks exactly like a part I glued on the heavy stubber of the Goliath Truck yesterday

What I wish it was: New Imperial Vehicle fieldable by Militarum Tempestus.

What it probably is: Another over-designed Primaris vehicle.

The hazard stripes are intriguing though, you don't normally see that in studio SM schemes... it *could* be Guard related since they use chevron patterns in the alternate studio schemes sometimes, ditto Orks (but it looks a bit too clean for Ork-tech), but I'm inclined towards Genestealer Cults because they use hazard stripes in their *primary* scheme (see Goliath Rockgrinder for example). The other alternative is that its a traitor guard vehicle in Iron Warriors livery, but again looks too clean for Chaos.

 silverstu wrote:
No thoughts of a new squat mole mortar???

{more wishful thinking on my part.. ]

It's facing the wrong way to be a mole mortar.

I don’t think it will be Primaris, given the SM Codex is barely a year old, and I don’t think there are any Chapters waiting for a Codex?

Ignore

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I don’t think it will be Primaris, given the SM Codex is barely a year old, and I don’t think there are any Chapters waiting for a Codex?

As if that would stop GW.

Looks like an Icarus Array in SM form. Primaris AA tank?

It could be terrain. Sector Militarus, to give it a hypothetical name?

Does it definitely look vehicle scale? Could it be a shoulder-mounted piece for the GSC saboteur or something?

I'm hoping it's a new Guard tank but who knows, there's definitely GSC stuff on the way..

How many different launchers can we duct tape together?

Dunno, but it's going to have too many shots.

Does GW put caution stripes on any studio paint schemes outside of genestealer cults? My bet based on that alone is that hazard stripes -> it's GSC

 ph34r wrote:
Does GW put caution stripes on any studio paint schemes outside of genestealer cults? My bet based on that alone is that hazard stripes -> it's GSC

Iron Warriors.

A few Guard officers/sergeants have had it on their chainswords too.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Does GW put caution stripes on any studio paint schemes outside of genestealer cults? My bet based on that alone is that hazard stripes -> it's GSC

Iron Warriors.

A few Guard officers/sergeants have had it on their chainswords too.

And the Primaris Techmarine, however limited it was.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Does GW put caution stripes on any studio paint schemes outside of genestealer cults? My bet based on that alone is that hazard stripes -> it's GSC

Iron Warriors.

A few Guard officers/sergeants have had it on their chainswords too.

And the Primaris Techmarine, however limited it was.

Sections of Ork vehicles

I wonder if it might be for Marine Primaris Scouts (there's been some suggestion for Kill Team.

It looks like a bunch of equipment bundled up - a sniper scope, a bolter, something that could be considered Kill Team siege equipment, and the missile launcher. Maybe some KT objective marker, or specialist loadout (stuff carrier?).

That's the only sort of unit I feel like GW would paint caution stripes on a Marine launcher tbh.

There's been no reliable suggestion of "Primaris Scouts" for Kill Team or in general. There's been a lot of speculation about it after the Neophytes though.

It doesn't look like it's "bundled" like we've seen on some kits where the gear is stowed. It looks like whatever it is? It's functionally one single "weapon". The middle bit isn't unheard of for a sight, the right bit looks like it might be a designator of some kind, and then there's a Missile Launcher(the box) and a Rocket Pod of some sort.

I'm genuinely thinking it might be a Rapier loaded up for AA work. We haven't seen any mention of Guard Heavy Weapon Teams for the Krieg stuff and it's notable in the absence of them in both the Krieg and the Cadian repack.