The skeptic in me is expecting a one-off Tyranid character. If they could cram Ghaz's big model in a boxset, then they could fit the Red Terror in one :/
GaroRobe wrote: The skeptic in me is expecting a one-off Tyranid character. If they could cram Ghaz's big model in a boxset, then they could fit the Red Terror in one :/
Betting it's the Red Terror released as the exclusive character model in a Piety & Pain style 'discounted' boxed set, but with old Genestealers. Because legally any discounted Tyranid box must include the old Genestealer sculpts.
I mean, plastic lictor components exist. Also, didn't we have another tyranid themed RE?
Agreed. Nids are nearly caught up in plastic kits. Just the lictor and biovore/pyrovore and iirc everything is covered. After that, maybe a super heavy in plastic and gaunts redone as pushfits like the necron warriors were?
I agree with that. Something did cross my mind thinking on this l. Are Tyranids the last vestiges of 28mm slotta bases? If Tyranid troops get updated along side the last few finecast kits... are slottas dead & gone?
Also I do not envy whomever on the design team was given charge of the next Hormagaunt/XYZgaunt kit. Those little hoof claws do not easily glue down given the pose of our little stab-raptors.
I would like the hormagaunts to have a larger oval base, it is hard to pile in a bucket of hormagaunts and they can be a pain to keep balanced on uneven terrain.
StarHunter25 wrote: I agree with that. Something did cross my mind thinking on this l. Are Tyranids the last vestiges of 28mm slotta bases? If Tyranid troops get updated along side the last few finecast kits... are slottas dead & gone?
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Nope. AoS still use the slottas. Skinks, any of the remaining finecast characters plus the characters from the board games - BSF were on slottabases, Cursed City looks likely to be on slottas too.
Tyran wrote: I would like the hormagaunts to have a larger oval base, it is hard to pile in a bucket of hormagaunts and they can be a pain to keep balanced on uneven terrain.
They can be a pain to keep balanced on flat terrain.
I think a lot of the Nid plastics are fine, but showing their age. I would be nice, but not required to get a lot of them redone.
StarHunter25 wrote: I agree with that. Something did cross my mind thinking on this l. Are Tyranids the last vestiges of 28mm slotta bases? If Tyranid troops get updated along side the last few finecast kits... are slottas dead & gone?
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Nope. AoS still use the slottas. Skinks, any of the remaining finecast characters plus the characters from the board games - BSF were on slottabases, Cursed City looks likely to be on slottas too.
All the ETB Death Guard And Primaris. The cultists and poxwalkers etc.
Tyran wrote: I would like the hormagaunts to have a larger oval base, it is hard to pile in a bucket of hormagaunts and they can be a pain to keep balanced on uneven terrain.
They can be a pain to keep balanced on flat terrain.
I think a lot of the Nid plastics are fine, but showing their age. I would be nice, but not required to get a lot of them redone.
Hormagaunts...I swear, they were more of a bugger than the old metal 3.5 Raptors. Worst big about a hormagaunt? If you dropped it or squished one by accident. TEENY contact point with the base and hoof. Have fun fixing it.
I am also 100% certain my old nid army was worth about £1 more due to the amount of pennies to balance spindly bugs....
StarHunter25 wrote: Do gants really need a push-fit variant? They aren't exactly the most complex model to assemble.
Three words: Two. Part. Heads.
Doesn't need to be push-fit, but it has to be not that.
This.
All the this. That sin being further compounded by some very odd placement of mould channels. Some of the Hormograunt Head Halves have the channel right between the chin and neck gland bit.
If Gaunts were ever to be remade, I want the Spike Rifles and Stranglewebs back! Otherwise don't waste precious plastic kit resources on them and do something useful like some Eldar or something!
As for the new rumor pics, I would make sense for it to be the Red Terror, if only because he's one of the few really old sculpt in the range, dating back from 3rd edition. Plus of course, him sporting such tail-end on the old model
StarHunter25 wrote: Do gants really need a push-fit variant? They aren't exactly the most complex model to assemble.
Three words: Two. Part. Heads.
Doesn't need to be push-fit, but it has to be not that.
This.
All the this. That sin being further compounded by some very odd placement of mould channels. Some of the Hormograunt Head Halves have the channel right between the chin and neck gland bit.
Shoring up the ankles wouldn't hurt either, especially on the hormagaunts. Pretty sure I broke one or two just painting the little beasts.
Man, I don't want to be right, but I'm pretty sure this isn't nids. That dark skin tone doesn't match the studio nids at all.
That doesn't rule out the red terror, but I'm pretty sure you can see little flakes in the paint on the pincers, which is something you get with metallic paints. The scales look a little bit out of place, and there's nothing in the way of pores, either, which is a classic 'nid design que.
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say, looking at GW releases, that if this isn't a Big(tm) Marine, then it's probably for AOS. My guess is maybe something for Warcry, or an expansion for Not-Mordheim? Maybe something for the core game, idk, but I'm pretty confident this isn't a nid.
Dysartes wrote: What're the weaknesses of the current Ravener kit, if any?
From a customer perspective? Too few models. GW probably doesn't agree with that assessment. You could probably argue that a creature like that would need longer tails, but that's about it. It has a bunch of arms and even torso options (as ravener guns are in the torso) so option wise its pretty complete, afaik, though I've never even looked at the 8th edition codex.
Adding 'Red Terror' options to the kit would basically be adding an additional sprue. A new sprue added to the kit seems unlikely, and so does a completely redone kit. A character sprue Red Terror seems the most likely, or redoing the major elements as a new unit.
I could see GW doing what they did with the Skorpekh destroyers and Ophydian destroyers- separate units with a broadly similar role.
Or just what they did with the 'Lokhust Heavy Destroyer.' Leave the old kit (ravener/destroyer) intact, and replace the resin model (or model with resin bits) with a new datasheet and kit
Danny76 wrote:By not mordheim you mean Cursed City? Being nothing like mordheim, at all?
Warcry is even closer to mordheim than a board game is..
Also, could easily be a tyranid Painted up in one of the other hive fleet schemes..?
I mean, yeah, I just cba remembering what it is called. I know there is a mechanical difference between WHQ and Mordheim - even if the announcement stream casters did spend almost the entire time spelling out really hard how similar they thought the vibe was for to Mordheim, but pop off if ya wanna, dude.
Acehilator wrote:It's Red Terror. The tail of the current model is almost identical.
Similar only in two prongs and a center spike, there's no chitin on the current red terror, but plenty of pores. Don't get me wrong, it'd be cool to see that old miscast lump of misery re-done, but I just can't bring myself to get my hopes up. It also doesn't have the rounded pincers, nor - again, what I reckon is - metallic paint.
Similar only in two prongs and a center spike, there's no chitin on the current red terror, but plenty of pores.
A lot of the design elements on the Red Terror have fallen out of the Tyranid army design (like the recessed purple ridges on the tail, that were also on the original genestealers). I'm not at all shocked by the idea that the new tail would be a larger version of the current ravener tails.
The 'metallic flecks' look like they're part of a filter. They're present in the corners of the image as well, on top of the white space. They're part of the styling to make it look like a grainy imperial transmission. They're equally present on the horse leg from two weeks ago.
Similar only in two prongs and a center spike, there's no chitin on the current red terror, but plenty of pores. Don't get me wrong, it'd be cool to see that old miscast lump of misery re-done, but I just can't bring myself to get my hopes up. It also doesn't have the rounded pincers, nor - again, what I reckon is - metallic paint.
Well, what you see in your picture is the underside of the tail, while the rumor one with the chitin is from the top. The old tail does have those chitin plates up top too. The pores thing is just the old design of the Ravener's tail. This models is from 3rd edition. Tyranids have changed a bit since then! Raveners are on their 3rd model iteration (metal, metal, plastic) while the Red Terror is still on his first. Raveners now have the same tail/pincer tail as the rumor pics (chitin, rounder pincer, etc).
He's probably painted in Behemoth style (or just red skin at least), hence the darker skin in the greyscale picture.
Going by the crudeness/roughness of the highlighting, that looks to me like a rather small tail that's been significantly magnified. It does look like a tyranid tail, but it's far too small to be the right scale for the Red Terror, IMO.
They could do what they did with Zoanthropes. Have a kit that builds 1 Red Terror (or Ravener Alpha or something) and 2 Raveners, or 3 Raveners.
They're not the oldest kit, having come out in 5th edition, but it'll be nice if they get a good update.
Looking at the Necrons release- they got a fair few individual models [which look amazing]- I could see Nids getting similar, a few single models packs and a couple of kits maybe. I'd say a Red Terror model would be a single model kit. Although I do like that idea of another heavy Ravener type kit. Thats two Nid teasers so far- autumn release maybe [orks in the summer?], could reasonable size [ie not a lone model - but at this stage I'd take anything!!].
Hope they bring back the odd ripper in kits like Nurglings/Cherubs/familiars.. love me a wee ripper- Raveners was the last kit of have a ripper on it.
You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
I looked over them myself and I'm forced to agree.
Really freaking weird.
They could do what they did with Zoanthropes. Have a kit that builds 1 Red Terror (or Ravener Alpha or something) and 2 Raveners, or 3 Raveners.
They're not the oldest kit, having come out in 5th edition, but it'll be nice if they get a good update.
Looking at the Necrons release- they got a fair few individual models [which look amazing]- I could see Nids getting similar, a few single models packs and a couple of kits maybe. I'd say a Red Terror model would be a single model kit. Although I do like that idea of another heavy Ravener type kit. Thats two Nid teasers so far- autumn release maybe [orks in the summer?], could reasonable size [ie not a lone model - but at this stage I'd take anything!!].
Hope they bring back the odd ripper in kits like Nurglings/Cherubs/familiars.. love me a wee ripper- Raveners was the last kit of have a ripper on it.
Necrons aren’t the best comparison. As they were the edition release faction.
Look at DG.
Though it does happen like Ad Mech for instance. There’s a lot more factions that just got a character model and nothing else..
Duskweaver wrote: Going by the crudeness/roughness of the highlighting, that looks to me like a rather small tail that's been significantly magnified. It does look like a tyranid tail, but it's far too small to be the right scale for the Red Terror, IMO.
Put it next to a ravener tail. It isn't that small.
Though really, adjusting the scale of the Red Terror wouldn't go amiss. The current model is rather much for its 40mm base, but not so big it needs to be on 50. A 60mm base would swamp the model (just because its so vertically aligned)
They could do what they did with Zoanthropes. Have a kit that builds 1 Red Terror (or Ravener Alpha or something) and 2 Raveners, or 3 Raveners.
They're not the oldest kit, having come out in 5th edition, but it'll be nice if they get a good update.
Looking at the Necrons release- they got a fair few individual models [which look amazing]- I could see Nids getting similar, a few single models packs and a couple of kits maybe. I'd say a Red Terror model would be a single model kit. Although I do like that idea of another heavy Ravener type kit. Thats two Nid teasers so far- autumn release maybe [orks in the summer?], could reasonable size [ie not a lone model - but at this stage I'd take anything!!].
Hope they bring back the odd ripper in kits like Nurglings/Cherubs/familiars.. love me a wee ripper- Raveners was the last kit of have a ripper on it.
Necrons aren’t the best comparison. As they were the edition release faction.
Look at DG.
Though it does happen like Ad Mech for instance. There’s a lot more factions that just got a character model and nothing else..
Seems like CE are an inconvenience for GW. Was expecting to see the others aspect warriors after the banshees, but it seems that they won't be remade anytime soon, if ever
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
I looked over them myself and I'm forced to agree.
Really freaking weird.
I wouldn't read too much into that. IIRC the recent major Necrons update only had a single rumour engine picture, which was a character that was released with Psychic Awakening before 9E. The massive multi-month Space Marines update only had like 2 pics. A fair proportion of Rumour engine pictures tend to be small, one-off releases like PA characters or models for things like Cursed City and Underworlds.
If GW wanted to hide a major release they definitely can.
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
I looked over them myself and I'm forced to agree.
Really freaking weird.
I wouldn't read too much into that. IIRC the recent major Necrons update only had a single rumour engine picture, which was a character that was released with Psychic Awakening before 9E. The massive multi-month Space Marines update only had like 2 pics. A fair proportion of Rumour engine pictures tend to be small, one-off releases like PA characters or models for things like Cursed City and Underworlds.
If GW wanted to hide a major release they definitely can.
Fair enough.
I'll choose to be optimistic that GW is purposefully hiding a big Eldar model range redo.
It would be nice if we got some sort of positive news though.
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
And? Necrons had close to zero. Last eight units/characters from Eldar/DE factions had what, all of two RE pictures? Cow Elves and Vampires also had close to nothing, most units had nothing in RE and only shown up in direct leaks. Really, I wish GW had rule of at least 1 rumor picture for any new unit but funnily enough some have 3-4 and most have nothing...
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
And? Necrons had close to zero. Last eight units/characters from Eldar/DE factions had what, all of two RE pictures? Cow Elves and Vampires also had close to nothing, most units had nothing in RE and only shown up in direct leaks. Really, I wish GW had rule of at least 1 rumor picture for any new unit but funnily enough some have 3-4 and most have nothing...
Most of what you said is true, but vampires have had a ton of rumor engines. Sure, they've been divided up amongst Underworld teams and the villains of Cursed City, but even then, there are still clearly vampiric rumor engines that haven't been solved yet (most likely for Soulblights)
Craftworld did get Jain Zarr hair as rumor engine once, I think. But yeah, lack of rumor engine doesn't mean no faction update.
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
I looked over them myself and I'm forced to agree.
Really freaking weird.
I wouldn't read too much into that. IIRC the recent major Necrons update only had a single rumour engine picture, which was a character that was released with Psychic Awakening before 9E. The massive multi-month Space Marines update only had like 2 pics. A fair proportion of Rumour engine pictures tend to be small, one-off releases like PA characters or models for things like Cursed City and Underworlds.
If GW wanted to hide a major release they definitely can.
Fair enough.
I'll choose to be optimistic that GW is purposefully hiding a big Eldar model range redo.
It would be nice if we got some sort of positive news though.
Oh great, lets discuss what is not teased in the rumor engine. That must surely be on topic.
Perhaps we could go over everybodys Eldar wishlists again (and the inevitable xenos releases vs marines).
dan2026 wrote: You know I didn't realise until someone pointed it out to me in another thread, that there have seemingly been zero rumour pictures showing anything for Craftworld Eldar.
I looked over them myself and I'm forced to agree.
Really freaking weird.
I wouldn't read too much into that. IIRC the recent major Necrons update only had a single rumour engine picture, which was a character that was released with Psychic Awakening before 9E. The massive multi-month Space Marines update only had like 2 pics. A fair proportion of Rumour engine pictures tend to be small, one-off releases like PA characters or models for things like Cursed City and Underworlds.
If GW wanted to hide a major release they definitely can.
Fair enough.
I'll choose to be optimistic that GW is purposefully hiding a big Eldar model range redo.
It would be nice if we got some sort of positive news though.
Oh great, lets discuss what is not teased in the rumor engine. That must surely be on topic.
Perhaps we could go over everybodys Eldar wishlists again (and the inevitable xenos releases vs marines).
My wishlist is no Marine relases for at least 7 years from now.
LiftForSwift wrote: Could it be more for this rumoured insectoid race for AOS?
They aren’t rumoured. It’s all just guesswork.
Is that still around? That one throw-away line in an Ogre Kingdoms army book survived multiple editions, the destruction of the world and an two editions of a new setting. That's pretty amazing.
I'm definitely out of the loop. What's the deal with this supposed insect race? Is it because we have one rumor engine of weird buggos hatching out of an egg? I know people theorized we were getting some big bug/scorpion thing, but that picture turned out to be Be'lakor's tail, so...
GaroRobe wrote: I'm definitely out of the loop. What's the deal with this supposed insect race? Is it because we have one rumor engine of weird buggos hatching out of an egg? I know people theorized we were getting some big bug/scorpion thing, but that picture turned out to be Be'lakor's tail, so...
There’s some snippets of background lore for Beastgrave about the Silent People which are an insectoid race who may have created the Beastgrave or settled there or something. People seem pretty certain we’ll get an army of them, I’m not convinced myself, not any time soon anyway. Just seems like worldbuilding to me.
GaroRobe wrote: I'm definitely out of the loop. What's the deal with this supposed insect race? Is it because we have one rumor engine of weird buggos hatching out of an egg? I know people theorized we were getting some big bug/scorpion thing, but that picture turned out to be Be'lakor's tail, so...
There’s some snippets of background lore for Beastgrave about the Silent People which are an insectoid race who may have created the Beastgrave or settled there or something. People seem pretty certain we’ll get an army of them, I’m not convinced myself, not any time soon anyway. Just seems like worldbuilding to me.
who knows next season of underworlds might see a warband of them
Definitely one of those "the answer just raises more questions" situations.
Do Ossiarchs have archers? Far right looks like what an Ossiarch archer would look like, I think.
WTH is on the left?
Ossiarchs don't have archers, but would greatly welcome them, as they completly rank ranged units. But i think this is just going to be a dude for their new warband
I think there has been way too much Necromunda from Forge World lately. But hey, what can you expect from a company that that operates like some random garage-model casting thing.
CragHack wrote: I think there has been way too much Necromunda from Forge World lately. But hey, what can you expect from a company that that operates like some random garage-model casting thing.
Necromunda is a Forge World game, so I’d hope there’d be releases for it.
CragHack wrote: I think there has been way too much Necromunda from Forge World lately. But hey, what can you expect from a company that that operates like some random garage-model casting thing.
It's mid-March and FW have this year released 6 new Necromunda figures I think? (2 Escher "cats", 3 Orlock gangers and the new Cawdor ratman)
If an average rate of about 1 model every 2 weeks is unacceptably high, I'm not sure I want to know what a more appropriate release schedule would be according to you...
Though I may have forgotten something or gotten my releases mixed up; keeping track of time in pandemic times isn't easy.
CragHack wrote: I think there has been way too much Necromunda from Forge World lately. But hey, what can you expect from a company that that operates like some random garage-model casting thing.
It's mid-March and FW have this year released 6 new Necromunda figures I think? (2 Escher "cats", 3 Orlock gangers and the new Cawdor ratman)
If an average rate of about 1 model every 2 weeks is unacceptably high, I'm not sure I want to know what a more appropriate release schedule would be according to you...
Though I may have forgotten something or gotten my releases mixed up; keeping track of time in pandemic times isn't easy.
I think he meant that the only thing we've seen out of FW recently has been Necromunda....
I still dont think that's right though, because didnt they also put out the not-Imperator for Titanicus? (That was this year right??)
They say a good Rumour Engine ages like a fine wine. When the fully fledged model is finally revealed, it’s a richer experience as the image contains a hint of recognition from days long past. Take a good look, for your future savouring.
Interestingly, the bat leg/tail still isn't confirmed. Doesn't align with the poses of the Fell Bats, so unless there's a Bat Swarm kit on the horizon too, I'm positively stumped.
The tattered banner from Dec 17 is in the Deathrattle update though, so that's another
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I think the Hoof is also solved, either by Blood Knights or Kragnos.
Spoiler:
Blood Knights don't have horseshoes but Kragnos would fit really well. Still can't figure him out though, something beastmen, maybe a new take on Chaos Dwarfs? Being buried under a mountain & being angry about losing his people seems like a dwarfs thing, also the bronze-agey ornaments on the shield? He's not a bull centaur, though, that's quite obviously a horse tail. Hmmmm
The hand with the two metal knives attached to them, a la wolverine, is probably solved too. The cybork riding the squighog in the trailer looks like he's using it
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I think the Hoof is also solved, either by Blood Knights or Kragnos.
Spoiler:
Blood Knights don't have horseshoes but Kragnos would fit really well. Still can't figure him out though, something beastmen, maybe a new take on Chaos Dwarfs? Being buried under a mountain & being angry about losing his people seems like a dwarfs thing, also the bronze-agey ornaments on the shield? He's not a bull centaur, though, that's quite obviously a horse tail. Hmmmm
Something i noticed today it's the alternative build for Arch-khavalos skeketal horse does have that kind of horseshoes.
The odd thing is that skeletal horse sport a pair of lowerjaw tusk.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I think the Hoof is also solved, either by Blood Knights or Kragnos.
Spoiler:
Blood Knights don't have horseshoes but Kragnos would fit really well. Still can't figure him out though, something beastmen, maybe a new take on Chaos Dwarfs? Being buried under a mountain & being angry about losing his people seems like a dwarfs thing, also the bronze-agey ornaments on the shield? He's not a bull centaur, though, that's quite obviously a horse tail. Hmmmm
Something i noticed today it's the alternative build for Arch-khavalos skeketal horse does have that kind of horseshoes.
The odd thing is that skeletal horse sport a pair of lowerjaw tusk.
The Kavalos mounts have all sorts of animal styled skulls, hippo, bird, crocodile, rhino.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The thing about the Beastsnagga stuff is that now we can legitimately start guessing 'squigs' as the answer again, and we may even be right.
Aww, takes all of the fun out of it.
Reckon that spear is being used to coup de grace a Primaris lieutenant.
The post seems pretty hyped about the full model. Sounds really awesome. Probably AoS.
If you’re at a loss as to what the Rumour Engine is showing us this week, you’re not alone. But one thing is undeniably true – you’re going to think the whole model is awesome when you see the rest of it. Just look at it – it’s halfway to awesome already!
DUnno- maybe its just me being hopeful (probably is!) but those... "mace heads" look too neat for Orks- makes me think chaos...or...dare i say it... Fimir.
(But we all know it won't be Fimir, so my bet is its fits into a new chaos marauder/horseback marauder kit of some kind.
Carlovonsexron wrote: DUnno- maybe its just me being hopeful (probably is!) but those... "mace heads" look too neat for Orks- makes me think chaos...or...dare i say it... Fimir.
(But we all know it won't be Fimir, so my bet is its fits into a new chaos marauder/horseback marauder kit of some kind.
Maybe something for warcry.)
Given that Kragnos has some weird Centaur-Dwarf vibes going....Fimir are possible? Some sort of Centaur/Fimir based Destruction faction?
Carlovonsexron wrote: DUnno- maybe its just me being hopeful (probably is!) but those... "mace heads" look too neat for Orks- makes me think chaos...or...dare i say it... Fimir.
(But we all know it won't be Fimir, so my bet is its fits into a new chaos marauder/horseback marauder kit of some kind.
Maybe something for warcry.)
Given that Kragnos has some weird Centaur-Dwarf vibes going....Fimir are possible? Some sort of Centaur/Fimir based Destruction faction?
If we don't get fimir, I want more fomoroid.
But since FW has stopped selling fimir and chaos dwarves, I'm hopefully we'll get a plastic AOS equivalent. I mean, chaos dwarf-ish dudes have already popped up in BL stories
Deadfingers posted this on B&C, hypothesizing that it might be World Eaters:
DeadFingers, on 30 Mar 2021 - 11:02 PM, said:
Look at the weights at the end of his chains, now back at the Rumour Engine, now back to Khârn, now back at the Rumour Engine. The Rumour Engine is now diamonds a World Eaters Retiarius wielding a weighted net. Say that three times fast.
At the very least it's so similar in design that it might even be the same bit pulled from their CAD files, and anyone that knows me knows I have a tendency to go on and on about GW's use of design language to establish a coherent look across their different ranges. Option B to keep it 40k is that it belongs to the Beast Snaggas, but again, the fact that they're practically identical is making all of my alarms go off.
So again, at the risk of creating hopes that might be dashed later on, I must ask: Is this it? Are we finally seeing a sign of the next Traitor Legion rear its spiky, bunny-eared head over the horizon?
edit: apparently these weights are also on Be'lakor's chains as well, so it is presumably Chaos, even if it isn't WE
Yeah agreed, that was my first thought as well. Could be a cultist unit or something but AOS seems more likely as I can't imagine World Eaters tying knots during arts and crafts hour. Strongly doubt it's Destruction.
Maybe it's some Chaos dude you can hire for your warband in Warcry. Since he has a net, it'll be easier to capture monsters you face, like ogroid, furies, etc.
That was pretty clearly tongue in cheek. That being said, I can't imagine genetically engineered rage-filled murdermen who weigh as much as a small tank using rope nets. A net made out of chains, maybe...
Hmm. I'd agree with a lot of the 'Death' predictions and such, but tbh a lot of the Rumor Engines tend to be for things that are WAY out. Yeah there are some that are immediately apparent or released shortly after their Rumor Engine image comes out, but many more of them tend not to get revealed for long months.
I guess we'll see. The candles look pretty bright and big.
Yeah ... the question is less what but why? There's already a troop kit with this option - so, another specific GSC character (ed. ninja'd by Kan), or something for a board game?
MobileSuitRandom wrote: Yeah ... the question is less what but why? There's already a troop kit with this option - so, another specific GSC character (ed. ninja'd by Kan), or something for a board game?
Probably just the obligatory HQ unit most factions look to be getting. I don't think there's an Acolyte Hybrid HQ, so it's probably that.
MobileSuitRandom wrote: Yeah ... the question is less what but why? There's already a troop kit with this option - so, another specific GSC character (ed. ninja'd by Kan), or something for a board game?
Probably just the obligatory HQ unit most factions look to be getting. I don't think there's an Acolyte Hybrid HQ, so it's probably that.
Just revert the poorly timed nerfs to unit costs, update the weapons to the 9th edition, make the keyword restrictions slightly less obnoxious and I will be happy.
And fix the Chimeras so they can take all GSC infantry, not just BBs. I really miss the flexibility of aberrants/acolytes and supporting characters in those.
This looks definitely like an Eldar control panel. Seems like we're seeing a new Eldar unit (artillery?) before we'll get more plastic Aspects and Phoenix Lords!
Or maybe it is some new gear for Rangers, like a drone or mine?
It's not enough, it's too expensive, it's not x, I hate it, a space marine was released within six months of it, why don't xenos get anything? No, not Necrons, not Orks either... etc etc.
JSG wrote: It's not enough, it's too expensive, it's not x, I hate it, a space marine was released within six months of it, why don't xenos get anything? No, not Necrons, not Orks either... etc etc.
Y'all in the wrong thread, friend. Most of the posts here are us talking about squigs.
JSG wrote: It's not enough, it's too expensive, it's not x, I hate it, a space marine was released within six months of it, why don't xenos get anything? No, not Necrons, not Orks either... etc etc.
Y'all in the wrong thread, friend. Most of the posts here are us talking about squigs.
Sarcasm Squig?
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dan2026 wrote: Is this the first Craftworld rumor picture we have seen in ages?
JSG wrote: It's not enough, it's too expensive, it's not x, I hate it, a space marine was released within six months of it, why don't xenos get anything? No, not Necrons, not Orks either... etc etc.
Wow! One clampack character in however many years. You NPC Armies should be GRATEFUL you're getting anything at all.
JSG wrote: It's not enough, it's too expensive, it's not x, I hate it, a space marine was released within six months of it, why don't xenos get anything? No, not Necrons, not Orks either... etc etc.
Wow! One clampack character in however many years. You NPC Armies should be GRATEFUL you're getting anything at all.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Definitely Craftworld, I’d say. Certainly not Tau, due to the five slender fingers.
Yarp, Id guess at a re-do of a crew member from either Guardian platform or the bigger artillery battery
It would be interesting, given that the hands appear to be wearing leather gloves rather than the Guardian armor...which is more of a Ranger-y thing than Guardians.
First of all, just excited to see a Craftworld image, period.
I do agree with kan that it appears gloved and therefore different than the normal Guardian hand, but it doesn't resemble Rangers either.
I doubt it's for a support weapon as the current one is just fine and reasonably new.
It could be a redone Ranger, and have some kind of new support weapon with it.
It could also be mounted on a vehicle, something open topped.
The cynic says to me it's just a single model......that opens the webwaygate, that gets even worse rules for 9th.
Oguhmek wrote: The new Aeldari Soulguard Starstriders, right?
Sure, because we've never ever had poetic names for units.
Ever.
And it's not like Eldar are given to weird descriptive names like Striking <Insert Animal Here>, Swooping <Insert Animal Here> etc.
As a fun little note, found this tidbit about Illic. Didn't remember the exact names but here are some they've had him go by:
He is known to different Ranger bands by many different titles; the Sentinel of the Stars, the Wayforger, the Shield of Alaitoic, and he cares little which name is used.
It would be kinda interesting to have Rangers getting a new name, if I'm honest.
We now have in other armies:
Rangers(AdMech)
Pathfinders(Tau)
Starstriders(named Rogue Trader Kill Team)
What would you call them if you got the chance? I'd swap the "Waywatcher" or "Waystrider" name over to them. It's gone from AoS now, so it's up for grabs.
It's Aeldari, but I wouldn't be so sure that it is Craftworld-related.
The glove doesn't look craftworldy at all. The three radial bits look like the end of a cable or rope, maybe some sort of rigging. But the concave form doesn't fit the Drukhari aesthetic.
Exodites are a possibility. It is feasible that they use lower-tech ropes for their dragons.
But my money is on a Harlequin thespian stage centrepiece model like the Triumph. Star-bolas have a similar 'three spokes' form. The glove would fit. The concave shape is in line with the Harlequin design ethos. Ropes would fit the theme as well.
Kanluwen wrote: It would be kinda interesting to have Rangers getting a new name, if I'm honest.
We now have in other armies:
Rangers(AdMech)
Pathfinders(Tau)
Starstriders(named Rogue Trader Kill Team)
What would you call them if you got the chance? I'd swap the "Waywatcher" or "Waystrider" name over to them. It's gone from AoS now, so it's up for grabs.
Never mind the fact that the Eldar have had Rangers for longer then any one else you mentioned. Dont fix what ain't broke.
Snrub wrote: Never mind the fact that the Eldar have had Rangers for longer then any one else you mentioned. Dont fix what ain't broke.
I do not disagree with you, but it's something I've been wondering about quietly for awhile now. Apparently Illic has been fairly busy of late, I genuinely would not be surprised to see the Rangers getting a new name and lore making them almost a Tempestus styled 'auxiliary strike force' for the Craftworlders at large.
I'm thinking Exodite too. As in, the new T'au Exodite. If it's truly Eldar, it's probably some Maiden world that got absorbed into the T'au empire and is acting as an Auxiliary for them.
At this point that's probably the only way we'll see actual Eldar Exodite models.
I like the Slicing Orb Aspect Warrior idea. These orbs would probably be flying drone like things with blades that dice their victims.
The hand is there to activate the whirling blades and also gives a point of contact on the model to the flying orb.
The other hand is probably holding an another as yet unactivated orb, which probably has the ball joints flipped downwards under the disk. Kinda like how the little drones we have today fold up.
I’ve always thought it weird that the Eldar, masters of gravity manipulation, never had a weapon that attacked directly via gravitational manipulation. The Imperium somehow has three or four types, but not the guys that use it to fire shuriken at people. Even the vibro-cannon was explicitly a sonic weapon last time I checked the fluff.
So I’d like it if a new aspect shrine used gravitational shear to entrap and destroy enemies.
Not sure why people are saying it doesn't look Craftworld. This is a picture of a Dire Avenger hand, showing the same small balls on the knuckles as the rumour picture..
Mr_Rose wrote: I’ve always thought it weird that the Eldar, masters of gravity manipulation, never had a weapon that attacked directly via gravitational manipulation. The Imperium somehow has three or four types, but not the guys that use it to fire shuriken at people. Even the vibro-cannon was explicitly a sonic weapon last time I checked the fluff.
So I’d like it if a new aspect shrine used gravitational shear to entrap and destroy enemies.
The D-Cannon effectively does that. Though much focus is made on the whole "sucking the target whole into the warp" bit, that is only one of the actual possible effects. The rest of the damage (and the rationale for the high Strength) is supposed to come from the target being torn apart by the spatial distortion caused by the tiny localized warp rift. More likely what happens is the target gets torn apart then the shreds get sucked into the warp. Think of black holes and spaghettification
Mr_Rose wrote: I’ve always thought it weird that the Eldar, masters of gravity manipulation, never had a weapon that attacked directly via gravitational manipulation. The Imperium somehow has three or four types, but not the guys that use it to fire shuriken at people. Even the vibro-cannon was explicitly a sonic weapon last time I checked the fluff.
So I’d like it if a new aspect shrine used gravitational shear to entrap and destroy enemies.
The D-Cannon effectively does that. Though much focus is made on the whole "sucking the target whole into the warp" bit, that is only one of the actual possible effects. The rest of the damage (and the rationale for the high Strength) is supposed to come from the target being torn apart by the spatial distortion caused by the tiny localized warp rift. More likely what happens is the target gets torn apart then the shreds get sucked into the warp. Think of black holes and spaghettification
That’s not a gravity weapon though. It’s explicitly using psychic energy (which the Eldar use like we use electricity) to open a warp rift. Everything else that happens is a “normal” effect of exposure to raw warp energies, and is why imperial ships have Gellar fields to protect them while transiting warp space. Black holes can’t rip things apart in two or more directions at once, or turn them into a small potted plant.
Khahandran wrote: Not sure why people are saying it doesn't look Craftworld. This is a picture of a Dire Avenger hand, showing the same small balls on the knuckles as the rumour picture..
Except it doesn't have them on the knuckles, it has them between and only on the upper phalanges
Khahandran wrote: Not sure why people are saying it doesn't look Craftworld. This is a picture of a Dire Avenger hand, showing the same small balls on the knuckles as the rumour picture..
Except it doesn't have them on the knuckles, it has them between and only on the upper phalanges
We must be looking at different pictures, because they're both absolutely on the knuckles. I mean, I can keep posting more pictures of Dire Avenger hands if you like?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Wonder if might be a new Aspect? Not sure what, but perhaps one which specialises in tactical plans, as I’m getting a map table vibe from the device?
Autarch? Or a sub-leader lieutenant which seem quite popular these days..
Khahandran wrote: Not sure why people are saying it doesn't look Craftworld. This is a picture of a Dire Avenger hand, showing the same small balls on the knuckles as the rumour picture..
Except it doesn't have them on the knuckles, it has them between and only on the upper phalanges
We must be looking at different pictures, because they're both absolutely on the knuckles. I mean, I can keep posting more pictures of Dire Avenger hands if you like?
I see what you're saying, I guess we can't see the upper part of the hand to see if it has the similar armoured outlines.
I can agree that the knuckles appear similar to the one one the Dire Avenger, except a bit more finely detailed and slender. Not surprising as the Dire Avenger kit is rather old.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Wonder if might be a new Aspect? Not sure what, but perhaps one which specialises in tactical plans, as I’m getting a map table vibe from the device?
Autarch? Or a sub-leader lieutenant which seem quite popular these days..
Something like that, yeah.
After all, logistics are a fundamental part of war.
Sure, Eldar tend to hit and run, so I doubt there’s a “wagon train and supplies” Aspect as such. But one for taking the Farseer’s prediction and strategising around that? That I could see, even if they’re an aid du camp to Autarchs.
I'm hoping it's craftworlds, but I can totally see it being some sort of Harlequin device. Maybe some weird hologram projector to disorient their foes even more. And I can easily see GW going the GSC/Death Guard route, and just come up with more special characters for Harlequins, just to add more variety. They could do with a named character too *couch* Veilwalker *cough* or even just a Great Harlequin.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Wonder if might be a new Aspect? Not sure what, but perhaps one which specialises in tactical plans, as I’m getting a map table vibe from the device?
I see it more as a sort of teleport homer thing. Possibly for Warp Spyders?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Wonder if might be a new Aspect? Not sure what, but perhaps one which specialises in tactical plans, as I’m getting a map table vibe from the device?
I see it more as a sort of teleport homer thing. Possibly for Warp Spyders?
It looked a bit more like the Eldar Mines from Dawn of War, I felt.
Sylvaneth cues, yes, but also Lumineth cues as well, like that big ol’ arch thing above their head.
That said, they also seem to be a musician of some sort? There seems to be a horn/pipe there. Maybe that wakes up the eggs? Or commands whatever those spikes are on the ground (attack vines?) maybe?
It looks very Sylvaneth for me, more precisely, like a bigger, badder version of Ylthari. They have a similar arch above-head, vines, and dangly amulet-bits.
Mr_Rose wrote: Sylvaneth cues, yes, but also Lumineth cues as well, like that big ol’ arch thing above their head.
That said, they also seem to be a musician of some sort? There seems to be a horn/pipe there. Maybe that wakes up the eggs? Or commands whatever those spikes are on the ground (attack vines?) maybe?
I guess they could be eggs. My first reaction was leaning towards owls and other birds.
I think you are correct that they are eggs. There is a egg you can see at the top with a head and biters coming out. There is a similar rumour with this egg and bug which looks like ambull baby lol.
Mr_Rose wrote: Sylvaneth cues, yes, but also Lumineth cues as well, like that big ol’ arch thing above their head.
That said, they also seem to be a musician of some sort? There seems to be a horn/pipe there. Maybe that wakes up the eggs? Or commands whatever those spikes are on the ground (attack vines?) maybe?
Now that you mention it he pretty obviously has a trumpet, yea
I think they’re thorny vines on the base of this. The nid tentacle looking one was smooth apart from the carapace looking bit, these have thorns coming off them.
Still have not found the model I wanna use for my C’tan, if he was doing something different with his hands then I’d be more interested here (removing the back piece).
Still the closest I’ve come to the thing I want are those Chaos Dwarf Forge world fire creatures, forget the name now..
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Wonder if might be a new Aspect? Not sure what, but perhaps one which specialises in tactical plans, as I’m getting a map table vibe from the device?
The slicing orbs of zandros are an old aspect mentioned back in 2nd ed and have been mentioned all the way up to now.
It looks weird enough to be that.
However, it would be nice to see more plastic character variation for the CWE. Beyond just autarch/farseer. Or at least more variants on those two.
Hmm, I don't think it's the same. I can't really see the chain on the grot, or the rounded shock absorbers. Possible there are other cyborks (-squigs, -grots) coming.
is this? , need to see a side view to be sure but I think so
Mmmm, no doesn't seem so, the Gretchin's tire has studs on it and the Rumour Engine tire has ribs and ridges like an actual tire. Besides, the Rumour Engine one seems to be coming out of some kind of fleshy or fabric stumps, and the Gretchin's just go up to a metal band on his waist.
Also, the rumour engine support struts are cylindrical where the grot’s are a rough, sharp-edged mess.
Oh and the chain drive should be obvious on the grit but appears missing, plus the rumour engine image has the body leaning much further over the “front” (left of the image).
Finally, I’m pretty sure the flesh in the rumour image is too dark to be the grot’s.
Mr_Rose wrote: Also, the rumour engine support struts are cylindrical where the grot’s are a rough, sharp-edged mess.
Oh and the chain drive should be obvious on the grit but appears missing, plus the rumour engine image has the body leaning much further over the “front” (left of the image).
Finally, I’m pretty sure the flesh in the rumour image is too dark to be the grot’s.
Mr_Rose wrote: Also, the rumour engine support struts are cylindrical where the grot’s are a rough, sharp-edged mess.
Oh and the chain drive should be obvious on the grit but appears missing, plus the rumour engine image has the body leaning much further over the “front” (left of the image).
Finally, I’m pretty sure the flesh in the rumour image is too dark to be the grot’s.
I still think it's gonna be a Squid of some kind
Really? Fishmen (elves?) in 40K? Okay, but I was thinking squig, myself.
But really, I didn’t say it wasn’t, just that there was no way the two images could be of the same model.
Mr_Rose wrote: Also, the rumour engine support struts are cylindrical where the grot’s are a rough, sharp-edged mess.
Oh and the chain drive should be obvious on the grit but appears missing, plus the rumour engine image has the body leaning much further over the “front” (left of the image).
Finally, I’m pretty sure the flesh in the rumour image is too dark to be the grot’s.
I still think it's gonna be a Squid of some kind
Really? Fishmen (elves?) in 40K? Okay, but I was thinking squig, myself.
But really, I didn’t say it wasn’t, just that there was no way the two images could be of the same model.
Are you implying that being a Squid and being a Squig are mutually exclusive.
So, Rumour Engine stuff solved after two days of 'Reveals':
- Kragnos' shield that we already knew about
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- lil' lizard on Kragnos' base
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- Sister's mace, also not that surprising
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- Hagiolater's book and possibly back
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Anything else? That's not that much, isn't it? Given the many other either really obvious (Chaos, something Imperial) or obscure (the brootal pole arms) Rumour Engine images ... guess second 40k day will solve some orky stuff, maybe surprise AOS 3.0 on Saturday with a new Destruction army that solves the kinda feral weaponry?
