Zeit: 23-05-11-1400
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Alarming news from the front: There are rumors about Friendly Fire from Units of the Black Templar. The Colonel said: "THESE ...!! Their interpretation of "Kill the Green Ones" is flying rodent gak! Instead of shooting the Orks they're shooting at us, just because we wear green!"

Rearward troops began to color their uniforms in brown but the expeditionary army on the front was already in the crosshair of the Black Templar and they were eager to kill everything as commanded. It was said to kill them, perhaps the Death Korps became Renegades?!
Surprisingly, the Orks were totaly happy about it: "New Green Friends! GREEEEN!" With these words they ran past the Imperial Soldiers towards the Black Templars. We were OK with this, this way we had a living, green protective barrier in front of us.
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Players:
Arabist and his friend, each with 1500 points of the Black Templars from Arabist.
Garthor with 1500 points of Orks
doubleT with 1500 points of Death Korps
Everything painted!

Targets:
Primary mission target was a relais on the platform in the center. For the Death Korps this was maybe the possibility to contact some command that would inform the Black Templars about their mistake.
Secondary targets were a smaller relais in the woods, an anti-air gun, a small bunker and a big bunker.



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Situation:
In front of us we saw 6 tanks. On the left side on a hill stood a Razorback. It was supposed to have 6 Marines on board. In front of the hill was a unit of Marines with Neophytes. They were commanded by a Champion of the Emperor and accompanied by a Dreadnought.

To the right of them was a fear inducing sight: A Land Raider, probably full with a huge unit of Marines under the command of the company commander Hellbrecht. Next was another Razorback, followed by an Achilles. Another fear inducing sight!

On the far right was a Predator and a Vindicator behind a big unit of Marines.





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Our own situation:
The artillery was in position on a secured hill, Bunker Hill. In front of them, holding the anti-air gun was a unit of autocannon teams. The colonel had some soldiers organize some comfy garden chars and spend the day sitting right next to the artillery - from here he had a good view over the battlefield. The Master of Ordnance had a great view, too, but he too was allowed to sit back and relax a view times to smoke a cigar with the Colonel.

In front of Bunker Hill was a loud and noisy unit of Orks with heavy weaponry.

To the right of the hill were the Grenadiers, ready to head towards the forrest. They were accompanied by a unit of infantry and their command. In front of them was another unit of Orks. Because the Imperial soldiers were a bit sceptical about their "new friends" they decided to let them run in front and to wait what would happen.

In the center was a big close combat unit from 3 combined squads. They had bayonets (count as pistols and close combat weapons) and a flamer for each squad. The unit was accompanied by a commissar and the Quartermaster with the medical servitor (Feel no Pain).
Directly behind the 35 men were some Orks in cans. One of them was the Big Boss and they were accompanied by a crazy doc.

To the right of the 35 men was another unit of Orks. Behind them was a unit of the Death Korps. Next to a ruin was another unit waiting to climb to the top. They were accompaned by anoher platoon command squad. To the far right was a loud and noisy unit of Orks on bikes. Far behind them was a unit of Gretchins.







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Round 1 – Black Templars
Right from the beginning there was a lot of respect - if not fear - for the orks on bikes. The command couldn't decide how to face this danger, though, because they had also a lot of respect for the huge close combat unit on the other side of the platform that would need some attention.
For the beginning, they settled for a slow movement towards the enemy with only few repositioning. Only the big unit on the left decided to run towards and into the woods. Meanwhile, the other units shot at the orks - which were a very good protective barricade from my point of view.

On the other hand ... a lot of shots didn't even reach us, so we felt rather safe.



On the right side they couldn't quite agree wether to flee or to block the path of the bikers. Anyhow, on this side they reached better results with the dice and made the unit of orks running:



At the end of his first turn he killed some orks and only two Imperial soldiers that by chance found themselfes under one of his templates.



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Round 1 – Death Korps and Orks

The horde is runnung. The fleeing orks managed to get back into the game and went towards the enemy. On the whole line, troops marched forward. Well, the orks ran and the disciplined Imperial soldiers marched forward. My guys at the ruin tried to climb into the first floor of the ruin ... double one, obviously they had fear of heights.
While a lot of the orks were a living protective barrier for me, the killacans used my close combat unit as a protective barrier themselfes.

The roaring sound of the artillery was heard all over the battlefield. While the Colonel enjoyed a cool beverage, the Master of Ordnance commanded the artillery to fire at the unit in the woods. "His" shot was a hit, but even these scatter, but only 4 inches, which were nullified completely by his BS. Bull's eye! The Heavy Mortar, for which I can reroll the scatter dice, immediately scored a hit with the same template:



The Thuddgun scattered and nearly hit the orks.

The bikers drove forward - but only so far that the Templar couldn't attack him. Behind them the Gretchins dared to follow them. But now the bikers shot at the Marines, whereupon the Marines run toward him - 1 inch.

I totally forgot about my 4 grenade throwers in the infantry units and the grenadier unit ...
The autocannons also score some hits in the forrest, the Templars don't seem to roll well when rolling for their cover saves.





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Round 2 – Black Templars

The ork player fittingly said about a discussion among the Tamplars: "The bikers do what they do best." They cause fear and distraction.

Additional forces were send: In the back of the bikers - and directly in front of me - the Black Templars shock troops landed without scatter. Later they shot at my unit and killed nearly everything with their two flamers: 1 commissar, 1 watchmaster 3 veterans - including the standard bearer - and 9 soldiers were killed. The officer and his remaining melta gunner miraculously didn't flee but stood in the charred remains of their comrades. The commissar would have been proud - but then again ... this is expected of the officer!!

Missing: 14 Death Korps soldiers:



The 2nd shock troop tried to land between my unit and the ruin but he scattered directly into my unit and rolled to find out that they would come late.

What else happened? Well, just moments ago there was a unit of orks on the dark arear:



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Round 2 – Death Korps and Orks

The Colonel stood up and took the binoculars - he had to watch this! For the first time he had the Engineers with their Hades Breaching Drill under his command. Their action now would help him decide wether or not the engineers would see more action in the future. And what a performance ensued ...
No scatter!
The engineers calculations were perfect and they ascended directly under the Land Raider of the command unit. The mighty drill head and the melta cutter worked on the bottom side of the Land Raider and ...

S10 + 6 + 4 = 20

The Hades opened the Land Raider like a can of beans. The +1 on the following roll of 3 made sure the Land Raider wouldn't move any further. The marines would now have to go by foot.



The colonel was laughing and sat back into his sunlounger. The engineers had prooven themselves as usefull even though they were still underground. Maybe they get another drill and some more engineers ...

The Master of Ordnance nodded but said: "Nice, but watch this!" He gave the artillery a signal and the barrels of the guns filled the air with thunder. They sent their greetings of steel and fire towards the Marines. "His" shot scattered but still hit some of them. The Heavy Mortar had to reroll for scatter and hit directly. But now it was time for the Thuddgun: Hit, slight scatter, hit again and again some scatter. The Heavy Bolter of the Colonel's veterans joined the storm of steel and explosion. It was devastating. It was pure overkill! All the cover saves he could throw didn't help him. The Champion of the Emperor was the only one still alive. Blind of rage he ran towards the orks that were closing in on him.





Meanwhile the Autocannons hat the Razorback in their sights. With two grazings shots and a direct hit they destroyed his weapon and immobilized him.



In the center the killacans ran past the Imperial soldiers toward the immobilized Land Raider.



To the right, the remaining infantry unit shot at the shock troops and were joined by the gretchins. They managed to kill 3 Marines! In the same time the close combat unit reached the platform and some even managed to climb it.
The orks ran into the forrest and attacked the Champion of the Emperor. They suffered losses without killing him but remained in combat.



On the right side, the bikes attacked the Marines in front of them that stood in front of the Vindicators dozer blade to protect him (some said, the dozer blade was just there to keep the Marines from runing away ...).



The orks suffered some losses but those suffered a lot more.



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Round 3 – Black Templars

Unease in the enemies command center. Over 30 cassualties, an immobilzed Razroback AND an immobilized Land Raider! The mission target in their own area wasn't taken, the mission target in the forrest was nearly lost, the main target nearly taken by the Death Korps and the big bunker is nearly taken by Gretchins. Additionally, they find out that the target on our side is indeed taken by standard troops as the heavy weapon team is part of the infantry platoon. It's not looking well.
One last chance: The shock troops should try to distract the enemy and change the fate. They try to jump in between the platform and the ruins but they scatter. There is a short moment of desperation and fear until they know that they will land on the platform. Everything went better than expected. This way they can attack the Death Korps that try to get the main target.



As expected, the command unit in the Land Raider left their immobilized vehicle. On the far left six Marines also left their immobilized Razorback.



The danger from the bikers nearly induce the commanders to make use of desperate measurements: "I want to shoot the bikers - even if they are in close combat and I might hit my own Marines. I have to kill the bikers!"

But instead they shoot at the close combat squad on the platform. The Death Korps suffered heavy losses even with the medical servitor in reach. But they don't run away.
Another shot at the Hades immobilizes the drill for the next round.
Yet another shot goes towards the now feared autocannons - but remains without impact.
The last shot causes 4 templates over the Gretchins ... Survivors? HAHAHAHAHA ...

In the close combat it gets clear that the Templars may shoot at the bikers again in the next round - the remaining four Marines were killed.



In the forrest the Champion of the Emperor is killed, too, and Hellbrecht and his unit run toward the killacans.



I thinkt the Templars made some mistakes in distinguishing their attacks so that he only killed one ork. The Big Boss hits back and ... kills Hellbrecht

Hellbrecht



No Hellbrecht



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Round 3 – Death Korps and Orks

The engineers come out of their tunnel and look around. The colonel watches them and thinks: Their work was a success, so far. But that was mostly due to the Hades, which is now lying around uselessly. Even worse: The unit is only 5 men strong. But the enemy doesn't now about the melta bombs.

There's nearly no movement. On the left the grenadiers and the infantry run towards and into the woods. On the right side I forget to move my infantry.

The artillery has no good targets right now. The Thuddgun uses this turn to reload. On the right side we shoot at the shock troops again: One marine dies. The bikers attack the Vindicator and destroy him.

The engineers show again what they are good for: The melta bomb destroys the storm cannon of the Land Raider.



Close Combat!! That's what they are here for: The close combat unit gets +1 attack, another +1 for their bayonets (count as pistols and close combat weapons). Their flamers and the commissar with energy sword join in. All these dice ... and only three marines die. Still the Death Korps consider themselves as invincible!



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Round 4 – Black Templars

Desperation?
After quite some consideration the Marines bring their remaining Razorback to the platform and 6 marines climb up to the Death Korps - maybe this changes the fate. The Predator shoots at the bikers and only three remain. Three bikers, that's not very dangerous, right? RIGHT??
The shock troops on the right side decide to jump onto the ruins.



In the woods it's going good for the Templars: The Dreadnought kills 9 grenadiers and 3 infantry soldiers. The remaining grenadier watchmaster loses his mind in the charred remains of his comrade, turns around and runs away screaming, passing the lieutenant. The lieutenant only shrugs and doesn't move an inch.



The 6 marines from the immobilized Razorback wanted to run to their "own" mission target, the small bunker, but now they were angry about the melta bombs and shot at the engineers. One engineer dies and the remaining phone the Colonel ...

In the center, the remaining Marines lose against the cans and die.

On the platform the 6 fresh Marines join the combat. A lot of Imperial soldiers die but the Marines suffer some losses, too.
The Imperial soldiers still decide to run away, whereupon the commissar executes the watchmaster and resores leadership, moral and order.



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Round 4 – Death Korps and Orks

BOOM! The Master of Ordnance orders a shot at the Marines that kill the colones beloved engineer. Two Marines die, four lie on. But not for long: BOOM! The heavy mortar shoots, scatters, rerolls and ... Bull's eye. All remaining Marines are killed.



CHARGE! The bikers think that the unusually colorfull Achilles looks quite quite and decide to attack it despite it's size - or because of it'S size?? Well, they do it! They destroy the Achilles!!



WAAAGH! The cans decide to join in on the fight on the platform. Together the Green guys kill some Marines.



All grenades and shots at the Dreadnought didn't do anything, though ...

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Round 5 – Black Templars

There's nothing much to tell you here: In the close combat both the Marines and the Death Korps lost a lot of men.
One of the bikers is killed and only two remain. Now, two cannot be of much danger, right? RIGHT?
The two Marines from the shock troop jump from the rion to the big bunker. They cannot get the mission target (only standard troops can) but now it's safe to say that we cannot get it. In an act of sheer hate, the Land Raider shoots at the Hades Breaching Drill and destroys it - finally.



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Round 5 – Death Korps and Orks

BOOM! The artillery joins in a concert of steel of fire and finally destroys the Dreadnought in the forrest.
In the close combat on the platform, the commissar kills the remaining Marine - the fight is won!

Now the funniest part:
The two bikers decide to charge the Land Raider, hit it and ... BOOM! The Land Raider explodes.

No Orks or Death Korps were harmed during this scene.



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Results!

Remaining troops on the table:

- Templars: One mobile Razorback and two Marines from the shock troop unit.

- Orks: 4 cans

- Death Korps: Company command, heavy mortar, thuddgun, autocannon squad, one infantry squad and the Quartermaster survived without any losses! (492 points, so nearly 1/3 of my list)

To be fair, I have to say that this is mostly due to the orks taking a lot of the cassualties.

Luckily enough, they never attacked or shot at my Quartermaster. I think he thought he was attached to the unit. But he was only following the unit.

The Hades was a lot of fun. I think I need one or two more.

The bikers caused a lot of fear and pain again. They really stood up to their reputation and I fear them as enemies.

The close combat unit is a good choice. It's ok to change their lasguns for laspistols to get +1 attack.

I think I have to sacrifice some minor dice for my scatter dice or something like that. They are unbelievable good.

Several times I forgot to shoot my grenade throwers. I also forgot about some items my units had. Or orders ...

Bunker Hill:




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At this point:

Thanks! To Garthor, the ork player, who helped me from time to time with some rules.

Thanks! To Arabist for the invitation to the game on a really cool table. And a big thumbs up for all his awesome painted Black Templars. Truely a beautiful army and I hope to fight on his side next time instead of against him.
And greetings to Arabists buddy! It was a good game!

And finally: Thanks! To all my readers on this board! I hope you enjoyed this battle report.

WOW! That was sheer brilliance distilled in tabletop form!

Great table, beautifully painted and converted (and FW! ) armies, and great terrian. It brings a tear to my eye...

You should post this in the batrep section as well, more people should get to see this.

Awesome! It really comes together when the table, terrain and armies are finished so beautifully. It could only be better if the photos didn't include game paraphernalia! (Not that I'm suggesting you try this - there's just nothing else to fault!)

This is one of the few battle reports that I've actually read all the way through and went back for a second pass. Love the armies!

Absolutley suberb work! Nice batrep as well. Can't wait to see what you paint up next

Haha I must admit the Master of Ordnance is brilliant when scatters arent too much of a worry, although the other artillery helps too! Fantastic work with that drill, great can opener! A brutal, bloody, and fun battle it must have been

^^ +1

Really cool Death Korps!

Thanks a lot.

A few things my buddy told me I had wrong:

- At the end I said he had 4 cans left. I forgot the 2 bikers.
- The hit against the Achilles was a direct hit with a 6 but he negates this to a 5
- In the close combat against Hellbrecht, Hellbrecht killed the crazy Doc, so the orks didn't have FnP anymore. All his Marines attacked normal cans but not the Big Boss, who in return killed Hellbrecht.
- And he said the Dreadnought in the forrest was killed by my Autocannons, not the artillery. I must have already slept in the last round ...

This makes me like the Autocannons even more.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:You should post this in the batrep section as well, more people should get to see this.

Thank you for suggestions, I did so.

Arakasi wrote:Awesome! It really comes together when the table, terrain and armies are finished so beautifully. It could only be better if the photos didn't include game paraphernalia! (Not that I'm suggesting you try this - there's just nothing else to fault!)

I know. Well, most of the time I had to grab the camera real quick in the middle of the game, so I just ignored the templates, dice and tape measure. Next time I'll try to remove them.

LeBaron wrote:This is one of the few battle reports that I've actually read all the way through and went back for a second pass. Love the armies!

Thank you! Haha, I usually don't like reading battle reports, too. So I knew what to avoid, I guess.

Excellent battle report! I really liked the explanation at the beginning, the background fluff always makes for a good batrep. And as usual, very beautiful models, all around!

This is awesome, Consider your ideas stolen...

Keep it up.

do you muddy the basses before you glue the models to them or after?

Wow . . I recently bought the IG codex & had my mind set on Harakoni Warhawks . . Now I'm not so sure . . DKoK are so mindblowingly boss. My only worry is the amount of $ that FW will be robbing me of.

Incredible army. A true inspiration for us all. I love your attention to detail. Really like your muddy bases and the mud on the troopers!
Keep it up!

Are you still working on your DKOK army?

Edit: oops, realize im becoming guilty of my very first thread-mancy... but honstly i think this thread deserves the necromancy, to cool to "die"..!

Now thats a battle report . Great photos and minitures that are painted . Man had to catch up on your thread (several pages behind) and love all of your work. Cant wait to see more.

LordofMuck wrote:
Are you still working on your DKOK army?

Edit: oops, realize im becoming guilty of my very first thread-mancy... but honstly i think this thread deserves the necromancy, to cool to "die"..!

Thanks a lot, guys!

Not really thread-mancy as I've not closed that project, yet. The wishlist is long and I'm definitely going to continue working on the DKoK Army!
Had a lot of other purchases that were more needed, so there was not much money for FW, lately.

Very nice sir...

Subed for the awesomeness of Kreig.

I for one am glad its re-opened as I would never have seen your great DOK Army. Almost makes me wish I hadn't went the Elysian route. You've captured the WW1/ DOK theme very well.

doubleT wrote:Not really thread-mancy as I've not closed that project, yet.

Excellent...

Good, cause i just ordered some FW grenadeers and was going to use the same muddy bases and theme.

Needless to say this thread was very inspiring. Keep it up.

What lovely mud...

nothing better than two beautifly painted armys vs. each other

Thanks

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:Almost makes me wish I hadn't went the Elysian route.

Nah, don't. The Elysians are awesome, too. Actually, I'd love to build an Elysian army just using the FW models and Valks, nothing else.

This is absolutely breathtaking. Thank you for sharing!

I think I'll get three Leman Russ – Mars Alpha Pattern – next, in order to get to 2000 points.

I'd love to build a Leman Russ based on the Malcador. But with the track cover and side sponsons of the Malcador Infernus and the smaller barrels from the Malcador Defender.



But for that I'd have to get 3 Malcador first and then sell 2: The Malcador Infernus with standard-Malcador sides and a Malcador Defender with the big barrel. (or keep them ... I wanted to build a terrain-piece with the Defender anyway ...)

Sounds great, but.. uhm.. that would be the damn most expansive russ ever XD

Why not just use the Malcador itself?

I have loved the korps since I saw the first models and I have to say that your style really shines on these models. Great job!

The mud tutorial is also a welcome addition... now where to get some sawdust, hmmm

Well, the example above would be my favorite choice. Plan B would be the Malcador with the LR turret.
I think I could sell the Defender with the exchanged fuel barrel without (much) loss on eBay. Maybe even the Infernus with exchanged sides.

As I said, I think I'll start with Plan C: Leman Russ Mars Alpha Pattern.

Quick teaser:

Look what came in with the mail today ...

Oooo tasty!

Good God man.

This is outstanding!

(Love the Dreadfleet flyer placed in the parcel!)

i love how realistic your dkok look inspiring stuff im gonna work on my guard now.....

Thanks

Eiríkr wrote:
(Love the Dreadfleet flyer placed in the parcel!)

Haha, didn't even notice. No, really, I didn't read one word on it!

Another quick pic for you all:


I'm going to do heretic things with a saw to it. But in the end I think it'll be worth it!

doubleT wrote:

I'm going to do heretic things with a saw to it. But in the end I think it'll be worth it!

Just remember, if you screw it up, you're going to hell... and the dice gods will never forgive you.

Yes! Are you doing it like cerebralerebus on warseer? Saw you were asking about that the other day!

I really like the green colour of their coats and the paint jobs are also very nice keep them comming count me subscribed!

How do you get the lil barbed wire?

Here you go:
My barbed wire tutorial

@ Vitruvian: Yes, but I'm also planing to go a bit deeper.

Thanks for the battle report, great stuff.

Deeper? Intrigued now! DO you mean the turret will be lower?

Thx, Tortured-Robot

Vitruvian, by "deeper" I ment that I take his idea and go a bit further, if everythings works out the way I plan.

Ooh, another project to work on! Can't wait to see the final product.

While we are waiting for more things to arrive (nah, only some bitz from ebay) before I can start on several *cough* conversions, I will distract you with some lascannon teams.





Magnets at a model that is going to be glued to a base anyway?
Yes. When I worked on the the autocannons the parts glued to my fingers but not where they belonged to. So I fixed the poisitions of the arms. This will also help painting because now I can paint everyting and glue it in place when it's finished.
And I have about 50 of these 1mm magnets lying around.

WOW, I've just read through your blog and I am very impressed. Models are awsome, battle reps are awsome, hell, this blog is BEYOND awsome! I have jut decided to start a DKOK army myself sometime!

Subscibed and exalted!

AMAZE!

Love the army and that batrep is probably one of the most impressive I've ever seen.

need I say any more



Your army is EPIC you must be minted to afford every thing from forge world and btw a bane blade wouldn't be a bad idea for your army

Thanks, guys!! I appreciate your comments!

Unfortunately, I have no update on the lascannon teams. I did, however, start with a commissar and another mini.

Here's a little Teaser:



I'm still doing the upper hand (it's magnetized to test how it fits).

I'm trying to build some more with different poses. They are going into my close combat squad, thanks to DKoK being able to give platoon standards to normal squads.

i like the pose on that boy, hes going to turn out nice!

A bit late considering how long ago they were painted, but how'd you do the skull mask on the grenadiers?

I am working on mine and I'd like to achieve the same effect (So far I am going Black Primer/Chaos Black (in case of paint dripping) for the lens and boltgun metal + badab black wash for rim)

The masks are Bleached Bone, washed lightly with Badab Black.

Well hell I was close, already painted them skull white, wasnt sure if I should wash them, now I am.

Thanks

Painted half a mini yesterday:





The guy with the flag is ready, too, but he's waiting to be based.

Wow that looks awesome, great blending on the reds

DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WAN...
wait where is my sword?


great work^^

He doesn't need a sword, he's staring them down!

edit: It's time for Mr. Malcador to meet Mr. Saw.

How have I missed this!?
I absolutely love everything you've done. But IMO there isn't enough mud above the knees. But that's just me, I'm very odd like that.
MOAR!

I'm always in a fight with myself over the mud. Too little, too much. I don't want to put a heavy layer of mud over EVERY soldier.
I'm also not going for the look of them having been lying on the ground much but more like having been in the mud kneedeep.

Here's an older pic just for you:


See that one in the middle? Meanwhile there are some that are a bit more dirty than others. It's a way to distinguish between squads, too. Some have bayonets, some have rucksacks, some are very dirty veterans, ...

If you've read the battle report, one officer and his HW gunner will get a little "burned" look as they survived a brutal flamethrower attack in the big game.

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Now to a new addition:

Here's the first of the standard bearers for the close combat unit:







I don't really like how the strap of the gun turned out this time. I'm thinking about trying again. And I have to see that I get a new pot of yellow. As you can see I used yellow on the first flag and Bubonic Brown on the other two.

btw. this is a conversion that I planed to do for a long time now! I'm happy I finally had all the parts together!

PS: I'm a bit unhappy with the look of my stilized barbed wire, lately (--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- ...)

This is so cool!
Did that Malclador come with the renegade commander?

the guys look great, and about the barbed wire, i like yours but if you dont what about this?
( =x=X==x=X==x=X==x=X==x= )

Man, the banner-bearers look good! Actually, I don't think I would have noticed much if you mentioned using two different colors for the flag. They all look nice.
If I may be so bold as to suggest, the bubonic brown ones look dirtier and a bit faded out. Maybe you could use that for all of them?

Best DKoK i've ever seen! Specially on such a large scale, and still growing! Awesome work!

Like the latest stuff! you must be keeping FW in business HAHA

Latest stuff looks great as always!

Thanks, guys!

Capitansolstice wrote:This is so cool!
Did that Malclador come with the renegade commander?

That Malcador came with two Cadian/Imperial tank commanders and two Renegade commanders. Unfortunately, no DKoK commander.

Dr. Temujin wrote:Man, the banner-bearers look good! Actually, I don't think I would have noticed much if you mentioned using two different colors for the flag. They all look nice.
If I may be so bold as to suggest, the bubonic brown ones look dirtier and a bit faded out. Maybe you could use that for all of them?

I might just do that!

That seems like a waste

Lurrrrvley!
I know what you mean about the mud on the models, it's just after spending time slipping and sliding through trenches I find mud all over myself! Armpits being the most surprising...

I like your pencil.....

its nice to read some german words here on dakka......and be one of the few persons who undertand them

"Art is nice, but is too much work"???

From my limited German..

Vitruvian XVII wrote:"Art is nice, but is too much work"???

From my limited German..

gotb that nearly right......jut leave out the "too"

Yay! I can sort of remember

Good thing they put the DKoK tank commander back on sale.
Double T these guys are stunning,I too treat my bases like models themselves.
I would like to turn you on to a product I have been using,you probally heard about it, MIG powder and AK Interactive weathering powders and products.
This is what the modern armor modelers use,produces the most realistic effects.
http://ak-interactive-usa.com/
This stuff mixed with a little plaster of paris can make all sorts of effects the morelaster the thicker the mud.
Load up a brush load of it and hold next to a vehicle ,and blast with a low pressure air from your airbrush makes very realistic splatters
Here is a link to the mud effects in use
http://ak-interactive.blogspot.com/search/label/fresh%20mud
Look forward to more of your Krieg.

The New flag bearers are very good.

@ Eisenhorn:

Thanks for the links and the suggestion of the powders. (Sounds a bit like you get paid to advertise it, though. )
I'll take a look at it. Unfortunately, I don't have an airbrush, yet. But I was thinking about it, now that I start with the tanks anyway.

@ neil:

There's only one new flag bearer: The running one.

I have no connection to the company,just a modeler shareing something good.
Like you I am a hard core painter,check out my Merican Lancer Tank,you see what I mean.
I love,love,love painting armor,a couple years ago,I started trolling the modern Afv type of boards(armorama,and Fine Scale Modeler) to learn new tricks.
I stumbled on a series of articles by MIg Jimenez who is one of the top names in scale modeling and discovered his products.
MIG pigments and filters.
You do not need the airbrush that just provides the most realism,flicking a loaded brush on a model will work too.
But with your skill,you really should put aside $100-150 on a midgrade airbrush and compressor off E-bay.
You will glad that you did

I didn't want to accuse you of advertising, don't get me wrong. I just thought that it sounds like they could use that wording in advertising. You seem to be really impressed by that stuff.

I read Mig Jimenez blog from time to time (I love the latest parts about that Tiger) and I'm amazed by his skills!

Up until now the Hades and the Centaur were the only vehicles I ever did, so painting tanks is something new for me. I'm not really happy with how the Centaur looks atm. and I will surely go over it again.

Speaking of tanks ...

I said that I would do heretic things to a Malcador, but after sawing it apart and taking a 15 (!) mm drill to it, the outcome is just divine (imho):



The mother of all Leman Russes! Still heavily WIP, but ... yeah. I like it!
I put some other things around it to show the scale.

And of course this baby is screaming for a better paint job / weathering than the Centaur!

doubleT; I am sorry if this is a repeat question but how have you achieved the wonderful mud and dust effect?

With mud.
The mud is woodglue, sawdust, fine sand and a bit of water. Painted with Bestial Brown, washed with Devlan Mud and darker parts with Badab Black.
The dust / dry mud is Bestial Brown with Scorched Brown, not mixed but next to each other and I dip the brush in both. Lightly drybrushed on!

doubleT wrote:

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Mud Base Tutorial
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What you'll need:
- a base
- wood glue
- fine sand
- sawdust

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Mix all the components with a little drop of water.

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Put it all on the base with a toothpic or an old brush and let it dry.



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Drown it in Bestial Brown - no need to thin it.

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Drown it in Devlan Mud Wash.

It'll look like this when it' dryed:



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For a little dry-brush touch up and mud on clothes, I add a drop of Bestial Brown and a drop of Scorched Brown next to each other on a plate or something.

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Dip the brush in between bos and mix them a little, then drybrush the mud for a nice finish and the clothes of the miniature to add dirt and weathering.

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Results:



You can see lots of minis where I used this technique in my project:
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--+- Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times -+--
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I hope you like it,

Torben.

Ahh! Great, thank you so much.

I love the Super Russ you should source another Krieg banner for top.
Yeah using MIG almost feels like cheating sometimes
That tiger article is what made me start my Winter Camo Russ Company.

As I said, I'd like to make some more of this "Malca-Russ". And one will get a banner, of course!

I was asked how the "Malca-Russ" compares to the Leman Russ, sizewise. Unfortunately, I don't have Leman Russ here. It should be as high and nearly as wide as the Leman Russ but a little bit longer.

Here's a pic next to my old Chimera-Russ project:



Nearly as wide as the Chimera, a little wider and longer. I made the mistake of not putting them directly side by side. I'll try to "borrow" a Leman Russ to pose for a comparison, soon. As I said, it should be of the same height and wide but a bit longer. I hope my opponents won't have a problem with that. I'm sure I can manage to measure in their favor if there's a questionable situation.

Super russ is looking awesome - and plays to my inner tread head!

taht is one awsome tank!

I personally like the old Malclador, but like what you did with this
What plans do you have for the defiled turret?

Would make a nice bunker, I guess.

Haha yeah that would look really cool on top of a concrete pillbox/base.

Alternative:





With or without track covers?

What do you think? Which one is better?

With imo

Without!!! Are you going to put a gap in the turret? to give it some height so that it looks like it can actually swivel instead of being mounted on top?

Keep the Track Guards.

With. Looks better and it makes more sense. Footsloggers can then sit on top without getting serious road rash on their butts.

Agh! Missed precious updates! Where have I been all this time? The latest banner bearer looks great, good posing there. Also live that tank, not sure exactly why but the design just appeals to me!

( exalting this, I refuse to miss another update!)


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(I vote for the added track guards! )

I think it looks great with AND without the guards..... Maybe you can pin them. Then you could always switch....

If i had to decide though, I'd go for with

Capitansolstice wrote:Are you going to put a gap in the turret? to give it some height so that it looks like it can actually swivel instead of being mounted on top?

You mean a small ring around the base of the turret? Yeah, I guess so. I'll have to do some detail work on that part anyway.

I still can't decide what tracks I'll use ... :(

Ruleswise I'll need the outside sponsons, anyway. But my plan was to magnetize the sponson opening so I can change between inside sponsons, outside sponsons and just a flat wall with rivets and maybe some Krieg freehand artwork.

I'm away now for a few days. Maybe I can make a final decision when I get back.

But I can't leave you without giving you the next teaser, can I?



Heavily WIP, and the arm looks much better now.

Good green stuff work there dude!

Commander Cain wrote: Good green stuff work there dude!

Yeah!
Is that a commissar?

doubleT wrote:
With or without track covers?

What do you think? Which one is better?

With! Unless, of course, you will give me the track covers you don't use

Capitansolstice wrote:Without!!! Are you going to put a gap in the turret? to give it some height so that it looks like it can actually swivel instead of being mounted on top?

I agree. A little space there would look good.

Keep up the great work!
Rawson

I hope you're going to cover it in all kinds of lovely stowage.
How about some racks on the sides/rear of the turret?
Something like this

I think it'd really bring it to life.

I must say, I like the look of the malcador/russ so far, it actually looks like a cross between WWII and modern tanks right now.

I have good news that partially mean bad news, too.

I got a new job (self employed before). That means regular income (yeah!), less spare time, moving out, ...
But now I have a box full of FW stuff so it won't be like the last half of the last year were I simply couldn't do anything. The tank will have to wait, though. I want to get an airbrush first and also some MIG / AK weathering powders.

Congrats on the job,regular income is more gooder.
Airbrush you say...
Let me know when you get it and I will turn you on to yet more stuff to burn your wallet.
I just stumbled onto 1/35 scale stencils for military markings( numbers and letters)
They also have a Gerrman one that would be perfect,perfect,perfect for Krieg.
I'll give ya more info when I get and test it.

Do not buy a tiny bottle of airbrush cleaner,buy a can of lacquar thinner from Home Depot,it is the same stuff for a tenth of the price.
The can of Odorless thinner seems to work as good as Mona Lisa to me,maybe a tiny bit stronger but the difference is not enough to even notice also for a tenth of the price.
The can of odorless thinner is what I use instead of buying the thinners from MIG or AK,works just as well.


I just noticed you are from Germany,you are the second guy I met this month from there on the Nets,both of you guys are cool as hell.
How sick is it if it was 70 years ago,we would be trying to kill each other with every fiber of our beings.
Maybe if they had the net back then,they would of swapped tips on how to paint WW1 minis instead of bullets.

Thanks, Eisenhorn. Yeah, I'd be very interested in what tips you might have for me. Just send me whatever you got/think I could need. And yes, I'm really looking for markings!!

Yes, I'm from Germany and I can assure you that there are a lot of cool guys over here. Idiots, too, sure. But I gues you'll find those anywhere in the world.

So, I was quite busy with work the last weeks. The first days (1 1/2 weeks now) have been very cool. Quite hard to get up so early again (self employed people get to sleep longer ... ) and work 8 hours, but the people I work with are really nice and cool and help me a lot and it's fun to work with them. I'd say it's a perfect job, because apart from the cool atmosphere and the really good pay, I think I'll learn a lot from the job and I also see some possibilities to help them improve their work in the future, due to my knowledge.

Still I was able to go get some liquid greenstuff to work on my mounted commissar. The GW in Hamburg is just a few minutes from where I work.

I coated him black to see how the texture looks. I'm not quite satisfied ...

never knew DKoK tails looked like that..

Its almost what a real horses tail looks like when you remove all the hair.

It looks fine IMO. Keep up the good work always awesome to see another Krieg Players work !

I cannot begin to fathom the amount of money you have spent on dkok, but they are amazing!!

excellent commissar conversion . I chopped that one up myself and regretted it when they took him off forgeworld , glad he is back now.

Great job on the commissar … but have to ask why not just buy the FW event model

Love this army some great stuff here

lone dirty dog wrote:why not just buy the FW event model

Even with cutting up a rough rider and a commissar this conversion is still about a third of the price those event commissars go for on eBay.

TiB wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:why not just buy the FW event model

Even with cutting up a rough rider and a commissar this conversion is still about a third of the price those event commissars go for on eBay.

True, looking at the prices ……. I was at the event and have 5

I have only ever used 1 of them though had ideas but never got around to it, I refuse to sell them on ebay at inflated price that really pisses me of.

Well if you ever want to stick it to the man and sell one at a normal price, I'm here for you.

TiB wrote:Well if you ever want to stick it to the man and sell one at a normal price, I'm here for you.

Will keep that in mind ……. if I did you would have to postage and it would be recorded

lone dirty dog wrote:

TiB wrote:Well if you ever want to stick it to the man and sell one at a normal price, I'm here for you.

Will keep that in mind ……. if I did you would have to postage and it would be recorded

I would be here too!

i just love them, so realistic and so 40k at the same time.. just love them
keep it up dude !

Capitansolstice wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:

TiB wrote:Well if you ever want to stick it to the man and sell one at a normal price, I'm here for you.

Will keep that in mind ……. if I did you would have to postage and it would be recorded

I would be here too!

Noted

lone dirty dog wrote:Great job on the commissar … but have to ask why not just buy the FW event model

a) Cause it costs 60 € or more ... IF I'm able to spot one on ebay. And I was looking for a while.
b) Now mine is original.

lone dirty dog wrote:

TiB wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:why not just buy the FW event model

Even with cutting up a rough rider and a commissar this conversion is still about a third of the price those event commissars go for on eBay.

True, looking at the prices ……. I was at the event and have 5

I have only ever used 1 of them though had ideas but never got around to it, I refuse to sell them on ebay at inflated price that really pisses me of.

You bought 5? Why? So others can't get one?
Usually you'd stock them to wait for high demand/prises. And now you complain about them selling for too much?

I highly doubt anyone will complain about the mounted Commissar, even if it's not to your standards, necessarily.
Just how much do the event models go for nowadays?

Search for "mounted commissar" on eBay.
One for ~ 81 € as "special price"
One for ~ 46 GBP (~ 55 €)
One for ~ 100 US $ (~ 71 €)

doubleT wrote:Search for "mounted commissar" on eBay.
One for ~ 81 € as "special price"
One for ~ 46 GBP (~ 55 €)
One for ~ 100 US $ (~ 71 €)

Holy

doubleT wrote:
You bought 5? Why? So others can't get one?
Usually you'd stock them to wait for high demand/prises. And now you complain about them selling for too much?

No firstly I bought them at the Telford model show about 6 months after they were first released, I bought 5 (one on the day ) and ordered 4 more.

The reason for this was I wanted 2 one in its original state and one for a conversion, the other 2 was for a friend who wanted them for his Kreig army and the third was for my nephew.

My nephew decided he was not interested in the Kreig anymore and changed to elysian instead so I gave him my drop troops with shotguns instead.

The other 2 that was for my friend never gave me the cash, so I ended up keeping them and I only asked for the original price I paid.

So technically I have 3 left, not for reselling at a vast inflated price, just through circumstances.

I in no way was trying to stop any one else from getting them, and at the events show models are restricted to one per person on the day, with the option of ordering more to be sent later.

This means more can be cast to order, which is when you want to ask why are people allowed to order 20 or 50 models on the day.

I hate the fact people sell at large prices that I even offered to pick up models for people on FW open day at the price they sell them for so they don't get ripped of from evil bay.

I do not want to ruin your thread, however I do feel i have a right to explain the situation that you put to me.

I love your work and was only asking if you had seen or came across the FW commissar, in future I will keep my comments to my self.

All is cool

doubleT wrote:All is cool

Here to

Now if you want to buy a FW event only Kreig Commissar Rough Rider, I will sell you one for the extortionate price of 999.99 LOL through Ebay

Beautiful work - I am just starting Krieg, this is inspirational.

Sorry to D-P - I know how you made these (the mud, how you painted them etc - I am still mystified at how you got the mud on the coats to look like mud, not brown paint, If I could do that... - but could you be persuaded to do a DKOK tutorial?

Hey,
the mud on the coats is just done by drybrushing Scorched Brown and Bestial Brown. I put a drop of each next to each other so that they run together in the middle. Now I put the brush somewhere in this. On this side, on the other side, in the middle ... whatever ... I dry the brush on a piece of paper and drybrush the coat carefully. That's all.



Anyway, to give you an update:

- I started painting the lascannon teams!
- the mounted commissar needs some final touches before I can paint him
- I want to get an an airbrush and MIG products before I start with the tank
- maybe (a big maybe) getting two other Malca-Russ before, so I can paint all three together to get an even look
(alternatively I've really been thinking about having the tanks painted by someone who is good with tanks)

Yeah, my job is cool and finally I get used to the routine of leaving the house at 8 in the morning, coming back at 8 in the evening and using the few hours of the night to get some gak done AND find sleep. On the weekends I usually have other things to do so I rarely find time to paint then.

That is one beautiful Imperial Guard army and very inspirational . I commend you on your patients with the barbed wire but that is the best way to get the real affect .

Wunderhübsch!!
Now I want a DKK army!
Beautiful.
I love the mud!

I use to be just a lurker on DakkaDakka, but decided to sign up just so that I could comment here!!

Fantastic paintwork. So detailed and eye catching despite the dull DKoK colours.
I especially like the dirt stains on the uniforms, a small detail that adds realism to the miniatures.

Good work!

Thanks guys!

I had planned to paint today but I was stupid enough to try to teach my dog to run next to me riding the bike. Now my right arm is bandaged and I can move my right hand close enough to my to really paint details.

Lately it feels like some sort of power is trying to prevent me from painting.

doubleT wrote:Thanks guys!

I had planned to paint today but I was stupid enough to try to teach my dog to run next to me riding the bike. Now my right arm is bandaged and I can move my right hand close enough to my to really paint details.

Lately it feels like some sort of power is trying to prevent me from painting.

The Paint Gods are jealous of your work. Best of luck in recovering quickly!

THEY LOOK SO GOOOOOOOOD!!!

I've been watching from the shadows for the entire Blog and your stuff is awesome!

It also makes me want a Malcador

Dr. Temujin wrote:
The Paint Gods are jealous of your work. Best of luck in recovering quickly!

Thanks! My arm was O.K. by tuesday but I didn't have the time to do anything. This weekend I'll try to get some things done/off my desk. Next week I'll search a good airbrush so I can start on the tank!

btw.: I decided I like the version WITH track covers a lot better!



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Ok, this is what I've done yesterday and today so far.



I know: HERESY!!!!

A friend of mine has a Renegades army and he has this Ogryn (?) that is holding a guy from the DKoK and he asked me to paint the guy so it definitely looks like one of mine, instead of him trying to copy my style.

Yes, he'll become a little more dirty later today.

I hope you mean the mini

Nice paint job looks good plus if you meet on the battle field he will have the upper hand from the start

Glad to hear your arms OK now back to work

Oh man I love the Dude whos about to die, post a pic of the finished model when your friend is done!

MrMerlin wrote:Oh man I love the Dude whos about to die

Don't you mean "The Dude who's about to kill a choas ogryn single handedly in an epic display of martial prowess?"

I saw that one guy gave the DKoK a different arm so he had a grenade in his hand, showing the ogryn the finger! Google (image search) "renegade ogryn holding DKoK"!

doubleT wrote:

I saw that one guy gave the DKoK a different arm so he had a grenade in his hand, showing the ogryn the finger! Google (image search) "renegade ogryn holding DKoK"!

Just checked it out subtle but great conversion, paint job was coming on nicely as well.

lone dirty dog wrote:

doubleT wrote:

I saw that one guy gave the DKoK a different arm so he had a grenade in his hand, showing the ogryn the finger! Google (image search) "renegade ogryn holding DKoK"!

Just checked it out subtle but great conversion, paint job was coming on nicely as well.

You think a grenade and the finger is subtle? I'd hate to see your idea of direct!

Rawson wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:

doubleT wrote:

I saw that one guy gave the DKoK a different arm so he had a grenade in his hand, showing the ogryn the finger! Google (image search) "renegade ogryn holding DKoK"!

Just checked it out subtle but great conversion, paint job was coming on nicely as well.

You think a grenade and the finger is subtle? I'd hate to see your idea of direct!

I meant as a look it is not in your face extended finger (see me driving )

Dont piss me of if you want to see direct, hand grenade and finger is a passing gesture

DAMN I HATE ABLOAD.DE TODAY!!! Had to search for my imageshack password ... -_-



Tomorrow evening I'll add details to the soldiers and the guns.
I'll try to glue them to the bases and make the mud. If I can get that done tomorrow I'll be able to finish them on Tuesday evening.

they sure look fething amazing!

Nice work your colour scheme works really well, cant wait to see them posed for display

Really want to see a battle report with these amazing models. There the best Krieg models ever.

Apart from the one battle report I made?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/314300.page

doubleT wrote:Apart from the one battle report I made?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/314300.page

You know what is like DT, people cannot get enough of the Krieg!

Liking the latest updates on thread, I too am currently painting up some Lascannon teams... Great minds and all that..

Very nice work, doubleT - I think I'll be using some of your pictures as reference when I paint my own DKoK.

I'm going for an urban scheme, mind you, rather than a trench warfare scheme, so I'm still figuring out my colour choices.

I might be able to give you some more inspirational pics of other schemes tomorrow!

This is one of the best blogs I have seen. Keep it up

I saw the model you were referring to, and whoever did it had a very fine idea there.
Keep chugging along, and nice work on the strangled Trooper. Will we see the finished product?

I'm not painting the rest of the ogryn, only the DKoK. But I'll see that I get a pic when he finished it.

Today I hope to be able to finish the lascannon teams!


edit:



Choo Choo

That's made me want to purchase several Lascannon packs, and make the best Guard Train ever.

Wait, let's fire up Photoshop ...

ROFL they look great and hilarious at the same time Its like a conga line EPIC!!

That's either a new Display Pic or sig worthy!

lol thats hilarious!

Looks like a bunch of students playing a drinking game, minus the drinking.

doubleT, I've found this example of what I'd consider an urban Death Korps scheme in the Dakka gallery - though I think the greatcoats will be getting more of a mottled blue/black look.

Here are some of the pics I use for inspiration: http://www.abload.de/gallery.php?key=zPqofdOO

I'd like to get a squad and try different schemes, sometime.

I'm not getting really far this weekend. Everytime I start painting or modelling, some friends call and then I have to get up, visit them and drink alcoholic beverages and all ...

doubleT wrote:Here are some of the pics I use for inspiration: http://www.abload.de/gallery.php?key=zPqofdOO

I'd like to get a squad and try different schemes, sometime.

I'm not getting really far this weekend. Everytime I start painting or modelling, some friends call and then I have to get up, visit them and drink alcoholic beverages and all ...

It's a hard life , but I guess some one has to do it .

WOW! REally really love this thred I could wirte pages about how good it is but I won't! Love this stuff man and can't wait for next update!

Subbed.

HAZZER.

Excellent work! The mud effects and weathering on the infantry are great.

Is this with paint or did you use pigments also?

I also really love the conversions on the tanks!

I love the supply train. XD

Thanks, guys.

So, the Lascannon teams are ready. I just had a little problem with one guy, whom I made to hold a battery pack. But I placed them wrong when putting them on the base so I had to do that team again. But I let the base dry right now and I'll post pics tomorrow.

And something else ...

Teaser:

NO not tomorow PICS NOW!!! :p

It's the ten-man toboggan racing team! Wonder what the new thing is going to be...

The chem-tubes and the flesh around them are fantastic. The pale flesh of the mount should hold the necessary muck quite well, too. I don't think I've seen anyone weather a horse before...

Here are the Lascannon teams. I know, they took me long enough.



And now I'll try to finish the commissar tonight.

Love them! This is one sick looking army, and I mean that in the most positive way possible.

_Tim?

They look great the mud effect is spot on really has that ww1 feel to these, like they are sinking slowly into the mud under the wait and wet conditions.

Looking great!

Not quite satisfied with the horse's legs, I guess I'll have to work on that and make it a bit better. For now I think it's ok.

Some WIP shots:




I guess I'll have to do some army shots soon.

Very nice T!

Love the red skin where the stimms are injected! I quite like the mud, not quite sure what, but something looks kinda off about it.

Very nice conversion though!

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Very nice T!

Love the red skin where the stimms are injected! I quite like the mud, not quite sure what, but something looks kinda off about it.

Very nice conversion though!

Thanks. I know why it looks a bit "off". The mud has a different contrast on dark cloths and looks better there than on white fur/skin of the horse. :/
I guess I'll try drybrushing it a bit darker on the lower parts of the legs and reeeeeally lightly drybrush on the top of the legs.

Maybe you could try a dark wash on the horse skin?
I think the lightness of it looks our of place, since the only dirt is on the legs, but that's just a suggestion.

that is really good T

Lovely!

I think what looks off, is that you went too high up on the leg, I honestly don't think a horse would get mud upto it's stomach, except for little flicks of mud but not that thick. That's just my opinion, but I must say the way you painted the horse looks awesome!! Especially where the implants/injections are

Nrljm wrote:I think what looks off, is that you went too high up on the leg, I honestly don't think a horse would get mud upto it's stomach, except for little flicks of mud but not that thick. That's just my opinion, but I must say the way you painted the horse looks awesome!! Especially where the implants/injections are

You know I thought that earlier, maybe lower the mud splatter might help …...

This makes me want to start an DKoK army >__<
Everything here is so well done, I can't wait to see more sir

The Commissar on horseback it great, even better that you made him yourself.

If you're not happy with the mud on the horse my suggestion would be make it thicker, clumpier. At the moment it looks a little thin, compared with the mud on the base.

Great looking army so far doubleT. Really looking forward to seeing your lumbering behemoth.

Awesome! For some reason, this model reminds me of War Horse. If you ever get the chance to see it, either the play or the movie (recommend the play), go for it! If you're not satisfied with the mud, maybe make the covered areas darker? Not sure if that helps, but I think it looks excellent.

Thanks a lot, guys!
I really appreciate all your thumbs up!

PDH wrote:The Commissar on horseback it great, even better that you made him yourself.

If you're not happy with the mud on the horse my suggestion would be make it thicker, clumpier. At the moment it looks a little thin, compared with the mud on the base.

Thanks! I don't know if anyone noticed, I worked on the horse's mask and tried to make it look more like a stylized skull, not like the skull on the limited model. I thought about painting it in bone color like the grenadiers' masks ...

And yeah, I guess I'll try a bit thicker mud.

And that no one noticed makes it an even better conversion. I'm not that up on the horses masks and what you've done looks professional, thought it was stock.

Well would you look at that! Nice work, didnt notice but suits the commie very well.

Hallo. I just found this log yesterday and have been reading it judiciously ever since. Your Korps are amazing.
(You may now consider your barbed wire and mud techniques to be a major part in my own regiment.)

I have only one qualm. TOO FEW HADES. And battle reports....

Anyhow. In regards to the Mounted Commissar, I'll throw in my two cents and state that when a horse gallops through the mud, it tends to get quite a lot of splattering on it's chest, belly, and legs. Not to mention that any horse behind it is going to be covered in the stuff. Even while simply walking, horses kick up plenty of dirt, just think about it in wet conditions, and with a mass of horses used in a cavalry charge. (Think dirt and grime up to the necks of the horses and near everywhere else.)
Only fresh horses would have mud on their legs and nowhere else.

However that's not a problem, as all your Death riders are in very relaxed positions, and look very alert. They haven't just finished a battle, and they aren't in the middle of one, so they must just be getting ready.

What I do think is that the Commissar's steed has too little definition, simply because of the pure white coloring, which makes it look rather.. flat, and without detail on the flanks. Perhaps do as Disjointed Entity said with the dark wash, I think it would help pick out the muscles and give some character to the rest of the body.

With regards, FoxGlove.

I love the Death Korps, and your army is outstanding. Great blog. Thanks for posting.

Want to see more battle reports, from these guys! There so stunning!

Feth me!
This is such a good thread.
Don't stop what you are doing.

I specially love your new mounted commissar.

Updates, must have updates!

Nice model :O

Ok, we're not done yet!

I got some spare parts from eBay, including two banners! YEAH!



I still have no good idea what to do with the upper part of the tank hull, where the turret sits. So I continued with the Death Riders for now:

Sweet supply drop man! Love the lot of bits...So basicly you got a load of spare arms, legs, ammo pouches, and weapons?

Yep. I can't use a lot of it, but it was a nice price and I'd have paid the same amount for even only one of the flags!

If you can't use a lot of it, I'll be more than happy to pay you a fine price for krieg bits. Mostly arms, since the bulk of my rank and file troops are gorgon troopers, and some of their arms got really messed up in cutting them apart.

Haha, sorry, I think I'll keep the arms. What I find useless are the huge amounts of shovels, pouches and backpacks. :(

Sounds good!!!!

I have heaps of those shovels lying around and I only have a couple of sets!

UPDATE:

Ironically, this weekend there was a tournament at one of the thousand horse stables here in our little village. I was woken up by marching music (YEAH!) and this annoying commentator and had to listen to this sh*t the whole weekend. So I fled the house for some hours yesterday and today. Thus, I couldn't finish the Riders, as I had hoped to.

Here's the WIP:

Some really nice models. Loving the muddy darkness feel to them.

Those horses are fantastic. I just can't stop looking at them, even though I'm in Lexington right now and I've seen enough horses to last me for months!

Ha!
The Pale Rider is a Commissar...
Can't tell if he's wearing a skull mask or not but if he is that'd be brilliant...

Thanks, guys.
I hope to drybrush them tonight, add details and maybe I can start the bases today. Then I can finish the bases and the mud tomorrow.
After that I'll have to clean up my room and sort out what to finish next.

Really good work mate, keep it up!!!

Fantastic! Why have I never seen this blog before!?
Subbed!

Great work on those riders, I really like the different colors on the horses. Keep up the great work!

I know everybody has said it before, but it needs to be said again, your DKoK are fething awesome! Definitely subscribing to this thread.

the horses are looking greally good! I love the banner conversion too btw!!!!

Wow! Very nice models!

Thanks for all the kind words!

I overestimated the time this week that I would have to sit down and paint. My bike got stolen so that was a lot of paperwork and also cost me roughly an hour more or so to get to work everyday.

But finally, they are done!!





I realy nead some more of these guys!

Aww that sucks dude, i hope you get it sorted out and get it returned.

Those death riders look awesome, really great work.

Beautifully painted minis as always, mate! How do you paint your metal?

Stolen bike sucks, I hope you get it back! What kind of bike is it?

The metal is
1st: a mix of Boltgun Metal and Chaos Black
2nd: washed with Badab Black
3rd: brushed with Chainmail

Well, I don't really expect to get it back. Insurance will cover a part of it, though. It was a a Giant mountainbike that I just put some new parts on.

Really nice army so far. I love your green colour scheme, and with the added mud, it looks very appealing!
I'm also very fond of your Rough Riders. They looks awesome!
Btw, the base work is rather nice too.

When it comes to rules in the latest Codex, I have seen many DKOK players mount Commanders and Commissars, but I don't think it's legal within the present Codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. So, do you have a ruleset specifically for DKOK, made by Forgeworld, or do you do it for aesthetic reasons?

Forgeworld had DKoK rules, but they're being updated for 6th ed, so we'll have to wait.

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:
When it comes to rules in the latest Codex, I have seen many DKOK players mount Commanders and Commissars, but I don't think it's legal within the present Codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. So, do you have a ruleset specifically for DKOK, made by Forgeworld, or do you do it for aesthetic reasons?

I was planning to play him as the Ridemaster as long as there are no rules for mounted Commissars. But in an older FAQ it was said that you could buy a Commissar for the Death Riders – but you had to buy him a horse for 30pts.

Let's wait what the big update brings.

doubleT wrote:

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:
When it comes to rules in the latest Codex, I have seen many DKOK players mount Commanders and Commissars, but I don't think it's legal within the present Codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. So, do you have a ruleset specifically for DKOK, made by Forgeworld, or do you do it for aesthetic reasons?

I was planning to play him as the Ridemaster as long as there are no rules for mounted Commissars. But in an older FAQ it was said that you could buy a Commissar for the Death Riders – but you had to buy him a horse for 30pts.

Let's wait what the big update brings.

Thanks for the reply mate! Games-Workshop have recently stated that they'll now be doing monthly releases, following the release of 6th Edition. When it comes to Codex updates and models, maybe the new Imperial Guard Codex will see us being able to mount Commanders and Commissars. Who knows?.....

I doubt that GW is touching any of the FW army lists. But since the pdf is not in FW's download section any more, there's chance FW is doing an update.

doubleT wrote:I doubt that GW is touching any of the FW army lists. But since the pdf is not in FW's download section any more, there's chance FW is doing an update.

Oooh, Awesome!...

Here we go, with the laptop broken I finally found sime time to work on the Death Korps.

Heavily WIP, but I hope to get it done till the end of the weekend.

Oh, nice to see you're back, T!
Looking forward to seeing that tank all muddied up!

Update:



I think that was a little bit too much wash. :( And I'm not happy with the drybrush job either. Note: Never paint with bad lighting and/or in a hurry. But I hope it turns out like the Centaur once I did the mud and added some details. :/

edit: harsh contrast also due to hard camera flash

looks good to me! it really has this 'battle-worn' effect!

It doesn't look like too much wash, just looks like it's sat unprotected in the rain a lot. Some mud and rust streaks should be enough to finish it off.

Well slap some mud on it and go from there! Some lettering might look good as well, I find it really helps on those large, imposing surfaces.

Good to see you back..I feel your pain on painting in badly lit areas...bane of this time of year..

Once you've muddied it up it'll be sweet as, I'm sure

To me it just looks dirty, which is a good thing

Now drive it through a muddy trench or two, and it'll look perfect!

Hi
Loving your work so far cat wait to see more love the new armour. possabily fisrt time back on dakka for months!!! please could you check out my blog; http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/810/357188.page

Incredible work so far! Love the tank conversion and overall paint scheme for the army. Agree with everyone else that a little mud, streaking, and rust spots will really make this model pop! Your horses are absolutely beautiful btw, I have a few but am a bit uneasy on how to go about painiting them. Trial and error dont fail me now!!! Keep up the great work it is really inspiring

I didnt know the Malcador came with tread covers? They look a bit different than the standard ones or are those your own creation?

This is fantastic! Do you have a tutorial for the gun straps?

 Spartan089 wrote:
I didnt know the Malcador came with tread covers? They look a bit different than the standard ones or are those your own creation?

Ok, everyone that faints easily when thinking about FW prices should not read any further.

It's a Malcador - with the sides of a Malcador Infernus.
And obviously a Leman Russ turret.

And I plan to do 2 more.

*faints in horror*

anychance of an updae dude????

 HAZZER wrote:
anychance of an updae dude????

You can't rush genius. Calm down and wait.

k fair enouth!

Haha, sorry guys. I wish I could go on in a faster pace. However, one has to earn money, too - and this means I'm relatively busy right now.

I'm not really satisfied yet, but it's usable in a game now:



Some details, dirt, etc. will come later.

I also painted some more engineers - including the mole launcher. But I forgot to take a pic.

Gawd that is still stunning. As is the army as a whole: been too long since I've looked at this blog, it's a genuinely amazing army.

Keep up the great work, and don't worry about rushing yourself, I think many of us can relate to being busy at work.

What tank is that? just an alternate LR?

Holy bejeezus, I am only on the first page but your work is nuts! Loving it man. Making me want to start collecting IG.

loota boy wrote:What tank is that? just an alternate LR?

Yes, it's a bit longer but it counts as a Leman Russ. Height and width are the same and my opponents see no problem with giving them about 1/3 more length to shoot at.

I didn't see the usual LR fit to count as WW1-like behemoth's.

Paint_To_Redemption wrote:Holy bejeezus, I am only on the first page but your work is nuts! Loving it man. Making me want to start collecting IG.

Haha, well, the first page held a lot of pics - not just from the beginning. But yeah, still a lot more came after this. Have fun, there's a battle log inside somewhere that people seemed to love.

And another one will come soon, I hope. And it'll be a Vraks battle.

This is still one of my favorite guard armies, I can't wait to see more muddy mini Kriegers

The cupola is finally movable. And I added some dirt and details.



2000 px version: http://www.abload.de/img/img_7472_b4pjfq.jpg

beautiful banners. I'm very impressed.

lookin good so far!

That tank is looking excellent as always doubleT.

Questions:

Now that you see the behemoth: Does it count as a Leman Russ in your eyes?

What next? the GBP is costing less (due to the heavy Euro and the British devaluating their money) so I'm thinking about ordering some stuff.

- If they would count as LR: Two more?
- Finally some big artillery?
- Second Engineer-Team with a second drill?
- More infantry with a Gorgon to bring them to the front?

Big artillery, lots and lots and lots of big artillery.

You're a siege regiment, you don't need no stinkin' tanks
The drill was nerfed to hell and back
Gorgon is apoc

give us da big ons!!!!!!!

You're right. I guess it'll be artillery in general. I think I'll make both the Thudd Gun and Heavy Mortar batteries complete and order the first Medusa and Earthshaker guns.

btw., I just noticed:

1950 points fully painted and ready to play!

Next thing to paint is a Thudd Gun or Heavy Mortar => 2000 pts

Definitely counts as a LR in my opinion. I'd say get more siege stuff, but my love of even numbers and things in pairs screams for an additional tank.

 doubleT wrote:
Now that you see the behemoth: Does it count as a Leman Russ in your eyes?

I would have no problem counting that as a LR. Making something bigger is usually a disadvantage...

Also, add my vote for artillery! Whoo hoo!

Cheers,
Rawson

Ah I ment to ask, Thudd Guns or Heavy Mortar? Especially considering the Thudd Gun doesn't have the slow firing rule anymore.

Why not both? I was planning to build a full 4 gun Thudd gun battery AND a full 4 gun Heavy Mortar battery. If I field both full would be another question, though.

And what do you mean, there's now slow rate of fire rule anymore? Where did you read that?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/product/pdf/i/IA1_2ndEdFAQ_Errata.pdf FAQ #9

The book has the latest rules for everything, including the Krieg things, I wonder if it supercedes this http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/h/Heavy_Artillery.pdf

Interesting, thanks. So the Heavy Mortar isn't allowed to re-roll the scatter dice anymore (FAQ #9). :(

Are there any more updates in the IA 1 2nd Ed that I should know about?

Ah gak, did not notice that :(

The Hades has been emasculated, or so I heard

Ok, so the Hades is now Elite (competing with Grenadiers, Heavy Mortars and Thudd Guns)? :(

Yeah, sure, take everything fun away just because some losers cry "broken" ...

Anway, the final pics of the MalcaRuss:

Interesting name for the tank

I missed that from the first pics.

Hades hasn't moved to elite as far as I know.

Now you mentionned Grenadiers, how do you use them? I had very little success with them except when they're on the defensive (killed a Broodlord and his Genestealers as well as a squad of Zerkers that were both going for the Relic)

Lovin the metallica tank.Rock on.

On the name: I added the decal from the Chimera decal set.
It means "Iron Grave" and in the German Panzerlied there's a verse:

"When we are hit by the deadly bullet [..] our tank becomes our iron grave."
("Trifft uns die Todeskugel [..] dann wird unser Panzer ein ehernes Grab.")

I think that fits quiet right into the atmosphere of the Death Korps, always expecting death.

Bob, do you have the book? I heard that Engineers with Hades were Elite know.
As for the Grenadiers, I wasn't really lucky with them, yet. But what I wanted to try was using a Centaur with 5 Grenadiers, two of them with flamers and two with a heavy flamer. I'd call it "The Torch".

Something like that, but I would've liked to fit a 6th Grenadier and give him a demo charge.

No book, just stuff I've read.

looking good! so is that a count as russ?

Remember my law department?



Some French guy underestimated my ability to google my images to see where they were posted. (Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people posting my photos on the internet - just direct them to one of my threads.) From what I could see/translate he was posting as if this was his army ("mon Death korps").

Just to make sure everyone that gets redirected here knows that I'm the original:



Je suis l'original!

Send the law enforcement scribes round doubleT, there can be only one.

I do hate it when people claim to have painted miniatures when in fact they've just stolen images from the net, I've seen this happen to quite a few excellent painters.

I will never understand why people do that...

Btw nice tank you've got there.^^
What technique did you use to paint those fine color hues?

Thx.
What do you mean? The brown on the tank? That's just drybrushed.

Two last pics to sort this out. I don't want to take this any further.

 kenshin620 wrote:
Holy cow arent you that Death Korps guy from /tg/? You were asking about green or steel helmets. something like that. Big fan of your works.!

i thought everyone on /tg/ hated 40k....

yea the brown/darkgreen
I assumes it's a mixture of drybrushing and ink then?

 Tyranidcrusher wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:
Holy cow arent you that Death Korps guy from /tg/? You were asking about green or steel helmets. something like that. Big fan of your works.!

i thought everyone on /tg/ hated 40k....

They secretly do, though. I think they just hate new people who like 40K because they tend to be annoying. Anyways...

That tank is beautiful! I love it, love it, love it!

i'd take it as a complemt... Ur works so good that people wanna take it for themselfs...

Hazz is right, it is quite a compliment when someone tries to call your work their own, can be quite annoying though!

agreed

Dude, you can't agree with yourself!

I mean he still hasent found my blog with his work on yet....Oppss, this is his blog right?!?!

 HAZZER wrote:
I mean he still hasent found my blog with his work on yet....Oppss, this is his blog right?!?!

shhh i am just here to see the awesome, dont let him know we all use his work!

doubleT wrote:Thx.
What do you mean? The brown on the tank? That's just drybrushed.

Two last pics to sort this out. I don't want to take this any further.

doubleT wrote:Thx.
What do you mean? The brown on the tank? That's just drybrushed.

Two last pics to sort this out. I don't want to take this any further.

amazingly good guard there mate. passport for proof made me lol, mad that you even have to prove they are yours because someones nicked the pictures. what a t**t he must be

It's the photo that I posted on the other board when it seemed that some people didn't even believe me.

HAZZER wrote:I mean he still hasent found my blog with his work on yet....Oppss, this is his blog right?!?!

cormadepanda wrote: shhh i am just here to see the awesome, dont let him know we all use his work!

He'll come and visit you in your sleep!

So, I got new paint and basecoat spray. But I also worked on some other DKoK related project:





Edit:
Ok, so some guy called it a disco-trench ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkSPUDpe0U8

Ahhhhhh, no not them again please!!!!!!!!!!

Nice trench.
Time to party hard!^^

Will you rapid prototype the 3d model or something?

That's the plan. I've been hunting the FW trenches for so long now.

Got some bitz from eBay:





Some nice parts! Some bad casts and some are broken but nothing that can't be fixed.

Nice bits collection
Seems like most of them could make nice details for the trench^^

The only problem with fw is the kits are twice the price and you often only get all that you need no more and somtimes less or duplates of the wrong componate!!!!

OOOH! Me like!!!

I'm pretty sure a commissar will execute the tank commander for not washing that mud off!

Hahaha

that's unfair, his tank doesn't look any better XD

 IPS wrote:
that's unfair, his tank doesn't look any better XD

Who told you life was fair?

Right, it's "Do as I say, don't do as I do."

I never get sick of looking through this thread. The paint jobs are excellent and the weathering is exceptional. Great stuff as always!

HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!

krieg + mud = victory
I love ur use of mud man, keep it up.

Hey guys,

I'M NOT DONE YET!!

I do appologize that I didn't post anything the last few month. I got a new job, so less time. And I got a new car, so less money ... (I think I need to paint it Catachan Green ...)

But today I saw that FW has the new DKoK Update ready. Now I'm studying the new Army List. I guess I won't get much done during summer (too hot to paint, specially here under the roof). But I'm feeling the motivation coming back, now that there is an updated Army List.

And also, you're always a great source for motivation! Thanks

Hi i'm a huge fan and im still waiting for my death korps to arrive in the post (i accidentally ordered recasts from russia so will see what they are like when I get them). This may sound like a silly question but where did you get your fine sand from? If you have a link? I'd be extremely grateful

I know this was Necro'd the other day, but I have to say after the first time saying this I had to comment. Hopefully the bump will encourage the OP to come back.

That Malcador/Russ combination is the coolest looking tank ever, I'm totally tempted to try it but would mess it up horribly!

Exceptional work throughout this entire thread.

This thread is not dead, yet. I'm still holding up the flag.





More to come soon!

Cool wounded banner waver. That man's got moxy! And probably sepsis.

don't forget tetanus. But he'll get a big, fat medal if he's ever found, that's for sure.

Kriegsmen don't get medals, or well, they don't like getting them.

Such is the way...