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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 14:49:56


Post by: doubleT


Time for some Krieg

Since I've been lurking the Forum - and the Gallery - for quite some time now, I thought I might aswell register and share my Death Korps with you, now that I've finished the first batch.

Klick any of the pic to get to a bigger version in the gallery. Zoom in, the pics are big and the preview is sometimes a bit blurry.

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Let's begin with the HQ:


And the commanding officer:


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Here he is in front of the current army:


About 600 points. HQ with 2 Platoons with 2 Squads each. More to follow.




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Here's the latest squad I finished:


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And here are some details:

Selfmade barbed wire, a.k.a. "Nurgle's Rope":


Selfmade gun strap (Thinking about adding this to every Korpsmen):


Selfmade antennas:


Mud, mud and mud:


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Bayonet-Charge!


Or more like exercise and drill ...


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So, now I'm waiting for the next order to arrive. Meanwhile I'm made several meters of barbed wire and paint some details that I missed / fix some mistakes I spotted.



What remains to do?

Haven't yet decided what to paint on the coat of arms on the standards. At first I went with the "C" of the Command Squads. But I may fill these (the shoulder pads) and make my own symbol.



So, that's it for now. Any questions?

Thanks for watching and thanks for voting in the gallery - if you like them.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 15:08:47


Post by: Tauzor


Fantstic ! What else Can I say
Yum yum YUM times x100 !


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 15:15:23


Post by: Commander Cain


Fantastic models! How did you make the wire? The white on the commander really makes him stand out in a crowd.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 15:19:33


Post by: Leigen_Zero


Very VERY nice sir!

Could you please tell me how you did that fantastic mud basing, as in the textures and paint scheme you used?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 15:19:41


Post by: Regnak


Very nice! nice choice of colours and I'm one of the Krieg fans who think the more mud the better!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 16:11:09


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, guys.

Yeah, love the mud. At first it was a little hard to cover them in mud because they look good without the mud, too. And I was worried to overdo it. But I will try to do one or two squads with more mud. Engineers and Grenadiers are really going to get dirty!

The mud doesn't cover bad painting.


The last 5 guys got a little more mud:


Commander Cain wrote:How did you make the wire?


It's basically like this. But I'll try to make a tutorial and put it on the tutorial-board.

Leigen_Zero wrote:Could you please tell me how you did that fantastic mud basing, as in the textures and paint scheme you used?


Mud receipt:

- Wood glue, a few drops of water, fine sand, and ... drumroll ... saw dust.
- mix it and cover the base with it
- wait fot the mud to dry, then paint it Bestial Brown. At this stage it'll look really ugly.
- Wash with Devlan Mud, maybe some Badab Black in deeper areas.
- The Edge of the base is painted Scorched Brown and washed with Badab Black



Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 16:19:55


Post by: BrookM


Good lord this is good stuff! Keep at it my good man!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 16:28:33


Post by: Empchild


I love the fact that you are really bringing out the dirty feel in trench warfare with these guys. Minor critiques though: Try doing some Badab Black washes thinned down as it will add much more depth to the models. Atm they look as if they were dry brushed and even if they were this will give a much better feel and take out the monotone style to them. Also try doing a lighter color to the eyes as this will set it apart nicely and allow them to stand out more.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 16:43:21


Post by: PDH


Really like the dark green colour scheme and mud. I agree with Commander Cain your HQ looks great with the white detailing making him pop. Looking forward to seeing the Engineers (some of my fav models - the revolver barrels on the shotguns genius) and Grenadiers.

Peter


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 16:56:20


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Holy sh!t! They look sweet.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 20:31:46


Post by: doubleT


Commander Cain wrote:How did you make the wire?


I wrote a tutorial: Nurgle's Rope - How to make realistic barbed wire


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 20:55:15


Post by: joker8911


Very good are you German or Brit army?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 21:02:58


Post by: Vet Sgt Ezekiel


Nice stuff, keep it up. I'll be watching with interest to see how you get on.

Any plans for vehicles?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 21:12:50


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Love the gritty look and the guy stepping over the barbed wire.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/30 21:26:19


Post by: Shadowbrand


Beautiful models and paint jobs, keep up the good work.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 00:11:54


Post by: bigmek35


these are a work of beauty!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 00:15:24


Post by: Sanchez01


I am quite jealous


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 00:16:25


Post by: kenshin620


Holy cow arent you that Death Korps guy from /tg/? You were asking about green or steel helmets. something like that. Big fan of your works.!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 00:34:01


Post by: Munch Munch!


God, dude, I hate your skills so much. These are so great!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 00:36:59


Post by: WhiteWolf01


WOW! These are the best DKOK infantry I have ever seen and I have seen a lot on this forum. Keep it up! I'd love to see you do some vehicles the same as well.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 01:05:57


Post by: kennyalhavg


whoa, one of the best DKOK ive seen


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 01:43:41


Post by: doubleT


Hi guys, thanks a lot.

This is good motivation!
Empchild wrote:I love the fact that you are really bringing out the dirty feel in trench warfare with these guys. Minor critiques though: Try doing some Badab Black washes thinned down as it will add much more depth to the models. Atm they look as if they were dry brushed and even if they were this will give a much better feel and take out the monotone style to them. Also try doing a lighter color to the eyes as this will set it apart nicely and allow them to stand out more.

Well, the green is Catachan Green, washed with Badab Black, lightly brushed with Camo Green.
The leather is Bestial Brown, washed with Badab Black, basically everything is washed Badab Black.
Only the mud on the ground is washed Devlan Mud. The mud on the coat is not washed.

But I'll think about your suggestions and how I can try this. Thx


PDH wrote:Really like the dark green colour scheme and mud. I agree with Commander Cain your HQ looks great with the white detailing making him pop. Looking forward to seeing the Engineers (some of my fav models - the revolver barrels on the shotguns genius) and Grenadiers.

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to paint these, as I've an awesome idea for a display for the Engineers with their Hades Breaching Drill in a tunnel. Don't ask, I won't tell you anymore about this idea. Wait for it.

joker8911 wrote:Very good are you German or Brit army?

German army, but not active anymore. Still reserve.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
Any plans for vehicles?

Except for the Centaurs and the Hades, not in the near future. BUT ... yeah, I def. need one, two or three Macharius!
And I'm working on a Russ pattern based on a Chimera with Russ turret and Macharius-like track cover and boxes behind the tracks.
It's quite a challenge, though. And it's not a primary goal since I'm looking for a Siege Army with lots and lots of infantry - and of course heavy artillery!
So when I have enough of the infantry, artillery is next, then tanks.

Oh ... and I need a Gorgon ...

And while we are daydreaming ... I see Titans in the distand future.

kenshin620 wrote:Holy cow arent you that Death Korps guy from /tg/? You were asking about green or steel helmets. something like that. Big fan of your works.!

hm, maybe ... sometimes ... when I had a (some) nice, cool beer(s) ... the other side of me finds the way to a certain imageboard we shall not mention ...
btw. I fear some of these threads have been archived and one could find them with a google search for "nurgle's rope" ...

thx guys

Oh, and thx to everyone who votes for my pics in the galery!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 02:52:38


Post by: Aretak


Your work is inspirational. I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 02:57:33


Post by: kaiservonhugal


yummmy


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 03:18:27


Post by: LeBaron


Wow, some great work you're doing here. I've used that wire technique before, don't remember where I saw it though, but still it's just amazing work.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 04:15:27


Post by: kenshin620


doubleT wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:Holy cow arent you that Death Korps guy from /tg/? You were asking about green or steel helmets. something like that. Big fan of your works.!

hm, maybe ... sometimes ... when I had a (some) nice, cool beer(s) ... the other side of me finds the way to a certain imageboard we shall not mention ...
btw. I fear some of these threads have been archived and one could find them with a google search for "nurgle's rope" ...

thx guys


Yay I knew it


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 04:27:44


Post by: Pvt. Jet


Sweet Jesus Christwagons. You do some FANTASTIC work with the Death Korps... I think you've singlehandedly shown me why people think they are the most badass IG regiment and inspired me to someday match your painting skill.

If your gaming skills are half of your painting skills I see tournament victories in your future.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 05:35:08


Post by: schank23


This is by far the best ever looking IG army I've seen. And your Command Squad is freaking beautiful. Can't wait to see what you do next.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 06:39:59


Post by: skbak


these guys are absolutely breathtaking! I love it


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 06:50:16


Post by: LavuranGuard


Museum quality finish, I could almost expect to see these in a glass case portraying the battle of the Somme or similar - excellent stuff!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 07:01:18


Post by: scipunk


Well done on the mud effects and an ace paint job on your DK.

Keep it up


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 07:23:30


Post by: HadoukenAvenger


Dakka is a better place now that you're here,
those are some of the best presented models I've ever seen.

Keep on truckin',
HadoukenAvenger


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 08:02:43


Post by: Wolfed


These are niiice. The mud really is excellent. At first I thought the models were a bit monochromaticly painted with just the green, but it really does work. Oh, and the DKoK lasguns are just gorgeous. I allways loved the model of those, and you've really brought them out to life. So, yes, really looking forward to your Engineers aswell

You've also done great with the DKoK commander, and I do agree in general with the others that the white really make him stand out in an aristocratic way, but have you concidered trying to mat it down just a bit? The rest of the clothing and models look so gritty, but the white looks almost outta place with it's crispness. Have you thought about greying it down just a tad or adding.... don't know, a mudstain here or there? Sure, he's a Prussian-ish general, so the dirt would prolly be intimidated to stay away from him unlike his grunts, but still?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 20:47:18


Post by: doubleT


First of all, thank you for the comments

I'll do what I can to give you more eyecandy in the upcomming weeks and month (as it's quite a long time project).

Pvt. Jet wrote:If your gaming skills are half of your painting skills I see tournament victories in your future.


Well, to be honest, it's a long time since I've played a tabletop game and even than it was Fantasy. The DKoK are my first take at 40k and I said that I'd only play with painted miniatures.

But do not fear! Tomorrow the 1st company of the glorious 106th Infantrybattalion, as a part of the 18th Siege Regiment in the XIV. Expeditionary Korps "Morituri", has to stand up against it's first opponent, a horde of Orks. (Anyone interessted in the background story? I could post it.)
A friend helps me to get deeper into the rules so I get some routine. As I said, they are worth about 630 points.

Wolfed wrote:Oh, and the DKoK lasguns are just gorgeous. I allways loved the model of those, and you've really brought them out to life.

I tried to go for the k98 look. Wood and dark metal. But I fear the metal is to bright on most parts. Don't know how I should paint the Grenadiers weapons and the heavy weapons, though.

Wolfed wrote:You've also done great with the DKoK commander, and I do agree in general with the others that the white really make him stand out in an aristocratic way, but have you concidered trying to mat it down just a bit? The rest of the clothing and models look so gritty, but the white looks almost outta place with it's crispness. Have you thought about greying it down just a tad or adding.... don't know, a mudstain here or there? Sure, he's a Prussian-ish general, so the dirt would prolly be intimidated to stay away from him unlike his grunts, but still?


The problem with the white is, that because of the dark surrounding overal and thus the longer exposure time, the white allways shines extremely bright. If you look closely, in the first picture, the one with the white background, you can see that it's rather a bright grey than just white. And in my oppinion he shouldn't get more dirty than he is. Hey, he even stands on some rock so he doesn't get too dirty!

Here's an extreme macro-photography of him. I hate macro-photography on models because they show really EVERY mistake. This photo gives you more than you could see with your eyes!!



oops, he's missing some silver on his arm :(


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 21:23:09


Post by: Commander Cain


I probably said this before, but the commander stands out a lot with that white lining on his coat. Great job!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 23:00:44


Post by: Regnak


Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/08/31 23:24:03


Post by: Pennywise


These guys are really bad arse, good job dude. I like the mud and the wire.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/03 18:04:03


Post by: doubleT


thank you all

Regnak wrote:Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!

I know. His cast was very bad and I had to work on him quite a bit.

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Sooo ... the Death Korp had it's first mission. It was my first game in 40k, too, so it was mostly to get to learn the rules and get a feeling for what the Korps and see what they are able to do.

We played two games, 600 points each. My opponent had Orkz and fielded even more miniates (I had 56 he had ~ 65, I think).
He had no dice so he had to use mine - I'll never do that again, they were totally useless for me. Nothing worked - except the scatter dice. Probably because the Ork didn't touch it. Direct hits: 7 out of 10 rolls! WHOOT? I love template weapons!


They didn't even make it into the difficult terrain.

So the Ork had a mob of 33 in the beginning, 25 alive of which 20 were able to attack, with two hand weapons, hoooooly sh1t, 80 dice ...


The colonel is surrounded. He actually could do some damage.


The Sergeant is the Last Man Standing.

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I had fun (not as much as I would have had had I won ...) and learned a lot.

Now because of a delay with the order due to a friend not being able to tell me what he wants to order, I have the chance to rethink what I order.

My list till now was:
- some infantry, some HW teams, grenadiers, engineers

But now I think about this:
- more infantry, more heavy weapon teams (combined squads ...)

Or
- some infantry, 3 heavy mortars, 3 thudd guns (needs more template weapons!)

I'd like to stay at around 300 GBP. What would you suggest?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/03 19:22:55


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Definately some heavy weapons if your going to field them as foot sloggers. And maybe some artilley tank or leman russ imo.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/03 19:25:39


Post by: Cadet_Commissar_Ludd


Amazing models need an amazing paintjob, you my friend have done them justice.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/03 20:03:36


Post by: Attomsk


Best IG army I have seen as well.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 02:23:27


Post by: Munch Munch!


doubleT wrote:thank you all

Regnak wrote:Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!

I know. His cast was very bad and I had to work on him quite a bit.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--


Sooo ... the Death Korp had it's first mission. It was my first game in 40k, too, so it was mostly to get to learn the rules and get a feeling for what the Korps and see what they are able to do.

We played two games, 600 points each. My opponent had Orkz and fielded even more miniates (I had 56 he had ~ 65, I think).
He had no dice so he had to use mine - I'll never do that again, they were totally useless for me. Nothing worked - except the scatter dice. Probably because the Ork didn't touch it. Direct hits: 7 out of 10 rolls! WHOOT? I love template weapons!


They didn't even make it into the difficult terrain.

So the Ork had a mob of 33 in the beginning, 25 alive of which 20 were able to attack, with two hand weapons, hoooooly sh1t, 80 dice ...


The colonel is surrounded. He actually could do some damage.


The Sergeant is the Last Man Standing.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--


I had fun (not as much as I would have had had I won ...) and learned a lot.

Now because of a delay with the order due to a friend not being able to tell me what he wants to order, I have the chance to rethink what I order.

My list till now was:
- some infantry, some HW teams, grenadiers, engineers

But now I think about this:
- more infantry, more heavy weapon teams (combined squads ...)

Or
- some infantry, 3 heavy mortars, 3 thudd guns (needs more template weapons!)

I'd like to stay at around 300 GBP. What would you suggest?

Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 03:20:51


Post by: murdog


Awesome.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 03:32:21


Post by: Jihadnik


DoubleT, you have ruined my life with those troops, I will never be able to paint that well, and this will haunt me forever! Damn your hide!

Seriously though, however you got the skill to paint that, I want it...Well done!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 03:47:53


Post by: Terminus


Gorgeous! Great work!

What kind of blend did you use for the brown wash?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 03:52:48


Post by: Brother SRM


Those are some damn fine looking minis you got there! The only thing that bothers me is that the helmet aquilas aren't marked out in any way. Even just a lighter metal color would be cool. Then again, I'm a traditionalist


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 04:48:19


Post by: kenshin620


GET SOME LASCANNONS

I assume you're using the Downloadable rules? its weird that DK Lascannon Squads are cheaper than normal lascannons squads!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 09:05:03


Post by: doubleT


Thx

Lascannons against hordes?

As for the bolters, yeah, makes sense. But what about the twin-linked stubber? Twin-linked means I can re-roll missed dice, right?

Munch Munch! wrote:
Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.


Wouldn't agree with that 100%. While they have only one attack due to the gun, they DO have WS4, as long as I play them with the Death Korps Army List. That's a 4+ on Orkz. I had plenty of hits! But they only wound at 5+ with lasgun or in cqc. So, no difference. But when I attack I get +1 dice (and steal this dice from him).
But yeah, S3 is bothering me against orks.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 10:57:05


Post by: Scarper


Probably the best kreig I've ever seen. Amazing work!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 13:31:27


Post by: kenshin620


doubleT wrote:Thx

Lascannons against hordes?

As for the bolters, yeah, makes sense. But what about the twin-linked stubber? Twin-linked means I can re-roll missed dice, right?

Munch Munch! wrote:
Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.


Wouldn't agree with that 100%. While they have only one attack due to the gun, they DO have WS4, as long as I play them with the Death Korps Army List. That's a 4+ on Orkz. I had plenty of hits! But they only wound at 5+ with lasgun or in cqc. So, no difference. But when I attack I get +1 dice (and steal this dice from him).
But yeah, S3 is bothering me against orks.


Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 13:44:08


Post by: Kemimutt


I had to register to give you some advice (on gaming, I have nothing to teach you on painting).

First of, Orcs are not a favourite opponent for guards so you might have choosen the wrong opponent to start your career against!

If you plan on playing against hords/orks you should definately get the mortars and thudguns-option. However, to keep it fair you might hold back a little and don't get 3 of each at once or that ork player might not want to play against you again as your guns will make mashed mushrooms out of his orks!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 14:49:14


Post by: doubleT


thx Kemimutt,
as a former player of dwarfes I know that I have to control the urge to just bombe the gak out of my opponent. I understand what you are saying and as I said, I want infantry and I want them to engage, too. I don't want to just sit back and shoot (allthough that's fun sometimes, too). On the other hand, the Ork player wouldn't have much problems against a harder army of mine. He didn't give me any bonus for this being my first game. He helped me with the rules and such, but his army was pretty hard and maxed out for 600 pts.

That Orkz aren't the best opponent to start with was relatively clear to me, but atm I have not very much options. As I just started with 40k, I'm looking for people to play against. Some friends from Fantasy started 40k aswell, but they are not ready to field an army, yet. (We only field painted and based armies.)

Money would also be an argument against buying both batteries at once, since I want infantry, too.
But I cannot decide between heavy mortarts (5", re-roll scatter dice) and thudd guns (4x3", -1 on pinning test). One each? two each?

kenshin620 wrote:
Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)


Now look, this was an advice I was looking for.
I think I never would have thought of that. There's some potential with a combined squad of, let's say 30 men with vox, commissar and maybe the Quartermaster behind them.
3 attack dice when I attack, Feel no Pain + execution re-roll, stubborn Ld 10.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 14:54:36


Post by: kenshin620


doubleT wrote:thx Kemimutt,
as a former player of dwarfes I know that I have to control the urge to just bombe the gak out of my opponent. I understand what you are saying and as I said, I want infantry and I want them to engage, too. I don't want to just sit back and shoot (allthough that's fun sometimes, too). On the other hand, the Ork player wouldn't have much problems against a harder army of mine. He didn't give me any bonus for this being my first game. He helped me with the rules and such, but his army was pretty hard and maxed out for 600 pts.

That Orkz aren't the best opponent to start with was relatively clear to me, but atm I have not very much options. As I just started with 40k, I'm looking for people to play against. Some friends from Fantasy started 40k aswell, but they are not ready to field an army, yet. (We only field painted and based armies.)

Money would also be an argument against buying both batteries at once, since I want infantry, too.
But I cannot decide between heavy mortarts (5", re-roll scatter dice) and thudd guns (4x3", -1 on pinning test). One each? two each?

kenshin620 wrote:
Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)


Now look, this was an advice I was looking for.
I think I never would have thought of that. There's some potential with a combined squad of, let's say 30 men with vox, commissar and maybe the Quartermaster behind them.
3 attack dice when I attack, Feel no Pain + execution re-roll, stubborn Ld 10.


Yea the FNP is cool. Problem is though they can get picked out quickly so be sure to shove them in between men/vehicles.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 15:06:20


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


Wow simply stunning great work!

and i just started guard to and i play against my friends ork hoard and just cant figure it out. I dont do pretty good in shooting but 5 nobs can kill 20 guardsmen and lose 1... im at loss on how to handle them i have developed kamikaze tactic with a vet squad with as many flamers/demo charge i can get and put them in a chimera with 2 heavy flamers and drive it at the biggest mush of green i can find. and that works well. Just an idea.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 15:14:28


Post by: grayspark


Your models are simply the best looking models I've seen...

Why?

Because they look so real...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/04 16:21:17


Post by: Necroagogo


Your figures are jawdroppingly good ... I think you got the balance of mud just about right.

Just off to the Gallery to cast my vote!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/06 19:53:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hello double t,
yeah, you made it again cristal clear that when you want to build a guard army there is only on option for coolness: DKOK!

on a side note: how did you manage the gunstraps? i try to create some for some unique poses for my sm. the hanging ones from some sprues just dont cut it for me any more. i want my bolters also hanging from shoulders or let them mariens stand to attention...

thanks in advance^^


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/09 00:25:33


Post by: doubleT


thx, guys

@IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES: I want to play them with the DKoK rules from FW. Unfortunately, the Siege Regiment Army List doesn't allow them to use Chimeras. I don't like them that much anyway and I want a footslogger army.

Necroagogo wrote:Your figures are jawdroppingly good ... I think you got the balance of mud just about right.
Just off to the Gallery to cast my vote!

Thank you. Special thanks to all those who vote.

Viktor von Domm wrote:how did you manage the gunstraps? i try to create some for some unique poses for my sm. the hanging ones from some sprues just dont cut it for me any more. i want my bolters also hanging from shoulders or let them mariens stand to attention...


Let's see ...

Meanwhile I made another gun strap for the other guy that is preparing to throw a granade.

And then I went crazy:
When these two guys have gun straps, why don't the others have them??






And now I'm sitting here with 40+ guys waiting for gun straps.

When compared to the gun straps of the standard bearer, I noticed two minor mistakes that I'll try to take care of. But these are just things to make them look more like the FW straps ...

They are just made from ~ 1mm wide stripes of a little thicker paper. It's relatively easy to do.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/09 00:32:19


Post by: Darth Bob


You see, only way I can see anyone justifying spending the money on a FW Krieg army would be if they could paint them this well.

Great job, mate.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/09 08:14:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


for the gunstrapes you only used paper?? cool. was it just the normal 80g paper as for printing? should have some floating in the house to try^^.

and yeah, go for the 40+ soldiers with gunstrapes, wouldnt make sensé otherwise... i mean i can imagine having granades or kevlarvests as an optional upgrade when the get kitted but gunstrpes i think are just so common...

li truly ike your work


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/09 21:13:41


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


I still do not understand how you do it with such simple techniques. The mud really is excellent, as is everything else!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/13 03:09:23


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, guys.

@ Viktor: I think it's 120g paper.
@ Tim: As I said, I have this magic cupboard.

Infantry Squad Advancing, Infantry Squad Firing, Autocannon Squad, Heavy Bolter Team, Grenadier Squad, Grenadier Centaur, Engineer Squad, Hades, Quartermaster, Commissar 1, Commissar 2, Thudd Gun, Thunn Gun Crew, Heavy Mortar, Heavy Mortar Crew, Leman Russ Ryza Pattern Vanquisher Turret, Tank Commander and Death Rider.

What do these have in common?

Yesss After some problems (waiting for a friend to decide what to order) these are on their way to me and then I'll place them in the magic cupboard, too.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/13 03:48:20


Post by: kenshin620


Excellent update


Cant wait for more


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/13 04:03:04


Post by: LeBaron


I can't wait to see them out there on the field!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/13 12:48:43


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Awesome!!

When you get the Hades, would it be at all possible for you to take a shot of the drill next to the front of a rhino? It would be such a great help!

Keep up the good work!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/16 03:10:50


Post by: Munch Munch!


How do you do your mud?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/16 17:35:16


Post by: Regnak


Munch Munch! wrote:How do you do your mud?


He posted the details on Page 1:

Mud receipt:

- Wood glue, a few drops of water, fine sand, and ... drumroll ... saw dust.
- mix it and cover the base with it
- wait fot the mud to dry, then paint it Bestial Brown. At this stage it'll look really ugly.
- Wash with Devlan Mud, maybe some Badab Black in deeper areas.
- The Edge of the base is painted Scorched Brown and washed with Badab Black


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/16 18:36:21


Post by: doubleT


@ Munch: Yeah, as Regnak said. Thx, Regnak.

@ Vitruvian: If I ever get the chance to put it next to a Rhino, ... yeah.
But maybe I can put it next to a Marine, I have some of those.

so ... still waiting for my order to arrive.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/16 19:06:54


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


yeah thatd be cool as well cheers!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/16 23:22:30


Post by: Regnak


doubleT wrote:@ Munch: Yeah, as Regnak said. Thx, Regnak.

@ Vitruvian: If I ever get the chance to put it next to a Rhino, ... yeah.
But maybe I can put it next to a Marine, I have some of those.

so ... still waiting for my order to arrive.


No worries Was thinking the other day... imagine if all the european Death Korps owners got together for a huge battle teaming up against all comers.. That would be something amazing... maybe in the future if there was a big event in europe


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/17 01:06:50


Post by: LeBaron


How large are the batches of mud you make?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/17 12:38:05


Post by: Jupiter


Great work. Your army has a very realistic feel. Keep up the great work


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/17 12:50:21


Post by: Bossasaurus


Seriously cool army, makes me want to abandon my space wolves lol.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/22 23:40:34


Post by: doubleT


LeBaron wrote:How large are the batches of mud you make?


Depends on how much I need.

Sooooo ...

Uh, what is this? I got a nice "little" package from UPS:


It's from Games Workshop? More like ForgeWorld:


"Reduced Scale Models"


Let's see what's inside:


Elysian Drop Troop Squad and a Tauros!! (For a friend.)

And for me? Lots of Death Korps:

2 Squads (1 Firing, 1 Advancing)
1 Autocannon Squad (3 Teams)
1 Heavy Bolter Team (for the HQ)
1 Grenadier Squad
1 Centaur - Grenadier Version
1 Engineer Squad
1 Hades
1 Quartermaster
2 Commissars
1 Heavy Mortar + Crew
1 Quad Launcher + Crew
1 Tank Commander
1 Vanquisher Turrer (Ryza Pattern)

YEAH!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 01:23:56


Post by: neil101


Absolutely fanstastic!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 02:18:57


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


Wow im excited too see what your going to do with them! I cringe at the amount of money spent haha but its all worth it!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 03:20:12


Post by: doubleT


Just a teaser. I had to testfit the turret.





I was afraid the turret may look too big ... Now I think it could be bigger.

I'll have to build the boxes behind the tracks asap. If it looks ****, I'll use Leman Russes - because I found out what I didn't like about the Russ look: The standard hull.
Fortunately, ForgeWorld has the Mars Alpha Pattern hull, which just looks 100 times better. But that's just for when the MiniMacharius turns out really bad. (Or if I don't want to build more of this ... )


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 03:27:08


Post by: kenshin620


ACES DUDE!

looks like a cool 40k version of the VK4502 P


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 08:20:22


Post by: CrashUSAR


So that was you posting this on a certain image board that has been dubbed "the anus of the internet" that shall not be named at this current point in time... Man I wish I had your budget haha


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 09:03:19


Post by: Müller


I demand more mud, and trenches


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 11:34:35


Post by: doubleT


@ Crash: Trolling is a art.

Soo, I'm cleaning up my desk right now and then I'll start working on that pile of resin.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 15:15:14


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Great stuff!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 15:18:49


Post by: Tortured-Robot


You are keeping forgeworld alive...painfull amount of money spent!! haha, make sure you enjoy it!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 15:41:06


Post by: marvlev


Wow what a great army!!! DKOK is the best out there! And the Vostroyans of course...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/23 16:19:52


Post by: Tek


Wowsers - this kicks my army in the dick.

Your work is amazing. Please keep it up - I'm interested in seeing how you tackle painting armour. I honestly don't know how one person can afford a whole FW army, but that's my green eyes for you.

Really, really great stuff. I'd never have the patience to make that barbed wire, so good job there too. can't wait for updates.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/26 21:02:41


Post by: Commander Cain


Tortured-Robot wrote:You are keeping forgeworld alive...painfull amount of money spent!! haha, make sure you enjoy it!


I agree totally! The trick is not to rush, treat every man like a special figure (they cost the same price as one! )


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 18:09:47


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, guys.

Yeah, I'm taking my time. I'm busy deflashing all this amount of resin ... there's a small chance of me going insane if I'm not putting it all away from time to time to do something else. ;D Damn resin. I love the details, but FUXX, it can be a PITA.


--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--


Small update:
I took the very first Death Korp that I painted, the Master of Ordnance, and gave him the arm of the tank commander, that is holding the binoculars. It's just a small thing but I'm happy that he finally is finished as I planed from the beginning.

I'll work in the left guy, too.
Meanwhile, the tank commander and two commissars are ready to be painted. I'm really looking forward to painting the later. :yes:




Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 18:33:00


Post by: SilverMK2


Looking pretty spiffy


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 18:38:59


Post by: MajorTom11


Fantastic stuff! Reminds me of the minis from that Halo 3 commercial, and just in case it could somehow be misinterpreted, it's a compliment!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 19:01:50


Post by: SirGordonblixt


This is truly amazing! Keep up the good work!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 20:02:13


Post by: Phazit257


I can't think of any words to describe the pure awesomeness
that is this army. Keep it up!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 21:05:02


Post by: Young_Logan


Loving this work, i might start my own


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/28 22:37:31


Post by: monkeytroll


Still looking gorgeous, and making me glad I plan to take mine in a different direction when I finally get round to them (and that's probably a time-scale measured in years, don't hold your breath) as otherwise they'd just compare badly to these


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/30 16:41:47


Post by: doubleT


It still makes me happy everytime I read all your comments! Thanks a lot, guys. You keep me going forward.

Small Update:



Damn Resin. The sword of the left one makes me go insane. Straightened it 3 times. Now it's bend - again! Sword of the right one broke.

And the macro-lens forgives nothing!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/30 16:54:34


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


doubleT wrote:It still makes me happy everytime I read all your comments! Thanks a lot, guys. You keep me going forward.

Small Update:



Damn Resin. The sword of the left one makes me go insane. Straightened it 3 times. Now it's bend - again! Sword of the right one broke.

And the macro-lens forgives nothing!


What is there to forgive? They look GREAT. You have an amazing amount of brush control.

_Tim?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/30 17:03:26


Post by: Gijouhei


Agreed, these look amazing. Bet they look magnificent all ranked up together.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/09/30 17:25:07


Post by: Empchild


I will say you are making a lot of fun out of this progect. Cheers!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/01 19:47:18


Post by: Nowlan


Excellent painting. Shame that the sword on the left one is bent. =/


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/01 19:57:21


Post by: LeBaron


You're painting skills are quite amazing. I love your DKoK paint scheme, it's simple yet elegant. Keep it up!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/01 20:51:13


Post by: doubleT


thanks

Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
What is there to forgive? They look GREAT. You have an amazing amount of brush control.

Well, there's a little bit of glue on the sword of the right guy ... And some minor mistakes you only see with a macro-lens.

Nowlan wrote:Excellent painting. Shame that the sword on the left one is bent. =/

Yeah, I know. I'm thinking about trying to straighten it one more time. As I said, it was ok when I started painting him. :/


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/01 20:59:05


Post by: Grundz


doubleT wrote:
Yeah, I know. I'm thinking about trying to straighten it one more time. As I said, it was ok when I started painting him. :/


that model's sword suck, same thing happened to me twice, i ended up using a tiny bead of glue glue the jerks sword to his head to hold it straight.

BTW: this is easily among the best painted armies ive ever seen, good job


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/02 08:39:48


Post by: Müller


Make a new one out of plasticard?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/02 09:44:50


Post by: doubleT


How would that not break off of the handle?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 09:46:12


Post by: Müller


Tiny pinning


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 18:01:37


Post by: noahthpirate


subscribed. your army looks fantastic man, love the time you put into detail like bases and gun straps as well as your great paint job. Keep it up! i'd like to see updates and am especially interested in how that tank turned out.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 18:34:08


Post by: Just Dave


Subscribed also, it looks absolutely amazing man and your painting skills really do justice to such great models!
I can't wait for more and to see how you make the tanks, really great work and weathering!
It has a lot of character, quality and mud.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 18:56:11


Post by: The Dreadnote


Well this is all suitably impressive. Will be paying close attention in future.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 23:19:03


Post by: doubleT


The commissars are finished.





I'll have to do some work in the next weeks and month, so I don't know how much I get painted till the end of the year.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/03 23:31:49


Post by: Just Dave


Wow. It's a shame you've got to stop as they look great! I think their comparatively clean clothing will help them stand out suitably. Great Job again man.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/04 01:05:27


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


Nooo i want more!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/04 03:38:00


Post by: Santobell


Really nice work mate, the cleanness of those Commissar's Vs the dirty coats is a great contrast! very realistic detailing


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/04 21:03:39


Post by: Cardinal Xaphan


No matter what color scheme is used the Death Korps of Krieg are absolutely beautiful models.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/08 19:15:19


Post by: doubleT


Thx guys

Gijouhei wrote:Agreed, these look amazing. Bet they look magnificent all ranked up together.

I'll try to get more pics of the complete army and a friend of mine said he'd like to try to make a great photoshop artwork.

Just Dave wrote:Wow. It's a shame you've got to stop as they look great! I think their comparatively clean clothing will help them stand out suitably. Great Job again man.

Nah, I won't stop, don't worry! It's just that I have to make some money, too. That means that I'm - again - working day and night for some time now, but I'll try to do a painting session now and then when I need some time off of work.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/08 19:37:15


Post by: MajorTom11


Ever think about throwing some pigments on in addition to the paint splats?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/17 18:08:52


Post by: doubleT


Yeah, I will try this. Just atm I don't have them here.

Here's a teaser of what I'm going to do next:



Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/17 19:31:06


Post by: PDH


Your commissars look really good. I cannot wait to see a picture of them with your Death Korp. To break the tide of muddy green.

I really like the engineer models, so I wait with baited breath to see them guys muddy.

Peter


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 16:13:38


Post by: doubleT


After the commissars: Finally more mud!



click for big version


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 16:50:07


Post by: Calibanite Lion


nice work, i love the grenadier miniatures, they are the best looking dkok infantry. cant wait to see the termite


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 17:21:54


Post by: Hangfire


Simply fantastic work double T, really impressed with the black of the commissar's coat. Really well highlighted but still black and that is not an easy thing to achieve.

Care to share your recipe for awesome blackness?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 18:00:56


Post by: doubleT


Flat black CB primer without any highlights at all. Looks awesome and I didn't dare highlighting it with grey.


edit: Here is more ...



click for bigger version


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 21:14:20


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


Wow that last shot is awesome!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 21:36:26


Post by: PDH


Your army looks fantastic. I never realised just how important banners are for the Imperial Guard until I saw that image.

You've pretty much persuaded me to get a some Engineers...absolutely gorgeous models and the paint job is great.

(edit) By the way how easy would it be to replace a few of those shots guns with melta guns? (I'd probably use them as a veteran squad).

Thank you

Peter


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 23:33:49


Post by: Commander Cain


OK that is the last straw! I am buying myself some Death Korps, how could you take that last picture and not make everyone who looks at it instantly want to get some? Great work!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/20 23:36:22


Post by: kenshin620


Excellent, as always!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 00:12:41


Post by: Just Dave


Stunning. Absolutely stunning. A great job to great miniatures. There are a fair few DKoK miniatures around these days, but yours are the best I've seen. Great work, keep it up.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 04:35:44


Post by: Lord Kaesar II


Abso-frakkin'-lutely awesome army you have there! I speak with everyone else when I say that group shot is really great, and does, in my opinion, really give an idea of a Krieg force should look like, especially with the muddied up bases to give them some ground under their feet.

Continue to build this force and you will go far. -Kaesar II


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 11:53:43


Post by: Calibanite Lion


army shot looks great, you should do a photoshop with some background images


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 16:29:19


Post by: doubleT


PDH wrote:Your army looks fantastic. I never realised just how important banners are for the Imperial Guard until I saw that image.

Yeah, I could use some more. I want to convert at least one of the running guys to hold a banner with both hands, running forward.

PDH wrote:
By the way how easy would it be to replace a few of those shots guns with melta guns? (I'd probably use them as a veteran squad).

Very easy. The Weapon Upgrade Set would work. All the arms would be interchangeable in the complete army - with some small exceptions.
But the shoulder pads might not fit style-wise.

Commander Cain wrote:OK that is the last straw! I am buying myself some Death Korps, how could you take that last picture and not make everyone who looks at it instantly want to get some? Great work!

Oh, nooo. Shouldn't take any more pics or the blogs will be flooded with copies of my army ... just kidding

Calibanite Lion wrote:army shot looks great, you should do a photoshop with some background images

That was the idea. Just wait for it.
Though I'd need some more guys and bigger weapons for the really impressive shots.

Buuuut ... I'm working on that.

The Hades is still not 100% done, but since I took some pics, I thought I'd share them.

Still not sure about the blades. I kept them relatively clean. They'd rotate fast so there wouldn't be much mud.
And on the rest of the Hades it's nearly too much mud.
Needs some work on the control panel and some exhaust dirt.









As allways: Click for Bigger Version

btw. This is 155 pts


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 16:45:12


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Incredibly cool!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 16:56:42


Post by: Tortured-Robot


Simply love the earthy tones of your guard, look great.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 20:38:27


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


thats really awesome what are the rules like for that model?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 22:54:38


Post by: doubleT


It uses the large blast template when it appears!
The rules are in the Siege Regiment Army List Update PDF on ForgeWorld.

The drill appears in round 2 and the engineers in round 3.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 23:18:52


Post by: LeBaron


Lovely. Looks as if it were actually in the field. Are you going to must make game peices or are you gonna use them as set peices.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/21 23:54:50


Post by: Arclaw


I love the Death Korps, and you have done them justice. Fantastic work, I wish I could paint as well as you!

That black on the commisar is just primer, you say? Wow... there really isn't any varnish or anything adding that shine? What is this "CB Primer" you use then- I assume the CB doesn't stand for Chaos Black, since my GW spray gives a finish nothing like as nice as that! I found "Chassis Black" primer from Eastwood on google, is that the one?

This makes me want to start a blog about repainting my old Tallarn army... I've just finished the first squad... hmm


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/22 00:45:33


Post by: doubleT


No, it's Chaos Black Primer, sorry. You really have to shake the bottle. And try to spray from a distance. But I know the problem. My current, new bottle gave me a shiny finish, too. :( Guess I had luck.

@ LeBaron:
"must make game peices or are you gonna use them as set peices."
Don't know if I understand this right? You ask if these are for gaming or just show?

Well, I do try to play a game from time to time.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2010/10/22 01:09:46


Post by: Arclaw


I thought I was pretty slick with the ol' spraypaint.. but obviously I have a way to go! Cheers

Congratulations again. It would be great to see you do a battletank sometime.... ..... I live in hope


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:14:27


Post by: doubleT


Soooo ...

I had a lot to do - and I still have a lot to do. I was / am busy making some money ... (to spend it on FW ...).

But today I started building the Centaur, so the grenadiers will be ready soon.
I'm not very motivated, though. But I hope this will get better with the progress.

Here are some WIP pics:













I know, the paintjob on the outside is crap. Here's my secret: It's ALLWAYS crap! And I don't mind ... - I'll muddy it up afterwards anyway. The green is just the basic tone underneath all the mud.

On the inside I tried some scratches and wear. I'm not satisfied yet, though. Again: Parts of the inside will be muddy / dirty, too.

I had some problems with the Wash, too.

The work on the Centaur is now stopped until I can get new washes / paint.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:19:59


Post by: dark6spectre


how did you weather the mud onto the guys legs. Do you just paint on with weathering powder?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:39:11


Post by: doubleT


I drybrush them. I use a puddle of Scorched Brown and Bestial Brown and let both touch in the middle. I dip the brush in and so I get a mix of both in the middle and each brown on the sides.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:41:35


Post by: dark6spectre


and no weathering powders in sight? im impressed. Good work on the models, you gotta love the Korps!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:47:30


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Very very lovely weahering on the inside, good job!!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/24 22:52:56


Post by: doubleT


I'll get the powders next time I order new models from FW.

But I won't use them for the mud / dirt because I don't want to change the method.

@ Vitruvian: thx - but it's not even finished yet.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/01/25 05:19:17


Post by: LeBaron


doubleT wrote:No, it's Chaos Black Primer, sorry. You really have to shake the bottle. And try to spray from a distance. But I know the problem. My current, new bottle gave me a shiny finish, too. :( Guess I had luck.

@ LeBaron:
"must make game peices or are you gonna use them as set peices."
Don't know if I understand this right? You ask if these are for gaming or just show?

Well, I do try to play a game from time to time.


Sorry, I had a gak tard moment. It was went to read "Are you going to just make them game pieces or are you gonna use them as set pieces." Sorry. I was tired as hell when I posted.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/09 00:03:12


Post by: doubleT


idk if I understand you, sorry. Set pieces = show pieces?
As I said before, they are a little bit of both.

I finished the mud on the Centaur today, but it's still missing the gunner and the grenadiers.

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/09 00:58:54


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


wow you nailed the mud on the vehicle and the interior looks great! thats an awesome model.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/09 01:07:04


Post by: Commander Cain


Great mud and weathering effects! It will look even better once the crew is all inside


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/09 02:42:02


Post by: kevlar'o


i was planning on those forge world modles but with what you have done, i'm afied i would waste them


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/09 11:31:15


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, guys. And kevlar'o, just get a few of those and try it. If you give them just a little attention, Death Korps can be painted pretty easily. And with washes it's even easier to achieve good results.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/12 16:12:45


Post by: doubleT


Now with grenadiers. It's really a pain in the a$$ to fit them in there! I will really have to motivate myself to put the minis in there when I order more Centaurs.


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/12 18:55:30


Post by: neil101


dkok guys and that tank are very nice! just about to muddy up my own tank but i doubt i will go that far. did i mention i really like your guys , i have to say i took some insperation from them when creating my own ig army ! i even have a printout of your guy jumping the barbed wire , for reference on how to achieve good looking mud!
Credit where credit is due!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/12 19:01:29


Post by: samwellfrm


Great job on the grenadiers. Too bad they were a pain to put in.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/13 23:50:56


Post by: doubleT


Thank you, guys!

I have news:

I like these, I'll get more of them! I know that the Grenadier-Centaur is not the Artillery-Traktor version, but I had to see how it looks.

And I like it! I'll have to get 3 more thudd guns and another 3 heavy mortars - and 8 Centaurs to carry them around.
(And another one for the grenadiers and one for the HQ and one for the Quartermaster with stuff he collected on the battlefield ...)

I'm not quite sure about the mud on them (I have to say, they both look really good when they were clean! Making them dirty was really hard for me this time!)
Crew is getting painted right now + I'm deflashing the Quartermaster & Retinue.

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 00:02:12


Post by: Commander Cain


"Bring in the big guns!"

Really good work, the mud effects are looking great and the green you have going is perfect for DKoK.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 09:54:56


Post by: neil101


The mud is great , just keep reminding yourself thats the way its meant to be! i can sympathise with the feeling of not wanting to dirty a cool paintjob , but thats why your guys are cool , they dont give a feth , its war after all.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 10:41:00


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Wonderful!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 12:15:40


Post by: fabbes


Aces man! So awesome


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 12:49:02


Post by: doubleT


Thanks

and neil: You're right. I guess I'll have to start making a mud table.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 22:06:03


Post by: neil101


Yay mud table ! you know you want to! just go and watch pachendale or better still Kokoda if you havent already.. iam pretty sure you wont feel bad about it after that ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUox_hQAih8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6_DKFPZxdQ


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/14 22:17:09


Post by: a small waagh


... *jaw hits the floor then rolls of down the stairs and through the outside door*


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/15 22:25:43


Post by: doubleT


yeah, neil, I'm not sure if this is the movie I had seen, but I based my whole Death Korps of Krieg on this setting. I'll try to add a bit more barbed wire, though, inspired by the movie Deathwatch]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0KQYHJ6K_s

But then again, this might suit a Nurgle army much better.

I also think that I should make the minis even more dirty.

The army consists of 69 miniatures, 2 artillerie guns and two vehicles right now. 1204 points. When I'm finished with everything from my last order, it'll be 118 miniatures, 2 guns, two vehicles => 1593 points.

Here is an overview over what I got at the moment:

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/15 23:17:00


Post by: neil101


i hve seen that movie its pretty good , nice aunder the radar for most people, i also just watched the mutant chronicles , its not great but its pure 40k rip off, it even has a dkok vs chaotic mutants with renagade arm blades lol , i nearly ......somethinged myself when that happend ! , great army shots fella , i cant stop droolling at how beautiful dkok are when painted to this standard. , btw i eventually will create a mud board for the Praxian guard, so if you do make one , please share ....;-)


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/16 20:18:21


Post by: doubleT


OK, some time ago I said that I wouldn't unpack a new item before everything else is finished, to avoid having gray or black masses on the table.
But one item of my last order was the running autocannon team and I had planned to convert it to make them shooting, so I looked out for kneeling guys in the other squads. My plan was to take two of the kneeling guys from the artillery crews, use them as autocannon gunners, use the running gunners as normal Korpsmen and use two of them as artillery crew. Since I also planned to switch some arms, I stopped painting the artillery crew and decided to finish this little conversion first.
I think, now that they stopped selling the sets / heavy weapon squads, they'll have trouble to get rid of the running heavy weapon teams ...

Here are the parts that are different in the sets (I started sawing on the right piece):


A little sawing, a little cutting, a little bending:


Upper side:


Now I have to find some arms that I can use:


1st: The fine modelling saw is worth every penny!
2nd: When I bent the part, a small piece broke off, but it won't be visible.
3rd: DK squads and sets usually have no spare parts when everything is built correctly. Thus, I have to switch arms between sets and miniatures.

edit:

I found a second arm:


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/16 23:52:09


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


wow that army shot looks awesome, great work keep it going!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/16 23:59:51


Post by: Commander Cain


I was hoping someone would do something like this, It seems odd how FW only sells 2 sets shooting while the other is jogging off to another spot on the field even though they come in a squad of 3 if you know what I mean.



Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/17 12:39:29


Post by: neil101


I like the idea that the dkok are in other more unusual positions , i think it adds variety to the crew, but i guess its a bit annoying to use while playing a battle, more of a scenic idea. will be interesting to see , how you convert them , seeing as resin is a bugger!
Funnily enough i have tried to copy some of the dkok positions with the perry napoleonics , the lone heavy stubber guy and that autocannon set.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/18 21:58:11


Post by: doubleT


neil101 wrote:will be interesting to see , how you convert them , seeing as resin is a bugger!


You can see the conversion already in the pics above.

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So, I finally finished the artillery crews and gave the engineers some skull decals on their shoulder pads:
(The artillery gets red collar patches.)

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/18 22:08:45


Post by: Just Dave


Wow. I'm pleased to see you're posting again, I would really recommend this blog to anyone; that's a really great and characterful looking army you have there.

I do fear you may have gone a bit OTT with the mud on the vehicle, but when you look closer you can see it's largely (and understandably) just the tracks.

Seriously great work man, I look forward to some more!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/18 22:10:21


Post by: Commander Cain


The use of different colour helmets really sets them apart!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/19 00:42:01


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Argh, having a nerd-orgasm over here! Love it.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/19 19:13:19


Post by: platypuscorps


Death Korps Kick ASS!
Especially muddy ones. Man, these are some of the best minis I've seen! You paint to a pretty good standard bro. Kinda like Gitsplitta said once:"My minis aren't the best individually, but as an army they shine."
This is a great blog, and You deserve a cookie. Unfortunately, I ate my last one, so have some Cheese!
You should do a diorama, and you must definately build a trench table. Yes, here I am, attemptin to coax even more money out of you. Yes, I'm a sick person.
Subscribed!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/20 22:20:08


Post by: doubleT


Again: Thanks a lot, guys.

Dave, I always fear that I'm going OTT with the mud and lately I had a little trouble hitting the right mix, so it looks rather dry.

Rose_Mountainz wrote:Argh, having a nerd-orgasm over here! Love it.


Haha, I think I should consider this a compliment, even though thinking about it is a little ... weird.
Thx

platypuscorps wrote:
You should do a diorama, and you must definately build a trench table. Yes, here I am, attemptin to coax even more money out of you. Yes, I'm a sick person.
Subscribed!


thx for the cookie - err, cheese, damn ...

I'm planing on something big in that direction. Don't know if I'll be able to do this until summer, but I'll try. And I can promise that if I can do everything as planned, you'll be amazed!

doubleT wrote:

As you can see here, I made one base with ammunition. My thought was, to use this as a proxy for a 4th crew member until I have more miniatures to do the job.

So the other gun would need an ammunition base proxy, too, right?

For the sake of organization, I'll post the following updates in two seperate posts below:

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/20 22:21:48


Post by: doubleT


Sooo ... the first team of the autocannon squad. As I said a few posts back, I built this one from the running team so I combined parts from different other korpsmen. Some parts were really annoying to fit and I know the 2nd gunner looks very relaxed for sitting in the middle of a battle zone, but I'm happy with the result.

When I finished painting them, I decided to put a little barbed wire onto the base because it looked rather naked. Now, you don't really see this, but there's over 1ft of barbed wire on that base. After building it, I realized that the one post would obstruct the gun, so I decided to bend it a little ...


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/20 22:22:56


Post by: doubleT


And now, the Heavy Bolter Team. This will support the HQ until I get two more of them, to build a squad. I'm still undecided which HW team the HQ could use best. This first choice was made because of optical reasons ...

I love the Heavy Bolter team, it looks so cool! Again, I changed one of the miniatures, the one lying one, with one from the firing squad and he looks rather relaxed, too. Mainly because I want to convert the lying guy to hold a gun (sniper?).

This miniature really was a pain in the a$$. I painted them before I glued them together, so I could reach all parts easily. But glueing them together really sucked! I would have to hold the gun, the gunner and put the arm between both - the gun was fixed but I couldn't fix the gunner ...
After two attempts there was glue everywhere, including my table and my fingers. I stopped for an hour to relax and everything turned out fine eventually.

Again, these guys got some barbed wire on their base. I hope you like it. I thought I'd start to press a little harder to keep the mud and barbed wire theme going.

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/20 22:36:22


Post by: Baiyuan


Awesome job mate! Nice and dirty. The green works great, even though I think it could use another color to add some contrast, but that's just what we are used from GW, strong contrasts. On the other hand that plain scheme makes them look a little bit like historical troops, thats a good thing. Maybe if you added some troop markings you could bolster both aspects, contrast and credibility. I'd suggest cadian decals (if you know how to properly apply them).


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/20 22:36:50


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Really awesome!!

How come you dont get "automatically appended next post"??


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/21 04:31:08


Post by: samwellfrm


Very nice. I''m definitely getting WWI vibes from this army. Great job.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/21 23:57:58


Post by: doubleT


Thanks a lot!

Baiyuan, I know what you mean. And I don't really like most of the "suggestions". I'm quite happy with the realistic and thus "historically correct" look. As for the decals, I'm looking into several from FW.

Vitruvian, it's because I'm awesome! Haha, no, idk.

Thanks, samwellfrm, that's what I'm aiming for!

Now with my last order I got one of the Death Riders. I ordered only one, because I wasn't sure about Riders in a 40k army, and I wanted to check one out before buying a whole bunch of them. But I fell in love with these, the models are amazing! I'm going to order 5 more - and one of them will be converted to be a commissar. The limited commissar on a horse costs about 60 GBP on eBay ... I think I can do quite a good job at converting one from one of the commissars and Death Rider No. 5 (the horse doesn't look that static).

Anyway, here are some WIP pics:











Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/22 00:15:41


Post by: Wolf


I'm about to say something rather controersial,

I think I have a man crush on you

Anywho, these are really looking nice mate, loving the green you got going on here. The only, and I mean the only thing I can pick out that is a flaw would be the emblems on the infantry helmets, I can't help but think they could do with a light boltgun coat.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/22 22:24:49


Post by: Baiyuan


About the rider. I know it's wip, so it might not be representative, but the green seems different to me, looked better on the other pics, deeper. Maybe you're not done shading yet. Also I think the color of the horse is a bit distracting, it's taking away the focus from the rest of the mini. I would go much darker there, but of course thats just me. At the moment the eyecatcher e.g. brightest point on the model is the shoulder of the horse, that should be the helmet or chest piece. Again, it's wip, just some comments on the status quo.

Just recognized: Moin moin, mien Jung.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 03:59:15


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


wow great stuff love the heavy weapon teams how did you do your barbed wire i might try that out!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 09:19:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice idea for the barbed wire HWT bases... will this serve ruleswise as a bit of protection in close combat?

cheers, vik


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 09:39:36


Post by: doubleT


No, it's just scenic.

IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES wrote:wow great stuff love the heavy weapon teams how did you do your barbed wire i might try that out!


Here you go: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/314348.page


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 12:46:57


Post by: doubleT


Pics of the Death Rider:

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 12:52:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


for me the bum of the horse looks somewhat creepy...mind you i dont talk about the paintjob, cause that is exellent, the sculpt is somewhat different looking from horses i saw...does the fluff of the DKoK say what kind of horses they use? or why the bum looks that way?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 13:05:02


Post by: doubleT


Have you seen the legs? And that there are hoses in the neck? They are medically and genetically altered.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 13:21:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think their front legs look suspicious too, and i just saw after you pointed them out the pipes coming from their necks...yuck...^^ very frank n. stein...
even to mere mares^^ they did their tinkering...

i just saw the general shape of a horse, and you know that old song: a horse is a horse, of course, of course...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 16:41:03


Post by: quietus86


That hoarse looks great . just like the rest of your army. bdw how did you do the mud ?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 16:53:16


Post by: doubleT


Well, Viktor, I have to say, I like the look. At first I thought they look horrible and that horses wouldn't fit to the IG. I still think they don't fit to the IG, but they look great for the DK.

quietus, I did a tutorial for the mud a while back:

doubleT wrote:

I challenge you to write a tutorial on this thread. I recommend your fabulous mud effects.


Thanks again, Cass, I hope this tutorial is what you've been looking for.

I didn't have any miniature ready to be based so I made an empty mudbase.


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Mud Base Tutorial
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What you'll need:
- a base
- wood glue
- fine sand
- sawdust

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Mix all the components with a little drop of water.

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Put it all on the base with a toothpic or an old brush and let it dry.



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Drown it in Bestial Brown - no need to thin it.

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Drown it in Devlan Mud Wash.

It'll look like this when it' dryed:



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For a little dry-brush touch up and mud on clothes, I add a drop of Bestial Brown and a drop of Scorched Brown next to each other on a plate or something.

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Dip the brush in between bos and mix them a little, then drybrush the mud for a nice finish and the clothes of the miniature to add dirt and weathering.

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Results:



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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 17:04:54


Post by: quietus86


sorry follow the tread with last read post lol and forgot that one. why not put it in the tutorials in dakka dakka tutorials


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 17:53:19


Post by: doubleT


I don't think it's that important.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 18:02:32


Post by: neil101


Great barbed bases , nice tutorial mate and blumming lovely horse, the groupshot photos i just cant get enough of ;-)


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 18:08:09


Post by: Just Dave


Wow. I still really love the look these guys have going on and your regular updates.

I wouldn't worry too much about the mud, so far at least - particularly with the barbed wire now too - you're really capturing the trench warfare/grimy/no-mans-land feel. I think on all of your infantry and heavy weapons etc. so far you've got the mud spot on, really impressively done with realism and grime yet not detracting from the amazing models and paintjob. Honestly, I can't compliment your models enough.

I think the potential problem with the tank is that its surely harder to replicate the tanks effects on mud and keep it balanced. A quick butchers on google and I came across this:



Which suggests to me, that on your one vehicle (and drill), so far, you're pretty much spot on. I suspect it may currently be a bit too much on the vehicle, but on the infantry at least, it honestly looks amazing.

Hope that helps in any way man.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/23 18:44:30


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, Dave.
I think, recently my mud looks a little too dry (since the Centaur, I guess), but I'm working on that.

The pic you posted is really good, but unfortunately, I couldn't find any good pics with a higher resolution.

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On a German board I was asked to take some better pics, so you get to see some more of the rider, too:


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/24 03:10:58


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


wow stunning model legit this thread is inspiring.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/24 13:59:54


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


Been way to long since I checked back on this thread! Everything is looking amazing, the Rough Rider especially!

Keep it up!
_Tim?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/27 09:48:29


Post by: The only jp


Stunning! Everything looks so realistic, the mud on the men is perfect but IMHO I think there is a wee bit to much mud o. Some of the tank tracks.

But that is down to personal preference and they still look amazing!!!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/02/27 16:59:56


Post by: platypuscorps


Holy Crap those Death Riders are awesome! And on the subject of the tutorial, yes it's that important! How many poor idiots do you think will try to muddy up their troops, only for it to turn out horribly!?!?!?!? ARTICLE-IFY THE F NG TUTORIAL!!!!!!!!!.
Oh, and can you also post a painting tutorial for those lovely deathkorps.
And OT, I just read Path of The Warrior(Thorpe), I'm thinking my username should have been Striking Platypus.
DAMN IT!!!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/01 01:46:58


Post by: doubleT


Hey, thanks guys, and thank you, platypus. Well, the tutorial is part of a tutorial thread on the tutorial board. Don't know if I should just copy it and make a new thread. But if you have some patience, I might make a complete tutorial on how to paint Death Korps to look this badass.
Then again ... I don't know if I want people to copy my style.

--

So, tonight I'm suffering from a heavy case of nostalgia due to listening to songs from summer 2005, the time I'd get into the train each sunday evening, put on the headphones, listen to cool music and ride into the sunset - to get to the barracks for basic training.

I really can't describe the feeling I have when I hear these songs. Imagine a trainride through the beautiful flat landscape of northern Germany were you can nearly see from one coast to the other on a warm and quiet summer evening. You see the sun set above fields and green meadows with flowers in every colour. As you look out the window you don't see any people, houses or signs of civilization except the tracks and the train you're in.

It was already dark when we arrived at the barracks and I'd greet the comrades from our room, which became friends really, with a "Welcome home!". This was one of the best times in my live.

-

So, with this in mind I finished my first heavy weapon squad today:





Not quite happy with the barbed wire on the one base. But I'm very happy with the mud on the base without any wire. I'll try to take better pics tomorrow as my cam's batteries have to be recharged.

Oh, and here's a pic from basic training ...


Ah, how I miss this ...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/01 01:57:45


Post by: kenshin620


Those heavy weapons are ACE. I actually like the barb wire although the ones without them still look just as good


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/01 02:53:20


Post by: Nowlan


Thats a lot of MG3's. Possibly even enough dakka to please an ork...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/01 08:43:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ha remember those heavy bastards too...we had some really big guys in our unit to carry this lot ariund but when changing gear aroudnus it was quite a burden to carry them around when marching...
but boy was it fun to shoot them...once we even incerated a bigger spot of dried grassland with night amo...oh those were the days...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 14:29:10


Post by: doubleT


Nowlan wrote:Thats a lot of MG3's. Possibly even enough dakka to please an ork...




Yeah, Viktor, I remember shooting them. Never had to walk around with them, though. I usually only carried a G36 or when I was lucky, only a P8.
Once we had some US soldiers at the shooting range and they shot the MG3. One guy didn't properly lean into the gun and it kicked him in the shoulder real bad. I hear afterwards that he actually broke the bone in his shoulder!

Anyway, here are two more / better shots of the new teams. And one shot of the Heavy Bolter team with the now repainted ammunition. I like this color for the ammo much better.


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 15:07:58


Post by: CadianXV


Great work- definitely an army to be proud of.

Quick question, did you ever finish the Vanquisher conversion you were working on?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 16:17:34


Post by: doubleT


Not yet. But I haven't given up either.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 16:24:49


Post by: steeds of war


Looks awesome very trench warfare


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 20:24:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Once we had some US soldiers at the shooting range and they shot the MG3. One guy didn't properly lean into the gun and it kicked him in the shoulder real bad. I hear afterwards that he actually broke the bone in his shoulder!


made me laugh in mischief...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 20:51:08


Post by: Skylifter


Awesome army. I'll at some point bug you to have a game with me once I have some more time.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/03 22:50:02


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


wow love it soo epic.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/04 01:47:12


Post by: LeBaron


Quite some amazing work you've done there. Like the tut.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/07 21:46:10


Post by: Baiyuan


Again: Very credible paint job! Suits the DKK so well, keep going!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/08 07:38:58


Post by: doubleT


Gray masses ...

Here's what comes up next: 2 Squads and 1 Grenadier Squad.
The "swimming" guy will get a rock to lie down on later ...


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/08 08:35:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*splish splash i was taken a muddy bath*


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/12 23:13:34


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


cant wait to see more.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/13 00:51:00


Post by: combat engineer


Any chance a Gorgon or two will make it's way in?

Your army looks brillant. Makes me regret getting rid of my Krieg , though I would have not been able to do them anywhere near your outstanding work.

Keep up the good job .

Mat


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/13 15:11:15


Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


Out of curiosity, what kind of list do you run with these guys?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/15 21:25:17


Post by: White Ninja


I just have two things to say. Number 1 is i hate you and your amazing painting and modeling skills. Number 2 is that you have some of the best painted miniatures i have ever seen. painting up that many models to that level is something i wish i could do for my guard.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/15 21:31:09


Post by: logg_frogg


I love Death Corps!

Great job basing and painting! *subscribed*


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/16 12:50:20


Post by: doubleT


@ combat engineer: I definitely want a Gorgon! But I think it will not be part of my next order.

@ IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES: I use FW's Siege Regiment Army List. This makes it easier to use the Centaur, Hades, all the artillery, Death Rider, ... I can do without Valks, Chimeras and Sentinels since I think that these don't fit into the WW1 look anyway. And the SRAL gives them +1 WS, Leadership tests without any negative modifications in CC, ...

@ White Ninka: Thanks They are 92 minis now.

Now here's some update. I decided to paint these 10 guys together, which can get really annoying. Took me 3 hours to paint all the leather parts with a 10/0 brush ... I nearly went insane.

They all got bayonets, which I will play as if they had laspistols and a close combat weapon. Shorter range of firing but +1 attack in close combat. I'll combine 2 or 3 quads with bayonets for this (2 squads ready) and they'll get a commissar and the Quartermaster (FnP).

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/16 13:39:13


Post by: derd0m


Looking great as usual! I painted my grenadier squad in one batch but I used my airbrush to do the basecoat of the leather - the hole squad took me around 6-7 hours without basing.
So you might consider investing some money on a descent airbrush equipment? I'd highly recommend that! This would also make the painting of a gorgon way easier.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/16 13:59:55


Post by: doubleT


Painting all the uniforms and helmets green is easy, I just cover them in Catachan Green with a no. 3 brush. I can't use an airbrush or spray gun for the leather / details now, can I?

edit: Maybe it would work better if I paint everything brown first ... good point.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/17 04:43:53


Post by: GreyDeathOne


Brother everytime I check in on your thread I gotta slap myself !!! Your work is amazing keep it coming man!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/23 02:00:32


Post by: doubleT


Better stop hitting yourself!

I got another 10 guys finished:

Grenadiers - finally!

I'll try to take some better pics tomorrow.

EDIT: I reached the magic number "100" - It's 104 painted Korpsmen in total!

YEAH!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I took some better pics today:


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And that's how 104 minis (2 are hidden in the Centaur) look like (+ 2 tanks and two guns):


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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/28 16:30:49


Post by: White Ninja


I played a 2500 point match against the death korp and was beaten into the ground quite badly. It was around 130 guardsman verses 40 space marines and even though we ended up tying in kill points he still had over half his army left in play all i really had left was a landraider that wouldnt die.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/29 23:21:44


Post by: Rex-Nine


Awsome! Have you seen Sucker Punch? It's just there is a part in the movie when they ( the kick a$$ girls) where in the middle of a war (It was like WWII but with mechs and zombie nazi). Long story short your army looks like it just came out of the battle!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/30 10:45:11


Post by: doubleT


thx, I'm going to watch it. It's just that over here, it only starts tomorrow.

But when I saw the trailer, I said "I have to see this!" and then I though "bi- / tri-planes, airships, heavy bi-plane bombers, ..." oh the ideas ...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/30 19:27:54


Post by: LeBaron


This is a stunning army. There's no other words to describe it (well, there are but I just can't think of anything. Too much awesome shock, I guess).


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/30 19:39:59


Post by: Just Dave


I've said it before and I'll say it again: Stunning work man. Seriously great looking army here. I may have to go change my underwear...

Next on the conveyor belt?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/30 21:15:39


Post by: doubleT


There's another squad in the making (25% done) and the Quartermaster is ready to be primed. When these are done I'm at 1500 points and I can start some more games.
I'll try to get to 2000 points till May, but idk if I can do this.

To get these 500 point I'm planning to either buy more engineers, grenadiers, artillery and Death Riders, which I'd prefer, or "just" three Leman Russ (Mars Alpha pattern + Ryza turrets).

But honestly, I should save some money right now as I'm inbetween jobs + moving out ...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/03/30 21:46:43


Post by: monkeytroll


Beautiful work again, always enjoy looking at these.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/05 14:26:57


Post by: doubleT


Teaser:


btw.: I love my Macro-Lens.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/05 18:20:51


Post by: Rex-Nine


What is that?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/05 19:48:54


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


DKK Quatermaster Med-Servitor, i believe. Splatter is looking nice


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/05 20:26:13


Post by: Young_Logan


Very nice, how many points is the army now, it looks quite scary, I wouldn't want to face that! Keep up the good work


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/05 20:35:18


Post by: ghosty


Vitruvian XVII wrote:DKK Quatermaster Med-Servitor, i believe. Splatter is looking nice


Aww fiddlesticks, you have to ruin the sleepless nights of wondering, the hours of work time lost due to pondering, and the eventual breakdown associated with having no chance in guessing correctly what said object is.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/06 08:48:51


Post by: Sckitzo


So I originally only clicked this as it was linked for the mud tutorial, ended up reading every page, dude amazing friggin work, really. Hopefully I can make my mud work half as well, as for the models themselves, just awesome. You have amazing brush control man, keep it up!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/06 09:31:14


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Im sorry Ghosty. Surely you can find another way to have a breakdown?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/07 12:16:56


Post by: doubleT


Thanks, Sckitzo. Good luck with the mud.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:DKK Quatermaster Med-Servitor, i believe. Splatter is looking nice


Correct.

Young_Logan wrote:Very nice, how many points is the army now, it looks quite scary, I wouldn't want to face that! Keep up the good work


It's about 1400 in the pic. Right now I have 1440 pts painted. With the Quartermaster done it'll be 1500. I'll try to get to 2000 soon. ( 1/5 of the goal ... )

Here is a small update on the last squad I painted:



- 53 minis painted this year
- 114 painted Death Korps (over all)
- 60 standard Infantry Korpsmen

Right now I'm painting the Quartermaster & Retinue. Really looking forward to posting pics once they're finished! I think you'll love the next update.
It will be a big one!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/07 12:30:57


Post by: Bear LaMorte


Beautiful work sir!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/07 17:51:24


Post by: Young_Logan


Swimming guy is no longer swimming!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/07 18:34:59


Post by: elite_dannux


Awsome!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/07 21:48:38


Post by: IPS


Yea a really nice army. : )

You use some quite inspiring techniques there.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 00:51:10


Post by: doubleT


Thx

Here's a wip of what I'm working on right now:


15 textrolls, each 3 - 4 mm whide ... I'm going insane!

edit: yeah, he has got a rear light ...


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 02:22:02


Post by: kenshin620


They look so...papery!

Keep up the jawsome work!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 03:37:01


Post by: darkkt


Damn - this is impressive.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 04:07:36


Post by: thegoldend6


It's so easy to do clean paint jobs.

Truly awesome work is, like this, dirty, realistic painting!! Keep up the inspiring work.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 18:01:27


Post by: IPS


Very cool model.

Is that nmm?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/08 18:39:26


Post by: Maxim C. Gatling


I LIKE 'em! They're awesome.


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 04:12:42


Post by: doubleT


It is done! [insane laughter]

Too tired to write much. I let the pictures speak for themselves.

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Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 04:48:49


Post by: samwellfrm


Quartermaster and retinue?


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 06:20:14


Post by: bigmek35


love the realistic look on the Quartermaster!


Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 08:24:44


Post by: PDH


The Quarter Master and Retinue have always been some beautiful models.... and you've really done them justice. The highlights of the unit to me are: the text scrolls...the red lettering makes it pop, the blood splatter on the med servitor is excellent too and the skull face mask on the Quarter Master. I'm looking forward to the next group shot because they will add a little more variety to the army, with the bone/white colours.

A few questions because I'm rather fond of what you've done....

  • What colours did you use of the text servitors robes? I really like that dark brown.


  • How did you paint the worn paper textrolls?


  • The oxygen tanks on the back of the text servitor are they grey or dark metal?


  • What are you planning on doing with the cherub that came with the group? Text Servitor definitely looks better without it


  • Excellent army. Thanks for showing

    Peter


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 10:09:21


    Post by: Vitruvian XVII


    Love the canisters of fluid! Look really cool!

    A very nice addition.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 14:47:52


    Post by: doubleT


    thx

    samwellfrm wrote:Quartermaster and retinue?

    Yes. And I love these minis!

    PDH wrote:The Quarter Master and Retinue have always been some beautiful models.... and you've really done them justice.

    Thank you. That's always one of my main goals!

    PDH wrote:
    The highlights of the unit to me are: the text scrolls...the red lettering makes it pop, the blood splatter on the med servitor is excellent too and the skull face mask on the Quarter Master. I'm looking forward to the next group shot because they will add a little more variety to the army, with the bone/white colours.

    Just for you: Group shots (see below).

    PDH wrote:
    A few questions because I'm rather fond of what you've done....

  • What colours did you use of the text servitors robes? I really like that dark brown.

  • - Brown on the robe? That's just brushed on dirt (Bestial Brown). The robe itself is Catachan Green washed with Badab Black - as everything else.

  • How did you paint the worn paper textrolls?

  • - Bleached Bone, thin mix of Bleached Bone and Skull White, Devlan Mud, again Bleached Bone and Skull White to highlight the edges.
    - Black, sometimes a mix of Black and Brown, for the text. Red, sometimes with a little Devlan Mud, for the initials.
    - On some parts I washed the rolls with Devlan Mud afterwards.


  • The oxygen tanks on the back of the text servitor are they grey or dark metal?

  • - the same as every other metal: A mix of Boltgun Metal and Chaos Black, washed with Badab Black, highlightes / brushed lightly with Chainmail.

  • What are you planning on doing with the cherub that came with the group? Text Servitor definitely looks better without it

  • - That's what I thought, too. I didn't like the idea of cherubs. I'll give it (along with the cherub from the WHFB general) to a friend who uses them in his BT army (10,000 pts BT ...).

    Excellent army. Thanks for showing

    Thanks for your interest.

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    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 17:34:47


    Post by: Just Dave


    Holy Mother...

    Those look amazing, I love the models and paintjobs, your scrolls/writing in particular is very impressive. Damn. That is an amazing job you've done there and I love the army picture (particularly the last one). Seriously great looking forces.

    My only qualm is that there doesn't appear to be enough mud on the latest guys. But then again, i think that's probably best so as not to ruin the paint job or models. Great work man.

    What's next?


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 23:34:50


    Post by: PDH


    Thank you for the detailed reply.

    In the initial WIP picture of the text servitor the cloak looks brown (I guess that would be my monitor settings) lol.

    The eye level group shot looks great...in fact I just want to look at it again....





    Peter


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/09 23:39:43


    Post by: Vitruvian XVII


    Love the shot with the focus on the HQ, v. characterful!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/10 07:04:21


    Post by: Rex-Nine


    The Quartermaster looks awsome!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/10 07:50:56


    Post by: LeBaron


    I believe I need to make love to this army now... It's... so beautiful...


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/10 15:57:07


    Post by: doubleT


    Is that so? Thx.
    Doctor Fun, the medical servitor, wants to have a word with you about ... protection ... and stuff ... you know?!

    here are some more detail photos for you:


    Doctor Fun: "I promise, this won't hurt - just a little sting, maybe ..."


    "What did you just say about my nose?




    Complaints Department



    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/10 16:03:02


    Post by: Sckitzo


    Man great updates, loving the work


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/10 16:07:32


    Post by: shingouki


    loving the updates dude.im impressed with the way they look so grim and dark especially the surgeon .


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/12 00:14:37


    Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates


    Wow really love this army


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/12 11:43:52


    Post by: vonjankmon


    This army is seriously dead sexy. Has gotten me back to painting my DKoK army now too.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/12 15:24:28


    Post by: rodgers37


    Some really nice work in here. Love the mud


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/12 20:41:51


    Post by: Baiyuan


    Lovely! If I'd still play 40k I'd say let's meet at the NG battlebunker and have a game. I wouldn't mind losing against that gorgeous bunch, while of course I wouldn't...cough. Great work mate!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/18 14:24:58


    Post by: tehbarry


    doubleT wrote:Thanks, Sckitzo. Good luck with the mud.

    Vitruvian XVII wrote:DKK Quatermaster Med-Servitor, i believe. Splatter is looking nice


    Correct.

    Young_Logan wrote:Very nice, how many points is the army now, it looks quite scary, I wouldn't want to face that! Keep up the good work


    It's about 1400 in the pic. Right now I have 1440 pts painted. With the Quartermaster done it'll be 1500. I'll try to get to 2000 soon. ( 1/5 of the goal ... )

    Here is a small update on the last squad I painted:



    - 53 minis painted this year
    - 114 painted Death Korps (over all)
    - 60 standard Infantry Korpsmen

    Right now I'm painting the Quartermaster & Retinue. Really looking forward to posting pics once they're finished! I think you'll love the next update.
    It will be a big one!


    1/5 of the goal?! How big is this army going to be? I must say that you and a few others here on Dakka truly have made me want to buy a few DKoK of my own... (I'll be placing an order on tuesday, in case your wondering) Also, I love your mud effects, wonderfully done! I doubt I don't have anything else to say that hasn't been said...



    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/22 21:30:03


    Post by: Necanor


    I love your work, thanks for the great inspiration!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/22 21:52:48


    Post by: purplefood


    tehbarry wrote:SNIP


    1/5 of the goal?! How big is this army going to be? I must say that you and a few others here on Dakka truly have made me want to buy a few DKoK of my own... (I'll be placing an order on tuesday, in case your wondering) Also, I love your mud effects, wonderfully done! I doubt I don't have anything else to say that hasn't been said...


    Presumably it's gonna be 10,000 points... or there abouts.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/23 11:06:06


    Post by: doubleT


    Baiyuan wrote:Lovely! If I'd still play 40k I'd say let's meet at the NG battlebunker and have a game. I wouldn't mind losing against that gorgeous bunch, while of course I wouldn't...cough. Great work mate!

    Had to google the NG battlebunker because I wasn't familiar with it. I'm not a very experienced player but I'm looking forward to get into playing now that I have 1500 points available.

    tehbarry wrote:
    1/5 of the goal?! How big is this army going to be?


    Yeah, some guys from Hamburg that I know have ~ 7000 points of Orcs and Black Templar each, one guy is building Renegades. He just started but already has a Warhound (or was it a Reaver?). So, yeah, I gotta keep up with the insanity. We all declared that we'd aim for 10,000 points. I think the Black Templar guy has just reached it. I know that it'll take me a while, but once you start Super Heavies, points come in pretty easy.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/23 11:50:50


    Post by: Commander Cain


    10,000 points! A company of baneblades should do the trick

    Loving the recent updates!

    Cain


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/23 14:54:22


    Post by: tehbarry


    It would be pretty awesome to see 10k points of DKoK in a battle!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/24 21:41:01


    Post by: crazylegsmurphy


    Amazing Job!

    I will definitely be following this thread.

    I have a quick question for you or anyone who knows (Please forgive me if this is obvious, I just recently got into 40K). When you create the bases, do you glue your men down first, or after the mud has been applied? I noticed on a few they seem to sit higher than the base, how were you able to get the mud to cover their boots and such if they were glued on after.

    Again, sorry for the amateurish question.

    CLM


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/24 22:02:55


    Post by: doubleT


    Thanks.
    You can do it however you like, there are no general rules. Sometimes it looks better when the figure is not sinking into the ground. Other times you have to build the ground around it.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/24 22:09:34


    Post by: crazylegsmurphy


    doubleT wrote:Thanks.
    You can do it however you like, there are no general rules. Sometimes it looks better when the figure is not sinking into the ground. Other times you have to build the ground around it.


    I noticed somewhere that you had a picture of one of the troops being suspended in the air with a wire. Do you wire your troops to "hover" and build the mud up to the figure, or do you typically create the mud, glue the figure, then build up more mud before painting?

    I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. Again, amazing work on the figures!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/04/25 00:06:14


    Post by: doubleT


    Only this one time, because he was jumping. Usually I glue them to the base and cover the base with one layer of mud.

    No problem, and thank you.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/04 10:26:16


    Post by: doubleT


    tehbarry wrote:It would be pretty awesome to see 10k points of DKoK in a battle!

    And it would be worth about 6000 € This won't be finished quickly.

    Here's a quick question:
    In a game against my army, would you have a problem if my Leman Russ was just slightly larger than a standard Leman Russ? Let's say I'd use a Malcador as a Leman Russ ...


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/04 10:32:03


    Post by: Viktor von Domm


    would definetly be something that looks better to the fluff i think....


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/05 16:52:59


    Post by: tehbarry


    doubleT wrote:
    tehbarry wrote:It would be pretty awesome to see 10k points of DKoK in a battle!

    And it would be worth about 6000 € This won't be finished quickly.

    Here's a quick question:
    In a game against my army, would you have a problem if my Leman Russ was just slightly larger than a standard Leman Russ? Let's say I'd use a Malcador as a Leman Russ ...


    I'm pretty sure that it would be better fluff wise.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/05 20:36:11


    Post by: WarMill


    Lovely really nice regiment you have here


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/05 23:26:22


    Post by: doubleT


    thx

    @ Viktor & tehbarry: Yeah, it'd be more like a real Lumbering Behemoth


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/05 23:29:22


    Post by: Just Dave


    If anything, having something larger than a 'Russ would be a hindrance to you anyway and it is a GW product, so I can't see anything wrong with it.
    So long as it looks awesome that is.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/05 23:44:29


    Post by: menziez


    Just. Wow.
    Amazing.

    Please don't ever stop!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/07 00:08:29


    Post by: Dr. Temujin


    My god... I want these... they're so sexy...
    Please, keep it up and continue fueling my envy until I finally cave in and buy some DKoK myself!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/09 16:18:55


    Post by: Sckitzo


    With how the rest of your army looks, I wouldn't care if you used a Tonka Toy, honestly I wouldn't even notice said tonka toy besides maybe "Hmm it's not muddy... and something..., but look at everything else!"

    But really, I'd have no problem with a Malcador, I'd actually support it since it would tie in that much better, and even if it was against the rules I'd cut you the slack anyway, I'm personally a lot more lenient on letting my opponents bend rules if their army looks amazing.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/09 19:43:13


    Post by: rubirub


    WOW!!!
    these guardsmen and tanks are amazing!
    good work


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/09 20:50:22


    Post by: doubleT


    Sckitzo wrote:With how the rest of your army looks, I wouldn't care if you used a Tonka Toy, honestly I wouldn't even notice said tonka toy besides maybe "Hmm it's not muddy... and something..., but look at everything else!"

    But really, I'd have no problem with a Malcador, I'd actually support it since it would tie in that much better, and even if it was against the rules I'd cut you the slack anyway, I'm personally a lot more lenient on letting my opponents bend rules if their army looks amazing.


    Haha, thanks for your great answer!

    So far, everyone said they'd be OK with it. The Malcador is slightly longer than a Russ but as whide and high.
    So, how does that sound: The Malcador is on it's way and I plan a heavy conversion. A Leman Russ turret may be involved.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/09 20:59:00


    Post by: DasFluspferd


    I adore you work, honestly this is one of the most amazing DKOK armies I have come across! I think the redish brown you choose for the bases really does a wonderful job compliment the green great coats Awesome


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/10 01:23:36


    Post by: Sckitzo


    A LR turret may work if it doesn't look silly, so only time will tell on that, I look forward to see how it turns out though.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/12 13:11:54


    Post by: doubleT


    I think it'll look good.

    Now to something different:
    While waiting for new miniatures to arrive, I tried to make an animation of the Hades Breaching Drill's blades.



    And yes, the outer blades are off-center on the model.

    I guess this will be my compensation for not being able to build rotating blades on the model. I just wanted to see these bloody things rotate!!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/12 14:39:05


    Post by: Mightmagic


    Imho the best thing about your infantry are the trench coats. Can't wait for the drill.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/12 14:53:37


    Post by: doubleT


    Thank you. The first drill is already there.
    It's just thad I wanted to see these things rotate really bad so when building was not an option, I started trying to make it in 3D.

    doubleT wrote:









    As allways: Click for Bigger Version



    edit: Holy Sh!t! I've just seen the Chaos Dwarf models by FW.
    I fear that I might have to re-allocate some of my DK-budget towards these ... ;D


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/16 16:32:04


    Post by: The only jp


    The Chaos dwarfs don't do it for me...

    Your DKoK, however, are lovely, have you used the Drill in game yet? It's rule look crazy!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/16 17:53:56


    Post by: MAECTPO


    That is quite nice drill there


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/16 19:44:41


    Post by: Vitruvian XVII


    Mmmhmm, the Chaos dwarves are mighty tempting! Must resist the call of Hashut!!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/23 23:56:55


    Post by: doubleT


    TEASER:


    3 combined squads (already shot down) as close combat squad with pistols, commissar and Quartermaster (Feel no Pain) at the main objective.


    Land-Raider-Killer: 5 Engineers with Melter Bombs and Hades Breaching Drill. The drill immobilized the LR on the left and the Melter Bomb immobilized the LR on the right.
    Another Melter Bomb destroyed the main weapon of the LR on the Left. Only then did the first engineer die.


    Without cassualties: The artillery hill

    Company Command with Master of Ordnance and Heavy Bolter. Artillery: Thudd Gun and Heavy Mortar.
    In the front: Autocannons
    To the left: Watchmaster of the grenadiers in a backwards movement as a reaction to losing all 9 men - after killing all standards of the enemy so that noone would get that objective.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/24 00:08:32


    Post by: Just Dave


    God, they look even better in action! Love the artillery hill! So are we getting a battle report?!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/24 02:48:41


    Post by: kenshin620


    The army looks brilliant when its at battle. Must have more!


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/24 03:57:58


    Post by: LeBaron


    doubleT wrote:
    Without cassualties: The artillery hill

    Company Command with Master of Ordnance and Heavy Bolter. Artillery: Thudd Gun and Heavy Mortar.
    In the front: Autocannons
    To the left: Watchmaster of the grenadiers in a backwards movement as a reaction to losing all 9 men - after killing all standards of the enemy so that noone would get that objective.

    +2

    Amazing.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/24 08:34:44


    Post by: Coyotebreaks


    Cool love the action shots. Really nice work on the models to. Well done! +1 for battle report request.


    Death Korps of Krieg - Muddy Times @ 2011/05/24 11:23:56


    Post by: Vitruvian XVII


    AWESOME!!! Those BT are cool as well, love the LR Achilles.

    Please do a batrep!