ShatteredBlade wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:Okay the 25th's the preorder date. Did the most recent rumors indicate seperate box for each faction, one box with both factions, etc?

I wonder what the price is? If it is $125 dollars for only one faction, then I'm probably going to take my ball and go home

Who do you write $125 dollars? That's like saying one hundred and twenty five dollars-dollars. You only need the word or the dollar sign, not both. Also, expect one box. One big ol' box.

Muphry's law strikes again!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law

Again does anyone know what the prices are going to be?

Are we looking at +100 US dollars for single faction starter box?

I sure hope not.

Adam LongWalker wrote:Again does anyone know what the prices are going to be?

Are we looking at +100 US dollars for single faction starter box?

I sure hope not.

We don't know. There haven't been reliable rumors of two starter boxes and the price will probably be the same as AoBR. This is my educated guess.

There is little chance a "starter box" will not have enough things in it to "start" playing. Like two factions.

Can't wait for white dwarf to arrive.

Brother SRM wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:Okay the 25th's the preorder date. Did the most recent rumors indicate seperate box for each faction, one box with both factions, etc?

I wonder what the price is? If it is $125 dollars for only one faction, then I'm probably going to take my ball and go home

Who do you write $125 dollars? That's like saying one hundred and twenty five dollars-dollars. You only need the word or the dollar sign, not both. Also, expect one box. One big ol' box.

Fixed, thanks for the catch. I need to stop posting while getting ready for bed.

via Ravengardt on Faeit 212 wrote:
this time I got something for you.
and the where briefed. On two things. Yeah you guessed. 25.08. will be preorder date for the starter box. There will be a limited version with an Interrogator Chaplain. 08.09. will be the release date of CSM Codex.

Look! Pile-on rumors. I don't think I'll be counting pile-ons this time.

Cant wait till set is released so everyone who "knows" whats in the box will shut up and just enjoy it. Since so many people are obviously making crap up, i will do the same.. I hear all the models are going to be a combination of finecast and paper mache!

For those who are eager to find out the truth, just wait. Another week or two and we will see it in white dwarf and actual pictures posted online. Dont put to much stock in these forums as they are usually half wrong and full of bitter liars, whos inside source is another rumor monger. Gw will put the info out when it is time (though im not cool with delayed release info either).

pretre, that's the first thing I thought as well.

However, this 'source' is saying that CSM will actually be released Sept 8th, instead of starting pre-orders on that date.

Quite a change, if true (yes, I want it a week early lol)

Father Gabe wrote:Cant wait till set is released so everyone who "knows" whats in the box will shut up and just enjoy it. Since so many people are obviously making crap up, i will do the same.. I hear all the models are going to be a combination of finecast and paper mache!

For those who are eager to find out the truth, just wait. Another week or two and we will see it in white dwarf and actual pictures posted online. Dont put to much stock in these forums as they are usually half wrong and full of bitter liars, whos inside source is another rumor monger. Gw will put the info out when it is time (though im not cool with delayed release info either).

I would TOTALLY go for the paper mache minis... especially for Dark Eldar! Then the models would truly represent the vehicles!
Schweet!!!!

Kaimarion over at warseer says stores have started receiving their starter set boxes. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Pretty late for the delivery guys to be working, isn't it?

Hehe I guess he meant earlier in the day but just saw it now

unmercifulconker wrote:Kaimarion over at warseer says stores have started receiving their starter set boxes. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Or not, if stores want to keep their trade accounts.

It may just be so stores can get them ready for games and is not for public showing. I am also guessing if they want to keep their jobs, they must not say anything

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

warboss wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

Someone with a photographic memory would be nice.

warboss wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

pretre wrote:I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

Don't forget to add yourself to the rumor monger thread then. Personally, I think you got it wrong as how everyone knows bolt weapons go pop and not pew.. duh!

pretre wrote:

warboss wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

I LOVE it!!!! I fell out of my chair - AT WORK!!!

warboss wrote:

pretre wrote:I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

Don't forget to add yourself to the rumor monger thread then. Personally, I think you got it wrong as how everyone knows bolt weapons go pop and not pew.. duh!

lol. I should so add myself. Hold on.



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Done.

Mother of God.... its, its beautiful

pretre wrote:

warboss wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

That picture is fake! I knows because it should read

In the GrimDarkness there are only skulls xD

LunaHound wrote:

pretre wrote:

warboss wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Edit: If true, as he says we should get pics soon

Perhaps a hand drawn sketch will suffice! If its good enough for BoW, it's good enough for anyone else!

I have seen the box set! Here is my sketch:

That picture is fake! I knows because it should read

In the GrimDarkness there are only skulls xD

I really like the new art direction they're taking the game!

The realism is eye-scorching.

Normaly, my local store does a pre-order pool at least 2 weeks before the pre-release date, and this time... nada. The employee who's in charge told me that we'd have to wait for White Dwarf to show it, because he "still doesn't know its coming out in September."

Adam LongWalker wrote:Again does anyone know what the prices are going to be?

Are we looking at +100 US dollars for single faction starter box?

I sure hope not.

My guess is $115, that's a popular price for GW boxes these days.

Warseer.

Brometheus wrote:

Warseer.

Shut up and take my money.

From Warseer user chaosspring000 (link)

I. Must. Have. Those. Cultists!

HERE

SickSix wrote:http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?343627-Official-Warseer-6th-Ed-Starter-Set-Thread-(Summary-in-first-post)&p=6378297&viewfull=1#post6378297

Link for the lazy.

And someone should tell the guy who took the photos that he's not going to get any new releases on time for the next 6th months. Y'know, if they could ever find out who he is or where he is.

The cultists have a distinct Splinter Cell vibe. They look more high-tech than I expected, which is VERY cool.

Someone wake up the OP and tell him to update te first post.

Ooooh wow. I was expected nice stuff for Chaos, but I was not prepared for this level of awesomeness. Really hoping the dread/hell brute thing is is as cool as this stuff!

Also, if these are snap fit, starter models, what awesomeness is in store for the actual Chaos kits coming with the codex?! Can't wait!

Finally! Thank you all, and at Warseer for answering my plea. Now, how do I go about selling my soul for the cash to purchase said starter set?

Eh I got to be honest. I'm not diggin the weirdo winged helmet. Is that supposed to be the limited edition model or something else.

It's likely the captain. And I like every single thing in those photos. So pretty!!!!!

Cantwaitcantwaitcantwait!

Yup I'm getting one, who wants to trade Chaos for DA straight across? To clarify I want the DA.

Dark angel character looks a bit meh IMO, bit too high elves for my liking.
The Libby looks good though.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:Yup I'm getting one, who wants to trade Chaos for DA straight across? To clarify I want the DA.

I'm your huckleberry.


Edit: Actually, I suppose it would be best to wait until we see full pics, price and contents before arranging any sort of trade agreements. So how about, I will most likely have no need for Dark Angels, so once all the pics are out, I will probably be looking to trade them off for the chaos stuff and make a decision once I get a proper look at the contents.

Wow...just wow

Whenever gw do something to annoy me, they then pull something like this out the bag

Dont play DA or chaos but will pick one up none the less

I am buying at least 10 boxes. I AM NOT JOKING.

I am so excited.

i will be happy with 2-3

Good thing I waited! almost bought fantasy army xD

I want that libby!

Nice of them to include a model that you could convert into Cypher in five seconds.

I just sold almost all my 40k minis and now I want them all back again. That dark little seed has dug itself so deep in 20 years.

Those are great looking minis. I always buy at least one starter set. Looks like I might buy two this time: one in English and one in German.

I especially like the cultists and the CSM. They look less cartoony now.

I can tell the detail level is astounding, but not much else. Hellbrute is on a 40mm?

Ooh... nice.

This is brutally stupid. The figures get better and better yet they want to keep them hidden LONGER AND LONGER. Soooo why not let people see them ASAP to generate interest?

Derp.

Moopy wrote:Ooh... nice.

This is brutally stupid. The figures get better and better yet they want to keep them hidden LONGER AND LONGER. Soooo why not let people see them ASAP to generate interest?

Derp.

Because they believe that they will be losing money doying so, like, if i would buy any more marines after a 6th edition BRB coming out...

Sweet baby James, those are beautiful. Look at the cultist! My word, I will have all of those cultists, please, at least 100.

Background to those figures looks very similar to that of white dwarf, probably a fair assumption that the images came from there.

The cultist doesn't really feel chaosy to me. Nice for Necromunda tho.

lord_blackfang wrote:The cultist doesn't really feel chaosy to me. Nice for Necromunda tho.

I might have some chaos vehicle accessory sprues lying around if you feel you need to glue spikes all over them to unleash their true chaoticnessss.

plastictrees wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:The cultist doesn't really feel chaosy to me. Nice for Necromunda tho.

I might have some chaos vehicle accessory sprues lying around if you feel you need to glue spikes all over them to unleash their true chaoticnessss.

The snark kind of ruins your overall point.

For what it's worth though, I agree with lord_blackfang. They look like they would fit better in a Dark Eldar army than a Chaos army--however that is, of course, subject to change in direction for Chaos.

I'm cautiously going to wait for photos of the Deathwing models before I decide on this set. If the Deathwing models are awesome?
Well then hello "Dark Vengeance".

If not? Money to go towards Infinity!

Starfarer wrote:

KalashnikovMarine wrote:Yup I'm getting one, who wants to trade Chaos for DA straight across? To clarify I want the DA.

I'm your huckleberry.


Edit: Actually, I suppose it would be best to wait until we see full pics, price and contents before arranging any sort of trade agreements. So how about, I will most likely have no need for Dark Angels, so once all the pics are out, I will probably be looking to trade them off for the chaos stuff and make a decision once I get a proper look at the contents.

PM sent Tovarich

Kanluwen wrote:
For what it's worth though, I agree with lord_blackfang. They look like they would fit better in a Dark Eldar army than a Chaos army--however that is, of course, subject to change in direction for Chaos.

I think the color palette is what gives the model a Dark Eldar vibe. Might also be that they used the same sculptor.

I do hope that some of the cultists have faces that look less Nurgle so that there is some variety. Plastic models will be easy to convert though.

JB wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
For what it's worth though, I agree with lord_blackfang. They look like they would fit better in a Dark Eldar army than a Chaos army--however that is, of course, subject to change in direction for Chaos.

I think the color palette is what gives the model a Dark Eldar vibe. Might also be that they used the same sculptor.

I do hope that some of the cultists have faces that look less Nurgle so that there is some variety. Plastic models will be easy to convert though.

I did consider that a bit, JB...but what struck me as making it look Dark Eldar instead of a lowly footsoldier of Chaos is just how clean he looks.

Cant you just picture it in more Chaosy color? Aslong as the sculpt is fine. which it is.

Kanluwen wrote:
The snark kind of ruins your overall point.

What overall point? That was all snark.

Wow! 100% behind the more elaborate CSM/DA looks!

For once the Chaos Marines look like more than just spikey marines. Quite impressive. Would be cool if it gave you the option to build an army around a fallen Inquisitor... (just so I can give my Inquisitor a little well deserved love)

Kanluwen wrote:

JB wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
For what it's worth though, I agree with lord_blackfang. They look like they would fit better in a Dark Eldar army than a Chaos army--however that is, of course, subject to change in direction for Chaos.

I think the color palette is what gives the model a Dark Eldar vibe. Might also be that they used the same sculptor.

I do hope that some of the cultists have faces that look less Nurgle so that there is some variety. Plastic models will be easy to convert though.

I did consider that a bit, JB...but what struck me as making it look Dark Eldar instead of a lowly footsoldier of Chaos is just how clean he looks.

It could be that the scenario for the starter set could explain why they are not more "chaosy/ chaotic". It could be they are heading for a Blood Pact/ Sons of Sek uniform vibe. I view cultists as people capable of functioning inside the Imperium (holding down day jobs) until the time comes for them to welcome their new Chaos overlords. Its after that they will start overtly smelling of blood, displaying ritual scars or, please no, wearing skirts and pointy hats!

I do know that I have a use for those 30 unmade cadians I have, and it will involve removing any imperial symbols and working on green stuff skills to give them grotesque masks.

I'd like to see the rest of the cultists. The one they have there looks like a great model to use for Necromunda.

And Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader/Black Crusade/Deathwatch/Only War. Everything really.

They're fantastic!

Brometheus wrote:

Warseer.

Wings, wings, and more wings...

Dammit, just take my money!

Mmmmm...plaastiic... ...Me...waants...one!

Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st^^

I'm really interested in the Hellbrute now, the looks of those models suggest one awesome model.

Now to find people in my gaming club to take the DA stuff of my hands

Malthor wrote:Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st^^

I'm really interested in the Hellbrute now, the looks of those models suggest one awesome model.

Now to find people in my gaming club to take the DA stuff of my hands

But the release date is 25th August....isn't it? Or is that just the White Dwarf sneaky peeky thingy?

Me wants chaosssssss...... Gimme ze cultistssssss!!!! NOOWWWWW!!!!

Zog me, they look great! Looking forward to seeing more. Now would also be a good time to be starting an army...
Really liking the Librarian the most though.

Tappers wrote:

Malthor wrote:Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st^^

I'm really interested in the Hellbrute now, the looks of those models suggest one awesome model.

Now to find people in my gaming club to take the DA stuff of my hands

But the release date is 25th August....isn't it? Or is that just the White Dwarf sneaky peeky thingy?

I think 25th August is the date you can advance order it.

Tappers wrote:

Malthor wrote:Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st^^

I'm really interested in the Hellbrute now, the looks of those models suggest one awesome model.

Now to find people in my gaming club to take the DA stuff of my hands

But the release date is 25th August....isn't it? Or is that just the White Dwarf sneaky peeky thingy?

The normal MO at the moment suggests that on August 25 the preorders are possible and the box comes out on September 1st(which would be convenient for me since I won't get my paycheck till then )

Damn you GW, you blew it up.. and now I'm going to have to spend monies to own it all.

Awesome models, the cultists could be amazing, and will fit right in with the Traitor Guard I started a while back for fun.

Tappers wrote:

Malthor wrote:Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st^^

I'm really interested in the Hellbrute now, the looks of those models suggest one awesome model.

Now to find people in my gaming club to take the DA stuff of my hands

But the release date is 25th August....isn't it? Or is that just the White Dwarf sneaky peeky thingy?

Sneak Peak/Preorder date is 25th.
Release is 1st of September

Edit: Got ninja'd ... several times.

Holy feth. I need several boxes. Damnit GW. First the nurgle plastics, now this. My wallet needs a rest.

A million disgruntled fans cried out for the return of the DARK ANGLES, YES ANGLES!

Not a DA fan myself, but they look ok, if a little ott on the wings, but better than skulls i guess

Now the CSM, i'm liking, so much so, I may have to deviate from my normal Nurgle joybox and get me another force

OH my! O.O those pictures have just made my day!

Anyone else get the vibe that the librarian is saying 'come at me bro' morphius style?

Honestly, I think it's worth it just for the badassery of the Chosen...

I just really hope these models are any indication of what the rest of the new releases will look like!

If the rest of the new csm models look this awesome.. I'm gonna have to spend some cash on a new army

Its, its..........beautiful. Those chaos are just, AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH take my money for just letting me look at those godly creations.

Hehe for a second there I thought the chaos with the LC's was the hellbrute

I think I will take some CSM to my local GW today, suddenly I feel motivated again to search a new colour scheme for them^^

I somehow knew the Chosen would be Space Hulk-esque in the amount of detail and blind on them. I'm not disappointed.

So who here doesn't want Cultists and wants to give sell them to me?

Never thought I would say this but since the DA characters look amazing, I may just also do a DA army.

I will definitely be looking for those DA on ebay. The minis are great apart from the winged helmet, but that should be easy enough to fix. Interested to see how the rest of the DA shape up. The Chaos look great too, for heretics.

It's looking like a Space Hulk quality level. Very possibly I'll be in!

Wow.....not what I was expecting. This blows AOBR out of the water and into space.

GW, I just got into infinity. Don't do this to me, not now.
[looks like my FLGS is going to be making some money off of me]

Indeed, I have changed my mind on the starter because of it- the models are very detailed and definitely not what I expected after AOBR.

Gleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Don't you start singing...

I won't, but I'll say this instead :3

These look fantastic, I'm hoping to be able to turn the cultists into IG without having to shave every inch to take icons and spikes off. Failing that I'll just have to start a chaos force too.

I'll be buying the set and keeping it all. And will probably start a force for both factions as the models are superb. The only drawback is that I already have so much to paint!

Should be easy enough to turn the cultists into savlar chem dogs

Neat models.

Excited to say the least!

It's basically the level of Space Hulk detail.

I love that CSM now look as baroque and grim as their artwork does. That's something incredible.

The cultist gives me mixed feelings... It's a perfect Vraks styled traitor guardsman, but NOT a cultist - I imagined them having robes and masks as the old minis had... Still, I'll certainly use these, but most likely in my Savlar IG army, not Chaos

DA look a bit boring and over the top with wings. But I like the Librarian's pose.

Keep in mind we've only seen one of them. He is very "Vraks Militia", but for all we know their squad leaders are decked out in the full red robes/pointy had gear, or that's just the more disciplined rifle group, and the pistols/CCW group are raving lunatic 'proper' cultists.

The stuff looks really nice, can't wait to see the rest.

I hope it's just the picture, but the wings on the DA Captain helmet look really flat, almost like plasticard flat.

Someone needs to get pictures of the Hell Brute and Deathwing, stat!

I'm crossing my fingers the boxed set is not in the realm of a Space Hulk pricing....

Brometheus wrote:

Warseer.

Really cool but that's a lot of robe. Even for DA.

Librarian model is for me so far.

Is it just me or do chaos look like chaos.

Wow no longer will they be marines with spikes

This needs a "yo dawg! We heard you like wings......" meme

Tech Guard wrote:GW, I just got into infinity. Don't do this to me, not now.
[looks like my FLGS is going to be making some money off of me]

I just bought my Infinity army... looks like I'm buying this too

Oh well, swap my Chaos for someone else's DA, buy a Dreadnought and maybe a Devastator squad and I can call my detachment of the Emperor's Angels good, give me a nice smaller army to play with and allies for my Guard and ladies.


...and I just want to paint them.

I am such a sucker XD

DEFINITELY doing Chaos Space Marines next. SO awesome!

Now looking for a partner to take away my DA and give me MOAR CHAOS.

We are building a new 40K INTRO TABLE!!! We are inviting everyone to come to the unveiling of the completed and ready to use table on Friday, August 24th at 7pm! The theme of the table is a secret but it will be very cool!

So the Chicago BB posted this to its facebook page. Not really important now since we all now know.

Pics of the new minis look good. I cant wait to get my grubby little paws on them.

This set does indeed look like it might just be awesome. Only thing is, we'll probably see people starting Chaos armies all over the place - which is fine, of course, just that I'm gonna look like a bandwagon-jumper now. I've already started a mono-Khorne CSM/Daemons army over the last month or so!

WarOne wrote:Now looking for a partner to take away my DA and give me MOAR CHAOS.

There's a lot of people doing that type of trading, sounds like it needs a thread almost XD

Okay, call me crazy, but this kinda looks like a paper cut-out propped up by a regular Marine model with only the backpack visible.

I think the danger for me is either Aurelia and my tale of four two gamers will be back on the cards. Or worst case scenario is I do em both.

This box was always going to be a big issue, love both Dark Angels and CSM forces.

This might convince me to go from guard to chaos....

Albatross wrote: I've already started a mono-Khorne CSM/Daemons army over the last month or so!

It definitely looks like these new CSM could be perfect for making a Khorne list without having to overly use the berzerker kit. The models that we have seen are looking very Chaos Knight-ish, it would be
awesome if that aesthetic extends down the line to the troops and would fit into the new CSM box rumour.

I'm very excited for this, although i'm more looking forward to the actual codex release, Word Bearers a go go!

lord_blackfang wrote:

Okay, call me crazy, but this kinda looks like a paper cut-out propped up by a regular Marine model with only the backpack visible.

You're not crazy, that's what it looks like to me too.

I made the comment earlier that the wings on the helm look flat. Upon more inspection, the whole mini looks flat except the backpack.

Those wings should have ridges on them at the least.

Maybe someone in the art department was having a bad day.....??

On a side note, Deathwing Terminators are no longer available for purchase on the GW website.

Edit:

I think the wings look flat because it's a photo of a photo. Not reflecting on anything with the model itself.

regarding flat pics - to me it just looks like shine off a white dwarf page when the camera flashed to take the pic.

Extremelly pleased as I'v started a Chaos army this year. The Chosen are AWESOME.

There is definately something not right with the photo.... Only the backpack has any depth which wouldn't happen even if it was a photo of a photo...

Mick

It really could just be a bad cut & paste of another photo they had.

Say.... they had a photo of it for Box Art, but then something happened/whatever, so they had to reuse that photo for White Dwarf but the background didn't fit so they Copy & Pasted it and just failed at the attempt.

I'm sure the mini itself is totally amazing and will make an excellent addition to my Blood Angels, with some work.

However, that picture is all sorts of goofy.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Cantwaitcantwaitcantwait!

YA! Holy cow those minis look good, SPECIALLY Chaos! And those cultists!?!?!?! Great gungamunga!

Just to re-cap for everyone:

Liquidice281 wrote:Shut up and take my money.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I. Must. Have. Those. Cultists!

Starfarer wrote:Ooooh wow. I was expected nice stuff for Chaos, but I was not prepared for this level of awesomeness... Can't wait!

warpcrafter wrote:Now, how do I go about selling my soul for the cash to purchase said starter set?

Hulksmash wrote:So pretty!!!!!

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Cantwaitcantwaitcantwait!

KalashnikovMarine wrote:Yup I'm getting one...

tuiman wrote:Wow...just wow... Dont play DA or chaos but will pick one up none the less

JoeyFox wrote:I am buying at least 10 boxes. I AM NOT JOKING. I am so excited.

Anpu42 wrote:i will be happy with 2-3

plastictrees wrote:I just sold almost all my 40k minis and now I want them all back again.

JB wrote:I always buy at least one starter set. Looks like I might buy two this time...

Dr. Delorean wrote:Sweet baby James, those are beautiful. Look at the cultist! My word, I will have all of those cultists, please, at least 100.

spiralingcadaver wrote:Wow! 100% behind the more elaborate CSM/DA looks!

Liquidice281 wrote:Shut up and take my money.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Dammit, just take my money!

Tappers wrote:Me...waants...one!

Malthor wrote:Man, these pics really don't make it easier to wait till September 1st

avedominusnox wrote:Me wants chaosssssss...... Gimme ze cultistssssss!!!! NOOWWWWW!!!!

Ronin wrote:Zog me, they look great! Looking forward to seeing more. Now would also be a good time to be starting an army...

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Damn you GW, you blew it up.. and now I'm going to have to spend monies to own it all.

Ktulhut wrote:Holy feth. I need several boxes.

MetalOxide wrote:OH my! O.O those pictures have just made my day!

Robbietobbie wrote:I'm gonna have to spend some cash on a new army

unmercifulconker wrote:Its, its..........beautiful.

unmercifulconker wrote:I may just also do a DA army.

Erasoketa wrote:Very possibly I'll be in!

Ultrafool wrote:This blows AOBR out of the water and into space.

Melcavuk wrote:These look fantastic ... I'll just have to start a chaos force too.

Tech Guard wrote:looks like my FLGS is going to be making some money off of me

gregornet wrote:I'll be buying the set and keeping it all.

DRommel wrote:Excited to say the least!

KalashnikovMarine wrote:... looks like I'm buying this too

Scottywan82 wrote:DEFINITELY doing Chaos Space Marines next. SO awesome!

Nicorex wrote:Pics of the new minis look good. I cant wait to get my grubby little paws on them.

Medium of Death wrote:I'm very excited for this...

KingCracker wrote:YA! Holy cow those minis look good, SPECIALLY Chaos! And those cultists!?!?!?! Great gungamunga!

All of the above, my friends, from 6 badly photographed pictures of a magazine.

Now go on. Most of you know what point I'm trying to make here. Tell me I'm wrong.

The only question I have is how much effort it is going to take to file off the DA iconography. I don't begrudge them the time in the sun (and it make reduce some of the random ultramarine bashing) but from a practical standpoint, it might be useless to me personally.

Does look very nice though.

Just some Warseer quotes.

EvilMonkee wrote:Saw these in the flesh today - I was really impressed especially by the cultists, everything details wise I saw was sculpted on rather than being painted on. Also saw the release list for hte next year - a big Ork wave with the long awaited Buggies and Koptas as well as plastic Meganobz/Flashgitz!! Eldar as well with a whole plethora of stuff..but my source said expect those nxt year.

ThePope wrote:Stores have the box in, staffers have to paint the set in their own time at home or anywhere anyone can see not allowed to paint in the store unless its a private room. They have to paint it a set scheme that has been given in the box. Also the Ravenwing are SO dynamic its unreal, the bikers are pulling skids and shooting etc and the srg is leaning over chopping at stuff. All the characters have scenic bases.

So, I just got my 50 or so RT Era Chaos Marines out. They look nothing like Loyalists, they are weird, mean, and evil looking. These remind me of them so much.

Looks like I have about 10,000 points of Marnies to replace after looking at he beauty that is these thumbnails.

Magnificent, GW, well played. Now, just take my money......

Mick A wrote:There is definately something not right with the photo.... Only the backpack has any depth which wouldn't happen even if it was a photo of a photo...

Mick

The page is at an angle and the light is reflecting along a portion of it which makes it stand out from the rest.

The cultist model really reminds me of the militia zombie dudes from the game resident evil 4!

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:This needs a "yo dawg! We heard you like wings......" meme

You're welcome.

Begel Dverl wrote:

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:This needs a "yo dawg! We heard you like wings......" meme

You're welcome.

Haha nice one!

Looking pretty fine for a starter set! Cultists arms seem a bit long though? I got to get me this set now.

If nothing else im gonna pick up 2 or 3 of these and start the Alpha Legion army ive been wanting to do for ages. Hell those chaos models are so good they may even tempt my brother back into collecting again. I think hes been kinda looking for an excuse, and this may just provide said excuse.

MetalOxide wrote:The cultist model really reminds me of the militia zombie dudes from the game resident evil 4!

Oh yeah your totally right. Hmmmmmm a plan is begining to coalesce in the far reaches of my mind.

Begel Dverl wrote:

You're welcome.

Bravo.

Begel Dverl wrote:

You're welcome.

Now, to replace his backpack with a Sang. Guard jump pack and we will have achieved Maximum Wing™


[Edit] We need some pics of those DA Termies. My head is spinning thinking about what GW did with SH and what the DA ones would look like. However, I don't look forward to what they will cost on EBay. It might actually be cheaper to buy 2 Starter sets for the Terms than waiting for them to hit the secondary market. I don't play DA, but have always wanted a little 10 man Deathwing attachment. I'm thinking double FOC, Dante + Sangwing and Belial + Deathwing. 2+ for everyone!

I'm still sceptical regarding the rules but those models look incredibly nice to paint and play around win. I'll certainly be buying one box set.. not sure why i'd buy more. One is enough.. lmao...

Now, to replace his backpack with a Sang. Guard jump pack and we will have achieved Maximum Wing™

Nah, for "Maximum Wing" he'd need a sang. guard jumppack with sculpted DA icon on the main booster, the ultramarine honor guard helmet faceplate with the wings (maybe sculpt a sword down the middle), and some kind of wing motif on the hilt of the power weapon. Haha!

I hope we get more leaks, I'm so pumped. I cannot imagine how cool the chaplain will look, and if the bikes are indeed posed dynamically- I may need a change of pants.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wro... You're wr... ghh... Wron... Wr... You're not rig... nhhh... You're mistak...

Feth.

I give up.

The_Chaplain wrote:

Now, to replace his backpack with a Sang. Guard jump pack and we will have achieved Maximum Wing™

Nah, for "Maximum Wing" he'd need a sang. guard jumppack with sculpted DA icon on the main booster, the ultramarine honor guard helmet faceplate with the wings (maybe sculpt a sword down the middle), and some kind of wing motif on the hilt of the power weapon. Haha!

I hope we get more leaks, I'm so pumped. I cannot imagine how cool the chaplain will look, and if the bikes are indeed posed dynamically- I may need a change of pants.

Ave-Fething-Imperator to that! This is why GW needs to preview stuff. We're all literally salivating at this point, actual photos would only make it better.

Looks awesome; I'm just hoping they don't raise prices compared to aobr

I like these chaos minis... It's a distinctly chaos aesthetic that isn't just spikes... Yes yes there are spikes but compositionally a lot of good going on there... actual detail. Chaos armor and more organic sorts of detail... They capture something of a RT/2nd ed feel for me. If the stand alone kits are as good I maybe buying more than I planned.

The models are good. Now whats the price!! Also poster said new ork stuff? GW will get some money from me this year "dammit".

Albatross wrote:This set does indeed look like it might just be awesome. Only thing is, we'll probably see people starting Chaos armies all over the place - which is fine, of course, just that I'm gonna look like a bandwagon-jumper now. I've already started a mono-Khorne CSM/Daemons army over the last month or so!

I've been prepping everyone in the area for months now. "Listen here, I've played Chaos for 11 years now. I didn't leave their side during the travesty that is the current codex. When the new 'dex comes out, the first person to call me a bandwagon jumper is getting a swift kick in the groin. You have been warned."

Im going to unashamedly jump on the bandwagon as i do every time something shiny comes out.

If its cool, i will want it, to hell with what other people say

Something just popped into my mind: one of those chaos models (the one with the claws) really looks to be wearing termi armor: look at the legs and shoulderpads.

But there are no terminators listed in the Starter Box content leaks.

Now we have some options to explain that:

-It's simply scavenged pieces of the best armor the Chosen could find and acts like regular power armor.

-Chosen can take terminator armor upgrades for points.

-Chosen may be able to take termi-armored sergeants, or behave like Wolf Guard and be placed in other units.

-That picture may not be from the starter but depict another model from the new upcoming model line.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Im going to unashamedly jump on the bandwagon as i do every time something shiny comes out.

If its cool, i will want it, to hell with what other people say

You, me and half the community I think.

Anpu42 wrote:

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Im going to unashamedly jump on the bandwagon as i do every time something shiny comes out.

If its cool, i will want it, to hell with what other people say

You, me and half the community I think.

Me for sure, I will happily take crap for coveting these awesome new DA models.

Sephyr wrote:
Something just popped into my mind: one of those chaos models (the one with the claws) really looks to be wearing termi armor: look at the legs and shoulderpads.

But there are no terminators listed in the Starter Box content leaks.

Now we have some options to explain that:

-It's simply scavenged pieces of the best armor the Chosen could find and acts like regular power armor.

-Chosen can take terminator armor upgrades for points.

-Chosen may be able to take termi-armored sergeants, or behave like Wolf Guard and be placed in other units.

-That picture may not be from the starter but depict another model from the new upcoming model line.

Yeah it could be that. OR it could just be the hell brute.

If its not the hell brute then the death wing have some explaining to do.

Snrub wrote:

Sephyr wrote:
Something just popped into my mind: one of those chaos models (the one with the claws) really looks to be wearing termi armor: look at the legs and shoulderpads.

But there are no terminators listed in the Starter Box content leaks.

Now we have some options to explain that:

-It's simply scavenged pieces of the best armor the Chosen could find and acts like regular power armor.

-Chosen can take terminator armor upgrades for points.

-Chosen may be able to take termi-armored sergeants, or behave like Wolf Guard and be placed in other units.

-That picture may not be from the starter but depict another model from the new upcoming model line.

Yeah it could be that. OR it could just be the hell brute.

If its not the hell brute then the death wing have some explaining to do.

It's just a bigger than average dude. You can tell he's on a standard 25mm base and he has a backpack. Not a Terminator or a Dreadnought, he's just a really badass dude.

Damn you brother SRM i was just coming back to edit my post with a comment about the backpack and base. You've beaten me to it though.

Nothing overly thrilling but a GW teaser trailer of what we already knew (may have already been posted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71V-M85mfw&feature=player_embedded

Well then... my fledgling Chaos army is definitely going to need this set.

I think this makes the decision for me to start a DA army. Chaos marines are a plus because I know a dude that would buy them to start 40k.

Set coordinates for my debit card. Maximum warp.

Melcavuk wrote:Nothing overly thrilling but a GW teaser trailer of what we already knew (may have already been posted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71V-M85mfw&feature=player_embedded

But if you have a trade account...no further discussion!

The Chaos Marines look more like Chaos Warriors...

HOLLLLYYYY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII


Yeah brb buying like 20 of these.

It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Its obvious. This summer "Vengeance is coming" but won't actually arrive until Autumn.

Then surely shouldn't it be "Vengeance is running late?"

Summer "Vengeance is coming", Autumn "Vengeance is here", Winter "Vengeance has been"

Seriously though, as a fully formed adult who, by dint of the fact he participates in a hobby that requires substantial focus and concentration in a number of its aspects, has a reasonable attention span, how poorly thought out does a teaser trailer for a product I'm interested in have to be that I can't give it more attention than your average tv advert?

So much awesome in those pics, that Chaos Lord, is so awesome!

I am so exited for those chaos models.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:This is why GW needs to preview stuff. We're all literally salivating at this point, actual photos would only make it better.

You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money. The level of excitement over these models, they want that to peak at the exact moment at which you are physically able to hand over your cash, either to pre-order or buy from the stores.

If these pictures came out a month ago, with the tag line "Yours to own from September 1st 2012!!" the level of excitement when the pictures came out would be amazing... however, by the time a month had passed and the time actually came around to then hand over cash, a few people would have gotten over their original hysteria and calmed down and realised that they would in fact rather eat real food and pay their bills than by plastic men, and so they'd not buy the set, or they'd tame down their initial gut instinct to buy three boxes and only buy one.

GW are relying on your irrational over-excitement to make you buy more stuff than you can really afford, so they need you to be ridiculously excited at exactly the time when things go on sale. Keeping everything a massive secret does that for them far better than good quality pre-release pictures do.

Sucks to be us!!

Damn their financial sense, I want to see the pretty models, and I want to buy them now!!

It's gonna be great due to the fact I can just convert the DA into Chaos Marines.

blood reaper wrote:It's gonna be great due to the fact I can just convert the DA into Chaos Marines.

Or you can trade the DA off to DA players who don't want the Chaos Marines.

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

His Master's Voice wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wro... You're wr... ghh... Wron... Wr... You're not rig... nhhh... You're mistak...

Feth.

I give up.

Or is it because its more than seven days before the date you've decided to tell him he's wrong and you can't discuss it yet?

Where is the warehouse in Memphis?

I just happen to be driving through Memphis on Sunday.

Just sayin'......

Not overly sold on these. Need to see better pics perhaps. The cultist looks pretty cool, but will probably pick these up on ebay.

Loving the chaos cultists. That is an amazing lookin model. SWEET>

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

You disagree that a gap between the first full and good quality pictures of what was to be released and the actual date of release would reduce the number of impulse sales on the opening weekend??

So as far as that vid goes in relation to the contents what are we thinking? Sequel to the Vraks campaign maybe? Matt Ward fan fic made manifest? (Wait no nvm, no glorious Ultramarines and no SoB getting mutilated and put in their place.) Or just a random excuse for the DA to hunt some fallen.

Melcavuk wrote:Summer "Vengeance is coming", Autumn "Vengeance is here", Winter "Vengeance has been"

Spring 2013 "Vengeance is gone. In the grim darkness of the far future their is now only reconciliation!"

Melcavuk wrote:Summer "Vengeance is coming", Autumn "Vengeance is here", Winter "Vengeance has been"

I think "Vengeance is Begin to Grow" pretty much covers it all...

T

Multiple meme fail edits...

wheres this chaplain

Yeah, I actually laughed at the video it was so uninformative. I was prepared for a bad teaser but nothing on that scale!

JB wrote:
I think the color palette is what gives the model a Dark Eldar vibe. Might also be that they used the same sculptor.

Took the photo and lightened it up a bit in Photoshop and it looks like he is painted black with very hot white highlights, like he is wearing shiny leather clothing. Pic below.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

Wings, wings, and more wings...

Right down to the winged codpiece...

A thousand geeks cried out for Vengeance!

Models look great even in these grainy photos. Can't wait to see them in the flesh.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

Really? Are you serious, or is my sarcasm meter just broken? I think he explained it rather precisely, but I'll give it a shot too.

You quoted almost three dozen people (yourself included) who, at the moment of first sight, wanted to drop the ~$100 without further question. If the first time you had seen those pics was right next to the "Pre-Order" button on the GW website, GW would have their three grand in pocket instantly. Instead, the pre-order doesn't go up until next Saturday, but you've seen the pics now.

If even one of those people changes his mind between now and Saturday, then GW has lost money. That means "showing things at the last minute" makes more money than "showing things early". When you're a corporation, and you find out that X makes more money, then that is what you are supposed to do.

They have confirmed this with their own sales figures. They printed an official statement of exactly that in their annual financial report, which means unless you believe they have committed the actual crime of defrauding investors (as opposed to merely figuratively robbing us blind), then you have to accept it as fact. You don't have to like it - I'm sure none of us do. But, unfortunately, they are right on this one.

So, I'm sorry, but... you're wrong.

- H8

Faeit via (A Must Remain Anonymous Source) wrote:
The hell brute is amazing and not in fact a dreadnought! It looks like a bloated dread from the front with a nasty mini defiler gauntlet ending in a wicked hand / claw. It appears to have some kind of cannon for the right hand. Not actually sure if it's a multi melta yet. Any rumors the hell brute is a dreadnought are immediately put to bed by looking at its back. The back is all daemon flesh. the face of the brute is a giant cluster of horns with a gaping toothy maw in the middle opening to reveal a screaming skull warped in agony.

The chaos lord/ sorcerer in power armor has a wicked set of horns and a plasma pistol and daemon sword as big as he is. It's seriously nemesis force sword big.

The 6 chosen have bolters and lightning claw dude and power weapon guy as previously mentioned by other sources. They look right out of the designs for the space marine video game. Not a lot of spikes but a ton of detail on the armor.

The set comprises of:
Chaos (no god specific iconography thus far on models but it does reek of khorne)
-chaos lord
-6 chosen
-18 cultists
- hell brute

Dark angels
-company master
-chaplain
-librarian
-10 man full plasma option tac squad
-5 man terminator squad
-3 bikers

I also got to see the terminators. The captain has wings coming out of the top of his armor.

But between then and now I could have spent my money on several other things - which would also lose GW money.

alphaecho wrote:

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Its obvious. This summer "Vengeance is coming" but won't actually arrive until Autumn.

If it's before the equinox, it's still summer.

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Meh, that video could have given you a free puppy and a hummer and you still would have complained about it.

Hatemonger wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

Really? Are you serious, or is my sarcasm meter just broken? I think he explained it rather precisely, but I'll give it a shot too.

You quoted almost three dozen people (yourself included) who, at the moment of first sight, wanted to drop the ~$100 without further question. If the first time you had seen those pics was right next to the "Pre-Order" button on the GW website, GW would have their three grand in pocket instantly. Instead, the pre-order doesn't go up until next Saturday, but you've seen the pics now.

If even one of those people changes his mind between now and Saturday, then GW has lost money. That means "showing things at the last minute" makes more money than "showing things early". When you're a corporation, and you find out that X makes more money, then that is what you are supposed to do.

Honestly, BOTH of you are being completely unscientific about it and shouldn't be drawing any marketing strategy conclusions about some words typed by a handful of people on an electronic message board.

They have confirmed this with their own sales figures. They printed an official statement of exactly that in their annual financial report, which means unless you believe they have committed the actual crime of defrauding investors (as opposed to merely figuratively robbing us blind), then you have to accept it as fact. You don't have to like it - I'm sure none of us do. But, unfortunately, they are right on this one.

I don't even know where to start with that other than to say neither you nor GW can really know whether or not they would have done better with a different strategy -- whatever that might be.


Back OT, if we see poses like that in the eventual cultist boxed set (assuming cultists don't become the new deffkoptas), they'll work pretty well for plague zombies. What's pictured already looks a little "shambly." They also don't look completely overloaded in chaos symbols, which is a positive if the Genestealer Cult rumors come true. Of course, it's a grainy pic of one model.

Hatemonger wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

Really? Are you serious, or is my sarcasm meter just broken? I think he explained it rather precisely, but I'll give it a shot too.

You quoted almost three dozen people (yourself included) who, at the moment of first sight, wanted to drop the ~$100 without further question. If the first time you had seen those pics was right next to the "Pre-Order" button on the GW website, GW would have their three grand in pocket instantly. Instead, the pre-order doesn't go up until next Saturday, but you've seen the pics now.

If even one of those people changes his mind between now and Saturday, then GW has lost money. That means "showing things at the last minute" makes more money than "showing things early". When you're a corporation, and you find out that X makes more money, then that is what you are supposed to do.

They have confirmed this with their own sales figures. They printed an official statement of exactly that in their annual financial report, which means unless you believe they have committed the actual crime of defrauding investors (as opposed to merely figuratively robbing us blind), then you have to accept it as fact. You don't have to like it - I'm sure none of us do. But, unfortunately, they are right on this one.

So, I'm sorry, but... you're wrong.

- H8

Hey, I can do anecdotal evidence and hypothetical situations too!

Bobby plays 40k, and is interested in either DA or Chaos. But he doesn't have a clue when anything is coming out, because, let's face it, GW hasn't got the best track record when it comes to telling people anything.
So Bobby, not knowing that the shiny new starter set is coming out, uses the money that would have been put to that to buy something else instead. A few weeks later, when the set is released, Bobby's already spent the money he would have put aside for the starter set, and doesn't buy it.

Looks like GW lost some money right there.

pretre wrote:

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Meh, that video could have given you a free puppy and a hummer and you still would have complained about it.

Damn right!

I'm British.

We have Range Rovers.

OK, so Im glad I decided to back Dreamforge Games kickstarter instead of this. Not to excited about the DA SCs or the Hellbrute...just looks like a fancy CSM Term, but the other Chaos SCs...ill be tracking those 2 down on Ebay.

azreal13 wrote:

pretre wrote:

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Meh, that video could have given you a free puppy and a hummer and you still would have complained about it.

Damn right!

I'm British.

We have Range Rovers.

A Range Rover sounds like a lot of work and not all that pleasant.

bogalubov wrote:

azreal13 wrote:

pretre wrote:

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Meh, that video could have given you a free puppy and a hummer and you still would have complained about it.

Damn right!

I'm British.

We have Range Rovers.

A Range Rover sounds like a lot of work and not all that pleasant.

Yeah, that's the worst innuendo I've heard recently. Silly brits.

I will hold my excitement until I see a picture of the Chaplin. My local FLGS is setting up trades for two people to buy the box and split the contents, which means I need to find a way to make $60 FAST.

I'm glad to finally see some new chaos releases, it's been far to long in my opinion. I was expecting it to be CSM in this starter set and I'm pretty sure everyone new Space Marines would be the other army this time (again...)I was hoping for a new Chaos dreadnought model though, I would have to buy mine from FW because the GW version to be frank is hideous. I'll gladly take a Hellbrute so long as it isn't too expensive when it's released seperate.

I don't think this was directed for new beginners either, I mean anyone who really just now got into the hobby probably wouldn't know who the DA are. I'm annoyed by the fact that now there are going to be 4 different codexes for Space Marines, counting GK. Considering there are some armies that haven't had a new release in years. (Tau, and the Eldar haven't had very much attention either.)

gorgon wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

azreal13 wrote:It's telling that the quality of that video and it's information is so poor I actually managed to get distracted half way through!

Its obvious. This summer "Vengeance is coming" but won't actually arrive until Autumn.

If it's before the equinox, it's still summer.

Thank you.

Khorne's Herald wrote:I'm glad to finally see some new chaos releases, it's been far to long in my opinion. I was expecting it to be CSM in this starter set and I'm pretty sure everyone new Space Marines would be the other army this time (again...)I was hoping for a new Chaos dreadnought model though, I would have to buy mine from FW because the GW version to be frank is hideous. I'll gladly take a Hellbrute so long as it isn't too expensive when it's released seperate.

I don't think this was directed for new beginners either, I mean anyone who really just now got into the hobby probably wouldn't know who the DA are. I'm annoyed by the fact that now there are going to be 4 different codexes for Space Marines, counting GK. Considering there are some armies that haven't had a new release in years. (Tau, and the Eldar haven't had very much attention either.)

Is that copy pasted from every complaint about GW ever?

Regarding the dreadnought. I think there will be a new one when the Codex is released in October. The FW are nice looking though. A good way to bring iconography if you play a specific legion.

Khorne's Herald wrote: I'm annoyed by the fact that now there are going to be 4 different codexes for Space Marines, counting GK.

They passed four back in 3rd edition. Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Black Templars, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, and Ultrasmurf and friends.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

According to certain schools of financial thought, all of us are essentially vacant morons with no capacity for higher reasoning who will buy whatever we are told to buy providing the marketing material is carefully constructed and controlled in order to exploit certain psychological qualities. Followers of said school think that there is essentially no limit on how much a person will spend on an "impulse" purchase other than how much money they have in their account at the time. These people are, typically, also the kind of people who think that nothing matters except the next Quarterly result, that any actions taken in the context of capitalism are amoral despite them being considered immensely unethical in any other context, and that the purpose of a business is to funnel profits into the pockets of the board until it goes under, just in time for their old chums from Eton to swoop in with their "asset management" company to pick the bones clean.

As you can probably tell, I am unconvinced by any of the aforementioned positions

As to the piccies, I am actually stunned, the detail and posing is lovely, and despite the fact it would have been cool to have proper robed Chaos Cultists, I think these Cultists(if they all follow a similar aesthetic) are a masterstroke by GW. If someone really wants robed Cultists, there are any number of conversion options available, and actual models would have had a fairly limited applicability, but these chaps sit just at the point that you can use them for just about anything. Stock, with no modification, you can have; Cultists, Traitor Guard, Savlar Chem Dogs, Penal Legion, and Vraksian Renegades. With a simple head- and weapon-swap, you have Catachans that put the old Ramboguard to shame. When you add green stuff into the equation, these minis have massive potential; limiting the Melta-dread and Deffkoptas to the last starter set sold tons to Marine players and Orks, but these cultists, thanks to the Allies rules and their characterful-yet-broadly-applicable aesthetic, will sell to Chaos Marine, Traitor Guard, Imperial Guard, and Space Marine players of almost any stripe.

If all the Marine minis are as amazing as these few examples, I'm going to feel really bad chopping them up for Artscale-fodder, I might even keep one or two back just to enjoy painting them at some point.

Now, more piccehs! I want to see these "action-pose" Ravenwing, and if the Deathwing minis have new poses I can use.

Happygrunt wrote:I will hold my excitement until I see a picture of the Chaplin. My local GW is setting up trades for two people to buy the box and split the contents, which means I need to find a way to make $60 FAST.

Don't post the name of the store.

They would be losing 1 sale for every 2 they could have made instead of the 2 they would not get if people didn't split 1 because each person couldn't buy 1.

I don't even want to know what kind of GW Wrath that would bring.

Still can't believe there's no photos of Terms, Bikers, or Brute yet. Probably the 3 most talked about minis!

Yodhrin wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

According to certain schools of financial thought, all of us are essentially vacant morons...

----[clever and insightful observations about corporate malfeasance]----

As you can probably tell, I am unconvinced by any of the aforementioned positions

BEST POST I HAVE SEEN IN MONTHS.

OT: I am super excited about the new stuff. I had faith that GW would come through, what with the high-quality of Space Hulk and Island of Blood ("Yawnfleet had nice minis, even if it was a terrible idea to invest resources in it, in light of other possibilities)

I have been saving up for some time, and also I PLAN TO TRADE MY DARK ANGELS TO SOMEONE FOR THEIR CHAOS STUFF I really like everythign I've seen so far, and have plans for my heretics (I'm looking at you, Pupperts War )

-C6

Kickass chaplain;

http://img.tapatalk.com/d5cde0bf-884f-458c.jpg

How hard is it to put img tags on?

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

gahhhhhhh.......

Well played GW.

[Edit] Reposted image to B&C in the DA forum.

I want the backpack, if nothing else.

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCP85FngzE

YYYYYEEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!

Dat chaplain

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

I know, but it's been since removed from other sites, so I expect them to do the same here. Maybe links have a better chance of staying?

Or i'm really lazy. Either way great model!

Melcavuk wrote:Nothing overly thrilling but a GW teaser trailer of what we already knew (may have already been posted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71V-M85mfw&feature=player_embedded

Wow, not even a fleeting glimpse of concept/cover art, minis, nothing. I literally could have made that video. This is what they call "marketing?"


Automatically Appended Next Post:

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

WOW.

I am now reconsidering trading away my entire DA set of minis for a second CSM set...

Teaser.

catharsix wrote:

Melcavuk wrote:Nothing overly thrilling but a GW teaser trailer of what we already knew (may have already been posted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71V-M85mfw&feature=player_embedded

Wow, not even a fleeting glimpse of concept/cover art, minis, nothing. I literally could have made that video. This is what they call "marketing?"

This is what's called a "teaser".

I'm not going to get into it again as I have before, but put simply:
Teasers aren't there to provide a synopsis like an actual trailer is. They're there to "tease", to pique interest, and give an idea when to look for more information.
It does that fairly well--at least if you look at it from the POV of someone who does not frequent sites like Dakka.

Anyways: I like the Chaplain. Can't wait to see the Deathwing now...

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

So awesome, honestly, this will make a perfect Dark Apostle.

Yeah...I have all the Space Hulk minis and they are amazing. These are incredible along the same lines. I've been considering purchasing this box for just the rulebook and either selling off the minis or just painting them up for some fun allies or something. But if both ranges look anything like what I've seen so far, I would like to expand both armies to a respectable force size.

Do we have any idea how limited that Chaplain is? I was planning on picking the set up a few weeks down the road, but if it's super limited, I'll have to make sure to preorder next week.

gregornet wrote:Yeah...I have all the Space Hulk minis and they are amazing. I've been considering purchasing this box for just the rulebook and either selling off the minis or just painting them up for some fun allies or something. But if both ranges look anything like what I've seen so far, I would like to expand both armies to a respectable force size.

Do we have any idea how limited that Chaplain is? I was planning on picking the set up a few weeks down the road, but if it's super limited, I'll have to make sure to preorder next week.

Shame the Chaplain is limited.

http://imgur.com/a/eZEVT#A3PsA

The gates are open!

midget_overlord wrote:http://imgur.com/a/eZEVT#A3PsA

The gates are open!

blood reaper wrote:

pretre wrote:

How hard is it to put img tags on?

So awesome, honestly, this will make a perfect Dark Apostle.

Perhaps, the only annoying part will be the shoulder pads.

FFS. How hard are img tags?

Woopsydaisy, clicked post new instead of edit! Anyway....

GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

That hellbrute...

*Edit nerfed by ninjas.

Not sure what I think about the Hellbrute yet.

Otherwise, it all looks excellent, except for the DA tac marines, who are particularly underwhelming considering how excellent the rest of the set looks.

modelled chapter symbols

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....

Shadox wrote:modelled chapter symbols

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....

File?

It's not too hard for the Tactical Marines, but the rest will be pretty impossible by the looks of it.

Shadox wrote:modelled chapter symbols

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....

GW will gladly sell you files at 300% mark-up.

For the work blocked...









The cultists are a funny lot, not what I'd imagine as cultists but they'd many a great Necromunda gang or something. The Marines are all top stuff. I've little interest in the game, but I would like the plastics out the box.

Not too sure about the Cultist Champion at the top but the rest are great. Drum mags on autoguns. Gamers have been after that since Mark Gibbon's Delaque artwork.

I believe my DA models will be painted up as Fallen. One question, Emperor's Children were allowed to have Eagles but could other Legions have "wings"?

Yeah, not the first time I've filed off inappropriate details.

ARG! The Terms and Bikes aren't on there!!

/cry

The Hellbrute is definately interesting. The Chosen and what is there of the Cultists looks good.

Oh wow these are all superb. I take back my previous disappointment with the one Cultist, I love the rag-tag horde. It's settled! One box for Necromunda, one box for 40k!

Thanks, Howard!

tactical Marines are boring as usual

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE!

Those cultists!
Those HQs!
Those Chosen! They can easily be used as chaos lords/sorcerers imo!

alphaecho wrote:Not too sure about the Cultist Champion at the top but the rest are great. Drum mags on autoguns. Gamers have been after that since Mark Gibbon's Delaque artwork.

I believe my DA models will be painted up as Fallen. One question, Emperor's Children were allowed to have Eagles but could other Legions have "wings"?

Don't Fallen have partial "Winged" symbols?

TalonZahn wrote:ARG! The Terms and Bikes aren't on there!!

/cry

The Hellbrute is definately interesting. The Chosen and what is there of the Cultists looks good.

What if there are no terms or bikes?

Oh looh, Yeirl is going finaceats.

In other news:

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY FFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Impulse control is gone. Looks like I will split a preorder box for the Chaplin and have to pick up a second set just so I have all the models.

blood reaper wrote:

Shadox wrote:modelled chapter symbols

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....

File?

It's not too hard for the Tactical Marines, but the rest will be pretty impossible by the looks of it.

Sure it's possible, but why is it not like Black Reach? They could have saved me so much time

At least Chaos looks amazing

Holy crap... That Hellbrute... It's a lot better than I was expecting! It's got mutations, it's got Chaos, it's got massive weapons, and a loadout that's not terrible depending on its statline.. Even if it ends up being terrible, it looks like a terribly fun model to paint!

And the Chosen! So juicy! Perfect for squad leaders or Sorcerers or Lords! I can't wait to get a hold of them!

Only wish the Cultist page loaded fully. From what I can see though, everything is looking great! Hoods and masks and autoguns and everything! All that I was expecting and hoping for!

Edit: Woop, there's the full page, and still more of what I'm loving! Looking fantastic!

@drbored: Check Howard's post. He fixed it by photobucket'ing.

pretre wrote:What if there are no terms or bikes?

Despite the fact that every rumor includes them?

Many sad faces everywhere.

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:What if there are no terms or bikes?

Despite the fact that every rumor includes them?

Many sad faces everywhere.

Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

Three cheers for Howard then for showing off some of the best looking 40k models to date?

MUST. HAVE. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw.... anyboyd having anything about bikes and termies?

(Thx to all the rumour mongers! You're great guys!!)

blood reaper wrote:

alphaecho wrote:Not too sure about the Cultist Champion at the top but the rest are great. Drum mags on autoguns. Gamers have been after that since Mark Gibbon's Delaque artwork.

I believe my DA models will be painted up as Fallen. One question, Emperor's Children were allowed to have Eagles but could other Legions have "wings"?

Don't Fallen have partial "Winged" symbols?

I'm referring more to the chest armour than the Chapter/ legion symbol.. Pre-heresy it was an honour for the Emperor's Children. As these models just have wings rather than a full eagle, would painting them as Fallen go against that background?

Definite multi purchase, but the jury is still out on the brute. If the limited ed only has the chap then i think ill stick with the regular ed.

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Fafnir wrote:

Hatemonger wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

Really? Are you serious, or is my sarcasm meter just broken? I think he explained it rather precisely, but I'll give it a shot too.

You quoted almost three dozen people (yourself included) who, at the moment of first sight, wanted to drop the ~$100 without further question. If the first time you had seen those pics was right next to the "Pre-Order" button on the GW website, GW would have their three grand in pocket instantly. Instead, the pre-order doesn't go up until next Saturday, but you've seen the pics now.

If even one of those people changes his mind between now and Saturday, then GW has lost money. That means "showing things at the last minute" makes more money than "showing things early". When you're a corporation, and you find out that X makes more money, then that is what you are supposed to do.

They have confirmed this with their own sales figures. They printed an official statement of exactly that in their annual financial report, which means unless you believe they have committed the actual crime of defrauding investors (as opposed to merely figuratively robbing us blind), then you have to accept it as fact. You don't have to like it - I'm sure none of us do. But, unfortunately, they are right on this one.

So, I'm sorry, but... you're wrong.

- H8

Hey, I can do anecdotal evidence and hypothetical situations too!

Bobby plays 40k, and is interested in either DA or Chaos. But he doesn't have a clue when anything is coming out, because, let's face it, GW hasn't got the best track record when it comes to telling people anything.
So Bobby, not knowing that the shiny new starter set is coming out, uses the money that would have been put to that to buy something else instead. A few weeks later, when the set is released, Bobby's already spent the money he would have put aside for the starter set, and doesn't buy it.

Looks like GW lost some money right there.

Bobby still wants the starter set, saves his money and buys it a few weeks/months later, gw still records that as a profit for the year.

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

Happygrunt wrote:

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

Hellbrute is indeed pretty awesome. Cultists are for the most part pretty cool, but suffer from duplication. Grr...

pretre wrote:That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

If there's no Terms or Bikes..... I'm holding you directly responsible for jinxing it!

pretre wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

The quote in the OP implied that someone had seen them, so colour me confuzzled.

pretre wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

If there's no Terms or Bikes..... I'm holding you directly responsible for jinxing it!

Fair enough.

Oh wow these are pretty god-damned spanky. I only wanted the mini rulebook, but that all looks really nice.

Those cultists will grace a thousand necromunda tables before long.

Where do I sign over my money?

Kanluwen wrote:I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Heh. Very true. I guess we'll see soon.

pretre wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Heh. Very true. I guess we'll see soon.

As Talon said, I'm blaming you if we don't get them.

Should i add this to the Rumor Tracker too?

Pretre says no bikes or termies in starter set.



Automatically Appended Next Post:
It'll go nicely with my box art.

Kanluwen wrote:

pretre wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

TalonZahn wrote:

pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Plus, it is Dark Angels. I HIGHLY doubt GW would avoid everything that makes the DA unique in a box glorifying the Dark Angels. Ravenwing and Deathwing are as apart of the Dark Angels as the color green and robes.

Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

WOW! :O These are gorgeous! I am definitely going to get a starter set. If the new chaos release is anything like those models there, I know what my wages are going on...

I especially love the chosen!

Oops, wrong place... Well.... Sorta.

Brometheus wrote:At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

That's what I was thinking, either CSM are October or the people with white dwarf enjoy watching us suffer.

Those chosen look the absolute bees knees.

Yeah this is going to be hard to resist but at that price not that hard.

The chaplain too looks great.

But no, wouldn't blame anyone for getting it though.

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

I don't really see it...

Brometheus wrote:At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

More likely, the "updated" rules would be present in a campaign booklet for the starter box.

d-usa wrote:

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

I don't really see it...

The tunic is similar, but that is all I am getting.

Chaos lord.

My job here is done.

DakotaBlue wrote:

Chaos lord.

My job here is done.

You have a slight point, though several sword wielding power armoured figures have a similar stance.

Meh. Coincidence.

All I see is an enormous amount of Eyes.

Must.... Make.... Starter set... minis.... Thousand Sonsish.

As a side note those DA have sculpted on details!!!!! That I just would not have though GW would do tbh.

Good on them though, they do look better for it, and I suppose if it makes them more distinct from vanilla, if only from a visual perspective, that is good.

Might put off vanilla players though but I suppose if people want to expand their SM forces better to buy the battle force anyway. After all who doesn't have 10 million SMs lying around.

+1 to GW for taking the higher risk approach but one that actually makes more sense.

Has the price been posted anywhere yet?

No.

The person who took those WD pictures must know.

Look at the CSM horns on the Bolter toting chap... Rogue Trader CSM anyone?

TBD wrote:The person who took those WD pictures must know.

Well he hasn't told yet.

TBD wrote:The person who took those WD pictures must know.

GW have already "removed" him, he will no longer be a threat to the glory of GW.

TBD wrote:The person who took those WD pictures must know.

Do you really think that person is going to come forward. If they are inside GW, then they will lose their job without question. After that GW threat letter, I doubt anyone will want to come out.

Also, 3000 post on Dakka. I have been on here way to long...

Here's to 3000 more!

What interesting is that this is a British WD (see the £ next to the Finecast Models). Normally these leaks come from Denmark or Poland as they get their copies a week early. This is one very naughty individual.

http://imgur.com/dcwEG

From Reddit user Svanhvit, the Deathwing and Ravenwing will be making an appearance

Edit, seems I can't direct link imgur

Flashman wrote:What interesting is that this is a British WD (see the £ next to the Finecast Models). Normally these leaks come from Denmark or Poland.

Further cementing my theory this came from inside the company, hence why we probably wont get any more info.

TBD wrote:The person who took those WD pictures must know.

Depends where he lives, in Canada we don't get any prices in white dwarfs. There is still the disclaimer that says prices can change at any time, just no price at all.

I think It's the same printing as the US one, I guess they don't want us to see Canadian prices next to the US ones.

So awesome, they will make excellent Fallen Angels.

Hmm... attempt at images tags failed. But that would be Deathwing and Ravenwing models then

I'd have thought that the would have removed Assault On Black Reach by now.

Voodoo_Chile wrote:http://imgur.com/dcwEG

From Reddit user Svanhvit, the Deathwing and Ravenwing will be making an appearance

Edit, seems I can't direct link imgur

Looks like a negative mark against Petre!

Also, they look fantastic. SO EXCITED!

NICE DA Deathwing!

I do not play them, but I am happy for you guys.

Love the deathwing and the ravenwing.

Happygrunt wrote:

Voodoo_Chile wrote:http://imgur.com/dcwEG

From Reddit user Svanhvit, the Deathwing and Ravenwing will be making an appearance

Edit, seems I can't direct link imgur

Looks like a negative mark against Petre!

Also, they look fantastic. SO EXCITED!

Two negative marks, the box looks nothing like my 'sketch'.

Deathwing Allies here I come!

Those bikes will convert to BA nicely.

TalonZahn wrote:Deathwing Allies here I come!

Those bikes will convert to BA nicely.

Same thing I was thinking. My BA army is going to get quite a few new editions!

I spot a price tag of 85 euros - what's that in real money (and I don't mean $)

I like the Ravenwing alot!

However...I am supremely disappointed in the Deathwing.
There was so much potential for really making them unique, but as it stands only the Sergeant stands out--and I can make something similar using the dang banners from the Ravenwing Bike Upgrade Sprue right now!

$105 dollars US from 85 euros.

That Chain Fist

Am I the only one who looked at the cultists and screamed of a cheap way to field a Necromunda gang now? They are perfect!

pretre wrote:

TBD wrote:The person who took those WD pictures must know.

Well he hasn't told yet.

Shame on him!