And the Browns got what may be their only victory of the year.
Oh yeah, and the Steelers are 0-3.
What a weird start to the season.
The teams that are currently 0-3:
Steelers
Giants
Redskins
Vikings
Buccaneers
Jaguars
And honestly, the Vikings looked the best out of those teams...
And Cincy, you're forgetting that the Browns will probably gleam 1 win from Pittsburgh, and probably get the win against Jacksonville... We're looking at 3-13.
Note: This season is a success if we can go at least 6-10
Hows this for perspective on this week ...
QB Ratings:
Mike Vick - 49.4
Eli Manning - 49.0
Colin Kaepernick - 49.9
Damien Fleming - 65.8 (FAMU)
E.J. Hilliard - 69.6 (FIU)
They play the Rams on Thursday next... as bad as things are going for 49ers... after this last game the RAMS had in Dallas... looking to be an awful game by two bad teams now. ugh.
cincydooley wrote: Good call on the Browns picking up a win vs. Pittsburgh. The Steelers look just awful.
The start to the season makes that Kaepernick-Flacco "football horse" commercial look even more ridiculous than it already did. Amazing.
The past few seasons we've managed to take 1 out of 2 from the Steelers, which is surprising because I think we've gone 0-11 against the Ravens (probably soon to be 0-12), and probably closer to the Ravens record with the Bengals than vs the Steelers.
Would help if you put who they are playing as well...
But, without seeing any of that, My HOPE is New England goes down first....
But, reality I'd have to say, either KC, or NO.
KC is playing the Giants at Arrowhead...survey says they go 4-0
Either Miami or NO definitely will since they play each other, but it's a Monday game.
If AR dials up the same pass rush he used in Philly, Eli is in for a very bad day.
I think Miami has the advantage due to Mondays game being NO's first out of conference game this year.
Did anyone else think that fair catch kick at the end of the first half was kind of cool? It's too bad Jeff fisher didn't tell his return guy to let it go out of the end zone even though fisher knew the rule. If he had the rams would gotten the ball with 2 seconds or so left on the 39(?), spot of the kick. Which could have potentially allowed them to attempt a legitimate field goal attempt. Possibly making the game MUCH closer.
I love old antiquated rules like drop kicks, and fair catch kicks, and other such non sense.
Chancetragedy wrote: Did anyone else think that fair catch kick at the end of the first half was kind of cool? It's too bad Jeff fisher didn't tell his return guy to let it go out of the end zone even though fisher knew the rule. If he had the rams would gotten the ball with 2 seconds or so left on the 39(?), spot of the kick. Which could have potentially allowed them to attempt a legitimate field goal attempt. Possibly making the game MUCH closer.
I love old antiquated rules like drop kicks, and fair catch kicks, and other such non sense.
The best part, to me, is that brad nessler knew and called the rule before it happened. Made me really appreciate how me actually does know a gak ton about football and isn't simply a good announcing voice.
That's pretty to cool to hear Nessler already knew the rule.
And who else in the pickem league already misses confidence points? Because it's funny they were frustrating as hell last year but man just picking wins/losses is super bland and kinda boring. Next year my vote is going back to confidence points ;p
Chancetragedy wrote: That's pretty to cool to hear Nessler already knew the rule.
And who else in the pickem league already misses confidence points? Because it's funny they were frustrating as hell last year but man just picking wins/losses is super bland and kinda boring. Next year my vote is going back to confidence points ;p
Philly's defense has been looking like they couldn't stop a peewee team.
On the other side DRC has been getting away with pulling on Jacksons jersey, and Denver's o-line has been head bobbing all game.
Still this is all on the defense.... and a blocked punt just makes it uglier.
But hey if you picked Over they are well over the 51 that Vegas was giving.
helgrenze wrote: Philly's defense has been looking like they couldn't stop a peewee team.
On the other side DRC has been getting away with pulling on Jacksons jersey, and Denver's o-line has been head bobbing all game.
Still this is all on the defense.... and a blocked punt just makes it uglier.
But hey if you picked Over they are well over the 51 that Vegas was giving.
They turned it off in Ohio and switched to "a more competitive game"
Did Buttfumble 2 : The Son of Buttfumble really happen in the Jets game?
I saw the headline but the video won't play for me :(
Nvm : found the video. I don't think I've ever seen a QB try to do what he did at a pro level. I'd feel bad for Jets fans, if I wasn't already weeping over my man Flacco and his handful of interceptions.
Man this patriot offense is rough to watch. Can't wait till Gronk and Danny onthemendola get healthy. Thank god for a top 10 defense(say what you want stats don't lie) otherwise this team would be in tons of trouble.
Now they have wilfork and Dobson injured what a cluster. Womp womp.
Edit: because I couldn't wait 10 minutes I deserve the embarassment of my last statement.
I don't care if the Falcons win or lose, I just need Matt Ryan to put up another 10 points this game to make me feel okay about my fantasy league. Hopefully Jimmy Graham will put my team on his back and carry it like he has all season
Haha that is cracking me up. Especially because it's a vonmiller jersey hiking horse head the ball.
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60tds shattering all the records ;(. Which makes me a sad panda. But in the other hand how crazy good is this bronco's offense. Interesting to see if they slow down or if they can run the gauntlet for 16-0.
The inevitable now is official: Josh Freeman has been released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports the Bucs released their erstwhile starting quarterback on Thursday. According to Rapoport, the Bucs called all 31 teams in an effort to move Freeman via trade. Finding no takers, the team moved on.
The Bucs will be on the hook for the balance of Freeman's 2013 salary, approximately $6.25 million.
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The Tampa Bay Times had the first report of Freeman's release.
Freeman's departure ends an ugly -- and embarrassing -- chapter in team history. The Bucs moved on from Freeman last week, installing third-round pick Mike Glennon as their starter. After a week of acrimony, the Bucs finally cut the cord on their former first-round pick and one-time franchise centerpiece.
Though Freeman's struggles on the field served as the catalyst for his Tampa exit, he will find work in the NFL. The question is which team will bite and how soon.
One option is the Oakland Raiders. The team is unsettled at the quarterback position, and Freeman has a direct connection to offensive coordinator Greg Olson, who was Freeman's former coordinator with the Bucs.
Freeman also has ties to Alex Van Pelt, who currently is the Packers' running backs coach and formerly Freeman's quarterbacks coach with the Bucs. Van Pelt said in 2010 there was no quarterback in football he would trade if it meant giving up Freeman.
There will be no shortage of potential suitors looking to bring in a talented quarterback who has lost his way
I wonder who would actually go for him right now? (Oakland most likely imo but I could see him going to Minnesota, Cleveland or Tennessee)
If Cleveland goes for him, I'm kicking Jimmy Haslem right in the groin... Browns should stick with Hoyer until that hot hand cools and ride out the rest of the season and spend some time scouting a real quarterback choice (assuming Hoyer doesn't prove to be a far better asset than people are giving him credit for).
Schiano was a highly overrated coach at Rutgers. His big turnaround there was a bit of a mirage helped heavily by some of the worst OOC schedules you'll ever see. It's astounding to me that he got a pro job.
And not just because of the limited resume, but because that hard-a$$, "keep choppin' wood" stuff just won't play well with grown professionals. Fine, Coughlin has obviously had success, but then he's a smart coach where Schiano is just kind of a meathead.
The ownership must be asleep at the wheel. How do you let your HC chase off your QB (receiving nothing in return), while your HC is showing signs that he's probably not the right guy for the job anyway? This is how you set your franchise back a few years.
Well, God hates Cleveland again. After last night's terrible display of professional baseball, Brian Hoyer gets injured in the first quarter and we're graced with Brandon Weeden's gak-tastic presence again.
helgrenze wrote: Hey now.. they tied it up..... Of course, having the receivers CATCH the ball helps.
A mobile quarterback with a little bit of decisiveness would help as well...
Travis Benajamin is carrying the offense tonight.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Was not expecting that win... It feels good to get the win, but it doesn't feel good knowing that Hoyer is most likely out for the season and we're stuck with Branden Weeden...
I didn't see him play in college, but uh... was he really that good?
I mean technically they're not too incorrect... None of the teams in the NFC north are 3-2 Though I bet that Detroit will be at the end of this weekend, and I expect the Bears won't. Either that or they'll topple the Saints making both teams 4-1
helgrenze wrote: Hey now.. they tied it up..... Of course, having the receivers CATCH the ball helps.
A mobile quarterback with a little bit of decisiveness would help as well...
Travis Benajamin is carrying the offense tonight.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Was not expecting that win... It feels good to get the win, but it doesn't feel good knowing that Hoyer is most likely out for the season and we're stuck with Branden Weeden...
I didn't see him play in college, but uh... was he really that good?
Brandon Weeden set numerous records for passing, and offensive performance at Oklahoma State University, many of which surpassed records set by his college coach, Mike Gundy, when Gundy was a player.[10]
Passing Yards, Season - 4,727 (2011)
Total Offense, Season - 4,625 (2011)
Completed Passes, Season - 408 (2011)
Completion Percentage, Season - 72.3 (2011)
Passing Yards, Single Game - 502 (2011, versus Kansas State)
Completions, Single Game - 47 (2011, versus Texas A&M)
Granted, he did have Justin Blackmon to throw to.....
Yah I saw that .GIF last Sunday. Was cracking me up.
So kronk please lose a game in fantasy so I have a shot of catching you.
And redbeard nice pick on the raiders. I ALMOST made the same one but like an idiot I put faith in the chargers with how well they had been playing. Whoops ;p. it's going to be a NIGHTMARE catching you and Hlaine. Although depending on tonight I can close the gap to 4 games on H and 5 on you.
Lets hear it for the AWESOME performance of Dallas' Tony Romo...
A 140 QB rating
25-36, 506 yds, 14.1 yds per attempt, 5 TDs,
Oh... and ONE INTERCEPTION!!!!!
Bwahahahahaha..... best game of his career and that single black mark makes all the difference.
FFL: I kinda wish we didn't have the no cut list. Kaeppy is tanking. He is the lowest owned qb in our league.
I think your making a mistake dropping Brady. But what do I know ;p. he's getting Gronk back this week and hopefully Ridley as well. Add to that amendola has another week of real practice with Brady under his belt. And the rookies are getting better despite a bad outing against the bengals.
Although I guess it would depend who your starting over him?
But good luck ;p and my opinion is obviously biased as a patriot fan.
Edit:and it's my pleasure guys. If there's anything else that comes up like that let me know and I'll change/adjust it. Obviously I'm not gonna change roster size or scoring stuff. But getting rid of can't cut list for a league like this is no problem.
Its been a complete crapshoot as to the consistency of my players. Brady vs Cincy being a good example. Who 've ould have thought he would score what...6 points or something like that. And Wilson vs Indy....him running for 100+...Yeah...I just feel jinxed again this year (much like the last time I played, about 5-6 years ago.)
Yah Wilson is a pretty good and consistent producer. This year has not been a great fantasy one. I heard Julio jones might be out for the year. So frustrating with so many players crapping the bed and or gettig hurt.
Sweet fantasy nightmare losing your second highest fantasy producer is not fun.
On the plus side in real football all signs are pointing toward Gronk playing this weekend against the saints. YO SOY FIESTA! Hopefully the pats can get their offense back on track. Which is the weirdest thing to say about them after the last 5 years. I am glad their defense has been so stout but we are gonna need the offense to keep gettig better and not suffer anymore defensive injuries to have a shot in the latter part of the season and playoffs.
Bears really looked bad on D last Thursday. It might have something to do with Corey Wooten starting at DT who's a 260lb DE. And Williams is out for the year with a torn pec; but at least it's Bostic that's his backup
The bears are probably fine. What team that's played on Thursday has looked good this season? Thursday games outside of thanksgiving are stupid. Ugly football because of 2 days of practice and prep. Remember Tuesdays are mandatory days off In the NFL.
While I agree about Thursday football, I'm worried about the Bears and the injuries they've taken. They're down 3 starters for the season, with another 2 out with shorter-term injuries, and two of their pro-bowlers and all their natural DTs are on that list.
Yah don't worry though the rest of the league is injured too. The patriots are down to 2 rookie DT's, lost mayo the defensive captain, and potentially our best corner. It's just as bad around the league. The patriots example just being what freshest in my head. Haven't even really taken a good look around the league yet.
I'm really starting to question the leagues effect on head/injuries through rules. And now defenders are starting to go low to avoid fines causing even more injuries. The lack of padded practices and increase in size/speed of the game seems like it's having an effect on the overall quality if the products.
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah don't worry though the rest of the league is injured too. The patriots are down to 2 rookie DT's, lost mayo the defensive captain, and potentially our best corner. It's just as bad around the league. The patriots example just being what freshest in my head. Haven't even really taken a good look around the league yet.
I'm really starting to question the leagues effect on head/injuries through rules. And now defenders are starting to go low to avoid fines causing even more injuries. The lack of padded practices and increase in size/speed of the game seems like it's having an effect on the overall quality if the products.
I think if you look at the teams with the best records (indianapolis, Seattle, Denver, etc.) you will find that they are relatively injury free.
And I agree with you on the League's reaction to it's Concussion Problem. The personal agenda side of me hopes that this brings about the demise of Football, and the rise of Rugby Union in the US (imo, with the caliber of athlete growing up in the US, there's no reason we shouldn't be competing with NZ and SA for rugby dominance)
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah don't worry though the rest of the league is injured too. The patriots are down to 2 rookie DT's, lost mayo the defensive captain, and potentially our best corner. It's just as bad around the league. The patriots example just being what freshest in my head. Haven't even really taken a good look around the league yet.
I'm really starting to question the leagues effect on head/injuries through rules. And now defenders are starting to go low to avoid fines causing even more injuries. The lack of padded practices and increase in size/speed of the game seems like it's having an effect on the overall quality if the products.
I think if you look at the teams with the best records (indianapolis, Seattle, Denver, etc.) you will find that they are relatively injury free.
And I agree with you on the League's reaction to it's Concussion Problem. The personal agenda side of me hopes that this brings about the demise of Football, and the rise of Rugby Union in the US (imo, with the caliber of athlete growing up in the US, there's no reason we shouldn't be competing with NZ and SA for rugby dominance)
Injury free? Seattle's O-line is SWISS CHEESE!
There dose seem to be more injuries this season as well...
Big injury news for Dallas.... Ware could miss 3-4 weeks and Murray is hurt. Big game vs Philly next... Could give the Eagles the NFCEast Lead. Philly hosts NYG the game after, and Dallas goes to Detroit.
Odds of NYG pulling a win against Minn? Giants are listed as a 3 point favorite. Tasks for NY, stop Peterson, and stop the turn overs. Tasks for Vikings.... find some offense other than AP, add to Eli's pick total.
Washington hosts Chicago.... Must win for 'Skins, otherwise they fall out of the conversation for post season. maybe RG3 should buy Eli a beer after this one.
Jerod mayo for the patriots got surgery for a torn pect muscle and may be out for the year... Unless they can get Ray Lewis on the line and he does some amazing return in record time for the playoffs.
Leads the patriots in tackles and was defensive captain. How much more can they take lol. Talib, Mayo, wilfork, Kelly, vereen, amendola, Gronk, slater, Armstead. All are starters or major contributors or were going to be(Armstead). And still the pats soldier on to 5-1!
There dose seem to be more injuries this season as well...
Well, relatively, prior to this last game Either that or Seattle's line is just that awesome, or Russell Wilson is even better than we thought?
We're missing Okung until November, Giacomini for a few weeks, and Unger just got back. Meanwhile, we have Paul McQuistan (AKA the LT from Hell) who sucks really bad and can't block for his life. Over half of the 3rd down conversions we have are because Russ drops back, realizes no one's open, then runs for a first.
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Hello, and thanks for reading.
Have you played pro football? College ball? Highschool? Pee-wee?
Have you played Madden before?
Do you sort of kind of know some of the rules of football? If yes keep reading. If no...well also keep reading! We will take ANYONE. This could turn into a regular gig for the right person.
The Cleveland Browns as you may have noticed are having problems scoring points on offense consistently. We are deciding that we actually want to win this year and that we have a real shot at it too. 3 wins in 6 games!? We were expecting maybe 1/3 of those wins for the whole year, but SOMEHOW we have a shot still. Here's the thing...our defense is sick nasty, but we've got problems under center...well one problem. Brandon Weeden. If you're sick of seeing desperation heaves to the sidelines, countless sacks after superb coverage, and underhanded lightly tossed interceptions in the 4th quarter then please come apply! If you can throw a ball, come apply! If you can't, come anyway! We can teach you the basics....throwing the ball to the guy who has the same color shirt as you. Throwing the ball reasonably close to a receiver that's WIDE OPEN, throwing the ball more than 3 yards on 3rd and 16. Think you got what it takes? Come on down! You're the next contestant on Cleveland Quarterbacks!
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Because Weeden sucks and we're really sick of his gak... Though it is a little cruel
Chancetragedy wrote: Looking for a little more in depth info. Been reading articles about him seems pretty good. Big mouth though.
His stat line on the Jets website didnt look half bad... 2.5 sacks and 30 tackles for an interior defensive lineman who is also a rookie (but not a rookie like LT, Bruce Smith, Derrick Thomas, Junior Seau, etc. were) is pretty good..
And how many guys in the NFL today can you say has a big mouth? I'd wager that it's a whole heck of a lot more than the guys who don't
Yah apparently he's in the mix for DROY. Made some comments about the patriots that were getting play at another forum I lol at. Just curious to what he is actually doing this year quality wise. Seems like he could back it up.
IDP leagues are fun but that had zero to do with why I was interested in Richardson. He's been running his mouth about the pats and usually I try not to form snap decisions when I see stuff like that.
But who cares
GRONKOWSKI HAS BEEN CLEARED TO PLAY BY THE MEDICAL STAFFS! Couldn't have come at a better time haha .
Chancetragedy wrote: IDP leagues are fun but that had zero to do with why I was interested in Richardson. He's been running his mouth about the pats and usually I try not to form snap decisions when I see stuff like that.
But who cares
GRONKOWSKI HAS BEEN CLEARED TO PLAY BY THE MEDICAL STAFFS! Couldn't have come at a better time haha .
Richardson ALWAYS runs his mouth...
When he was with Mizzou last year, he derided the Georgia Bulldogs as "Old Man Football"... that put the Dawg nation in a tizzy.
gak. I didn't see that Bradford went down too. Additionally CJ Spiller got hurt again, which is like saying water is wet, and Cincy's pro bowl corner Leon Hall presumably tore his Achilles.
Aye.. CJ is done for me this year, as soon as he gets dropped off the can't cut list he's gone. Jones Drew finally came off it last week and he'll be gone with the next batch of waivers, and Rhoddy White was binned last week. Seems I got most of the can't cut trash this year in the DCM league.
Glad I kept faith in Megatron though,
It's 1am here in Blighty, just getting comfy for the Broncos game.. should be a classic, and I'm sitting here with Decker, Welker, Julius, Prater and the Denver D for my league... not a fan of em.. honest.
Blood Bowl is by far the best thing GW has ever done. Orcs, Elves, etc. playing a violent form of American football. It's even more fun than it sounds.
Chancetragedy wrote: Blood bowl is fun as hell. Did you ever play mutant sports for sega? Like mutant football/hockey/whatever, it's a lot like that but with miniatures.
Anyways so at 8:09 I changed from inidianapolis to fricken Denver/. That is literally the last time I ever second guess a pick day of, FML.
Naw. I don't really even like playing madden. I think it probably has to do with the fact that I played football through college and maybe football type games just don't do it for me.
I hate 99% of sports games. I loved mutant sports as a kid. Either way, thank you Indy now I don't have to hear about broncos possibly going undefeated!
Only winners get wings hillman, nice butterfingers on the 3 yard line LOL!
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Kansas City chefs 7-0
Every single other team in the NFL not 7-0...
Doug Martin - Torn labrum probably done
Sam Bradford - torn ACL, done
Reggie Wayne - undisclosed knee injury, done
Leon Hall - torn Achilles, done
Brian Cushing - broken leg, torn LCL, done
Doug Martin - Torn labrum probably done
Sam Bradford - torn ACL, done
Reggie Wayne - undisclosed knee injury, done
Leon Hall - torn Achilles, done
Brian Cushing - broken leg, torn LCL, done
That stinks. Then again, my team lost two starters -- one of them a Pro Bowler -- for the season in game 1. The Pro Bowler was hurt on the first drive. So I only have so much sympathy.
gorgon wrote: That stinks. Then again, my team lost two starters -- one of them a Pro Bowler -- for the season in game 1. The Pro Bowler was hurt on the first drive. So I only have so much sympathy.
Heh... I hate seeing teams get clobbered by injuries... but, it's part of the game.
I'm a Mizzou fan... and right now they're 7-0 after beating two SEC ranked teams (Georgia and Florida). But, folks are critical of Mizzou's win because both Georgia and Florida are absolutely hammered with injuries. I find that criticism funny, because last year, in Mizzou's inaugural SEC season, we lost our QB, RB, and the OL... we got stomped of course.
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: Jermicheal Findley is in ICU with the neck injury he sustained against Cleveland
Oh mother er! That really fething sucks that he got as injured as it is, but it does look like he's going to be fine (which is good ). The league is probably going to fine Gipson for a hit with his head/too the head. Which wasn't the case at all during the game. It was shoulder to shoulder. The injury most likely occured when Findley skidded against the ground after the hit...
So what's the list of top tier player that have been injured so far
Ryan clady
Jerod mayo
Vince wilfork
Danny amendola
Brian Cushing
Julio jones
Lance Briggs
J.finley
Reggie Wayne
Sam Bradford
Doug Martin
Leon washington
M.crabtree
Matt Shaub
Arian foster
Who else? I know there are more, this is just real quick off the top of my head.
Chance, I'm sure few people consider Brian Hoyer top tier player, but he did a lot better against teams than the idiot they've got taking the snaps now...
So will tonight finally be the night that the G-men erase their goose-egg?! I mean, they are getting the Vikings and playing at home. There's always grasping at straws isn't there!?!
Granted I know deep down their season is over, but it would be nice to at least finish above Jacksonville...
Your totally right affindrate actually I was going to post him but I wasn't sure what crap I'd have gotten from calling him good. I also forgot Nate burleson, Demarcus ware, and more.
And as I start to think about injured players it just get me bummed out.
Chancetragedy wrote: So what's the list of top tier player that have been injured so far
Ryan clady
Jerod mayo
Vince wilfork
Danny amendola
Brian Cushing
Julio jones
Lance Briggs
J.finley
Reggie Wayne
Sam Bradford
Doug Martin
Leon washington
M.crabtree
Matt Shaub
Arian foster
Who else? I know there are more, this is just real quick off the top of my head.
Sam Bradford and Matt Shaub is just devastating.
w/o Sam... the Rams has no chances at all.
Mat Shaub... Texans was supposed to kick arse... not sure what happened to him.
Neither Shaub nor Foster are out for the season, though. Foster could be back next week, but more likely the next. Shaub could be back in less than a month.
As for what happened to the Texans, there are about 4 million fans asking that same question. WTF? Even before the injuries, this team had too much talent to fall to 2-4.
cincydooley wrote: You know, Hoyer isn't a superstar, but if he doesn't get hurt he's Cleveland's starter for the rest of the year.
Now they're saddled with...... Brandon Weeden....Again....
Also, Alf, I want to remind you that Cleveland chose Weeden over Russell Wilson.....Twice.
FInally, I think we left Jay Cutler off the list.
Don't remind me of how terrible of a pick Weeden was, I get to hear it every morning on the local sports station. Weeden is garbage... We need to sucker someone into taking him off our hands like we did Trent Richardson.
Also, Josh Gordon is on the trading block, which means that someone saw the all 22 footage of Gordon being lazy on the field last week against the Lions...
Cutler is out 4 weeks minimum with a groin tear, only 3 games though since we're going into a bye. And with the loss of Briggs we're hurting bad. At least Brandon Marshall's X Ray came back negative and McCown looked more competant than Campbell did last year.
And tonight I think the Vikes will take in a pretty poor game. AP being the deciding factor
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also Brandon Merriwether's 2 game ban is a joke. Repeated dirty hits should earn more than just 2 games off the field
And tonight I think the Vikes will take in a pretty poor game. AP being the deciding factor
Sadly I have to agree.
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: Automatically Appended Next Post: Also Brandon Merriwether's 2 game ban is a joke. Repeated dirty hits should earn more than just 2 games off the field
Who did he try and dismember this time? Sadly the overall coverage of games & goings-on is pretty crappy up here unless you shell out $$$ for the NFL package...
Edit:still mad at myself over that game. Picked it 41-38 colts too. Then panicked after the pit and Washington games and changed it to donco's at 8. Bahhhhhhhh
Chancetragedy wrote:Redbeard and Hlaine please stop picking winners K'thanks ;p
I've gotten 9 for the past 4 weeks now, stupid broncos and vikes
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: Automatically Appended Next Post: Also Brandon Merriwether's 2 game ban is a joke. Repeated dirty hits should earn more than just 2 games off the field
Who did he try and dismember this time? Sadly the overall coverage of games & goings-on is pretty crappy up here unless you shell out $$$ for the NFL package...
The league’s written release also said that Meriweather “was penalized for unnecessary roughness in the third quarter of Sunday’s game against Chicago for a forcible helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless receiver and again in the fourth quarter for a forcible hit to the head and neck area of a defenseless receiver.
Jeff Garcia reached out to the Browns and offered his services behind center...
The Browns (because of Brandon Weeden) have become a fething joke this season. Weeden is the worst quarterback I've seen in recent memory... At least Tebow had God on his side...
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah the patriots just signed Andre carter off the street because of the lack of Dline talent lol.
Andre Carter is an over-the-hill, 34 year old pass rushing DE. His game is just a *little* bit different than that of a 1- or 3-technique DT, LOL. He had a good season for the Pats a couple years ago, but given that *nobody* has enough pass rushers, the fact that he's been on the street this long suggests that most scouting departments think he's cooked.
Anyway, it's hardly support for DL help being available, LOL. There aren't enough of those guys to go around in the first place.
Regarding Browns QBs, do you really want to win, say, 6 or 7 games with Hoyer? He isn't the future anyway, and that just means a middling draft pick next year.
gorgon wrote: Regarding Browns QBs, do you really want to win, say, 6 or 7 games with Hoyer? He isn't the future anyway, and that just means a middling draft pick next year.
1) We've had high draft picks pretty much since our return in 1999, has it done us any good? Nope!
2) feth yeah I want to see the Browns win, Hoyer didn't have to be the future, but he could have been the mentor, and he most definitely could have been the present. Say we go out and win 7 games under Hoyer, that makes us 7-9 on the season our best record since 2007 (6 years). We have 2 first round picks, one mid-round and one late round (assuming the Colts keep up their game and go 11-5, 10-6, w/e they need to be to get into the playoffs). Those two picks we can easily bundle to get a high first round pick to grab the future QB of the franchise, who spends a year, maybe two years learning under Hoyer, and then takes over in 2015. Brandon Weeden is done in the NFL after this season, he is incapable of learning from his mistakes and improving his game. My biggest hope was that Weeden would see Hoyer play, see how what he did that was successful and learn from him, study the tape, practice with the second team, do whatever was needed to make sure that should he be the starter once again we wouldn't be treated to this:
Brandon Weeden's record as a starter of the Cleveland Browns is 6-20, and it really doesn't look like we're going to win another game this season. I'd rather deal with a mid-round pick and the chance at a winning record than sucking again for another year.
Redbeard wrote: Well, to be fair, Carter is an end, not a tackle.
I meant it as an agreement and indictment on Dline depth around around the league. They also signed NT sealver siliga who hav been cut by the broncos Seahawks and 9ers. And last week they signed someone named andre niblett. No need to nit pick here.
gorgon wrote: Regarding Browns QBs, do you really want to win, say, 6 or 7 games with Hoyer? He isn't the future anyway, and that just means a middling draft pick next year.
1) We've had high draft picks pretty much since our return in 1999, has it done us any good? Nope!
2) feth yeah I want to see the Browns win, Hoyer didn't have to be the future, but he could have been the mentor, and he most definitely could have been the present. Say we go out and win 7 games under Hoyer, that makes us 7-9 on the season our best record since 2007 (6 years). We have 2 first round picks, one mid-round and one late round (assuming the Colts keep up their game and go 11-5, 10-6, w/e they need to be to get into the playoffs). Those two picks we can easily bundle to get a high first round pick to grab the future QB of the franchise, who spends a year, maybe two years learning under Hoyer, and then takes over in 2015. Brandon Weeden is done in the NFL after this season, he is incapable of learning from his mistakes and improving his game. My biggest hope was that Weeden would see Hoyer play, see how what he did that was successful and learn from him, study the tape, practice with the second team, do whatever was needed to make sure that should he be the starter once again we wouldn't be treated to this:
Brandon Weeden's record as a starter of the Cleveland Browns is 6-20, and it really doesn't look like we're going to win another game this season. I'd rather deal with a mid-round pick and the chance at a winning record than sucking again for another year.
well Campbell been named the starter this week Link
All I can remember of his play last year was getting blown out by SF and a horribly awful 2 minute drill against the Texans ending with him throwing to Forte (who was Quadruple covered) hoping for a flag
well Campbell been named the starter this week Link
All I can remember of his play last year was getting blown out by SF and a horribly awful 2 minute drill against the Texans ending with him throwing to Forte (who was Quadruple covered) hoping for a flag
Looks like Mary Kay Cabot was wrong again >_< Ugh the Cleveland sports press sucks. (She said there was a 90% chance of Weeden being named the starter for this week).
As to the switch to Jason Campbell, it should have happened last week. Win, lose, or draw, it was apparent to anyone that saw Weeden play against the Lions that he just cannot cut it in the NFL. Now we get to see whether or not Campbell can...
Fun stat. Through 7 weeks last year 84 players were lost to season ending injuries. Through 7 weeks this year 124 players have seen season Enders. For a 46% increase.
Lol. Who knows maybe the league will lose enough talent to injuries that guys like Clemens can actually perform pretty well.
But seriously the seahawgs look awesome this year and could be the 1 or 2 seed if they keep it up. Russell Brees 2.0 is so much fun to watch and I am interested to see what he can do with harvin and lynch.
well Campbell been named the starter this week Link
All I can remember of his play last year was getting blown out by SF and a horribly awful 2 minute drill against the Texans ending with him throwing to Forte (who was Quadruple covered) hoping for a flag
Looks like Mary Kay Cabot was wrong again >_< Ugh the Cleveland sports press sucks. (She said there was a 90% chance of Weeden being named the starter for this week).
As to the switch to Jason Campbell, it should have happened last week. Win, lose, or draw, it was apparent to anyone that saw Weeden play against the Lions that he just cannot cut it in the NFL. Now we get to see whether or not Campbell can...
At least Cleveland have strung a few W's along the way. Minnesota on the other hand: Apparently Freeman has a concussion (Which doesn't excuse 20-53) and Ponder gets the gig again (Despite Cassel looking much better)
Calvin Johnson's stat line today :O
And the redskins really had a bad time at Denver. I think Rg3 was hit 19 times on 34 drop backs which is never good when you want a healthy QB.
Yah holy crap CJ missed the all time record by 7 points. And may have gotten dez Bryant cut by the cowboys soon lol. Did anyone see Bryant's hissy fits and near fight with Jason witten?
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah holy crap CJ missed the all time record by 7 points. And may have gotten dez Bryant cut by the cowboys soon lol. Did anyone see Bryant's hissy fits and near fight with Jason witten?
The RAMs will take Dez off your hands for a 6th rounder.
Not my hands I thought the dude was a joke since ok state. Talent with attitude /= good player. I'm actually laughing over his breakdown today. I wish I could post .Gif's because it was hilarious.
Let's take a vote. Who wants to switch to confidence points for the last half of the season? I'm pretty sure I can do that, but I wan people to be cool with it before I change it.
Edit:I vote to change.
Edit2:sorry I can't change that. Like the only thing I can't change.
To think that Richie incognito was felled not by a suspension for his cheap play but his hazing of another Oline guy is crazy to me. Cya later douche nozzle, hope he can't find a gig again. Next to go is Big Bang clock.
Great win for the bears. It was also nice to McClellin and Peppers (and the Pass rush in general) Show up as well as Forte,McCown and the O-Line performing really well.
Also in the FFL Kronk and Byte already have playoff spots
whembly wrote: meh... he's known for his jackassery as a RAMS...
He can be an arse, that's fine, I'm talking about the whole bullying/hazing thing. I admit I was with everyone that was calling his head when the whole thing started, but the story is not as cut and dry as we originally thought.
I'm still blown away the team has sided with incognito over Martin. Obviously I have a different view having been bullied and not being the bullyer like a lot of football players grow up as. But still to side with someone who's clearly racist enough to send racist texts and threatening voicemails and what not is crazy to me. And now we hear almost every player coming out saying its a different culture in the locker room. Well no duh but is that culture working? Nope. I recommend anyone who hasn't read it to check out tom boswells article in the Washington post recently. It's about what a crapshoot the NFL has turned into and that they aren't beig held accountable at all really.
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: Great win for the bears. It was also nice to McClellin and Peppers (and the Pass rush in general) Show up as well as Forte,McCown and the O-Line performing really well.
Also in the FFL Kronk and Byte already have playoff spots
Well I'm sitting pretty in 3rd up a game and points to 4th and 5th. And my roster is finally starting to perform. I guess now my theory really gets put to the test. In that I tried to build my lineup out of guys who will be playing hard till week 16. Didn't want anyone that would be "resting" or whatever.
Chancetragedy wrote: I'm still blown away the team has sided with incognito over Martin.
Not being part of the team, I have no insight or belief which way they should side. As an outsider, the fact that they're siding with Incognito over Martin tells me one of two things.
Either: Martin is a crybaby and whatever it was that Incognito was doing is par for the course in an NFL locker-room (which is not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't want it at my office, but I wouldn't want to be hit by a 250 pound linebacker at my job either. Different jobs have different acceptable cultures.)
or
Incognito is such a significantly better football player than Martin that his teammates would rather he be back playing and giving them the best chance to win games, and are willing to overlook his bad behaviour to get him back.
But still to side with someone who's clearly racist enough to send racist texts and threatening voicemails and what not is crazy to me.
I don't really buy into the idea that because someone uses a word, they must be racist. You have to put it in the context of whatever social dynamic there is going on there. Not something I'd be comfortable saying, but I know groups that toss it around without ill intent. You have to remember that something like 90% of NFL players are African-American. I doubt someone who was really racist would survive for long in that environment.
And now we hear almost every player coming out saying its a different culture in the locker room. Well no duh but is that culture working? Nope.
Not sure I agree with this statement either. The culture in the locker room might not be working to produce 100% conventionally upstanding citizens. On the other hand, we only hear about the small percentage of bad apples. Plenty of NFL players do a lot of good in their communities. I'm a software engineer. Other software engineers have done bad things in the past. They run spam-nets, have robbed banks, hacked classified info, etc etc. Now, because 'software engineer' isn't a particularly glamourous job, I'm not really held subject to some widespread belief that my whole profession 'has it wrong'. But that's what's going on with the NFL. For that matter, my suburban white-bread family, has a higher percentage of 'bad apples' than the NFL. Between me and my three brothers, three of us have what you'd expect as reasonable middle-class jobs, and the fourth, raised in the same environment, has substance abuse issues, has spent time in jail, and is generally a mess. Put in the larger context of a society in which 5% of our citizens are incarcerated, I'd say the NFL is doing a better job at producing non-criminals that the society as a whole.
I doubt it's just football either. Baseball players are all on steroids, if you believe what you read, and NBA players are all drug dealers.
Thinking about the thing with Incognito again, I'm reminded of a story from the Bulls heyday:
I'm sure this sort of thing happens in every locker-room for every sport. The thing is, Steve Kerr stood up for himself, took a bit of a beating, and the team was stronger for it. Martin whined about it, and now we're all talking about bullying in sports.
Most of that agree with redbeard and could at least imagine a scenario where this is all actually blown out of proportion. And do agree context may play a roll in what incognito was saying. But I am against bullying in any and all circumstances personally. Now where to draw the "bullying" line is a whole other conversation. I had a pretty miserable childhood because of bullying. And "standing up for myself" rarely made it better until I was much older(yes I understand he's an adult) So this whole thing already strikes a chord I guess. And just rubs me the wrong way.
A few things I'd counter with as it pertains to the NFL not having an issue with the law are the crime rates among athletes and especially football players as a whole are much higher than society as a whole. The net is lower because there are only what 1800 total employed NFL players? But the rates were up to double in some cases IIRC. And sure there are a LOT of very very good human beings that are football players. But there are a lot of entitled losers too in a higher concentration.
So idk this whole thing will continue to make me sick either way haha. Add to that everything else, and you can explain away all these things as individual events but it becomes increasingly harder to explain away the whole.
The play to send the Bengals/Ravens game into OT was fething insane! Ihedigbo is running laps after this game. If Baltimore loses (doesn't look like it), I'd make him walk home after the game.
Alfndrate wrote: The play to send the Bengals/Ravens game into OT was fething insane! Ihedigbo is running laps after this game. If Baltimore loses (doesn't look like it), I'd make him walk home after the game.
Alfndrate wrote: The play to send the Bengals/Ravens game into OT was fething insane! Ihedigbo is running laps after this game. If Baltimore loses (doesn't look like it), I'd make him walk home after the game.
Alfndrate wrote: The play to send the Bengals/Ravens game into OT was fething insane! Ihedigbo is running laps after this game. If Baltimore loses (doesn't look like it), I'd make him walk home after the game.
And Ravens win. He won't be walking home...
I know, I saw it, I'd still make him run laps.
I take it was him who tipped the ball on the hail mary
And Tavon Austins's season highlight reel this year will pretty mush be from this week
Disappointing result for the bears though, damn 2pt conversions
I was sitting in the pub with friends and scratching our heads at Klemmens stats (when we first checked he was 5 of 9 210 Yards 2 TDs. that's pretty nuts
If Klemmens keeps that up Austin should get a few more highlights before the end of the season
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: I was sitting in the pub with friends and scratching our heads at Klemmens stats (when we first checked he was 5 of 9 210 Yards 2 TDs. that's pretty nuts
If Klemmens keeps that up Austin should get a few more highlights before the end of the season
He did throw one bomb...
But, the other was was all Tavon's YAC.
The star of that game was really the RAMS defensive front seven.
Well Ed Reed to the Jets via Free Agency, Arian Foster out fro the season on IR, Texan's season not looking very good at the moment: highlight would have to be Case Keenum.
Actually most of the back-ups this year (Josh McCown, Kris Clemmons, Geno Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassell) have been up to scratch which is a good sign for most teams
That's exactly what I'm sayin whembly ;(. And frankly the patriots didn't really play well enough to win the game but they had any chance of fighting through and pulling it out ripped from their grasp with a referee override that was called correctly to begin with. At the VERY LEAST it was defensive holding if not PI. But it is what it is and Clete blakeman won't be seeing any playoff money after that bullgak that's for sure. So moving on to Denver what a game next week is gonna be. Cannot wait although I have to be up at 5am the next day for the first time in over 4 years lol.
The last pass was uncatchable by Gronk so you can't call PI on it. Besides it's not as if the Patriots didn't get away with the massive hold against NO as well as pushing the LS.
MR: The follow-up naturally, what was discussed to then pick up the flag?
CB: There were two officials that came in. One was the umpire and the other one was our side judge and there was a discussion at that point as to the, in essence, the catchability of the ball due to its location. So it was determined at that point in time that when the primary contact occurred on the tight end that the ball, in essence, was coming in underthrown and in essence it was immediate at that point intercepted at the front end of the end zone. So there was a determination that, in essence, uncatchability, that the ball was intercepted at or about the same time the primary contact against the receiver occurred.
Seattle has a bye next week. Then it's Monday Night Football against the Saints on the 2nd. Seattle better not pull their usual crap because the Saints ain't a team to be dicking around with.
Breotan wrote: Seattle has a bye next week. Then it's Monday Night Football against the Saints on the 2nd. Seattle better not pull their usual crap because the Saints ain't a team to be dicking around with.
I have faith in the Seahawks, they're playing the Saints at home... Both of those teams are 5-0 at home (6-0?), I forsee this going Seattle's way.
That's not to take anything away from Peyton though, the guy is an absolute force. To still be in contention for MVP at his age after an injury like his is incredible. If he keeps up this pace, he won't be "in contention", he'll walk to it.
So the weather in MA right now is 20 degrees with 30 MPH winds. Pats vs donco's should be interesting because of it. Might drop into the teens by game time. Great weather for Brady to beat Manning and his terrible cold weather record again hopefully.
Well that Browns game is so atrocious I've put a moratorium on anything Browns related until they start to show that they actually give a flying feth about winning.
Yah that was bad. I thought Hayden was supposed to be one of the best CB's in football? He got burned today. I gave up rooting for Ohio teams a long time ago. I'll stop throw on an OSU game here and there but that's about it.
Also I really hope the refs don't give the pats all the calls this week after Mondays horse crap no call. I love laughing at all the idiots that say the patriots get all the calls when it's actually a proven fact Brady and the pats in general benefit the least from referee calls out of almost any team in the league.
My favorites are the "Brady rule" for hits to the knee which is actually the Palmer rule and started 3 years before Brady got hit and the tuck rule which again started 3 years before the patriots benefitted from it. It's at a point where even Mediots have NFC what they're talking about when it comes to penalties and complain about the patriots getting calls.
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah that was bad. I thought Hayden was supposed to be one of the best CB's in football? He got burned today. I gave up rooting for Ohio teams a long time ago. I'll stop throw on an OSU game here and there but that's about it.
There were a couple of questionable push-offs by Brown, but yeah he didn't look very good today. There was also a no call hit to Campbell's head on the play that he went out today. So after having enough of that crapfest, I took off my jersey and hat, turned off the game and started prepping for the Ottawa Senators game tonight. Told the poor sap that runs the Browns' Twitter feed that since they were incapable of winning a game, I was incapable of being a fan and to call me when they started to show that they knew how to play a game of football.
Ouch ;(. I feel the pain Aff. I had been a browns/Indians and a dolphins/marlins fan for most of my life until I moved to New England in '95. Fortunately since '96 I've witnessed probably the greatest 18 year run in sports history from 1 city. Like I tell my friends all the time when they whine and complain they can't understand how lucky we've been as a city to see the Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins, and Celtics win so much and so often. I'm never going to see anything like I have the last 18 years for the rest of my life I'm sure.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Dennard and Talib active tonight for the patriots Julius Thomas out for the broncos. That fact alone just made this game a lot closer. Goddamnit why do I start day shift tomorrow for the first time in 4.5 years ;(. I am not even gonna make it past half time before I have to go to bed if I want to wake up in the morning.
Automatically Appended Next Post: We'll at least walking dead is new.
A good Steelers team wouldn't have had to settle for those field goals, I wouldn't be enjoying my tears (of which there are none) if I were you. You team is only slightly less gakky than the browns.
Wow... the officials of the Sunday night game just screwed up big time. Did anyone else catch that blunder? And then Al Michaels going off on the officiating crew for their screw up?
Alfndrate wrote:Wow... the officials of the Sunday night game just screwed up big time. Did anyone else catch that blunder? And then Al Michaels going off on the officiating crew for their screw up?
Just read the article on NFL.com, seems like a pretty big miscommunication
Also, any one got thoughts on Tomlin's actions during the Steelers game on Thursday night? Looks like he might face $100,000 fine, the Steelers might face a similar fine, and the possibility of the loss of a draft pick.
Alfndrate wrote: Also, any one got thoughts on Tomlin's actions during the Steelers game on Thursday night? Looks like he might face $100,000 fine, the Steelers might face a similar fine, and the possibility of the loss of a draft pick.
Good.
Anyone, especiallythe Coach, shouldn't be anywhere near that.
Chancetragedy wrote: Lol you hear stories about junk grabbing in the dogpile scrims but that was so blatant lol.
I wouldn't call that intentional... but, as the NFL ruled that a player such as Ricky Williams' hair was part of the uniform and therefore was OK to be tackled by it.... this is just the same way, dont want to be tackled by the junk? cut it off
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: My problem is that coaches are always in the officiating zone during the games, it's just this time it caused Jacoby Jones to choke during his return.
Sideline violations are often overlooked because they aren't generally relevant to the play, but this one was.
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah looks the NFC has to go through Seattle where the Seahawks look unbeatable. Dominate win last night.
While exciting, I'm not getting my hopes up.... Seattle will inevitably fall under the "Pacific Northwest Professional Sports Team Syndrome" (PNPSTS) which is to say, they will dominate all year, but when it comes to playoff time or the biggest game, they will choke, as is historically the case for any NW team
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah looks the NFC has to go through Seattle where the Seahawks look unbeatable. Dominate win last night.
They gotta be the SB favorite now...
Geez.
Nah.. the "experts" will still find a reason to hate on them Most of them will still probably say the Patriots or Broncos are favorites to win the Super Bowl...
Its almost too bad that the Superbowl isnt hosted by the "better" team instead of a Neutral site, I doubt any AFC team could hang in Seattle, I mean, sure they just set a noise record, but could you imagine how loud it'd be if the Super Bowl was there with Seattle playing? It'll probably be just as loud during the NFC Championship or whatever other P/O games are there.
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah looks the NFC has to go through Seattle where the Seahawks look unbeatable. Dominate win last night.
They gotta be the SB favorite now...
Geez.
Nah.. the "experts" will still find a reason to hate on them Most of them will still probably say the Patriots or Broncos are favorites to win the Super Bowl...
Its almost too bad that the Superbowl isnt hosted by the "better" team instead of a Neutral site, I doubt any AFC team could hang in Seattle, I mean, sure they just set a noise record, but could you imagine how loud it'd be if the Super Bowl was there with Seattle playing? It'll probably be just as loud during the NFC Championship or whatever other P/O games are there.
I'm picking the Seahawks vs Broncos in the SB.
Here's the x-factor. This is being played in NY. In winter... Manning doesn't like playing in cold weather.
Besides... I have a man-crush on Russell Wilson... he just plays the game right. (I hate the coach tho )
Yah I agree with Seattle haters gonna hate. I'm looking at them as NFC favorites right now because of their home field advantage. Now when it comes east to NY for the SB who knows what will happen.
Well, if Seattle makes it to the SB, at least they'll have a week+ to adjust to the time difference, as opposed to 1 to 2 days.
Even if I weren't a Seahawks fan, I would have to really compliment them on completely shutting down the NO offense and picking apart the 5th ranked NO defense.
They completely took NO out of whatever gameplan they had come up with.
They were out coached and out played, and the result showed.
yep. The offenses of both teams were just awful.
er! That really fething sucks that he got as injured as it is, but it does look like he's going to be fine (which is good 
