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sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/10 01:29:09


Post by: Syro_


I'm glad to hear more is coming. I'm up to page 7 now, and have enjoyed lots more cool stuff. I especially like the shots of your entire guard force, and that transport you made from the German halftrack. I can't believe how much you improved on that.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/10 22:15:50


Post by: Meer_Cat


The Hanomag conversion was an awful lot of fun- and something I'd been thinking about doing for a long time, glad you liked it! For me, one of the most serendipitous finds was the broken bit of USB plug adapter in the parking lot- it became the hatch coaming for the TC's position. It was the most extensive kitbash/conversion I'd done up tot hat time. The Phaeton ammo hauler is all scratchbuilt except for the tread units (which are from a Soviet WWII B4 tracked howitzer). The howitzer it supports will (hopefully soon) be my first complete scratchbuild from start to finish.

Thank you for looking in!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 02:29:15


Post by: Meer_Cat


Welp, this is what I have been up to since last posting: the Raging Heroes figures as a Panzerjaeger/1st Grenadiers Platoon or Company Command Squad is finished. I didn't want to bother folks with partially painted, or just base painted figures- I wanted something substantial to show.

When last we spoke, I was gnashing my teeth over the indignities of resin. I have to admit, once you realize you have to invoke the Dark Arts to keep the blasted stuff together, it does take paint rather well, oftentimes having detail superior to many plastic castings. Having said that, if I can buy one-piece resin castings, vice little kits, I'd far rather that.

Here's what we started with:





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I used just about every trick I've learned over 40+ years of painting, and especially what I've seen/benn instructed in here on DakkaDakka:
- Thin my paints
- Wash low areas dark
- Drybrush high areas light (mixed my own colors)
- Paint the face background and eyes first
- Outline with black where you can
- Freehand the flag if you can't get a transfer on it
- Pay attention to the 'story' for each figure (why they do what they do, what they're doing now, what they'll do next)
- Have fun with it (otherwise, go back to real life work)

Here's what we finished up with:

Group shots:





Colonel Ludmilla Magdanova:





Color Sergeant Volga Potemkine:







Fleet Officer Irina Kurganova (we have to nuke the site from orbit- it's the only way to be sure). I was going for a naval landing party look with her- Navy-issue coat, so no one mistakes her for one of the knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers (like me), but with a pair of borrowed grunt boots and some tac equipment to keep up on the ground:





Security Sergeant Aaqila Noyakin:





Medical Specialist Sergeant Karoline Nedalka:





As for go-backs: I'm going to touch up the bases and dry brush some white over the Astro-granite and I'm going to add color to the trim on the hood of Fleet Officer Kurganova (couldn't see it througfh my magnifier, took the photo being enlarged to make out the detail- now I've seen it, I can't _not_ see it). I look forward to your observations and constructive criticism to help me see other things through your eyes.

On to the next- more follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 11:30:22


Post by: ChaoticMind


Looking great! As for tiny details only revealing themselves, be glad you have the regular military style ones. The jail birds rag tag gear makes it even more “fun” to figure out what is going on.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 12:46:34


Post by: Bash the Bosh


Love the recent (to me) projects Meer_Cat! And I found point you’ve raised about the idea of modelling and painting for the sheer joy of it quite poignant. I’m in the same category. I don’t game, simply because I don’t really enjoy that side of it. I just enjoy creating and painting something that I can call my own with out having any barriers. I think that element gets lost sometimes with tabletop modelling.

Great stuff as always!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 12:51:00


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Loving the model Meer_Cat! For eyes, try shading the whole eye socket, then painting into that, it gives adramatic effect and makes it easier to touch up if you have too much white around the eyes. Your colonel and medic wold greatly benefit from that IMHO. Oh, and don't fret about what you're showing us: if you feel like showing PIP, do so. It's your blog, we're just happy you're showing your work


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 20:51:01


Post by: Dr H


Good effort all round.
Always good to try new things. Only way to improve.

Unfamiliar with the models. Interesting to see.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 21:26:05


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you all for the comments- it means a lot to hear what you think!

 ChaoticMind wrote:
Looking great! As for tiny details only revealing themselves, be glad you have the regular military style ones. The jail birds rag tag gear makes it even more “fun” to figure out what is going on.


Thanks CM! I've got some of the Jailbirds hanging around somewhere- I think when I get around to them I'm going to primer in a color other than white to get a better idea of what's going on!

 Bash the Bosh wrote:
Love the recent (to me) projects Meer_Cat! And I found point you’ve raised about the idea of modelling and painting for the sheer joy of it quite poignant. I’m in the same category. I don’t game, simply because I don’t really enjoy that side of it. I just enjoy creating and painting something that I can call my own with out having any barriers. I think that element gets lost sometimes with tabletop modelling.

Great stuff as always!


It's good to have you back- Bash! The one governor I had in the past to keep me from buying more than I would ever, ever paint was the stricture that it had to fit into an Army so it cold be gamed. No that I'm customizing everything and starting to scratchbuild more and more, I'm not as tethered to the 'gaming' aspect of things and can give in and just create things for the fun of it, without worrying about 'counts as' or whether a gaming group will let a piece in. I'd play if I could (I think), but between work, fixing up a farm, rescued Shetland ponies and a wife that reasonably expects some attention from time to time- gaming will have to wait!

 CommissarKhaine wrote:
Loving the model Meer_Cat! For eyes, try shading the whole eye socket, then painting into that, it gives adramatic effect and makes it easier to touch up if you have too much white around the eyes. Your colonel and medic wold greatly benefit from that IMHO. Oh, and don't fret about what you're showing us: if you feel like showing PIP, do so. It's your blog, we're just happy you're showing your work


Thanks CK! Believe it or not- my technique for eyes is very close to what you describe. I found a video on Youtube, and the guy said to paint the whole socket a darker color, then fit the white in, then paint vertical thin lines for pupils (rather than try for dots) and trim everything in with skin tones. I've tried it a couple of times now and think I'm getting better at it (compare with the female panzerjaeger from a couple of projects ago) but even with a fine brush I'm still a bit ham-handed, if better than before. I'll give it another whirl and we'll see what comes out with a bit more practice!

 Dr H wrote:
Good effort all round.
Always good to try new things. Only way to improve.

Unfamiliar with the models. Interesting to see.


Thanks Doc! And more new things for me coming up, I reckon. The figures are Raging Heroes KST Troops in resin. They're billed as 'the Toughest Girls in the Galaxy'; I thought they made for good commissars and commanders and such.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/26 22:05:27


Post by: Big H


Hey Meer Cat , great looking figures matey !

I too only paint and, more interesting to me convert, stuff. I like you basic colour layout, personally i'd go a little darker in the recesses, lately I've found purple and blue work surprisingly well on all kinds of colours, particularly in this case of greens and reds instead of perhaps the more usual brown or black which tends to make the piece look "dirty" if done to heavily.

I mostly ignore eyes completely as at this scale they are way too small for my eyes, however i sometimes will paint a turbo thin line of cream for the eye, paint the flesh around it and then let a tiny pool of skin wash form the eye, its the only way i can do it !


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/27 00:37:45


Post by: Syro_


Meer_Cat, you wouldn't bother us with smaller work in progress posts, we visit your blog because we enjoy your work. Though you are right, this is certainly a substantial (and I'll add impressive) post. I especially like the armor and details you picked out on Colonel Ludmilla Magdanova, and the coat on the navy officer. I hate to criticize since it's better than I can do, but the eyes on most of these girls seem to be really bugging out, and I find it distracts from the high quality of the rest of the paint job. I wish I could offer some advice, but I can't paint details that small, and I've completely given up on trying to paint eyes, I just fill the eye area on my models with a dark wash and call it day.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/27 01:32:30


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Big H wrote:
Hey Meer Cat , great looking figures matey !

I too only paint and, more interesting to me convert, stuff. I like you basic colour layout, personally i'd go a little darker in the recesses, lately I've found purple and blue work surprisingly well on all kinds of colours, particularly in this case of greens and reds instead of perhaps the more usual brown or black which tends to make the piece look "dirty" if done to heavily.

I mostly ignore eyes completely as at this scale they are way too small for my eyes, however i sometimes will paint a turbo thin line of cream for the eye, paint the flesh around it and then let a tiny pool of skin wash form the eye, its the only way i can do it !


quote=Syro_ 717308 9949777 6829858d63fba14ed8dfa5380ea9abdd.jpg]Meer_Cat, you wouldn't bother us with smaller work in progress posts, we visit your blog because we enjoy your work. Though you are right, this is certainly a substantial (and I'll add impressive) post. I especially like the armor and details you picked out on Colonel Ludmilla Magdanova, and the coat on the navy officer. I hate to criticize since it's better than I can do, but the eyes on most of these girls seem to be really bugging out, and I find it distracts from the high quality of the rest of the paint job. I wish I could offer some advice, but I can't paint details that small, and I've completely given up on trying to paint eyes, I just fill the eye area on my models with a dark wash and call it day.


Hi Big H, Syro- thank you for your observations and suggestions! I may try the wash suggestion, it sounds manageable within my skill level and I've since both y'alls work and like it- it may be the way to go for me. I was discussing this with a friend at work who also paints, and he uses an 00 pen to sort of draw in the pupils. I'm currently using an 0 brush, so maybe I just don't have the right tool yet. I have to agree- except for maybe the color sergeant, the rest are a little pop-eyed, and I'm thinking (shudder) of going back and trying to touch up or redo the eyes, so they're more of a piece with the quality of the rest of the job.

In the meantime, I appreciate your candor and advice- it's why I'm still coming to DakkaDakka so long after I first joined; there is some real substance here, not just a bunch of mean girls forming their own clubs so they can exclude everyone else. I've learned a lot from you folks, and you keep me motivated to try new things!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/04/28 02:50:25


Post by: Yorkright


Command group came out looking great.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 01:17:13


Post by: Meer_Cat


Here are a couple of quick shots of the next project- a mortar battery of the 7th Ladogan Infantry Regiment. I saw these inexpensive wheeled mortar kits on eBay some time ago, they've been cluttering up my workbench for awhile, waiting their turn, and that time is now. The kits are from Technolog/Robogear and, as part of a larger order, came to about US$3.00 each. I like the look of the old Soviet heavy machine guns and mortars on wheeled carriages, so grabbed them up.



They are intended to be a spring loaded toy that goes with one of their gaming systems, so I modified them a little bit and used modeling putty to fill in the gaps in the slot on the top where the loading arm would have gone- I glued the loading arm in place and now what would have been the driver for the round of ammunition has become either an optic of some kind, or a recoil absorber, or something.



I wanted something on the nose of each round to indicate its purpose: high explosive, illumination, smoke, anti-personnel, but didn't want to be bothered freehanding a stripe, or masking and painting a stripe, so I took some 1/4 inch hobby tape in different colors, cut it in half lengthwise and wrapped it around the shell. It's a little thick when viewed close p, but at any reasonable distance it looks pretty good (and will get weathered and washed, to take the shine off). I just have to remember to position the slight overlap in the tape down/hidden when the shells get fitted into the bases.



I debated, but will end up cutting the bottom part of the rounds off- they're just too big as is.

The crews will be a kitbash of GW and DreamForge parts. During one stretch of my time in the military I was a mortarman (81 and 107mm guns), so I'm hoping to take my time during assembly, push my greenstuff skills further and impart some good, realistic articulation to the figures. The peak scene I want to attempt is one crewman fusing a round with an arming wrench. We'll see.

All bets are off if my Empire of Men Kickstarter figures get here before I'm done with this battery!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 12:43:52


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Next time I need to add lobbas to my grots, I'll know where to look . I'll have to look into robogear - I see it pop up on all kinds of conversions, and it looks pretty nice.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 14:32:40


Post by: JohnnyHell


I love the Tehnolog stuff, but hadn’t seen these. They’re great, and don’t need any 40K-ifying/de-toying like their other stuff!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 16:04:22


Post by: Briancj


If my Empire of Men stuff shows up, it's alllllllllll over for me.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 18:28:23


Post by: Yorkright


Loving the mortars, I would imagine if you ever start playing your opponent is going to look at all those tanks and heavy weapons teams and say "Oh $&^&!" Love your stuff Meer keep it up.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 20:43:06


Post by: Apollinaire


Those mortars are brilliant, great idea!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/03 22:09:41


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you for all the responses!

 CommissarKhaine wrote:
Next time I need to add lobbas to my grots, I'll know where to look . I'll have to look into robogear - I see it pop up on all kinds of conversions, and it looks pretty nice.


It turns out that Robogear/Technolog put out all kinds of stuff- including a lot of medieval/historical things that are just crying out to 'grotified'. I have a T-rex walker (much like an armored sentinel) from the Robogear line that needs to get built. And the sets are so cheap, kitbashing and parting out is almost what they were made for!

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I love the Tehnolog stuff, but hadn’t seen these. They’re great, and don’t need any 40K-ifying/de-toying like their other stuff!


I found these and a sort of 'deathray' thing that I ordered along with a couple more tank hulls and anti=aircraft turrets- hadn't seen them before either but they looked like naturals for IG heavy weapons. I don't mind the GW mortar, but it's just not as cool as these jobs with wheeled carriages! "How do you know we will win the war, Comrade General?" "Because our mortars have _wheels_ Grigoriy!"

 Briancj wrote:
If my Empire of Men stuff shows up, it's alllllllllll over for me.


I started out with a 'reasonable' amount of figures in my pledge to put together a good platoon, with a command team, recon squad and three line squads. What I ended up with was most everything from the Empire and enough Dominion stuff to make a good 1000 point per side battle. Really like their figures and vehicles, and when they come in they get first priority. I've kept myself firmly to the rules "one project at a time and it must be finished before you move on" but I'm waiving that when the package gets here.

Yorkright wrote:
Loving the mortars, I would imagine if you ever start playing your opponent is going to look at all those tanks and heavy weapons teams and say "Oh $&^&!" Love your stuff Meer keep it up.


Peace through superior firepower. Or, as I read in someone's blog quote "If your overwhelming force isn't getting the job done- you're not using enough." Thanks, man!

 Apollinaire wrote:
Those mortars are brilliant, great idea!


Thanks Apollinaire!

Actually got some painting and figure shaping in tonight- but won't have any real pics to put up until maybe Monday. Tomorrow after work I head up to the farm and become the loving husband and rescuer of Shetland ponies until pumpkin time Sunday night and I have to go back earning a paycheck- darn that Real Life stuff!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/04 00:41:10


Post by: Briancj


I passed on all the Dominion stuff, the rest goes into my IG as various squadron leaders, etc.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/04 01:37:07


Post by: Meer_Cat


Understood- was thinking to do the same myself; but I've got the core of an Eldar Army going, and somehow I managed to talk myself into a bunch of Dominion- plus a lot of the freebie stretch goals were Dominion as well.

If the Eldar fever passes, I reckon I can flog them on eBay!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/04 02:20:06


Post by: Syro_


The mortars looks good, good eye! I'm constantly tempted to pick up robogear stuff, but haven't fallen to the temptation yet.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/04 18:42:53


Post by: Briancj


Yeah, I'm not sure what I'll do with the Dominion Freebies. Probably send them to someone who needs weirdo alien love.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/04 18:47:37


Post by: Theophony


LOving the mortars, some of their stuff had components that actually fired, I said this one of those?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/05 02:21:47


Post by: Meer_Cat


Just wrapping up a long evening with the ponies, apologies for brevity codes replies:

@Syro: You can find Robogear in individual kits, there are still some starter sets out there and Hoard 'o' Bits carries separate parts for cheap. The one starter set was something like US$60 and came with building components, right vehicle kits and some infantry figures. The infantry themselves are too tall, even for WH40K/GW stuff, but their weapons and backpacks are very useful for bits.

@briancj: I'm particularly looking forward to the Lady What's Her Name, and her pet alien tiger looking thing. That one will be fun to paint just for a vignette, I think. Of course, I have to paint every day for the rest of my life and live to be 100 to get everything painted....

@Theophany: Yes, these had a spring and driver combination that fit inside the barrel and ran through a slot in the top of the barrel/tube. I think that's why the 'ammo' was so long- the bottom section locked with the lug on the driver and when you flicked it, it fired. Too much fun- until someone looses an eye or the cat chases, catches and swallows one!

Thank you all for looking in! I've gotten some of the details painted on the mortars (tires, elevating mechanisms) and expect to start weathering when IB can sit down again. And ma starting to get crews assembled.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/05 04:10:12


Post by: shasolenzabi


Those gals look great! I have the Kurganova Sisters myself. Interesting heavy mortars, should work very good for the army


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/07 21:03:37


Post by: Meer_Cat


 shasolenzabi wrote:
Those gals look great! I have the Kurganova Sisters myself. Interesting heavy mortars, should work very good for the army


Thanks shas! The Raging Heroes line are the first resin figures I've tried (and good to get the experience in, before a metric crap-ton of Empire of Men resin figs hit in the next few weeks!) and among the most detailed I've ever tried. I learned a lot and had some fun along the way.

The mortars are coming along nicely, detail paint done and getting ready to do some (hopefully) light weathering. I say hopefully, because I'm good at heavy dirt, but not so good yet at 'just out of the motor pool but not yet actually in the swamp' levels of dirt. I'm painting a bit on the tubes, then assembling a bit more of a crew figure, then back to painting.

I have (fortuitously enough) three WWII French tankettes that look to be just the right size to act as prime movers for the mortars, so another something new I want to try is to mount the gun with its crew on one base, the tracked prime over on another and insert both into a larger vignette base. I've seen lots of examples here on DakkaDakka, so have that to go by.

Hopefully some more WIP pics tonight, but one way or another, more follows soonest!



Automatically Appended Next Post:
With some incentive from schank23, along with the new mortars and their crews, I retouched my Fleet Officer's coat by painting the trim sections black and trying to pinstripe a red line on that:

Here's what we started with:





Here's what we ended up with:





I like it a lot better- the darker black and the red make it pop, I think (although the other colors, more drab, somber, were a lot more survivable!). Sorry for picture quality, I left my little camera at the farm and took these with my ancient cell phone (but better than no phone or camera at all, for sure!)

I have to chuckle a bit, because one of the first tricks the guy who taught me how to paint Napoleonics gave was outlining in black! After years (decades) of more or less just Imperial Guard and doing everything in camo or greens, I forgot some of the flamboyant basics!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/08 11:32:45


Post by: Syro_


Wow, the new red stripes do really pop. I like the look.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/11 01:32:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


Just a brief update:

The mortars themselves are more or less done; I tried not to over-grunge them, trying for that worn, but kept in serviceable condition look that so many of you are so good at. Apologies for pics again, these are from my phone until I get back to the farm and grab my little camera:





The crewmen figures are nearly completely assembled and I'll be able to start painting them next week. Going for a gaming standard paintjob generally, but want to focus on doing the faces and eyes better- I've not given up yet!

I'm one 60mm base short, but those should be arriving next week also; I have some ideas for terraining them that I want to try, based again on things you folks have shown me. Overall, I'm having a lot of fun with this project: I started it with the idea of going quick and minimal and having some fun with it, to see how those Technolog/Robogear mortars might do, nd so fr I've kept my scope-creeping obsessive compulsiveness in check!

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/11 01:43:27


Post by: JoshInJapan


Those mortars are nifty.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/11 06:53:12


Post by: schank23


Crazy the befor and after. But it really does pop. Those female models are really cool. The standard bearer looked like it was wearing a hat at first. Then after looking at it some more in was the symbol on the flag. And like everyone else has said those mortars are excellent.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/11 15:18:00


Post by: ChaoticMind


I hear little Mortar-y voices whining out “Crew us! Crew ussss!”


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/11 15:38:14


Post by: Briancj


I REALLY want a set of those, now! Great job!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/12 21:43:59


Post by: Dr H


Nice colour additions.

and good mortars too.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/13 00:45:04


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you all for looking in- it was very tempting to embellish the guns more, but I'm trying to stick with a basically acceptable paint job so I can get onto the crew- and another whack at painting faces. I was thinking about building steps, or piling ammo crates, or even attaching a hoist to each gun for loading, as the top of the tube is over the head of your average guardsman. But the mortars are big enough- especially with the wheels- that they are going to be tight on a 60mm base. So I'm doing some minor modification to one crew figure to appear to be stretching up onto tip toe to get the round over the edge, preparatory to dropping. The other two bases will have the gunner adjusting the sight whilst the ammo cutter sets the fuse for one and the third actually firing (I have some ideas for simulating the flare and smoke that might work).

I very much appreciate all your comments and suggestions!

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/13 11:43:48


Post by: Syro_


With the limited amount of hobby time we all have, it's always so tough to decide when to keep working on something and when to move on. The mortars look good. I like the sound of all the embellishments you were tempted to add, it must be tempting to make a gun emplacement display base for them with all those additions that the 60mm bases fit into, but I think your alterations to keep them "stand alone" are a good idea. I'm especially looking forward to how you pull off the tip toe ammo loader.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/13 14:22:35


Post by: Camkierhi


You are going from strength to strength here, wonderful going over the blog again. Fantastic work on the lady and the Mortars are brilliant, want some of those now. Must resist.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/14 23:47:13


Post by: Meer_Cat


Great to see you all over the comments sections again, Cam! And much appreciate you dropping in. I'm getting the crewman assembled for the mortars- and will have another try at painting the faces in detail. I comment from someone earlier reminded me that I wanted to try 'scenic basing' too- the guns and their prime movers on individual bases that sit into a larger base (which could also act as a sort of movement tray, I guess) to make the collective pieces into a vignette of a battery firing by gun (rather than in salvo).

I dug out my circle cutter, but we'll see which comes first: basing the mortars or the Empire of Men figures. It's been a while since I've been this excited about a 'present' coming in the mail- it's good for me.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/15 21:13:21


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Looking good, you really turned those toys into models!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/16 02:02:19


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks, CK!

I've gotten all six crewmen assembled and primered tonight- barring the unexpected (No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!) I should be able to start basecoating tomorrow night.

Per discussion with Doc H a while back, I've put a lot of effort into the 'story' each base (mortar and two crew) will tell. I'm hoping when I composite the individual stories into a vignette that they will have a synergy that tells a greater story. We'll see.

And I get to use my circle cutter and go 'I told you so' to my wife who complained that I would never use it at the time I bought it (several years now). Of course, that 'I told you so' will be the voice inside my head- after 14 years of marriage, I'm not a complete idiot!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/16 05:56:28


Post by: JoshInJapan


A story for each base? I don't think I've ever thought about doing that. I look forward to seeing this in action.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/17 00:10:14


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hi Josh: I'm not thinking of doing anything as elaborate as it may have sounded; what I'm looking for is a sense of why the crew are doing what they are doing, and what can be inferred about the action based on the fixtures and litter on and around the guns, and more broadly, around the vignette. One of the best pieces I've ever seen on DakkaDakka was a small vignette, showing a sniper and a counter-sniper in action. The sniper has all his spotting scope and other paraphernalia out and there are several signs that he's been denned up in this position for awhile- too long, as we find out, because the counter-sniper has worked his way around behind the sniper and is preparing his shot to remove the threat. There's even a crushed Coke can floating in the water, so this may not be a proper sniper at all, but rather a Designated Marksman (in some armies, literally the 'best shot in the platoon' told off to fire selectively at the heavy weapon, the radio, the guy with the best hat or the guy carrying the odd weapon. We find out a lot about what's going on just from the items placed in the scene- that's what I'm going for.

For tonight though, I've had another shot at doing faces: I'm seeing just how well I did at the same time y'all are, because things look very different between looking at them through my magnifier as I paint and when I take a close up photo- and having gone to the trouble to take the photo, tag, it, upload it, size it, copy the link and paste it into this response, by gum I'm going to post it!

Here's some shots:







Still a little bug-eyed- but better, I think. And I believe that the new tricks I'm trying are helping- I need to give it some more practice, but overall I'm more satisfied with these than most of the others I've done that I was really trying on (except for Ludmilla Karganova- I think that big eyed waif look is _good_ on her!).

Here's all six crewman a bit further back; they look like physically challenged guys trying to do tai-chi, but every pose had at least a modicum of thought put into it- (hopefully) they'll look more natural when they take their places on the guns.



As always, I value your honest, unadulterated, unexpurgated opinions, observations and advice. More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/17 01:12:05


Post by: JoshInJapan


Well, you're a better hobbyist than I am if you can do that. I can barely bring myself to stick tufts on bases, and it took me decades to get to this point. I hate basing...

Your faces look pretty good so far. The mold line on that guy in the first photo bugs me, though.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/17 01:37:13


Post by: Meer_Cat


Shoot- when I was doing all the scraping I thought that was where the two armor pieces came together- now you've pointed it ot, it bugs me too and I'll take care of it. Fortunately, I'm not so far along that it will hurt anything! I'm not planning to do a lot more to the faces- a little bit of highlights dry-brushing and maybe some sepia wash around the mouths- but I'm definitely open to suggestions. The two guys with DreamForge soft caps need some hair, too. This whole build was about the chance to try to faces- and especially eyes- more gooder!

Thanks Josh! More follows soonest


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/17 12:59:35


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Definitive improvement in the eye department! That's going to be a nice looking mortar unit once finished


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/18 01:45:14


Post by: Briancj


I absolutely love using the extra space on the weapon team bases to tell a story.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/18 05:35:34


Post by: Yorkright


Catching up on your stuff Meer, can I ask a favor if I send my stuff your way can you do the eyes for me? Mortars and crew are looking good, especially those eyes .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/18 13:08:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Appreciate the kind words York- but I've a ways to go before I'm happy. I've two new techniques I want to try, to see if one fits my "stand across the room and fling paint at things" style of art- we'll see what happens.

I'm particularly taken with a piece that is on the gallery home page right now, and shows up on the first page of the This Week section- I voted for all three picture angles immediately. It's the conversion for an Eldar Howling Banshees Avatar, in the pose of running and hurling a ludicrously large spear. The figure has tremendous animation and motion, and the simple color scheme emphasizes speed and fluid motion (to me, at least). But what really gets me is how well the face was painted- and especially the eyes. There is a look of intense concentration and controlled rage that I think is absolutely superb- exactly the look on my face (I'd like to imagine) when I'm about to throw a pig sticker through a heavily armored, bolter carrying, genetically enhanced Space Marine.

_That's_ my new gold standard! (I'll settle for bronze though).

Thanks for looking in!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/24 00:08:26


Post by: Meer_Cat


Just a quick update- although I've actually had several days in a row now of a) time to paint and b) the inclination to paint- a rare combination!

The crewmen for the mortars are coming along nicely. I had first decided to re-do the faces based on some more research/inspiration on the innerwebz, but then was able to talk myself off that particular ledge and leave well enough alone. I'm happy enough with what I have, and there is always 'next time' to try some new tricks.

I have also started working on the scenic base for the vignette for the mortar battery- I'm not going to mess about with the prime movers on this one, as I want a foreseeable end to the project and building three more tankettes, plus a couple of drivers, pushes the end date out further than I'd like (I have another project in mind already and am mad to get started).

But I did want to pass along my highest recommendation for this circle cutter thing that I picked up at the local arts and crafts store (Michaels, here in the US). It worked very well, and for a thicker material like the foam core board I'm using for the display (glued with Eileen's Tacky Glue to a hunk of 'For Sale' sign plastic) I found that I could score a line on one side, flip the board over and use the pin hole from the first cut as a pilot to run a cut on the backside and the whole circle popped out neat as you please.

Here's a couple of pics, with more to follow:





I've already trimmed the edges and corners to be more freeform and not square, but had already mopped on the glue and weighted the whole thing down with a ton of books when I started this entry.

My replacement 60mm bases haven't arrived yet, but that's okay, because I want to build them up when I have the crew and guns completed and ready to mount. Then some scenic terraining and bob's your uncle!

Thanks for looking in, and as always, your comments, observations, suggestions and constructive criticisms are most welcome.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/05/24 00:15:31


Post by: Syro_


I'm looking forward to see this scenic base when you finish, but now I'm also really curious what the next project is.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/06 01:59:08


Post by: Meer_Cat


Okay- getting close to wrapping this project up! The crewmen are finished, the extra gubbins for the bases are done, the mortars are modified and the individual bases as well as the vignette base are well underway.


First up, here's some shots of the vignette base: I used the circle cutter to shape the inserts for the individual mortar bases, rough shaped the whole thing to look less like a brick and be more free-form, beveled the edges with my X-acto knife (love me some dollar store foam board and a yard sale sign for my plastic pieces):








Next, I spray painted the whole thing a basic brownish color, then painted it with dilute white glue, liberally sprinkled on some dollar store sand and hit it with the brown spray paint again (both the vignette base and the individual bases- being careful not to get any glue or sand down in the recesses in the foam board):





The other project that got wrapped up tonight was building some more shipping tubes for the mortar ammunition- both opened and some still sealed. _Any_ artillery position from small, copany-level mortars up to eight inch self-propelleds will have a mountain of these things piled haphazardly about when a heavy fire mission comes down.

I made these by cutting lengths of appropriately sized styrene tubing (some got two cuts, with one being only folded back to represent the tube being opened and the round removed) and punching out the largest sized diameter chad for the adjustable punch that I had- I think it came out 1/4". Then you just dip the end of the tube in some tacky glue, slide the punch chad onto the end, and Bb's your uncle: closed end shipping tubes:










As you can see, I didn't worry too much about getting the discs firmly seated into the tubes. For one thing, in real life these tubes get the crap beaten out of them- after being removed from ammo boxes- as they get ripped open and kicked around as the ammo cutters get to work. For another, the edges and creases will catch a grey wash right nice after the tubes are base coated flat black- nice contrast for the highlights.


What remains is to mount the mortars and crew, add some detailing mud and rocks to the bases, add some gubbins and then the fire effects. I hope to have this wrapped up in a few days, because I'm very excited to get onto the next project. The Empire of Men figures are now not shipping until the end of the month- so I figure I have time to get another eye-candy piece done.


Thanks for looking in, and your constructive criticism, suggestions and observations are always welcome.

More follows soonest!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/06 19:09:52


Post by: Syro_


Like I've said before, I love how you apply real life experience to your modelling to make piece that just feel right and realistic. Nice work with the circle cutter, I love me some dollar store foam core too (I bought two sheets yesterday). I wondering, I usually peal the paper off of the top side of the foam core when working with it, as I've has it fall off later in the project. Plus my blades hang up on the paper when I'm beveling. How's it working for you? Also, I'm loving the ammo tubes, I'm hoping to see haphazard mounds of them on on near your display base. Maybe as scatter terrain?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/06 23:34:11


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Syro- thanks for checking in!

To tell you the truth, I haven't worked with foam core much, still having fun learning what it can do, and it never occurred to me to peel the top layer of paper off- there's a good idea! 90 degree cuts on this project were no problem, but 45 degree cuts were very rough and scaly- which is really what I wanted- rough stoney look. I can see where loosing the paper on top would allow for finer cuts and more detail- something new to try!

The lot of shipping tubes I've made are all for using on the bigger vignette base, to help fill the empty areas up- mounds are exactly what I had I in mind. I also hadn't thought about making some scatter pieces- but I can saw up some more perfectly good styrene and give that a go too, another good idea! It really doesn't take long for those things to pile up- kicking them out of the way gets to be a real habit.

I reckon I should have mentioned that after putting the diluted white glue on the bases and then dumping the sand on, and then letting it dry and sweeping the excess sand away, before I hit it with the spray can paint I spritzed the bases with hair spray to help 'fix' the sand in place, any that might not have gotten enough glue. I let that dry and then painted and the paint itself also helps stick everything down, but it's the hair spray that keeps the loose sand from flying off from the spray can. Hand pumped bottle of Pantene, also from the dollar store. Read that tip here on DakkaDakka too.


All youse guys teach me a lot!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/06 23:44:22


Post by: JoshInJapan


I like how this project is going so far. Your explanation of shipping tubes really clarified your Narrative Basing idea. I'll have to add that to my arsenal.

Do dollar stores in your area carry foamboard? It's like foamcore without the paper, and it's readily avaiable in 100-yen stores here. I use that now because peeling paper off foam is just too much of a hassle for me.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/07 00:06:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


I'll have to check if the dollar stores here carry normal foam board- but I don't think the ones near me do. I'd prefer it, because I have to be careful with the paper covered stuff when applying the dilute white glue to stick down sand and grass and such- too much and the board warps!

Doc H is a master at 'telling the little story' when he builds and bases a piece. You see a crumpled Coke can or cigarette pack in a corner and know the driver was enjoying a drink or a smoke on one of his runs. Or there's a corner peeling off a packing crate and you know the item has been out in the weather for awhile. The little story isn't what's in the crate, where it's going or who's waiting for it- it's that it has been in transit (or storage) for some time, long enough for a corner to start peeling apart.

That's what I'm going to be trying for with the each of the mortars and the then the battery together- a lot of little stories. We all do it when we add detail to our pieces, whether it's rocks, or a certain kind or style of weathering- there's a reason why things are the way they are.

It's like scratchbuilding or customizing a vehicle. When we put some thought into how things would look as if we had to swing around inside that tank, the tank looks a lot more realistic. When you consider armament hard points, fuel storage, ammo handling, personal gear, crew gear, special equipment and trophies, the vehicle will shape its own story as each of these is realistically added to the whole.

Except for Orks and Grots- for them you can add dakka all day long and it looks realistic!

I'm working on getting better at telling the story- I'br got the rest of my life to get it right and I'm enjoying the ride so far. Can't thank all y'all enough for the encouragement, the interest and the education you've all given me.


More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/08 00:31:33


Post by: Meer_Cat


Briancj- those are _exactly_ what I'm talking about! I crewed a 4.2 inch (107mm) mortar at one point in my nefarious career; these look to be the new 120mm. When you draw ammo you have to bust open the tubes, rig the vanes to add or subtract propellent bags, lay your charge chest out and possibly even fix the fuses in their cavities (timed air, point detonating or delayed detonating). In training, every tube has to be accounted for and returned; in combat, we tended to toss them out of the way. If there was time afterwards we collected them back up, but policing them up was not high on our list of priorities!

I tried for a look something like this on the Phaethon Ammo Hauler build, but I painted the tubes the dun, brownish color that was too close to the base texture colors- they looked dirty, but kind of blended in. This time it's black, baby- all the way!

That's a terrific picture- thanks for posting it!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/08 03:12:07


Post by: Syro_


Wow, that picture looks just like what you're making Meer_Cat. Nice find Brian, and nice build Meer_Cat!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/08 14:22:56


Post by: Briancj


Well, I *AM* a guard player. And have friends in low places. So I knew what to Google-fu for.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/09 22:38:57


Post by: Dr H


 Meer_Cat wrote:
...Doc H is a master at 'telling the little story' when he builds and bases a piece...
*bows humbly*

Good job on the basing and I like your thinking.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 01:37:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


Done as it is going to get! Here is a heavy mortar battery of the Imperial Guard in action. The new things for me on this project were:

* Faces and eyes (again/still)
* More detailed basing
* More extensive use of decals as part of the overall appearance of the guns
* First-tie try at a multi-unit base (the vignette piece)
* Different method for coloring the earth tones


The individual gun themes are:

1) "Hang it on One!" (Position a round for firing on Number One Gun)
2) "Deflection Change!" (Number Two Gun- the base gun of the battery- is shifting the gun to fire a new mission- you can see the Tac-Fire computer on the ammo crate)
3) "Splash- over!" (Number Three Gun has fired, and the gun captainn is advising the Forward Observer that the round is nearig the end of its trajectory. This gives the FO time to bring his binoculars up to observe the fall of shot and pass back either firing adjustment data or battle damage assessment report- it saves the FO from keeping the heavy binos up to his eyes for the whole flight of the shell, which can be quite long, depending on the range of the fire mission.)

*******I tried to get the vignette base done tonight, so I could post the pics, but everything is still drying and some bits need another wash- so individual gun pics tonight, and more of the whole battery tomorrow!*******

The vignette theme is: "Fire Final Protective Fire!" The FPF is a pre-calculated fire mssion that is delivered when the enemy has overrun everything else and is threatening either the battery position of something of high value- a headquarters, hospital, ammo dump, landing zone, etc. In this vignette, you can see that the crew have their personal weapons on them- the gun captain on Gun 2 has his pistol out on the ammo crate right next to his Tac-Fire computer- where he can get at it quick. Mortarmen (at least, back in my day) hated to gun with weapons slung- they bounce around, cause bruises and are generally a nuisance. unless the baddies are _really_ close and you want to be able to mix it up on equal terms. An FPF also means that you throw everything including the kitchne sink- high explosive, white phosphurous, armor piercing, illumination, every round of ammuntion you have left, because it is highly likely the guns are going to get overrun too.

This was a lot of fun to do, but I''ve got to find a better basing material for the vginette sized piece than foam board and yard sale sign plastic- the foam board warps form the white glue being put on- even with weight on top! Maybe stripping the paper cover off, like Syro does, would help.

Also, need all y'alls advice on how to make the smoke plume on Gun Three look better. It's okay as is, but I think could be more better.

Here's the pics:

The Battery:

********To be posted tomorrow!************


Gun One (Hang it on One!):









Gun Two (Deflection Change!):











Gun Three (Splash, Over!):









Your observations and constructive criticism are always welcome.

More follows soonest!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 08:39:26


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


Oh these are great!
Well done.
The only quirk I have is the muzzel effect on the mortar...
They usally aren't that "smokey"... if you know what I mean.
More like this


or this


But really, this is just nit-picky
They are great!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 10:32:02


Post by: Meer_Cat


Nope you're right, Klaus (and good to hear from you!)- we need some fire in here. The muzzle effect is detachable from the mortar, so it'll b easy to play around with.

Thanks for the input!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 15:11:10


Post by: Syro_


The mortar teams look great, and as always so much individuality. Mortar one is probably my favorite, but it really cracks me up that the gun captain is watching Sponge Bob. As for advice on gun three's smoke plume, I would suggest attaching some cotton ball or fiber fill to what ever you attach to the mortar barrel, and pull it apart pretty thoroughly and have it pretty wispy. The hit it with some spray primer or hair spray, etc, to stiffen it up, then add the colors for the fire and smoke as you want.
Once again, looks great. I'm looking forward to the finished vignette base.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 16:31:32


Post by: ChaoticMind


 Syro_ wrote:
The mortar teams look great, and as always so much individuality. Mortar one is probably my favorite, but it really cracks me up that the gun captain is watching Sponge Bob. As for advice on gun three's smoke plume, I would suggest attaching some cotton ball or fiber fill to what ever you attach to the mortar barrel, and pull it apart pretty thoroughly and have it pretty wispy. The hit it with some spray primer or hair spray, etc, to stiffen it up, then add the colors for the fire and smoke as you want.
Once again, looks great. I'm looking forward to the finished vignette base.


I was gunna say, that computer doesn’t look like it’s going to be that useful for figuring out how to reset the mortar.

As for the smoke it looks good as is but thinner/wispier would probably be better for indicating that the round wasn’t just launched.

Other than that they’re looking good!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/13 22:27:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Here's the (almost) last stage, with the three guns set in their battery vignette stand. Overall, I'm fairly pleased with how things came out, just need to find a better basing material than foam core and yard sign plastic. I fooled around with a couple of desk lamps, trying to get better light on the subject, so the lighting in some places is a little odd. But, I'm pushing the edge of the envelope. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

The last thing to do is fiddle with the smoke/fire effects for Gun Three. I've an idea of what I want to try thanks to the combined inputs from Klaus, Syro and ChaoticMind (thanks gang!) and we'll see what works out.

Here's some pics:



























Whew!




sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/14 02:22:55


Post by: Syro_


I love how the vignette base looks with all the piles of supplies everywhere, you did a great job. The real low angle shots you took where the view travels up over the gear to see the soldiers is really cool. Good luck with that smoke & fire effect you're working on.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/14 02:34:10


Post by: JoshInJapan


That's a nifty little vignette. Seeing all the clutter scattered around really does tell a little story. Thanks for sharing.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/14 12:13:21


Post by: Big H


There’s no way that’s a realistic mortar line MeerCat !
There’s no guys in shorts sunbathing or somebody cooking up bacon and eggs !


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/14 20:47:29


Post by: Briancj


I picked up three of these soon-to-be-heavy-mortars.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/15 00:10:18


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Syro_ wrote:
I love how the vignette base looks with all the piles of supplies everywhere, you did a great job. The real low angle shots you took where the view travels up over the gear to see the soldiers is really cool. Good luck with that smoke & fire effect you're working on.


Thanks Syro- I think your suggestion to work with cotton balls or batting and stiffening it with hairspray is the way to go. I did something a bit similar years ago for a Royal Horse Artillery rocket battery (Napoleonics), wanted to have the battery lighting off. I may change the name of Gun Three's theme from "Splash, over" to "Shot, out"- I'd like the gun to have just fired a round- really, just like the picture Klaus posted- you can _see_ the round inside the smoke and flame!

 JoshInJapan wrote:
That's a nifty little vignette. Seeing all the clutter scattered around really does tell a little story. Thanks for sharing.


Thanks Josh! It didn't come out quite like I'd planned (this is what happens when you have only a vague idea in your head to start with) but I'm satisfied with it. I think the biggest thing I learned this go 'round is to _not_ over-crowd the vignette base with junk! A little cluttered is good- too much might be too much.

 Big H wrote:
There’s no way that’s a realistic mortar line MeerCat !
There’s no guys in shorts sunbathing or somebody cooking up bacon and eggs !


Too true Big H! Your comment reminded me of a picture I saw from the Libyan civil war: one the special Toyotas fitted out with a 25mm gun was firing in the background; in the foreground was a guy sitting on a cheap folding lawn chair, drinking a coffee and smoking a water pipe. The caption wrote itself: Dude- stop harshing my mellow! I may have to try to capture that in an Imperial Guard vignette one day.

 Briancj wrote:
I picked up three of these soon-to-be-heavy-mortars.


Good on ya, Brian- there are some of the Technolog/Robogear/Bronekorpus pieces that are really slick to work with for Warhammer 40k; I look forward to seeing what you make of them!

Thanks all for looking in- more follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/17 19:15:10


Post by: Dr H


Good job all round.
Nice scattering of details.
Interesting to read about the specialist knowledge of how this kind of thing works.

A few thoughts for the future:
The basing is a bit "flat-with things stuck on". This makes the mortar teams look a bit exposed (I would expect them to be hiding behind something, but maybe that's not the thing that is actually done...?). Some landscaping on the display base, keeping the individual bases flat as they are, a rocky outcropping, sandbag walls, large bush, etc. would help.

Speaking of bushes, some plant-life (something I mention a lot for anyone asking how to make a model's base more "real". You have some flocking, but that doesn't stand out in the photos (more on that below). A bush or large clumps of grass, weeds, pretty flowers... etc. would break up the flatness of the base. Depends on setting though... you can't add much plant life to a desert setting obviously.

Details for more story, Add a tea/coffee cup/mug somewhere. It always fools the observer into thinking you've spent hours constructing the model (after all, you have) and you get the "wow you EVEN added a coffee cup" type comments. Just one, somewhere, is worth tens of other details all over the model. Obviously, this only* works for places where mugs are typically found...

*Although, a random mug in a marsh (or a desert in place of the plants you can't add) could tell an interesting story...

Photos:
Just like painting, more light is always better. The camera will scale down the brightness much better than upping dim lighting.
Beyond that, daylight bulbs do help a camera get the colour balance right.

But even then, some tinkering with the brightness and colour balance may be necessary on the computer.
The colour balance is mainly what you are missing here.
You don't need to buy any fancy software either, I use the Windows 10 built in "photos" program. All you need is to look for the "warmth" setting (edit>colour>warmth) and move it left/right until the picture looks right to you (a background of known colour can really help get it right). Sometimes that's all you need.

Hopefully some of that helps.
Good job. Nice work on getting the bases fitting in neatly too.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/18 23:04:56


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Doc- and thank you for such a thoughtful (and extensive!) reply, I really appreciate the feedback. I knew there was something about this project: I'd put too much work into it not to like it better- if that makes sense! Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased at how much of what I set out to do I accomplished- the big thing being the try at insetting individual heavy weapon bases into a larger piece.


In fact, that's the first corollary I got from your feedback- I kept saying 'vignette' but I was thinking 'movement tray'. And what I wanted was 'vignette'! So your observations about a flat bit with things stuck on is highly accurate. In many ways I feel I'm still transitioning from painting/scratching pure 'gaming pieces' into something more artful, and I'm happy to make the trip in small steps rather than long strides.


Believe it or not, I've gunned mortars in terrain somewhat similar to what I tried to depict here- flat and sandy and barren. But, with as much kit as is scattered about, even if the guns hadn't been dug in, they'd have had shade or camo nets strung up over them (solider are religiously opposed to sweating unless someone else is doing it). To make a model visually interesting though, it needs some 'wave' to the ground. I had a crack at that with the armored car conversion, and want to give it another go on the next project- only more betterer.

Towards the end I also had a small case of 'get-it-done-itis'. I know I skimped on some details I could have added from what I have on hand, and others that I could have fabricated or ordered in fairly easily. Oddly, one of the things I wanted to tuck in was a coffee cup- maybe even a whole small brew-up scene with a spirit cooker, coffee pot, couple of cups, that would have given some sense of how quickly the fire mission had come down. Things to remember for the next one (which I already have in my mind).

Towards which end I have to admit that I may actually have to start doing a small sketch or something to keep the basic idea in mind, even if I let it evolve as it grows. Producing figures for me (forty years ago) was getting them out of the box and throwing paint at them from across the room. Now, I scrape the seams (need more patience), play with the arrangement of arms, legs, think about what combat equipment I'm going to add, primer, (try to) do faces, base paint, wash, highlight, wash again- and with resin now I have to wash and scrub that stuff before it'll glue up- never knew I had it in me!


Kicking and screaming I'm starting to routinely employ the techniques that you fellows whose work I admire use to produce first rate pieces. My dad taught amateur photography at one point in his orbit and used to tell his students: "You want to take a great picture? Take a lot of pictures." If I want to produce good looking pieces, I need to apply a little imagination and do the things that the good artists do!


Too easy.

Thanks again for the guidance- you'll see it show up one day in a project- I promise you!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/18 23:33:14


Post by: Dr H


 Meer_Cat wrote:
Hey Doc- and thank you for such a thoughtful (and extensive!) reply,
No problem. I sometimes tend to get carried away when leaving feedback; it'll start with "just a quick note" and I keep adding to it and an hour later I'm still typing.

...even if I let it evolve as it grows...
And that reminds me, I forgot to comment on this (at least I think it was you who mentioned about the project not turning out as you intended).
I've found that the more scratch-built a model becomes (as in kit > kit-bashing > converting > scratch-building) the more it wants to take on a life of it's own, and that may take it away from the initial plan / inspiration.
I say, embrace it; don't fight the model if it wants to go off in a different direction, or calls for an addition / removal, going with the flow will lead to a better final product.

That's why you'll see me commenting on my projects in the early stages with "we'll all see how it turns out in the end" or "I'm also interested to see how it turns out".
It's because I've fully embraced the model leading the progress; it starts with a piece of inspiration or idea from me, and I let it grow organically from there.

That method might not fit with everyone, but a little of letting the model go it's own way, can help everyone.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/19 01:51:52


Post by: Yorkright


Great vignette Meer, that gunner watching Spongebob may be in trouble with the Commissar though.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/19 08:29:05


Post by: oldravenman3025


Awesome looking mortar teams, Boss. Sweet.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/19 10:15:57


Post by: kestral


That Laptop is amazing!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/19 22:59:45


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hi all- thank you for looking in!

I'm pleased with how the laptop came out- but already have some ideas to try for the next one (and yep- the next project will require a laptop). I got the basic concept from Camkierhi- if you go back in his blog a few weeks you see where he (nonchalantly) whipped out a dozen or so computer panels for a laboratory he was making.

I'm actually a little chuffed about the Spongebob screen: I went through the newspaper sales flyers and found the image I wanted, clipped it to size and used Decal Fix to attach it to the laptop screen. Wasn't sure if it would hold, but it did and gave it a bit of a glazed look, like a computer screen IMO.

Havne't had time until tonight, but am going to fool aorund with a better smoke effect for Number 3 Gun- more follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/20 00:00:28


Post by: Private Benjamin




The scenic base for all three Heavy Weapon Squads is awesome!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/20 00:40:52


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Private Benjamin! In a way, they're modeled a bit after the movement trays you were showing in your blog. As an artilleryman yourself, I was hoping you wouldn't think they looked too ridiculous- very glad you dropped in to take a look!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/20 18:10:37


Post by: monkeytroll


Unit looks really nice together.

On the smoke, if shell three is nearing the end of trajectory, smoke is going to be more sparse and wispy, so teased out cotton wool (or toy stuffing) is going to be the way to go I think.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/20 22:39:39


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey monkeytroll-thanks for stopping by and for the advice! You're right, even firing a close range FPF, by the time 'splash; is called, most of the smoke (at least what little there is from 20th and 21st century propellants) will have dispersed. Now, the 41st millennium still hasn't discovered or re-discovered the weld and insists on using rivets, so they may not have smokeless powder, cordite, or gun cotton, either!

So, given the photo that Klaus posted up, the vignette title is now 'Shot, over' and Gun 3 has just fired. You don't see the crewman who hung the round, because he is scampering off to grab another round, even as we see another ammo cutter fusing a round directly behind the gun, waiting for the command to step forward and hang it.


I've gotten some good work done in that regard using the teased out cotton that you and Syron have suggested- I think it's going to look very good (definitely better than the dwarf lead belcher smoke screen I had before). If I can get some good work in tonight, I'll be able to get some pics up.


I've even played with some (very limited) greenstuff sculpting- if I'm not careful I'll become a modern modeler!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/21 08:07:31


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


 Meer_Cat wrote:
Hey monkeytroll-thanks for stopping by and for the advice! You're right, even firing a close range FPF, by the time 'splash; is called, most of the smoke (at least what little there is from 20th and 21st century propellants) will have dispersed. Now, the 41st millennium still hasn't discovered or re-discovered the weld and insists on using rivets, so they may not have smokeless powder, cordite, or gun cotton, either!

So, given the photo that Klaus posted up, the vignette title is now 'Shot, over' and Gun 3 has just fired. You don't see the crewman who hung the round, because he is scampering off to grab another round, even as we see another ammo cutter fusing a round directly behind the gun, waiting for the command to step forward and hang it.


I've gotten some good work done in that regard using the teased out cotton that you and Syron have suggested- I think it's going to look very good (definitely better than the dwarf lead belcher smoke screen I had before). If I can get some good work in tonight, I'll be able to get some pics up.


I've even played with some (very limited) greenstuff sculpting- if I'm not careful I'll become a modern modeler!

More follows soonest!

Hehe, if you're not happy with the cotton (I never was) and you're already at it with GreenStuff, maybe try it this way:


Well, smaller than this howitzer blast, but you get the gist

Or like this one on the POLEMOS

Good luck!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/22 22:57:32


Post by: Meer_Cat


I remember seeing how you did these effects in your blog, Klaus. I'm at the farm for the weekend, but when I'm back at my bench on Monday will try the greenstuff approach. I'm halfway through messing about with the cotton- I've actually used that technique before- and fairly well like the results; but I'll post both up when finished and see what you all think.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/22 23:20:42


Post by: schank23


Holy gak. Someone may have already said this but when I saw the sponge bob on the lap top of one of the mortar teams I busted out laughing. That’s one of the best Easter eggs I have ever seen on a model.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/23 13:09:39


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Schank! I have to admit, the idea came from the guy that had the gunner on an Imperial Hydra playing Pac Man on the gunnery console. I'm glad it worked out as well as it did here and that people find it amusing. I had some fun with this one!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/23 21:17:20


Post by: Wirecat


 Meer_Cat wrote:
I had some fun with this one!


That is what counts, and may I say, it was hilarious and well executed idea. I am a sucker for hidden easter eggs and special effects so this is a double win for Your mortar crews in my book.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/26 23:57:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


In between running between the raindrops with RL, I have been getting some things done on wrapping up the mortar battery. When last we tuned in, our hero was attempting to make a better muzzle flash for Number 3 Gun (which has been renamed from "Splash, Over" to "Shot, Out").

I'm trying two different techniques: one using cotton ball wisps and some other odds and ends, and the second going with greenstuff work, a' la Klaus- Not Santa. Up to this point, I'm having a lot of fun with both and look forward to all y'alls feedback when I can get finished pictures up.

Here are the materials for the cotton ball approach:



I've got a short ring that is the diameter of the interior diameter of the mortar tube (not in this picture, naturally), a very small diameter bit of tube to attach the cotton wisps to, the cotton balls and I'm embedding one of the steel flechettes I picked up awhile ago to give the suggestion of the round going up.


As it turns out, I couldn't cut the flechette with anything I had in my apartment in Virginia, so instead sharpened a bit of sprue and glued it into the pipette and ring collar:




Here's for the greenstuff route:




As it turns out here, I didn't need the central pipette to use as a foundation to support the greenstuff, I just had to straighten the GS as it cured as it wanted to slump a bit until it had hardened fully. I also (never having worked with GS before) 'way over-estimated the amount of GS I needed to do the job. I made _two_ muzzle flashes (in case I wanted to amke Gun 2 in the act of firing, or need it for a future project) and still had a ton left over:



I may try to make another (one or two or three, depending on how closely I jusge the GS amount) tonight, as these are a bit more rounded than what Klaus demonstrates in his blog (although for low-velocity weapons like mortars, that may be a good thing) and I want to try adding a belt around the bottom third mark, to pull out into a smoke ring like the real life photos show- we'll see if there is time. And I'm anxious to get to painting these, to see how they look with paint and washes on.


So here's what I did with the rest of the GS:








It came out to a couple of tarps with straps, a couple of blanket or tent rolls, an extra cargo strap coiled up and a pallet pile of goods (a' la Dr. H) with a tarp partially covering a pile of artillery shells (or gas canisters, rice containers or whatever is needed).

I'm actually pretty chuffed with this last bit, as the 'shells' are actually baby bottle party favors from the dollar store, glued down to a scrap piece of diamond pattern tread plate, with the tarp partially slung over the top. I think it looks pretty good already- but you guys will gently steer me back to reality if I'm kidding myself! This, I know!

So, more follows soonest. I have to pick aprt the cotton on the other muzzle flash and finish that off with some washes, and get some primer on the two greenstuff flashes to see how that comes out.

Your comments, observations, criticisms and suggestions are always very welcome.

It ain't done, until it's overdone!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 02:15:08


Post by: monkeytroll


Good use of the extra GS there, particularly like the partially unwrapped tarp.

Pallet looks good, only thing I'll add is to have at least the suggestion of a connection/closure point on the strapping.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 02:34:28


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Monkeytroll! Next go-round I figure to try carving in some more details, for these I reckon to shave some plastic bits and glue on for buckles. I tried to carve in buckles on the straps on the bedrolls- I believe I can do a lot better than that with practice. Also got to give more tools a tr- I did what little I have here just with the ends of my wide set of tweezers; from the YouTube videos I've now watched there's a lot of other common household items I can try for different effects.

Too much fun!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 09:36:31


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


 Meer_Cat wrote:
In between running between the raindrops with RL, I have been getting some things done on wrapping up the mortar battery. When last we tuned in, our hero was attempting to make a better muzzle flash for Number 3 Gun (which has been renamed from "Splash, Over" to "Shot, Out").

I'm trying two different techniques: one using cotton ball wisps and some other odds and ends, and the second going with greenstuff work, a' la Klaus- Not Santa. Up to this point, I'm having a lot of fun with both and look forward to all y'alls feedback when I can get finished pictures up.

Here are the materials for the cotton ball approach:



I've got a short ring that is the diameter of the interior diameter of the mortar tube (not in this picture, naturally), a very small diameter bit of tube to attach the cotton wisps to, the cotton balls and I'm embedding one of the steel flechettes I picked up awhile ago to give the suggestion of the round going up.


As it turns out, I couldn't cut the flechette with anything I had in my apartment in Virginia, so instead sharpened a bit of sprue and glued it into the pipette and ring collar:




Here's for the greenstuff route:




As it turns out here, I didn't need the central pipette to use as a foundation to support the greenstuff, I just had to straighten the GS as it cured as it wanted to slump a bit until it had hardened fully. I also (never having worked with GS before) 'way over-estimated the amount of GS I needed to do the job. I made _two_ muzzle flashes (in case I wanted to amke Gun 2 in the act of firing, or need it for a future project) and still had a ton left over:



I may try to make another (one or two or three, depending on how closely I jusge the GS amount) tonight, as these are a bit more rounded than what Klaus demonstrates in his blog (although for low-velocity weapons like mortars, that may be a good thing) and I want to try adding a belt around the bottom third mark, to pull out into a smoke ring like the real life photos show- we'll see if there is time. And I'm anxious to get to painting these, to see how they look with paint and washes on.


So here's what I did with the rest of the GS:








It came out to a couple of tarps with straps, a couple of blanket or tent rolls, an extra cargo strap coiled up and a pallet pile of goods (a' la Dr. H) with a tarp partially covering a pile of artillery shells (or gas canisters, rice containers or whatever is needed).

I'm actually pretty chuffed with this last bit, as the 'shells' are actually baby bottle party favors from the dollar store, glued down to a scrap piece of diamond pattern tread plate, with the tarp partially slung over the top. I think it looks pretty good already- but you guys will gently steer me back to reality if I'm kidding myself! This, I know!

So, more follows soonest. I have to pick aprt the cotton on the other muzzle flash and finish that off with some washes, and get some primer on the two greenstuff flashes to see how that comes out.

Your comments, observations, criticisms and suggestions are always very welcome.

It ain't done, until it's overdone!


Wow!
And this is really the first time you use GS?
Very WELL DONE!
The belt buckles look fantastic!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 18:04:15


Post by: Briancj


VERY well done, you're a natural. Remember, wet your fingers/tools when working with GS.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 18:48:35


Post by: Flinty


Really liking the GS work. Fantastic start

On the pallet, I would suggest something underneath to.raise it up.a bit like a real pallet. I have used some simple.sprue offcuts for this purpose myself, but any vaguely oblong thing in 2 or 3 strips.underneath would.do.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/27 21:12:26


Post by: Dr H


Good work.

For cotton wool, Take a look at my two Bladerunner vehicles I did. You can flatten the wool out into a directional "flow" and then don't mess with the fluffy side of things too much, let it do it's thing.

Good effort on the GS things.
I've used little metal things, or card for buckles in the past. Works better for me than sculpting them.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/28 00:09:33


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you all for your very generous comments. I really don't believe I have any natural talent with greenstuff- but what I do have is the benefit of everything I have seen here and on YouTube to help learn how it's done before ever I touched the stuff! As Sir Isaac Newton said as he was accepting recognition from the Royal Society after devising calculus: "Gentlemen, if I have seen anything at all, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants." And yes- I just equated our modeling hobby with calculus.

Klaus- thank you very much for your kind words. I can't tell you how much it means that someone with your DakkaDakka accomplishments checks in to see how I'm getting on- thank you!

Briancj: Thank you as well- you also have a great record of accomplishment here. The one thing I did learn by myself was to wet my fingers and my tools as I went along- none of the videos thought to show that part! One fellow did recommend using a bit of dollar store mirror as a working surface though- slicker, less apt to have thin, delicate parts stick.

Flinty: You have work that has pushed me to try to emulate- thank you also. I took your advice and added some skids to the underside of the diamond pattern tread plate and I agree, it looks a lot more realistic. I think originally I had envisioned this as welded to an AFV hull- but this is more gooder and a lot more versatile to use. Primered here and a start to basecoating:





Doc: Thank you too- I hold your work in high esteem. I've revisited your Bladerunner vehicles and will be employing those techniques on Muzzle Flash Type 1. I definitely want to add the buckles- the straps do truly look 'off' without something to show they are functional.

I wasn't kidding when I mentioned on Gitsplitta's blog the other day that I had also dropped US$30 on more Technolog/Robogear bits- here's $12 of it:





I included the counts-as Hydra conversion (which is a Bronekorpus SPAAG) nd the Eisenkern Panzerjaeger for scale. The artillery pieces are hard plastic- not engineer/soft plastic or resin, and I'm pretty sure that I can get the bend out of the barrels with some gentle pressure. For the first time ever (and I've bought a lot of junk from them) a piece came damaged- you can see the one tire broken off. Which is okay, as I'm going to be cutting the guns off the carriages anyway and trying to build something like this:



You guys have ruined me. First I no longer buy model kits to bash together- you've got me scratchbuilding things. Now you've got me carving my own bits and fashioning things from greenstuff. What's next? Go full Camkierhi and blend my own resin casting powders from iron filings and iguana spit? I truly can't thank you guys enough for the ideas, the examples, the advice and the encouragement.

I'm on a building and painting waaaauuuuggghhh!!! just now and having a blast.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/28 02:42:54


Post by: Syro_


I really like how the tarps turned out. Like monkettroll said, very good use of extra green stuff. It looks like you put a lot of time and effort into those two green stuff muzzle flash explosions of smoke. I hope to see more sculpting from you in the future.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/28 16:53:47


Post by: Briancj


I want those cannons. o.O

My order came in. We should team up and do a series of 'upcycling' these.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/28 22:05:09


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Syro- thank you! Believe it or not, the flashes themselves didn't take all that long (but we'll see how they come out painted up!). Klaus- not Santa has a couple of places in his blog where he shows how to do this- I'll try to scout through and pull the pages numbers so they're easier to find. The hardest things to do were not get fingerprints on 'em as I worked and keep them from slumping as they cured.


Hey Briancj- you're on! I've done a couple of conversions using Robogear/Technolog bits now- would love to collaborate on a tutorial or even an article. We just have to figure out what we're going to do!

I hope to get some painting on the muzzle flashes in tonight- anxious to compare cotton ball wisps to greenstuff approaches. More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/30 13:08:02


Post by: Wirecat


Very good scatter! Looks fairly believable and add a neat touch to the battlefield. Technolog is good, it is just me being a spoiled old brat that stays with more serious boxes... please ignore me grumbling. Regarding cotton balls - sometimes it works when wetting them in PVA glue, leaving them to dry overnight and then tearing them into small blobs before glueing them back together into a single fluff. Takes some time and more effort, but may better represent the fine structure of muzzle gases expanding. Elaborating a bit on what Dr. H have said - take a toothpick or a bit of wire like a straightened paper clip, coat it with undiluted PVA and let it dry completely. Then wrap it around with cotton dipped in somewhat diluted PVA and holding it like a brush start slowly pull its strands down and out. Can make a nice muzzle flash - or a minor explosion.

Cheers!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/30 22:57:40


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks for the tips, Wirecat- I'm still fooling around with the start of the cotton-wisps one, so can incorporate what you're suggesting here. I should be able to wrap this little experiment up on Monday!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/06/30 23:09:33


Post by: Alaricuk


Love what your coming up with, lots of inspiration.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/01 21:06:10


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Alaricuk! I'm looking to wrap this project up and get on to the next- I've got a ton of things I want to try:

- Got a new AA cannon from Tehnolog that I want to mount a on a scratch-built chassis for a mobile flakveirlung
- Got a set of Concorde infantry that need building
- Have an idea to do a UAV team launching a light Talon-class platform with rockets
- More stuff bouncing around

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/08 07:18:36


Post by: Camkierhi


Dude that GS work was brilliant. Excellent stuff, looking forward to seeing that list of projects develop.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/09 23:16:07


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Cam! I'm afraid my modeling 'waaauuugghhh' became more of a 'wheeee!' as real life kicked in (nothing bad, just had a couple days catching repairs and general maintenance up on the farm), but I'm getting back into stride again. _Sooo_ many things to try!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/10 11:08:29


Post by: Theophony


Your green stuffing skills are just crazy good.

Now you have me thinking with those cannons...man I don’t need another side project .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/12 02:51:51


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Theo- there are a lot of other things to try with greenstuff; right now I'm at the 'Becky Home-ecky' with her rolling pin stage, kinda.

Here's a shot of how those little extra bits of greenstuff came out:



I'm finishing up painting the muzzle flashes, to include finishing up the one made with cotton ball wisps and hope to have pics of those up tomorrow so you'ns can tell me which looks the best. There's one more style I want to try to make out of greenstuff, but I'm also itching to get going on another project, and so far I've been pretty good about sticking to one job at a time, mostly.

The next project? Even with this bad picture, if I can't make something Necromunda-ish/Industrial terrain out of all this junk, then I need to get off DakkaDakka!



More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/12 04:09:34


Post by: Syro_


Those tarps and other gear you made out of extra green stuff turned out great!
I'm looking forward to seeing what you create out of that pile of junk


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/14 15:46:14


Post by: Dr H


Good use of spare GS. I tend to make tentacles out of spare putty... they come in handy from time to time.

Look forward to what becomes of that collection of stuff.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/16 23:18:33


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Syro, Doc! briancj made me aware of the defensive terrain contest for the next League of Riveters thing and I may have to see if I can find a way to bend the junk into a warren stronghold, or some such.


I also just saw Alariuk's latest 'afternoon's fun work' on his Craneblade blog- an industrial complex made out of a couple of cans and some plastic caps and looks proper awesome! And I'm wild to try something like that too.


So far, a lack of imagination and inspiration is not one of the problems I suffer from!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/18 23:59:45


Post by: Meer_Cat


So, this is as much fiddling with muzzle flashes and smoke plumes as I'm going to do, for now. I'm not entirely satisfied with the look, but I'm going in the right direction and I've learned a lot during the trip.

First, here's the 'store boughten' smoke I found on eBay- it really is for more of a steam engine, burning fire kind of effect and not a mortar detonation, but I'm not actually that unhappy with it. I still maintain, if they are still using rivets in the 41st millennium, then they probably lost the art of smokeless powder, gun cotton and advanced propellents as well:



Now, here's a couple of shots of the 'cotton wisp' method. I know I can do better, even with this one (which probably could have used some ersatz-nuln oil wash to darken it, for starters). This particular effort looks too much like a rocket exhaust, not so much a mortar round going off. Again, not terribly disappointed, but I like my greenstuff flashes (coming up) better:





Next, here's Gun Three with a muzzle flash fashioned from greenstuff. There's a basecoat of White on there, and then 87 layers of various washes. Not entirely satisfied, but more towards what I wanted. When/if I hit this again, I want to add a 'belt' of greenstuff around the base of the plume, so that I can tease that out into a smoke ring (looking much more like the pic that Klaus, Not Santa posted here earlier). For one thing, the 'smoke' part is too yellow/brownish- I was going for more white/grey/black with yellow and red 'fire' flecks:



Here's Guns Two and Three firing for effect, and Hanging on Gun One:



Closer up of Guns Two and Three:



And a back shot of the whole battery again:



Like I said, I'm moving on for now, but believe this is a decent effort and certainly good enough to play on a proper table against an able foe. There was a little ditty they made us learn when I was on the mortar square qualifying with my buddies as gunners:

"Death and destruction and high angle hell,
For thirty-five meters the casualties fell.
With guts on the ground and limbs in the sky
When the 81's bark- everyone dies.
Boom boom, out go the lights!"

81's were the 81mm mortars we gunned on, then later we moved onto serving 120's. 35 meters is the kill radius of an 81mm mortar shell, the wound radius was supposed to be 60 meters. In proportion to the crewmembers, these Tehnolog toys scale out to 160, maybe 180mm heavy mortars.

And now, for something completely different- the next project is going to be an entry into the Riveters' Terrain Competition. I've settled on a Necromunda/Industrial style strongpoint. Obviously, I will now have to purchase some gangers to man the fortifications and I'm partial to House Escher.


Here's the original pile of junk again:




And here's what I have after some frenzied effort- you can see it's almost finished:




You have us surrounded (poor fething b-tards) you may as well surrender now! Mwuhahahahahaha!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/19 01:15:08


Post by: Theophony


Out of the muzzle flashes I think I prefer your greenstuff ones. It may not be “realistic”, but it invokes what I feel it should look like, which is what our little toy soldiers represent.

Scale wise, 40k is all about oversized weapons, so a scale 160mm mortar is probably a light mortar in the 40k universe. They look perfectly appropriate for guard guns.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/21 14:23:28


Post by: Dr H


Good work.
Yeah, the first one looks a bit too cartoonish to match what you've built, but could have it's uses.

Agree with what you said about the cotton wool one.
Painting can tend to make it look less fluffy, I found that a "layer" of pure, fluffy, cotton wool over a painted core can look better; kind of what you have, but with a fluffy cloud at the muzzle.

The GS ones look nice

Could even do a combined version; recreate the first one's shape in fluffy cotton about a core of GS, with the tip sticking out... that might be nice. [/thinking out loud]


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/31 01:33:50


Post by: Meer_Cat


Sorry all for the long pause between postings, and especially for replying to you Theo, and you, Dr H- I greatly appreciate you coming by and offering your candid opinions and advice. I think as regards the muzzle flashes, I'm going to combine both y'alls words and try for a greenstuff core, with some cotton wisp around the bottom and see if that gets the look I'm going for- I'm optimistic, because I can see the finished effect, and that's usually a good sign, for me.

I'm coming off a real-life, work intensive period that has left me absolutely not wanting to paint or model by the time I drag myself in to home. So tonight is really the first night getting some time in, and as always, the minute I sit down and start touching the materials, I can't stop.

So here's the start of my defensive piece for the Riveters' contest. As originally envisioned, it'll be a piece of Industrial or Necromunda terrain: a Promethium Works or chemicals plant that's a strategic goal and tactical target, therefor reinforced and hardened as best as the defenders can with limited skills, resources and inclination (if they're gangers).


As always, the best basing material (for cheap) that I've come across so far are these clipboards from the Dollar Tree (everything's one dollar in them):




I trimmed it to length to get rid of the clip whilst I was at the farm this last weekend and then scored the grooves to simulate pavement edges with my radial arm saw. Basecoated it medium grey (spray can) and then hit it with a lighter grey to simulate weathering and make it a little different grey from the pipes and tanks and things- the fiber was thirsty and sucked some othe light grey in and made for some neat weathering already- I'll hit it with washes and some 'chemical staining' later. I also cut a piece of pink insulating foam to size for a base for the promethium tanks with my hot foam cutter:



Next carved out the seats for the promethium tanks (combination of my micrometer accurate circle cutter and centimeters accurate hacking with a hobby knife), the 'tanks' are the top parts of two plastic drinks bottles:



Next, added a cross-connecting fitting from the local hardware store, from their 'spare parts' table:



And then started in on some greenstuff work both to anchor the cross-connect in place and to look like pipe weld bands or something (heavy emphasis on the 'or something'). I'll add some rivets to everything and some more effects- I have a couple of new tricks I want to try, and at least one old one:



So, with this first real session of getting some actual work done, I'm fairly pleased: I've worked with insulating foam and greenstuff, am trying a piece of terrain different to anything I've done before and trying to meet a deadline- all good goals. And if I like how it comes out,, an excuse to get some ganger figures to 'occupy' the station!

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/31 13:41:10


Post by: JohnnyHell


Oh clipboards are a great idea! I often find base material in the reduced showroom section at IKEA. 50p for enough hardboard to base a city is a steal, but they often have nothing. I’ll be raiding my local £1 shops now just in case!

Excellent bottle cap use. Love me a good bottle cap! Some detail sticking out of each surface will help with painting as it creates shadows and interest. Excited to see how this progresses!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/07/31 14:20:37


Post by: ChaoticMind


Yaaas, join the gang side, we have 20+ distinct forces and don’t need to delay working on ideas as long!

As for terrain; [sarcasm] looks terrible, you should send it off to me so I can properly “dispose” of it. [/sarcasm] Seriously though, shaping up nicely! Can’t wait to see it finished.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/01 00:25:31


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Johnny-H- I love me some bottle caps too. I saw where one of us here on DakkaDakka glued two of the same sort together to make space-age shipping containers, or drums; I reckon to try that to help make up the improvised barricades the gangers have thrown up around the tanks.

Thanks CM- it's fun to be past the initial 'writer's block' and actually have an idea in mind of what this mess will look like when it's (more or less) finished. I think now it was a mistake to haul everything out and brainstorm- too many options, too many possibilities. Better to have thought of something to go for first, then scavenged through all the bits to find the right combination! At least to date, I'm still sticking to my rule to work only one project at a time- too easy for me to start more than one and then lack the oomph to get back to work on any of them a lesson learned many years ago).

I've a couple of pictures now, and hope to have some real progress to show tomorrow (maybe later tonight, if the bug holds)- almost to the point now where I can start painting (other than priming/basecoating)!

So far tonight, here's the 'fighting platform' that forms the upper deck of the promethium tank farm (it's gluing up here):



This will also have smaller tanks (a great kit from Tehnolog/Robogear) mounted up here, and railing and improvised fighting positions upon other gangers from which to snope with (ha! I love me some bad grammar!). You can see the 'two bottle cap' glued up method for making barrels in the foreground.

Here's a couple more cross struts glued in (the tanks are inverted here to get the right spacing). After everything is painted properly, I'll use greenstuff or JB Weld t permanently fasten the tanks to the struts:



Finally, these widgets are part of a set I found at Goodwill for modeling atomic structures- the angles can all interlace and the different colored balls represent protons, nuetrons and electrons. I reckon to use the angle pieces to fashion more struts for supporting the upper deck. I have enough, I think I'll try using some others to make a different piece of terrain, like an elevated walkway (I have a metric crap-ton of these things):




Once the deck is dried and primered, I can start thinking about building the improvised barricades and hardened firing points- I was afraid at first I wouldn't have much call to put rivets in, but there's going to be lots of opportunity. More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/01 18:55:40


Post by: JoeRugby


Coming along Great Meer_Cat, looking forward to seeing the progress


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/01 22:07:58


Post by: Theophony


The platform idea is coming along nicely .

I’ll need to keep an eye out in stores for those atom parts, I see many possibilities with those.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/02 00:18:39


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Joe, Theo, for dropping by and for your encouragement! I really appreciate it. I mentioned earlier in this blog that the atmosphere I've found here on DakkaDakka reminds of the good ole days back in the late 80's when I first got started in Warhammer (everything Warhammer- 40k, fantasy battle, Epic, later Space Hulk and Space Crusade when they came out- a surfeit of riches, indeed!). We would hustle to get cleaned up and changed following afternoon PT so we could go drool over the racks of Citadel paints and Marauder figures at the Shop and then paint until lights out in the Day Room. Lots of 'what are you working on now?' and mutual encouragement- just like here.


For three days in a row now I've kept myself on task, so here's tonight's forward progress (with more a bit later, I needed time to get the superglue scale off my fingers and for some of the more delicate connections to set up, so am blogging for a few minutes).


I started out working on the 'cracking tower' that will sit on the upper deck. This is a Russian kit, and I found it on eBay from the same guys that carry Tehnolog and Robogear. If I remember right, it cost me US$6- if you can still find these, I highly recommend you grab 'em while you can- there is so much you can do with the pieces. Not just buildings- I see potential for vehicles too. Here's at the start:



And here's where we are at the moment:



That little platform at the top, where normally the waste gas flare off vent would be located, is where a sniper can perch- good sight lines and will have some armor sheeting welded on around the edges.

Also got the main structure base coated (love me some spray can paint- gotta get an airbrush one day, I reckon):



Once all this is in place, the really fun part starts when I get to use all my junk to fashion 'hasty barricades' around the whole perimeter: crates, barrels, traffic guides, jersey walls, etc. Think Mad Max and the original (real) Road Warrior movies. Too easy.


More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/03 00:20:34


Post by: Meer_Cat


Small increments forward tonight, not a lot of time to work:

Got the start of the base coat on the promethium tanks- these get another wash of lightened copper and then grunge applied on top, plus that greeny, grainy gunk that Cam's so good at doing to form a patina on the copper/bronze bits:



A little more work on the cracking tower:



And this is the company that makes the atomic modeling kit (I think it must be for bio-chemistry), someone had indicated an interest:





That's it for tonight, not a lot, but wanted to show I'm still in the fight. I won't get a chance to work on it again until Monday, unfortunately, but will get myself back on task then.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/03 03:33:43


Post by: Syro_


It's nice seeing your steady progress, and wow what a beautiful copper color you've gotten those tanks! It's almost a shame that make it appropriate for 40k you'll ahve to dirty them up and age them quite a bit.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/03 05:50:55


Post by: Sveamore


Hey Mate,
I'm afraid I don't really know anything about Imperial Guards etc but I have a mix of some light hearted & serious minefield warning signs I made that might look good in front of your dug in position. If you want I could upload the picture & you could download at your end if you wanted to use them? I like that position very much & the utterly brilliant idea with the photo frame too. Anyway, if you're interested let me know, if not, it's all good. Cheers.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/03 08:05:48


Post by: shasolenzabi


Very nice copper on the storage tanks!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/04 19:49:20


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Syro- I've finally got myself over the intial 'writer's block' stage and it's fun to work on. And yep- burying that decent copper color under a ton of grime and oxidation, kind of a shame. But, if I want clean copper, I should model a sailing ship, or something!

Hey shaz- thank you for dropping in! Can't make promethium, apparently, without good brewer's vats!

Hi Sveamore- thank you for the kind words! Yes, please upload your minefield signs, I look forward to seeing and using them. I'm trying to imagine what a 'humorous' minefield warning would look like and am coming up blank- so it'll be fun to see what you've come up with.

More follows soonest!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/04 22:48:27


Post by: Sveamore


Here you go, it's my humour, so maybe it's only humorous to me:-) Anyway I hope you can use some of them. Cheers



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/05 00:11:42


Post by: Meer_Cat


Oh I'm using these- these are terrific! Thanks for posting them. I may even be able to work one into my current project. Too funny!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/05 08:25:40


Post by: JoeRugby


Keep up the good work Meer_cat, love the bronze on your vats


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/05 20:13:28


Post by: insaniak


 Meer_Cat wrote:
Thanks Theo- there are a lot of other things to try with greenstuff; right now I'm at the 'Becky Home-ecky' with her rolling pin stage, kinda.

Here's a shot of how those little extra bits of greenstuff came out:


These look really good! Nice work.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/05 20:57:27


Post by: Wirecat


Depending on the actual scale that may make a good chemical addition to Mantic industrial terrain. Too practical for grimdark. And - yes, please throw as much warning labels and useless numbers like sectors and platforms on this stuff too!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/06 16:31:32


Post by: Theophony


Thanks for the pics of where the molecular kit came from. I’ll keep an eye on eBay for some used ones, or see if my wife can order them from her school.

Minefield signs are awesome . Makes me want to build minefields just to use them all.

The storage tanks look great.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/07 01:36:08


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hi Wirecat- I've included a scale shot below, so you can get an idea of size for this thing- those are Eisenkern Panzerjaegeren in the foreground from an earlier build.


Hi Theo- happy to help! Truth to tell, I got seriously distracted with these things just building atomic structures when I was sitting amongst my junk supposedly brainstorming the defensive position project- too much fun playing with them.


Sveamore's minefield signs are terrific- and same as you, now I want to build a vignette to use them- maybe something like the scene in the movie Kelly's Heroes where the Corporal and Private Grace are caught by the German patrol in a minefield and have to defend right where they are, whilst the rest of the platoon lays down covering fire. The possibilities are endless!


So here's what we've gotten done tonight- lots of little things that don't look like much, but I can feel the waterfall building and- if I stay on task- will burst in a flurry and before I know it, the project is done.

Here's the scale shot first. The tanks got another wash of copper- now it's time to start messing that nice finish up! I wish the base had a bit more room for figures, but the clipboard I used kind of dictated the footprint:



I figured a promethium processing plant (or any kind of chemical plant, for that matter) needed a computerized control station to run it from, and I didn't have one. But I had some bits:



And now I have one. The heavy stubber with anti-aircraft shoulder grips is actually a Tehnolog (love that company!) simple kit with some extra gubbins glued on:



I also wanted a gun tower- something that looked like it had been welded together by somebody who knew what they were doing, but using improvised parts. The bits I used included parts from a Robogear set, a toothpaste cap, a mineral supplement syringe we use for our Shetland ponies and the inevitable and ubiquitous greenstuff:



And now I have a gun tower:



Tomorrow I hope to get some paint on some of these, start laying down the improvised barricades at the ground level and maybe finish the cracking tower part (with its attached sniper's eyrie). We'll see what tomorrow brings!

Thanks for looking in, and all suggestions, constructive criticism and advice is welcome. More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/07 14:27:25


Post by: Dr H


Good work.
Nice gun tower.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 01:21:25


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Doc! I'm glad I've had a chance to use up some of the weird plastic bits I've been accumulating for so long- and more to come!

Here's what's gotten done tonight:

I was looking at the clipboard fiberboard base, and I really like how the grey shading (accidently) came out, but it was looking too clean cut, too fresh poured concrete to be a proper industrial site, so I went to work jacking it up. I drew some cracks with fine point Sharpie pen and started scraping them with a mold line remover I got from Micro Mark (as a scribing tool, it works very well):



Here's the finished shot of the whole platform. The big blank areas you see will actually be covered by other items, so no need to scribe them:



Next, I'm kind of anxious to get the tanks part of the chemical plant installed on the board- so many other things can't be measured out properly until that happens. So I drybrushed the concrete 'plinth' that the tanks are on to help distinguish them from the also grey platform, painted the tank tops pavement grey and dry brushed them gun metal grey, added some bronze to what will be a spigot on the front and then started dripping Puzzle Saver stuff (it's really just a type of PVC glue, thinned- I got this from the dollar store); this'll get painted and shaded suitably bilious shades of glowing green to represent nuclear waste leakage:



Also got the base painting done on the heavy stubbers and drybrushed some gun metal grey and added bronze bits (still need to add heat burn to the muzzle and drill them out, and have to whip up some drum magazines to add to the sides:



And built another gun tower. The first one was just slightly too small to fit a heavy weapons team on a 60mm base onto- so to game it, it will accommodate a special weapon. This one will hold a 60mm base. I'll probably wind up using both on this project:



And, mostly to be able to say I did, I officially glued the first bit down to the platform for the improvised barricades. This huge crate is actually one of the Star Wars toys games that unfold into a little playmat game thing; closed up it is this crate. I spray painted it grey, hit it with ersatz nuln oil, found it was 'way too close in color to every other grey thing around it, so added a lot of white dry brushing. I may have to hit it with some rust to make it even a bit more different yet:



I'm enjoying the momentum now on this project and am looking forward to what I can get done tomorrow (if all goes to plan). Your input always welcome.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 03:45:09


Post by: Yorkright


So many interesting projects going on Meer, looking great as usual.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 07:18:24


Post by: JohnnyHell


The shoulder harness you’ve added to that gun looks the business, Meer_Cat!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 18:45:30


Post by: Theophony


The clipboard base is looking excellent . Nice work on the cracking too. I might suggest that when the cracks get to the indents that they follow the indentions though as that is how it normally happens as that is where the concrete in sidewalks and streets is thinner and therefore weaker. They are man made fracture lines so that it’s easier to replace a section than a large area.

Love the gun tower and turret.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 22:10:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you Yorkright- I've not been in one of the LoER contests before, and working to a deadline (which implicitly means trying to stay somewhat in scope) is an interesting experience for me. Usually, as with the Athena, I get started and things suggest themselves as we go along! So far, this one is very fun.

And thank you, JohnnyHell! I was going for the look of the WWII anti-aircraft mounts, and some heavy weapons have shoulder grips like this too (I'm thinking of the 25mm Bushmaster adapted for a naval mount). This is the look I wanted for the tower gun that I built for the firebase, 'way back at the beginning of time ("As I does the tell, I'm looking behind us now...." - quick, name the movie!) of two years ago.


And thank you also, Theo! I take your point about how the cracks should follow the path of less/least resistance- I'll add some scraping tonight and see what I can do!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 22:50:06


Post by: ChaoticMind


I admire your dedication to awesome terrain. I wish I had the patience to do even half as good a job on mine.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/08 23:37:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey CM- thank you for the kind words. I wouldn't call it dedication so much as 'oooh- let's try this new thing!" Which makes it a good thing I'm here on DakkaDakka, with all you folks to show me new things to try!

This is the first 'industrial, reasonably intact' structure I've ever tried (except for model railroading buildings, which don't count). I'm hoping to try my hand at graffiti on this one, if time permits. I've been on the side of law and order all my life, so that's going to be a neat experience too- vandalizing my own work!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Aaaaand here's tonight's lot. A _lot_ of freehand painting that I was hoping to avoid, but the other method didn't work, so not a lot of other things to report. Repainted the muzzles on the heavy stubber silver- to better show the muzzle burn, rather than the bronze/brass that I used originally.

Found these stencils at Michael's hobby/art shop for US$3, they're one inch tall and I'll use them to add some industrial looking markings to the chem plant:



Added some more drips to the tanks and glued the whole assembly down onto the base (from here on, everything gets detailed on the base piece itself- or as much as I can manage; I'm hoping to get my desk top back):



I got these car barriers (what we call 'jersey walls' after the great state of New Jersey which seems to have them all over the place) off eBay some time ago and want to use them as part of the improvised barricades. As you can see, the molding is screaming to have hazard stripes added. I figured to use the art/trim masking tape as a quick easy way to do the black stripes in the lower relief stripes, and then I'd freehand the yellow. Unfortunately, I seem to have purchased trim tape that was surplus to a NASA space launch and is tougher than the hubs of Hades- I couldn't cut it neatly even with a brand new blade in my hobby knife:



So I freehanded both the black and the yellow stripes:



I'll add one more layer of yellow paint to smooth those stripes out and then grime 'em up with weathering powders. I hate working with yellow, because I have to lay a base coat of white, then thin the yellow and then do multiple layers to get an even coat (first world problems, I know- somebody call the waaaah-mbulance! ).

I hope to have some time tomorrow to work, and I'll start layering the chemical leak colors, finish the jersey walls and get them glued down, add stenciled numerals to the upper platform and maybe even get started on the control console.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/09 03:18:22


Post by: Sveamore


Pretty neat freehand there MC and is that Hydrostone/Cal etc for the run off from the tanks? It may be a little brittle if it is? Anyway it's all looking good at this stage.

Um.... can I quote you here "to add some industrial looking markings to the chem plant:" (unquote) I sorta, maybe, kinda did a chem plant years ago & sorta, maybe, kinda did up some markings for it. So if you're interested, um..... let me know. Cheers.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/09 10:10:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Sveamore! I could definitely use the help if you've got markings for a chem plant- and thank you!


The run off from the tanks is a product called 'Mod Podge'- I got it cheap from a dollar store here. It's for pouring onto a jigsaw puzzle once you have it together and you spread it out thin. It dries clear and keeps the puzzle together so you can display it as a picture. Really, it's a form of white glue with a thinner added to make it flow better. I've built up some layers here by adding drips over the past two days to give it some texture.




sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/09 11:20:02


Post by: Sveamore


Ah yes Modge Podge, we have it here in OZ, well in some stores anyway, (have seen it in Spotlight if any Aussies are reading this thinking pigs arse mate) because it's from the US it shoots up the price 25 times that which is why I probably haven't ever bought some:-) Anyway, here's the industrial sheet I did, it was for my chemical weapons facility, hope I get to see some on yours if you can use any. Cheers.

Found a second one, not sure how it's going to scale as I downloaded it from an old thread of mine, no idea where the original is any more.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/09 20:44:24


Post by: Meer_Cat


This are terrific- thank you for passing them along, Sveamore! You've got a real talent for designing signage.

I'll definitely be using some of these on the current project (and retro-fitting some of the minefield ones onto the arty position).

I tried the Modge-podge because I found it cheap at a dollar store (everything for a dollar). I think regular old white glue would have worked equally well for the drips. I hope to have some color added tonight!


Thanks again!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
And here's tonight's work done:

First up, the chemical leaks from the tanks- this is three layers of Modge-Podge white glue stuff and then three different shades of greens and red/oranges:



I also managed to get some other bits fastened down, like the big drain pipe in the center (with its greenstuff collar that needs rivets) and the tarp on the right with the gears leaning against it:



And now here's a shot with the jersey walls in place (they need weathering- I ran out of time to do that, and maybe some light ersatz-nuln wash, but otherwise good to go, I think):



I really think, with this lot done, that I can glue the upper deck in place and start really wroking on getting the cracking tower sorted out. There's still the rest of the barricades, but I've got a ton of junk lined up for that. And thanks to sveamore, I've got some terrific signage to put up- I scaled them out on photo paper and printed out two sheets worth- that's going to be fun! The problem will be getting enough flat surfaces to hang everything up!

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/11 11:44:06


Post by: Wirecat


These leaks are all nice and toxic... but after looking at the photos several times now these tanks look to me like a tops of bell-shaped nozzles. Especially with the upper deck - as lower tank bulkhead. Ideas, ideas...

Stay on target!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/16 00:40:54


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hello all- I'm back, after several busy days helping at my mother's house in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York. I'm still worn out, but got myself back on task tonight to get some more work done, and as ever, once I sat down and actually touched a paintbrush- the time just flew.

I started weathering the jersey walls- this is a thinned black wash on the back panels (I'm fixing to add some graffitti and maybe some poster on this side) and I'll use some weathering powders on the other, hazard stripe, side:



On the base itself (nearly ready to glue down the second deck platform) I dulled the toxic waste leaks with some washes of green and red- I think the resulting look is a little more like what I was going for. I also painted the greenstuff tarp on the right hand corner blue (a thin wash of acrylic hobby paint) and added another gear to the pile. You can also see the start of some 'oil' stains on the cracked pavement- I've a couple of more layers to add to finish those:



I also started weathering/rusting the control console, and thanks to sveamore I have a cool poster to mount in that big blank spot on the left. You can also see the start of the rubble filled astro-barrels that will form part of the barricades:



And lastly, I primed and started painting up this extra storage tank. It came as a Matchbox pack with an armored vehicle and scaled out perfectly; it will also (probably) wind up as part of the barricade- not sure if on the ground level or on the upper deck:



So, that's it for now. I enjoyed being home, but I'm glad to be back at this project, too. More follows soonest!




sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/16 03:15:02


Post by: Theophony


I have similar Astro barrels in my collection . Watching Star Trek the next generation again while painting and winding down for the night has given me some ideas after seeing a bunch of episodes in cargo bays. Their cargo bays are even more hazardous than Necromunda terrain. Barrels filled with highly explosive elements and stored in the upper decks without being strapped to the pallet . I guess OSHA didn’t make it to that time period.

Grimes jersey block wall looks great by the way.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/16 03:32:43


Post by: ChaoticMind


Grah! So many neat ideas and I don’t have the money to “borrow”.

Not sure about the lose gears but the slime is looking great!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/17 00:41:34


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Theo! I think I got the idea for the bottle cap astro barrels from your blog in the first place. And you're right- for an advanced starship, the Enterprise had a _lot_ of safety hazards!

Thankyou also, CM- and steal away. Most of what I know I saw somewhere here on DakkaDakka, so I'm happy to see them get used by somebody else in a unique and imaginative way! You're right about the gears, too- at the moment there is no good reason for them to be there. So I have to _build_ a good reason for them to be there- some machine that they fell off of, or are replacement parts for, something like that

Only a small update tonight- not a lot of time to work:

Hazard stripe side of the jersey walls- before and after dirt dusting:



Jersey walls glued down to the base (they'll get spritzed later with one more light coat of dollar store hairspray and about three drops of black ink):



That crate in the corner is going to get an armored surround, by the way.

And the big thing was gluing, priming and prepping to paint multiple barrels for the next stage of the lower barricade (plus the two gun tower support posts):



More follows soonest- and I'm glad briancj mentioned this contest- I'm having a blast and I ight even make the deadline!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/17 01:35:22


Post by: Theophony


Well I stole the idea from Grimdork, who has been absent too long . Always shared great ideas.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/17 03:57:16


Post by: Maddok_Death


Wood glue and food coloring make a transparent color that looks awesome. I have mixed paint in with mod podge before and it looks good too, but with the food coloring its slightly see through.

Love gun towers! Is it bad that your desk is probably 90% cleaner than mine lol


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/18 16:38:02


Post by: Dr H


Good progress, M'cat.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/18 19:00:07


Post by: Wirecat


Yep! Good progress and moderate weathering is the best.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/19 00:37:42


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Maddok_Death wrote:
Wood glue and food coloring make a transparent color that looks awesome. I have mixed paint in with mod podge before and it looks good too, but with the food coloring its slightly see through.

Love gun towers! Is it bad that your desk is probably 90% cleaner than mine lol


Thanks Maddok_Death- that's a good tip on the glue and food coloring- I'm wild to try it now (I'll have to think up another project that needs a leak of some kind). The piers for the gun platforms were fun- I love using up scraps and bits that I've saved from other things- these are a non-needle syringe, a toothpaste cap and some greenstuff to stick them together. And geez, if _my_ desk is cleaner- you must really be prolific!

 Dr H wrote:
Good progress, M'cat.


Thanks Doc- this is a very different sort of project for me, so lots of things to try out. And of course, the direction I was aimed at the beginning is not where this build is likely to end up; too many neat choices to make on the way.

Wirecat wrote:
Yep! Good progress and moderate weathering is the best.


Thank you, Wirecat. Originally I had in mind something _very_ Necromunda: all graffiti, and heavy rust and bent and broken metal bits. With enough time, I might could manage something like that. But I play Imperial Guard for a reason: I think in the old D&D chart I'm Lawful Good, and naturally tend towards order and cleanliness. The best I may be able to manage here is slight disreputability- but we'll give it a whirl!

Thanks again all- more follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/20 14:03:02


Post by: shasolenzabi


I missed that another contest was underway, but that is looking so nice Meercat, and I hope you get your banner. Add more rivets!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/21 00:50:36


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks shaz- and more rivets it will be! I didn't know about the contest either, until briancj threw a gauntlet at me and acquainted me with the details. The big 'goal' for me in this project is coming at a deadline; I can fritz around with a build for a lot longer than I intend sometimes, and sometimes I walk in- knowing that the moment my hand touches a brush or some pliers I'll be chained to the bench for hours- and can't make myself sit down and just _do_ it. This has been highly motivating, at a time when I needed it.


Tonight, more about barrels, and getting things jump-started towards getting finished and not buried in fun sidebars. Looking at the calendar, I have maybe seven working days, with at most an hour or so each to work, to get this wrapped up.


I think I've come up with a variation for the bottle cap astro-barrel, using these components:



Clip the ring off the milk carton pull, and start gluing pieces together (I'm using dollar store gel superglue- cyanacrolite- and it seems to be holding for now):



If you invert the bottom cap so that some are flat bottomed and some are hollow:



Then you have some barrels that can be laid over on their sides or- you can stack them:



I'll be stacking a row of various barrels as I want a parapet. Here's what they look like painted with a spray on base coat of tan or grey and then a top coat of cheap 'chalk' hobby paint. I love this stuff, it has a bit of a gritty texture and the colors are imo perfect for battered shipping barrels. In the foreground you see barrels that have been opened/sawn in half, to show that they all are filled with rubble for weight to repel boarders and to act as a bullet dump. These form 'space gabions' for defense and the cap is filled with sand, then has all the loose bits and bobs on my desk dropped on and is then flooded with dilute white glue to set up hard:



I'll appply some of what I learned during my 'Study in Rust' project to paint them up.

Fiinally, tonight I've applied some number decals to the upper deck- just couldn't get the stencil to work the way I wanted- maybe with a gentle airbrush instead of spray cans or brushes. And before I crash for the evening I'm going to hit it with rust and 'industrial weathering solution':




The smudges at the far end are from trying to use hobby pens to fill in the stencil, but should be all good once the other goop hits it.

And that's it for tonight- I'll be happy when the barrel phase is complete (hopefully tomorrow) and I can start the cracking tower getting in place and working on the gate and gun towers.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/21 03:40:27


Post by: ChaoticMind


I recognize that brand of paint! Glad I’m not the only one who uses the *really* cheap paint on terrain.

It’s all looking good just needs its grunge now. For the platform are you planning on hiding the problem area with grease/sludge or corrosion? Personally I think corrosion would look better.

I may have to start saving my Dew caps for some gabions of my own...


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/21 21:26:40


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey CM- that isn't just the paint that I use for terrain- that's mostly the paint I use for everything, with the odd Model Color, Vallejo and Citadel thrown in for particular colors!






Those _are_ GW washes you see buried at the back under the Tehnolog chemical factory sprues- I make Nuln Oil and Agrex Earthshade for myself now, but I like the others (for the convenience, if for no other reason).



More follows in a couple hours!



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/23 00:50:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


OK, this might be the last update I post until final pictures, or perhaps one more as I get the cracking tower done, so the pics are sort of all over the place. I'm really humping to make the deadline next week, and I believe I will make it (no extensions Cam- us procrastinators need some guidelines in the real world!).

Here's the upper deck with its first layer of grunge added:



Things in various stages of basecoating (yes, we have repurposed a pair of decommissioned spacecraft blast doors as part of the barricade):



These are castings from the Hirst Arts Trench and Sandbag set- I'll be using them as firing steps at certain spots along the barricades. Basecoat of spray Rustoleum grey, heavy top coat of brown, wash of ersatz Agrax Earthshade and still to come a light top drybrushing of peach:



Here's the control station I modified from a rhino or land raider bit (couldn't resist the whimsy):



This tank is from the Matchbox set, with a tank of some kind; settled on Pavement Black for the main color because I spilled some (on my blotter) earlier and hated to waste it, so used it. The hazard stripe came on the original toy and the combustible placard is from the set of signs Sveamore graciously provided. All signage everywhere will get weathered a bit- and this placard particularly- once the white glue has set- will get soaked in solvaset/decal fix and then the tips glued down flat:



These rusted bits of corrugated iron are made from the liner of a cookie box (cheap ones), base coated spray Rustoleum grey and then hit with a lavish coat of Micromark rust and black. They'll get hung on the railings of the heavy and special weapons platforms to act as additional armor:



These next shots are of the (almost) finished ground floor of the chem plant- everything needs dirtying up, of course:









So, what's left? Very thin wash of black ink/ersatz Nuln Oil over everything, more signage, the cracking tower, the upper deck armor, the sniper's roost, seal it all with matt varnish and then dust it with every color weathering powder I own (I have a set with something like 15 shades for doing model railroad cars, so lots) and a ladder for troops to get from ground to upper deck. If time permits, hazard striping in the usual places and some sort of mechanical apparatus in the corner where the gears are laying, to give them a reason for being there.

Thank you for looking in, I welcome your suggestions and critiques. Almost there! More follows soonest.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/23 01:20:56


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking good there MC


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/23 21:46:45


Post by: Meer_Cat


MC to MT: Thanks, Over!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/24 03:03:44


Post by: Syro_


Looking really nice Meer_Cat. I was painting rusty corrugated iron today, I wish I could have borrowed you to do it.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/24 08:36:43


Post by: Sveamore


Work for me has been nuts so haven't caught up with a lot of threads, nice to see the updates. Great stuff:-)


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/24 08:46:20


Post by: Camkierhi


Not really allowed to say too much, but I will say you have really pushed your envelope this time, so much excellent work, so much inspiration for others, fantastic bud.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/25 13:12:56


Post by: Wirecat


I am really liking this stuff. Overdone, but still cool! Maybe too clean and bright in some places, but is the end of civilization enough reason to be all dull and dusty? Cheers!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/25 13:26:34


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks to all for the very kind comments!

Syro: I don't have a particularly good trick for dong rusty corrugated iron- I fin my Vallejo Rust Wash is a bit too heavy for most things- it makes a very good rust base on something like a tank muffler, but it is _very_ rusty. I use MicroMark's 'Rust n Dust' set- usually just steps 1 and 2 for rust; Step 1 is a rusty wash that is particles in suspension- I can get different degrees of rustiness by how much I stir up the pot. Then, when Step 1 dries, you go over it with a particulate black wash, and presto! easy, fairly good looking rust. For this ex-cookie box sheets of iron, I just slathered the rust on and let it pool where it wanted.

Thanks Sveamore- you can see I've already worked some of the signage you gave me in, and a lot more to come! It adds another dimension to terrain pieces that I haven't messed with too much before; the firebase has some signs, but I have a whole 'nother level of placarding in mind for this project.

Hi Cam! And thank you for dropping in- I know you've got to remain impartial but I appreciate the thought and thank you for the encouragement. I remember (not so long ago) putting up my first post on DakkaDakka and chewing fingernails until someone made a comment: would my work be of interest to anyone? Will they have constructive comments to make? Will the Mets make the playoffs this year? You were the first person to comment, and I've appreciated your suggestions, advice and encouragement ever since.

Howdy Wirecat! Agreed- the far future is _not_ this clean. I've a few more doo-dads to install, notably the fracking cracking tower (or is that the fething cracking tower?) and then I figure to just dump a gallon or so of ersatz Nuln Oil on everything to get that gritty, grimy look. I've got a bunch of railroad weathering powders too, in interesting colors to smear here and there for those odds blotches of color you almost always see at industrial sites- no one knows where they come from. I also want- time permitting- to add some graffiti, but as one former colleague in the Army put it "I'm too much of a tool of the establishment to be able to put my heart into good graffiti"; fortunetaly, I have all that signage from Sveamore- it being well known that signage is the Establishment's version of graffiti.

I'm at the Farm for the weekend, but will get back to work on Monday and will hopefully have one more set of pics to show off before the final for the deadline.

Thanks again, everyone- more follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/25 14:47:11


Post by: Theophony


Everything is turning out great. Love the bottle cap barrel mods you did, great little touch. I’ve been adding some of the cheap paints to my range too as it just seams like the smart way to go. I need to make my own washes, especially the Riekland flesh wash as I’m going through tons of it.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/25 16:45:24


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Theo! Cam is the one who put me onto making my own washes- he gave a couple formulae on his blog on how he does- looking at a lot of his ork stuff, I can believe he goes through ersatz Nuln Oil by the barrel!

From there I looked online, especially YouTube, and there are a ton of recipes and formulae, and from the pictures and videos, they do pretty well. For me, I use a lot of Agrax Earthshade and Nuln Oil (I do mostly infantry and vehicles) so I make those by the gallon. I bought the 'sampler' pack from my FLGS jus tto save having to experiment around for wash colors I rarely use (like the Sepia, Druchii Puple and ? Blue to do muzzle burn).

All good stuff, man, keep on truckin' !


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/28 01:51:30


Post by: Meer_Cat


Lots done tonight, but no pics- I'm nearly done. I'll use all the time left to the deadline to embellish, but the basic project is nearly complete, with weathering applied, 'gunkification', the cracking tower nearly complete, lots of signage added and the movable barrier that acts as a gate done. Had to build another ladder for the lookout/sniper's roost as well.

This has been a lot of fun, and I look forward to receiving your constructive criticism when I'm able to post final pics probably Wednesday.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/29 23:48:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


Welp, I've posted my sobbing fare-thee-well on the LOER Terrain Contest Painting blog, sent my final pics off to Cam and there is only to put _all_ the rest of the photos up here. Thank you all for the wonderful encouragement, guidance, tips and fun for the past month. My personal goal was to bring a project in on time- work to a deadline, and I've accomplished that. Along the way, I used more signage than ever before, scratchbuilt a number of items and learned that there is an understated way to apply rust, rather than the firehose that I usually use. I'd never tried to do a piece of industrial/Necromunda terrain before, either, so that was new.

Here's the pics:

Shot of the front courtyard of the chem plant:


The whole front face:


Right side (sorry about the rotation):


Back:


Left side:


Battle Standard (Yep: Eat My Shorts):


Decontamination Station (Just like the Empire- your lasgun works and not much else):


Movable gate:



Upper Deck:


Badly welded cracking tank:


Junk pile (sponsored by Rodentine!):


Inspiring poster:


Special Weapon Firing Platform:


Elevated strongpoint:


Heavy Weapon Firing Platform:


Rodentine- proud sponsors of 'Last Stand Tonight!':


Storage Tank:


Mantlets:




Fighting Platform:


Inspiring poster:


Top view:


More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 00:05:38


Post by: Theophony


Great work Meer_Cat, I can just hear them all grumbling “We have to defend This?....THIS?” I like all the little touches, the rust, the worn weld on the tank, and you put those signs to great use .

Good luck with the competition.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 00:27:59


Post by: Syro_


Wow, looks great, and so much detail! I'm glad I get to see it here rather than having to wait for the contest overview pics later. I'm glad Brian threw down the gauntlet and got you to join. It's good to hear that you accomplished so many firsts with this project.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 01:33:20


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks, Syro, Theo. It was nice to have the motivation to try something different and stretch a little. And now I have the perfect excuse to pick up a set of Eschers!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 22:41:22


Post by: Meer_Cat


So, with the LOER Terrain Competition now out of my hands, and not being able to stand a clean(ish) work table, it's time for another project.

-I have a 1/48 scale BA-64 armored car and some grots that need doing

-I have an M40 self-propelled gun to go with the Phaethon ammo hauler I did awhile go

-I have an idea to use the gun barrel from the Soviet B-4 Heavy Artillery piece in a 'orbital defense disappearing carriage' piece

-I've got my Heresy Girls Kickstarter figures to paint

-I've got a squad of 'Emperor's Sisters' (Sisters of Battle ersatz) from Grimskull to paint....

So this is what's next:





We rescue Shetland ponies and have four that are our 'permanent herd', having each of them special factors that make them endearing and hard to place with fosters at the same time. So they are our 'kids'. The wife has been teasing me about 'stop wasting time on all the sci-fi stuff and paint something serious- like ponies!'. I got these with an order from the same Russian company I get most of my Tehnolog/Robogear stuff from; they came as a set of 12, six different poses, for about $4.

I'll do these first four up pretty much as straight pony colors, with the markings that each of ours has to make them unique. The _next_ four I want to do up as Superheroes (Superman, Spiderman, Batgirl and maybe Wonder Woman) as a surprise and use greenstuff to help make the costumes.

Hey, my hobby keeps me off the streets at night!

As always, your suggestions, observations and constructive criticism are always welcome. More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 22:46:42


Post by: Theophony


I am not a my little pony person, but since it crosses over to your other hobby I think this is an awesome project. Since Superman had a kryptonian pet horse I think it’s only fair that whichever one you make into superhorse should have a pet human.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/30 23:32:16


Post by: Camkierhi


Hey models are models, gives you a good chance to experiment with shading and blending across those large areas of flank.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/31 01:25:15


Post by: kestral


That chem factory is awesome - so much going on there! Painting ponies is as good a challenge as any, really....


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/31 10:47:16


Post by: Syro_


I think it's really funny how you found these ponies, and why. It reminds me of how my girlfriend asked me why I'm always sculpting monsters, when I could make some nice birds or flowers
In that last pic, the pony on the left looks seriously pissed off, is that just the angle or the sculpt? Maybe add batman to the super hero sculpts for that one. I think it's really great that you foster those real life ponies, that must take a lot.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/31 20:38:56


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Theophony wrote:
I am not a my little pony person, but since it crosses over to your other hobby I think this is an awesome project. Since Superman had a kryptonian pet horse I think it’s only fair that whichever one you make into superhorse should have a pet human.


Hey Theo! I'm not a My Little Pony person either, really, but She Who Must Be Obeyed is really a good sport about my obsession and I like to do things that tie her in when I can. She's even at the point of noticing bits of broken junk in parking lots and saying "Hey! is that good for anything?"

 Camkierhi wrote:
Hey models are models, gives you a good chance to experiment with shading and blending across those large areas of flank.



Thanks Cam! I'll try for a bir of blending, but really I want to try to capture that chibi style of manga that Odin's Grandson used to do. We'll see though- they come out how they come out.

 kestral wrote:
That chem factory is awesome - so much going on there! Painting ponies is as good a challenge as any, really....

Thanks kestrel! I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!

 Syro_ wrote:
I think it's really funny how you found these ponies, and why. It reminds me of how my girlfriend asked me why I'm always sculpting monsters, when I could make some nice birds or flowers
In that last pic, the pony on the left looks seriously pissed off, is that just the angle or the sculpt? Maybe add batman to the super hero sculpts for that one. I think it's really great that you foster those real life ponies, that must take a lot.


Hey Syro! Yes, pretty much the same thing. "You're so good at building the models, why do you care if it's some old monster or a cute pony?" Equivalency- it's a dangerous thing. The real ponies are a handful, no doubt. They say if you want to make a small fortune in horses, start with a large fortune- and we didn't start with _any_ fortune! But it's very satisfying working with them, and it keeps me in shape. And if we had some more disposable income instead of ponies, I'd just be tempted to buy more stuff I may not live long enough to paint up!

Thanks all for looking in- more follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/31 21:27:57


Post by: Syro_


I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


That's one of the best things I've read in a long time


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/08/31 22:39:23


Post by: Theophony


 Syro_ wrote:
I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


That's one of the best things I've read in a long time


Need power hooves too


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/01 21:04:57


Post by: Dr H


Interested to see where the ponies go... I'll rephrase that...

Interested to see what you do with the ponies.

I went pony-trecking once. Only time I've ever sat on a horse-like entity.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/02 22:34:58


Post by: monkeytroll


And interested in how you approach the super-ponies..... It's all part of the hobby, and new stuff is new stuff


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/03 21:37:01


Post by: Wirecat


 Meer_Cat wrote:

Thanks kestrel! I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


*Spills some late-night tea over the table*

Hey, stop giving me weird ideas! Now... look what mess You have awakened!



I will have to decide between Bravestar and Saber Rider, but jokes aside - when my wolfen are finally off the table I can think about these ponies too.

Terrain is shaping up impressively. Personally I envy everybody who undertakes terrain-building projects of this scale.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/04 22:45:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Syro_ wrote:
I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


That's one of the best things I've read in a long time


Thanks Syro- that was my best Dr Evil voice going there!

 Theophony wrote:
 Syro_ wrote:
I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


That's one of the best things I've read in a long time


Need power hooves too


The power hoof will be their primary weapon! Well, the power hoof and fear, their two primary weapons! And surprise! Yes, power hooves, fear and surprise, their _three_ primary weapons! And...

 Dr H wrote:
Interested to see where the ponies go... I'll rephrase that...

Interested to see what you do with the ponies.

I went pony-trecking once. Only time I've ever sat on a horse-like entity.


Ponies go pretty much wherever they like, Doc I think I know what you meant though, this will be fun new change because I've never tried 'toy' finishes before or anything even remotely like the chibi style of manga. And I'm already booked for two follow on projects!

 monkeytroll wrote:
And interested in how you approach the super-ponies..... It's all part of the hobby, and new stuff is new stuff


Thanks Monkeytroll! A lot of it will develop as brushes touch pieces. The attitude that I see in the figures' faces is really reflective of the real ones. A lot of people don't have the patience for ponies because they are smart and they can be willful- you've got to know what you're working with and remind yourself that you're the one with the opposable thumbs every now and again!

Wirecat wrote:
 Meer_Cat wrote:

Thanks kestrel! I suppose with the last set of four I could get Wirecat to sculpt me a team leader, fasten firkkin' laserbeams to their heads and use them for a kill team!


*Spills some late-night tea over the table*

Hey, stop giving me weird ideas! Now... look what mess You have awakened!



I will have to decide between Bravestar and Saber Rider, but jokes aside - when my wolfen are finally off the table I can think about these ponies too.

Terrain is shaping up impressively. Personally I envy everybody who undertakes terrain-building projects of this scale.


Thanks Wirecat- and the picture is hilarious! I showed it to my wife and she thinks it captures the essence of the critters perfectly. And the firebase I built from the picture frame was bigger, but this industrial 'cobbled together' chem plant piece is much more involved, more complicated. I'd have never tried without the LOER contest to give me a push!

Thanks all for looking in- more follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/05 18:44:00


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Rainbow Dash with an attitude... Gotta love it


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/08 01:53:15


Post by: Private Benjamin


" Safety is our # 2 goal ... PROFIT BEFORE SAFETY "


I love it !!!!!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/19 23:46:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated- it only seems like I fell off the face of the earth for the last little bit. As Miracle Max tells us "When someone is _all_ dead, there's only one thing to do- go through his pockets and look for change."

After the push to complete the LOER project, I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to be 'between' projects to get some niggling things caught up.

The project of the moment of course, are the Chibi Shetland Ponies (Phase I: Normal Alter Egos). [Phase II will be Super Pony Attack Team and Phase III will be Chibi Pony Kill Team). These need only the grass and some bits added to their bases and they are pretty much done:



Next up was a tiny little detail for the anti-aircraft gun mount (the 20 mike mike quad) from one of my earliest posted projects- the ack ack tower from the Imperial Fire Base. The guns needed their magazines to be really complete, so- now those are done:



Next, and this does not count as a project (my rule that I've been pretty good about following is only one project at a time, lest I get overwhelmed by the fact that I now have - I think- more stuff than I can paint in my lifetime) is the prep, assembly and priming of these Grimskull 'Emperor's Sisters' (really, Sisters of Battle). This is my second time working with resin, and as opposed to my experience with the Raging Heroes, this went very smoothly. The figures are fantastic in their crisp detail and lack of mold lines. There was literally no flash anywhere on these pieces and I highly recommend them. I was preparedfor the worse, so dutifully scrubbed them in a dilute liquid dish detergent solution, thoroughly dried them and then glued them up- with absolutely no trouble at all. I used Gorilla Glue Super Glue Gel, and they all stuck together the first time around with no fuss. Freakin' unbelievable, after what I went through last time. The only place where I used a tiny piece of greenstuff was the join between the shaft and the shrine of the standard- it's a small join with a lot of top heavy weight, so I wanted it strong. The pics are the command group, the squaddies and a singleton of the grenade thrower- beautiful piece:







The squad leader (probably soon to be a platoon leader, as I'm ordering in enough of these- they're from Poland, I think- to make two full squads) and the heavy dual-melta gun are on temporary bases- those are their bases out in front, to be painted separately.

Lastly, Insaniak gave the link for these laser-cut shipping containers and mine came in a couple days ago. These are a very thin MDF and very precisely cut. At US$5.50 (that includes shipping) each, I'll be ordering more. These first two I built just to see how they go together- the next pair will be shipping configuration with a lot of customizing and the last pair (they come three each to their set, I got the 'space' ones and the 'standard' square ones) I have something in mind for. I'm brush painting these, as I want some good depth of weathering and fading, but I do recommend using spray cans or n airbrush to do these to get a smoother coat. Part of my problem here is I'm painting cheap craft acrylic paint over top of Rustoleum spray primer, so there may be compatibility issues there:



That's an Eisenkern stormtrooper in the foreground and an old Rogue Trader adventurer on top, for scale. They both need base coats finished and then weathered, but I wanted to show what all I've been up to.

Next is to finish off the containers, the bases for the ponies and prep the next set of four ponies (the superheroes). I also got my Occulte Predators Blood Bowl Kickstarter figures in (I don't even play Blood Bowl, but daaaaang! these are some sexy players!) so those need to be prepped. I'm trying to get a lot of my resin cleaned up and together now, as I have _a lot_ more stuff coming in (Empire of Men- you guys need to get your stuff in one sock and get me my figures! )

Oh yeah, and (looking at the pics of the Emperor's Sisters) I need to build a display board to take better pictures on.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/20 05:24:19


Post by: Theophony


I like the approach your taking on the horses, should be very interesting.

Never been a huge fan of the whole Sisters of Battle, but those models are lovely. Looking forward to the board you’ll be making.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/20 20:30:17


Post by: Meer_Cat


I've never done SOB before either- but the detail on these was so exquisite really wanted to have a go. I mean, really, who doesn't like an Order that considers a flamethrower a close combat weapon? (I had a buddy years ago who referred to Sisters of Battle as '*itches in heat' and then wondered why no female personnel wanted to game with us. Great infantryman, not so good with the diplomatic skills.)



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/22 13:24:50


Post by: CommissarKhaine


For pony! (LFG webcomic reference for those who don't read it)

Those conainers look real interesting, the 'space' one would look great as a pillar as well, by the looks of it.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/22 18:10:13


Post by: Meer_Cat


True- I hadn't thought of that, but looking at the space type container it would make an excellent pillar. The base foot print is about 3 inches square and I think the more mundane raised ridges pieces could be replace with more elaborate scroll work, if one wanted. You could use them to line the sides of a large floor leading to a throne or something- would make for a great gaming area- dodging around pillars and getting snap shots off!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/22 20:57:18


Post by: Dr H


Good job on the ponies and good start to all the other things.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/24 01:42:56


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks, Doc.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/24 06:14:45


Post by: Camkierhi


Ponies are great, nice work all round on them.
The Sisters are cool, was always disappointed at the limited supply of them. Nothing for or against myself, just thought it odd at the limited options.
Love the containers. Messed about making some but can't compete with the laser cut stuff. Good start on them. And like the pillar idea.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/24 19:56:18


Post by: Wirecat




Just crazed enough. Perfect! Staying for more!!!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/24 21:50:30


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Camkierhi wrote:
Ponies are great, nice work all round on them.
The Sisters are cool, was always disappointed at the limited supply of them. Nothing for or against myself, just thought it odd at the limited options.
Love the containers. Messed about making some but can't compete with the laser cut stuff. Good start on them. And like the pillar idea.


Thanks Cam. Same here- I liked the Immolater tank that the original SOB had, but once you're past the flamethrowers, not a lot of variety. I plan on blending these 'Emperor's Sisters' in with a bunch of VASA Archangels (from Urban Mammoth) that I've been collecting for years- time to do something with them.

Wirecat wrote:


Just crazed enough. Perfect! Staying for more!!!


Thanks Wirecat- the wife has already actually lined up orders from other of her horse/pony owning/riding/driving friends! You can't really see in this pic, but the figures do have accurate markings (socks, blazes, stars and snowballs) to match the real Shetlands. Now her pals want ones for their critters too. These are nice problems to have: a wife that supports the hobby and an appreciative audience. I have to check eBay and see if the Russian outlet that I got the last lot from still sells them!

And instead of any of the other projects that got temporarily put on hold during the last build for the LOER, I think I'm going to go forward with the 'disappearing carriage' planet-based, orbital defense gun. Yep, a heavy artillery piece, manned by on-board crew, intended to take on warships in orbit. Or, conversely, provide direct, irresistible fire support against ground targets. I read somebody's sig file that says "If your irresistible force isn't working, you're not using enough!'. It'll let me use up the B4 Howitzer barrel that has been kicking around on my desk since the Phaethon went from being the gun to being the ammo hauler. (I already have a different plan for the gun to go with the Phaethon.)


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/26 23:37:32


Post by: Meer_Cat


Another change in projects- but I think this one is going to stick, it really appeals to my mood of the moment. I'm dealing with a real-life, nasty situation at work and it has, naturally, affected my tone with my motivation to paint or model.

Some time ago, I used my Hirst Arts molds to build a gatehouse for a castle. Altogether, I'm fairly pleased with the end result, although- as you'll see- I need to pay more attention to my right angles and use a ruler to keep my walls straight a bit better. Before it was properly finished, I got interested in the possibilities of using the multi-picture frame from the Goodwill store, which resulted in the Imperial Firebase project.

So now it's time to finish the castle gatehouse. Here's a shot of the overall project:



The gatehouse stands more than 16 inches tall from moat to turret top and weighs more than 12 pounds. I should have based it on a piece of plywood, but didn't have any at the time, so to move it, I have to take it completely apart so as not to damage the foam board and pink insulation board base. Every level comes apart for total gaming. I used Hirst Arts molds 40, 52, 61, 87, 200 and 222 with multiple castings from each to get to this stage.



I need to finish sculpting the bank of the moat with my hot wire foam cutter, paint and apply ground cover:



This brooch is from the Goodwill- I think I gave 50 cents for it and will be painted up as the coat of arms for the noble family that resides in the castle and- more practically- will help hide some of the seam you see between the left and right sections of the 1st story (for us on the west side of the pond, the 2nd floor):



The moat itself needs coloring- I've some ideas from when I was engaged in model railroading to try here, and also the drawbridge pilings need to be painted and weathered:



I painted the three high elf noble and guards in the 80's, the elf mage in the 90's; I think I showed some slight improvement, but still couldn't do faces worth a hang:



These archers are probably from the mid-90's; some ink washes and I reckon they'll do:



I found this stuff by Testor's at Michael's Craft store, but I don't think it's really all that different from Artist's Medium, and roughly the same price. I figure to use it to make strings of 'vines' or ivy growing up the sides of the walls to help hide the more egregious gaps:



This is a shot of the back side of the gatehouse- I really like how the small fighting overlooks came out:



These next shots show how the whole thing comes apart. Roofs come off the turrets, so you can fight from them:



Here are archers inside the topmost room of the tallest tower (points to anyone who gets the movie reference), the spiral staircase runs the whole way from top to bottom:



The towers open up onto a fighting platform (3rd story); you could probably mount a heavy weapon here- catapult or ballista:





There are archery embrasures on both the 2nd (shown here) and 1st stories:



And the 1st story lifts off to reveal the ground floor. I may cut murder holes into the floor of the 1st story, overlooking the main passage coming from the drawbridge:



And here's the noble party on the drawbridge, showing the ground floor. It doesn't show well in the picture, but those archer embrasures are actually canted towards the centerline of the drawbridge and set to converge at the far end of the bridge- allowing for direct fire against the far bank and all the way across the drawbridge space:



So, there are several things to do here:

* Finish the base coat on all the stonework (after dusting the blooming thing!)
* Apply 2nd and 3rd weathering coats (light grey and then white)
* Paint the coat of arms
* Apply the ivy vines
* Finish the far bank of the moat
* Paint and texture the water in the moat
* Do a little sanding where I can to make the joins a little tighter here and there

Like I said, overall I'm quite pleased with the result of my first major project using Hirst Arts molds. Now it's time to finish this project off!

More follows soonest.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/27 19:06:24


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Quite the change in direction, but a lovely model! What's holding you back from adding the plywood base at this point? Sorry to hear about the work situation, I hope things turn out for the best!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/27 21:25:47


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks, CK! As for that, I guess there really is no reason not to add something to strengthen the base, it's not like it's finished, after all. I was a bit concern at one point that it would raise it up too high, though. The original concept was to make multiple wall, tower and keep sections that could fit together to make a battle board, with surrounding pink foam board terrain sections that would allow for terrain relief to be built in- especially for the moat. It's heavy enough that 1/4 inch ply might not be strong enough anyway, and I'd really hate to 1/2 inch (or thicker!)- it just really gets clunky then.

I could also always leave it as is and add a warning note to be careful lifting it out of the box....

The work thing is one of those "you're hired to do a highly specialized job because you're an expert, the customer doesn't listen to your advice (as is their prerogative) but then blames you for not doing your job when things go smash" type deals.

I swear, it's like working for orks!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/27 22:42:05


Post by: JoshInJapan


Wow, that's a magnificent piece of terrain. I can't wait to see where you go with it from here.

Also, I admire your willingness to post photos of models that old. I can barely bring myself to look at models I painted that long ago, much less share them with the world. You've really come a long way in your painting.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/28 01:37:32


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Josh! I might start building a wall section, while I'm applying finishing touches to the gatehouse. The goal of course, would be to complete an entire castle system- but I might not live long enough!

I get what you mean about older figures, too. I hate to change them in any way, because I'm not the person anymore that painted them, and for better or worse they are a part of my 'growing up' in the hobby. On the other hand, I do have different skills now, and maybe applying some touch ups that improve the skill level but leave the basic look intact would satisfy both ends of the equation.

In ay event, more than 40 years later, still having fun!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/29 16:59:19


Post by: Theophony


Topmost room of the tallest tower....isn’t that where the dragon keeps princess fiona?

Wonderful project. I’ve thought about doing hurst molds before, but they are more expensive on this side of the pond, and so many other options on scratch building. Luckily my eyes have been on Sci-fi stuff for so long that a castle is not in my work list. I will have to live vicariously through your blog on this one .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/09/29 20:47:46


Post by: Dr H


Good castle-i-ness you have going on.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/01 22:41:53


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Theophony wrote:
Topmost room of the tallest tower....isn’t that where the dragon keeps princess fiona?

Wonderful project. I’ve thought about doing hurst molds before, but they are more expensive on this side of the pond, and so many other options on scratch building. Luckily my eyes have been on Sci-fi stuff for so long that a castle is not in my work list. I will have to live vicariously through your blog on this one .


Exactly the source of the quote- I shall have to mail you a cigar! I originally bought only two molds to use, they are a bit pricey, but word got around my family and everyone managed to find one that no one else had gotten, so I've a fairly complete set for castle making. I mostly do WH40K, but every now and then one just has to scratch that Lego itch...

 Dr H wrote:
Good castle-i-ness you have going on.


Thanks Doc. Getting back in to finish this one a little more completely has me stirred up to build another piece to go with it- probably a wall section to place on one side or the other. That was the original concept: everything modular and everything game-able. With all the sci-fi stuff I have lying about, it is a major exercise of restraint to _not_ buy up bunch of fantasy pieces- there are so many interesting things coming out.


And then there's Bushido, and the Aliens series, and …..




sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/08 21:36:40


Post by: Wirecat


Impressive. Most impressive. (c) one dark lord

Stone texture looks quite believable too, great!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/08 22:47:16


Post by: Private Benjamin


Love the castle, makes me think of the movie " Willow "


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/09 19:55:19


Post by: Camkierhi


Impressive castle bud, always tempting, I think everyone wants to build a castle. Doing a great job so far.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/18 01:37:29


Post by: Meer_Cat


I haven't actually dropped off the face f the Earth, things are still a bit chaotic at the moment and finding time to get to the _really_ important things lie modeling can be hard.

The gatehouse had sat for quite awhile waiting its turn, and I left a couple of things unfinished that are taking some time to rectify. First off, the question about "whether" to add some plywood to the bottom has been answered. When I went to add some matt polyurethane to the bits where the moat is going to be (I want to try my hand at water effects), this happened:



So I hied me hence to the local DIY shop and grabbed a piece of 5 mil underlayment, trimmed it to shape and started over positioning things on it. However, this artillery emplacement is one of the first things I made using foam board base and pink insulation foam board, and it worked fine- this is why I keep thinking I can use foam board; but no longer, now it's plywood or mdf all the way:



Next, the 'farside' embankment was a piece of pink insulation foam that I had started to carve with an actual electric knife (I didn't have my hot wire foam cuter yet). I didn't finish it, and when I went back to complete it, the fused parts were so dense that the wire cutter couldn't get through them. So I remade the whole thing:



So now I'm ready to actually, you know- make some progress on this biotch! I went over all the pieces and touched up where the spray can grey hadn't covered completely with a brush (Bruce Hirst, on his website, recommends using a 2 inch trim brush for the basecoat). I then tried to drybrush the light grey layer, which is to be followed by an even lighter white drybrush. I learned two things:

1) I found that the most effective way to apply a light drybrush was to hold the brush at a small angle to the surface- almost parallel. This way I'm getting the tiny amount of paint along the length of the bristles, rather than working from the impractically small amount at the tip of the brush. When I tried to use the tip of th brush- like I would on much smaller items- it sploged for the first half and then ran out of paint for the second. I got to where I could really control how much paint was delivered by laying the brush ferrule almost parallel to the wall surface being painted and using a REALLY light hand.

2) After viewing the picture below, I have learned that if you are doing large, homogenous surfaces, like a castle gatehouse wall, even though it breaks apart into eight separate pieces, I need to drybrush the exterior all as one unit. I can (must) do the interiors separately, but the exterior has to be assembled so that the drybrushing is more uniform. I think what is happening is that even though I'm trying to be uniform across the piece, I am unconsciously 'lighter handed' at the edges and 'heavier handed' as I work in. Doing the whole exterior as one piece will help me blend from section to section:





I can see that this drybrush coat is too heavy, still. I put the basecoated pieces to show the contrast and it's telling me that the light grey is 'way too much. The good news is that all I have to do is basecoat it again and start over. The relief on the castings from the Hirst molds is so good that I can get away with this at least once. More than that, and I will have smooth concrete walls and no need to drybrush any more....

I'm not really discouraged; I've never tried to paint a stone building like this before, or drybrush anything this large (I used really different methods on the fire base), so this is all good. Ad my 'water making' supplies (pun intended) have arrived and I'm wild to get to try that, so all good. And I've got the idea for a climbing vine effect that I still want to try.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/22 14:38:52


Post by: Dr H


Good show.

Coating the other side of warped pieces with the same mixture as that that caused the warp can help fix the warp.
This is why, when I do my CD coated in tissue/PVA bases, I wrap the tissue all round the base from the start. = no warping.

Dry-brushing. Always good to go light/gentle at first and take a step back to see how it looks before adding more.
For your case, I'd have given the light DB on the joined pieces and then further work on the individual pieces.

Still, it's easily fixed. Sometimes only a dark (or base colour) wash is enough.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/22 20:40:08


Post by: Wirecat


Yep. Wash is Your friend in fixing these things. You can even try one of the Angel Giraldez recipies for dummies - add spots of very contrasting color like green-grey and pale yellow-sandy to some of the stones before "unifying everything with a common wash. So before reverting to basecoating again You can try something new and look whether it works for You.

On the other hand, the embankment looks very believable for a clay-and-sand eroded by moat waters.

One more thing - get some fake moss in between these large stone blocks, that should draw attention from any less than perfect paint.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/23 00:51:15


Post by: Meer_Cat


 Dr H wrote:
Good show.

Coating the other side of warped pieces with the same mixture as that that caused the warp can help fix the warp.
This is why, when I do my CD coated in tissue/PVA bases, I wrap the tissue all round the base from the start. = no warping.

Dry-brushing. Always good to go light/gentle at first and take a step back to see how it looks before adding more.
For your case, I'd have given the light DB on the joined pieces and then further work on the individual pieces.

Still, it's easily fixed. Sometimes only a dark (or base colour) wash is enough.


Those are good tips Doc- I'll give them a try at earliest opportunity (I've already transferred the plaster pieces to the plywood, moving ahead with that approach for this piece). I've got a lot of foam board though, and it's cheap, so I know I'll be giving this a try soon.


Wirecat wrote:
Yep. Wash is Your friend in fixing these things. You can even try one of the Angel Giraldez recipies for dummies - add spots of very contrasting color like green-grey and pale yellow-sandy to some of the stones before "unifying everything with a common wash. So before reverting to basecoating again You can try something new and look whether it works for You.

On the other hand, the embankment looks very believable for a clay-and-sand eroded by moat waters.

One more thing - get some fake moss in between these large stone blocks, that should draw attention from any less than perfect paint.


Thanks for the advice, Wirecat- I'll definitely be adding the moss as you suggest, and will try a final wash of some kind after the basecoat is redone and the drybrushing layers are added. I'm thinking that the stonework near or on the waterline can benefit from a very limited and light _greenish_ hue, for starters. I did some searching earlier for Angel Giraldez videos dealing with washes and found a lot fo stuff, but no wash tutes yet (but I didn't have a lot of time).

For tonight, I filled some of the worst gaps with model putty, undercoated the moat area white, added some spackle to smooth the line between the embankment and the 'ground level' and basecoated the turret conical roofs black ([per the painting instructions on Bruce Hirst's web page for the molds):





I've found that the easiest way to work with the spackle is to spread with the end of a plastic utensil, and then dip a finger in water and smooth it on and into the crevices that way.

I'm learning a lot with this project, I just hope I remember any of it when I go to do something like this again!

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/25 00:13:58


Post by: Meer_Cat


A couple more WIP photos, showing the drybrushing on the slate roofs of the turrets and the redone basecoating/drybrushing/washing for the walls generally. My camera doesn't do it justice- I think the effect is very good when you can see it with the Mark I Eyeball. Basecoat of el cheapo craft Dark Grey Granite acrylic (thinned slightly to get it to flow well), then drybrush with Granite Grey (which is very close to the old Space Wolf Grey) and then a wash with a very thinned down Didi's Secret Ink - Black. Anyplace that looked too bright, I hit with more wash. Like I said, I like the effect.

Did some basecoating on the embankment and sides of the moat. When you spray Rustoleum onto pink foam insulation it eats away a little bit and forms a lot of crevices. This would be okay if I wanted a very rocky or volcanic setting, but I want to use some grass and tufts and such, so a more dirt-like surface. I smeared spackle over the roughest spots to smooth them out some, but left enough to be painted as rock outcroppings or just rough terrain for some variety.

I'm also working on the coat of arms to hang over the gate (and help hide the gap between the first floor sections a bit). Still want to follow Wirecat's suggestion and add some moss here and there, and I still have the Artist's Medium to try and work some climbing vines in, just for the practice/experience and partly just for fun. Who knows- someone may want to borrow this beast for D&D and a thief needs to follow a specific route up the walls to get inside by climbing the vines!

More follows soonest.














sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/25 03:23:35


Post by: Captain Brown


Meer_Cat,

Looking good. The drybrushing definitely speeds up painting larger models with good depth.

On the item you raised about faces on this log and in mine. My method is pretty simple, I start with a darker skin tone...so for a human I use Dwarf Flesh. Then a wash of a brown wash (thin it with some water) so that it just fills in all the creases, etc. Once that is dry I go back to a thinned dark skin tone and highlight all the raised areas of the face (brow, checks, nose, chin, etc.). After that is dry I use a lighter skin toned paint, again adding some water to thin it and highlight my highlight (so the edges of the brow, top of checks, face of the nose, etc). Then a little black over the eyes, then pure white inside that in a thin line, then a dot of black for the pupil in the center of the white (make certain it reaches the black above and below so you just have the white on each side) and you are done.

Hope that helps,

CB


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/26 12:26:13


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks, Captain!

I'll give your face painting method a try; my alternative is to use only gasmask wearing troops! I'll hit on a method I like one day. What you describe is very similar to the way I do Napoleonic 'true scale' 25mm (back in the day- I'm not sure anyone makes those anymore). I'm quite good working at 54mm scale- at the rate '28mm' are expanding it won't be long before we're all painting 54's anyway!

I remember the outrage in the 'true believer' gaming circles when Games Workshop '25's' came out, really 28's, now those are being pushed aside for 30's, 32's and even 35mm figures. Of course, 15mm and 10mm armies are coming back into vogue for large campaigns also....



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/27 07:58:46


Post by: Camkierhi


Nice work on the terrain.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/28 12:15:05


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Cam. Trying a couple of new things here. Still trying to get back up to speed for modeling with a number of recent changes. Water seeks its own level- a new equilibrium will emerge, Yoda, blah blah blah....


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/28 13:34:48


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Looking pretty nice there Meer_Cat!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/29 21:16:47


Post by: Wirecat


It's getting better!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/29 23:08:30


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks CK, Wirecat! After the Necromunda piece and now this, when it's finished I'm definitely ready to get back to some nice, normal, 40th millennium infantry! Learning a lot though!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/10/31 14:17:45


Post by: CommissarKhaine


I find that working in different scales adds a lot to your skillset on 28mm as well. It's like playing a different position in a teamsport, in that it opens up your mind and changes your perspective.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/01 00:06:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


True, CK. The danger here is that, whilst working on a castle, now I'm all wild to paint WHFB, or some equivalent rules set (I've got a ton of figures coming from various kickstarters that would fit right in!). I'm also busy at the moment resisting the siren song of Bushido, so there's that.

I forgot my little camera at the farm this past Sunday, so tried to take WIP pics with my camera and they all came out fuzzy, so no pics tonight. Suffice to say, I'm done mucking about with washes on the walls, have started picking out all the lintel work in a lighter sandstone color to provide some relief from all the grey, have basecoated the embankments and am finished applying washes to them. Nearly ready to mess about with the Realistic Water and tint from Woodland Scenics, which is completely new for me, so a good lesson.

More follows when there is something worth talking about and I have a decent picture taking device to capture it with!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 00:24:26


Post by: Meer_Cat


Just a general update, as I'm still working on the castle gatehouse. Nearly done with the washing and weathering on the building proper though, and will be able to start on the terrain scenicking and especially trying out the water effects soon. Time has been a precious commodity lately, and of course tempus fugit.

I did manage to pick up some more bits from a seller n Etsy called Funboardgames. These are 3D printed heavy weapons, suitable for titans, vehicles or ground mounted teams. We're not talking crew served weapons though- these are definitely vehicle mounted or towed. The prints are very crisp, the detail I think is very good- so good that I ordered a second set after the first arrived (not that I need any of them, you understand, they just looked so good!). Jose shipped them fast and well packaged, I'm entirely happy with them. They were US$4.50 apiece, sold in sets of four (one of each weapon). I haven't asked, but I would be willing to bet that he would consider printing and shipping (free shipping) four of the same, if someone wanted. I'm thinking of magnetizing the heck out of everything and using a Robogear T-rex Walker as the platform to carry most, if not all, of them (not at the same time, naturally. Although.....)

Here's some pics, including a scale shot with a GW Cadian for size (not painted by me, it's an eBay salvage waiting its turn):

Cannon:


Dual Lascannon (the castings are to elevated the barrels, I think a bit of rubber in the sockets would increase the friction so that they will stay where I want them):


Rocket/Missile Battery:


Chainguns:


Components (I think I can magnetize the mount to the base too- so the weapon can be on a defense wall, or moved to a ground mount, a Rhino, etc):


Scale shot:


Thanks for looking in, more follows soonest!

Projects lined up after the gatehouse:

Occulte Predators Fantasy (and hot!) Football Team
Archon Empire of Men forces
Archon Dominion forces
Sisters of Battle Squad
Yada, yada, yada....


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 00:38:44


Post by: Camkierhi


Really nice guns, How noticable are the layer lines. Looking forward to seeing the gatehouse done.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 01:11:44


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Cam! Here's a better pic to show the layer lines- I had to get as close as I could and at an angle to get them to show properly. They seem so fine (to me, at least, but I'm new to 3D printing) that at any distance over a few inches the plastic looks burnished, rather than uneven:





sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 04:09:07


Post by: Briancj


There are many ways to remove the 'layer lines' of a 3d print, including gap-filling primer coats (light, multiple) and putting them in a 'bath' of acetone fumes. Search the interwebs for "smoothing 3d prints" and experiment!

--Brian



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 11:57:40


Post by: Cleatus


Nice guns.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 12:21:32


Post by: Syro_


Nice find Meer_Cat, those are good looking guns


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/22 18:31:01


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Those look pretty good, nice find!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/25 13:32:15


Post by: Wirecat


*Watching with extreme interest from the shadows* Right and proper!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/11/25 17:25:12


Post by: monkeytroll


Certainly look okay for the price. And twin rotary cannons are always useful.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 01:20:53


Post by: Meer_Cat


Okay, the exterior of the gatehouse is done as it is going to get. One day, I reckon to come back and do some work on the interior, but for now I'm tired of castles and want to get back into things with more dakka- like my Empire of Men figures (which have finally arrived).

I have a metric crap-tonne of pictures to show, I didn't realize how long it had been since I showed any WIP.

Here's what we started with:



The last update showed through the stage of smoothing out a new moat-bank and adding some spackle to make the seams a little bit better. I messed about with drybrushing to get three distinct colors layered on: dark grey, light grey and white- you'll see those in the pics coming up.

I also decided that the façade was too uniformly dingy and needed some color to contrast, so I painted and then washed all the trim masonry bits around arrow slits, the overhang towerlets, etc to look like maybe a type of sandstone.

I also wanted a vine of some sort growing up the side- what castle doesn't hav a way for the hero to sneak in, or out as the case may be? A little greenstuff for the vine and I clipped some bits off a fake weed I got from the hobby store and we have this:









All the sections still lift apart, and I like how it came out. You can also see the first basecoat of 'moat bottom' colors preparatory to pouring the Woodland Scenics Realistic Water (with 'Murky' Tint). I hadn't used this stuff before, read everything I could find for how-to and tips and had fairly good results but not everything I'd like. I may try something different next time, but by golly there will be a next time, because this was fun!



This next pic shows one difficulty that the articles had mentioned: the fake water leaking out. Naturally, one side, with blue masking tape, was tight as a drum. The other side had blue masking tape, clear packing tape, tape sealed with white glue- no dice. What finally worked was to liberally pile salt up along the edge (afterwards, everything crumbled away easy as you please):



And here's the more or less finished look:



Like I said, more or less what I wanted, but next time I will use different bottom colors and a different tint and much more tint.

Now, I still had major gaps between the sections that form the drawbridge opening. On the one side, I had the cheap brooch from Goodwill:





This is glued to the lefthand section with greenstuff. For the back, I wanted a banner, or flag or something that could be magnetized and removed so that the sections come apart more easily less risk of breaking something. So I took some greenstuff and freehanded the White Rose of the House of York (because I was stationed near York at one point in my service career, sorry Lancastrians!):







The magnets were set into the greenstuff at the beginning step and I glued small washer gears to the wall itself- works like a charm!

Here's some final shots of the whole thing:























These last three hopefully give a better idea of how all the sections fit together to form the four story gatehouse:







So, this update was a long time coming- I'll try not to let things get out of hand so much on the next one (already started on Empire of Men Marksmen Fire Team). Had a lot of fun and learned a lot:

- First time using water effects on a diorama
- Different kinds of greenstuff sculpts, new experience
- First time painting castle stone walls
- First time freehanding a banner (and don't you know _tat's_ going to be happening again!)
- The gatehouse was built literally years ago (I thin early 2015) but it was the first model I built with the idea that it could be taken apart to allow gaming inside

Thank you for looking in, those of you who made it this far. I look forward to your constructive criticism, suggestions and observations.

More follows soonest!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 02:26:06


Post by: Theophony


So great job is definitely worthy to be said here. Love the drawbridge and piers to support it. The murky water looks good too, I’m still messing about with Elmer’s glue cause it’s cheap . The broach idea was great, I was actually at hobby lobby looking at pins/broaches/beads About an hour ago for a similar idea. Nice job on the banner as well.

The best part of this update though is that ivy . Well done. I hate ivy climbing buildings, but that looks very realistic.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 02:31:08


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks very much, Theo! Even with the 'sandstone', it was just too much grey, needed breaking up!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 03:05:19


Post by: Camkierhi


Excellent result bud, give yourself a good pat on the back, really great work. Took a while , but next time will be better. Good lessons learned. All round great project.

Looking forward to seeing what is next.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 03:12:20


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Cam! With the change in schedule at work, I just don't have as much time to devote to the hobby. I like how this came out, for the most part- things to try differently next time, as you say. I do want to double back and do some interior work- drybrushing the walls for some color, maybe try painting some carpets and tapestries directly onto the stone, or some more greenstuff work. I really do want this to be the gatehouse of a modular, much larger piece one day too- which means building some wall sections!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 17:33:08


Post by: Briancj


That all looks MOST excellent!

--B.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/06 22:17:30


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks briancj! I learned a lot working on this- not least that with changed conditions at work, I need to accept that time management for the modeling is also going to change. I enjoy what I can get in, that's for sure!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 01:40:49


Post by: Syro_


Wow, I really like how the pennant of the flower turned out, very nice!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 02:05:31


Post by: Meer_Cat


Greenstuff- is there _anything_ it can't do?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 08:31:18


Post by: JohnnyHell


The castle is fantastic!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 14:18:12


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks JH! My first wife accused me once of being able to find a brick walking home from work and then having planned the Taj Mahal to build in my head by the time I got home. In this instance, there's a lot more I want to do to add to this piece, I just might not live long enough to get everything done! Glad you like it- it means a lot to me when fellow Dakkanauts take the time to comment (even with constructive criticism) on something I've worked/tried hard on.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 19:09:23


Post by: Theophony


The evil sadist in me wants to find where you live, figure out your route home and leave little obscure items along the route to see what comes up next . Kind of like a DakkaDakka white elephant present , but instead of just seeing their expression once you get to watch their blog every update to see what you caused.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 21:34:51


Post by: Meer_Cat


You guys don't have to waylay me on my home- I read your blogs! Do you know how hard I've been resisting getting into Bushido because of you and Gits? Every time I read a new entry by any of you- I'm already off to the races! Dakka is better than the small group I used to paint with oh-so-long-ago: there's a lot more of you, you're all more dedicated to the hobby and you have a lot more interests. I'm home, man, really home!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/07 22:03:17


Post by: monkeytroll


Gatehouse is looking good, nice work.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/08 01:54:52


Post by: kestral


Love your found object work!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/09 01:15:19


Post by: Meer_Cat


It comes from being half packrat- once you get caught hoarding all your treasures, you have to come up with a justification or else people just hink you're crazy


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/11 02:28:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


The next project for me is the Marksman Fire Team from the Empire of Men Kickstarter. I've got the five figures for the section plus the platoon leader, so lots of options for using them if I ever get to game again. I hadn't counted on them being 28mm 'normal' scale, instead heroic, like GW and others- they are very small. But amongst all the figures I got (female and male stormtroopers, commandos, heavy weapons, psykers, rough riders, vehicles, etc) I can field a homogenous force of up to 2500 points, I reckon, so all good. The detail is excellent and the animation is truly top notch (I think). Three of the six have their pistols (M1911's, from the look, although possibly Browning Hi-Powers) out, so I think they must be particularly bloodthirsty Valkyries and- having deliberately dropped their target with a non-instantly fatal shot to the A Zone, have now sauntered up to put the finishing coup de grace in the head, up close and personal.

Here's my palette I intend using for them:



And here's the section on painting bases primed and the start of base coating:



Learning objectives for this project are:

* Make best use of time to get them done fairly quickly (not speed painting, per se, but get 'em done as I have a lot more to do- there's all the Dominion stuff I got that has to be got to)
* Detail the bases a bit more realistically and in a more substantial fashion than I have done in the past
* Don't start any other projects until these gals are done

These to me are reasonable objectives.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/11 09:47:04


Post by: Camkierhi


Dakka is a wonderous and terrible thing. Has been a real and genuine home and friend and also a serious task master. No one ever pressures you, but you feel you must try harder, must give an update.

Latest are looking super straight away. For a bit of speed, play with washes a bit more. You can get a model to a happy standard in quick order and can always go back later and add more detail. Even with not being heroic scaled the guns are awesome looking.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/12 03:11:52


Post by: Meer_Cat


I'm finishing up basecoating now Cam, and will be relying heavily on washes after that (hard not to get sucked in and start painting the small details though- these figures are really fine!). It's funny though, these figures are better proportioned, but fit right in with Rogue Trader era Imperial Guard. It must be all those growth hormones in the food- "28mm" has gotten bigger over the last thirty years!

Hope to have some completed basecoating pics tomorrow.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/12 10:54:27


Post by: Theophony


Interesting models, who are they made by?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/13 01:33:33


Post by: Meer_Cat


Het Theo- these are by Archon Studios, from their Empire of Men kickstarter. The seem to be a proper design studio, in that they have two previous kickstarters, plus EOM and have recently completed their Ramparts KS with Empire cathedral and Aztec temple pieces- really cool. They also launched a board game, Chronicle X (aliens trying to take over the Earth, what shall we do?) and provide figure ranges for other companies' kickstarter campaigns.

I don't think they run their own production, but I'm pretty sure they do their own design work.

Working on figures this small and fine takes me back to my Napoleonics days!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/13 04:19:45


Post by: Theophony


 Meer_Cat wrote:
Het Theo- these are by Archon Studios, from their Empire of Men kickstarter. The seem to be a proper design studio, in that they have two previous kickstarters, plus EOM and have recently completed their Ramparts KS with Empire cathedral and Aztec temple pieces- really cool. They also launched a board game, Chronicle X (aliens trying to take over the Earth, what shall we do?) and provide figure ranges for other companies' kickstarter campaigns.

I don't think they run their own production, but I'm pretty sure they do their own design work.

Working on figures this small and fine takes me back to my Napoleonics days!


That’s why I am partly familiar with them. Archon Studios IS Prodos Games. The same owners and employees who did the Aliens Kickstarter, just in another company banner. Fishy business practices.

I like some designs they have done, but I have stayed away because of their issues with Prodos.

You’ll do an excellent job on them I know .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/14 01:23:27


Post by: Meer_Cat


I've heard something about this fracas with Prodos- didn't realize that it was Archon involved. I'll perform some greater due diligence before I back them again- thanks for the heads up!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Base coating nearly done- caps to do and then highlighting and washes can begin.




The large blank areas at the hips are the turnbacks on the coatees- I painted them graphite blue (a very pale Prussian Blue) which is nearly my own Infantry sky-blue, nut under any kind of light through the camera it looks almost white. Hopefully better with some 'low-lights'.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/20 02:51:15


Post by: Meer_Cat


The sniper fire team and their officer is complete:



The officer:


Trooper:



With sniper's hood up:





The Sergeant:



Trooper:



Trooper:


New things tried:

* First time gluing the figures to a bit of sprue to act as a stand whilst painting; I've seen several of you do that and it proved very handy
* Tried a different way of 'rapidly' scenicking the bases- it turned out okay, but I'll try something different next time
* Dynamic posing- some of the figures lent themselves to very dynamic poses, I tried to 'compose' the shot I wanted and based/built towards that
*Outlining- a trick I was taught when painting Napoleonics was to paint a belt, strap, button,etc black first, then to add the primary color into that, so that it came out 'outlined' i black to emphasize the item. It's hard to see, but I used that technique in a couple of places on each figure in this set
* Bluing- I tried using a metallic blue acrylic thinned heavily as a wash to 'blue' the rifle barrels, but it didn't work too well, I may repaint as just flat black
* Angled flashlights on packs- I thought these were a terrific detail, so I spent more time painting them than probably was needed

Thanks for letting me share here. As always, your criticism, suggestions, advice and observations are most welcome.

I've a couple of things in mind to paint next, we'll see what grabs the fancy when I actually sit down to start something!

More follows soonest.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/20 03:03:33


Post by: Theophony


I really like the shading on the coat sleeve and sniper hood.

I’ll give you one piece of advice that I don’t follow very well, that’s better lighting on the picture. I’ve started putting my figures up closer to the light and on the other side of the bulb than I am on. I think it helps, and as I will not invest in a light box it’s a simple improvement that will let us see more detail.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/20 22:04:11


Post by: shasolenzabi


Sniper team is looking good!
color scheme fits, and the posing is very nice.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/20 22:45:37


Post by: Syro_


Looking good, but that's especially cool how many new things you tried.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/22 14:54:02


Post by: Dr H


Good work and nice to see you trying all the new things.

I shall echo Theo' and cry "Aziz...!"


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/22 15:18:19


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks all for the feedback- I learn something with each new effort. I've something new in mind for the next project- an older piece from Tehnolog/Robogear that will probably wind up being a 'counts-as' Sentinel- but it's not the T-Rex walker! The specific 'new thing learned' will be to try something new with pattern stencils and using light better.

For these snipers, the castings looked good to the Mark I Eyeball (with my eyeglasses) and also under my magnifier that I use for painting. But looking at the close up pics from even my chap little Canon camera, while some details come through amazing (the angle flashlights on the packs) others (the hands/gloves) have molding seams and flaws that I just couldn't see until the pic was taken. The stormtroopers (male and female) that are part of this release are a bit more robust, so maybe a bit better cast.

And Doc- thanks for The Fifth Element reference- one of my favorite movies.

All I can say in response is Multipass!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/22 15:39:55


Post by: monkeytroll


Good job on the sniper team!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/24 11:31:48


Post by: Wirecat


Sorry for being late to the party - but that castle came out wonderfully. From vines to the very English rose and from very gradual water depth shading to the walls - very well executed, sir! The result is a very pleasing _fantasy_ castle. Overdone, but not too much. This, in my eyes, is how the tabletop games should be played!

Regarding snipers - very nice, but personally... I'd have swapped heads of the last two troopers. This wave long hairdo is indeed very dynamic, but it suggests that the trooper moves in the direction she is looking towards while her body implies she is crouching or changing position, not running towards the target. Ponytail is more "direction-agnostic".

Or... spray her white and orange from the front, like she is blasted by a huge explosion triggered by her shot, anime style.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/24 22:17:39


Post by: Camkierhi


Great work bud, really nice team, the rifles really look the part on those sculpts. Good work all round.

Merry Christmas sir, hope you have a great day.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/24 22:44:46


Post by: Meer_Cat


 monkeytroll wrote:
Good job on the sniper team!


Thank you Monkeytroll! Really though, this effort was more for the learning than the outcome. It's been awhile since I've painted 'true scale' 28mm figures- these are _almost_ big 25mm- like some Napoleonics were back in the day. I have to chuckle, because the Nap purists hated Games Workshop and their heretical "big 25's"; now GW is having to creep up as more and more manufacturers go to 30, 32 and even 40 or 45mm scales (heroic or otherwise).

Wirecat wrote:
Sorry for being late to the party - but that castle came out wonderfully. From vines to the very English rose and from very gradual water depth shading to the walls - very well executed, sir! The result is a very pleasing _fantasy_ castle. Overdone, but not too much. This, in my eyes, is how the tabletop games should be played!

Regarding snipers - very nice, but personally... I'd have swapped heads of the last two troopers. This wave long hairdo is indeed very dynamic, but it suggests that the trooper moves in the direction she is looking towards while her body implies she is crouching or changing position, not running towards the target. Ponytail is more "direction-agnostic".

Or... spray her white and orange from the front, like she is blasted by a huge explosion triggered by her shot, anime style.


Thank you for the kind words regarding the castle Wirecat! That one was a lot of fun and long overdue (I'm pretty sure I built and primered that thing back in 2015). I always intended it for a gatehouse, but given the size and weight, I may make a companion piece that fits against the back and it can be a playable keep. I'll still have to build some wall units and a (smaller) gateway to get in, but it's all fun.

I like your idea of adding the OSL anime effects. These figures didn't come with separate heads- what you see is pretty much what you got; the arms and rifles had to be glued on. I didn't even think as I was laying out the posing how the hair would look- body in motion one way, hair running off on its own another direction.... But I've always wanted to try OSL, have been ogling the blogs here and watching a lot of YouTube vids- this might be very do-able. If not now, when? If not me, who?

 Camkierhi wrote:
Great work bud, really nice team, the rifles really look the part on those sculpts. Good work all round.

Merry Christmas sir, hope you have a great day.


Thanks very much Cam- but I know I've done better work. Tried some new things (and now have even more ideas to try) and had some fun. Not least in that I could move a unit from "concept" to "finished" in less than a month. I remember when I was stationed in Yorkshire there was an Irish pundit- I think his name was Steve Irwin (possibly Allen) and his closing line for his show was: "And may your God go with you." Except on Christmas he would say: "Let's hope for better things- may our God go with us."

Merry Christmas, my friends!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2018/12/24 23:19:21


Post by: Camkierhi


Dave Allan. And indeed, may your God be with you. Truly funny man, would be hung for a bigot now.

To me one of the best things about this hobby is how much you will always have to learn. Always new challenges.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/08 02:22:43


Post by: Meer_Cat


I found these wannabe Transformer mobile rocket launcher tanks at the dollar store and couldn't stop myself saying out loud in the store "I can make something out of these". They're about the size of a standard Matchbox car. Here's a shot in the various incarnations- 'mint in box', as a tank and as a (sort of) robot:



Amazing what you see in the photo that you didn't see in the viewfinder- I had the 'robot' version (on the left, in the pic) turned backwards- I'll take another so you can see the Transformer-like 'face'.

Here's the Games Workshop heavy bolter, lascannon and auto-cannon pieces cut out, trimmed, mold lines removed (more extensively than I've done before, really put some effort in this time) and barrels drilled out:



Next will be to cut away the fittings currently on the models and see how I'm going to arrange the bigger GW weapons. I'm hoping to run a new bit of styrene pipette through the stand piece in the middle, and insert magnets so that I can swap weapons with the ground mount versions I've yet to put together. That way, I can have a ground or self-propelled battery of whatever I want, if I ever get to play again.

Once layout is established, it's time for primer and painting.

More follows soonest.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/08 03:09:54


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


are these for Titanicus or will they be some sort of go cart servitors?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/09 01:31:14


Post by: Meer_Cat


Hey Kid- thank you for looking in. I don't play Titanicus (at least, not yet); I actually did have making a servitor-type model in mind when I snatched these up and ran chortling to the check out. This picture shows that they are a little bit big for that- even for the DreamForge Panzerjaeger on the left (old school GW Beaky Marine and newer Cadian Sergeant on the right):



I was then going to make them into counts-as heavy weapons teams, using the chassis like the figures from Mad Robot and others- but they don't fit on a 60mm base too well, so I wasn't too thrilled with that idea (hard to fit crew on there with them). But what I think I will do is make each platform a dual weapon (2 lascannon, autocannon or heavy bolter, or a mixture of all three- they will be magnetized to swap around) and call 'em counts-as either Rapiers or mobile Tarantulas.

Here's a shot showing the front of the 'robot' extended out:



I removed the existing armament (and I'm saving those suckers, they'll be perfect for something!):



Now that I look at the one chassis partly unfolded, I could probably make a battery of self-propelled mortars. If the dollar store still has more of these when I go back.....

And I fitted a piece of styrene tube into the slot that was just the right size to not have to drill out the slot and also accommodated the 3mm magnets I had left over from building the Robogear SPAAG:



A trick I learned from a Dakkanaut here about magnetizing was to keep the magnets all together as a stick, so that you could make sure that the orientation was correct and that the different armaments loadouts for a vehicle could all be moved around to the different attachment points. In this case, I not only want to be able to move the guns around on the [platform, but amongst the battery and even with other ground mount sets, so they _all_ have to be oriented the same polarity. So I added the bit of tape, with the end arrow pointing towards which end of the stack goes 'in' to the vehicle or mount, with the other side facing out. Theoretically, everything should line up. I've heard guys say here also that they paint one side red, the other blue when they first get the magnets in from the post, so they can achieve the same universal polarity.

That's about it for tonight. Tomorrow I hope to build the gun yokes and maybe get everything base coated, but we'll see.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/09 01:35:54


Post by: Theophony


Those are a great basis for weapons platforms. I did something similar with some clearance bin dystopian wars tanks, but you win with dollar store buys.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/09 05:32:53


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


What about mounting torsos of some sort with weapon arms? Basically the AM's go cart guys but for the IG?


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/13 11:44:55


Post by: Syro_


@Kid_Kyoto: Are you suggesting mechanicus Kataphron destroyers and breachers? When you mentioned servator torsos, that what I thought of.

@Meer_Cat: Looking good so far, I like the ideas for the swap-able turrets.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/13 16:45:06


Post by: Camkierhi


Nice weapon platforms. One thing I am learning is it is all good and great to have options and swaps possible, but storing and messing about with them is a pain in the long run, sometimes you are better off just making a decision and fixing those puppies in place. Don't let that stop you though.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/15 00:16:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks all for the comments and suggestions- what with a new office project, the partial government shutdown and weather over here it's been quite hectic. Rest assured, I am following all y'alls blogs, even if I don't have time to comment as much as I would like!

I'm on the fence about magnetization: on the one hand, I love the idea of being able to customize a game team right down to the heavy weapons (remembering that I grew up in an age of Warhammer 40k when you could buy _one_ krak grenade and give it to a specific model- you just had to put a piece of tape on the underside of the model's base to prove it)- it's a CDO (OCD with the letters in the right order) dream! And let's not forget the 'find a brick, build the Taj Majal' syndrome!

On the other hand, Cam has a very good point about keeping track of all that junk. The SPAAG I customized at the beginning of this blog is a case in point: it's one of the few things I have that _is_ magnetized at the moment and I've got keep after it to have its three sets of weapons not go straying.

It's funny, because the whole 'magnetize it' comes from my core inclination that I'm going to game these things. We've had a previous discussion about that earlier in these pages, and I just can't change my nature to build things so they can be gamed (albeit, sometimes with the expectation of a broadly interpretive and generous group to allow some of what I do).

And I'm cool with that- it gives my modeling/painting world structure (very few of us can handle a truly 'resources unconstrained' environment in which we have total freedom of expression) and still leaves me to build out the occasional diorama if I want.

I've just got so much to paint up!

Thank you all for the comments, suggestions, constructive criticisms and for just showing an interest. Knowing that someone besides me is actually looking at my pieces and projects is a huge reward for the effort.

Rock on.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/15 02:44:05


Post by: Briancj


I have an entire plastic storage box with alternate weapons for my tanks, walkers, etc. However, I can say I CONSIDERED, but never went as far as implementing what others have done, which is to magnetize individual infantry weapons for swapping.

My rationale was never 'gaming the system', however.

I'm just cheap.

I never saw the need to buy ANOTHER vehicle, when I could swap weapons on the ones I already owned. And once I hit a decent # of vehicles (usually groups of 3), I just stopped buying them.

$$$ to spend in other places.

My $0.02, keep up the good work, Meer!

--B.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/15 03:21:32


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Syro_ wrote:
@Kid_Kyoto: Are you suggesting mechanicus Kataphron destroyers and breachers? When you mentioned servator torsos, that what I thought of.



Yeah those.

The GW Stupid Name part of my brain filled up years ago.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/20 19:46:14


Post by: Wirecat


Looks promising. Mechanical bodies instead of turrets would really add to the weirdness here! I don't know much about current GW, but back in the day there were some big tracked dudes with a cannon. And then there are hovering necrons...


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/23 02:13:09


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I'm definitely following up on them. The 'big tracked dudes' I think you mean, Wirecat, are Kataphron Destroyers. I stumbled across a pic in the gallery and then went and looked up more images in the innerwebz. Once I finish the more 'normal' platforms, those are next (naturally, I went and bought three more toys from the dollar store). I have some Robogear troopers that are really too big for 28-32mm scale, but should be perfect for this application. Shoot, now that I read back a bit, Syro gave the answer ages ago- Kataphron Destroyers. So between you three- Kid_Kyoto, Wirecat and Syro- there's my next project lined up! I don't even know whose side the Destroyers are on!

Here's some pics with the gun systems all installed. Per my inner agreement with myself, all are fully interchangeable. The packs, radios, ammo boxes and such may shift around a little, and I believe I will hang track skirts over the sides to make them easier to paint:







The dingus mounted opposite the lascannon is supposed to be a target acquisition radar, or something- it's literally there to balance the lascannon out (also magnetized so it can move with the cannon). The power pack for the cannon is mounted on a stud behind the monitor of the vehicle and connected by the cable you see; each of the tracked platforms has the same stud (a piece of styrene channel) in the same place, so theoretically, I can pull the lascannon off for something else and put it back on any of the platforms at need.

Really though, it's a cross between what Cam and Briancj have said earlier: I can swap everything around, but in the end, to avoid the pain in the tuckus, I'll probably leave everything assembled just as if it had been glued up. Still, good practice and experience for me.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/23 17:21:05


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Looking real good!

Budget Hammer for the win!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/24 02:25:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Kid! I'm anxious to get these three done so I can start messing about with the Destroyer conversions. I'm wondering (if you have access to the Dollar Tree, and if they carry these toys) if they couldn't be equipped with a water cannon and loudspeakers for street clearing duty wiht your Arbites? Here's the three platforms with everything primed and the hulls basecoated:



Next will be to hit the hulls with some rust/corrosion/scrapes and a wash, and get the guns painted.



More follows soonest.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/24 11:59:30


Post by: Camkierhi


They are looking spot on bud. Really looking forward to the Destroyers. Did a few servator type things with body parts from the Sedition Wars Plague group myself a while back, really enjoyed it. And can see these working out brilliantly.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/24 12:26:42


Post by: Theophony


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Looking real good!

Budget Hammer for the win!


I read budget Hamster for the win! (thinking pet sewer rat)

Really loving these gun carriages. Keep up the good work .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/26 20:49:54


Post by: Wirecat


Hamsters are hoarding creatures, You can't really budget them. But these platforms should look good, not cheap, as a unit or one by one. Neat earthly base color!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/29 01:30:15


Post by: Warboss_Waaazag


Those are cool little tanks. They Remind me of US weapons platforms with a semi-autonmous nature.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/29 01:43:01


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Warboss- that's what I was thinking too, when I saw them! I've got three more to do up as Destroyers next, but after that I may do another set, with features to make them resemble our autonomous systems more closely- and no associated crew.

The real update tonight though, is I can't get any painting in until at least tomorrow. I came home from our little farm where my wife lives and I stay on weekends (we're split base because I have to go where my work is, which is mostly Northern Virginia, for now) and found my kitchenette in the little place I rent under water. I reckon some knucklehead upstairs from me tried to run a softball through the garbage disposal, because now you can hear all four floors yelling when someone tries to use their kitchen sink. About every one and a half hours I have to start bailing out the sink as the back pressure floods it again. The service is coming tomorrow morning and hopefully will be able to effect a repair.

But I can't focus on even base painting and washing when every hour or so a Plague Marine starts crawling out of my sink to which I must attend, rapidly. Others probably have that kind of focus, but I don't.

So, I'm kvetching to y'all and watching Rampant, which is a new movie from Well Go Entertainment set in medieval Korea and they fight zombies with martial arts. How cool is that- zombies and martial arts in the same movie!

Hopefully, more follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/01/29 22:47:34


Post by: Dr H


Nice work on the little armoured thingies.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/08 02:55:29


Post by: Meer_Cat


So, to quote the estimable Doctor, the little armoured thingies are done. Given my penchant for allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good, I could do a lot more to these, and there's a bunch to re-do, even. But for now, they're done. What do we expect for a buck, anyway? Got to try a few new things as well, all need more practice.

Here's a group shot, one each heavy bolter carrier, autocannon carrier, lascannon platform:



The heavy bolter carrier:





The autocannon carrier:





The lascannon platform:





Group shot, bows- on:



New things:

- Used the sponge press method of stippling on rust and scratches using Pavement Black and Vallejo's Rust Wash for the second time. Overall, I like the effect, but want to use it some more to get the right look.

- Tried Object Source Lighting in a small way on the lascannon coils the and the battle scuttle on the autocannon track. The effect is 'okay' as is- could always be better, but would definitely be better if I extended it onto the track itself and not just the weapon. But I remained true to the original proposition that the guns had to be interchangeable between the tracks and (forthcoming) ground platforms, so couldn't make all three 'electrified' from the lascannon overcharge.

- Made more extensive use of decals to add some color. I only have about a billion of these of various sorts hanging about, time to use them up.

-Used zero weathering powders and/or dirt, everything is multiple washes.

- Actually used some of the extra tarps and bedrolls I've made out of surplus/excess greenstuff from other projects (I'm cheap and hate to waste anything). I like how they look hanging off the sides.

- Tried to make what would have been the driver's hatch on the toy into the fueling point/charging port by adding extra grub and rust, to show frequent contact with clumsy soldiers. I actually tried to make 'Unleaded Fuel Only' decals to put on or near each one, but couldn't make them small enough so skipped that.

So I have to say that for a Dollar Store project, I am actually quite happy with the outcomes. I tried some new stuff, learned some things (including what I don't like/doesn't work) and we move on. I've got three more of these little transformer-type robots, and will try to make some Khador Destroyers next. But the very next project- to have some fun and try a new approach to doing eyes- is a female heavy weapons gunner from the Heresy Girls 1.0 range. I've backed all three of his Kickstarters and I need to get some of 'em painted up.

Thank you for looking in. As always, your constructive criticism is always welcome, especially your tips and guidance on the new things I've tentatively tried here- like OSL.

More follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/10 19:08:59


Post by: Wirecat


 Meer_Cat wrote:
New things:

- Used the sponge press method of stippling on rust and scratches using Pavement Black and Vallejo's Rust Wash for the second time. Overall, I like the effect, but want to use it some more to get the right look.

-Used zero weathering powders and/or dirt, everything is multiple washes.

Thant's what I was thinking while looking at pictures - You have used them to a very good effect. Pigments have their use, but not universal one. Not everything needs to be salted with them.

- Tried Object Source Lighting in a small way on the lascannon coils the and the battle scuttle on the autocannon track. The effect is 'okay' as is- could always be better, but would definitely be better if I extended it onto the track itself and not just the weapon. But I remained true to the original proposition that the guns had to be interchangeable between the tracks and (forthcoming) ground platforms, so couldn't make all three 'electrified' from the lascannon overcharge.

Mixing is good, I attest to that!

- Made more extensive use of decals to add some color. I only have about a billion of these of various sorts hanging about, time to use them up.
- Tried to make what would have been the driver's hatch on the toy into the fueling point/charging port by adding extra grub and rust, to show frequent contact with clumsy soldiers. I actually tried to make 'Unleaded Fuel Only' decals to put on or near each one, but couldn't make them small enough so skipped that.


Decals are good and very appropriate too. There is that one more thing powder pigments are good at - weathering decals...

Overall I think this is a great result, Meer Cat. Please continue Your endeavours!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/11 22:33:10


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thank you very much for the detailed (and extensive!) feedback, Wirecat- it is very much appreciated. I've got another vehicle project lined up in my queue- a counts-as Chimera that I reckon to do as a straight build, but put into use the skills I've been developing and practicing using the new air brush. But in the interlude, I've got a perfect figure from Heresy Labs HG 1.0 to try out skin/flesh painting techniques.

I've got the figure, I've got the paints and I've got White Dwarf November 2017 with the instructions! We'll see what happens.

Thanks again for dropping in; I've been watching your sculpts with keen interest as well.



sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/18 17:07:23


Post by: Dr H


Good job on the tiny tank things.



Look good, so no direct feedback, but a couple of hints on the new things you've tried:
Sponge chipping. I do this in a few passes;
1st is the undercoat, do this for where all chips will be, large or small. Some will be left as just the undercoat (not down to the metal). Use a contrasting colour or tone to the paint-job so that it's visible.
2nd is gunmetal, I use an old small brush to add a random shape within the larger chips. leaving just a thin line of the undercoat between metal and paint-job.
3rd is silver, again within the gunmetal shapes. Also can be used for small scratches in addition to the chips.
4th is a little black wash in the middle of only the largest of chips. to give them some depth.

You can also go as far as highlighting the upper edges of chips, but don't tend to because I always mess it up when I've tried. I've not got it to look right.

OSL:
I've found that the source needs to be white at it's brightest and the nearest of the cast light needs to be almost as bright as that. This should blend into the colour at the outer/farthest 20-30% of the area and then blend into the paint-job beyond that seamlessly. Should always result in being lighter than the underlying paint would be (it's being lit up).

If you have any coloured lights/leds about, bring them over and shine them on the model to see what actual light looks like for reference.

Beyond that, I'm not expert in OSL. I rarely use it.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/18 18:36:06


Post by: Meer_Cat


All good points- thanks Doc! The figure I'm doing now doesn't call for chipping/weathering or OSL really, but I've got a vehicle lined up for after that, so will have a chance to give it another go.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/18 23:23:11


Post by: Big H


My two pence worth ref. Chipping. Less is often more when it comes to realistic chipping, when I first started it looked like there was barely any original paint left
Second , as the good Doctor has mentioned the chip will look good if the edge is highlighted, this is really tricky to follow the complicated sponged shape with a brush, make it easy on yourself and brush or sponge the highlight colour on first then go over it with the darker chip colour, it will match up pretty well most of the time .


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/19 01:59:26


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Big H- between all y'all H's I'll give this next vehicle a better go!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/19 18:43:46


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Loving the little tankettes!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/02/20 15:42:33


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks CK! I saw a couple of pieces on- I think- Mad Robot and have been wild to try a 'counts-as' Heavy Weapons self-propelled platform ever since. It occurred to me that I hadn't included any real good scale shots to show size, so here are a couple with the Athena C2V as background and members of the Emperor's Own Space Borderers for comparison:









Thanks for looking in!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/07 01:33:59


Post by: Meer_Cat


So, it's been an interesting couple of weeks and I wanted to post something before you guys got the idea I wasn't coming back and started dividing my camp stuff.

I got a wild hair awhile back and was getting some really good work started, so much in the groove that I began three projects, all different themes (one vehicle, one building, one figure) and as one was drying, I moved on to the next. I was employing Cam's recommended style of having no distractions- not even lyrical music, just instrumentals (as a side note, all those bands from the 80's and 90's and even some from the 70's will never know what they missed, not having me as back up vocals). And then work assigned extra hours since we were coming to the end of the contract period and I was essentially on a double shift. But not getting paid for it- special circumstances, 'for the love of the Corps' and the revolution will be televised. I'm looking around for a new place to light.

So here's a quick look at my three WIPs, with more to follow soonest.

First up is Ursula. This is a Heresy Labs Heresy Girl 1.0 figure from the first kickstarter and I figure can be a counts-as Escher ganger or even a Chaos heavy weapons figure (I don't do Chaos, I'm just not built for it, so ganger it is):



The base coating is done (so long as I keep liking the color scheme- I'm not sure) and now is the highlighting with dry brushing and some more washes.

Next is a cyber-robot-killer machine of death from Tehnolog:



This one is just because it's fun, and a different sort of build for me. I think I gave US$5.00 for this on eBay, and it originally was intended to be a practice project for airbrushing- but the shroud on the back, or carapace, has a lot of detail that I want to pick out, so I'll airbrush something else and use my traditional brush techniques for this.

Finally, I saw a cool Hirst Arts project doing interesting things with recessing the building into the 'hillside' and having a three quarter tower roof built in, so I wanted to try that:



Obviously, this one is least along, but they'll all get done when they get done. We're almost done with the Bataan Death Shift, so I'm hoping to get back into the swing on Monday.

Thanks for looking in, and more follows soonest.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/07 01:45:36


Post by: Briancj


I do love all of the Tehnolog stuff. So gloriously Russian!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/07 02:08:11


Post by: Meer_Cat


Me too. I've still got a couple of Trex walkers to put together- they're my favorite of the Robogear walker platforms. And I want to see what I can put together for IG flyers by customizing/converting the Spruit and other flying platforms I picked up. I tend to save up and buy a bunch at a time; when you're paying the shipping from Russia, it's actually cost effective if the order is large enough.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/08 20:06:10


Post by: Camkierhi


Lots of nice work going on here, looking forward to killer robot.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/12 22:36:03


Post by: Dr H


Interesting projects. Look forward to more.


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/13 21:16:04


Post by: Meer_Cat


Thanks Doc, Cam. I was wondering if everyone had gone radio-silent since the new year- I've commented quite a few places but don't get a lot of response. I have noticed a pronounced slow-down in activity since the start of the New Year though (not just my own). Fewer postings in the blogs, lots fewer pictures posted in the galleries.

Nothing Spring won't cure, I reckon!


sCratchbuilding Customizing & Citbashing: LOER Project  @ 2019/03/14 16:18:02


Post by: Theophony


I’ll admit to being less active, even my posts are more dump and runs. Tons of events, sickness and picking up OT which was rarely offered to me plus video games.......

Heresy Lab Chick looks great, definitely Escher material.

I’ll have to look at getting some of the tehnolog stuff, it’s better looking than the couple kits I’ve seen on the clearance racks at the FGS. Maybe those were the dogs of the line.