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Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 12:12:11


Post by: dsteingass


That Bridge is EPIC! I knew when you bought that, it was destined for the Underhive!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 15:56:04


Post by: Theophony


inmygravenimage wrote:Bridge looks amazing. Cars are a bloody menace.

Wife's car ran smooth for me last night, there's a recall we never got notified about, so hopefully that will get fixed and we will be good. They are still futzing with my car .

dsteingass wrote:That Bridge is EPIC! I knew when you bought that, it was destined for the Underhive!

Oh yeah, that's why I bought it when I saw someone else point it out. It has been rotting in my underhive for a while waiting for a gang to claim it.

Well eclipse happens here in about an hour with the total eclipse being about 2.5 hours from now for my area. We are in the narrow band of totality, so I will have a whole 1minute and 30 seconds where I live to view it . I got the special glasses and everything. Once in every 99 years I think they say this happens. On a slightly preachy note, when Jesus died on the cross the sun refused to shine, I can't help but think back to that story thinking about what it must have been like. I guess I'll get a slight glimpse of what it may have been like later today.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 16:12:32


Post by: GrimDork


We migrated to my grandmother-in-law's home about 30 minutes south to catch 1 minute and 22 seconds of totality. I believe there's another one of these in the States in 2024 but after that we may not live to see another since so many crisscross the oceans.

Remember you need the glasses before and after the totality period but for the minute and a half you get a show for the nekkid eye. But check with a scientist, don't blind yerself in my account


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 16:27:14


Post by: Desubot


 Theophony wrote:

You the man Shaso .

Well my wife's car broke down when she picked me up last night from work. Some camshaft selenoid thingy. It was working fine this morning and eventually (20 minutes of fiddling with it) got us home, but just another bump in life. God says he doesn't give us more than we can handle, but some day I want to have a little chat with him about that .

While chilling out this morning I came across a cool video for a workbench that I'd love to eventually build for myself as a gaming table. I say eventually as my basement floor is not level enough for this to b practical, but maybe one of you all would enjoy it.



just saw that video my self.

i dont know if i like the idea of the top area popping up.

especially if you leave a ton of stuff on top of your work bench and need to get into it side drawers under need would probably be better.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 16:31:24


Post by: GrimDork


Yah I usually cover any available surface myself


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 16:42:17


Post by: Theophony


GrimDork wrote:We migrated to my grandmother-in-law's home about 30 minutes south to catch 1 minute and 22 seconds of totality. I believe there's another one of these in the States in 2024 but after that we may not live to see another since so many crisscross the oceans.

Remember you need the glasses before and after the totality period but for the minute and a half you get a show for the nekkid eye. But check with a scientist, don't blind yerself in my account

Yeah the 99 years is when it goes sea to shining sea here in America next. I just saw that on our news channel as well, so you won't be the only person I'd sue

Desubot wrote:
 Theophony wrote:

You the man Shaso .

Well my wife's car broke down when she picked me up last night from work. Some camshaft selenoid thingy. It was working fine this morning and eventually (20 minutes of fiddling with it) got us home, but just another bump in life. God says he doesn't give us more than we can handle, but some day I want to have a little chat with him about that .

While chilling out this morning I came across a cool video for a workbench that I'd love to eventually build for myself as a gaming table. I say eventually as my basement floor is not level enough for this to b practical, but maybe one of you all would enjoy it.



just saw that video my self.

i dont know if i like the idea of the top area popping up.

especially if you leave a ton of stuff on top of your work bench and need to get into it side drawers under need would probably be better.


I'm thinking of it more for gaming. Most of the games I would do would be on the 4'x4' table, so the two side tables could store dice, accessories and zombie hordes that could be used while playing on the 4x4. Drawers would be better, but this level is more manageable for me.

GrimDork wrote:Yah I usually cover any available surface myself

You have seen pictures of my basement work area right .

Sitting down and flipping through the rules for Test of Honour while waiting for the sun to disappear. When I was waiting on my car Saturday one of the people who came into the shop was looking for 2 trailer tires. They were supposed to be 2 hrs south of us getting set up in a field for the event.saturday morning is no time to look for tires, especially special trailer tires.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/21 17:27:58


Post by: Red Harvest


Theo, get yourself the hardware to level table legs and build your dream workbench. It's easy stuff to install.

Waiting on the eclipse myself. We're getting 80% coverage here in the Old Line State. (Maryland's nick, like Missouri is the Show Me state. )

That bridge has tremendous potential. Have fun with it.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/22 15:59:01


Post by: Theophony


 Red Harvest wrote:
Theo, get yourself the hardware to level table legs and build your dream workbench. It's easy stuff to install.

Waiting on the eclipse myself. We're getting 80% coverage here in the Old Line State. (Maryland's nick, like Missouri is the Show Me state. )

That bridge has tremendous potential. Have fun with it.

Thanks Red. I could get the leveling hardware, but then I'd have to adjust it every time I move the table. I think I'm just going to build a 4x4 table and deal with it.

Speaking of building. I saw my box of sedition wars stuff( doors and terrain) and grabbed some styrofoam I saved from the trash. I'm give you shaft 2-7. The door to an elevator below ground.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/23 02:01:50


Post by: GrimDork


Always a useful bit or sceney


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/23 04:39:50


Post by: JoshInJapan


That's a good start on a nifty terrain piece. I wonder where my SW terrain set is......


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/23 07:27:59


Post by: cormadepanda


You remain creative as always


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/23 12:33:34


Post by: dsteingass


I really like those doors, makes me wish I had some.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/23 15:55:03


Post by: Camkierhi


Got a few you can have Dave, looks great Theo, could do another, and have a secret tunnel type scenario.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 00:51:40


Post by: Theophony


GrimDork wrote:Always a useful bit or sceney

Easy line of sight blocker and I'm digging (bad pun intended) the idea of the genestealer cults being miners.

JoshInJapan wrote:That's a good start on a nifty terrain piece. I wonder where my SW terrain set is......

Yeah, too bad they have canned that set. Just because the game sucked and there was such a hate on for the figs (which were great at bottom basement prices), they still could have rebranded the terrain

cormadepanda wrote:You remain creative as always

Thanks Cormadepanda , glad to see you back and active. And with a Titan maniple no less

dsteingass wrote:I really like those doors, makes me wish I had some.

They were the gems of the set. There's plenty in a box if you manage to get one. I'm planning on many more of these type mining pieces.

Camkierhi wrote:Got a few you can have Dave, looks great Theo, could do another, and have a secret tunnel type scenario.

Yeah the premise is to build a few with some being the smaller single doors and a couple of two door pieces. A small tables worth where the miners dug out the homes before the terraforming was done, so everything is cheap and sealed. They could transplant easy onto other tables and be used as the "Vents" in Necromunda.

In the mean time I stopped by MM and lucked out with finding a Bat Mite promo figure for $7.50 his plastic prison is crushed, but he will escape into the underhive as some sort of crazed loon like the Rat King from TMNT .


The more I hear of what Necromunda will be packed with the more I'm afraid, and not in a good way. I've heard 5 models per gang in the box with the only "terrain" being cardstock tiles and it being more of a subterranean game, like sewer wars type. A far stretch from good old Necromunda where more people die falling off of buildings than due to gunshots.

Hopefully we get more spoilers soon and my fears can be way laid. But the game designer (who is here on dakkadakka Lagoon83 I believe) is the James hewlett that worked for mantic and GW and has done some great designs like Calth, and gore chosen. He has now left GW and started his own company. I think he is still bound by an NDA, so he's not giving up anything.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 06:22:54


Post by: inmygravenimage


Dude. That's a steal, Bat-Mite is already so rare that KM don't even have any left. Last time I checked they were going for $55+. Doesn't help that he's absolutely phenomenal in the DCU game (he's terrifying in BMG too, but is a Legend so can only be used in casual play).
Maybe you should find a foreigner who'll be willing to pay top dollah for it


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 06:28:21


Post by: cormadepanda


Nice buy. It is good to be back.

I like my models big, and bringing other models to the yard.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 19:41:03


Post by: Theophony


inmygravenimage wrote:Dude. That's a steal, Bat-Mite is already so rare that KM don't even have any left. Last time I checked they were going for $55+. Doesn't help that he's absolutely phenomenal in the DCU game (he's terrifying in BMG too, but is a Legend so can only be used in casual play).
Maybe you should find a foreigner who'll be willing to pay top dollah for it

I hope that's not the case as when I opened the pack he had no legs.....none. Miscast from the knees down. I guess he is a might midgitier than he should be. I emailed knight models to see about a replacement. I can send them pics if need be.

cormadepanda wrote:Nice buy. It is good to be back.

I like my models big, and bringing other models to the yard.

I like big piles of minis myself. Whoever dies with the most toys(painted or unpainted) wins right?

Well as stated I have a amputee version of Bat Mite, still powerful, just less area to paint .

Worked a bit on the Orc bloodbowl team. Pretty good progress, no pics, but I need something painted this month for the monthly painting challenge.

Also two more of the huge printer cartridges got replaced recently at church and I saved the ends off of them. For those that don't remember what they look like



I have three ones set aside without all the gubbins that I glued onto this one. I think I'll put them next to each other as a chemical storage tank bank.

Car still not fixed. Mechanic friend has been trying to heat pop the lugs off. Volvo used aluminum hubs and steel lugs, so no matter what the hub is getting damaged by heating the lugs up. He's ordering me a whole new hub in case is cuts the hub off. Three days of car rental so far and I'm wanting a new car instead of fixing older ones .

And I didn't win the $700million dollar powerball lottery, so no supply drop for everyone.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 19:45:29


Post by: dsteingass


THose are some useful bitz!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/24 20:17:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice little platform mate!
and the bunker entrance is promising too!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/25 03:03:50


Post by: cormadepanda


I was hoping for the supply drop.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/25 05:03:06


Post by: Theophony


dsteingass wrote:THose are some useful bitz!

Mantic does make some useful items occasionally.

Viktor von Domm wrote:nice little platform mate!
and the bunker entrance is promising too!

Thanks Vik, hopefully it gets playtime eventually.

cormadepanda wrote:I was hoping for the supply drop.

Yeah, if I hit it then Forgeworld would be busy .

Edit: I worked on the Crumpin Fists this morning some more. Just claws, teeth, checker patterns and bases to go on them.

I made sure that I did more checkered areas of the newer guys and made the spots different from their twins just so they look a tad unique. Hope I can finish them off tonight after work or tomorrow as I'm free this weekend.

Pretty sure next month I'm going to focus on my Asian themed army using the Warlordgames Test of Honour figs(formerly wargames factory samurai range ). I also have earned enough points (spent enough $$$) at the other local FLGS) to get $10 off, so I'm thinking of picking up the masked samurai set.
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/wlg762610002.html


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/26 17:23:06


Post by: Theophony


Just need basing.
Team

Went with split skull color of blue and white.

Blockers

Line orcs


Throwers, thinking of painting the fabric coming off the side either red to go with the blitzers, or checked, maybe one of each.

Catchers


Thanks for looking. Probably doing Agrellean earth pitch bases.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/26 20:00:55


Post by: dsteingass


Unnecessary Orciness


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/26 23:08:19


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
Unnecessary Orciness


I look at orcs as ne romundans made out of fungus. They try and survive against the odds with the (Imperium of) Man trying to keep them down. Never enough credits/teeth to get what they need and piles of junk all around them.

Besides I needed something for this month to show I painted .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/27 01:34:35


Post by: GrimDork


Solid work sir!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/27 16:21:56


Post by: Yorkright


Loving that checked pattern on the orcs, clean crisp work.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/27 18:30:08


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


Da Crumpin Fists look great, and Agrellan Earth will look great on the Blood Bowl pitch. Cracking (or Crumpin) progress.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/27 22:52:16


Post by: cormadepanda


The basing will be clutch, but they are coming along lovely. Favorite part is the checkers, they are well done.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/28 15:11:10


Post by: Theophony


GrimDork wrote:Solid work sir!


Thanks Grim
Yorkright wrote: Loving that checked pattern on the orcs, clean crisp work.

It was more daunting than hard, I never tried it before. I know it can be done better, but I think it's on the top of my painting skills.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Da Crumpin Fists look great, and Agrellan Earth will look great on the Blood Bowl pitch. Cracking (or Crumpin) progress.

Thanks LTMW, I have agrellan earth instead of agrellan badlands, but otherwise I'm doing the Orc pitch bases as seen on WHTV https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0fhFcIyBo

cormadepanda wrote:The basing will be clutch, but they are coming along lovely. Favorite part is the checkers, they are well done.

Thanks Cormadepanda, I like the checks added to them too.

Well basing started, but a second dollop of agrellan earth added to most of the bases as the center of each base has the annoying fill divet from manufacturing and it's showing through.

You can see the splouge on the centers of most of the models, some were covered good enough. All have had agrax earthshade applied to them as well. I'm going to do black base trims, though I might give red a shot on one as a test.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/28 16:11:58


Post by: jeff white


Just found this thread.
Subbed, and thanks for the inspiration.

You have three?
I want just one kid.
Just one good one.
For my wife.
Someone to take all these toys in due time.

Red base rims?
On a green Bloodbowl field would look awesome.
Check pattern is top notch.
Your workstation, wow - I am envious.
Very nice.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/28 17:49:20


Post by: Theophony


 jeff white wrote:
Just found this thread.
Subbed, and thanks for the inspiration.

You have three?
I want just one kid.
Just one good one.
For my wife.
Someone to take all these toys in due time.

Red base rims?
On a green Bloodbowl field would look awesome.
Check pattern is top notch.
Your workstation, wow - I am envious.
Very nice.

Thanks Jeff, and welcome to the thread of silliness and over collecting .

Yes three kids in two attempts, we didn't realize twins ran in my wife's family until after we were pregnant with child two(and three). Then we realized there were 6 sets of twins on my wife's side all skipped a generation and it was our turn . There are no perfect kids, so do the best you can and pray a LOT.

Red trim looks bad , so I went with rhinos hide instead, black was too....black.

Have a couple tiny grass bursts that are modeled onto the feet of the orcs which will get painted, but otherwise they are done. I might grab some army painter grass tufts and add them here and there, but only if I can find the desolate brown dead looking tufts. Orcs are not gardeners, and don't like competing for the natural resources.

Close up of the bases

I'm calling these guys done.

Next month:Test of Honour.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/28 18:20:00


Post by: oldravenman3025




Nice work on the Orks.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/28 22:20:01


Post by: Dr H


Good job on the orks, Theo;. Like the bases you have them on; effective.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/29 06:07:24


Post by: inmygravenimage


They are cracking. But I really want them to have a on their shoulder pads


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/29 06:36:03


Post by: cormadepanda


that is some of my favorite basing I have seen to date.

I mean the orks look great too, but wouldn't you want to stare at that dirt!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/29 06:41:11


Post by: JoshInJapan


The orcs look great. Their pads and uniforms look like they've seen some hard play, as one would expect for Blood Bowl. The basing is subtle and effective as well.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/29 08:06:41


Post by: Camkierhi


They are brilliant Theo, really fantastic, you have definitely come on in the painting, these are top notch bud, and the bases are inspired, perfect.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/29 09:31:17


Post by: evildrcheese


Excellent work on the Blood Bowl Orks.

EDC


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/30 20:31:19


Post by: Theophony


oldravenman3025 wrote:

Nice work on the Orks.

Thanks oldravenman

Dr H wrote:Good job on the orks, Theo;. Like the bases you have them on; effective.

Thanks Dr. H, they were quick and extra dirty.

inmygravenimage wrote:They are cracking. But I really want them to have a on their shoulder pads

Everyone wants to be an ultramarine .....or Batman

cormadepanda wrote:that is some of my favorite basing I have seen to date.

I mean the orks look great too, but wouldn't you want to stare at that dirt!

Thanks Cormadepanda, I never thought about staring at dirt does it grow?

JoshInJapan wrote:The orcs look great. Their pads and uniforms look like they've seen some hard play, as one would expect for Blood Bowl. The basing is subtle and effective as well.

Thanks Josh, they do like to mix it up a bit

Camkierhi wrote:They are brilliant Theo, really fantastic, you have definitely come on in the painting, these are top notch bud, and the bases are inspired, perfect.

I really enjoyed painting them...maybe too much, but I don't have many orcs left, I think I shipped them all off somewhere to a gaming group trying to get started up.
evildrcheese wrote:Excellent work on the Blood Bowl Orks.

EDC

Thanks EDC, I appreciate it

Well that's it for orcs for a while anyways. Now onto something completely different. Asian warriors who may or may not be of the respectable variety . Anyone following my blog for a while knows that I have a bit of a craze for samurai and Chinese food. I have amassed a bunch of figs over the decades and it's time to start building towards the past. Also September is right around the corner so I need a new months painting challenge for myself, and what sounds better than Samurai September .

I picked up the starter set for Test of Honour by Warlordgames.com a week or so ago and then used my points from the FLGS to pick up one of their expansions called Masked Men. While I have yet to read the rulebook for the game, I think a small skirmish game may be fun for the kids. Anyway, I built up the Masked Men set today as well as based a figure from Okko I think to work as a samurai. So if I complete these 12 this month, I will treat myself to painting the shadow emissary from Wyrd. All together the figs will be rolled into a Kings of War army, but for now it's just fun stuff to try and paint.

Here's where the masked men stand at this point.

The masked men are the yari ashigaru from warlordgames, formerly made by wargames factory, they have metal heads with samurai/demon masks(Mempo?) that they have taken off of samurai they have killed. Now these guys are actually monks who are lead by Masahiro, a maskless monk in the center of the photo.

Close up of some scenery bits(objectives maybe or just color for the table) that I made out of left over bits and bases. The samurai in this photo is a special deal I grabbed at miniaturemarket for a couple bucks. I think he came from the game Okko, bug I can't remember and don't feel like digging through the old thread .

The figures bases slip nicely into these three spot bases as in Test of Honour you can hire followers that come in groups. Bases are removeable from larger bases, but it's a neat little bit. I need trays for Kings of War like this, only larger.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/30 21:05:34


Post by: GrimDork


Looks like the start of something cool. I like the slot in multibase.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/30 22:57:51


Post by: JoshInJapan


Ooh, a neat new project. I have a ton of samurai models already, so I have never felt the need to pick up the WG plastics, so it will be extra fun to watch this project develop.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/31 03:41:48


Post by: Theophony


GrimDork wrote:Looks like the start of something cool. I like the slot in multibase.

I hope it turns out as cool as it is in my head. I like the bases also, makes me think of people who were making counts as obliterators for alpha legion who put 2-3 guys on one base. Oh the possibilities.

JoshInJapan wrote:Ooh, a neat new project. I have a ton of samurai models already, so I have never felt the need to pick up the WG plastics, so it will be extra fun to watch this project develop.

The models aren't bad, not nearly as good as perry or a dozen other makers, but price wise they are great.

Well here is the full Samurai September photo that I hope to accomplish. It includes the word miniatures Shadow Emissary which will be my special treat if I complete the rest.


Also super quick test figure.

I couldn't decide today which Clan from Legends of the Five Rings to use as my army base. So I flipped through some old cards and I think Lion Clan (my original clan) is what will be my mainstay army. Crab and Scorpion were also hard players, but the roar of the Lion Clan calls.


Alternate views.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/31 04:30:14


Post by: cormadepanda


Your collection of models never ceases to amaze me.

Dirt doesn't grow, but it piles up...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/31 12:06:10


Post by: Azazelx


The Blood Bowl Orcs look amazing, Theo. The checks and bases really take them to the next level. The Samurai project looks promising for next month as well.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/08/31 14:19:15


Post by: jeff white


You seem to work very very fast...
Very fast.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 17:28:39


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Your collection of models never ceases to amaze me.

Dirt doesn't grow, but it piles up...

It amazes me too every time I find something I forgot about or army I had an intention of building.

Azazelx wrote:The Blood Bowl Orcs look amazing, Theo. The checks and bases really take them to the next level. The Samurai project looks promising for next month as well.

Samurai are off to a good start, and I'm motivated to get some done.

jeff white wrote:You seem to work very very fast...
Very fast.

It's only because the quality suffers, my skills aren't great, but I force the speed.

I finished number two of the squad today.

He's in Dutch with the boss, so he has to carry everyone's lunch box.

Not sure what it's suppose to be, so box lunch for everyone because killing samurai is hard work.
"Dinner time boys, come and get it!"

Started base colors on the rest of the gang.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 17:45:28


Post by: Yorkright


These are very cool Theo, loving the bright colors.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 19:37:36


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote:
These are very cool Theo, loving the bright colors.

Yeah I wanted to do something different (yet still came up with yellow ), as most Asian themed armies I've seen are red or blue, and some of the boxed art is green.

Lion clan was chosen since it was the clan I swore fealty to in Ledgends of the five rings game initially ( then switched to scorpion when they became a playable clan). Crab was also a possibility, but decided the Emperor's army needed to be built. I'm going to try and toy around with greenstuff at some point on a figure to see if I cannot replicate the lion samurai manes that you see on some cards. Basically bushy head dresses.

Has anyone played Arena Rex? I know it was a Kickstarter that had BIG problems, but I saw pics of their lion and wonder how big it is scale wise. I'll do some searching, but if it's too big then I might get it for a temple of the lion clan statue.
https://arenarex.com/collections/non-aligned/products/leo


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 22:33:22


Post by: Azazelx


Nice work so far. The red (Oni?) masks pop nicely against the flatter ochre/yellow.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 22:39:34


Post by: youwashock


The Lion clan is looking good. I played a Ronin in a long-running RPG campaign and Spider for the CCG. Always nice to see reminders of Rokugan. That Blood Bowl team is really something, too. I like the basing choice.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/01 22:41:49


Post by: Camkierhi


Really liking them, something different, good work on them so far, one of these days I will sort out a Kings of War army, have the books, just need to sort an army or two, oh and fin someone to play would help I guess.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 07:55:15


Post by: cormadepanda


That is really neat. The difference is amazing compared to the usual stuff i see.

Lunch box man is the most important, even more so than the standard flag man.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 08:39:26


Post by: jeff white


Ummm, I dunno.
Quality seems fine for mass troops -
the masks are striking, the other main colors are neat,
the highlighting is effective .

But you do work fast.
You get the painting done, get the pictures done, and get them posted with replies to admirers,
every day.

Inspiring.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Theophony wrote:


jeff white wrote:You seem to work very very fast...
Very fast.

It's only because the quality suffers, my skills aren't great, but I force the speed.

.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 14:02:58


Post by: Theophony


Azazelx wrote:Nice work so far. The red (Oni?) masks pop nicely against the flatter ochre/yellow.

Thanks Azazelx, it is a good attention grabber and I can see these guys painting the masks that they take from dead samurai all red as a warning sign to other samurai.

youwashock wrote:The Lion clan is looking good. I played a Ronin in a long-running RPG campaign and Spider for the CCG. Always nice to see reminders of Rokugan. That Blood Bowl team is really something, too. I like the basing choice.

We only ever got to play L5R RPG - couple of times because we all wanted to play and not GM.

Camkierhi wrote:Really liking them, something different, good work on them so far, one of these days I will sort out a Kings of War army, have the books, just need to sort an army or two, oh and fin someone to play would help I guess.

Yeah my main opponent (brother in law) moved to Texas , and my work hours keep me from going to our copious game stores to get in a game. I enjoyed playing King of War though.

cormadepanda wrote:That is really neat. The difference is amazing compared to the usual stuff i see.

Lunch box man is the most important, even more so than the standard flag man.

It is a unique little item on the sprue and I haven't seen it used before, so I get to designate its use ...Lunchbox.

jeff white wrote:Ummm, I dunno.
Quality seems fine for mass troops -
the masks are striking, the other main colors are neat,
the highlighting is effective .

But you do work fast.
You get the painting done, get the pictures done, and get them posted with replies to admirers,
every day.

Inspiring.
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Thanks Jeff, like you said, they make fine line troops, characters will get more details.

A couple more quick paint ups. The set comes with 6 spears and 5 bodies , and since I made a few without the spears (cut them all down to the bo staff) the last three I stood up for a campsite. The other is a nice pic nic scene. The samurai had his retainer set up the lunchbox and his banner for a little break between taking heads.

I haven't decided on basing yet, so everything is staying primer white right now. Speaking of primers, I've had so many problems with primers that when I saw a video on Luke's affordable painting service about using primers. So I followed his advice on putting the spray can in warm water for a little while before using it. It worked fantastic with a can that has been clumping up on me.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 15:07:40


Post by: jeff white


Good advice on the primers.
Cold solvents don't work so well, chem 101.
Or was it 401?
Difficult to remember...
Still, I am surprised that with your volume of work, there is no airbrush?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 16:20:16


Post by: Theophony


 jeff white wrote:
Good advice on the primers.
Cold solvents don't work so well, chem 101.
Or was it 401?
Difficult to remember...
Still, I am surprised that with your volume of work, there is no airbrush?

Yeah, but our house is not an igloo, we keep it cool though so maybe too cool for it.
I'm learning the use for all these painting videos out there and Luke's are very helpful to me.
I do have an airbrush, but got too frustrated with it when I first got it. I should sit down and learn how to use it, I've watched a few videos, but I guess I should try to pull up some more.

Local FLGS has some of the Test of Honour sets on clearance (that's why the masked men were so cheap). So I might be grabbing some sets sooner rather than later.

Off to start grandmas move in full force now. She is moving into her permanent room at the assisted living place and getting her furniture from home.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 17:00:08


Post by: jeff white


Those kind to the old live longest.
Those who care for the infirm live best.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/02 22:18:47


Post by: cormadepanda


airbrush is steep learning curve, but rewarding. Great info about the primers. Cheers Theo.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 06:09:30


Post by: JoshInJapan


THe first two ashigaru are looking good. I like the understated colors-- very appropriate for low-lever retainers. FWIW, I think the guy with the big box is supposed to be an ammo carrier for arquebusiers.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 16:16:10


Post by: Theophony


jeff white wrote:Those kind to the old live longest.
Those who care for the infirm live best.

It's a good way to live

cormadepanda wrote:airbrush is steep learning curve, but rewarding. Great info about the primers. Cheers Theo.

Yeah, he has some great tips and techniques, it took me a while to get around the accent and the lingo, but really helpful.

JoshInJapan wrote:THe first two ashigaru are looking good. I like the understated colors-- very appropriate for low-lever retainers. FWIW, I think the guy with the big box is supposed to be an ammo carrier for arquebusiers.

well that might be, but it's on the sprue for ashigaru with spears and swords, no muskets or arquebusiers, so it MUST be a lunchbox. Really tempted to make a red and yellow mon on the circles at the sides of the box with golden Tori gates that look suspiciously like McDonalds arches.

So I spent a little time between last night and this morning painting up the first Samurai.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 16:43:34


Post by: dsteingass


Those are some great figures! Well done!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 19:15:27


Post by: Dr H


Good work on the fig's, Theo.

For the airbrush, it requires patience to start out.
It's very easy to assume an airbrush is a magic painting wand with what the internet with show you and the people of the internet will shout about it being "cheating".
It is neither.

The first thing to aim for is a smooth even coat. One colour, no shading.
Get used to handling the brush and learning how the way you hold it and the way you use it, affect the outcome.
The distance to the surface,
How far back you pull the trigger,
The pressure of the air,
The consistency of the paint,
The movement of your hand,
Etc.

Many things are similar to spraycans (distance to surface for example) so you already know more than you think.

Learn about how the variables affect the final result and how they interact with each other (close to surface = don't pull the trigger fully back...) before you try and paint a model with it.

Have a play with a flat surface where there's no pressure of messing up a model.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 19:46:16


Post by: Theophony


dsteingass wrote:Those are some great figures! Well done!

Thanks Dave , it's a good change from space marines and modern armor. But of course you'd think any change from painting space marines would be good .

Dr H wrote:Good work on the fig's, Theo.

For the airbrush, it requires patience to start out.
It's very easy to assume an airbrush is a magic painting wand with what the internet with show you and the people of the internet will shout about it being "cheating".
It is neither.

The first thing to aim for is a smooth even coat. One colour, no shading.
Get used to handling the brush and learning how the way you hold it and the way you use it, affect the outcome.
The distance to the surface,
How far back you pull the trigger,
The pressure of the air,
The consistency of the paint,
The movement of your hand,
Etc.

Many things are similar to spraycans (distance to surface for example) so you already know more than you think.

Learn about how the variables affect the final result and how they interact with each other (close to surface = don't pull the trigger fully back...) before you try and paint a model with it.

Have a play with a flat surface where there's no pressure of messing up a model.

I've played with it a few times, but just found myself not having the time to seriously learn anything from it. There's a few videos out there that have good tips on it, and I'll give them a go when I have time, but right now my painting sessions are in 30-40 minute chunks. Mostly when I get home from work about midnight until I take my shower and hit the sack I need wind down time. If our new cat isn't meowing for food or attention then it's painting time.

Just looking at videos on making my own agrax earth shade and agrellan earth have me pondering larger hobby chores. Also I need to decide what route I'm going to be going on for the bases of these figs. Any suggestions? I was thinking more green grasslands for the samurai.

Stopped by harbor freight on the way into work. Had a basket full of stuff to replenish the supplies, but then the cashier was slow as and the guy in front of me was stuck for over 10 minutes because their card readers were RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYY slow . So I put back my basket and left. Two managers watched me put it all back and asked me why, I pointed out the guy was still waiting and all their lines were now 7 deep, when I got in line that I was the only second person in any line out of the three cashiers. They still looked perplexed. Maybe it was because I actually put the stuff back instead of dropping it and making a scene.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 21:18:10


Post by: Llamahead


Possibly although I find it a bit odd but queuing is practically our national pastime.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/03 21:56:08


Post by: JoeRugby


the oni samurai guys are coming along nice

love the BB works


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/04 04:50:44


Post by: jeff white


 Theophony wrote:

Dr H wrote:Good work on the fig's, Theo.

For the airbrush, it requires patience to start out.
It's very easy to assume an airbrush is a magic painting wand with what the internet with show you and the people of the internet will shout about it being "cheating".
It is neither.

The first thing to aim for is a smooth even coat. One colour, no shading.
Get used to handling the brush and learning how the way you hold it and the way you use it, affect the outcome.
The distance to the surface,
How far back you pull the trigger,
The pressure of the air,
The consistency of the paint,
The movement of your hand,
Etc.

Many things are similar to spraycans (distance to surface for example) so you already know more than you think.

Learn about how the variables affect the final result and how they interact with each other (close to surface = don't pull the trigger fully back...) before you try and paint a model with it.

Have a play with a flat surface where there's no pressure of messing up a model.

I've played with it a few times, but just found myself not having the time to seriously learn anything from it. There's a few videos out there that have good tips on it, and I'll give them a go when I have time, but right now my painting sessions are in 30-40 minute chunks. Mostly when I get home from work about midnight until I take my shower and hit the sack I need wind down time. If our new cat isn't meowing for food or attention then it's painting time.

Just looking at videos on making my own agrax earth shade and agrellan earth have me pondering larger hobby chores. Also I need to decide what route I'm going to be going on for the bases of these figs. Any suggestions? I was thinking more green grasslands for the samurai.

Stopped by harbor freight on the way into work. Had a basket full of stuff to replenish the supplies, but then the cashier was slow as and the guy in front of me was stuck for over 10 minutes because their card readers were RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYY slow . So I put back my basket and left. Two managers watched me put it all back and asked me why, I pointed out the guy was still waiting and all their lines were now 7 deep, when I got in line that I was the only second person in any line out of the three cashiers. They still looked perplexed. Maybe it was because I actually put the stuff back instead of dropping it and making a scene.


Good advice on the airbrush - I have been learning exactly these lessons lately.
About 30-40 minute sessions, one good thing which is really a bad thing about this super-cheap airbrush (40bux, shipped, complete with compressor and cleaning kit, air dryer inline, the works!) is that directions say to use it not more than 30 minutes. I have gone to 45 or so, but am careful not to overdo it as it will purportedly overheat and die. 40bux ain't much, but no reason to kill the thing being an idiot, plus this gets me thinking - hey, you know, I can spend 30 minutes on that!
Otherwise, I will want to dedicate a day or an afternoon, and balk due to other obligations.

About the Harbor Freight thing, well, I figure that someone who is in a hurry would leave the basket sitting, at the register, maybe on the floor, and maybe give some indication of frustration cuz hey, we NEED that stuff so badly!
Maybe the managers felt confused that you didn't fit this stereotype?
I guess it is also assumed that people just wait, forever - Have you ever seen the movie Brazil?
Yeah, the world is a wacky place.
The less you go along, or in this case go nowhere waiting for tech when good old cash or better yet silver coins would be better, the more you stand out.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/04 06:09:38


Post by: Theophony


Llamahead wrote:Possibly although I find it a bit odd but queuing is practically our national pastime.

Well no one ever said you Brits had interesting hobbies .

JoeRugby wrote:the oni samurai guys are coming along nice

love the BB works

Thanks Joe, great to see you back at it again too.

jeff white wrote:
Spoiler:
 Theophony wrote:

Dr H wrote:Good work on the fig's, Theo.

For the airbrush, it requires patience to start out.
It's very easy to assume an airbrush is a magic painting wand with what the internet with show you and the people of the internet will shout about it being "cheating".
It is neither.

The first thing to aim for is a smooth even coat. One colour, no shading.
Get used to handling the brush and learning how the way you hold it and the way you use it, affect the outcome.
The distance to the surface,
How far back you pull the trigger,
The pressure of the air,
The consistency of the paint,
The movement of your hand,
Etc.

Many things are similar to spraycans (distance to surface for example) so you already know more than you think.

Learn about how the variables affect the final result and how they interact with each other (close to surface = don't pull the trigger fully back...) before you try and paint a model with it.

Have a play with a flat surface where there's no pressure of messing up a model.

I've played with it a few times, but just found myself not having the time to seriously learn anything from it. There's a few videos out there that have good tips on it, and I'll give them a go when I have time, but right now my painting sessions are in 30-40 minute chunks. Mostly when I get home from work about midnight until I take my shower and hit the sack I need wind down time. If our new cat isn't meowing for food or attention then it's painting time.

Just looking at videos on making my own agrax earth shade and agrellan earth have me pondering larger hobby chores. Also I need to decide what route I'm going to be going on for the bases of these figs. Any suggestions? I was thinking more green grasslands for the samurai.

Stopped by harbor freight on the way into work. Had a basket full of stuff to replenish the supplies, but then the cashier was slow as and the guy in front of me was stuck for over 10 minutes because their card readers were RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYY slow . So I put back my basket and left. Two managers watched me put it all back and asked me why, I pointed out the guy was still waiting and all their lines were now 7 deep, when I got in line that I was the only second person in any line out of the three cashiers. They still looked perplexed. Maybe it was because I actually put the stuff back instead of dropping it and making a scene.


Good advice on the airbrush - I have been learning exactly these lessons lately.
About 30-40 minute sessions, one good thing which is really a bad thing about this super-cheap airbrush (40bux, shipped, complete with compressor and cleaning kit, air dryer inline, the works!) is that directions say to use it not more than 30 minutes. I have gone to 45 or so, but am careful not to overdo it as it will purportedly overheat and die. 40bux ain't much, but no reason to kill the thing being an idiot, plus this gets me thinking - hey, you know, I can spend 30 minutes on that!
Otherwise, I will want to dedicate a day or an afternoon, and balk due to other obligations.

About the Harbor Freight thing, well, I figure that someone who is in a hurry would leave the basket sitting, at the register, maybe on the floor, and maybe give some indication of frustration cuz hey, we NEED that stuff so badly!
Maybe the managers felt confused that you didn't fit this stereotype?
I guess it is also assumed that people just wait, forever - Have you ever seen the movie Brazil?
Yeah, the world is a wacky place.
The less you go along, or in this case go nowhere waiting for tech when good old cash or better yet silver coins would be better, the more you stand out.

That cheap of a set up sounds like the one I should have bought, but no I went with the nicer version , glorified paperweight.

Another fast one tonight, just painted up Masahiro the monk.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/04 07:42:21


Post by: cormadepanda


I use the fancy brush setup and my kit runs for 9 hours before getting concerningly warm...

If you must know why 9 hours, I painted an entire army in 2 days. Two day sessions of brushing, 1 night session of air brushing.

Fantastic monks. I like the speed you do things. Plans for the basing?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 15:58:45


Post by: Theophony


 cormadepanda wrote:
I use the fancy brush setup and my kit runs for 9 hours before getting concerningly warm...

If you must know why 9 hours, I painted an entire army in 2 days. Two day sessions of brushing, 1 night session of air brushing.

Fantastic monks. I like the speed you do things. Plans for the basing?


Well no 9 hour or two day sessions, but 2 hours uninterrupted means I knocked out 8 more masked men.

Still figuring out basing, but I guess I need to decide quickly since I finished my September pledge .


Once I got into it I just went nuts, now I can treat myself to doing the Shadow Emissary. I just need to decide how I want to paint him. I want him to stand out against the Lion Clan Samurai. I'm thinking Air Dragon, Dragon of the Void or water Dragon.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 16:18:03


Post by: dsteingass


Airbrushing requires patience, and a religious, methodical, and repeated approach to cleaning.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 17:17:10


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
Airbrushing requires patience, and a religious, methodical, and repeated approach to cleaning.


Patience isn't one thing that I don't have time for...

So I just jumped into painting again and decided blue/air dragon was the way to go. So I'm going the same course I did with my BB orcs, just going much heavier on the highlights and might go one or two levels brighter, but right now this is where the dragon is at.


The purplish belly will be brought up to a grey p/white. I think it contrasts well with the rest of the figs so far.

Edit: just picked up the mounted samurai pack from the FLGS. (6) mounted samurai (1 metal character and 5 metal heads) for $16.06 with tax. Hopefully get time to assemble and prime them this week.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 20:11:46


Post by: Dr H


Yeah, setup and clean-up for airbrushing can take up more time than the painting does. It gets quicker with practice.
I find I have to build up a collection of models to paint with the AB and then work myself up to it before I start ABing. But I do have to swap my modeling / hairybrush board with my AB extraction hood each time.

Nice colour scheme for the dragon. I had the same for one of the dragons I drew on my lab coat at Uni'.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 20:40:35


Post by: inmygravenimage


Really digging the dragon. Love it.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/05 21:29:36


Post by: youwashock


Dragon is looking good.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/06 03:18:48


Post by: Yorkright


Very cool looking bunch, the dragons colors are looking great.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/06 13:41:07


Post by: jeff white


Yep, blue and grey is perfect for that dragon model.
Very much looks water dragon-esque from the sculpt.
Way to capture that, really looks natural.

About cleaning the airbrush, well, I haven't found that a problem.
I seem to be able to just use a paper towel to remove the excess paint from the cup, run some soapy water through the cup, dump it, run some more until is sprays clear, cap the front of the brush nozzle with my finger and then pulling the trigger ends up pushing the water backwards through the cup, and shove the towel into the nozzle and twist to clean that out well and then blow one more short dose of soapy water through the thing, then hang it up.
Cleaning is down to less than five minutes, now - maybe 3.
I let it hang from my little diy hanger with soapy water in the cup, and then when I start up next time I blow some of that through first before dumping it out and loading up with paint.
I have broken the thing down once or twice, cleaned it well the first time, and just wiped down the long needle and the other pieces with a wet towel the other time.
No problem at all, but then again I am not exactly painting for 9 hours straight, using different colors a billion times likely from different companies and so on.
I just load up one color, refill as needed, try not to let the cup run dry, and leave the thing wet until I use it again.
If it had to sit and dry, I would break it down and pack it away, but as I have been using it every couple or few days, I just let it hang full of soapy water. Seems to stay in good shape this way.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/06 19:04:13


Post by: Theophony


Dr H wrote:Yeah, setup and clean-up for airbrushing can take up more time than the painting does. It gets quicker with practice.
I find I have to build up a collection of models to paint with the AB and then work myself up to it before I start ABing. But I do have to swap my modeling / hairybrush board with my AB extraction hood each time.

Nice colour scheme for the dragon. I had the same for one of the dragons I drew on my lab coat at Uni'.


Lab coat with Dragon on it? Very intriguing. Also I think I'll stick to brushwork at least for the immediate future.

inmygravenimage wrote:Really digging the dragon. Love it.


Thanks Graven, I love the look of the model as well.

youwashock wrote:Dragon is looking good.


Thanks Youwashock

Yorkright wrote: Very cool looking bunch, the dragons colors are looking great.


Thanks, I hope I can bring the belly color down to what I'm hoping to achieve.

jeff white wrote:Yep, blue and grey is perfect for that dragon model.
Very much looks water dragon-esque from the sculpt.
Way to capture that, really looks natural.

About cleaning the airbrush, well, I haven't found that a problem.
I seem to be able to just use a paper towel to remove the excess paint from the cup, run some soapy water through the cup, dump it, run some more until is sprays clear, cap the front of the brush nozzle with my finger and then pulling the trigger ends up pushing the water backwards through the cup, and shove the towel into the nozzle and twist to clean that out well and then blow one more short dose of soapy water through the thing, then hang it up.
Cleaning is down to less than five minutes, now - maybe 3.
I let it hang from my little diy hanger with soapy water in the cup, and then when I start up next time I blow some of that through first before dumping it out and loading up with paint.
I have broken the thing down once or twice, cleaned it well the first time, and just wiped down the long needle and the other pieces with a wet towel the other time.
No problem at all, but then again I am not exactly painting for 9 hours straight, using different colors a billion times likely from different companies and so on.
I just load up one color, refill as needed, try not to let the cup run dry, and leave the thing wet until I use it again.
If it had to sit and dry, I would break it down and pack it away, but as I have been using it every couple or few days, I just let it hang full of soapy water. Seems to stay in good shape this way.


Dave warned me a lot about the cleaning, and I think I took it to heart, but I think I wasn't getting the paint thin enough, or had the pressure all wrong. I really just need a class as I'm a better visual learner.

Well Massive update.

My massive Darkness pledge just arrived.
I got the basic pledge and the cards for the Black Plague crossover, still, the box was over 16lbs (about 7.5Kilos) and is 38mm x38mm x 38.5mm
Close to 150 figs not counting terrain bits for $128 plus shipping. I'll post some pics of individuals later.

Must find the Oni in the box.

Found him , I think he fits in just fine.

Speaking of Asian things....

Samurai cavalry all assembled and primed.

Now to the unpackaging
Edit: more work on the dragon.




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No rest for the sick, couldn't sleep so I painted and I think have the dragon painted.
I decided to go with a darker grey on the scutes on his chest, talons and his antlers. I did kind of a reverse highlight on the talons starting light and then getting darker at the tips, thought I'd try it and it looks decent enough. I kept his mustache white as I see it more as smoke than actual body. I might touch up his back spines and fins later, but I'm pleased with them now.


I'm particularly pleased with his eyes.


Also some comparison shots with the massive darkness figs.

Spider and snakelady

That cliffbreaker cyclops is freaking huge.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 15:04:14


Post by: jeff white


You have the coolest workstation ever.
SO many models.
I would feel overborne.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 15:50:32


Post by: dsteingass


LOOKIN GOOD!

@theo and anyone who will listen:
Thin your paints and use

This will change your airbrush game. Use this, it's magical paint-better juice- it takes the tip-dry frustration out of the equation
Just a drop or two in the color cup before adding paint, water, thinner, whatever your mix is.
It's my best discovery of 2017- you can learn a lot from watching paint streamers on Twitch



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it REALLY REALLY does get easier with practice, it can be very, very frustrating at first, I know. paint more often, use less paint


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 16:35:55


Post by: jeff white


 dsteingass wrote:
LOOKIN GOOD!

@theo and anyone who will listen:
Thin your paints and use

This will change your airbrush game. Use this, it's magical paint-better juice- it takes the tip-dry frustration out of the equation
Just a drop or two in the color cup before adding paint, water, thinner, whatever your mix is.
It's my best discovery of 2017- you can learn a lot from watching paint streamers on Twitch



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it REALLY REALLY does get easier with practice, it can be very, very frustrating at first, I know. paint more often, use less paint


Vallejo, hmmm... I will search it up, but am relatively certain right off that this does not exist in South Korea.
At least, not in any way that may be accessible to me.
But, I will give it a shot.

Back in the day, I had some Liquitex flow medium, and I actually worked at a place called the Flood company for a short while, which makes industrial sized flow medium juices for different applications, but that sort of thing is pretty rare around here. Meaning, I have never seen it.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 16:53:49


Post by: dsteingass


Golden also has an equivalent product, but it's never around here. Hopefully you can find an online source there somewhere.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 17:52:42


Post by: Theophony


jeff white wrote:You have the coolest workstation ever.
SO many models.
I would feel overborne.

Thanks , I'm looking at doing some more workstation improvements in the future.

dsteingass wrote:LOOKIN GOOD!

@theo and anyone who will listen:
Thin your paints and use

This will change your airbrush game. Use this, it's magical paint-better juice- it takes the tip-dry frustration out of the equation
Just a drop or two in the color cup before adding paint, water, thinner, whatever your mix is.
It's my best discovery of 2017- you can learn a lot from watching paint streamers on Twitch



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it REALLY REALLY does get easier with practice, it can be very, very frustrating at first, I know. paint more often, use less paint


I'll look for some at hobby lobby next time I'm there, they have a small airbrush section and the 40% coupon is my hero

Well papa nurgle has given me a cold that has knocked me for a loop. I've been worn out with just enough energy to sit at the paint desk and fiddle around. After watching some vids online about quick easy terrain , I remembered I had bought some cheap brushes to try a rust effect, but the brushes were terrible 6 for $1-2, I wasn't expecting much), but the bristles have found a new use with a bit of hot glue.

All of these clumps were made from only half of 1 brush. I've made some more too since this pic, even tried it on a spare Warlord games base which is super thin.

Masked men hiding behind the scrubs

Dragon with scrub decoration

I just imagine this guy hiding but signaling his masked friends by shouting "Ka-Kaw!!! Ka-Kaw!!!" I'm sure there are inept Asian thieves after all.

Also tried painting the horses, but they are such poor design in my opinion and my mind wasn't in it that the base colors looked terrible, I'm going to have to try and rescue them later.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 19:32:00


Post by: dsteingass


Nice bushes. Happy little bushes.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 19:38:07


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
Nice bushes. Happy little bushes.

They are happier being bushes than they were being brushes , unused and unwanted .
I need to swing by Home Depot and buy one of the bundles of chip brushes that if I recall correctly were like 24 brushes for under $5. I see these as being used for fields of wheat. Also thinking of making a few hay bales.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 19:51:21


Post by: dsteingass


While you are there, look for the brushy doormats, you can cut them up for fields if you want to add vegetation




Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 22:39:52


Post by: JoshInJapan


That's a brilliant idea. I have some crappy brushes that could be used for this. Thanks for the inspiration.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/07 23:44:20


Post by: Theophony


dsteingass wrote:While you are there, look for the brushy doormats, you can cut them up for fields if you want to add vegetation



I even remember you posting similar pics to those before, thanks for reminding me.

JoshInJapan wrote:That's a brilliant idea. I have some crappy brushes that could be used for this. Thanks for the inspiration.

I'm sharing the stuff I learn, someone else posted Luke's video and I've watched hours of his vids now and seen more from other pod casters which have inspired me. It's back to what Dakkadakka is all about .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/08 01:05:56


Post by: JoshInJapan


That is, indeed, one of the reasons I spend so much time on Dakka-- new ideas never run out.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/08 02:41:32


Post by: Azazelx


Great stuff here, Theo. The Dragon in particular looks amazing. Where is that model from?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/08 04:21:42


Post by: cormadepanda


Theo, that supply drop made panda happy.

The dragon is excellent, definitely a good job. The color choice is great, blue dragon is awesome.

You get a lot of things done when I dont pay much attention...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/08 16:32:54


Post by: Red Harvest


The brush bushes turned out well. I've used toothbrush bristles to similar effect.

The airbrush:

Lesson One. Spray water on stuff -- old newspapers for example. Just water. Get used to using the thing without fear of clogs etc. This teaches muscle memory, and how the airbrush sounds, and so forth.

Lesson 2: Very thin paint. On paper or cardboard. Just to see how spray patterns form. Draw stuff. Write things . See what the airbrush does from different distances etc.

There is also a slow dri blending fluid medium from liquitex that may help, if the Vallejo is unavailable. You'll note that it has a slight ammonia smell to it. I wonder if the Vallejo does?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/08 19:29:31


Post by: Theophony


JoshInJapan wrote:That is, indeed, one of the reasons I spend so much time on Dakka-- new ideas never run out.

And when they run out we are old enough where we forgot some of the old ones, so they are new to us again


Azazelx wrote:Great stuff here, Theo. The Dragon in particular looks amazing. Where is that model from?

Thanks Azazelx, it's the Shadow Emissary for Malifaux/Wyrd, the big beastie for the Ten Thunders.

cormadepanda wrote:Theo, that supply drop made panda happy.

The dragon is excellent, definitely a good job. The color choice is great, blue dragon is awesome.

You get a lot of things done when I dont pay much attention...

Never turn your back on me , though I am a Lion Clan Samurai I have Scorpion clan blood in my veins and I will spill yours just to see what type of blood you have .

It was a good supply drop

Red Harvest wrote:The brush bushes turned out well. I've used toothbrush bristles to similar effect.

The airbrush:

Lesson One. Spray water on stuff -- old newspapers for example. Just water. Get used to using the thing without fear of clogs etc. This teaches muscle memory, and how the airbrush sounds, and so forth.

Lesson 2: Very thin paint. On paper or cardboard. Just to see how spray patterns form. Draw stuff. Write things . See what the airbrush does from different distances etc.

There is also a slow dri blending fluid medium from liquitex that may help, if the Vallejo is unavailable. You'll note that it has a slight ammonia smell to it. I wonder if the Vallejo does?

Tooth brush bristles would work too, but these are at least a natural color. I've watched a few videos, but I'm just not interested in messing with it currently. There's some great advantages, but right now the brush is my stress relief.

No update today, only a little painting of the mounted samurai, but just not enough time.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 02:37:39


Post by: dsteingass


The vallejo just has a very faint acrylic smell you have to get your nose right up to the bottle to detect.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 07:26:15


Post by: Llamahead


Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 08:15:54


Post by: jeff white


 dsteingass wrote:
The vallejo just has a very faint acrylic smell you have to get your nose right up to the bottle to detect.

Actually that stuff and ordering now.

Those brush bristle bushes are fantastic. If I am ever old enuff to forget that idea then I will be too old!
Gonna make some this winter as I have a table to set up too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 09:20:40


Post by: Camkierhi


Great stuff bud. Bristle bushes are cool, been doing that for a bit myself, look in dollar store, at the decorating brushes with natural bristles for mass production.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 15:42:37


Post by: GrimDork


Good stuff lately!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 16:36:05


Post by: Theophony


Llamahead wrote:Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.

yeah, now I'm trying to think off how to make stuff for a table of Japanese village. Daves carpet fields, a rice patty a Tori gate (always wanted to make one), and possibly a shrine. But those brush bushes will also fit in on the table.

jeff white wrote:
 dsteingass wrote:
The vallejo just has a very faint acrylic smell you have to get your nose right up to the bottle to detect.

Actually that stuff and ordering now.

Those brush bristle bushes are fantastic. If I am ever old enuff to forget that idea then I will be too old!
Gonna make some this winter as I have a table to set up too.

Trust me your age sneaks up on you and by the time you realize you might be slipping and forgetting things you have already forgotten that you have been forgetting things.

Sniffing painting chemicals has that affect on you, but as long as it's not too bad then it's okay....and you'll forget about it anyway.

Camkierhi wrote:Great stuff bud. Bristle bushes are cool, been doing that for a bit myself, look in dollar store, at the decorating brushes with natural bristles for mass production.

I stopped by the dollar store yesterday to look , but the chip brushes are cheaper at Home Depot and Walmart. Just one of those items that is mass sold through those chains. I just need to find some in a green color now.

GrimDork wrote:Good stuff lately!

Thanks Grim

Well not much progress today. Started repainting an Oni figure I had when I got home last night, but was too tired to mess around long. Got up this morning to work at church for a bit, then went to another church to help set up for a trivia night contest we are working at tonight. It's to benefit the children of one of my wife's friends from elementary and high school. Her friend Kenna and her husband had been separated and she and the kids were staying with her parents back in February of this year. Her husband snapped, went over to her parents house and shot her then killed himself, all right in front of their three kids (teenagers). Kenna was rushed to the hospital and had multiple surgeries but died from the wounds. The kids were obviously traumatized. My wife and other friends have arranged this trivia night at a local church. So far we have 34 tables (8+people at each table), 70 something donated silent auction items (including $400+ Cardinals baseball tickets for tomorrow nights game), soda and alcohol for everyone. My wife is MCing tonight and I'm one of the 2 judges. I'm planning on making a sign saying "Judges cannot be bribed....but can easily be liqoured up and convinced".

Local FLGS that I got the Test of Honour stuff from has finally become a warlord stockist. The stuff I got from them was misprinted on the shelf as I was trying to buy the other two boxes today I noticed they were back up to full price . Oh well I guess I'm waiting until the next 15% deal from warlord. They also have a few people at the shop getting interested in the game so they might wind up doing a night of Honour. This game is really vying for all my hobby funds, I'm even contemplating NOT getting Necromunda when it comes out. It's also making me rethink if I'm going to put money in on Zombicide green horde. The model count is greet for ZGH, but I don't have enough for both and to get all the exclusives would be more than my hobby funds allow. I might do the basic pledge and that's it, but there are some extras that I really want that are exclusives .

Edit: I call him Oni no Akodo


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/09 22:07:24


Post by: Dr H


 Theophony wrote:
...Lab coat with Dragon on it? Very intriguing....
I had one purple/blue dragon with a long tail wrapped around my left arm, body on the shoulder with one wing down the front and the head and other wing down my back.
Then a second dragon (red/orange) start with the tail in the middle at the bottom of the back of the lab coat and curl around the lower right and up onto the right pocket (with it clinging on to the fabric).
And then 2 styles of fire on the right sleeve; red fire at the wrist and black (tribal tattoo style) at the shoulder.

It came about because most of my year went out on a pub-crawl in their lab coats and returned with drunken writing all over them. I was busy that night (probably drinking elsewhere) and so my lab coat was plain white, and a bit boring in comparison. So I decided to decorate it.

I used that lab coat throughout my undergrad and postgrad degrees and for my post-doc. No one ever seemed to notice it (or at least mention it), I can assume I presented myself professionally enough for it to not matter.

Back to your models.
Nice work.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/10 03:21:58


Post by: Azazelx


 Theophony wrote:
Llamahead wrote:Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.

yeah, now I'm trying to think off how to make stuff for a table of Japanese village. Daves carpet fields, a rice patty a Tori gate (always wanted to make one), and possibly a shrine. But those brush bushes will also fit in on the table.


Here you go...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100Pcs-Plastic-Model-Bamboo-Trees-Green-Scale-1-200-/182329684765?hash=item2a73b2331d:g:izYAAOSwqu9VJ8Dx
I may even buy some myself...

Very good (and typical) of you to be doing something positive for such a horrible situation.

The Oni looks really nice so far.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/10 21:04:06


Post by: Wirecat


 Theophony wrote:
Llamahead wrote:Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.

yeah, now I'm trying to think off how to make stuff for a table of Japanese village. Daves carpet fields, a rice patty a Tori gate (always wanted to make one), and possibly a shrine. But those brush bushes will also fit in on the table.


Please do! That should look very colourful and fitting. Thank You all for the discussion!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 00:06:46


Post by: JoshInJapan


That oni looks great so far. I look forward to seeing the finished model.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 02:22:42


Post by: Theophony


Dr H wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
...Lab coat with Dragon on it? Very intriguing....
I had one purple/blue dragon with a long tail wrapped around my left arm, body on the shoulder with one wing down the front and the head and other wing down my back.
Then a second dragon (red/orange) start with the tail in the middle at the bottom of the back of the lab coat and curl around the lower right and up onto the right pocket (with it clinging on to the fabric).
And then 2 styles of fire on the right sleeve; red fire at the wrist and black (tribal tattoo style) at the shoulder.

It came about because most of my year went out on a pub-crawl in their lab coats and returned with drunken writing all over them. I was busy that night (probably drinking elsewhere) and so my lab coat was plain white, and a bit boring in comparison. So I decided to decorate it.

I used that lab coat throughout my undergrad and postgrad degrees and for my post-doc. No one ever seemed to notice it (or at least mention it), I can assume I presented myself professionally enough for it to not matter.

Back to your models.
Nice work.

who ever said people in lab coats were too serious . Plenty of the techs at the hospital would do things along these lines too.

Azazelx wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Llamahead wrote:Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.

yeah, now I'm trying to think off how to make stuff for a table of Japanese village. Daves carpet fields, a rice patty a Tori gate (always wanted to make one), and possibly a shrine. But those brush bushes will also fit in on the table.


Here you go...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100Pcs-Plastic-Model-Bamboo-Trees-Green-Scale-1-200-/182329684765?hash=item2a73b2331d:g:izYAAOSwqu9VJ8Dx
I may even buy some myself...

Very good (and typical) of you to be doing something positive for such a horrible situation.

The Oni looks really nice so far.

Thanks, it was a great event , don't have a total raised, but the 50/50 raffle brought $1100 for the family since the winner resonated his $550 winnings.

Those look a little small, but I followed the link and found all sorts of sizes, so I'll be adding those to the list.

Wirecat wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Llamahead wrote:Used the Brush bristle things on bases ages ago glad to be reminded of it for my jungle.

yeah, now I'm trying to think off how to make stuff for a table of Japanese village. Daves carpet fields, a rice patty a Tori gate (always wanted to make one), and possibly a shrine. But those brush bushes will also fit in on the table.


Please do! That should look very colourful and fitting. Thank You all for the discussion!

No problem, we all are learning from each other and hopefully inspiring others in the process.


JoshInJapan wrote:That oni looks great so far. I look forward to seeing the finished model.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll take some time to get more done on him.

Well, you find inspiration everywhere right? While getting the beer iced for the trivia night I was breaking apart four pack can beer carriers and the clips looked useful to me. I'm not a drinker ( I'll partake of a beer every few months, but not like when I was in my twenties), so I have missed the new beer carriers. These clip onto the top of regular aluminum cans so I think they will revolutionize the soda can storage tank builds.

Since I got caught up in cleanup I wound up with 17 of these buggers. But since we also don't do soda, I'll have to buy some cans too .

Edit: didn't feel like painting, so I just assembled 5 more ashigaru (3 muskets and 2 bowmen) and cut bases off of some board game pieces from an OOP game called Ninja for L5R .

Left to right; Samurai, drunken guard, Samurai house guard with yari, Ninja.

Also backed up in my rolling chair at the paint station and ran over the cats tail , I tried to move him first, but after I moved him his tail flicked back. Poor guy meowed bad, but everything is attached and it's moving fine. The purring from being pet is not happening and the death stare he gave me was unpleasant.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 08:12:35


Post by: Camkierhi


The beer can holder looks so useful, I immediately see gun emplacement platforms. Hard point for structures to stand on etc. Cool find. It is funny how somethings suddenly click.

Oh and make your own bamboo, it's easy.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 13:33:24


Post by: inmygravenimage


I've been thinking of using those with cans (minus beer - what Struggles!) As industrial vats . Also, my cat now just runs like hell when I start modelling ...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 13:47:55


Post by: jeff white


Yeah I avoided wheeled chairs for ages but caved. Hard to find a chair these days without wheels with support for hours at a desk. Duoback is what works for me. But my poor dog likes laying directly behind me for some reason and I am afraid that someday... Well. I am careful as I can be I guess. Fingers crossed.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/11 16:38:09


Post by: Theophony


Camkierhi wrote:The beer can holder looks so useful, I immediately see gun emplacement platforms. Hard point for structures to stand on etc. Cool find. It is funny how somethings suddenly click.

Oh and make your own bamboo, it's easy.

They are very useful looking bits, gun platforms could work as well. Also see supply drop below

inmygravenimage wrote:I've been thinking of using those with cans (minus beer - what Struggles!) As industrial vats . Also, my cat now just runs like hell when I start modelling ...

Mines not used to people moving faster than an 89 year old with two new hips and two new knees. He'll learn, but was back under my chair all morning long.

jeff white wrote:Yeah I avoided wheeled chairs for ages but caved. Hard to find a chair these days without wheels with support for hours at a desk. Duoback is what works for me. But my poor dog likes laying directly behind me for some reason and I am afraid that someday... Well. I am careful as I can be I guess. Fingers crossed.

Well I'm sure it's just like a stubbed toe, and they got to learn their space. I come down to my modeling area and find the cat in my seat quit often, so much so that the seat is stained white from cat litter toes .

Well, upon advice from Cam I decided to try looking up how to make bamboo instead of buying it. A couple YouTube vids later and I felt like trying it out. So doing the grocery run I went and bought more hot glue sticks and some more "soon to be bush" brushes and came home. I cut up some dowel rods I already had and hot glued them to some CDs. Added some PVA glue and flicked with sawdust and tiny pebbles. Applied rusty car primer spray and here we go.


I'll have two bamboo wooded areas for gaming, and the third CD has an arcane legions Han foo dog statue with a temple lantern and a rock outcrop.


That will act as a temple/shrine for the clan. The rock outcrop is a nice place to sit at/on to pray/meditate in the town.

Also swung by miniaturemarket and picked up my deal of the day from Saturday.

A huge dust tactic walker six shooter/bulldog for $8. I'm going to test out the six shooter guns on the back of my leviathans fists later. The tank might become a mobile command center.

Also at miniaturemarket they had this bag of clump foliage.

Which is what I'll use on my bamboo pieces.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/12 17:42:27


Post by: jeff white


awaiting the bamboo foliage.
thanks for the update.

dog is often in my chair too, which is when the wheels come in handy - as i wheel the chair over to his pillow atop the chest nearby, and he - with some coaxing - steps off and back into his allotted territory.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/12 17:57:16


Post by: Theophony


 jeff white wrote:
awaiting the bamboo foliage.
thanks for the update.

dog is often in my chair too, which is when the wheels come in handy - as i wheel the chair over to his pillow atop the chest nearby, and he - with some coaxing - steps off and back into his allotted territory.


We had a beagle years ago who passed away when our twins were three or four years old. She would perch herself like a bird on the top of "My" chair. The kids still call it her chair to this day.

Well I got one of the bamboo wood sections mostly done yesterday.

Different angle.

Not the best paint job, but half hours work usually doesn't make masterpieces. Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to work on some more of the painting of it (mainly the ground) and get the other one to a decent level as well. Right now it's serviceable


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/12 18:02:00


Post by: jeff white


How did you get the tops to branch out?
Hot glue?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/12 18:52:23


Post by: cormadepanda


Dude that deal of the week is sweet. Also interesting terrain features


Automatically Appended Next Post:
How did I not see the woods. Theo I hope you intend to add plants to the ground


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/12 19:25:40


Post by: Theophony


jeff white wrote:How did you get the tops to branch out?
Hot glue?


It's actually just the tufts of the clump foliage tac glued to the tops of the sticks. I also glued some to the sides of the dowel rods and they stayed where I left them.....good dog

cormadepanda wrote:Dude that deal of the week is sweet. Also interesting terrain features


Automatically Appended Next Post:
How did I not see the woods. Theo I hope you intend to add plants to the ground

The deal of the day is usually good when it's actual miniature game stuff, unfortunately it usually winds up being some card game or board game item that I don't need/want.

The ground will be getting more attention and possibly shrubbery to help it out some. It was real easy to make, just need time to make more and finish it up correctly.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/13 02:15:04


Post by: Yorkright


Having a hard time keeping up with all that is going on here Theo, you have been very prolific as of late! I am enjoying your Samurai army build they have all been top notch work, especially that dragon.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/13 18:41:41


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote:
Having a hard time keeping up with all that is going on here Theo, you have been very prolific as of late! I am enjoying your Samurai army build they have all been top notch work, especially that dragon.


Thanks Yorkright

Test of Honour build has been fun for me. I've decided NOT to back the green horde Kickstarter after all. They got my $1. The funds were going to go between it, Necromunda and Test of Honour. Now the funds are only going to Test of Honour......yes, Necromunda is being back burnered....at least for now. I want to be sure Necromunda isn't just another GW money grab, and if it is going to be continually stocked then I should have no problem getting it later. I might grab the book when it comes out, but I have enough Escher figs currently.

In the mean time I finished painting up this shrine CD.


Hopefully more later.

Cheers.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/13 20:32:08


Post by: youwashock


Really like the shrine. A nice, characterful little piece on its own, and a cool piece of scenery, too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/14 04:40:43


Post by: Theophony


 youwashock wrote:
Really like the shrine. A nice, characterful little piece on its own, and a cool piece of scenery, too.

Thanks Youwashock, I enjoyed building it, and I think it will fit the table nicely when I get to that point. The statue is one of the pieces from Arcane Legions a 20mm game system that never took off. Clearance at miniature market I grabbed a shed load of them and now finally get to use them for something.

Well today....stopped by the bane of my existence. Miniaturemarket. I saw that the set I was wanting for Test of Honour had come back in stock, so I had to pick it up. The metal character figure got primed as soon as I got home, and I just finished painting him up. I give you Chobei.

The story behind him makes him out to be like Robin Hood. A samurai of the people who fought other samurai and gave back to the poor and down trotted. He is stronger than the previously strongest samurai with a strength of 6 (gets to roll 6 dice when strength tests are done), and he ignore some wounds on him when testing. Plus he's a fat samurai wh doesn't wear his full armor suit.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/14 15:45:10


Post by: jeff white


Chobei - I see that face in the mirror when my shirt if off, as well.
None too happy with gravity.

By the way, do you have trouble with stuff flaking off those CDs?
The shrine looks great.

I bet that that is a fun game.
Given your schedule, when are you gonna play it?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/14 21:08:11


Post by: Dr H


Nice work on the CD terrain, Theo'.
Good job on Chobei, doesn't look like someone that'd take a "moob" joke well.

Jeff, Something I do when using CD's as bases is to cover them, top and bottom, wrapped around, with tissue / PVA. Once dry the CD is captive and works fine to lend stiffness to the base.
I've even joined bits of CD's together (butted up against each other) in one piece of tissue/PVA to make larger bases.
Had no problems with anything flaking, peeling or otherwise falling off.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/14 21:30:18


Post by: Ruglud


Impressive updates in here, I'm struggling to keep up with it all !!

I have that clump foliage as well, Woodland Scenics can be pricey, but it's great quality and a really extensive range (railway modellers are spoilt for choice)


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/14 22:37:48


Post by: JoshInJapan


I really like your Test of Honor stuff. That fat samurai reminds me of an old (90's) comic called Fat Ninja...

the CD-based terrain is a nifty idea which I will have to steal.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/15 15:34:19


Post by: Theophony


jeff white wrote:Chobei - I see that face in the mirror when my shirt if off, as well.
None too happy with gravity.

By the way, do you have trouble with stuff flaking off those CDs?
The shrine looks great.

I bet that that is a fun game.
Given your schedule, when are you gonna play it?

I'll probably never play it, though I've gotten my son into playing a few other games, so maybe....

As for the CDs, I haven't had any problems yet, but only been doing them 6 months or so, I guess we will see together. The primer I use is really good and the super glue has held well.

Dr H wrote:Nice work on the CD terrain, Theo'.
Good job on Chobei, doesn't look like someone that'd take a "moob" joke well.

Jeff, Something I do when using CD's as bases is to cover them, top and bottom, wrapped around, with tissue / PVA. Once dry the CD is captive and works fine to lend stiffness to the base.
I've even joined bits of CD's together (butted up against each other) in one piece of tissue/PVA to make larger bases.
Had no problems with anything flaking, peeling or otherwise falling off.

Yeah, when he's not Robbin the rich he is probably stopping at all the all you can eat sushi stands.

Ruglud wrote:Impressive updates in here, I'm struggling to keep up with it all !!

I have that clump foliage as well, Woodland Scenics can be pricey, but it's great quality and a really extensive range (railway modellers are spoilt for choice)

They don't deserve all the cool stuff , but I've been watching videos on how to make my own, and maybe one day....

JoshInJapan wrote:I really like your Test of Honor stuff. That fat samurai reminds me of an old (90's) comic called Fat Ninja...

the CD-based terrain is a nifty idea which I will have to steal.

Steal away, I saw it on a bolt action battle report and thought it was a good idea. We did one of the league contests years ago where everything had to fit on a CD. I made a terribad johnny on the spot.

Well not much right now, maybe more later, but browsing the web and vids I saw some CD fields similar to the pics dave showed earlier where they used door mats, but this guy just glued corrugated cardboard to a CD, wet it a bit with PVA glue to seal the cardboard, painted it to look like tilled soil and added some flock for growing plants. Thought I'd give it a go.

No just waiting for the glue to dry....

The guy made a few of them for Kensei (another samurai skirmish game), and then labeled each field with the Kanji symbol for the type of crop. I'm not going that far, but if this works out well we will have different plant types in different fields.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/16 02:20:29


Post by: GrimDork


Huh that looks like a solid start.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/16 05:16:32


Post by: Theophony


 GrimDork wrote:
Huh that looks like a solid start.

Thanks Grim, solid start and hopefully decent completion.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/16 05:54:34


Post by: GrimDork


Totally works.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/17 18:27:31


Post by: Theophony


Well just a quick stop by, off to work after watching my sons volleyball team having their first game of the year. They won 2 of the three matches . Best part is he seamed to have fun which he normally won't show. He is on a team called the Eagles so of course I started rooting from the side lines "Ka-Ka-Kawesome!" He was well and truly embarressed. His older sister started making hand gestures with wings flapping too , he is never going to live it down. The other parents joined in for some fun with it.

On a modeling note, I saw that warlord had sarissa-precision craft some wooden katana to use a sword rulers. Such an awesome idea that I looked for my Shogun board game Samurai swords from ages ago.

Sadly they are not the right size . The regular movement is 6", and mounted troops are 9" and cautious moves are 3". So the saris said-precision ones have a 6" blade and 3" handle for 9" total. These look better, but not practical. I want to use them somehow.
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Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/18 16:45:25


Post by: Theophony


Well I wasn't feeling crafty today. One of the sites I found from years ago showed a guy making feudal Japanese houses, so I'm imitating his builds with a bit of my own design to it.

"Git of my rice paddy you stinking kids"

I did not know that they used to put rocks on the roof because of wind. It keeps the roof slats from blowing away.

Insides of buildings are not used in Test of Honor, so I might just paint the door open, but black inside. I might also do a couple window frames the same way.

I also need to fill the walls up to the roof. Maybe using the brush tips like thatching. Any suggestions. The smaller building will just be a poorer persons house.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 02:36:18


Post by: cormadepanda


Make it out of paper. It is more legit like that.

No one likes it when the roof takes off.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 03:48:34


Post by: Camkierhi


You are really cranking out some great stuff Theo, going to be a very impressive board to play on.

Would suggest looking into coconut fibre mating or faux fur for the roof, check out this blog he has a couple pages now dedicated to the Japanese style...

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/474587.page

Lots to learn from this guy. Maniac_nmt

Honestly your terrain for this is brilliant bud, those buildings look awesome.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 03:51:40


Post by: Yorkright


Your terrain really looks the part Theo, are you going to show us a shot of it with the army once it is finished?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 07:34:27


Post by: shasolenzabi


Theo has been busy! dragons and beasts, terrain, and samurai and support troops oh my!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 18:43:28


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Make it out of paper. It is more legit like that.

No one likes it when the roof takes off.

Roofers love it when roofs take off . Means more money for them
You gave me a brilliant idea with paper, see below.

Camkierhi wrote:You are really cranking out some great stuff Theo, going to be a very impressive board to play on.

Would suggest looking into coconut fibre mating or faux fur for the roof, check out this blog he has a couple pages now dedicated to the Japanese style...

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/474587.page

Lots to learn from this guy. Maniac_nmt
I have seen his blog and have forgotten it too. Thanks for the reminder. I also found a blog where they used actual wash cloth cut into strips and then PVA'd to make roofing that I might give a try.
Honestly your terrain for this is brilliant bud, those buildings look awesome.


Yorkright wrote: Your terrain really looks the part Theo, are you going to show us a shot of it with the army once it is finished?

I'm afraid I've been painting only a few figs, mainly characters, but I will do a group shot in about a week to update the monthly painting contest.

shasolenzabi wrote:Theo has been busy! dragons and beasts, terrain, and samurai and support troops oh my!

Yeah I've been squeezing a few projects out, nothing to rival your Klingon force though.

Well, cormadepanda mentioned using paper and I remembered having some really heavy stock (110-140lb) paper that has a linen texture to it, so I decided to try that on the walls here. I also put the front door on this place too. After that I just washed the wood with agrax earthshade to get a nice tone.

I have to trim all the side boards roughly even.

And then paint the walls a soft sand color too.

Close up of the linen texture. What do you think of it?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/19 21:57:01


Post by: Dr H


Nice work on the little hut. Like the texture.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/20 06:09:46


Post by: inmygravenimage


Yeah, love the linen for walls, really cool.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/20 17:07:32


Post by: Theophony


Dr H wrote:Nice work on the little hut. Like the texture.

Well hopefully you'll like the littler hut too .

inmygravenimage wrote:Yeah, love the linen for walls, really cool.

I think at the scale it really helps with breaking up straight flat surfaces.

Well I finished a smaller poor mans shack to fit in with the larger hut.


Now just waiting on painting the little roof hold em down rocks.

Should I hit the walls with a wash? If so do I use the same agrax earthshade that I did on the wood or go different?



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 15:05:20


Post by: Theophony


More progress. Made a Torii gate yesterday.



It got its first coat of paint last night, along with the columns I got from Massive Darkness.


Also built the base for a third building in the village. It's larger and has an actual raised platform off the ground, so it must be someone special's home. Maybe a samurai . Also chopped some scrubber pads into the shape of the fence pieces from Test of Honour. They have been primed brown just now though instead of the multi green.

Also, what could these spare paint pots be sacrificed for? Wait and see I guess....

The hinges have been roughly cut too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 16:28:07


Post by: dsteingass


Fantastic Theo! LOVE the houses! That craft wood is fairly cheap! I bought a stash of it years ago for a 15mm Wild West game I never got around to. The CD shape would work well for a rice paddy, just hide the edge of the CD with an elevated lip of dirt and grasses the farmers walk on! That lip will work to hold in any sort of water effect or clear gloss you wanted to pour in after planting the rice stalks



Also earlier, you were talking about green bushes....this would be an easy way to utilize your airbrush spraying some green or yellow inks/washes to sort of dye the brown bristles. Really soak em, then let them dry, should have a nice translucent green glaze over the neutral brown/tans once it's dry. Just like wheat, or corn, or soybeans that we are used to seeing in the Midwest, rice gets brown when its time to harvest too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 18:24:07


Post by: Theophony


Thanks Dave , I tried to find the same craft sticks at Walmart yesterday, but of course they changed it again . Oh well I'll need to try some new stuff anyway. As for rice paddies, those will come soon, maybe not on a CD, but they will come and I'll mess with some water effects at the same time.

Well the paint pots were going to be the core of haystacks....they still might become those, but for right now I don't have any more spray adhesive, so they go to the box of shame(one of them )
I had undercoated them with GW XV-88 paint and then I need the spray adhesive to hold on tiny cut pieces of coco moss liner. I bought a 24" diameter coco liner from Home Depot for $4.88. It's just taking a long time to cut it all down to size. Some of the rougher sized pieces I rolled together to make some hay bales.

The upright ones are the beginning of haystacks without the pot. I need to still build them out further.

Took the idea from terrain tutor, but not using the air dry clay. That's what I was going to use the pots for.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 18:28:09


Post by: jeff white


Wow.
You are building a world of cd rice fields and houses with gates and columns for a game that you won't play?
Where do you keep all of this terrain?
Oh, right - you live in Missouri - big land there.
I miss that...
We live in the city here.
I would come home and the wife would have it all in a box at the door on Wednesday night with the recycling and a scowl.

BTW that haystack idea is great.
Those hay bails look great, too.
Great idea.

Seeing those pots brown, they look like the only idea that I could come up with - big pots for kimchi and I guess in Japan miso (?) (fermented soybean?).


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 18:41:40


Post by: Theophony


 jeff white wrote:
Wow.
You are building a world of cd rice fields and houses with gates and columns for a game that you won't play?
Where do you keep all of this terrain?
Oh, right - you live in Missouri - big land there.
I miss that...
We live in the city here.
I would come home and the wife would have it all in a box at the door on Wednesday night with the recycling and a scowl.

BTW that haystack idea is great.
Those hay bails look great, too.
Great idea.

Seeing those pots brown, they look like the only idea that I could come up with - big pots for kimchi and I guess in Japan miso (?) (fermented soybean?).

I'll play Test of Honour eventually. Even if it's just against myself. But it WILL be my first complete board of terrain (barring my 5 sets of Necromunda). As for space I pretty much have the entire basement to myself except when others are doing their laundry. I made a tv and WIi area for the kids and a area for my wife's sewing machine, but no one utilizes it.

I was actually wanting to make archery targets out of the coco moss, kind of like the hay bales I have their, but I'll have to slice them into thin patties. A project for another day as I'm about to leave for work.


P.S. No one wants to know but while I was making these the cat was under my chair engaging in chemical warfare. He tried to gas me out


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 18:59:49


Post by: cormadepanda


Cats are not friends.

The paper walls is actually super awesome. I would just use a sepia wash on then and be done.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 19:06:29


Post by: Yorkright


Have to say those rice paddies look very realistic. As for the cat with gas try a bulldog, their gas will send you out of the room.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/21 19:24:03


Post by: dsteingass


A little Rat Terrier will stink up the entire room after eating her favorite snack, cheese


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/22 02:03:28


Post by: Azazelx


Damn, Theo. You've become a terrain-making monster while I've been off. Love the CD-shrine and the CD fields and other CD-terrain. Chobei looks pretty sweet, too - and the scratch-built houses, and the hay bales, and the gate. and...

It's exhausting just looking at it all.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/22 18:14:56


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Cats are not friends.

The paper walls is actually super awesome. I would just use a sepia wash on then and be done.

Good idea, I'll hit the smaller one with it to see

Yorkright wrote: Have to say those rice paddies look very realistic. As for the cat with gas try a bulldog, their gas will send you out of the room.

No doubt in my mind about dogs as I've had those before(not a bulldog though), this was just.....nasty though.

dsteingass wrote:A little Rat Terrier will stink up the entire room after eating her favorite snack, cheese

I think the moral of the story is CHEESE. I'm not lactose intolerant, but cheese does have other effects on me besides making burgers taste good.

Azazelx wrote:Damn, Theo. You've become a terrain-making monster while I've been off. Love the CD-shrine and the CD fields and other CD-terrain. Chobei looks pretty sweet, too - and the scratch-built houses, and the hay bales, and the gate. and...

It's exhausting just looking at it all.

Don't look at my desk then. Plenty of other projects that haven't been shown and would boggle the mind to no end. It's why I'm the way I am .

Well as Jeff had pointed out eventually I'll need to play this game, so I'll need some adversaries since it's unlikely that I'll find someone with their own samurai just chilling and sippin sake. So I dug in the box of clan war doom and pulled out random crab clan berserker dude, who has become a dishonorable crane clan pansy . I figure the blues and whites will work nice against my lion clan yellows and browns. He can be a samurai or a sword master I guess.

I went with an aged looking hair coloring as he can be an old master or retired samurai.

Aged or not he still likes showing off his badonkadonk

And why would anyone show off the hip like this . Good thing he still has nice muscle tone or I'd drop him off at Walmart so he could fit in better.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/22 22:49:57


Post by: dsteingass


It could also double as an Arashikage Ninja Training Dojo if they ever do a 28mm GI Joe game


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/23 16:35:22


Post by: jeff white


Theo, targets for archers is a great idea, too.

Your painting is a high level for tabletop standard, btw.
Classy.
I would love to play with kit like that all around.
Very nice!

Oh, and, I am aiming for a table here if possible even this Fall, if I can get ahead of my deadlines.
Then, it will be gamesturbation time over here, as well!
Play with the best, play with yourself - my motto.
When closer to the facts is Play with the only one who can stand my lousy company!

We have dogs.
We have noticed a better quality of air once we switched their food to organic and grain free, plus we use only filtered water in their bowl same as we drink also...
And, their guts seem more pink and healthy, at least if the lack of evidence to the contrary is any reliable measure.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/23 22:02:05


Post by: inmygravenimage


Hey, Theo, your painting is going from strength to strength buddy. Great skin tones.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/24 01:11:23


Post by: JoshInJapan


Is that a Clan War model? I don't remember him. He looks great-- I get a Khan Noonien Singh vibe from him.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/24 14:18:23


Post by: Theophony


dsteingass wrote:It could also double as an Arashikage Ninja Training Dojo if they ever do a 28mm GI Joe game


jeff white wrote:Theo, targets for archers is a great idea, too.

Your painting is a high level for tabletop standard, btw.
Classy.
I would love to play with kit like that all around.
Very nice!

Oh, and, I am aiming for a table here if possible even this Fall, if I can get ahead of my deadlines.
Then, it will be gamesturbation time over here, as well!
Play with the best, play with yourself - my motto.
When closer to the facts is Play with the only one who can stand my lousy company!

We have dogs.
We have noticed a better quality of air once we switched their food to organic and grain free, plus we use only filtered water in their bowl same as we drink also...
And, their guts seem more pink and healthy, at least if the lack of evidence to the contrary is any reliable measure.

This cat is spoiled with his treats and lots of love.
A full table is something I never thought I'd do for a game, but I've always loved Samurai stuff, so this is really getting me excited.

inmygravenimage wrote:Hey, Theo, your painting is going from strength to strength buddy. Great skin tones.

Thanks Graven, taking tips from you and Damo as well as youtube

JoshInJapan wrote:Is that a Clan War model? I don't remember him. He looks great-- I get a Khan Noonien Singh vibe from him.

It is Hida Amaro the crab clan berserker figure. He is quite forgettable

Well I took about an hour and a bunch of glued fingers, but the skeleton of my watchtower is built.

It will have a commanding view of the battlefield, even though their is no in game use of buildings.
I'm modeling it based off the pic of this one from sarissa-precision.
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/test-of-honour/products/watchtower
Probably would have been cheaper and quicker buying and assembling it, but where's the joy in that


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/24 23:51:48


Post by: jeff white


I just reread... Badonkadonk.
Funny.

Watchtower in an hour.
Have you thought of setting up your camera and doing YouTube videos or putting the camera on a setting to take a pic every three seconds or ten seconds or so and doing a stop motion type thing?
Would be cool.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/25 13:31:20


Post by: Theophony


 jeff white wrote:
I just reread... Badonkadonk.
Funny.

Watchtower in an hour.
Have you thought of setting up your camera and doing YouTube videos or putting the camera on a setting to take a pic every three seconds or ten seconds or so and doing a stop motion type thing?
Would be cool.

I don't have a camera set up at all, all pics are from iPhone or iPad. My only computer is an ancient 15+ year old desktop that runs old games (Sid Meyers Alpha Centauri ). Plus I hate the sound of my voice, and trying to do a video clip or tutorial would slow me down and probably kill any enthusiasm I have.

But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Dakkadakka was being strange to me yesterday. After church it took me over 6 hours to get back on. No site maintenance screen or anything and it was showing Up when I check is it down or just me.

Anyway, I built a roof for the watchtower this morning and a prototype dock section.


Still need to make the ladder for the watchtower, and I have ideas to tweak the dock, but it will stay generally the same.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/25 14:40:57


Post by: Yorkright


Watchtower is coming along nicely. I had the same issues with Dakka yesterday.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/25 14:41:55


Post by: jeff white


Tower is looking BALLZ!
Will you do more of those paper walls on this thing?
Those walls were awesome.

I hear you about the sound of your voice.
I had to do videos for a few classes and I could not stand it.
Finally had to quit.
I tried everything I could to NOT have to speak in the mic.
I sounded as if the mic were in my nasal cavity, and - well - in my mind I sound like the Rock if he smoked like Ule Brenner.
Like gravel in a bucket of testosterone shaken over a coal fire and poured out on hot concrete.
Just hard...
But, not the case. At all.
I sound like an old bag in a sharp wind, all empty and hollow and weak.

Yeah.
So, I type a lot.

Oh, and by the way, I had the same experience with Dakka.
I figure my new ork pics broke the gallery and they had to fix it, probably took them a while too


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/25 19:37:06


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote: Watchtower is coming along nicely. I had the same issues with Dakka yesterday.

Thanks Yorkright , I guess it's really sad for us when our best creative outlet is out of action.

jeff white wrote:Tower is looking BALLZ!
Will you do more of those paper walls on this thing?
Those walls were awesome.

I here you about the sound of your voice.
I had to do videos for a few classes and I could not stand it.
Finally had to quit.
I tried everything I could to NOT have to speak in the mic.
I sounded as if the mic were in my nasal cavity, and - well - in my mind I sound like the Rock if he smoked like Ule Brenner.
Like gravel in a bucket of testosterone shaken over a coal fire and poured out on hot concrete.
Just hard...
But, not the case. At all.
I sound like an old bag in a sharp wind, all empty and hollow and weak.

Yeah.
So, I type a lot.

Oh, and by the way, I had the same experience with Dakka.
I figure my new ork pics broke the gallery and they had to fix it, probably took them a while too


My voice is not pretty because when I was 7 I had my tonsils taken out. The doctor had one too many during his mid surgery beverage fest and when he operated on me he up and did some damage in my mouth/throat. Obviously Dr bill was covered, but 35 years later I still have the annoying relapse from time to time when seasons change and my voice cracks like a pubescent teenage boy. My son thinks it's funny, but he's just hitting that age so we'll see what he thinks of the cracking voice.

Not much spare time in the future, we have to get grandmas house emptied and sold. Some major butthurt from my father-in-law also rearing its head as he was written out of the wills 15+ years ago, and now just realizing he's not getting anything out of the house. Not even tchotchkes . He is threatening legal action, guess he forgot that he punched out the lawyer 15 years ago when he was told he was written out .

Anyway most of my days/mornings off will be spent digging through and dumping tons of crap out of the house and then lots of 1:1 scale painting. Also have to replace a 60 year old retaining wall and move it back 4'. The wall is 6' tall on one end and tapers down to even on the other end and runs approximately 60' long. That's out of my league so we've gotten 4 bids, lowest was over $8,000 . But it has to be done before we can sell the house.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/26 00:51:59


Post by: shasolenzabi


Feudal era buildings looking good, and the minis too, good work!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/26 17:38:26


Post by: Red Harvest


Wow,you're in overdrive here. You have the fixings for a truly good looking tabletop. It'll be nice to see it all together.

I like the haystacks, for some odd reason...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/27 02:39:38


Post by: cormadepanda


Theo clearly you just need to make the watch tower 1:1 at gmas house for resale value.

Wonderful tower btw. Best of luck, and i do hope things work well for you.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/27 17:25:29


Post by: Llamahead


Good luck with Grandmas house. Always bitter sweet to do that.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/27 20:43:44


Post by: Theophony


shasolenzabi wrote:Feudal era buildings looking good, and the minis too, good work!

Thanks Shaso

Red Harvest wrote:Wow,you're in overdrive here. You have the fixings for a truly good looking tabletop. It'll be nice to see it all together.

I like the haystacks, for some odd reason...

, maybe I'll paint one red just for you.

cormadepanda wrote:Theo clearly you just need to make the watch tower 1:1 at gmas house for resale value.

Wonderful tower btw. Best of luck, and i do hope things work well for you.

The house wouldn't look right with a watchtower...but it would give us a great view of the Budweiser Clydesdales as their house backs up to the property Grants Farm (yes president U.S. Grant) and the farm where they keep the Budweiser Clydesdales who are seen in the commercials.

Llamahead wrote:Good luck with Grandmas house. Always bitter sweet to do that.

Thanks, need a bulldozer more than luck, but if you don't have the bulldozer we do appreciate the luck.

Well painted up two guys today for the lion clan.

Front two guys, others have already been done. The drunk guy sipping sake still needs a little detail work done on him, but the archer is done.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Wanted to have a bit of fun with painting today and I saw this guy in my box of samurai goodness. Might do some more tomorrow on him (his metals and gems)

Comes from Rum and Bones: Mazus dreadful curse....not to be confused with kungfu panda .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/28 19:47:40


Post by: Theophony


Well I got some painting done on the tower, pandaman doesn't like it and is about to F-troop the tower with his sword.

Also primed a ton of figs

These are different than the ones in the above picture. They are the clearance Alkemy figs I've bought over the years. Speaking of Alkemy they are running a Kickstarter to bring it back out as a blitz game. Lower points, smaller games faster play.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/29 00:19:26


Post by: Camkierhi


Well the tower is magnificent, wonderful piece bud, and da Panda is great, I need to get me one of those as my boy is mad for them. Figs are all looking good, looking forward to the Alkemy stuff, love the aesthetic of that lot.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/29 22:57:47


Post by: Red Harvest


+1 for the F-Troop reference. The tower looks nice and tall. Good. Maybe some upturned corners on the tower roof to give it a more far east Asian look?

A red haystack would work very well.

Pandas taste delicious. Smoke the panda meat over lump charcoal and bamboo... for the sauce, Hoisin sauce, soy sauce, sesame oil, rice vinegar, 5 spice powder, minced ginger and minced garlic.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/30 16:40:30


Post by: Dr H


Nice work on panda and tower.

...you have got ladders for the tower?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/30 16:43:53


Post by: Theophony


Camkierhi wrote:Well the tower is magnificent, wonderful piece bud, and da Panda is great, I need to get me one of those as my boy is mad for them. Figs are all looking good, looking forward to the Alkemy stuff, love the aesthetic of that lot.

I grabbed the Mazu's Curse expansion for rum and bones mainly for THAT fig, but also because I got it off the damaged rack at MM. there are a few other neat figs in that set and at less than $1 a fig it was too good to pass up. I'll be using all of them eventually. The alkemy stuff is nice looking, but the prices for the game are too high to me. I'm not backing it, and the fact that English is a secondary language to them and the translations have been rough really don't point to a good future for the game.

Red Harvest wrote:+1 for the F-Troop reference. The tower looks nice and tall. Good. Maybe some upturned corners on the tower roof to give it a more far east Asian look?

A red haystack would work very well.

Pandas taste delicious. Smoke the panda meat over lump charcoal and bamboo... for the sauce, Hoisin sauce, soy sauce, sesame oil, rice vinegar, 5 spice powder, minced ginger and minced garlic.


Sacrilege, pandas are cute and adorable, they are not food .
The tower is meant to be more of an outpost set up hastily, so probably not too much ornamentation will ever adorn it. Plus if it's close to where they need to be watching it's probably going to be kindling soon So no point in making it much more than serviceable. Though I might add some sashimino to it or have them on it so they can visually warn troops nearby of what's happening.

F-Troop was one of my favorite shows as a child

Well, entire family will be headed to grandmas house in unison today to start shoveling. That is clearing out the basement and sorting the crap from the not-as-crappy "collectibles" I fear my kids will be doing the same to me one day.

But this morning I decided to try out something I saw on a YouTube clip. What do you do with 1" pvc pipe? Cut it into 2.5" pieces of course .

I had a stick of pipe about 6' long so I got 31 pieces out of it and since I didn't have pipe glue I just wasted half a bottle of superglue. Net result is a much more visible display of which dropper bottle paints I have

That's about a third of the dropper bottles I have. I'll need more pipe and pipe cement as that's cheaper than superglue. But for supplies on hand that I already had it's a cheap paint rack that's very effective. I think for $10-15 I'll be able to get all my dropper bottles set up this way. It'll get a piece of plastic on the back of it, and I could mount it and wall hang it next to my paint desk to give me more countertop space.

It's also given me an idea for some Christmas craft gifts.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/30 18:39:09


Post by: OneManNoodles


That paint rack is a really cool idea Theo,

The watchtower looks fantastic.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/30 22:06:11


Post by: Theophony


 OneManNoodles wrote:
That paint rack is a really cool idea Theo,

The watchtower looks fantastic.


Thanks Llama
Idea came from this video


They use other pipes for other paint brands as well.

I also had some 3/4" pvc pipe which only the dropper bottle cap fits into, I thought about using that, but the bottle itself was too unstable.

I have been geeking out with ideas on the PVC since I saw the video. Different sized caps could make great paint brush holders, larger pipe could be cut for spray cans of primer .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/09/30 23:52:36


Post by: jeff white


That pant rack is awesome!
Now, you just need to build one six feet tall and sixty feet long.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/01 07:26:56


Post by: Azazelx


Great Rack, Theo!

um, err. for paint, of course.

I find tiered spice racks are also really useful for paint storage (especially the ones with the compartment lips) and even useful for painted model display. Looks like you already have some of that going.

Also, acrylic nail polish racks for wall mounting.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/01 18:59:44


Post by: Theophony


jeff white wrote:That pant rack is awesome!
Now, you just need to build one six feet tall and sixty feet long.


I don5 5hink it woul$ do well holding back the rain

Azazelx wrote:Great Rack, Theo!

um, err. for paint, of course.

I find tiered spice racks are also really useful for paint storage (especially the ones with the compartment lips) and even useful for painted model display. Looks like you already have some of that going.

Also, acrylic nail polish racks for wall mounting.

Ive been using the tiered spice racks since Dsteingass pointed them out from Walmart, but the dropper bottles have always been a problem to me because it’s hard to see the color of the paint when you get three deep on the spice racks. This is also much narrower and more vertical which means more tabletop surface to use .

Dakkadakka has been giving me trouble the last 24 hrs again. Haven’t been able to post or even view the site.

Well Samurai September is done.

18 miniatures plus plenty of terrain and a paint rack. I call it successful.

Now what to call October and still stay in the feudal Japan theme? Onitober? Help me out here all you silly anime watching gaijin dogs .

Oh yes....and let it begin with.
This is my Rock.


Edit: also made a ice piece...just because I saw a video and had extra glue stick next to me and I was having a mental block.

Took one glue stick and cut it into three unequal parts. Used a knife to trim the sides roughly. Glued it to a base. Washed it with a blue wash. Added white stones and white sand. The crystals are translucent .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/02 08:07:54


Post by: Azazelx


I don't think you're going to get better than Onitober/Oni October. But you missed a chance to ask if we could smell what that Rock is cooking.

Isn't that glue stick terrain piece sticky/soft? Looks great, but sounds scary!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/02 10:20:06


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ice: Ooh, that's an interesting trick for Mr Freeze...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/02 16:13:02


Post by: Theophony


Azazelx wrote:I don't think you're going to get better than Onitober/Oni October. But you missed a chance to ask if we could smell what that Rock is cooking.

Isn't that glue stick terrain piece sticky/soft? Looks great, but sounds scary!

It’s not sticky, though shaped like a stick (sorry), but it is flexible, which isn’t really a bad thing. Just need to make sure you use one of the “clear” glue sticks.

You and your wrestling stuff . Mr. Socko would like a word with you

inmygravenimage wrote:Ice: Ooh, that's an interesting trick for Mr Freeze...

Yeah, almost makes me want to build a frostgrave table and I haven’t even looked into that game .

Well I took two hours, including drive time, and decided to expand the paint rack. I bought 2 more 10’ long 1” pvc pipes and broke out the miter saw again.

I couldn’t find my clamps or anything to build a block so I grabbed some other clamps and an old anime vhs tape that was in the garage and used it. Lots of chopping and some cursing when a couple pieces went flying and I had it all cut in about 30 minutes.

Whole lot of cleanup later and 8 starters gluing...still outside as I bought clear pvc cement which has a high odor and irritant level. I used a scrap piece of plywood for a straight edge to keep one side steady. When I had it all glued together the scra0 piece happened to be just the right width to match the height I built the rack to , so I trimmed it down as a backer panel. Since I’m still missing 8 pieces to make it fully rectangular and hold 124 paints (not planned), it currently will hold only 116, which should be more than enough for right now. It’s sitting outside to air out currently, I’ll get the desk ready for installing it later.

Total spent today on this rack $12.88, and 8 have most of the 8oz bottle of glue left still. Even if counting the superglue and half a stick of pipe I already had this is less than $20 for this rack.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/02 21:41:16


Post by: Meer_Cat


Great tip on the paint rack, Theo- I need something like that too so I can see what I've got when I need it. And loving how the village and figures are coming- lots for me to learn!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/04 18:26:37


Post by: jeff white


i need one.
of those racks.
for paint.
ummm.
paint.
right.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/05 17:57:15


Post by: Theophony


Meer_Cat wrote:Great tip on the paint rack, Theo- I need something like that too so I can see what I've got when I need it. And loving how the village and figures are coming- lots for me to learn!

It really is a helpful paint rack. I have all my dropper bottles loaded up now, which is only 78 out of the 116 spaces, so I have plenty of room to grow. The only thing that it doesn’t work for are my army painter tones (washes) as they all look the same brown black), so I’ll figure something out with them later.

jeff white wrote:i need one.
of those racks.
for paint.
ummm.
paint.
right.

what else would it be useful for? I’m sure I could find a use, but it feels like you have a cunning idea too.

Anyway, I’ve been really busy with work at church, we have 100 guests this weekend for a bible quiz event, 6 other churches from the Midwest are showing up so I had to do lots of extra cleaning, which means less time to myself. BUT, it usually means I still make something....I’m just ....hedging my bet (putting on


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/05 17:57:30


Post by: youwashock


I love that you have included the Mazu bear. Such a great model.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/05 18:25:58


Post by: Meer_Cat


I was thinking about how to tell the difference between similar shades of color when looking at them from the bottom of the bottle/dropper (I have many shades of greens and browns- some of them very close in color- for camo patterns) and was wondering if I couldn't just put an abbreviated label on the bottom with a Sharpie?



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/06 06:58:08


Post by: cormadepanda


 Theophony wrote:

jeff white wrote:i need one.
of those racks.
for paint.
ummm.
paint.
right.

what else would it be useful for? I’m sure I could find a use, but it feels like you have a cunning idea too.


For the greatest game of inquisitor whack-a-mole. Fill it with acolytes and a couple cultists. It always ends in exterminatus. (lovely rack tho )


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/10 17:52:18


Post by: Yorkright


Samurais and Panda look ace, and is it bad if I say I like your rack?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/10 18:30:23


Post by: Theophony


youwashock wrote:I love that you have included the Mazu bear. Such a great model.

He is a really fun little piece and nicely sculpted too.

Meer_Cat wrote:I was thinking about how to tell the difference between similar shades of color when looking at them from the bottom of the bottle/dropper (I have many shades of greens and browns- some of them very close in color- for camo patterns) and was wondering if I couldn't just put an abbreviated label on the bottom with a Sharpie?


Sharpie is a great idea for labeling the bottoms.

cormadepanda wrote:
 Theophony wrote:

jeff white wrote:i need one.
of those racks.
for paint.
ummm.
paint.
right.

what else would it be useful for? I’m sure I could find a use, but it feels like you have a cunning idea too.


For the greatest game of inquisitor whack-a-mole. Fill it with acolytes and a couple cultists. It always ends in exterminatus. (lovely rack tho )

that sounds awesome. Need a little thunderhammer and some pop up demon heads now.

Yorkright wrote: Samurais and Panda look ace, and is it bad if I say I like your rack?

only if you don’t leave a twenty on the nightstand

Sorry, been under the weather and just worn out, also hobby mojo is in limbo right now. I know a few of the factors that I can work on to get back into the swing, but like always some are out of my hands.

I’ve been struggling with deciding on buying the Green Horde Kickstarter for a while, today is the make or break deadline. There’s a few of the models I really want, but most are just meh. But I also know if I don’t buy it now then I won’t get the exclusives that I want, but hobby funds are rare and getting rarer every day around here.i haven’t played but one or two games of Black Plague and massive darkness is just sitting there . I should skip it to have funds for other gaming things, but it’s one of those heart wrenching decisions....

So no progress.....but talking with the family I may be building a few things for around the house which could alleviate my creative blockage. The two biggest ideas are a cat tower/ tree and my son and I building a Christmas train table layout (which might also function as a gaming table).


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/11 04:06:45


Post by: Red Harvest


You're supposed to leave the 20 on the mattress...

Midwesterners...geez!

I'd consider printing labels on sticky paper and using that instead of a sharpie. Dangerous way to set up the block on the miter saw. You never want a short piece to be wedged between the blade and something. Be careful Theo.

Ice block is cool idea. I may borrow it for use with my December Crew in Malifaux.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/12 00:54:47


Post by: Azazelx


That rack looks pretty good. When you move locally to me (alone with everyone else I like from this forum) I'll get you to make me one. Hope you're feeling better and more up for doing stuff soon, but like most of life, it's an ebb and flow thing. The train-wargame table sounds like a good plan, though!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/12 17:35:58


Post by: Theophony


Red Harvest wrote:You're supposed to leave the 20 on the mattress...

Midwesterners...geez!

I'd consider printing labels on sticky paper and using that instead of a sharpie. Dangerous way to set up the block on the miter saw. You never want a short piece to be wedged between the blade and something. Be careful Theo.

Ice block is cool idea. I may borrow it for use with my December Crew in Malifaux.

Danger-Stupid is my middle name , in the video I watched about the crystal he suggested using nail polish, but I found that the blue wash worked just fine and I already had that laying about.

Azazelx wrote:That rack looks pretty good. When you move locally to me (alone with everyone else I like from this forum) I'll get you to make me one. Hope you're feeling better and more up for doing stuff soon, but like most of life, it's an ebb and flow thing. The train-wargame table sounds like a good plan, though!

I want to do stuff, but my schedule is so hectic right now, my list of things to do and places to be today alone is 8 different stops all over Saint Louis. Between car inspections (passed and then the check engine light popped on 3 miles later ), working at church, picking the twins up from school for an orthodontist appointment, Zack’s volleyball, Lilly’s cheer practice, Sarah’s school conferences, and general errands it’s not really a day off that I planned it to be.

But I did stop between stops and bought a new 4’x8’ 3/4MDF sheet of plywood to begin table construction. That’s right, instead of Onitober I am changing this month to octable. The month of table building . The MDF has been cut down to a 3’x3’ board for my feudal Japan board. I plan on it sitting on top of a 34”x34” folding card table and the test of honour boards are just 3’x3’. The rest of the board got cut down into a 3’x5’ board for a Christmas train table my son and I will build together before Christmas. We have a HO scale train set that’s been beaten up over the years that he sets ever Christmas, but this year we are doing it right .....or at least better. The rest of the board I saw currently 1’ wide and I need two sections (3+5’) long. Also while at Home Depot I bought a bucket and lid

You may notice the strainer on top, that’s because the bucket is full of sawdust.....which will become flocking. A 15’ square table is not getting store bought flock I’m not rich . So we will see if YouTube terrain guys are right that you can make your own for dirt cheap. I’ve started straining the sawdust and in five minutes I have a container of really fine (double strained it) sawdust and a smaller jar of coarse sawdust which was what didn’t make it through the strainer either of the two times.

I’ll give it a go tonight or tomorrow morning to see if this works out. I have to pick up some green craft paint first.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/13 15:37:21


Post by: Theophony


So anyway ....

Made some flock, it’s still drying and I’m using craftpaint I had sitting around, so not my choice of colors really.

Dark brown will help in forest and dead wooded areas, the blue green.....well I guess it’ll get mixed in with some darker greens eventually to give some tone value to the board.

Also could be done in any colors so making alien worlds could get useful.

About to take a trip to a train shop nearby, my kids are off school today because of conferences, so we can go and look for some more HO scale track to build the board up. One of his good friends works there part time and gets paid in store credit/models, I’m hoping this might get Zack into the hobby or both into wargaming.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/15 14:58:07


Post by: Theophony


$0.50 worth of English ivy craft paint(2oz) and a bunch of sawdust yields lots of flock.


Not much free time with sports and work, planning on crashing for an hour or two after church, I need some sleep. Might work on the train layout plan of the cat house though.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/15 20:03:26


Post by: cormadepanda


Wow way cool making your own flock


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/15 21:08:16


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


Much more suitable paint choice there, are you enjoying the process of making your own flock? Am eagerly awaiting the first images of the Octable.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/16 18:56:01


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Wow way cool making your own flock

Not nearly as hard as it may seem. Not perfect, but easily tabletop quality in my book.

Strain sawdust to get fine powder.
Put sawdust in a Dixie cup.
Add a little cheap craft acrylic paint.
Stir with disposable spoon, stick finger until lumps have broken into powder. Add more paint or sawdust as needed to get coverage or promote less clumping.
Dump onto disposable plate.
Spread out flat so it can dry.
Flip over once after 2-3 hours(optional, and I also have a dehumidifier running in my basement, so might take longer).
Ready to use

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Much more suitable paint choice there, are you enjoying the process of making your own flock? Am eagerly awaiting the first images of the Octable.

Suitable for you silly humans you mean , not all worlds are covered in green growey things, some are purple, some orange.

No but seriously the colors were the ones I had on hand for a project, so I get it. The brown will make a nice mulch color though.

Had to get lightbulbs from Walmart for my daughter and I grabbed a couple more tubes of the English ivy (dark green) and two of the mossy green which look fantastic and match my shrubbery.


I think I have a winner.

Now the flock isn’t all uniform color wise. There’s some of the sawdust color as tiny flecks, but it looks good to me.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/16 19:17:55


Post by: Yorkright


Nice Flocking idea Theo. All jokes aside it a great way to use up stuff you would have thrown away.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/16 19:40:15


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote:
Nice Flocking idea Theo. All jokes aside it a great way to use up stuff you would have thrown away.

I am an avid recycler. Not too worried about the world as I’ll be long gone before anyone is buried in trash (Wall-E style), but just I hate that we waste so much.

The little paper green squarish thing is a clipping from a trail mat which I have a 4x6’ roll of set aside for this table for my son. The flocking will likely cover most of the table, but we will see budget wise if I just use it for terrain pieces that sit on top or the whole shebang.

Also I tried making white flock......things did not go well, but it does look like wheat that has been covered in snow . The train table is looking more and more like a summer table than winter.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/17 09:25:44


Post by: cormadepanda


 Theophony wrote:
Yorkright wrote:
Nice Flocking idea Theo. All jokes aside it a great way to use up stuff you would have thrown away.

I am an avid recycler. Not too worried about the world as I’ll be long gone before anyone is buried in trash (Wall-E style), but just I hate that we waste so much.

The little paper green squarish thing is a clipping from a trail mat which I have a 4x6’ roll of set aside for this table for my son. The flocking will likely cover most of the table, but we will see budget wise if I just use it for terrain pieces that sit on top or the whole shebang.

Also I tried making white flock......things did not go well, but it does look like wheat that has been covered in snow . The train table is looking more and more like a summer table than winter.


Only if it gets a river. Thanks for the details on the flock.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/17 11:03:44


Post by: Camkierhi


Great work bud, been working on my own flock for some time, various methods and materials work well. If you want to knock back that bright green add a little red, not too much, you will just go brown, can work on it even if it is dry, I just re-dyed a batch 3 different shades.made it lighter by adding in yellow and a little water to reactivate the colour in the flock.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/17 19:38:16


Post by: Theophony


Sorry, will respond more later, just a quick stop by. Went by the local FLGS (Game Nite) as I was way early for work, and saw a closed permanently sign on the door. . Nice guys in business for 11 years. Said it was out of their hands. They just had a tournament (magic I think) on Saturday and were busy when I drove by. No head notice as I stopped in last week.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/17 20:46:20


Post by: Azazelx


Always a shame to lose a good FLGS (or any business) - especially when it's run by nice people. Your flock looks great, and some colour variation is a good thing, even on "uniform" colours. Look at a perfectly manicured lawn and you'll still see some variation, even if it's caused by light and shadow.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/17 23:00:04


Post by: Theophony


So no sooner than I had posted here about them closing and exited out, I had an email.

Miniaturemarket is expanding its retail presence...since Game Nite opened in the exact location that miniaturemarket left 6 or so years ago I wonder if they didn’t buy Game Nite out. it makes sense in my mind anyway. I guess I’ll see soon enough.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/20 23:19:40


Post by: oldravenman3025


 Theophony wrote:
cormadepanda wrote:Wow way cool making your own flock

Not nearly as hard as it may seem. Not perfect, but easily tabletop quality in my book.

Strain sawdust to get fine powder.
Put sawdust in a Dixie cup.
Add a little cheap craft acrylic paint.
Stir with disposable spoon, stick finger until lumps have broken into powder. Add more paint or sawdust as needed to get coverage or promote less clumping.
Dump onto disposable plate.
Spread out flat so it can dry.
Flip over once after 2-3 hours(optional, and I also have a dehumidifier running in my basement, so might take longer).
Ready to use

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Much more suitable paint choice there, are you enjoying the process of making your own flock? Am eagerly awaiting the first images of the Octable.

Suitable for you silly humans you mean , not all worlds are covered in green growey things, some are purple, some orange.

No but seriously the colors were the ones I had on hand for a project, so I get it. The brown will make a nice mulch color though.

Had to get lightbulbs from Walmart for my daughter and I grabbed a couple more tubes of the English ivy (dark green) and two of the mossy green which look fantastic and match my shrubbery.


I think I have a winner.

Now the flock isn’t all uniform color wise. There’s some of the sawdust color as tiny flecks, but it looks good to me.





You have some outstanding ideas about using commonly available materials. I might have to steal some of your ideas down the road.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/22 19:03:49


Post by: Wirecat


It works! An excellent flocking material, Theophony. That sawdust is really good in grainyness and shape, never had such a success personally but now ill try it again. From the photo it looks as miniature woodchips or plastic scraps and not a real "dust".


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/23 12:06:04


Post by: Theophony


oldravenman3025 wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
cormadepanda wrote:Wow way cool making your own flock

Not nearly as hard as it may seem. Not perfect, but easily tabletop quality in my book.

Strain sawdust to get fine powder.
Put sawdust in a Dixie cup.
Add a little cheap craft acrylic paint.
Stir with disposable spoon, stick finger until lumps have broken into powder. Add more paint or sawdust as needed to get coverage or promote less clumping.
Dump onto disposable plate.
Spread out flat so it can dry.
Flip over once after 2-3 hours(optional, and I also have a dehumidifier running in my basement, so might take longer).
Ready to use

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Much more suitable paint choice there, are you enjoying the process of making your own flock? Am eagerly awaiting the first images of the Octable.

Suitable for you silly humans you mean , not all worlds are covered in green growey things, some are purple, some orange.

No but seriously the colors were the ones I had on hand for a project, so I get it. The brown will make a nice mulch color though.

Had to get lightbulbs from Walmart for my daughter and I grabbed a couple more tubes of the English ivy (dark green) and two of the mossy green which look fantastic and match my shrubbery.


I think I have a winner.

Now the flock isn’t all uniform color wise. There’s some of the sawdust color as tiny flecks, but it looks good to me.





You have some outstanding ideas about using commonly available materials. I might have to steal some of your ideas down the road.

They Aren’t mine, so steal away as I stole them previously. It is the way if Dakkadakka and modeling thieves around the globe.

Wirecat wrote:It works! An excellent flocking material, Theophony. That sawdust is really good in grainyness and shape, never had such a success personally but now ill try it again. From the photo it looks as miniature woodchips or plastic scraps and not a real "dust".


That’s before I restrained it, so still a little clumpy. I think if I had a blender or chopper I could use specifically for this it would make it even finer, but I think it looks good as is.

I’ve been so ho hum about everything modeling and gaming wise this month. The only thing I’ve accomplished is making flock and clearing a table to set up my sons train set. So I think this month is a wash and it will just be known as Flocktober from now on . No desire to mess with anything today either. I did get a router, a table it mounts to and some old fashioned pipe clamps from clearing out Poppy’s basement. No body else wanted them. There’s an old table saw (too big for my uses) which I think I’m going to pass on and a Drill press that may make it into my garage.



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I took a few minutes to base the watchtower with the mossy green flock I made.
p
I think the size I saw good, and the little bits that didn’t get colored work out great for contrast.

Looks like slightly longer unkept grass compared to the bought stuff which is really fine grade.

I guess it’s more of a long leaf mix of flock than the fine grade flocks. Still think it’ll do great.

Also the full watchtower pic shows how much I’ve made of two colors. The plastic containers are a good size and wound up not working for my wife so I saved them from the recycle bin .

Even figuring in the cost of the bucket and lid I’m under $8 for a ton of flock and I still have plenty of sawdust left to make lots more. Each 2 oz craft paint tube ($0.50) gives me four nine inch paper plates full of flock about quarter of an inch thick.

I’ve made a couple batches of an orange I had laying about and some more brown, this time I didn’t add as much paint into the sawdust so there’s more of the uncolored sawdust in the mix. I’ll post pics tomorrow with them, but while they were still dry they and the spring green colors were giving me a strong fall foliage feel. Might have to grab some pink and see about making some cherry blossoms.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/24 05:23:45


Post by: Azazelx


That looks great Theo, it's very effective, and moreso because of the colour variance.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/24 05:43:41


Post by: Camkierhi


Looking perfect to me. Really nice variation in colour.

If you want super fine, stick the dry stuff through a blender or old coffee grinder. Got to say I personally prefer your work over the bought. Got a better texture.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/24 07:11:36


Post by: JoshInJapan


Dang, Theo. Your recent scratch-builds have been inspirational to me. I have to ask, though: where is the big rock?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/24 07:20:26


Post by: cormadepanda


dont let hobby lulls own you. You own them. Buy them out! - that was the advice i got from the business ork.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 05:31:38


Post by: Theophony


Azazelx wrote:That looks great Theo, it's very effective, and moreso because of the colour variance.

Thanks Azazelx, that’s what I was thinking as well.

Camkierhi wrote:Looking perfect to me. Really nice variation in colour.

If you want super fine, stick the dry stuff through a blender or old coffee grinder. Got to say I personally prefer your work over the bought. Got a better texture.

Yeah, but don’t want to use the family blender, though we have a small food processor that never gets used .

JoshInJapan wrote:Dang, Theo. Your recent scratch-builds have been inspirational to me. I have to ask, though: where is the big rock?

The big rock isn’t sitting under my desk right now. It might get some attention since you reminded me of it.

cormadepanda wrote:dont let hobby lulls own you. You own them. Buy them out! - that was the advice i got from the business ork.


A business Ork? I know teeth are cash, so should I punch their teeth out and offer to give some back if they get in line?

Well more flock for Flocktober. This is the orange/autumn color flock.
.
Might mix in some brown to give nice variety, or keep it seperate and find some bright yellow to add to it later.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 06:23:11


Post by: cormadepanda


Man that pumpkin exploded on you. Looks like fun flock.

Yeah pretty you get the idea to orkonomics.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 12:10:09


Post by: dsteingass


Interesting technique! I'd like to see a small mix of your colors on a base or two.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 19:03:08


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Man that pumpkin exploded on you. Looks like fun flock.

Yeah pretty you get the idea to orkonomics.

Easy to learn, hard to master

dsteingass wrote:Interesting technique! I'd like to see a small mix of your colors on a base or two.


I’ll see what I can do later this evening.

In the mean time the hedgemaster strikes again.

Bored with cutting the rolled mats that samurai slash with their katana, Chobei has taken up creating topiary sculpting.

I think he might just have a future in this field.
I think I used the mossy green flock, but the two are just so close that I’m not sure . The single Christmas tree one might get some gel nail beads placed on it like an actual Christmas tree .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 19:14:58


Post by: youwashock


Those are cool. Any thoughts on doing some Edward Scissorhands style animals or shapes?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/25 19:16:30


Post by: Dr H


Good flocking effort, Theo.
Good topiary too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/26 17:27:11


Post by: Theophony


youwashock wrote:Those are cool. Any thoughts on doing some Edward Scissorhands style animals or shapes?

, I was digging through one of my junk drawers looking for some old plastic cocktail drink animal charms, the silly things they adorn the glass with, when you typed that reply. No luck, but I’m sure I’ll remember where they are eventually.

Dr H wrote:Good flocking effort, Theo.
Good topiary too.

Thanks Dr. H, I just need to start playing a contemporary game where I could use these as street decor or as part of a park display.


Sorry dave, I haven’t flocked any bases with these mixed yet, I did go out and grab some more of the moss green (which I didn’t realize was gloss finish or that’s it was almost twice the price a total $0.97 per 2 oz). I also grabbed some sunbeam yellow to also hit that color in with the fall foliage technique. So mixing commenced.

8 more trays of flock drying as I type. 6 more of the moss green and 2 of the sunbeam yellow.

Should blend nicely in with some browns or orange.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/26 19:00:04


Post by: Yorkright


Chobei has quite the eye for topiary, keep him around for help.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/26 21:09:28


Post by: oldravenman3025





The homemade fall colors are a nice idea. It's something different. I've rarely seen a standard autumn used as a base or terrain. I like it.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/27 05:38:08


Post by: Red Harvest


Topiarys are outstanding.

The green flock could use some yellow too it. And conveniently, you made some... Also a bit of very dark green. The contrast will add a nice sense of dpth to it.

How messy is this stuff to work with, compared to the store bought stuff. And does it adhere well to the bases?

I'm looking at it as a way to make foliage, like those topiarys, rather than as ground cover.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/27 05:58:33


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote: Chobei has quite the eye for topiary, keep him around for help.

I never argue with anyone carrying a sword, so he can keep trimming hedges all he wants .

oldravenman3025 wrote:


The homemade fall colors are a nice idea. It's something different. I've rarely seen a standard autumn used as a base or terrain. I like it.

I only ever see it on wood elf armies, so I think it’ll be a neat change of pace.

Red Harvest wrote:Topiarys are outstanding.

The green flock could use some yellow too it. And conveniently, you made some... Also a bit of very dark green. The contrast will add a nice sense of dpth to it.

How messy is this stuff to work with, compared to the store bought stuff. And does it adhere well to the bases?

I'm looking at it as a way to make foliage, like those topiarys, rather than as ground cover.

It’s just as messy to work with as the store bought stuff. The trick is making sure you add enough sawdust to your acrylic paint to absorb all the paint and not too much where the sawdust color is too prevalent. You need it to be a good dry mix before you set it to dry out of the paint will just clump it all up. So far it all sticks great. I used regular Elmer’s glue to bond this stuff to the topiary framework.

I should have grabbed a pink color for making cherry blossom trees .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/27 07:31:17


Post by: cormadepanda


Theo...

you got all natural on me with these flocks. Maybe some water in the mix can help you out?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/28 18:37:07


Post by: Theophony


 cormadepanda wrote:
Theo...

you got all natural on me with these flocks. Maybe some water in the mix can help you out?


Ive seen people do that and adding in dish soap also would work, but this is the purest/ most basic route. And Lord knows I’m pure .

Well $4-5 worth of green craft paint and sawdust (free) has given me 8.5 cups of flock for Chobei to tend to.

I saw a cheap coffee bean grinder at Aldi about an hour ago, I’m thinking of getting it to make ultra finegrass, but I think I’m good with what I have right now.

Comparing cost to woodland scenic I got about 4x the quantity for half the price.

Also just for color comparison

Fall colors...speaking of fall, Chobei better put down his donuts and katana and grab a rake.

Seeing this I definitely need some red leaves.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/28 19:41:05


Post by: Llamahead


Excellent looking stuff I did something similar with dying sponges for use as trees and larger foliage.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/29 01:06:08


Post by: cormadepanda


That is some really great flock. Well done Theo. And nice savings.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/29 01:17:10


Post by: jeff white


Flocktober is awesome.
Catching up here... You are a MACHINE Theo.
Seriously. Wow.

Can't believe that you are passing on that table saw, however.
Imagine how much flock-powder you can produce with a large table saw???
Seriously.
You NEED that flock-powder production equipment.
Start buying the moss green in gallons...
Flock the basement!
Flock the walls!
Flock the driveway and seal it with Thompson's and a weed sprayer.
The possibilities are endless.
But it all starts with serious flock powder production capacity...
Just imagine.

I also watched an excellent YouTube vid on making flock from sawdust.
Forgot the name of the guy but I was watching a ton of his vids for a while, a British cat, super cool dude really, lots of great vids.
Maybe we saw the same one?
Dude looks a bit like a pirate... What's his name?

Now that I see you in action, your results, and with me remodeling the verandas here these days, I will have to be saving my sawdust.
The wife will be soooo (un)happy to see that!
I save and reuse everything - she hates it.
But as long as I keep it in my room and off the floor, she lets me go for the most part.

By the way, would it work to make grey flocks for rocks, gravel, volcanic ash, and even for asphalt surfaces?
What do you think ...?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/29 02:44:01


Post by: Camkierhi


Luke APS. Is the guy you are thinking of. Will post link later. Is where I steal a lot of my ideas.

Flock can be any colour you want, and if you mix it in a pva paste and spread it on thick, you can get asphalt no worries.

Fantastic work Theo, I know how time consuming and the high levels of patients needed to make this lot. But it really is worth it. You have excellent results here.

I am messing about with metallic coppers for flock at the mo, really like what it comes out like.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/29 05:06:11


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Theo...

you got all natural on me with these flocks. Maybe some water in the mix can help you out?

They seem to be going just fine not diluted down at all, but might try it with a batch to see the difference.

Llamahead wrote:Excellent looking stuff I did something similar with dying sponges for use as trees and larger foliage.

The chair cushion clump foliage was going to possibly be my next endeavor

cormadepanda wrote:That is some really great flock. Well done Theo. And nice savings.

Saving money I don’t have . It does look good to me.

jeff white wrote:Flocktober is awesome.
Catching up here... You are a MACHINE Theo.
Seriously. Wow.

Can't believe that you are passing on that table saw, however.
Imagine how much flock-powder you can produce with a large table saw???
Seriously.
You NEED that flock-powder production equipment.
Start buying the moss green in gallons...
Flock the basement!
Flock the walls!
Flock the driveway and seal it with Thompson's and a weed sprayer.
The possibilities are endless.
But it all starts with serious flock powder production capacity...
Just imagine.

I also watched an excellent YouTube vid on making flock from sawdust.
Forgot the name of the guy but I was watching a ton of his vids for a while, a British cat, super cool dude really, lots of great vids.
Maybe we saw the same one?
Dude looks a bit like a pirate... What's his name?

Now that I see you in action, your results, and with me remodeling the verandas here these days, I will have to be saving my sawdust.
The wife will be soooo (un)happy to see that!
I save and reuse everything - she hates it.
But as long as I keep it in my room and off the floor, she lets me go for the most part.

By the way, would it work to make grey flocks for rocks, gravel, volcanic ash, and even for asphalt surfaces?
What do you think ...?

All colors work...except white, but maybe I just didn’t give it enough of a try. It’s going to depend on the size rocks your looking for though as the sawdust is so fine that it will look more like schat (grade of rock, not me trying to get around the word filter) than gravel or rock.

Camkierhi wrote:Luke APS. Is the guy you are thinking of. Will post link later. Is where I steal a lot of my ideas.

Flock can be any colour you want, and if you mix it in a pva paste and spread it on thick, you can get asphalt no worries.

Fantastic work Theo, I know how time consuming and the high levels of patients needed to make this lot. But it really is worth it. You have excellent results here.

I am messing about with metallic coppers for flock at the mo, really like what it comes out like.

Lukes APS is indeed where I’ve gotten quit a few ideas from lately. Once I got around the accent and gauge earlobes( a personal pet peeve of mine) I really enjoy his work.
[url]
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCsmD5774MOQhjYBkXqu3Jdw[/url]
Metallic coppers sound awesome .



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/10/29 05:56:28


Post by: Azazelx


Nice topiary and flock collection, Theo. Luke has some good ideas in those videos.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/10 16:33:48


Post by: Theophony


 Azazelx wrote:
Nice topiary and flock collection, Theo. Luke has some good ideas in those videos.

Thanks Azazelx , I do enjoy the videos and he has links on his site to other great resources which have helped.

So I’ve just been in a daze the past two weeks. Not really wanting anything to do with gaming, so no productivity besides making some dark red flock and pink cherry blossom style flock. No pics .

But today I have a little urge. Besides if my son sees something happening maybe it’ll get him more excited about the train table.
So my 3’ by 3’ Test of Honour table is about to get its flock on.

The cat is very vocal about how he is unimpressed.

Edit: painted the table really quick with the craft brown oxide paint (2 tubes used $1.00 total) then quickly spread flock over it using a sifter.

The rough spot was where I spilled some unsifted flock and then tried to pick up the chunks with my fingers and brushed it with my hand . Once this dries (probably tomorrow) I’ll spray the entire thing down with watered down Elmer’s school glue and let it dry. Might hit it with some isopropyl alcohol to spread it evenly. Hopefully the results will look good.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/11 00:53:20


Post by: Camkierhi


Looks great bud. Don't worry about the rough spot to much, grass is rarely dead flat and uniform.

Definitely recommend the iso bud, really helps.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/11 01:21:12


Post by: cormadepanda


That is one flocked table. Theo gluing yourself while fun is not the practical application of modeling. No matter how much you consider yourself a "model"


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/11 03:20:26


Post by: Yorkright


Table looks great Theo, grass never looks even, if you need proof I will send a picture of my lawn. When you are finished could we get a photo with all your great terrain on it along with your army?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/11 11:55:09


Post by: inmygravenimage


Flocking hell. That's impressive.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/15 18:05:37


Post by: Theophony


Sorry for a quick dump and run, more pics in my gallery for Test of Honour.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/19 05:35:11


Post by: Yorkright


Table is looking amazing, but can we get a few close up shots?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/20 15:04:54


Post by: Theophony


Well, with Necromunda not tickling me the way I like and it being an ongoing sales item(not a one and done), I decided to keep going with Test of Honour stuff instead.

I picked up a few sets today including
Ronin set(1 metal and 5 plastic samurai)
Bandits and Brigands (7 metal figs and additional rules)
Bandits and Brigands swordsmen booster (3metal figs)
Daimyos Retinue (1metal mounted samurai and 5 plastic mounted Samurai)

That brings me basically up to date with all the sets except the samurai Warband which is just more plastic samurai and duplicate cards in case you wanted to have a three way battle.

Sorry for absence, to much happening this month with birthdays, holidays and other stuff.

Great news is my incompetent boss has been transferred (otherwise fired) and moved back to the east coast .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/20 19:57:29


Post by: Red Harvest


Hey! We have too many incompetents bosses already here on the East Coast. Send 'em to California.

Seconding what Yorkright asked about a few close ups of the flock on the table

I'm wondering if your Test of Honor ( I refuse to spell it 'honour' ) stuff can also be used for the Bushido miniatures game too? In case you want to try it out as well. I've heard good things about it.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/20 20:40:41


Post by: Theophony


 Red Harvest wrote:
Hey! We have too many incompetents bosses already here on the East Coast. Send 'em to California.

Seconding what Yorkright asked about a few close ups of the flock on the table

I'm wondering if your Test of Honor ( I refuse to spell it 'honour' ) stuff can also be used for the Bushido miniatures game too? In case you want to try it out as well. I've heard good things about it.


I had to look it up again, but the bushido figs are bigger. The article says they aren’t, but their photo kind of blows it for them. I realize the stances are different.

Here’s a link.
https://gctstudios.com/forum/monkeys-blood-13

Some of their non humans will work nicely, but since miniaturemarket doesn’t carry it I guess I won’t know .


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/11/20 23:32:27


Post by: JoshInJapan


The table looks great so far. I don't remember-- have you tried the game yet?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2017/12/03 22:25:05


Post by: Dr H


Greenery seems to do the job.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/27 22:54:36


Post by: Theophony


I’m back

Sorry for the abrupt disappearance, too much on my plate, I needed a break.

Thanks too the guys in the miscellaneous miniature games section I have gotten hyped up again on Test of Honour, so I will be returning back to feudal Japan and Testing my Honour by completing many small challenges.

(Spoken in Monty Python Spanish Inquisition voice)
“Amongst these challenges are such diverse elements as....”

A Samurai Kings of War army



Two small sided Test of Honour basic samurai warbands (hopefully I can get enough free time to run demos)


And more terrain for the Test of Honour board

I will post some pics later today including ninjas that I finished this week, I just can never get pics of them without them attacking me .

Quick pics,

Crumby horses

Ninjas which I finished last night. Need more on the basing.

Some WIP samurai cavalry


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/27 23:41:33


Post by: Yorkright


Welcome back Theo, looks like your hiatus has not hurt your painting skills. Ninjas and ponies are looking sharp.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/28 00:00:35


Post by: JoshInJapan


Welcome back. It's always nice to see more samurai models.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/28 00:56:48


Post by: Red Harvest


Interesting base cozies for the ninjas.

Also, nice re-start.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/28 05:33:44


Post by: Camkierhi


Welcome home bud, truly wonderful to see you. Really missed you bud.

Fantastic restart too, loved your previous work in this area, and looks like you are bang on song for more. Love it.

Off to look at that box set, very interested. But also, I think I have mentioned this before, have you checked out Maniac_nmt, has a thread here...
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/474587.page

Wonderful stuff, especially lately with Feudal Japan stuff.

Damn glad to see you boy. Made my day seeing a Theophony post.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/29 00:28:32


Post by: Meer_Cat


All the pieces are very well done- the ninja are great: you've done a terrific job of using many shades to give an overall impression of 'detailed black'. The basing system for them is quite clever as well.

Well done and welcome back!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/29 06:25:52


Post by: inmygravenimage


Good to have ya back, brother.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/30 03:56:05


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote: Welcome back Theo, looks like your hiatus has not hurt your painting skills. Ninjas and ponies are looking sharp.

Thanks Yorkright , I may not have been posting, but I have gotten a little painting here and there in over the last few months.

JoshInJapan wrote:Welcome back. It's always nice to see more samurai models.

, I have been going through older threads with samurai for examples, and I will definitely be looking for any advice you have during this construction.

Red Harvest wrote:Interesting base cozies for the ninjas.

Also, nice re-start.

The base cozies on the Ninja are an integral part of the Test of Honour game. Samurai are bought individually, as are most other models, but retainers such as spearmen and archers can be bought in groups of three. If all three are alive then they get bonuses while performing actions. As they die then they lose bonuses. I like the design of the base and would love to make some like this for KOW.

Camkierhi wrote:Welcome home bud, truly wonderful to see you. Really missed you bud.

Fantastic restart too, loved your previous work in this area, and looks like you are bang on song for more. Love it.

Off to look at that box set, very interested. But also, I think I have mentioned this before, have you checked out Maniac_nmt, has a thread here...
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/474587.page

Wonderful stuff, especially lately with Feudal Japan stuff.

Damn glad to see you boy. Made my day seeing a Theophony post.


I missed the interaction over the past few months, but too much was happening and not enough time to devote to the cause. I had to prioritize family over free time and friends, but things are settling a bit, so I will be crawling slowly back to life here soon. Also his stuff is great, as is your gargant build in the works .
Meer_Cat wrote:All the pieces are very well done- the ninja are great: you've done a terrific job of using many shades to give an overall impression of 'detailed black'. The basing system for them is quite clever as well.

Well done and welcome back!

Thanks Meer_Cat, the shading was an experiment, I’m glad it worked out. Your name always makes me think of the Cat from Red Dwarf

inmygravenimage wrote:Good to have ya back, brother.

It’s good to get back at it. Your Batman and TWD have been a great comfort to watch grow over these few months , hope I can get production back up close to your level. Also great ideas from your color choices and style will have an influence here.

My wife is on spring break this week and so are my kids, I was also able to get vacation time in this week so we have had lots of family time.... .

Spoiler for life events. Feel free to skip.
Spoiler:
Since my departure back in Nov/Dec we have had my dad in the hospital three times, my wife’s grandmother twice and my mother in law once . Dads Dialysis is not going well and he has fallen 5 times since the New Years, 3 of which caused hospital stays. Between his heart and dialysis the Dr. has given us a rough guess of 6months, which is hard because his mental and emotional state has deteriorated worse than his physical state has. Grandma is the opposite, she had a little heart scare, but she is trending to outlive all of us, but today we finally closed on her house, so that is one less concern for everyone. Stupid stuff with jobs, cars and kids getting into fights with bullies were great little distractions from daily boredom . It was just too much to try and keep up here and at home, so sorry guys, but GOD, family and friends is the order I place things in. But like I said, things are looking up and more stable now. Even though Miniaturemarket has moved their store AGAIN, now it’s a half hour drive . Well my bank account likes it . Back to the show


Todays Samurai

Mustache and all
Also a banner/objective marker WIP


Might get the brush working tomorrow night for a bit, but my new stress relief (our cats) demand attention . They are good for keeping my blood pressure down .

Thanks everyone again for the welcome backs, it means a lot.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/30 14:57:46


Post by: Llamahead


"Borrowed" your idea for the reeds for Frostgrave thanks for it! Looking at that box myself to go with my "Rising Sun" goodies as rank and file for a Dragons Rampant/Kings of War project in the fullness of time....


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/30 16:34:59


Post by: Theophony


 Llamahead wrote:
"Borrowed" your idea for the reeds for Frostgrave thanks for it! Looking at that box myself to go with my "Rising Sun" goodies as rank and file for a Dragons Rampant/Kings of War project in the fullness of time....


If you aren’t on the mailing list from warlord, then get on there, you get a discount for your first purchase , and occasional other goodies. Otherwise order from Miniaturemarket as they have about the best price I saw. I just got a better deal because of the exchange rate and a coupon....plus free shipping .

I bought the Samurai village file from Drivethrurpg.com yesterday and printed out a couple sets. It’ll help bulk out my terrain, and a good file to have if I wind up doing a demo game.

Assembled proof

Oh no! The village is under attack by Oni-Cat!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/31 16:34:27


Post by: Theophony


Terrible photography as usual

A couple of brigands.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/31 17:31:07


Post by: Dr H


Good to see you about these parts again, Theo'.
Sad to hear you are going through testing times, but it's good that it's easing up enough for you to have some "me" time.

Good job on your little samurai.

Effective card houses.
Not sure the giant cat (as realistic as it is) fits the setting quite so much.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/03/31 18:42:38


Post by: Theophony


Im pretty sure there are evil cat spirits in Japan. since I’m such an authority on Japan....I’ve eaten at an authentic Japanese restaurant after all .

Well I got one more knocked out before I leave for work.


He is a swordmaster and the instructor at the soon (arrives Tuesday) dojo, and he fights Ninjas....like the Tick . I might do some sort of pattern on his MC hammer pants, but not certain yet.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/01 20:05:36


Post by: inmygravenimage


Really beautiful work. Consider your game raised, sir.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/02 00:59:19


Post by: Yorkright


Loving the evil cat fig fits right in. Total agreement with Graven, your new stuff is exceptional.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/02 01:29:17


Post by: JoshInJapan


I'm sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch, and I hope it evens out soon.

Your samurai look good. For the armor, you might consider going back over the plates with a horizontal line between the layers of plating to cover the lacing. The lacing passes through the back of the plate rather than the front, so it wouldn't overlap like that. Check out some of the photos in this GIS for ideas.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/02 02:52:48


Post by: Camkierhi


Really nice looking figures. Very tempting. Cats are not evil, they don't care enough to be evil.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/03 17:46:41


Post by: JoeRugby


Welcome back Theo, sorry for what your going through.

The samurais are great but that ONI CAT looks amazing super lifelike.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/06 17:19:04


Post by: Theophony


inmygravenimage wrote:Really beautiful work. Consider your game raised, sir.

Thanks Graven, a true complement considering all your great work

Yorkright wrote: Loving the evil cat fig fits right in. Total agreement with Graven, your new stuff is exceptional.

He’s an old cat 17 years old and feeling every day of it, especially when our new kitten tries to get him to play. But he is such a loving cat for being the evil world destroyer that he is .

JoshInJapan wrote:I'm sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch, and I hope it evens out soon.

Your samurai look good. For the armor, you might consider going back over the plates with a horizontal line between the layers of plating to cover the lacing. The lacing passes through the back of the plate rather than the front, so it wouldn't overlap like that. Check out some of the photos in this GIS for ideas.

I will definitely clean up the lacing, thanks for that insight. Also I just picked up some more paint to do another highlight layer. Still need to get some red tone from army painter, but the FLGS was out .
Camkierhi wrote:Really nice looking figures. Very tempting. Cats are not evil, they don't care enough to be evil.

He is only evil in the fact that I’ve been sick this week (just body aches) and using a heating pad on my sore joints. When I got up to get a drink he climbed on the heating pad and got comfy. I didn’t have the heart to move him and he fell asleep on it, so much so that I began eating him and he didn’t move only purred louder. I even got to pet his feet (he was declawed as a kitten and doesn’t let anyone touch his feet), about twenty seconds into rubbing his feet he realized what was happening and hissed at me....he doesn’t do that so I backed away......quickly .

JoeRugby wrote:Welcome back Theo, sorry for what your going through.

The samurais are great but that ONI CAT looks amazing super lifelike.

Many layers of grey, I think I made him too fuzzy in spots, but wouldn’t change it. Thanks

Well I received the test of honour Dojo early this week, it’s laser cut MDF and was simple to assemble. Even though I like building my own stuff this looked too nice to pass up and I will eventually get more kits for the table.

Unassembled 3mm sheets.

Assembled with a brigand for scale

Side angle with doors opened.

The brigand

Thanks for all the kind words guys. More coming this weekend....hopefully


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/07 09:57:01


Post by: inmygravenimage


Truly, the sengoku jidai is brought to life! Getting jealous now, between you and Gits. This can't end well...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/07 15:41:08


Post by: Meer_Cat


Excellent work all around- the figures are terrific, but the buildings are really top notch.

And cat? A bit early for a stand-in for Gojira, isn't it? At least until your samurai have the option for Tesla-coil disrupters to back up their katana, naginata, etc.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/07 16:58:11


Post by: Dr H


Nice work, Theo'.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/08 13:55:23


Post by: Theophony


inmygravenimage wrote:Truly, the sengoku jidai is brought to life! Getting jealous now, between you and Gits. This can't end well...

I can’t say that mine will be anywhere near his quality, but I’m glad to see more of the feudal Japan style games getting some love.

Meer_Cat wrote:Excellent work all around- the figures are terrific, but the buildings are really top notch.

And cat? A bit early for a stand-in for Gojira, isn't it? At least until your samurai have the option for Tesla-coil disrupters to back up their katana, naginata, etc.

Well I could slip into Konflict 47, warlord games alternate timeline WWII game, but this year I’d like to focus on samurai as I’ve always wanted that army. The building is better than I expected from any MDF material. The FLGS I go to (never get to play, only to buy) doesn’t have any MDF kits, they have the Mantic/walking dead kit for sale, but none out to use. I may have to eventually get them to let me show mine off and get them to carry this stuff. Oh....and see below for the cat....

Dr H wrote:Nice work, Theo'.

Thanks Dr. H

So digging through my piles of old figs for my future samurai army I ran across a scorpion clan samurai from the ‘Ninja’ board game. He had to get painted up, and it’s ‘PURFECT’ that he has a pet cat that is just as fluffy as our cat ‘Smokie’ who graced my picture up above. This is obviously him in his younger days, but I couldn’t resist painting it up this morning.

There is some sort of design on his clothing, but I cannot make it out, so I’m going more with just letting the wash bring out the detail which would look more like embroidery than using multiple colors on it. Hopefully it works out.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/08 15:05:16


Post by: Yorkright


Love the buildingTheophony, and this samurai with the cat has me interested in the game too. Must resist...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/08 15:27:26


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote:
Love the buildingTheophony, and this samurai with the cat has me interested in the game too. Must resist...

Unfortunately the ‘Ninja’ L5R game came out 10 or so years ago and since L5R has been bought out by FFG I don’t think we will ever see a reprint. An almost direct copy of the game came out a few years ago called Rise of the Kage, it’s made by the same company that makes Bushido. I almost bought it from miniaturemarket a couple months ago on clearance for $40, but as I went to order one of their last 8 copies they went on a maintenance break . 20 minutes later they had 0....0 copies , they changed their inventory numbers and they didn’t have it anymore .

Bushido really tempted me, but they are 32mm models and no one stocked them, so I ordered more of the Test of Honour which allows more variety, but no fantasy what so ever. Watching Gits blog is tempting me back.

Got some more paint tossed down.

Another sword wielding bandit.

I love how this green turned out. Pale lichen with a waywatcher green wash.

You know he’s a bandit because he stole some ladies purse.

Also WIP of another bandit


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 13:49:44


Post by: Theophony


Started work on the dojo last night/this morning. Sorry for the mess, but a large shelf on my desk collapsed , many broken things in the process. Roof has been blocked in with red and slate grey tiles and a creamy off white section below the ridge line.

I’m using Walmart apple barrel paints for the building as it’s absorbing a good amount and price is an object.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 14:01:57


Post by: Yorkright


Sorry to hear about the accident hopefully the broken bits will be salvageable. On to brighter things the building is looking good, your color scheme really looks like feudal Japanese architecture. As for Walmart paints I have used them too and have found they cover quite well.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 17:44:42


Post by: Theophony


Thanks Yorkright , no major losses, just scared the out of me as I was sitting there and had just thought about redoing that shelf to put my Test of Honour stuff on. Luckily I was lazy and didn’t do it .

Speaking of ToH, I took Cams suggestion again and quickly went through Nmt’s thread and liked his idea for a water trough/washing tub deal. So I nicked it.

I used floral wire to put the band around it. I will eventually give it a bath in Agrax earthshade or its equivalent, but for now it is almost done. I plan on making water effects (it’ll be my first try) in the top, and possibly make a lid for it. Either way it’s another piece of scatter for the table

Also worked more on the dojo

The wood colored sections of the door got covered. The trim area on each panel will be in the same red as the roof and frameposts.

The decking that surrounds the building got the same wood color to it. Touch ups are needed on the off white areas, I think I may go darker a tone or two as it’s too light to me, I’ll see later.

Here it is with the roof back on. I might pick out the long lines on the roof in red as well, suggestions for or against are welcomed.

The Walmart paint is working great.the MDF sucks up any first layer and doing it in GW paintwould bankrupt a small nation, and I have two Oni-cats and three Oni-teenagers to feed. I need to restock on those paints though as I was using colors I had bought for other projects and these are low now.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 17:55:00


Post by: cormadepanda


Thr dojo is much better looking painted. Maybe in the futuee seal the mdf? I am crazy though.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 20:49:40


Post by: CommissarKhaine


That's a nice dojo! Would sealing the mdf with spray varnish help with the soaking up of paint?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/09 23:10:58


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Thr dojo is much better looking painted. Maybe in the futuee seal the mdf? I am crazy though.

I thought about priming it, but I e had the worst luck lately with that, and since I planned on using really cheap paint I just figured I’d let it soak in.

CommissarKhaine wrote:That's a nice dojo! Would sealing the mdf with spray varnish help with the soaking up of paint?

Thanks CK, it would keep it from absorbing more paint, but as I stated above, it was just easier and cheaper to just do multiple coats. Besides the fact that it sucked in paints at various levels really makes the wool look more natural with how it would absorb stain.

While thinking about the dojo and the ninja attack scene from “The Last Samurai” I came up with the idea to possibly slide sheets of metal underneath the roof so I can magnetize the ninja bases. No in game use, but would just look cool. The roof is pretty well hollow anyway and no disassembly would be needed.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/10 00:09:56


Post by: Meer_Cat


Ha! Love the figure with the cat- life imitates art!

The sword wielding bandit is also very nice- like others I'm resisting the urge to dive into the world of samurai, ronin and daimyo......must-not-give-in....



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/10 01:13:42


Post by: Theophony


 Meer_Cat wrote:
Ha! Love the figure with the cat- life imitates art!

The sword wielding bandit is also very nice- like others I'm resisting the urge to dive into the world of samurai, ronin and daimyo......must-not-give-in....



Come to the Dark side...we have Oni....and a health plan


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/11 02:24:01


Post by: cormadepanda


 Theophony wrote:
 Meer_Cat wrote:
Ha! Love the figure with the cat- life imitates art!

The sword wielding bandit is also very nice- like others I'm resisting the urge to dive into the world of samurai, ronin and daimyo......must-not-give-in....



Come to the Dark side...we have Oni....and a health plan


pretty sure killing yourself is not a health plan...


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/11 19:54:15


Post by: Theophony


 cormadepanda wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Meer_Cat wrote:
Ha! Love the figure with the cat- life imitates art!

The sword wielding bandit is also very nice- like others I'm resisting the urge to dive into the world of samurai, ronin and daimyo......must-not-give-in....



Come to the Dark side...we have Oni....and a health plan


pretty sure killing yourself is not a health plan...

you don’t have to kill yourself for our health plan....unless you took the lower level one .

Anywho....

Assembled the lanterns which came with the dojo, sword has been assembled a few days ago, all has been basecoated since the picture was taken.

The sword is a measuring stick, the blade is marked in 1” increments and is a total of 6”(normal movement distance for foot sluggers) from tip to the hand guard. The handle is 3” which means overall is 9”( movement distance of cavalry figs).
I think I’ll eventually order another pack or two of these to use.

Painted the red parts of the doors, the top and bottom tabs won’t be seen in the building. I think the inside will be a light brown color.

Doors installed across the front. The rectangles above the doors all away around have a darker tone now too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/11 20:17:39


Post by: Llamahead


The dojo is looking good for water effects just use several coats of PVA glue. Cheap and effective.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/12 00:40:57


Post by: cormadepanda


That measuring stick is how i am going to train cats to be ninjas.

The dojo is where i am doing it.

I like how the dojo is going, but how about a creamy white? With dark brown red accents. Maybe some plants to spruce the place up too.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/12 19:37:07


Post by: Theophony


Llamahead wrote:The dojo is looking good for water effects just use several coats of PVA glue. Cheap and effective.


True enough , just don’t be a stupid Gaijin like me and touch it with your finger before it’s dry

cormadepanda wrote:That measuring stick is how i am going to train cats to be ninjas.

The dojo is where i am doing it.

I like how the dojo is going, but how about a creamy white? With dark brown red accents. Maybe some plants to spruce the place up too.


Here I thought you were going to Haiku us for a moment. , but Ninja cats are just as good.

Sorry for the dump and run, but at work now.







Oh, and starting to make some cherry trees. These must be the ones from casinos that make the gold cherries that win jackpots.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/12 20:31:11


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Dojo is looking good, definitley see what you mean with the stain effect from the wood absorbing the paint. Nice table as well!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/14 17:50:58


Post by: Theophony


Thanks CK, the absorption really does give a nice effect. I’ll probably hit it all with washes in the future, but for now it’s done.

No new pics, had a second shelf of stuff collapse for no apparent reason. ninjas took the brunt of it with both shuriken tossers and a two sworded guy each losing arms and ever sword getting bent . Sashimonos everywhere and bases broken off. All my Ghar models for Gates of Antares took a hit too. Desk has gotten cleaned up a bit, but progress is halted for a few days as I decide what to do next to fix everything. The converted desk may disappear in its entirety, but that seems to be a big undertaking.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/14 21:13:55


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


I love that sword measuring stick!

Your Dojo is looking great! Who makes that?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/14 21:39:16


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ooft. Shelf death :( hope it gets cleared up soon as.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/14 23:52:03


Post by: Theophony


SlaveToDorkness wrote:I love that sword measuring stick!

Your Dojo is looking great! Who makes that?

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/test-of-honour/products/test-of-honour-dojo warlordgames gets it from Sarissa-precision and it comes with the sword and two lanterns. They have a ton of great designs which will eventually join my collection, but not for a while. They also have a set of 2 swords and 4 lanterns for £7.50
inmygravenimage wrote:Ooft. Shelf death :( hope it gets cleared up soon as.

Me too, to bad you live too far away to come help there’s some unused figs and stuff around I could pay you with.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/15 21:34:15


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Argh shelf death :(. Hope fixing it isn't too bad!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/16 01:23:25


Post by: cormadepanda


The local town seems to be assembling well. Best of luck theo. I have deployed the cats.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/16 18:43:48


Post by: Theophony


CommissarKhaine wrote:Argh shelf death :(. Hope fixing it isn't too bad!


I should explain better. The back of the desk I use has pegboard attached. Both incidents had stuff mounted to the pegboard pop off for no reason whatsoever. The pegs stayed in place butstuff that was fully on it popped off. The second was a utensil drawer I use to place newly finished work on so I can admire it over a few days, or rework it if I don’t like it later. It popped out when there was no reason why it would have...I am seriously considering ghosts here.

cormadepanda wrote:The local town seems to be assembling well. Best of luck theo. I have deployed the cats.

Thanks I know what a Cat-man-do does when needed

Well just a quick one again today. I have seriously pulled a muscle in my shoulder/back. I’ve been avoiding the doctor (working at a hospital means that’s difficult), so I’m trying to take it as easy as I can. Sitting at a painting table and leaning my head down is quite painful so I only took a half hour today, backed up with lots of ibuprofen and Tylenol. I wanted to find a different way of doing some bamboo and the bandit I was working on recently looked like he had a bamboo walking stick or bo staff. I think it worked out pretty well.



The washes are still wet in many of the pics. I’m letting some possible bamboo dry right now, I’ll try and snap some pics before I leave for work. They are just wooden dowels with agrax earthshade was he followed by a beil-tangreen wash.






Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/16 19:07:47


Post by: Maniac_nmt


How do you like the paper/card buildings? I've got a number to build once I get around to working up some Blood & Plunder related stuff, but have had mixed results with the two I did to test them out.

Do you matte spray them or do anything to hide the scoring lines on the edges?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/16 19:43:00


Post by: Yorkright


Sorry about the back Theo hope you are feeling better soon. Like how you did the bamboo, I may steal that color scheme.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/16 19:47:48


Post by: Theophony


 Maniac_nmt wrote:
How do you like the paper/card buildings? I've got a number to build once I get around to working up some Blood & Plunder related stuff, but have had mixed results with the two I did to test them out.

Do you matte spray them or do anything to hide the scoring lines on the edges?

For test of honor you don’t need the insides of the building in most cases, they work fine. I used 90# weight paper when it says to use 110, but they seem fine. They won’t last forever, but eventually I’ll just use them as templates to scratchbuild more buildings or replace them with ones from sarissa-precision or 4 ground. I don’t seal them. I only bend them with my hands though and don’t score them enough to break the ink job.

Your new fort is coming along nicely.

Also I think I found a new 1:1 scale project. Really tempted.



Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 07:34:36


Post by: inmygravenimage


Make the Tetsubo and use as a cane! Also get well more lovely minis. Happy to help fix stuff but the commute is a bugger.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 11:47:11


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote: Sorry about the back Theo hope you are feeling better soon. Like how you did the bamboo, I may steal that color scheme.

Thanks, it’ll get better, just a reminder that I’m not a youth anymore.

inmygravenimage wrote:Make the Tetsubo and use as a cane! Also get well more lovely minis. Happy to help fix stuff but the commute is a bugger.

I’m thinking about it seriously. Now I’m researching length of the Tetsubo. I’m 6’5” and most historical pics have them to the sternum to shoulder height.

I’m looking for a real thin (micron) marker in brown to possibly draw the bamboo bands in, but otherwise I won’t worry about it because of scale size.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 17:49:00


Post by: Dr H


Good job on the chap and the bamboo colouration.

Hope the back, shelf, ghost problems get better.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 19:28:25


Post by: Theophony


 Dr H wrote:
Good job on the chap and the bamboo colouration.

Hope the back, shelf, ghost problems get better.


I think it’s all just brain problems.

No modeling done today, but started to price out materials for the Tetsubo...
$60ish for the lumber
$35 for the carriagebolts
$20 for stains and supplies
Not to mention I personally don’t own a table saw. Knew I should have grabbed the monster one from Poppy

I may have to switch out the lumber from oak to something else, even if it’s just for a prototype. It would cut the costs dramatically.

On the bamboo side, the smaller diameter sticks look much more realistic than the large ones. Still not sure of the band/segments, will have to check them out later.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 19:32:11


Post by: cormadepanda


Well with a hurt back do you really need a club?

Cycle hot and cold on it. And if you can do some pressure and stretching for it.

Either way... i am here watching


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 21:15:09


Post by: CommissarKhaine


That's a nice tetsubo - not to mention the models . Hope the back gets better soon!


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/17 22:10:45


Post by: Meer_Cat


Very nice figures- I've commented from time to time on individual ones, but to see a large group of them was very impressive.

I like the idea of the tetsubo as well- stylish _and_ useful!

For the joint lines on your bamboo- could you score a line with a hobby knife and hit it was another wash of Agrax Earthshade?

Great work all around- like I mentioned earlier, I'm resisting (so far successfully) the urge to run out and get invested in samurai themed figures, motivated by your work.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 05:17:08


Post by: Theophony


cormadepanda wrote:Well with a hurt back do you really need a club?

Cycle hot and cold on it. And if you can do some pressure and stretching for it.

Either way... i am here watching


Um....YEAH! big clubs fix problems that might annoy someone with a sore back .

CommissarKhaine wrote:That's a nice tetsubo - not to mention the models . Hope the back gets better soon!


Thanks CK, it’s on the mend, and hopefully more models Jon the fray soon.

Meer_Cat wrote:Very nice figures- I've commented from time to time on individual ones, but to see a large group of them was very impressive.

I like the idea of the tetsubo as well- stylish _and_ useful!

For the joint lines on your bamboo- could you score a line with a hobby knife and hit it was another wash of Agrax Earthshade?

Great work all around- like I mentioned earlier, I'm resisting (so far successfully) the urge to run out and get invested in samurai themed figures, motivated by your work.

Thanks Meer_Cat , really appreciate the kind words. A samurai army has always been my dream, and the game is a nice step towards it. We have a lot of talented painters here on DakkaDakka who have inspired me to attack the samurai models. I hope you decide to jump into the game...either one really as what I’ve seen of Bushido really does look good, so does Kensei and I’m tempted to try and get a copy of the Ronin rules from Osprey as well.


Well the guys who made the Tetsubo make lots of weapons.....and armor too. I was watching another of their videos and now I want to Cosplay as a zombie apocalypse samurai . I like their easy to make riveted washer armor.

Also I did some more searching and found the local Menards has the 2x2-8’ oak for $20 and the packs of carriage bolts (66) for $1.89. So for less than $30 I’ll have the main supplies for the Tetsubo..... I just need to borrow a table saw now. The other question is what color to stain it? Should I go with the Mahogany like in the video? Or they have colored poly shades where I could try and do a red, blue or black stain? My feeling is it should be dark so it contrasts with the carriage bolts, and then use color on the handle wrapping. I was also considering drilling into the base of the handle to install a eyebolt which could also get wrapping or just fabric strips on it? Also while at work I was thinking about the length and 5’ is just about right, though I might cut it 5’6” as that would rest across my shoulders for the full length.

Keep the comments coming, it’s really getting my crazy project juices flowing

Edit: used my micron pen to draw rings. Right side one was done after dried washes, left side was drawn on dowel before washes which are wet.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 05:47:33


Post by: JoshInJapan


Somewhere on some terrain blog (Terragenesis?), someone put up a tutorial about palm trees. He wrapped making tape around whatever he used as the core to get those horizontal rings. Maybe that would work for bamboo-- instead of overlapping the tape all the way up, you could try wrapping individual segments with just a tiny space between each section?

That said, drawing rings with pen looks like it would do the job quite well, and with less work.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 08:40:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


Wow! the feudal Japan is looking good Theo! and the troops look good.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 09:17:35


Post by: inmygravenimage


Sakura micron pen ftw! Nice work dude.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 18:44:13


Post by: Theophony


JoshInJapan wrote:Somewhere on some terrain blog (Terragenesis?), someone put up a tutorial about palm trees. He wrapped making tape around whatever he used as the core to get those horizontal rings. Maybe that would work for bamboo-- instead of overlapping the tape all the way up, you could try wrapping individual segments with just a tiny space between each section?

That said, drawing rings with pen looks like it would do the job quite well, and with less work.

I saw one like it from Luke Towan, I think I’ll stick with the pen, much easier and way less time consuming.

shasolenzabi wrote:Wow! the feudal Japan is looking good Theo! and the troops look good.

Thanks Shasolenzabi

inmygravenimage wrote:Sakura micron pen ftw! Nice work dude.

Not sure if it’s Sakura, it’s downstairs and I’m tired and lazy .

As the Vorlon Kosh said.......”and so it begins.”

TETSUBO!!!!

The cuts didn’t come out great, but I think it’ll work just fine .

Resting now, killing a tree in a little while, then maybe some more work on it.

Oh and the grip already feels fantastic. I think 5’ will be fine after all. That fixes some of the bad cut issues.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 20:02:44


Post by: cormadepanda


Well this is pretty much awesome.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/18 21:57:37


Post by: Theophony


 cormadepanda wrote:
Well this is pretty much awesome.


I hope so, my brothers tablesaw had issues and he didn’t leave out the pusher or blocks so it was all done freehand. Not perfect, but messed up parts will be where I wind up having the handle at. It took me almost an hour to figure out he had a screw block keeping the saw from going past a 37 degree angle . Once I found that (his model is slightly different than the online user manual), everything went smooth. Best part is he lives with my parents still, so I got to visit with them after cutting the board. It’s still 8’ right now, still deciding if I’m going to go more than the 5’ build like the video, or just go 5’. Bloggers not always better . Besides I had to take out a tree stump just now and I grabbed my 8# sledgehammer. If this 5’ beatstick is 6#, I’m going to need to hit the gym. Even with 3’ of handle it will be a beast to swing.



Hopefully I can just use my sledgehammer for this sort of workout.

Edit: newest addition to my bandit crew



Im thinking of adding something to the back of his jacket. I don’t think the rising sun would be appropriate, any suggestions?


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/19 21:15:08


Post by: youwashock


Steel...mace...workout? Wow.

Very cool project with the tetsubo.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/20 15:32:38


Post by: Theophony


 youwashock wrote:
Steel...mace...workout? Wow.

Very cool project with the tetsubo.


So scale shot

So I started with the 8’ 2x2 red oak and put 45degree miter on each of the corners. Also cut it down to a 5’ length like in the video. Tadashi the dishonorable on old GW hexagonal paint pot for size.

Scale shot of Tadashi with the 1/4”x 3/4” zinc carriage bolt to get an idea of the 200 of these which will adorn the business end of the Tetsubo.

Now to start marking off the drill spots 200 marks.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/20 15:42:17


Post by: Yorkright


Got a question Theo, how did you do the hat on the bandit?
Sledgehammer workout, now that looks killer may have to incorporate that into my lifting schedule.


Theo's getting back into GW specialist games pg 44 @ 2018/04/20 17:48:40


Post by: Theophony


Yorkright wrote:
Got a question Theo, how did you do the hat on the bandit?
Sledgehammer workout, now that looks killer may have to incorporate that into my lifting schedule.


The hat comes on the bandit...but if your asking paint wise, it was zandri dust washed with seraphim sepia.

Also, drill press makes short work of 128, yes 128 stud holes on the short 3’ length of the off-cut Tetsubo. 20 minutes tops for the holes....putting the bolts in....20 in about an hour .

This is my Test piece, I’m learning a lot from it. The larger piece will get stained and the handle worked on before it gets bolted together. The handle on the little guy is large enough for both hands, but also good for just one handed swings.