lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

This... and, isn’t time to start ignoring GW new releases? Use standard light cavalry archers for this unit IFF anyone is interested in Ao$ and otherwise wait for GW to screw up WHFB for the last time, then we can all move on to better companies with better rules and sure, if you want to use your cow worshipping kangaroo riding (they must be) high elves then ok.. they count as (expensive) light cavalry archers.

Well, after seeing some more complete pictures, I'm going to have to take back my kangaroo comments.
They actually look pretty good and in good poses. The only thing I'd change is the awful heads - those hats can do one.

The vampire still looks like an old basic dark eldar trooper with disney hair.

The more I look at it, the vampire makes me think of Terry Pratchett and Discworld.

 jeff white wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

This... and, isn’t time to start ignoring GW new releases?

Erm, not sure if this is the thread for you then.

If they actually made plastic, really good blood knights, I won't lie I'd be interested. I'd probably never play AoS but I loved blood knights but their kit is over the moon expensive and I only got the ones I did because my friend hooked me up with a good price for them. If they came out great and in plastic ? I'd be super tempted even if I'd only ever use them in fantasy, if/when I get a chance to play the system again.


The Roo riders are awesome, and I wish they re made rough riders in that vein, but maybe with mounted RPGs on them. That would be nice. Forward Roo squadron to death and glory !

The vampire edge lord would look much better, if he was bald and wasn’t awkwardly standing on a rock. Also Sauron called, he wants his mace back.

The Elf Hero is not too bad, kangaroo riders still don’t appeal to me in the slightest I’m afraid.

Yeah I'm not sure what it is with the vampire it feels so basic, yet dumb disney, exudes 0 menace and somehow shuts down any appeal from me. It's very rare a model is dropped for a faction I'm generally a fan of and it makes me just not even feel an urge to want it. If their intent was to make me not even like it enough to hate it, well done GW, 10 out of 10 this time.

I was initially intrigued by the blurry image of the vampire. But seeing it now, it's a bit plain for me. The hair doesn't help, the armor is surprisingly bland. I don't have high hopes for this range. Vampires in blood bowl however....bring em on.

The model itself does nothing for me but a Vampire centric subfaction is intriguing. Definitely tuning in to see what their theme/roster will be like.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The more I look at it, the vampire makes me think of Terry Pratchett and Discworld.

Since you mention Pratchett, to me the Lumineth cavalry would look right at home on a Discworld novel cover:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

You might be looking at the wrong game for that, AoS is and has continued to go into a more fantastical approach. Waiting for the return of the old world in whatever form that ends up being might be a better idea. I do enjoy some of the AoS concepts, I think the Kharadron Overlords and Idoneth were great. But it's hit/miss for me most of the time. I'm actually kinda disappointed the Malerion type dark mutant elves that were rumored never came about. I remember seeing some cool artwork but it never materialized into anything.

Hero Quest, with individual clam packs for models that can be sold for £17.50-£27.50. If they go down this route it will be the ultimate cash grab for me.

I actually like most of the Vampire, but I would definitely swap the head (and associated hair) with something less goofy.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I actually like most of the Vampire, but I would definitely swap the head (and associated hair) with something less goofy.

Cut the hair, replace mace with sword.

Actually, throw helmeted one on top.

Be done and have amazing lord... actually, remove stone aswell.

 Hollow wrote:
Hero Quest, with individual clam packs for models that can be sold for £17.50-£27.50. If they go down this route it will be the ultimate cash grab for me.

We sort of saw this with Silver Tower.

When the set was released, the box contained unique sculpts (at least I’m fairly sure none were repurposed). But they also had rules for a variety of Heroes available in clam packs. And in due course, the adventurer models all saw a clam pack release.

They also added rules for baddies, but sadly not comprehensive ones (and I think that was for Shadows over Hammerhal. I’ve got the Chaos ones kicking about somewhere)

So to my mind, the vamp in clampack isn’t necessarily a sign it won’t be in a boxed game.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I actually like most of the Vampire, but I would definitely swap the head (and associated hair) with something less goofy.

Cut the hair, replace mace with sword.

Actually, throw helmeted one on top.

Be done and have amazing lord... actually, remove stone aswell.

The mace is cool. It's nice to see a weapon that isn't another fething sword/hammer/axe. It'd be amazing if we could get some flails, halbreds, two-handed swords, rapiers, sabers, and picks.

 Togusa wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I actually like most of the Vampire, but I would definitely swap the head (and associated hair) with something less goofy.

Cut the hair, replace mace with sword.

Actually, throw helmeted one on top.

Be done and have amazing lord... actually, remove stone aswell.

The mace is cool. It's nice to see a weapon that isn't another fething sword/hammer/axe. It'd be amazing if we could get some flails, halbreds, two-handed swords, rapiers, sabers, and picks.

Halberd i agree with. the mace just seems really blunt for the overall theme of the model personally.
That said, a twohander would also be something interesting on it.

Maces also tend to prevent blood being spilled, hence why Holy Men and Ogres prefer them. Same logic extends to Vampires. Better to eat a tenderised steak than one that’s been dropped on the floor, eh

Not so sure that applies to this sort of mace as much, Doc - seems to be bladed edges rather than a blunt instrument.

 Dysartes wrote:
Not so sure that applies to this sort of mace as much, Doc - seems to be bladed edges rather than a blunt instrument.

They don't seem to be, they are.

Further Doc there's a whole slew of blunt weapons that'd be better to be wielded by the immense strength of a vampire, last but not least the goedendag, morning and eveningstars, warhammers, polehammers, poleaxes, sledgehammers, etc. if indeed the preservation of the blood would be the maingoal.
As it stands, indeed, Sauron called and want's his mace back.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

Yes? I mean I thought that was made clear when they literally blew up their classic fantasy style world? Not saying I necessarily agree with the decision but it’s clearly the one that was made.
Pretty sure you’re going to have to wait for Warhammer: the Old World for those to come back.

 CMLR wrote:

Imagine proxying Leviathans with actual dead crabs or lobsters while playing Crab Rave.

lol, this might smell a bit too Nurgley maybe?

Well, it looks like one of the Underworlds vampires would at least have a sword - and if some of the Rumour Engines are also for them, there may well be more than one.

Guess it depends on whether vampires are going to be foot soldiers in this, or just characters like we've typically seen before (with the exception of the elite Blood Knights of course). While I like the latter, I'd be all for another 4 plastic armoured vampires on foot for Underworlds. Yes please. This one doesn't make me too happy yet, but the style itself is good.

(And yet more if they would feature in Quest, but that's pure speculation at this stage, right?)

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

For AOS? Yep. Point was no more classic fantasy style armies.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Not so sure that applies to this sort of mace as much, Doc - seems to be bladed edges rather than a blunt instrument.

They don't seem to be, they are.

Further Doc there's a whole slew of blunt weapons that'd be better to be wielded by the immense strength of a vampire, last but not least the goedendag, morning and eveningstars, warhammers, polehammers, poleaxes, sledgehammers, etc. if indeed the preservation of the blood would be the maingoal.
As it stands, indeed, Sauron called and want's his mace back.

Ahh, but the flanged mace is ideal for messing up the joints of plate armour. Get that right (skill as much as strength), and your opponent can’t fight. Historically due to ransom, but in this case, for Elevensies.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Not so sure that applies to this sort of mace as much, Doc - seems to be bladed edges rather than a blunt instrument.

They don't seem to be, they are.

Further Doc there's a whole slew of blunt weapons that'd be better to be wielded by the immense strength of a vampire, last but not least the goedendag, morning and eveningstars, warhammers, polehammers, poleaxes, sledgehammers, etc. if indeed the preservation of the blood would be the maingoal.
As it stands, indeed, Sauron called and want's his mace back.

Ahh, but the flanged mace is ideal for messing up the joints of plate armour. Get that right (skill as much as strength), and your opponent can’t fight. Historically due to ransom, but in this case, for Elevensies.

There's a much simpler way, aka the goedendag, infact you can even use a Mordhau grip on a longsword or any equivalent (shouldn't be a worry for a vampire really strengthwise) for much the same process, hit head with that, keep the blood, maintain armor penetration and versatility AND be able to bully the much more common padded armor / chainmail combo of the common meatbag meal.


Edit: tbf from a culinary perspective, and combined with the abilities of a Vampire, a big cast iron pan might be the better option overall.

tneva82 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

For AOS? Yep. Point was no more classic fantasy style armies.

And yet, the Ogre and Wolf Rider Underworlds warbands are basically pure classic fantasy. Not saying there hasn't been a general shift away from these, but it's not like classic fantasy is absent.

Another case in point: the latest vampire. Stylistically, it wouldn't look out of place in a WHFB Vampire Counts army.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

For AOS? Yep. Point was no more classic fantasy style armies.

And yet, the Ogre and Wolf Rider Underworlds warbands are basically pure classic fantasy. Not saying there hasn't been a general shift away from these, but it's not like classic fantasy is absent.

Another case in point: the latest vampire. Stylistically, it wouldn't look out of place in a WHFB Vampire Counts army.

Exactly this. I don't think the classic fantasy elements look at all out of place in AoS. And I don't mean to disparage the stranger choices they've made. I would just like to see more classic fantasy. I don't mind a giant cow monster, but I also want horse archers. Personal preference, obviously. *shrug*

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Big oof on both of those models and my condolences to Elf lovers that GW is going out of its way to make them dumb.

It's been a bit painful since the reveal last year. All we want is a classic fantasy style army. Is that too much to ask?

For AOS? Yep. Point was no more classic fantasy style armies.

And yet, the Ogre and Wolf Rider Underworlds warbands are basically pure classic fantasy. Not saying there hasn't been a general shift away from these, but it's not like classic fantasy is absent.

Another case in point: the latest vampire. Stylistically, it wouldn't look out of place in a WHFB Vampire Counts army.

Exactly this. I don't think the classic fantasy elements look at all out of place in AoS. And I don't mean to disparage the stranger choices they've made. I would just like to see more classic fantasy. I don't mind a giant cow monster, but I also want horse archers. Personal preference, obviously. *shrug*

The real secret is that they are design-led. You want horse archers, hunt down one of their designers and convince them horse archers are really cool. Maybe present a semi-realised concept for an army to go with it, all casual like.

I honestly liked the first wave Elf cavalry, the spearmen, the archers, both casters, Elthrion. Teclis, cowmountain and cowhammers were rather meh. These kangaroos, on the other hand, reminded me why I hated aos in the first place, right when I was about to become rather ok with the whole nonsense it had. Sircerely, thank you, GW. Now off to sell my LoA for 300% msrp

GW are certainly listening to the community for some things...

https://youtu.be/IFdNK5cPCGg

That vampire lord does not bode well for soulblight. Good thing I decided to convert one out of the new Mephiston.

Apologists: "STOP SAYING THEY'RE KANGAROOS"
GW: "elves with australian accents lol"

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Apologists: "STOP SAYING THEY'RE KANGAROOS"
GW: "elves with australian accents lol"

GW also said they are not kangaroos ;-) So apologists 1, complainers: 0.

Also main reason for stop saying is because people are complaining how they can shoot from top of kangaroo when it's blindingly obvious even to kids that they don't move like a kangaroo. If people want to make silly comparisons better to be prepared to be corrected.

I'm a big fan of the new Vampire. I don't even mind the insane hair. The more subdued armor is a welcome change and at least the tactical rock is plastic, so some cutting can remove it.

I can't wait to see what else they have for that line. The Aelves on MIyazaki mounts? Not so much.

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Apologists: "STOP SAYING THEY'RE KANGAROOS"
GW: "elves with australian accents lol"

GW also said they are not kangaroos ;-) So apologists 1, complainers: 0.

Also main reason for stop saying is because people are complaining how they can shoot from top of kangaroo when it's blindingly obvious even to kids that they don't move like a kangaroo. If people want to make silly comparisons better to be prepared to be corrected.

Not a single person will have been under any impression they were literally going to be called Kangaroos. If they were, they'd be getting called Joestrider Roobarbys or something.

The comments were that they looked like Kangaroos, then GW made a video rolling with the reaction.

I will certainly be looking to try modify the legs to be more Kangaroo-like. So keen for the reveals!

diepotato47 wrote:
I will certainly be looking to try modify the legs to be more Kangaroo-like. So keen for the reveals!

Getting them paired into the same position is probably all that's required, though I suspect that'll only work for 4/5.

Me likey very much! Emperor class inbound?????

Unlikely - the Imperator/Emperor had larger legs with enough room within that the toes are steps that allow marines to charge down them from a chapel within each leg.

But its going to be big, just not Imperator size - yet

The Adeptus Titanicus people already figured out what it's going to be ages ago


https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2021/1/20/6987eafb8b54e8ba6201a0add4895286_121114.jpg

Yes and no.

We can be reasonably sure of its art based origin (especially with today’s tidbit).

And we of course know it’s a Titan.

But beyond that? Judging the scale, and therefore it’s roll in a Maniple is still up in the air.

 Arbitrator wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Apologists: "STOP SAYING THEY'RE KANGAROOS"
GW: "elves with australian accents lol"

GW also said they are not kangaroos ;-) So apologists 1, complainers: 0.

Also main reason for stop saying is because people are complaining how they can shoot from top of kangaroo when it's blindingly obvious even to kids that they don't move like a kangaroo. If people want to make silly comparisons better to be prepared to be corrected.

Not a single person will have been under any impression they were literally going to be called Kangaroos. If they were, they'd be getting called Joestrider Roobarbys or something.

The comments were that they looked like Kangaroos, then GW made a video rolling with the reaction.

I mean, I know they don't *really* look or move like a Kangaroo, but I will still call them Kangaroos because it's funny.

Clearly GW thinks it's funny also.

If you're not having fun, which I thought was the point, then I have no idea what to tell someone.

Oof. That kangaroo cavalry. No thanks.

New vamps look pretty dope, tho!

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure what it is with the vampire it feels so basic, yet dumb disney, exudes 0 menace and somehow shuts down any appeal from me. It's very rare a model is dropped for a faction I'm generally a fan of and it makes me just not even feel an urge to want it. If their intent was to make me not even like it enough to hate it, well done GW, 10 out of 10 this time.

The kit wasnt that expensive... I mena dragon prices were what? £20 ?

 Hellebore wrote:
GW are certainly listening to the community for some things...

https://youtu.be/IFdNK5cPCGg

All the proof I need, who ever was on team WarRiders of the Roo, sound off, we have been proven correct.

I also kinda dig the underworlds Vampire they have shown. An additional conversion base for my Deldar.

I'm digging her.

She is kind thaw.

And that's all the death related puns I have for her.

My only complain are her fangs; otherwise I do like her.

She looks a lot like she cames from the Vampire Cost with that pose and rapiers

Marceline the Vampire Queen!

She's better than the first one but still feels like no passion was put into her. She doesn't jump out at me and I really love undead.

First one with these blades?

Yes please.

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
She's better than the first one but still feels like no passion was put into her. She doesn't jump out at me and I really love undead.

That's the main issue with Vampire sculpts always showing their fangs as they need to have their mouths wide open for such it never fits on calm faces but angry/shouting ones.

Oh boy, I love the bowgaroos and the Lord Catgent.
Can't wait to field an (almost) all cavalry LRL army and make funny noises for every unit...

The Vampires look solid to me. The blade girl appeals a bit more to my liking, but the mace one fits the theme pretty well.

I like this one. And her left hand and sword was one of the rumour engine pictures, wasn't it?

Looks like Murder Buckets might be getting a separate kit.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like Murder Buckets might be getting a separate kit.

What are 'murder buckets'? A big part of me wants this to be Dark Mechanicus but I imagine it'll be their loyalist brothers

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like Murder Buckets might be getting a separate kit.

New Kill team box.

That’s a new flayed one. I suspect that will be the new Kill Team thing. And the front guy is a Cryptek.

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like Murder Buckets might be getting a separate kit.

What are 'murder buckets'? A big part of me wants this to be Dark Mechanicus but I imagine it'll be their loyalist brothers

Murderbuckets is the delightfully whimsical name given to the Cryptothralls, a bodyguard unit for Crypteks.


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 Tiberius501 wrote:
That’s a new flayed one. I suspect that will be the new Kill Team thing. And the front guy is a Cryptek.

Yes, the front guy is a Cryptek. I can't tell enough detail for the arms/hands on the back item to see if it's a Cryptothrall or not.

I would not be shocked though if Crypteks include a Cryptothrall or two in the set, like the Dark Apostle and the various Stormcast heroes with Gryph-Hounds.

I reckon that's a Flayed One not a Murder Bucket, maybe a new Kill Team (or Kill Team starter set) with one of the new Crypteks and the Flayed Ones.

Doubt the buckets will get an individual kit as the codex has them as a 2 model unit max, unless they come in the Crypteks sets as bodyguards.

It's flayed ones. You can tell because of the "raptor" claw toe they've got on the foot. Several of the flayed ones have it, and you can see it in the tease

I will never be able to look at those without thinking "West Coast" or "WuTang Clan"

Looks like the Chronomancer will finally get his release, along with the Flayed Ones in Kill Team.

 GaroRobe wrote:



It's flayed ones. You can tell because of the "raptor" claw toe they've got on the foot. Several of the flayed ones have it, and you can see it in the tease

Good point. Probs is Flayed Ones, so guess another 40k boxed set being shown off.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:



It's flayed ones. You can tell because of the "raptor" claw toe they've got on the foot. Several of the flayed ones have it, and you can see it in the tease

Good point. Probs is Flayed Ones, so guess another 40k boxed set being shown off.

40k box no! Kill team box!

what you see on the miniatures are markers of amaing in KT game .

My question is if the "good ones" will be inquisition or something interesting, or just more marines.

Hadn’t they already confirmed Flayed Ones are coming in Kill Team, which is like,y a new starter.
That Kill Team tease video had them in it didn’t it?


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Ninja’d.
But also, the 2 day reveal thing, it says target acquired over the two silhouettes.
That’s very Kill Team esque anyway.
So it’s definitkey for that.

Kill Team *could* be something cool, like Inquisition or Ecchlisiarchy, both of which are rumored to get models, with the latter actually have strong rumor engines supporting at least one or two models.

However, we're still waiting on Primaris eradicators, bladeguard, the new captain, etc, which could have some of the kits used in the new kill team box instead :(

We're still waiting for the Adepta Sororitas Palatine to be released and a Sanctuary 101 themed Kill Team box with Necrons and Sisters would be a nice throwback to the Necrons first White Dwarf battle report.

 Ghaz wrote:
We're still waiting for the Adepta Sororitas Palatine to be released and a Sanctuary 101 themed Kill Team box with Necrons and Sisters would be a nice throwback to the Necrons first White Dwarf battle report.

The Palatine is coming in a battle box with the new Lelith.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
We're still waiting for the Adepta Sororitas Palatine to be released and a Sanctuary 101 themed Kill Team box with Necrons and Sisters would be a nice throwback to the Necrons first White Dwarf battle report.

The Palatine is coming in a battle box with the new Lelith.

Spoiler:

I recall that now that you mention it. Still would have been a nice Kill Team box...

So my guess

killteam
inquisition(divine) vs necrons(dead)

40k
probably just look at next codexs, I have the least expectations for this section

titanicus
titan in legio mortis (dead) scheme

aos
lumineth (divine)
tease of vampire counts (dead)

mystery game
warhammer quest with vampire hunter, stormcast archer+ priest and a few of the other human knives and swords vs bunch of undead which will lead into vampires proper with maybe werewolf as main villain.

Ecchlisiarchy fits more of the "divine" than Inquisition, and we know they're definitely coming.

I'm guessing this event will reveal all the Christmas rumor engines, or at least a lot of them. They probably saw they got some backlash from the last few reveals being small, and will make up for it with this one. However, I hope they didn't get too much spoiled already, since I imagine a few people will gripe about seeing this revealed again, despite them only being revealed early due to leaks (though the gazelle aelf and Underworlds leader could have still been kept secret till Saturday)

 Mothman wrote:
So my guess

killteam
inquisition(divine) vs necrons(dead)

40k
probably just look at next codexs, I have the least expectations for this section

titanicus
titan in legio mortis (dead) scheme

aos
lumineth (divine)
tease of vampire counts (dead)

mystery game
warhammer quest with vampire hunter, stormcast archer+ priest and a few of the other human knives and swords vs bunch of undead which will lead into vampires proper with maybe werewolf as main villain.

I'd agree with that guess.

why must it allways be blacklegion,.....

Gald for the SoB though.

Odd, what are CSM doing in there?

Hopefully CSM are there for a codex announcement alongside Sisters, but more likely to just be generic baddies I guess. Focus is clearly on SoB there. Fingers crossed!

I'm just suddenly panicking that the Kill Team box will be CSM instead of Necrons.

Sweet, stained glass mural. My Chaos Warband has to find where it is in the galaxy and loot it for their battle barge.

Not Online!!! wrote:
why must it allways be blacklegion,.....

Gald for the SoB though.

Probably rhetorical, but in universe if one is going to encounter a CSM warband, it is far more likely to be Black Legion than any other. Out of universe, Black Legion are the chosen box art faction and unfortunately that means a very high skew that all art uses them instead of any other Chaos Legion. I don't know the Sisters of Battle subfactions, but I am willing to bet the one featured in that are is also the same as the chosen box art subfaction. That's just how most GW art works now. I am not a fan even if I have 3 factions (1 40k, 2 AoS) that are painted the same way. It makes the universe seem much smaller for little reason.

Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

Just wondering, there's been a lot of announcements this week such as the Bladeguard, will the show tomorrow actually announce anything new besides the Titanicus stuff, or will they just be going over what we've already seen in more detail?

zamerion wrote:

So, my question is:

What is the heavy bolter sister listening to on her headphones?
Enya, or My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult?

Voss wrote:

What is the heavy bolter sister listening to on her headphones?
Enya, or My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult?

"Don't stop me now" by Queen.


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 Valkyrie wrote:
Just wondering, there's been a lot of announcements this week such as the Bladeguard, will the show tomorrow actually announce anything new besides the Titanicus stuff, or will they just be going over what we've already seen in more detail?

Looks like a new game is going to be announced tomorrow. What it is, nobody knows.




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 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm just suddenly panicking that the Kill Team box will be CSM instead of Necrons.

At worst they'll be a faction set. They've been teasing the Indomitus stuff so far, so I wouldn't worry.

Welp, chances for them announcing the Adepta Sororitas V9 codex saturday just rose up !

Nice artwork, though. Guess it will appear in their preview video.

Not Online!!! wrote:
why must it allways be blacklegion,.....

Because they're the emblematic generic heretics.

 Valkyrie wrote:
Just wondering, there's been a lot of announcements this week such as the Bladeguard, will the show tomorrow actually announce anything new besides the Titanicus stuff, or will they just be going over what we've already seen in more detail?

The Bladeguard have been known about for some time as coming with the Dark Angels supplement...which was to be a January release.
The Lumineth Wind Temple cavalry and Vampire Lord got leaked--they replied to it. They also added the Vanari Lord-Regent to the mix. We know there's a character variant of the Vanari Lord-Regent and there's at least the Wind Temple Mage still to be shown.
There's the Kill Team stuff to get previewed.
Whatever the "?" is, the full Underworlds warband, the 40k stuff, the Titanicus stuff, and the rest of the Age of Sigmar stuff as well.

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

I dunno. Three-model kits just bother me- the model to dollar value is going to be really terrible.
Plus, the options available are kind of... meh? And the sheer impracticality of the giant holsters and the shields on the backpacks. Seriously, SM arms don't articulate that way- there is no way for a Bladeguard to get a shield off his backpack, beyond a 'magnetic release' and a lightning fast anime-style 'spin and pose.'

Still, it is nice to see another piece of the backlog get checked off.

They’ll be at least $83AUD, (following other similar 3 model kits) which is hilarious for 3 duders.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm just suddenly panicking that the Kill Team box will be CSM instead of Necrons.

Just... give me my Chronomancer please.

Not Online!!! wrote:
why must it allways be blacklegion,.....

Gald for the SoB though.

Because gw wants to promote their models, and they've made 99% of all CSM models look like Black Legion.

At least this could mean we finally hear something about the new CSM codex. Please remember the other Legions gw, please.

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

Is that 8 bloody power swords in one kit

Voss wrote:

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

I dunno. Three-model kits just bother me- the model to dollar value is going to be really terrible.
Plus, the options available are kind of... meh? And the sheer impracticality of the giant holsters and the shields on the backpacks. Seriously, SM arms don't articulate that way- there is no way for a Bladeguard to get a shield off his backpack, beyond a 'magnetic release' and a lightning fast anime-style 'spin and pose.'

Still, it is nice to see another piece of the backlog get checked off.

I like the sword and board idea but agree - esp when you are using mag locks for the shield - why bother with a holster. Been cool to have a gun/shield hand/arm but It won't be hard to glue it to the gun arm I guess. Apparently theyere are different options for left and right gun/sword/shield hands so thats cool

I think shield-bearer thralls would have been a great option. Thematic and avoids the whole “can’t physically reach my own backpack” problem. Just treat them as token models like familiars.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I think shield-bearer thralls would have been a great option. Thematic and avoids the whole “can’t physically reach my own backpack” problem. Just treat them as token models like familiars.

Sounds very cool - might be some good conversions.

Thralls are really unexplored in 40k - be cool to have them in the game as something actually new but in lore for the Astartes. We know that some Chapters use their thralls more in combat than others.

Thralls would be fantastic for marines. Maybe make them combat units for some chapters and support units for others?

It would be really cool to see something new in the marine line that isn't just "A new marine with a sword" or a "a new marine with a gun."

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I think shield-bearer thralls would have been a great option. Thematic and avoids the whole “can’t physically reach my own backpack” problem. Just treat them as token models like familiars.

I was going to say they got battle buddies, but I like your idea of servitor/thrall squires more. Unfortunately, I don't really trust GW not give something like rules for the sake of having rules on models. I still haven't glued down my Chaos Sorcerer in Terminator armor because I still think someday they might make it wargear again. Much rather just kit bash something and inform my opponent they do absolutely nothing in game. I already have a couple of servo skulls as tokens that are like that with terrain. They are just there as decoration and for the non-turn player to move around the table if they get bored.

Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

I'm baffled by some of the way parts fit together there. I know quite a few of their recent kits have been fairly limited with pose-ability and such because of how things are modelled, but it's got to the point where for some reason you've got the front half of a torso, belt pouches, a single knee and a lower leg without a complete foot together as a single part? I just don't get how doing the parts like that makes any sense. Even more so when it seems to result in 3 very similarly posed and detailed miniatures, other than the arms and head.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

I'm baffled by some of the way parts fit together there. I know quite a few of their recent kits have been fairly limited with pose-ability and such because of how things are modelled, but it's got to the point where for some reason you've got the front half of a torso, belt pouches, a single knee and a lower leg without a complete foot together as a single part? I just don't get how doing the parts like that makes any sense. Even more so when it seems to result in 3 very similarly posed and detailed miniatures, other than the arms and head.

It's to ensure you can't do gak with those parts other than use them for exactly what GW wants you to

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Isengrim wrote:
Bladeguard veteran pre-orders going up on the 30th.

Looks like an amazing kit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/22/unboxing-the-new-bladeguard-veterans/

I'm baffled by some of the way parts fit together there. I know quite a few of their recent kits have been fairly limited with pose-ability and such because of how things are modelled, but it's got to the point where for some reason you've got the front half of a torso, belt pouches, a single knee and a lower leg without a complete foot together as a single part? I just don't get how doing the parts like that makes any sense. Even more so when it seems to result in 3 very similarly posed and detailed miniatures, other than the arms and head.

That is, straight up, the physics of making hot plastic squeeze into a giant block of steel in action. The parts are like that so you can get all the detail the model should have without compromising the sculpt with big ol’ plane slices and filled in undercuts.

You could do basically the same pose as a single piece but you’d end up with lots of places with little or no detail and what detail there’s sort of smeared. They don’t want to do that and with their parting software they don’t have to, so they aren’t.

 Sabotage! wrote:
Thralls would be fantastic for marines. Maybe make them combat units for some chapters and support units for others?

It would be really cool to see something new in the marine line that isn't just "A new marine with a sword" or a "a new marine with a gun."

I would love a servants pack with a mix of servitors, gun servitors, chapter serfs and reload servo skulls with various ammo types.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Well definitely Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard. Not sure how much Aggressors and Dreads walk into that territory. Reivers we can just kinda laugh at.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Well definitely Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard. Not sure how much Aggressors and Dreads walk into that territory. Reivers we can just kinda laugh at.

Incursers are insulted you remembered Reivers (even if just to laugh at them), but forgot the Incursers.

Quite shameful that the kit includes only three shields. Lots of nice bits otherwise, but this kit should have had at least one spare shield.

 alextroy wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Well definitely Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard. Not sure how much Aggressors and Dreads walk into that territory. Reivers we can just kinda laugh at.

Incursers are insulted you remembered Reivers (even if just to laugh at them), but forgot the Incursers.

Are those the ones with the magic anti-cover rifles or the magic hit again on 6s rifles? Woops. Auto-wound on 6.

Voss wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Well definitely Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard. Not sure how much Aggressors and Dreads walk into that territory. Reivers we can just kinda laugh at.

Incursers are insulted you remembered Reivers (even if just to laugh at them), but forgot the Incursers.

Are those the ones with the magic anti-cover rifles or the magic hit again on 6s rifles?

They are the ones with the dual combat blades... and the magic anti-cover rifles

 alextroy wrote:

Voss wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Not enough Skulls....

Come on GW, YOU ARE SLACKING!!!!!

I would just like to see something other then a useless additional Space Marine. They are now to the point where they are now specializing in turning off the faucet, and others in just doing the dishes.

How many melee specialist units Primaris Marines now have? Three?

Well definitely Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard. Not sure how much Aggressors and Dreads walk into that territory. Reivers we can just kinda laugh at.

Incursers are insulted you remembered Reivers (even if just to laugh at them), but forgot the Incursers.

Are those the ones with the magic anti-cover rifles or the magic hit again on 6s rifles?

They are the ones with the dual combat blades.

The blades that got nerfed to only -1 AP and no bonus attacks.
I'm not sure they count as a melee unit anymore. At least not by SM codex standards.

Well, only a few hours to go...

Todaaaaay's the daaaay

In about an hour

Everyone ready for massive disappointment? I AM!

Already like alot of whats been shown so no.

We know the stuff is cool. Probably the major source of disappointment is (again) not being shown enough stuff.

I just really hope they show the Wind temple spirit and the blademaster elfs! Plez, GW, plez!

I want Orks and Inquisition

I'm ready for models and excitement and cool stuff!!!!

With all the stuff they have been showing all week, I’m curious what they saved for today. Because honestly, what they have already shown would fill up a show.

 Nevelon wrote:
With all the stuff they have been showing all week, I’m curious what they saved for today. Because honestly, what they have already shown would fill up a show.

Rest of the Soulblight Warband is one thing

Seeing i'm not expecting hundreds of kits like some hard to be disapointed.　i am preparing to get good laughs when certain people will complain about preview. Best part of previews

Everyone settled in?

tneva82 wrote:
Seeing i'm not expecting hundreds of kits like some hard to be disapointed.　i am preparing to get good laughs when certain people will complain about preview. Best part of previews

Given how they have a literal year of rumour engines to catch up on, it would be expected they'll finally make a worthwhile preview


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Also it begiiins

Also if the best bit of a hobby announcement is "laughing at people for complaining" you might be in it for the wrong reasons

tneva82 wrote:
Seeing i'm not expecting hundreds of kits like some hard to be disapointed.　i am preparing to get good laughs when certain people will complain about preview. Best part of previews

GW could preview an entire new xenos faction and a new HQ model for literally every army, and the focus would be on complaining about marines getting another Lt mini

Per the email.

Tell me that's not a Centurion Sister in the middle?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
With all the stuff they have been showing all week, I’m curious what they saved for today. Because honestly, what they have already shown would fill up a show.

Rest of the Soulblight Warband is one thing

I mean, all the stuff they’ve show off?
One Soulblight. One Underworlds model. And a couple of the Lumineth bits.
What else?

Tell me that's not a Centurion Sister in the middle?

If its as bad as the Marine version be the first Sister model I won't buy.

Hopefully they will actually talk about releases soon ....

Guys, the preview show starts at 2pm BST/9amEST. This isn't new.

Freaking Sisters of Battle Terminators!

Ok that looks crap - :( I thought the GK Babycarrier was bad :(

Sisters Dreadknight lmao

Well those are rather ace!

Not a sisters player. But they’re alright.

Well that's a rumour engine solved at least.

I rather like them!

Not my cup of tea, but a great base for further conversion by those who are that way inclined

Damn live feed isn't working for me on the community page

 Mr Morden wrote:
Ok that looks crap - :(

Don’t worry, it’s okay to be wrong.

So it is SoB Centurions. And they look just as terrible than the Marine ones.

Sis-turions.

HORRIBLE Dreadknight Sisters, what the hell did they have in mind?

 Crimson wrote:
So it is SoB Centurions. And they look just as terrible than the Marine ones.

The Emperor weeps as he sees these

THE BABY CARRIER STRIKES AGAIN

Well, my first thought was "oh, Infinity style battlesuits for Sisters... okay". If you play Sisters and like this: good for you. Not for me - but not my army anyway.

Kind of weirdly annoyed by CSM in the stained glass window: the Imperium would never put THE ARCHENEMY into a public place. Those CSM shown? They don't exist! Anyway... moving on!

Will likely be adding squad or two depending on points/euro's these cost whenever these gets released.

But will these just be on their own or part of supplement?

The issue is, do the legs have something in them as they’re a bit too long?
I can’t quite make it out?

Not terrible models, I can see myself using them. They're fancy penitent engines.

I'd personally have preferred SoB-ized assault terminators, though.

They look terrible, why did sisters NEED something like that? Thay have Penitent Engines for this style, these things just aren't needed.

Danny76 wrote:
The issue is, do the legs have something in them as they’re a bit too long?
I can’t quite make it out?

They are wierd - not sure how the feet works.

Maybe there is a way to salvage them but just filled with disapointment at the moment.

Ah well hopefully the Soulblight will be better - !!

warl0rdb0b wrote:
Damn live feed isn't working for me on the community page

It should be working on the main page, it's borked on the Reveal article. You can also, if watching on Twitch, swap it over to Theatre mode and minimize the chat/recommendations and stuff.

I'm waiting for the reveals to have images to add them to the OP.

Kill Team next

Not really a fan, but I'm happy for those Sister players who would like to add them.

warl0rdb0b wrote:
They look terrible, why did sisters NEED something like that? Thay have Penitent Engines for this style, these things just aren't needed.

Nice to have a heavy assault suit piloted by someone in good favour rather than a suicide sinner.

Honestly a centurion style armature makes more sense for an unenhanced human than it did for marines.

On with the Necrons - nice models

It's a goddamn mini-Dreadknight that's hilariously terrible

NICE!

I want to know more on the box contents and the details (and price...), this is looking very promising though!


Edit: Scrap the "details" part.

A Kill Team boxed set with new miniatures? That's pretty unheard of. Some nice looking miniatures and a cool looking boxed set.

I'm liking the Necron terrain as well.

Doesn't seem like its a new Kill Team edition just another expansion probably just with all the new units

warl0rdb0b wrote:
They look terrible, why did sisters NEED something like that? Thay have Penitent Engines for this style, these things just aren't needed.

Same reason the necron release had so much duplication of roles, even just among the new stuff. 'Cool sculpt' trumps army design. Even when the sculpts are actually gakky or hilarious.

Well, nothing very new there. At least we know what Necron doors look like now…

Hope the Necron stuff is released separately before long.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It's a goddamn mini-Dreadknight that's hilariously terrible

It's worse than that. Look at how her legs meet her human torso. She'd be in agony.

It's a dumb design.

Pariah Nexus box looks great, I just hope they don't do a Catacombs and price it too high

Lmao, locking flayed ones and heavy intercessors behind a killteam boxset ... gj GW

The new box will be 'first chance to grab' the heavy intercessors. feth! I assume this will mean they will not be sold separate initially. I've been waiting them for months!

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
Lmao, locking flayed ones and heavy intercessors behind a killteam boxset ... gj GW

Tbh it's not like that's not a precedent

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
Lmao, locking flayed ones and heavy intercessors behind a killteam boxset ... gj GW

That's fairly normal for new models...Remember lots of stuff from indominatus/starter sets are still locked.

Years old practice. What did you expect? You get them separately later.

 Sabotage! wrote:
A Kill Team boxed set with new miniatures? That's pretty unheard of. Some nice looking miniatures and a cool looking boxed set.

I'm liking the Necron terrain as well.

Wasn't the Rogue Trader box all new models?

The fact they are mainly talking about the minis in 40k armies instead of Kill Team tells me there isn't any new rules in this box just new unit profiles

tneva82 wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
Lmao, locking flayed ones and heavy intercessors behind a killteam boxset ... gj GW

That's fairly normal for new models...Remember lots of stuff from indominatus/starter sets are still locked.

Years old practice. What did you expect? You get them separately later.

im still waiting on oblits, greater demons and venomcrawler....

Ugh. Kill Team: Catacombs, big starter price for a half assed box with a sprue of plastic doors for terrain.

Poor mods having to work fast on the twitch chat - some guy tried to start gak about the term "baby carrier" being sexist and got piled on by everyone pointing out that's what we called it when the dreadknight originally came out, all getting exterminatused

 Matrindur wrote:
The fact they are mainly talking about the minis in 40k armies instead of Kill Team tells me there isn't any new rules in this box just new unit profiles

or that theyre talking about the marines only and ignoring the flayed ones,....

My initial impression of the warsuit wasn't great but I have to say it's growing on me now that I've seen the detailed pics.

That Sisters mini-walker, are the shoulder weapons twin heavy bolters? If so, 2 twin heavy bolters, a multi-melta, and some kind of super power sword is a decent loadout.

 Ghaz wrote:

Ah good, someone actually posted an image of it.

Where are her legs? Other than that, probably just a bit too agile looking for an imperial walker.

Bigger than a Warlord!! That new AT Titan is awesome!!!! And its not even an Imperator

AT Warmaster Titan.

Arrrrgh! My wallet!

I adore that Titan.

Wow, I'm a Titanicus player, but man that's a cool looking monster of a miniature.

That Titan!

Warmaster Titan - looks interesting - as people thought mini Imperator?

Rocket battery on the carapace

feth me that's an awesome Titan

Ha! Hilarious presentation, loving it!

What a beast. Redefining the term "overarmed"!

It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

Chikout wrote:
It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

You're right with helmets they look way better, but in turn that arm looks way to thin compared to that gun

 Sabotage! wrote:
Not really a fan, but I'm happy for those Sister players who would like to add them.

Am a sisters player, not a fan either.

Hoping that the bizzare proportions are just GWs usual lack of being able to take a good photo of their models. It looks like the anorexic child of the GK baby carrier and a misguided 54mm inquisitor kitbash.

New book too - guessing compilation of old rules as well as new ones for Warmaster etc

Loyalist legios book has the Warmaster with turbo lasers in it’s shoulders

Sad that AT has finally joined the "glue guns on every surface of the model" bandwagon of 40k design.

 Mr Morden wrote:
New book too - guessing compilation of old rules as well as new ones for Warmaster etc

Statement is rules+background for Knight Houses and Legios and Maniples, etc for Loyalists plus the Warmaster.

 Matrindur wrote:

Chikout wrote:
It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

You're right with helmets they look way better, but in turn that arm looks way to thin compared to that gun

I doubt sisters arm is in that arm. Arm is just something to hold the gun to the suit.

Is Adam Troke aware that there are other words to signal agreement than his one-size-fits-all "absolutely"? This must have meme status somewhere by now...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Sad that AT has finally joined the "glue guns on every surface of the model" bandwagon of 40k design.

You never saw the Imperator did you - nor the old Ork Megagargant

Heck the Imperator has shin-guns a crotch gun and a castle on top with tower guns and turret guns and that was at the old Epic scale without tiny tiny guns that the new warlords have and such - guns everywhere!!

tneva82 wrote:

I doubt sisters arm is in that arm. Arm is just something to hold the gun to the suit.

Correct. If you look, you can see a control stick in her actual hands that have linkages to the arms.

tneva82 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Chikout wrote:
It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

You're right with helmets they look way better, but in turn that arm looks way to thin compared to that gun

I doubt sisters arm is in that arm. Arm is just something to hold the gun to the suit.

I know, you can see the sisters arm sticking out of the chest in those controllers but it still looks wrong to me compared to the gun but could just be the perspective

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
New book too - guessing compilation of old rules as well as new ones for Warmaster etc

Statement is rules+background for Knight Houses and Legios and Maniples, etc for Loyalists plus the Warmaster.

which i was why I wondered if it compiled all those from the other books I already have

AHHHHHHHHH THE FOX SPIRIT!

That's a whole lot of new Lumineth stuff coming.

Sword/Blademasters in there plus a huge banner

 Matrindur wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Chikout wrote:
It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

You're right with helmets they look way better, but in turn that arm looks way to thin compared to that gun

I doubt sisters arm is in that arm. Arm is just something to hold the gun to the suit.

I know, you can see the sisters arm sticking out of the chest in those controllers but it still looks wrong to me compared to the gun but could just be the perspective

the arms do look a bit spindly.

I spy a Bolt Thrower...

Flying foxgoat archer!

More goat/fox/something elves... skip.

That's someone's fursona

changemod wrote:

Spoiler:

 Ghaz wrote:

Ah good, someone actually posted an image of it.

Where are her legs? Other than that, probably just a bit too agile looking for an imperial walker.

Ripley called to say she'd _never_ wear that hair style. Also, it kinda undermines the tension of the scene if the powerlifter has 3 guns and a sword on it.


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Kill Team box.
Ok, interesting. Not surprised its going to keep the kits exclusive for a while.
I'm gonna laugh if those are mono-pose heavy intercessors and the real kit is an even longer wait though.

5 flayed ones vs heavy intercessors just seems... unfair.

Billicus wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Chikout wrote:
It’s amazing the difference adding a helmet makes. Gw models often straddle the line between cool and ridiculous. In this case the two version of the kit stand either side of the line. Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

You're right with helmets they look way better, but in turn that arm looks way to thin compared to that gun

I doubt sisters arm is in that arm. Arm is just something to hold the gun to the suit.

I know, you can see the sisters arm sticking out of the chest in those controllers but it still looks wrong to me compared to the gun but could just be the perspective

the arms do look a bit spindly.

Its all an awful mess

The Fox-antelope archer spirit is cool

Voss wrote:
I'm gonna laugh if those are mono-pose heavy intercessors and the real kit is an even longer wait though.

They directly said it's the full kits for both. Not sure how well known GW is for lying - and having it on tape.

Like the Paragon Warsuit less the more I see, but the goat-fox archer definitely makes me more interested in Lumineth.

 Sabotage! wrote:
That's a whole lot of new Lumineth stuff coming.

Potentially 7. Unit+hero+spirit(following stone) for wind+water and the mounted hero.

Can't wait. ATM it's basically 3 lists to play with lumineth.

 Darnok wrote:

Voss wrote:
I'm gonna laugh if those are mono-pose heavy intercessors and the real kit is an even longer wait though.

They directly said it's the full kits for both. Not sure how well known GW is for lying - and having it on tape.

Sorry, I'm not listening to the stream, just going by what's on the page, where it isn't mentioned.

Voss wrote:
5 flayed ones vs heavy intercessors just seems... unfair.

Not the first time they’ve sold a box with equal numbers of primaris and some unit that would have maybe been balanced against pre-two wound update marines.

It’s pretty noticeable that they’re selling a horde melee unit in boxes of five though, again.

Complaints in the chat already.
“Is that all we get for a preview. Shadows of models”

I mean, we would have had more, but it got spoiled early.
And we still have the vampire reveals to come..

changemod wrote:

Voss wrote:
5 flayed ones vs heavy intercessors just seems... unfair.

Not the first time they’ve sold a box with equal numbers of primaris and some unit that would have maybe been balanced against pre-two wound update marines.

It’s pretty noticeable that they’re selling a horde melee unit in boxes of five though, again.

Kill Team tends to be half-sized boxes not full.

New Daughters of Khaine battletome...

Awesome new snake cover on the Daughters of Khaine new battletome

AND BLOOD SNAKE!!!

and Endless spells great snake spell (Bloodwrack Viper)

Ohh blood snake goodness

 Ghaz wrote:
New Daughters of Khaine battletome...

The new cover art will attract a lot fewer awkward stares on the bus.

Vampiretastic

Absolutely in love with the Crimson Court.

I think that's the best Warband they've done yet!

Oh... wow.
Despite my dislike for pop culture vampires, those are _amazing_.

Nope, no backwards complaint here. Just

Oh man, those new Vampires are sick.

VAMPIRES!

It's not that I need any more vampires on foot for my WHF collection... but I want them!

Oh yes, Vampires we have been waiting for.

The vampires are great.

I really didn't like that fox spirit - it really suffers from having a big hole in the middle of the model. Making the streams more focused and having them pop out the top would have worked far better.

Groovy. Looking forward to seeing vampires on opposite side in AOS if they look anywhere as good as these.

 Overread wrote:
Awesome new snake cover on the Daughters of Khaine new battletome

AND BLOOD SNAKE!!!

Not a fan of the paint job. I mean, Blood for the Blood God exists, guys!

Oh, bloody hell, those vampires are fantastic.

The lady is the weakest link, so I was worried by that preview, but they really brought it back

Those Vampires are fantastic.

Those vamps are so so good.

Old boy with the giant mace doesn't make loads of martial sense to me, shaft is a bit long for that, I'd swap the mace head for a halberd. Really nice miniature though

The stiff one needs a scythe conversion. Prince and the winged one are great.

Daughters of Khaine is coming out alongside the Hedonites of Slaanesh, in case anyone hasn't caught that yet.

Billicus wrote:
Old boy with the giant mace doesn't make loads of martial sense to me, shaft is a bit long for that, I'd swap the mace head for a halberd. Really nice miniature though

It's probably useful for getting a nice long reach to hit the head of a passing stardragon

I get the vibe that it's supposed to display just how supernaturally powerful he is that he can wield that effectively

 Kanluwen wrote:
Daughters of Khaine is coming out alongside the Hedonites of Slaanesh, in case anyone hasn't caught that yet.

My wallet is screaming in pain eps after shadow and pain.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The stiff one needs a scythe conversion. Prince and the winged one are great.

The winged one even has both feet on the ground!

Haven't seen that in possibly literally a decade from GW.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
I get the vibe that it's supposed to display just how supernaturally powerful he is that he can wield that effectively

Yeah. Impractical weapons work for vampires for me. They have the strength and reflexes to use them, and the lifespan to get bored enough of mundane weapons!

And there it is! Warhammer Quest: Cursed City

Warhammer Quest: Cursed City animation.

Interesting gaggle of heroes at the gate. Lots of... stuff... piled on the backs of the zombies? thralls? in the street scenes.

HA! Was right on the money with Warhammer Quest: Ravenloft

Ooooohhhhh my poor, poor bank balance!

More like Warhammer Quest: Mordheim amirite?

Warhammer Quest returns!!!!

*Throws money at screen for new warhammer quest*

I really like the stuff in the Kill Team expansion. I barely caught that segment, but I didn't see anything that wouldn't get direct use from me. I am just concerned it's going to be like $200+. I still remember the first Kill Team box that only came out 2.5 years and only went for $130.

The Lumineth are going to continue burn a hole in my wallet. I like everything I have seen for them, but I know they are going to be crazy expensive like a good portion of the other Lumineth. I am going to have force myself at some point to figure out how I am going to completely paint them.

The Daughters of Khaine stuff looks good. The snake seems a little static to me, but I think they still look nice.

The vampire band has some really nice models. I would have to say the ones previewed before now are the weakest for me. The ones they are showing now are way better. I am still not that interested in them, but I hope they recharge others interest in them.

That new Warhammer Quest looks dope. Like Castlevannia with a team of hunters and a wolf lord as Dracula. I think I am in.

NEW QUEST WITH AN AWESOME THEME! Can't Wait!

And that Vampire Hunter.....dreamy!

I wish they'd show the whole set!

New Warhammer Quest, and with a great theme. Loving every last bit they show so far!

Excuse me, while I need to change my undies...

Very interested in more WH Quest. My friends and I enjoyed Blackstone Fortress quite a lot.

Well. Good preview for me. Sooner or later will get sisters, necrons, lumineth, titan and looking forward to seeing vampires and witch hunters in AOS eventually.

So no vampirates then. The hook and plank is for a gravedigger with a wacky mask.


Witch hunter has maybe one too many layers of gear. Makes the model look busy rather than prepared.

Chikout wrote:
Not sure about the new Titan. The silhouette of the warlord is better.

I like that it's less elegant and more hunched than the Warlord. Reminds me of Mechwarrior, some of the mechs were elegant, some like the Atlas etc were far more ogrish and less refined. I wasn't super keen on the look of this new titan for the first minute but it grew on me very quickly.

The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

What are you referencing? The preview image from today? We've seen everything from it.

 Darnok wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

What are you referencing? The preview image from today? We've seen everything from it.

Warhammer Quest - likely to be a mixed bunch - the old box had a Chaos Warrior as well as the others

 Darnok wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

What are you referencing? The preview image from today? We've seen everything from it.

No, the Warhammer Quest trailer.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

Ogre I think

Good stuff. Quite the huge nod to Cadwallon/Confrontation with the witch hunter, an aesthetic I did not expect GW to follow so closely. Will definitely be picking up the new Warhammer Quest.

And quite the low blow to get me into Kill Team. Flayed Ones, the Chronomancer and terrain? Plus more Primaris? Yep, I’m in.

Not a huge fan of the High Elves in general, but that Fox-God miniature is exquisite.

And dreadnought suits for my SoB. Very happy with this direction.

Ah, got it.

 Darnok wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The hero silhouettes also had a Kharadron, Orc(?) and Kurnothi Elf?

What are you referencing? The preview image from today? We've seen everything from it.

The WHQ video. There are a group of heroes at the gates of the Cursed City. The witch hunter, and three others- elf, dwarf and maybe orc. Or ogre.

I’m very happy with that preview. Very excited for the next few months.

https://ageofsigmar.com/cursed-city/

Warhammer Quest website

8 heroes and 5 enemy leaders

If there was a ring modelled on to the Vampire “Prince” model from the warband then it would have been a perfect plastic Vlad von Carstein

Not and Orc. What's the big guy?

For those who watched the feed, did they confirm if new WHQ is solo friendly like Blackstone or needs a GM like the last sigmar WHQs?

Aeneades wrote:
For those who watched the feed, did they confirm if new WHQ is solo friendly like Blackstone or needs a GM like the last sigmar WHQs?

Adam Troke said he’s pretty sure it is.

This was a rather interesting reveal session! Nothing stood out as particularily horrible.

And I will get new KillTeam, but also will get the Hvy Interecessors I've been waiting for anyways! Great stuff

I do hope we'll get the rules for the new sisters suit also for KT.. I'd love to start a lil sisters KillTeam with the flying girls and one suit, like pictured in that promo artwork in the reveal video.

Ecstatic for the new WQ - insta-buy. I do hope they provide stats for the Crimson Court Underworlds warband as immediate extra adversaries out of the box as well.

You want those hot new Heavy Intercessors?

Have a Kill Team boxed set you don't want to get them.

GW never fails to impress.

Ok so I want it all. No joke I want it all pretty much!!


New Killteam updating my Necrons
New AT Titan that looks super awesome
New DoK Battletome (which is coming in February along with Slaanesh and will both drain my wallet) - and finally Endless spells

New Warhammer Quest which looks super fun with the two preview models and is something I'm really going to have to buy into and not pass over like I did with Blackstone.



And those new Sisters of Battle and Lumineth make me want both armies in the future


YEP Super awesome preview!

The prior Quests were before they’d got the pattern down.
With the success of BSF. This is just the fantasy version.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
For those who watched the feed, did they confirm if new WHQ is solo friendly like Blackstone or needs a GM like the last sigmar WHQs?

Adam Troke said he’s pretty sure it is.

Thanks!

Aeneades wrote:
For those who watched the feed, did they confirm if new WHQ is solo friendly like Blackstone or needs a GM like the last sigmar WHQs?

I didn't hear anything about the new version particularly but Adam Troke was comparing it to BSF and talking about how it was really nice to be able to play it solo during lock down and Eddie mentioned how it's nice to have a cooperative game. Based on that I'm guessing it will be like Blackstone and can be Coop or Solo, but I don't think it's been confirmed.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You want those hot new Heavy Intercessors?

Have a Kill Team boxed set you don't want to get them.

GW never fails to impress.

Yeah save for the individual boxes that are going on sale soon after.... Plus considering most duel army boxed sets and such are often sold at discount; provided there's enough stock you'll get cheaper than retail Intercessors secondhand on ebay on the sprue or even just get the box and sell off the parts you don't want. I'm sure there will be a lot of necron and marine players swapping half sets of models from the box. So its not doom and gloom

The Heavy Intercessors will likely be released separately in full kit alongside the DA codex in February.

No Orks again, and merely a tease of the Warhammer Quest. Kind of lame.

Omegalul at that sisters model.

If the new WQ is more like Blastone Fortress and less like Shadows of Hammerhal I'll be happy. Was disappointed by Hammerhal after how great Silver Tower was.

I am impressed with that preview show. There were a number of things I am very interested in. Even the stuff I wasn't, I thought it looked really good. I think I want to work a little harder to clear off some painting projects to make room for some new stuff coming out.

This is going to get seriously expensive. 100% in for Cursed City.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You want those hot new Heavy Intercessors?

Have a Kill Team boxed set you don't want to get them.

GW never fails to impress.

Buy the box, sell off the necron half, terrain and rules, and you will end up getting the Hvy Interecessors cheaper than retail. Whats the big fuss about?

They already said it'll be a multipart sprue, so it'll have all the extra bits and weapon options as the separate boxes coming later. You'll also be able to customize the shoulderpads with a chapter upg sprue if thats your thing.

Those vamps and the new WQ have just made my day! Can't wait to see what else is in the box for Cursed City!

As previews go that was a pretty good one. Some really excellent things coming out for a lot of games. My only gripe is that the Lumineth showcase was frustrating as we actually only saw one model (as awesome as it was) I would have liked to see the rest of the Aelves as well especially the (not) Swordmasters

Two thumbs up from me overall!

I don't play or collect Sisters, so have no dog in that fight. Not a big fan of those new battlesuits, but they're not terrible either. Far away from Babycarrier/Centurion level of terribad!

The KT box is a nice one. Depending on price I might just get it, despite not collecting Necrons.

The new titan is an impressive monster, I just dread its price. I doubt I'll get the model anytime soon, but I love it.

I could not care less about the AoS reveals - but for those who like the respective armies: good stuff! I do like the look of the Endless Spells, but really have no use for them...

... in stark contrast to the WH:U vampires! I need at least two boxes, one for my VC army, one for actually playing WH:U with. Loving the set!

Same for the WHQ thing. We have seen only a little bit so far, and I already love it. I need it, yesterday!

Thank you GW for an anjoyable hour, looking forward to handing much cash to you soon!

 lord_blackfang wrote:


Not and Orc. What's the big guy?

Looks like an Ogre to me

So it looks like the Cursed City has it's own website and it confirms there are

6 Heroes for the Good Guys
5 Leaders for the Bad Guys

It also has a cool kind of interactive map where you can scope out various sections of the city (which I imagine will quest locations).

From the video it looks like we have:
Witch Hunter
Some sort of Sylvaneth/Wanderer Archer
Looks like a Kharadon Inventor or something
An Ogre

The Main Vampire
The Gravelord guy
Some sort of female vampire/boss of some sort
Armored Skeletons
Brigands or Vampire Thralls
Zombies that have chunks of earth/masonry attached

From the map there is also a section called "Gheistgale"
That mentions only the spectral dead will go near it, so I'm guessing some sort of Nighthaunt too?

Edit: Also a section mentioned being Bat-infested, so I imagine we will see some fell bats, bat swarms or some sort of varghulf type things.

It could also be a Kurnothi instead of a Wanderer.

The silhouette standing in for the heroes on the WHQ page matches the guy sitting on the throne at the start of the video. Both the sword and the fur on his left shoulder fit. So... is he a good or a bad guy?

Pretty nice mix of things today. Little bit of something for every system.

Price as always is going to be the biggest determining factor for me.

Cursed City will probably be my top priority. The preview text mentions a revised and refined rule system which gets me curious. I'd love to see a return to gaining loot and levels, but their mention of "refined" makes me think more streamlined and abstracted gameplay. At the very least I figure it'll build on what we saw with Blackstone Fortress, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

As silly as it is I really want the travel table or something similar to return.

Looking at the website, I'm wondering if the artwork of the people on the map represent some of the other bosses, since Gorslav is hanging out with them and they've all got their own shields that seem to represent one of the locations you can visit.

 Overread wrote:
It could also be a Kurnothi instead of a Wanderer.

Seems to have normal legs rather than the deer legs of the Kurnothi.

 Sabotage! wrote:
So it looks like the Cursed City has it's own website and it confirms there are

6 Heroes for the Good Guys
5 Leaders for the Bad Guys

It also has a cool kind of interactive map where you can scope out various sections of the city (which I imagine will quest locations).

From the video it looks like we have:
Witch Hunter
Some sort of Sylvaneth/Wanderer Archer
Looks like a Kharadon Inventor or something
An Ogre

The Main Vampire
The Gravelord guy
Some sort of female vampire/boss of some sort
Armored Skeletons
Brigands or Vampire Thralls
Zombies that have chunks of earth/masonry attached

From the map there is also a section called "Gheistgale"
That mentions only the spectral dead will go near it, so I'm guessing some sort of Nighthaunt too?

Edit: Also a section mentioned being Bat-infested, so I imagine we will see some fell bats, bat swarms or some sort of varghulf type things.

It says the Witcher hunter is 1/8 if you read his description. That would make it the same as Blackstone fortress.

 tauist wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
You want those hot new Heavy Intercessors?

Have a Kill Team boxed set you don't want to get them.

GW never fails to impress.

Buy the box, sell off the necron half, terrain and rules, and you will end up getting the Hvy Interecessors cheaper than retail. Whats the big fuss about?

They already said it'll be a multipart sprue, so it'll have all the extra bits and weapon options as the separate boxes coming later. You'll also be able to customize the shoulderpads with a chapter upg sprue if thats your thing.

IF... you can sell it since everyone will already be doing that.... see every other boxed set release... lol

JWBS wrote:
The Heavy Intercessors will likely be released separately in full kit alongside the DA codex in February.

Unlikely. Separate kits after kt. When you expect kt to be on sale?
It just got sneak　peaked...