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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/05 18:46:08


Post by: shasolenzabi


So, I seemed to have used a search engine in my pursuit of the oddball tanks out there to build for my collection for either 40k or just because I am a tread head. I am starting this thread to discuss these wild designs, or really cool tanks that are out there, and the search engine helped me accidentally raise a dead thread, and that is why the fresh discussion here. The thread I found regarded the discussion about the similarity between the Bauhaus Grizzly from the old Target Games Warzone game, and the Miyazaki art work turned model tank the Akuyaku 1Go with the pigs for crew. I did recently get and am building the MS-Igloo 2 Gravity Front E.F.G.F. M61A5 kit and that was sweet building! Working on painting it in my armies' livery, a real monster in size, it was only useable in games of Apocalypse scale battles. Also, so cool looking a tank that I just had to collect it!

The same goes for the Akuyaku, it is a huge kit for 1:72 scale, at 23.5cm according to Hobby Links Japan. http://www.hlj.com/product/TACTG-2 And will be a sweet deal with a few metal parts(Screws and a spring). The M61A5 had photo-etched parts and cost me about the same as a Forgeworld made kit! The price of the Akuyaku is cheaper by far, and looks to be a great kit to work with according to pics of the parts I have seen.







The treads look like they attach the big blades onto the flex-track and at the twice the size of the a Leman Russ tank is a big monster at 1:72 scale and would be huge at 1:48 scale. I have seen how huge the Grizzly from Warzone was, and well, if there were any, likely today would be more expensive. The details on the kits look awesome, and the pigs alone are are well worth it for the fun factor! I would like to get more input from others as to the kit and how others see it as a collectible item for their tank collections!




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So, any one out there know of any other odd tank designs I could find out there? I am always looking for such kits.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/06 09:35:18


Post by: shasolenzabi


shasolenzabi wrote:
So, any one out there know of any other odd tank designs I could find out there? I am always looking for such kits.


Nobody? no one has other wacky or unusual tank kits they have seen to discuss this or point me to?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/06 20:16:31


Post by: Clang


And Forgeworld's Grot tanks, if you like 'cute'.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/06 20:39:18


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Only about 50 bukcs for that huge tank?
I know what my apoc ork tanks are going to be made out of


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/06 22:35:13


Post by: Arson Fire


If you are looking for a bizarre real life tank, then take a look at this thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Tank


Unfortunately the only model I can find for it is rather expensive.

http://www.lfmodels.com/lebedenko-russian-tzar-tank-p-222.html?zenid=ag8rp66h4imfef2ght8kes4183


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/06 23:06:52


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, after selecting Fed Ex shipping it came out to about 82.90USD, But that is because I want it fast. I liked the little Russian marked oddballs, treads with outer wheels for stability!
The bigger tank looked like a converted train car!

Ah the Tricycle tank! THAT was a most oddball of tank designs. Yeah, figures that such an out of the usual model would get so much money asked for it, likely museum prices!

Orky-fied Akuyakus would also be amazing!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/07 08:58:48


Post by: winnertakesall


I need one 8| I dont know what I will use it for though xd


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/07 09:04:59


Post by: MiloticMaster


Maybe convert a t-rex!!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/07 10:53:30


Post by: shasolenzabi


I just found out the Akayaku 1 is 14cm or about 5.5inches wide, and the with the 23.5cm length makes it a decent size hull I have been looking for pics of the kit with something more familiar near it, say a Space Marine, or other 28mm mini to get a better size check . I likely will have to alter the machine guns to be Heavy Stuubbers, Heavy bolters and autocannons likely for the mid range guns. Main cannon may or may not need battle cannon beef up.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/08 08:42:46


Post by: shasolenzabi


Oh yes, I may have to something about enlarging some hatches if the Aku is to be used by my IG,. If not, I can make it a MegaGrotTank and keep the small hatches as they are.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/08 09:26:29


Post by: Ouze


Kilkrazy wrote:http://tobsen77.de/index.php?lan=en&show=gallery&id=11


Are these home-cast or a commercial kit?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/08 10:53:03


Post by: Kilkrazy


Home case but they are pretty good.

I have a bunch of the Monowheels for my IG army.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/09 00:40:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


Killkrazy, did you mold those little machine gun tanks yourself?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/10 00:58:47


Post by: shasolenzabi


It is on it's way! it is in transit as I type. soon this: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10049975a/20/1 will be in my hands! my friends are all going, "Great, he has another super-heavy to add to his collection!" My paint scheme will be what I call Highland Tundra, of shadow gray and Catachan Green with small black patches in between.

My T-350:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/shasolenzabi/4KIG/th_Superheavies004.jpg?t=1289351332

My T-290:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/shasolenzabi/4KIG/th_Superheavies001.jpg?t=1289351332

Modified Malcador from Char 1:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/shasolenzabi/4KIG/th_malcador003.jpg?t=1289351332


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/10 01:42:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


Cool looking stuff! I used to have some of the S.F.3d battle suits way back. Those used real wire bits and guitar string cables. I have guitar strings and those will likely replace the antennae on the Aku, just so they bounce back instead of snapping off.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/12 22:54:03


Post by: shasolenzabi


It has arrived! some of the hatches will need re-working, and the machine guns are just about Heavy stubber sized, need to clip the small barrels and then drill out a bigger bore for them. I may even have to gray stuff a main hatch cupola for the commander, all other rectangular hatches can be left as the type one would slither through, like the hatches on some of the early tanks and bombers. I will have to take the camera along to show my mods of the thing as I work on it.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/12 22:56:03


Post by: Kilkrazy


shasolenzabi wrote:Killkrazy, did you mold those little machine gun tanks yourself?


No. It is someone in Germany.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/13 09:52:52


Post by: shasolenzabi


Ah, Germany, okay. Those would be dollars to Euros then. Not like the old days when I used to exchange nicely for Deutschmarks!

I can't believe how fast that kit went together, and how low my new camera batteries were! I got one pic taken before the battery died, on 28mm soldier to show the relative size of the Akuyaku 1. As soon as the batteries are back up, I can take a pic of the finished kit with the first modification, some gray stuff and an old Leman Russ turret hatch.

Then will come the drilling of the machine guns to Heavy stubber bores. I will also take pics of the paint scheme I use for my tanks.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/15 18:57:49


Post by: Orinoco


Dude, keep us informed!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/15 19:35:54


Post by: Popsicle


That thing is siiick! Do you know of a UK Retailer?

I might just pick one up.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/16 02:47:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


Popsicle wrote:That thing is siiick! Do you know of a UK Retailer?

I might just pick one up.


No, but you can get it through hlj.com aka HobbylinkJapan.com. make sure the kit has the green dot by it to let you know it is in stock!

I will say this, most of the hatches are smallish, but then the normal figures could theoretically slither through, provided the men stay fit, and the tank services use the smallest body builds from the inductees to the guard. Tank crew may be no more than 5' 3" tall.

No worries, Orinoco, I will have pics likely tomorrow night!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/18 04:29:23


Post by: shasolenzabi


Okay, I had to resize some of the pics as they are pretty big.First up, the modified turret, Leman Russ hatch and winged skull in gray. White plastic for the cannons modified.
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I started to bore the guns out, and here is a side view of it.




The back, showing the Twinlinked turrets, and the two other guns, as well as the trench rails.



Left side view as i am wrapping up the machine gun drilling.





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I have more images here to show as I progressed.

Here I have a soldier standing right in front of it.




From above so you can see how close he actually is to get a sense of how big the kit is, makes me wonder what a 1/48 scale would be instead of this scale I had to convert.




Standing next it to show the tread system height.




And from a slight height angle. Plenty of the details shown here.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/18 07:49:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


personally i think the 1:48 would have been the better choice. the model looks ace and your doing a very good job to it, but it rather looks a bit small to me. the weaponloadout looks like it could be a standin for a baneblade or other super heavy tanks...

best wishes with your work, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/18 12:25:53


Post by: shasolenzabi


Thanks Vik, I searched for a 1/48 version, but alas, none were on sale, not even E-Bay. I am using the tank the same way as my Double Leman, the bulk of the Akuyaku guns are Heavy Stubbers, and I did manage to drill all of the ones needing it.

Paint started here,
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Then the Shadow Gray
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I then added the metallics to the treads.
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and here, both are painted.
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Then it was time for the black in between breaks for the camo
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/18 12:43:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i really dig the black lines. they look incredibly good. i´m not that fond with the shadow grey, it might be a monitor thing but it looks blue to my to an extent like ultramarines blue even...

but i think when you wash that beast it will blow my mind. have fun painting it. will you name it?

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/18 23:24:31


Post by: Orinoco


Nice work, I think it would do well in a catachan army, could easily be a death world camo scheme.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 01:22:34


Post by: shasolenzabi


Thanks guys. That color scheme is for the Highland summer pattern for the planet Khadrovia, it is a cold world where the weather is what can kill you, especially in winter time. Plenty of of carnivores to hunt and be hunted by on that world to boot! The shadow gray has a big amount of blue tinge, but the rocks are about that shale like color on Khadrovia


I used some old Chestnut wash for the rust effects on the treads;
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Then I figured a company marking may work to contrast with the gray and the green
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The unit marking was with skull white and then using Mechrite red for the base, to be followed by blood red. For the wash to make it look old and dirty I am using devlan mud for the initial wash down and will add even more wash to the lines between the armore plates to make them stand out some more, a little something that appear like orange rust,,,like vomit brown to slightly dab the hull plates and rivets and voila!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 07:28:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i begin to like your design the more i look at it. your fluff for the camo is very sound. one thing i might suggest is take a piece of tape(the paper kind for painting walls etc whats easy to remove) and go over the unit markings. they look too uneven. one day you will do that eventually, but you will always think about it when you see it and tell yourself off for it when not done... the whole model looks really good and as you used brighter colors the eye is imidiatly drawn to this part. will you do something to break up the sooteffect at the barrels? something to lessen the blackness there, i would suggest some greys or some devlan mud wash so thts not so massivly black there.

i really envy you for your fantadstic and unique model.

by the way the rust effect on your tracks looks good. would you mind showing it to us without a flash, maybe an outside shot by bright daylight?

both thumbs up for your great work, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 08:24:22


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hi Vik, Likely I will go to the hardware store next to the shop I was painting it at, and grab some of that tape to help straighten out the lines of red and white. I like that idea of painter's tape to help me out (Shaky hands can be a drawback to free hand painting).

Thanks, I have a whole host of the planets noted down for the Khadrovian Konfederation, and what planets contribute to the military they guard their portion of the Emperor's realms with. The majority of the worlds are Ice worlds, or Tundras, some forested and even a radioactive volcanic world to boot!

As for the soot from firing the cannons,,,,Hmmm, I could try and attempt some different schemes to tone it down, and make it less messy. I am also thinking cuts or holes for the muzzle brake at the end of the main barrel.

As for the tank, you could get one at the HobbylinkJapan, they have two headings for it, you want the one that has it with a green dot and at about 50USD, or likely a little higher in Euros. Then they do add shipping costs, it wasn't too bad, 82.90 total from my bank account as they charged it through Paypal on their website so that you are paying in Yen(Helps their banking system)


I can try daylight for the showing of the rust, I did have the flash off, the whole time we were under flourescent lights, and they do odd things with paint colors. I found that the Chain-mail of the treads with a heavy wash of chestnut ink wash made the rust.


My last pics;

A close up of the rear right flank with the rust and the devlan mud on the vehicle.
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Here the soldier(Greatcoated) is walking alongside the tank it is closer to done.
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Here, a head on for the sheer scale and size of it, making one realize that if I had found this at 1/48th, it would truly dwarf the soldiers
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At a slight angle, but also complete pic of the tank without it being blocked off at the edge.
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I can't wait to work with the helpful suggestions and get decals to mark it up in and rewash it all dirty, and I also plan to use a earthy color to dirty up the lower track sections and add to the discoloration with the rust.


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And I decided to use Guitar strings for the antennae.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 12:46:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


every time i read decals my one eye twinges. i am no good at freehand, well the things i have tried, but i am a total dumba.. when it comes to decals. also i tend to find the glossy look of the decals yucky... i understand if you want to have stability in looks decals is a very good option. i just dont like them.

painters tape...damn i could have come up with the right word^^.
as for lights and effects the produce, the last pic of yours is by far giving the best results. the angle seems just right to pay tribute to all invlved colors...
ha thats a warzone mini? the longcoats? i´ve oggled on them for a long time now. they look super cool. but as i want to ceate a quasi praetorian army they dont look the look...
so as you go in full fluff mode now, will you do the sqad to this tank in a same camo scheme and wiull there be a next tank with another scheme or will you then repeat it? could work if you have small forces about 500 points worth all in seperate schemes which tie themselfs in the greater scheme... this way cyou can built fine looking units and not get bored while overrepeating the same scheme over and over again. if thats your idea as well i´d say cool idea^^...

i came to your thread because you collected the oddbal tanks. that was very inspiring. we should do so again, a leman russ or a landraider get boring when you see too much of them...

cheers mate and good luck with your painting.

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 22:07:20


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, I do want to use the decals I have left over from the GW tanks to make the tie in and look and with the right wash and matte finish, the glossy look should go away. with the painters' tape, some can be hand painted. GW has boring numbers for their vehicles, they are either black or white.

The one thing I have been doing is using a urban-geometric pattern on the fabrics of the mens, uniforms, but some of the units I own this would be silly on, but the helmets and hard armor, like the cadian chest plates will be Catachan Green, some have khaki and earth camo on them. My storm troopers get black armor with grey splinters as opposed to the khaki-earth camo on the green.

All of my tanks are getting the Highlands camo as that is classed as a general patter for the Konfederacy for simplicity in ID of the tanks. I may make some tanks in the future just be green.

The long coats are from Wargames Factory, it is their brand new sci-fi troopers series they just came out with, I have platoons and vets from three different worlds just by using the optional heads that they come with.

I am also working on several other oddballs one is a Gundam Hi Grade kit of the M61A5 tank, I use the guns as long range Twinlinked Vanquishers. I will be taking pics of that as it is built and is under the brush stage now, sorry for no WIPs of that as I build it. Funny, that tank is 1/35 and the guins are still considered smallish for 40K!
155mm and they are too small? I feel 40k is unrealistically over the top with gun sizes, if they built the tanks to actual true scale, instead of just representative size, we would be looking at Leman Russ tanks as big as that Akuyaku kit, and Landraiders the size of Baneblades, Baneblades the ,,,,,well, you get the idea!

I am also planning on better pics as I return to the painting/weathering of the triple turret, double turret tanks I made from bashing two and three Russ kits together.

I am also wanting to rework the Malcador Defender I made from converting a French Char 1B bis from Tamiya. the 1/35 scale Char 1B

Seadragon Heavy Transport
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Variant of the Valdor using S-Tank and Tau bits.
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T-350 triple turret land battleship
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T-290 double Turret, considered a Macharius proxy.
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My French Malcador Defender.
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I also made an exterminator with the leftover turret and cannons from the Char 1.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 22:17:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i also have some 1/35 scale tanks at home. the guns look like needles compared to gw guns... but i have to say i like them more. you´rew right gw tanks need to be far more bigger than they are now. would be fun to see real leman russes. then i would respect them more. as now they seem tres petit and look a bit like grottanks^^
i´ve meant wargames factory^^ just messy recollection on my part^^. they look really good and they give (for real) 3 heads on each model??? cool business concept. that way you can really diversify your army and still make them look as a unit.

i have to master the decals i think as it saves a lot of freehand time. so i hold fingers crossed for your work with them. no need to apologize for no pics. pics happen when something picwothy happens^^

cheers mate, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 22:55:37


Post by: shasolenzabi


They even came with with a odd head that could be used to make a model wok when playing against the Nids, tentacle mouthed squid face for "Sarge is acting weird" if they use that Parasite model.

I loved the Warzone minis as well, especially the last iteration of the Bauhaus army. In Fact I have a small squad of veterans to from some Bauhaus minis, one Blitzer, and Jungle kommandos, I also have first run hussars as Grenadiers/stormtroopers.

I also have some tractors to pull my thudd-guns. 2 came in a kit from taken over FT-17's at 1/35th, and the third is a scratch/bash that looks like a Germanized Bren carrier. All of that came from the top of my head.

Tractors;
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I made Russ style traks for the FT's and used the FT trcks with left over LR treads for the Bren-a-like.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:07:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think the triple head and double headed tanks look god if a bit overgeared. almost a bit orkish to some extent...the camo your using is really goodlooking now that i have seen so much of your army. am i guessing right that you are an apocalypse player then?
i specially like your multi sponsons on the t- mold tanks. thats really helping to support the heavy look

and i have some of the wartone minis with "pickelhauben" on sprues. wanted to use them for my steampunk army as well.

in your last pic you show the tractors. are the guns that get to be carried from warhammer fantasy the hellfire ones? i think they look really good. i´ve searched for them on ebay and want to get some for my uses...

you must be quite a "tank lover", your collection is a very good looking one^^

cheers vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:16:26


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hey Vik, the truth is the theme I was going for was quite Russian in the way of the tank designs and the way they operate, I have taken the squads and made rifle squads and separated out the Heavy weapons to be support squads for the platoons.

Back in the 1980's when 40k first came out, and there was no force organization we played bring it battles that would last all weekend, then Apocalypse came out with some rules and oh yeah! I had to jump on that game. I am likely to use the strategic asset "Tank riders" with all the monster tanks I have as well as about a dozen Lemans' and half dozen chimeras, and then the hellhounds and artillery. I just had to mount the extra sponsons to make them appear the Heavy class tank that they are.

Heh! the Bauhuas troops with the spikes on the helmets were great! Had to make the big weapons Heavy Bolters though.

Ah, those are the actual Forgeworld made Thudd-Guns, bigger than the old metal ones from way back. I love their range and power, they do 5/5 on enemy infantry.

I have the most tanks in my IG collection, as well as my Tau collection. My SM come next, and then there are my Orks...had to get them a Stompa for good measure!


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My exterminator:
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And my "Grizzly" tank. Annihilator turret before the DKoK books came out a year later, and the Battle cannon in the hull, it can be used w/o the turret as a Thunderer:
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And of course,,,,Baneblade:
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:38:02


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the baneblade sure got style.

as for the heavy bolters. i always think they look a bit out of scale when in the hands/mounted on IGtanks of the guard. i´m so used to the disign that when i see them with IG troups it looks like a mishappen conversion...funny thing tho thats not happening when i see a twinlinked bolter...looks more seriously then i suppose.

man as you describe your army you´ve got yourself quite a big no enourmus army. might i ask you of your age?
your by far no teen any more^^

when i see a baneblade i would lobe to see a inside shot of them. as for all those turrets, where is the place for the crew? how do they opperate the gus? well its sifi gaming so i expect no realism but one thinks the thoughts one thinks, non?^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:39:56


Post by: Mad4Minis


Thanks for the link to the Akuyaku...ive been wanting one and have had trouble finding someplace that has them.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:47:11


Post by: shasolenzabi


Baneblade does have an awe around it.

Of course, they should look odd, according to a cutaway from a White Dwarf of the Predator tank, the HB is 37mm gun. 1/35th french tanks could be used as HB sentinels on treads, like the Hotchkiss.

No problem, 46, I have been involved with 40K on/off since it hit the states in 1988.

I have actually been trying to figure out how to do a Interior of one, but to do so is expensive as the materials needed, crew, and carving up a 95dollar model is involved in the process.

Your welcome Mad4minis. ^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/19 23:54:26


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep doing so would involve killing one model/getting it out of the game and only using it for a diorama. sounds a bit over the top then.to make this work you probably have to leave the 28mm heroic scale and go further up the ladder to get all the details done right. when aiming to something that high on an art scale 28mm isn´t enough to admire all in due detail^^

by the way i´m 36 and only recently due to a project with my oldest son did i got reinvlved to wargaming. about 5 years ago i had my first models painted but then they looked like really first models. drunk in paint and not really good lucking. here on this forum i really learned quiet some tricks to make my minis look way better than then.

vik
vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/20 00:09:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! Yeah, and the amount of space such a monster Baneblade would take up!!!

Yeah, one can be away for a while, but something always get's you back in! And practice is always good for the painting!
Just glad you came to get help here at Dakka. At Bootcamp, I am Gen. Makarov.

Practice and tricks help with models.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/20 01:19:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thanks for that last comment^^.
and yeah someone should make this lifesize so that it could be a showcase in a museum . and little kids could climb in... done that a few times with real tanks and my kids. was fun while looking for odd corners and not to bumb ones head^^...

g`night vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/20 23:05:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


Lifesized Baneblade would be Immense!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/20 23:11:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


by the way, bootcamp, whats that another forum of some sort, never heard of it. also i like the name makarov^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/20 23:33:00


Post by: shasolenzabi


Speaking of Bane Blades, I have some other pics to add.

The third tread for helping the Akuyaku-1 get over difficult terrain.
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Next to a Hydra for some size reference against other vehicles.
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The new hull for a Hydra Flank Tank.
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Next to the T-61A5 Tank hunter
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Viktor von Domm wrote:by the way, bootcamp, whats that another forum of some sort, never heard of it. also i like the name makarov^^

vik


Yeah, Bootcamp is an all IG website. it's a cool place.


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Oh yeah, the painter tape was harder to work with on a curving surface. The rivets allowed bleed throughs, so I had to re-work with section at a time.

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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/21 00:31:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


looking really good your regimental colors.the tape paid quite good off. as for blleding through paint. i recommend to paint the part before aplying with the choice color first with the undercolors/side color. i use this by painting windowframes and the likes. first you tape the part, then use the "blue color" then let it dry and then add the color you like for stripes.
next step with new color simply repeat. i know it time consuming put in the end it will look good. but i thin you managed quiet good on your own^^.

3 treads? never seen this. is it only for this kit? but a nice idea nevertheless. guess you could make some house rules for that gimmick.
the tanks still remind me of the comment from Han Solo:

"look at the size of that thing..."

cool work and the decals look really smooth...
your reference shot really dwarfes the other tanks even by a scale of 1/48...

by the way. for your next treads i suggest you try something out. fist i recommend black basecoat. then only drybrushing metal on the treads. this will instantly give lots of scratches on the metal to let it look really worn to begin with. after that you can wash ´em like the devil how you want it. i think as of now the look a bit shiny under the gime and rust. your rsut wash cant break the shinyness of your first metal look...
but don´t get me wrong a general will get in some serious self confict to battle your tank as destroying him, well trying to anyway will cost him dearly one way or another...no ones easy with destroying beauties...

cheers mate, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/21 01:27:46


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hi Vik, I did start out with white as the base color of the stripe, then added the red, had to retouch the white where the red snuck in at the rivets.

Yeah, the Akuyaku has a third section of tracks and wheels in the center, but not the entire length of the tank, I would use the "Rough terrain modifications" wargear rule for the third tread is all.

The T-61A5 is 1/35th scale, makes for superheavy class all at once with that scale! But in 1/35th is my other hellhound a PzKpfW-II flammpanzer, it is about the size of the Chimera,,,odd eh?

I did the first steps with the decals, I used the 'ardcoat on them and with the wash it will match more, and then the Matte Coat to seal it all up!

The metallic first was based more on the look of the trads used, I usually base everything in black, and then work up from that, but these were so huge, I figured they would be metallic to start as they dig deep and get scoured by the dirt they sink into. That would make them get a thin rusty coat due to exposure, I will also be using an earth tone overwash on the treads and the lower armor of the tank to look like it has indeed been in dirt before, ground in dirt.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/21 12:40:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i´ve jsut read in another thread where thy disucced the use of pastel chalk and make up to create weathering effects for cheap.

should have a look:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/329223.page

and yeah i think the T-61A5 is a real beast...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 05:21:28


Post by: shasolenzabi


Cool stuff, I can get weathering powder for cheap now.

Yeah, it should be a great fire magnet, I will have to set it up in woods and give it camo netting for good measure. 3+cover save from most weapons will really drive folks nuts!
I will be loading the next pics for the odd Hydra next


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 07:36:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


camo netting, cool if you could make a step by step, i would greatly apreciate that. stuff used and the likes...

cheers, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 19:56:11


Post by: shasolenzabi


I will, when that time comes, I will likely buy and use gauze bandaging to start with for the camo nets.

As for my odd Hydra conversion, I used the Chimera hull as shown earlier, and this is what it looks like after adding the Aegis platform to it.

Head, ready to shoot those aliens down!
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Profile view w/o flash
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with the flash, a better showing of the details.
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And the back end, Likely best to load it from the hatches there to have plenty of ammo to fire!
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Now, once my batteries are recharged, I have to take pics of the 1/35scale PzKpfw-II Flammpanzer/Hellhound, or banewolf, I put the heavy machine gun in the turret to "count as Pintle mounted weapon as the Heavy flamer and Flame/chem cannons are on the fenders!


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I also added some Gray stuff around the side bottom of the tower to smooth out the gaps.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 20:05:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm hate to be a spoiler, but i think it is now a bit top heavy... i would have left the turret... now its a bit high up. as for the autocannons, one day i will scratch build some of them to do my bidding... tehre is a thread of silveroxide, where he is making some out of completely paper...

i really like autocannons^^..

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 20:07:30


Post by: alarmingrick


Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm hate to be a spoiler, but i think it is now a bit top heavy... i would have left the turret... now its a bit high up. as for the autocannons, one day i will scratch build some of them to do my bidding... tehre is a thread of silveroxide, where he is making some out of completely paper...

i really like autocannons^^..

vik


To me it's too tall.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 20:14:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


I know fellas, but the weird bit is it fits with the Khadrovian penchant of making high sitting tanks as they are almost land going ships as far as they are used by them.

Look back at the T-290 and that is where it all started. OR my T-350, also with a tower or conning tower as it were.

Fear not though, the promised pics of the Hellhound from a WWII Flammpanzer will show a low slung approach to counter the high hat tanks. (I can play it as a battle between design pundits, like the one that went on between Battleship and Aircraft Carrier pundits way back)


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These are the spiffy auto-cannons, sit in the trees, wait for the xenos skimmers, and then fire hails of shots at them. I plan on making three of these for the 12 autocannon firestorm they will cause as a battery


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 20:27:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


by the way nice burger terrain to go with the autocannons...^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 20:56:51


Post by: Kilkrazy


Excellent work going on here.

Good job!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 22:26:28


Post by: shasolenzabi


Ah yes, that was my bacon double cheeseburger terrain half nid munched!^^

I do have a lot of time on my hands when not doing Math for online college and able to head down to the shop for stuff like this.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 22:34:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


are we still talking burgers here?^^

but one thing is for sure, with the turret you definatly get additionaly detail so thats something nbot to be sneezed at...details always good to me^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 22:37:22


Post by: shasolenzabi


I also added the pintle for the Heavy Stubber, and the HK missle as well, I will have pics after tonight of that along with pics of the T-61A5 further painted and decals, and more work to do on the Akuyaku-1 as well.


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Burger is all gone^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 22:52:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hope it was good, and good luck with the building mate,

cheers, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 23:22:15


Post by: shasolenzabi


It was, and thank you! Good luck with the airship!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/22 23:54:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thanks matey...tomorow will be hopefully a good day for airships^^ many parts to glue^^ as usual^^...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/24 01:08:38


Post by: shasolenzabi


Looking forward to it!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/24 01:55:38


Post by: Captain Jack


I've just put these in the IG thread, but they are oddball enough I suppose

Chimera


Hydra




Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/24 01:56:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


Okay, here is my leman russ height Hydra with black and shadow gray as I started to paint it.
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Now with the green added in
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Head on
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I have new pics with touched up Akuyaku and the guitar string wire antennae coming up as well.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/24 10:33:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


is this how you have made all the other tanks or are you changing your modus operandi? looks a bit not done so good, but this might be due to the fact its rpobably the first few coats, am i right?
but i will be patient of the things to come...

good luck with the paintjob, cheers, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/25 00:14:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


Captain Jack, I liked your 8wheel oddballs. AT-43 vehicles? I was wondering what they were originally.

Vik, you have to know by now that you had that guess right, it is not done, not by a long shot! I just am working at doing pre work, I will make the black separation more likable after I make sure the camo is just right. in the meantime, I have placed guitar strings as antenna on the Akuyaku
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Head on with the antennas
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Close up so you all can see them.
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The turret turning, and the antennae and auger pod extended.
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I am thinking that the Akuyaku pod could use some metallic for the shaft-mast, then make it look greased with devlan mud to have that dark brown look from lubrication oil or grease.




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Oh yeah, and to re-shadow that bit to get rid of the extra white up front.


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and metallic for the piston struts for the front ram.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/25 10:30:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


with the antennas you get a slight alien look to the model, nothing wrong just a bit different...
and i have ever wondered what you do to the "tower" on that Akuyaku of yours... i think this will look really good, do the weathering and oily effects for the bladepistons as well...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/27 00:50:14


Post by: shasolenzabi


Okay, I have not yet worked on the metallic color for the tower of the Akuyaku as yet, but I did promise pics of my unusual choice of a Hellhound, where the Hydra and other tanks I own have a "Naval" look with tall conning towers, this one is low slung and sneaky as well as fast. Enjoy! ^^

Here with a show of the additional high pressure tanks.
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Head on, showing the weapons load-out.
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The "heavy-flamer is the left fender, the right is the Cannon, the turret is my "Pintle Heavy Stubber"
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Extra stowage, smoke launchers, and left profile.
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Hopefully, clearer side view.
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/27 14:14:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that one looks like serious business. although i think the gun is a bit ion the shiy side...

will write more in the evening, children have just woken up from their midday nap...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/27 21:48:48


Post by: shasolenzabi


No worries Vik, I need to get some crisp pictures to do the stuff justice.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/29 21:44:38


Post by: shasolenzabi


I shall be taking fresh pics today for posting tonight.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/29 21:53:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i will wait for them.^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/29 22:40:36


Post by: Captain Jack


shasolenzabi wrote:Captain Jack, I liked your 8wheel oddballs. AT-43 vehicles? I was wondering what they were originally.


They are old Marpeth SKD hulls procured from 'thebaggagetrain' on ebay. I had to ask for specificly and it took me a while to get the 11 or so hulls that I have. I used Ork Trukk wheels, as the ones with the kit are a bit weedy, and I have since found out that you can get resin LAV wheels from specialist model suppliers that could also do the job. I just need to weather the vehicles back now, though that may be some time in the future

Some good looking stuff here


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 22:37:00


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well folks, as promised, and with the advice of a white backdrop, I have the Hydra, left side.
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Front;
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Left side with the HK strapped on the tower
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Rear:
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Clearer pics of the Hellhound/Banewolf from a WWII tank kit.
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Head on is a scary prospect with it's weapon load-out
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Clear shot of the right side, allowing the pressure tanks and cannon to be seen.
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More of the main cannon and the high pressure tanks added in.
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Rare rear view of the beast
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With a number and symbol
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section marking on the fender.
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After these, I intend to get back to work and paint up the other super odd tanks I have pictured earlier as they are still in that raw condition of needing more painting done to them. Then, they will also be given numbers and markings.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 22:40:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i like the last two tanks. given these awsome camo shemes you should show us one day a full army shot...something to blow our minds completly^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 22:50:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


Oh, I plan on a mass army pic, or pics as i am thinking at the amount of tanks and troops waiting for painting, I will fill an entire 6' table with about 2 dozen plus tanks and vehicles, about 200men and other parts of the army.


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And thanks all,

Vik: you really were waiting on the pics!^^

Capt. Jack: Thanks and cool deal, post the other tires on your 8-rads here so we can see 'em!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:02:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep i was waiting for them^^

alsways nice to see your camo, it really got to me^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:28:07


Post by: shasolenzabi


Like the wild Tundra, it kinda grows on you.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:30:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


jep, hostile, cold but still beautiful to behold...
sometimes when i was in duty, the coldness i could shun out of my thoughts and just behold the white beauty of the winterlands when lieing in my muld to look out...
but to much of a good thing isn´t good for long^^...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:32:17


Post by: shasolenzabi


Ah, yes, Germany in winter, Neu Ulm was a nice place to be stationed at.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:40:57


Post by: Viktor von Domm


what did you serve as? i was a ABC defense soldier...full gasmask look allover...thats something to walk around when you´re having -20 degrees...not...stiff fingers all over too^^...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/11/30 23:45:14


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! Becaus of what I was, I have avoided adding the Deathstrike Missile to my collection, too many memories of rotten duty, off duty was the best times, but I was a Pershing Missile Crewman, many did not like that being in Neu Ulm, I can tell you that!

I might add it and paint all green and call it the Big Pickle, just like those damned Nukes!


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ABC, yeah, MoPP suit, masks and all that too for us just in case.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 00:13:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


we had to wear it while cleaning up cars and tanks in the cold winter nights... for hours. to be honest nothing is as stupid as living as a soldier. the long boredom and when you get really tough luck you get shot at for a dollar a day...not what i think is something to aim for...but as they say to each its own...
i´m pretty glad i´m well over the whole issue. and following our news here in germany my sons wont have to jion the force...only if the want to...

i guess your job was pretty concentrated dullness, am i right...
in our unit, when we didn´t have to clean tanks for mock up whe mastered the art in sleeping with our foreheads on the tabledesk...a whole group of soldiers like 10 men with their heads on the desk resting...when called out of our rooms for attention we all had inprints of the table edge on our foreheads...very funny for us, but our sarge was furious...
sarges like screaming most^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 00:44:08


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! yeah they do! all part of their job I guess. Oh the US Army will keep you pretty busy all day, if not working on the missiles and their truck beds, then the rest of the Battery vehicles helping the mechanics, or the armorer cleaning up the small arms of the battery, janitoring the barracks and all of that. Rest was for off duty hours.

We were even aware that your army could have a beer in your lunch break! Yes we were jealous of that, and I hjave been tempted to get pics of one of the most infamous units in the Khadrovian Army.....Vassily and his Violators, infamous for showing up in battles as a reserve unit in Cityfights out of manhole covers and drunk on "Wodka" and then blowing up several tanks by the end of the battle. I will have to showcase them when done, I mixed Cadians with SM parts to make their carapace, and Vassily has a Hellpistol and chain toothed power sword. (he really should have a T-hammer as he took one from a SM he killed in HtH! awesome dice rolls for that win!) I mention them in this tank thread for they were the anti-tank squad from hell, always showing up on turn 3 or 5, and we all joked how they were raiding the "Wodka" from the senior officer stores, my friend who lost the most tanks from these guys made a token for them, two crates with bottles he made by cutting the fins off of mortars!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 00:53:45


Post by: TQSplinter


sarges like screaming most^^


Gotta give them something to do ; ) I really cant say much myself as I have prospects of joining the army as an officer...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 01:04:13


Post by: shasolenzabi


TQSplinter wrote:
Gotta give them something to do ; ) I really cant say much myself as I have prospects of joining the army as an officer...


An officer eh? you won't get respect until after you get out of that gold "Butter" bar and make like captain. Just saying.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 09:15:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


like shaso said, until your captain your a jerk for nearly anyone. you will earn yourself respect quite the hard way... its easier for sargents...mabe because of the screaming^^. had some crappy would be lieutenants in my time...always thought they could rule the world...instead it was always the sarge doing the actual work...

as for drinking beer on duty, they would chuck me into the tanty if i would have been found out. that saying i had my fair share of booze while serving...otherwise it was sometimes too boring so when with to much guys to be good for you you start drinking...i like the us army for having mixed ranks of sex. thats definatly an improvement.and speaking of tanty, when on guard duty we had to prisoners, if someone was imprisoned. when we had to go there than the first thing in the night we did was play disco for the inmates...all the while staying guard we could have been sleeping instead. so we figuered when we cant sleep they shouln´t too...mind you they where only drunks and deserters. sometimes some fighter but nothing like disobeying orders, would´nt have done it then...

at shaso:
did i miss your vodka platoon or just missunderstood you there?^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 09:18:42


Post by: neil101


@Vik you old war vet ! and i thought you were a high ranking special services type guy ;-)


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 09:21:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh i´m a pretty sharp shooter by nature beat the crap out of one of my lieutenants in a fast shootout so to speak...dint hit him^^ no but beat him nevertheless...^^
but in day to day duty i was pretty much a firefighter as well...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 13:25:35


Post by: TQSplinter


Viktor von Domm wrote:until your captain your a jerk for nearly anyone.


If I managed It, I'd be joining the ranks as a Captain straight off Though like you said respect gets earned not given with your badge.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 13:34:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


might also be a bit different in the royal army... i´ve heard my fair share of beaten up officers and also sergants too...although they tend to be tougher and instill more fear in the hearts of the mere footloger^^
so as what troop are you signing in, and please forgive me fro asking: why at all? the money? or the chicks to impress? i dont know if uniforms still have that effect to women...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 13:37:56


Post by: TQSplinter


I'd be joining in the Army Legal Service, currently doing my law degree. I have a particular interest in International law, and I've always been rather partial to being in the forces. Kind of the best of both worlds. No worries about asking! Im pretty open about stuff anyways


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 13:49:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah so your not actually taken part to drill and procedures, than i can understand that as it is with the army always a very relyable employer. am i guessing right that the pay will be good?
so that means your like a JAG for the british army then, cool in a way but will you not having lots of troublesome clients...but then again thats what you have to get used to when doing law service...
international law? hmm how is that needed specially for the force?

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 14:00:42


Post by: TQSplinter


Thing with the British army is they train you the same as any other officer then you get a bit of extra legal stuff pegged on. So all the drills and procedures are still there, and you HAVE to serve for at least 3 months with a troop before you do the advice stuff. If i remember correctly you can also request to go on a normal officer deployment as well if you wish.

Basically it ranges anywhere from representing or advising people before a court martial or disciplinary hearing to being on base advising heads of departments and generals on what they can and cannot do. Think they provide a training role as well to the normal troops giving them lessons on "who you legally cant shoot"

Pay is the same as any other officer in the army but rank of Captain is £37,000 and promotion is likely within 4-6 years.

Also do apologise for slightly offtracking the thread


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 21:29:34


Post by: shasolenzabi


No problems, we are all pretty much in the same cut of the cloth as it were. I will wish you good luck with the legal/military career TQSplinter.

Vik, I need to dig out Vassily and his bunch and take pics of them, as well as do them up in full colors! Need to also get a bit of colored cotton "smoke" to put on a tank to emphasize their specialty of wrecking tanks in a fight.

Now, as for the rest of the collection, I need to work on the Hydra, finish up the T-61A5, and the Akuyaku, then I can work on the three turreted monster I made.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 22:05:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at TQsplinter:
so not a only brainer soldier^^ the pay sounds nice, but a number says nothing about the needs of someone. i think it would be quite a good sum for me^^ as i´m unemployed now all is more than zero^^
who you legally cant shoot" LOL had these lectures too. done by our company (same word in english is that right?) captain... well it was something to get you away from marching and getting shout at from the sarge^^ in the freezing cold^^
by the way is it definatly? if not i cross fingers for your enlistment...

yeah i do love scenic pics so much^^ and these wild bunch sound like fun. by the way do they count as steiners gang? would be fun to have them being criminals...

vik


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Post by: shasolenzabi


They are bordering on it, but i use them as vets, with the rules for the Honorifica rules gone, Sgt. Bastogne is the new bit to use, expensive, but hey, it fits as close as possible to the old rules I used to use to make Vassily like a low ranked Colonel. I have an old Valhallan Melta gun user, an old stormtrooper with melta, (First run with the beret and jumpsuit) and another melta gunner the bulk of the squad are in carapace, and using SM arms and shoulder guards(Vassily has the laurel wreath with skull for the Honorifca Imperialis)


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 23:02:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Sgt. Bastogne ? is he in the current codex? i only have an old one...about the time when the old catachan apendix one came out... ebayed all stuff i own...

well your descriptions surly wetted my appetite for vodka^^ so fill in the gaps with pics man^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 23:24:10


Post by: shasolenzabi


I must add them to the pics, I will grab them for painting today.

Sgt. Bastogne is in the new codex IG. no more doctrines, but they do use orders which can be amazing! and sqaudrons of tanks as a single choice, but the downside is the danage that squadrons can suffer, balance fro taking more than one tank as a single choice.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 23:41:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm seems i have to look into the new codex then...nice read tho? i always like the fluff there the most...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 23:43:37


Post by: shasolenzabi


Nice chunky sized book with fresh fluff to read.


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And is making not just squadrons of tanks possible, but also Hydra/Manticore/Deathstrike/Medusa/Colossus bombard all part of the codex legal armor. Armored sentinels for those wanting better protected scouts. Valkyrie Fast skimmers.
so many good new things, it will make you crazy.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/01 23:56:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


^^ also it will make you get poor in no time, as you then possibly want to buy all that stuff to fill the ranks...

for now i will go with the meatshield version for my army^^. i leave the mech part to you^^...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 00:47:53


Post by: TQSplinter


Thankyou very much for the kind words guys It is something i'm really gearing myself towards. I have noticed there are a lot of services personnel on here, should petiton for a GW military discount


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 00:53:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well it figures dont you think? some person thats collecting flowers and chanting peace songs all day wont likley be playing with toy soldiers^^...
well on second thought we do have all seen pretty marines...

the horror^^

and totally for discounts...would ex-soldier qualify too?

loling vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 01:01:30


Post by: shasolenzabi


well on second thought we do have all seen pretty marines...


Pops meds as he shudders, oh the horror!

As promised, I added the Vassily bunch to the great coat thread, but it does not bump it, I also will add them here too since they are kind of tank related,,,,Tank wreckers that is!
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You can also see their "Wodka" stash along with them.


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Paint will be applied tonight.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 01:08:03


Post by: TQSplinter


I must say I can't imagine a load of hippies in a VW camper playing warhammer. I did however just a vision of an officer using orks and space marines to demonstrate battle plans hahaha.

Any person whos served their country should receive at least 15% discount in GW (so ex-soldiers count too )


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 01:13:48


Post by: shasolenzabi


hmmm, discount, yum!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 08:40:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hurray fro dicounts, should do a merger in the u.s. military enlisting srages wearing redshirts and after succesfully enlisting new ones to the army evry man gets his ATOBR set...

as for the Vassily team, looks promising. specially like the melter and his pose...ready o jump it seems. also a lot of ready to slash cadians there.and Vassily is he the one with the laspistol or the one with the berret?

by the way will nick your idea of the vodka stash. but instead of using it for vodka i will do a teachest i wuess. as they will be brits^^. and maybe a foldable chair and table to go for a short teabreak as a objective marker...

cool bottles^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 12:58:55


Post by: TQSplinter


If youre going for a british look, in order for them to call in support they should have a objective marker of a red telephone box


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/02 13:08:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh yeah that would look sweet^^ thats a promise, will do so^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 02:10:51


Post by: shasolenzabi


to Vik, Vassily is the one with the Hellpistol and officer style hat. The Melta gunners; Valhallan: Valentin, the Beret wearer: Tomenov, and the standing one is "shades"
Cpl. Chernov is behind Vassily, and the whole group was modeled with "Hardened Fighters" at the time, before the new 'dex came out. They all have carapace rule added in btw.

I will have a few new pics as I did paint them some more last night. ^^


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The last one was to show Vassily's decoration for his incredible service, accomplishing the impossible against insane odds.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 09:46:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i like what you did with the shoulderpads. helps me, cause i planned something similar with my vicorian shocktroops then...


good to see some paint on the lot^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:04:25


Post by: shasolenzabi


Thanks Vik, they needed extra green as I could see the gray base coat through it, and then I added the camo on their fabric. Next will be their standard splinter camo from the beaureau that caused their mixed camo schemes. Blue for the teeth of Vassily's sword to indicate it as a power weapon, metal color for the corporal's chain sword as well as the rest of the squad's close combats weapons. Gotta paint the carbines and Hellpistol more, add flesh wash and they are back to making tanks afraid to be in cities or closed in areas!.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:16:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


a power weapon chinsword, now thats a sight you don´t see often^^. i really like the idea of naming all of your specials. i want to do that for all my models. this is something i came up with by modeling and painting my first marines...when you hold for so long a fig in your hand they grow on you. so in respect i want to give them names to give them personality. i tend to do so anyway after all no two minis are alike...or rather will be...
by the way have you considered the purchse of a tripod? i think your blurry pics do often come from having not enough stil in the "click" also i read in a tut i think i gave you that when doing makro pics you should use the timer option. so that you don´t accidently minimaly pull the "gun" away when shooting the pic...
other than that i will wait for further paintpics for comments...
i like your bunch^^
vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:25:11


Post by: shasolenzabi


Got the inspiration watching "Robot Warriors", one of the robots used a powered chain sword like weapon, and it stuck in my head!

These guys somehow each took on a personality of their own as I built and began painting them. They are Catachan mixed with cadian mixed with SM and SMscout bitz.

Yeah, the one that came out clearest was leaned against the table.



Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:36:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


taking a picture is like shooting, you´ve got to watch your breath and the shake of your hands and stuff... better have as much steady points as you can have... if i have to use my cam in the free, i use to lend me in the straps of the camera...pushing all the way so it gives a bit of steadyness...
helps sometimes...



Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:37:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! you shoul;d see how small that digicam strap is, it may fit two of my fingers at best!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:40:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


argh those women thingys...to bad i cant show you my cam...as it would be like and MCescher pic then^^ but i have a real shoulder strap... also i built be a DIY tripod recently. down part: its not to be adjusted in an angle...but i suppose your cam has a screwable hole in the bottom? then you could rummerage in your screw box and mybe finsd a suitable screw and build yourself a DIYtripod too...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:55:06


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hey, I looked, and my camera does indeed have a plastic threaded well in the bottom, those Kodak folks planned it all out I guess. Bow as long as I can make a stand for it, I can get steady pics of my models!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 21:57:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


cool, so i might indeed not buy me glasses when looking at your pics...the first one created an effect as if i was just opening my eyes after a long and drunk sleep...lol


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 22:03:38


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:cool, so i might indeed not buy me glasses when looking at your pics...the first one created an effect as if i was just opening my eyes after a long and drunk sleep...lol


LOL! Sorry about that.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/03 22:08:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well wouldn´t be a problem if i was actually drunk...but would be fun once in a while^^ but without alc getting that feel...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/05 00:17:33


Post by: Mad4Minis


I got a box in the mail yesterday from my dad...hobby link japan all over the side...yes, dad sent me an Akuyaku for christmas...


...but the wife wont let me open it. Shes gonna wrap it and make me wait for christmas.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/05 11:41:03


Post by: shasolenzabi


That is okay! now you will have an Akuyaku all your own, a very nice gift btw. I had to buy mine as no one else would get me one. Most people are surprised by the price and won't normally pay for it.

Enjoy! the treads will require super glue to make the polyvinyl go together, and then the plastic track links to the polyvinyl. As you can see, you will have spare track pieces when you are done.
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/07 00:18:46


Post by: shasolenzabi


I think that you will really like also how "clean" the kit is. I did not actually have to shave anything down, no flash.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/07 00:23:32


Post by: Element206


That tank is coming off a little submarine-ish. Very interesting


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/07 04:35:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! I see the tanks i own as "Landships" especially the multi-turreted ones. I think the curved plates and the telescoping auspex pod may make it appear more "submarine" like though. I see how you are struck that way Elelment206.

This is undoubtedly the most turret laden tank I now have.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/07 13:06:53


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:That is okay! now you will have an Akuyaku all your own, a very nice gift btw. I had to buy mine as no one else would get me one. Most people are surprised by the price and won't normally pay for it.

Enjoy! the treads will require super glue to make the polyvinyl go together, and then the plastic track links to the polyvinyl. As you can see, you will have spare track pieces when you are done.


Yeah it was a total surprise to me. I was asked what I wanted so I threw that on the list mostly as filler, as dad usually sends $$. When I saw the fedEx guy walk up with a Hobbylink Japan box I was amazed.

I was planning to buy one eventually, so Im totally thrilled. Just as well that the wife is making me wait till xmas for it...I have enough on the bench, waiting a while will probably result in a better job being done when i do get to it.


Tracks will be ok, back in the day I was really into 1:35 scale armor, so Im sure there will be nothing new in the kit.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/07 23:33:15


Post by: shasolenzabi


Mad4Minis wrote:
Yeah it was a total surprise to me. I was asked what I wanted so I threw that on the list mostly as filler, as dad usually sends $$. When I saw the fedEx guy walk up with a Hobbylink Japan box I was amazed.

I was planning to buy one eventually, so Im totally thrilled. Just as well that the wife is making me wait till xmas for it...I have enough on the bench, waiting a while will probably result in a better job being done when i do get to it.


Tracks will be ok, back in the day I was really into 1:35 scale armor, so Im sure there will be nothing new in the kit.


Awesome, I also used to do a lot of Tamiya made 1:35 tanks as well, so you will know what to do as soon as you the threads, it did not have the pins for going through and melting like the Tamiya treads though, that was how I knew super glue was needed, the poly part is in two pieces, and then all of those plastic tack parts to glue on. WHEW!

Funny part, the box they sent it in was big enough, I could have ordered 2 of the Akuyakus and they would have both just fit in the box.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/08 01:41:07


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:
Yeah it was a total surprise to me. I was asked what I wanted so I threw that on the list mostly as filler, as dad usually sends $$. When I saw the fedEx guy walk up with a Hobbylink Japan box I was amazed.

I was planning to buy one eventually, so Im totally thrilled. Just as well that the wife is making me wait till xmas for it...I have enough on the bench, waiting a while will probably result in a better job being done when i do get to it.


Tracks will be ok, back in the day I was really into 1:35 scale armor, so Im sure there will be nothing new in the kit.


Awesome, I also used to do a lot of Tamiya made 1:35 tanks as well, so you will know what to do as soon as you the threads, it did not have the pins for going through and melting like the Tamiya treads though, that was how I knew super glue was needed, the poly part is in two pieces, and then all of those plastic tack parts to glue on. WHEW!

Funny part, the box they sent it in was big enough, I could have ordered 2 of the Akuyakus and they would have both just fit in the box.


Mine came in the same size box...good thing it filled 2 of the dimensions or it would have bounced like a ball, there was no packing to secure it.

Heres a trick for you with the rubber-ish tank tracks...staple them. I put a couple staples in the joining area then gently stretch the tracks over the wheels. Or you can leave on of the end wheels unglued until you get the tracks in place then put it on.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/08 01:49:33


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hmm, I have heard of the staple method, just never seem to have a stapler around when I need one!

The kit is a bit Char1 like as regards the return system under the treads up top, just slide/guide plates. You will see screws are involved to help hold the rear idler wheels in place as well.

The kit is just amazing, and it makes me wonder how much more they could have accomplished at 1:48 or dare I say 1:35 scale?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/09 23:01:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


I need to decal and weather the T-61A5 next, and make sure to have the metal/oily look on the telescope pod shaft.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 18:34:17


Post by: shasolenzabi


More pics tonight, and for more scratch building ideas I found this site: http://www.landships.freeservers.com/tank_articles.htm Plenty of pics and drawings posted for inspiration!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 18:47:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that was a very valuable link i instantly saved to my favorites...

thanks a lot

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 19:23:12


Post by: neil101


i have had that link for a while..


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 19:29:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah so your sitting on a heap of gold and dont feel like sharing?? tsts one has to wonder...you´ve got a cornucopia of true inspriration all for yourself... *makes a sad face*

besides, have a look at my blog, posted some pics my four year old son did with my airship^^ thats some creativity there^^
no i´m not sorry for any derails caused^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 21:25:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now thats adding to a collection of oddball tanks...

i particularly like this one:


and this one here



i´d say redeemed yourself pretty well sir^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 21:28:05


Post by: Draglide12


Man, some of those look like something the french might make lol...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 21:34:21


Post by: Viktor von Domm


why doesnt all the images doesnt show???


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/12 22:45:59


Post by: neil101


mmm. not sure i thats why i used links , heres my favorite though.. might be chaos .. probably tezentch


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 08:09:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


Seen the vicker tanks and the flying one some time ago, they found the treads tore off the tank upon landing when it actually landed.

And here, as I promised, more pics. The T-61A5 had some more work done on it, still need to dirty it and decal it.
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hydra with some company
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And the Akuyaku with metal/oiled post for the augur pod.
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Similar deal for the forward ram.
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 08:32:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


your heavys bein to send shivers done my spine when isee them...and i always though i was in for slim big busted damsels in flimsy clothes....lol no seriously your T-61A5 looks absolutley super. just needs a heavy wash on everything as it looks a little flat now, but then it will look mindblowing...i guess if he does that you could use him as a psyker^^

also i would do more oily look or maybe the pics isnt showing enough...

i may have said it before but the more i see your camo the more i like it^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 19:23:51


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:your heavys bein to send shivers done my spine when isee them...and i always though i was in for slim big busted damsels in flimsy clothes....lol no seriously your T-61A5 looks absolutley super. just needs a heavy wash on everything as it looks a little flat now, but then it will look mindblowing...i guess if he does that you could use him as a psyker^^

also i would do more oily look or maybe the pics isnt showing enough...

i may have said it before but the more i see your camo the more i like it^^

vik


Nothing wrong with those damsels, But when I think of tanks, I just have a liking for the treads, from the small scout tanks to the behemoths! or to also quote Monty Python's Holy Grail...."She has HUGE tracts of land!"

Thanks. Oh I do intend to wash that Devlan mud and also dirty the lower skirts and the wheels with graveyard earth to show dirt just too ground in to get rid! The decals also should help as they are rather nice for adding to the effects of the thing. Based in it's impressive range already, using the long range rule in the Vehicle Design Rules ought to give me 108" range on those twin super Vanquisher cannons.

Yeah, the pics didn't capture enough, so I will wash it again to look oily on both sets of exposed metal.

Thanks again. I know the pics make that shadow gray loo really blue, but hey, it is alien shale stone.hehehe.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 19:30:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


regarding colors i would suggest you do some open air pictureshots...sometimes it isn´t easy to even buy a decent pant cuase of the damned artifcial light...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 19:46:51


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, because Photobucket is being stupid, I had to cut out some really old pics and re-post my pics.

More oil for the front ram!
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 19:48:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sadly all not showing up here...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 20:43:32


Post by: neil101


Wow they are big.. i like them very much. did you have to convert the twin barrel gun


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/13 20:50:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think it will work out better in the end to put your pics here on dakka...

also you can directly post the pics of your tanks by using theforums link given in the gallery...

like:



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sorry for the little know-it all behavior^^


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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/14 04:02:22


Post by: shasolenzabi


To Vik: Thanks for that insight, awesome to know that bit so that folks don't have to go to extra windows. The pics also caught my friend working on Bolt Action Germans as his selected IG army. He uses a 1:48 scale Me-262 as a Thunderbolt.

To Neil: Those cannons are as is! The T-61A5 is a massive 1:35th scale kit. But the commander is a Leman Russ commander so is in the correct scale for playing in Apoc games. ^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/14 08:28:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


really now that you poited that head sticking out of the tank out i have seen him for the first time and the scale of that beast comes way more clear...jaw hitting floar clear that is...
man if i was a mere punny space marine and wanted to purge some IGs i would pretty soon see the error of my ways...after that the tracks would make me go splat!!!

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/14 11:31:46


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! I will be working on the stats for it with the copy of the Vehicle Design Rules I have in my Chapter Approved 2004.

It is a big beast. All the better to make my enemies surrender!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/14 12:48:49


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:

To Neil: Those cannons are as is! The T-61A5 is a massive 1:35th scale kit.


I had one of those T-61s its a huge kit, Its well over a foot long IIRC. I ended up selling it as I just didnt have time for a project of that scale at the time. I think i actually made a little bit of money off it...bought it for like $95, sold it for over $100.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 02:50:48


Post by: shasolenzabi


To Mad4Minis; I am figuring that is best to grab things when I spot them, I have seen too many other times I wanted for my army that disappeared due to Out-of-print issues.

So, I worked out the details of the T-61in my VDR pages of CA 2004, it came to about 437pts.
Name; T-61A5 super-heavy tank hunter, Race; Human, BS3
FA=14, SA=14, RA=12, structure points=3, Targetter, Armaments: Twin-linked, long-barrel vanquisher cannon, twin-linked heavy bolter/flamer, Pintle mount Heavy Stubber.
speed; normal, fully armored. Crew; Commander/gunner, 2xloaders/gunners, driver/bow gunner, vox-operator.

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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 19:32:37


Post by: shasolenzabi


Now, amazingly the Akuyaku-1 GO is a more expensive vehicle. Likely due to it's siege line breaker role, it is 487pts with the following stats: Type: Warmachine/Tank, Race: Human, BS3, Armor; FA=14, SA=13, RA=12. Structure points=2, Weapons: Battlecannon, 2 x autocannons, 2 x Heavy bolters, 2 x coaxial heavy stubbers, 3 x twin linked heavy stubbers, 9 x heavy stubbers. Crew: Commander/Gunner, 3 x Loaders/gunners, driver, vox operator, 6 x machine gun operators.

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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 20:37:52


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so being a noob i have read, well kind of, cause reading should go hand in hand with understanding...i have indeed some questions... please take in mind that i mainly for now only read fluffy parts of codecies and not the actual rulesstuff...

and something too: i never read an imperail armor codex so this means basically about tanks i know zip...

i understand fast attack and sweeping attack to some extent, the worth i cant put to use there tho...
also class of tank...:Warmachine/Tank why is it mentioned? what other types are there?
and RA is not explained...

structure points, does it serve as "lifepoints/hitpoints" of the tank?
the actual weapon lineup seems to say actually hedghog with shooty needles for me^^ there must be a hell of a noise inside that beast...if i am not mistaken it is 19 firing weapons...do they blast all at once if your using the tank as a spearhead? like run in the middle and keep all holes firing and spin gently around until all surounding biomass is obliterated? like in the movie wild wild west the tank does with all them confederates...?

vik

see told ya i was a born noob^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 21:05:49


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:so being a noob i have read, well kind of, cause reading should go hand in hand with understanding...i have indeed some questions... please take in mind that i mainly for now only read fluffy parts of codecies and not the actual rulesstuff...

and something too: i never read an imperail armor codex so this means basically about tanks i know zip...

i understand fast attack and sweeping attack to some extent, the worth i cant put to use there tho...
also class of tank...:Warmachine/Tank why is it mentioned? what other types are there?
and RA is not explained...

structure points, does it serve as "lifepoints/hitpoints" of the tank?
the actual weapon lineup seems to say actually hedghog with shooty needles for me^^ there must be a hell of a noise inside that beast...if i am not mistaken it is 19 firing weapons...do they blast all at once if your using the tank as a spearhead? like run in the middle and keep all holes firing and spin gently around until all surounding biomass is obliterated? like in the movie wild wild west the tank does with all them confederates...?

vik

see told ya i was a born noob^^


Okay, so the rules part will help you understand how the tanks interact with regards to armor values versus guns shot at them. A codex will mesh with the main rules for the most part allowing one to see how troops and vehicles interact in the game overall.

Well, tanks have a new meaning now with regards to ramming(Tank shock for vehicles as it were)
RA=Rear Armor.
Warmachines, larger than other vehicles of similar design, while dreadnoughts and titans share basic design principles, their scale makes them so the titan is a "warmachine" this also includes superheavy tanks like the Baneblade.

So, warmachines cover the heavy tanks, super-heavy tanks and some of the largest aircraft the game can offer.

Yes, structure points are kind of like hit-points, you have to do structural damage to get rid of the things. Now a Leman Russ for instance, is a 1 point tank, but the Baneblade being bigger lasts longer with it's 3 points.

Superheavies can move, and then, with the "lumbering" rule, fire all of it's weapons, (You have to check arcs and declare what is firing at which targets before actually rolling those dice) so yeah, the inside of the Akuyaku would be pretty bad with all tat machine gun chattering and cannonade booming. The back weapons can only fire after moving if there are target to shoot at behind the tank, but that won't be too many as there are only 2 weapons back there not on turrets. ^^

So, you can imagine the other tanks I have to post here soon, the T-350, the T-290, and the troop carrier "Seadragon"


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 21:22:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


this brought some insights. but also raised some other qs as well.
why has the Akuyaku-1 only two and the T-61A5 three structural points? i understand that he is heavier built than the former but in combat he would only serve a role as a artillery tank and i dont understand why a heavy attack vehicle like the Akuyaku has then only 2 struc.p. ...

by the way how do you check arcs when firing? do you have a tool like the flamertemplate for that? i havent seen that...

apoc games muzst take so much more time than mere normal 40k games...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 22:14:51


Post by: shasolenzabi


I looked at the size of the tanks as part of it. I then also checked with other tanks, the Macharius which is about the same size as the Akuyaku, is 2 structure points and is well armed. also that structure point past one is 100points of the cost. Each weapon has a cost as well. and I like the idea of the T-61A5 lasting a while as it keeps my foes worried about it's ability to smash their tanks from further off than their guns can reach me! The Akuyaku will be escorted by smaller tanks and troops as they all attempt to breach defenses.

Also, looking at the designs, I am going with the aged design of the akuyaku, like the malcador.

Most of the turrets have 360degree arcs, except where the structure of the hull blocks them, the akuyaku can attack anything from the left rear all across the front to the right rear different guns attacking different units. Unhappy enemy infantry along the flanks, and unhappy everything else out front.

Apoc games, depending upon the points, 3k to more, can last hours or days!^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 22:25:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sound like someone is bount to get starved over an apoc game^^

with those turrets and their range and degree arcs its more like a rolling fortress...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 22:40:18


Post by: shasolenzabi


Nah, you plan them in advance, plan for drinks and food and breaks to be had so you don't get too crazy. The idea is for it to be a fun epic movie battle in game form.

Hey the Akuyaku is amongstt hose tnaks like from WWI. land ship festooned with many guns.^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 22:48:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


all in all : the bigger the better^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 23:06:59


Post by: shasolenzabi


Exactly! a quality of tank as opposed to the quantity, although quantity has a quality all it's own.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 23:12:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah thats a good proverb^^

should go to bed now as i am getting way sleepy^^

have a good night sir!

over and out, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/15 23:16:40


Post by: shasolenzabi


Sleep well with dreams of tanks rolling in your head!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 09:01:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


slept well and all the more well because of absent loud rolling tanks i guess^^

vik^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 11:31:06


Post by: shasolenzabi


Time for me to dream of my tanks a rolling ^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 12:15:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well then have a good one...a dream at that^^

cheers, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:25:17


Post by: shasolenzabi


I am back and with me pics of the Akuyaku in the outskirts of a battered town.
First, making it's approach.
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Making a left turn.
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Well oiled is the periscope now! no longer will it squeak as it lowers or raises!
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Closing in, best to get out of the way!
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view from above, either a bird, or scout?
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:31:21


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep, that periscope looks oiled to work very properly^^

nice to see the bruiser in action...but this aslo raises the question : do you will be building a table to go with your army? the wastelands? that would be cool...and some rotten barracks to go with...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:35:17


Post by: shasolenzabi


Sadly, I do not have the space in an apartment for a table. I will be moving in a few months, and maybe then, I can do so as it will be a house to live in, not an apartment. All background is at my local game shop.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:35:33


Post by: Mad4Minis


I cant wait to get rolling on my Aku...but wife wont let me. Since its a xmas gift from my dad she has put it on quarantine until xmas. Maybe Ill get to it a day or so early. Either way, I already know how Im gonna build/paint it, so might be able to have some pics up during the week between xmas and New Years.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:37:45


Post by: shasolenzabi


to Mad4minis: Cool! remember, I made the hatch from a Leman work with sculpting that supporting cylinder on the turret. Think Porsche style King Tiger turret.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 22:47:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh i hate moving... so much stuff here that would need to be packed up and then unpacked...would kill my enthusiasm instantly... but to be true we currently live in a three room apartment (plus bath and kitchen) and we are five together....so we´re a bit crowded too...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 23:13:44


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:oh i hate moving... so much stuff here that would need to be packed up and then unpacked...would kill my enthusiasm instantly... but to be true we currently live in a three room apartment (plus bath and kitchen) and we are five together....so we´re a bit crowded too...


Yeah, apartments are always tight and confined. A house will be nice after so many years of apartment dwelling. And more space for me to work in. I also have new pics of the T-61A5 coming out next!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 23:54:59


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:
Viktor von Domm wrote:oh i hate moving... so much stuff here that would need to be packed up and then unpacked...would kill my enthusiasm instantly... but to be true we currently live in a three room apartment (plus bath and kitchen) and we are five together....so we´re a bit crowded too...


Yeah, apartments are always tight and confined. A house will be nice after so many years of apartment dwelling. And more space for me to work in. I also have new pics of the T-61A5 coming out next!


Been there. Unless your getting something pretty big you will be amazed at how fast a house will fill up.

Got the wife to let me dig into the tank. Time allowing I might get it done this weekend, if not by xmas for sure...so pics next week sometime.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/16 23:57:19


Post by: shasolenzabi


Amazing! how did you get her to allow that? I thought she was going for the whole X-mas thing? Anyway, enjoy the kit I had fun with it.

BTW, the house planned is a old 1915 built one with nearly 4k feet of space.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/17 12:19:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


space will get as easyly used as money gets spent...you get used to live with less but when you get a raise of either you will shortly spent and use it as a whole...no chance of saving up...in my expierience at least...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/17 13:43:00


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:Amazing! how did you get her to allow that? I thought she was going for the whole X-mas thing? Anyway, enjoy the kit I had fun with it.

BTW, the house planned is a old 1915 built one with nearly 4k feet of space.


She finally gave in to me bugging her lol.

You will be amazed how fast you fill a place up.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/17 20:50:10


Post by: shasolenzabi


Interesting how it can happen. My room is a mess, but I will be cleaning it out soon as I am planning the move.
BUT enough talk of moves and space filled.

I have the pics for the T-61A5 I took in a similar vein to the Aku.

Cruising into town.
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Seen from above.
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something straight ahead.
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Making a right turn.
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/17 20:58:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice mud effects on his skirt...but may i ask if you have washed the bigger surfaces already? i would think for now not so...and i would recommend adding a bit of wash to the details there too...

but that aside...hubba hubba man^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/18 02:41:59


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! I washed all of it in Devland Mud wash for the general all around dirty effect, but the camera does not show as well as in person.

Thanks, I learned that some dabbing of Graveyard Earth or other "earthy" colors will make it look like that bit that just will not come clean, the road wheels are also dirtied that way as well. My SM vehicles are also as dirtied along with my other finished IG tanks.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/18 13:06:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


we had the discussion...artificial light does some nasty tricks on your models...whenever i want to show off something important i try to to get daylight for my minis. in our living room, the place where i usually do all the stuff and the pics i have a bigger window that leads to our balcony. the light is sometimes pretty good so i get lots of good shadows on my models then and thus can show of some effects i want to protray...

vik


Automatically Appended Next Post:
a^h!!! a thought crossed my mind as i hit the button:
you could gloss varnish the oiled bits to make them look shiny!

vik again...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/19 10:14:44


Post by: shasolenzabi


Now to try the gloss varnish for the extra greasy look! Thanks for that input Vik!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/19 12:59:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


cool, will be waiting axniosly for your results


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/20 06:13:02


Post by: shasolenzabi


Likely be tomorrow at the earliest.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/20 13:03:20


Post by: Mad4Minis


I finished my Aku over the weekend, pics will be up sometime today.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/20 13:17:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well you sure are quick man!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/20 15:09:20


Post by: Mad4Minis


Viktor von Domm wrote:well you sure are quick man!


Sort of...Id say i put a good 5 hours or so into it over the weekend. I saved time by making some of the moving parts fixed...its just gonna sit on the shelf and look nice, dont need swiveling guns and rolling wheels and such.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here it is. I decided to go semi realistic on it. Gray paint to go with the land battleship look of the tank. Also went for the clean but weather look...like a battle vet ready for the next campaign.

I didnt use the 3rd track under the center, but I may add it later. Also left the track paddles off of the bottom...thought it looked weird with them on, like it was tip toeing. They would sink into the ground and not be visible anyways.







Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/20 22:02:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


to be honest it doesn´t look finished to me enough... i saw the exhaust weathering and it does look really good. tehre i´d lkie to know how you did that. the rest of the model doesnt look convincingly used...specially the tracks doesn´t look realistic. there should be more mud and dirt involved and also rust...lots of it. for my taste its rather clean looking...the grey color looks good though but one thing about the tracks bothers me too. why again didn´t you glue the whole tracks on? in the underside there seems to be none?
don´t get me wrong i don´t want to belittle your work, i have yet to do a tank of my own, but i think you love your model all the more if you give it a bit of more time to mature it^^...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/21 02:04:01


Post by: Mad4Minis


Viktor von Domm wrote:to be honest it doesn´t look finished to me enough... i saw the exhaust weathering and it does look really good. tehre i´d lkie to know how you did that. the rest of the model doesnt look convincingly used...specially the tracks doesn´t look realistic. there should be more mud and dirt involved and also rust...lots of it. for my taste its rather clean looking...the grey color looks good though but one thing about the tracks bothers me too. why again didn´t you glue the whole tracks on? in the underside there seems to be none?
don´t get me wrong i don´t want to belittle your work, i have yet to do a tank of my own, but i think you love your model all the more if you give it a bit of more time to mature it^^...

vik


I wanted it to look relatively clean. Its got a bit of weathering to the paint. As far as the dirt...Ive never been all that good at doing dirt lol. The tracks do need a bit more weathering though. The exhaust is just a drybrushing.

Its actually got tracks all the way around, the paddles are on top of the track belt. I left the bottom paddles off for one reason...under the weight of the tank they would sink into the ground and you wouldnt see them. With them on it looked too high, like the tank was floating.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/21 04:39:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, apparently I was not feeling up to getting out to the shop today, so no new pics for the oiling as yet. Sorry guys.

Hmmm, looking at the new Aku, I can spot the "weathering" at the plates and all. I know the thing looks like it is floating, but I would recommend a way to fill the gaps I see near the bottom with cut down trad plates where the piece will make it look more like it is sinking in.

I had thought of going that route, but was not wishing to leave the track join exposed.

Ya gotta do the helping tread, tanks that heavy need them!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/22 19:10:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


I have found plenty of footage of old crazy looking oddball tanks for inspiration here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYodyWCttg&NR=1

Many linked footage to old footage, and others that still work today due to loving care of the old metal beasts.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/22 20:54:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the last one shown, the green one, its like rivet heaven^^ cool find


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/22 22:55:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


Oh yeah, definitely rivet heaven that one. Once welding became more popular, along with casting, tanks took on the more modern "smooth" look we are familiar with today.

Also, those old era tanks certainly had plenty of guns to go around!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/22 22:58:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep they do look a bit like a shooty hedgehog^^

and i would think the rivets given their amount on the surface and the thickness on it served also another purpose...i could imagine nowadays they might actually work as a kind of passive armore...like deflecting shells?

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/22 23:16:51


Post by: Mad4Minis


Viktor von Domm wrote:yep they do look a bit like a shooty hedgehog^^

and i would think the rivets given their amount on the surface and the thickness on it served also another purpose...i could imagine nowadays they might actually work as a kind of passive armore...like deflecting shells?

vik


Rivets on a tank are extremely dangerous. When an armor plate takes a hit it flexes, this has been known to break rivets, sending half of it bouncing around inside the tank like a bullet. Many crew members on early tanks were wounded/killed by ricocheting rivets.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/23 00:19:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch... havent thought like that...well that rules my idea ou then...cheech...war IS dangerous...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/23 00:32:17


Post by: neil101


nice link and nice tank colour , i found this whilst watching that link and it made me lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JNy0ltovis&feature=related


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/23 13:39:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


omg thats hilarious, in the empire the crew would be shot by their commisar after he cured the headache fom that crash...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/23 23:43:37


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! I had thought of little tanks as proxy sentinels. Someone else made very Russian light tank like minis for such a purpose over at Bootcamp, the Imperial Guard fan-site

As promised, I coated the metal bits with 'ardcoat to get that shiny oil look, and this is what happened. The front forks seem to defy looking shiny
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Periscope shaft, w/o flash, caught my Germanian Guard friend in the pic.
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And here, with the flash. I think that this may have caught the shiny effect, but you guys can judge for yourself all.
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/24 00:05:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice to see my idea worked^^, looks really good, andover all the tan now looks almost finishged i would say, did you weather the whole tank again? looks as if you did...again i see landships are very cool...^^

good work mate

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/24 00:14:13


Post by: shasolenzabi


Weathering is almost done.

Landships, wild concept, it may not have worked back in the day, but look at most 50+ton MBT's these days and they almost qualify. The big problem is transportation, not so in the 41st millenium with cargo lifters big enough to drop dozens of these beasts or a titan even!

BTW, Vik, I was able to zoom in on the pic, and the periscope shaft was even looking ground and pitted! like it has seen many movements unto it's self

I will have to write up a history of the Akuyaku-1 GO, or in my fluff,,,the T-440.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/24 00:19:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


definatly do so, will be fun to read...and be sure to let us see some day some crewmembers of your tanks...i not so much see the models as playthings for 40k but more of a rpg toy so i imagine all the minis needed and will try to add them for my army even if they might not see a game^^

so this is my time to say: merry christmas man and have yourself a peacful holiday...in germany we celebrate on the 24th in the eveniung and my kids will be pretty wound up^^

cheers mate, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/25 01:17:19


Post by: shasolenzabi


Still Christmas Eve here Vik, Hope all went well so far?

I hope all who have looked at the metal monsters I have been presenting have been enjoying them. ^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/25 13:30:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep christmas is nearly over only aftermath so to speak now, two free days and after that some days till new year and we all trying to get along...you probably know how arkward that can be...still it was a nice celebration...

hope you have yourself some merry christams too^^

and for my part i have, do and probably will enjoy your blog of oddities in tankdesign ^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/26 00:15:00


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:Still Christmas Eve here Vik, Hope all went well so far?

I hope all who have looked at the metal monsters I have been presenting have been enjoying them. ^^


I did, love me some tanks. I still grab a 1:35 tank model now and then just for fun. Ive been eyeballing the French LeClerc MBT for a while now...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/26 00:48:23


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:yep christmas is nearly over only aftermath so to speak now, two free days and after that some days till new year and we all trying to get along...you probably know how arkward that can be...still it was a nice celebration...

hope you have yourself some merry christams too^^

and for my part i have, do and probably will enjoy your blog of oddities in tankdesign ^^

vik




Quietly doing laundry and relaxing for Christmas, so far, may wind up at a friend's house later. I know how awkward things can feel, at least I have memories from decades ago,,,now we have to work so much in America that on average we only get 12 days a year off, and that includes Christmas!

Cool Glad you have been enjoying the oddballs!^^




Mad4Minis wrote:
shasolenzabi wrote:Still Christmas Eve here Vik, Hope all went well so far?

I hope all who have looked at the metal monsters I have been presenting have been enjoying them. ^^


I did, love me some tanks. I still grab a 1:35 tank model now and then just for fun. Ive been eyeballing the French LeClerc MBT for a while now...


The LeClerc, turret design seems to have also inspired re-design for the Japanese Type 10 and the Korean K-2 MBT's. In 1/35th scale it seems WWI and WWII light tanks are about Chimera sized when done and those are easiest to convert to WH40K of the lot, more modern designs become baneblade scale!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/26 22:21:23


Post by: shasolenzabi


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The T-440 "Khadrov" Superheavy Siege Tank.

When the T-440 was originally designed by the Khadrovian Armor Design Academy, it was seen that many other planets as well as aliens would fight by entrenching themselves. Siege lines need to be broken, and the troops supported, Malcador Defenders could do this, but something with more fire was needed.Soon trials began, and the T-440 was accepted for service, where it soon proved itself to amplify the abilities of the Defender class by adding even more bullets to the fray. The design is robust, and has a more reliable engine system that are more modern. Though the Defenders still outnumber the Khadrov class, production may shift over to the more durable T-440 as the Defender: Due to it's less reliable power plant tends to be finding less favor amongst the battlefield commanders, despite a newer engine having been installed. Both models are likely still to fight side-by-side for some time to come, terrorizing enemy line troops for the next several generations.

The T-440 boasts an impressive 15 Heavy stubbers which, have some overlapping fields, as well as Heavy Bolters, Auto-cannons and a Battlecannon, Tougher armor, more reliable engines, and is amphibious(thanks to all who likened it to a submarine). It's odd curved design has earned it the nickname "Tadpole" however, it does cost more to make than the Defender, so the total retirement of the Defender is likely to be far off into the future as is the total use of the T-440.

Note: The Leman Russ pattern T-100 and T-101 being smaller, cheaper, and easier to make than either Superheavy is also seeing to the slow reitrement of the one and the slowed adoption of the T-440.

T-440 statistics: Armor; Front 14, Sides 13, Rear 12.
Weapons; Battlecannon, Twinlinked Autocannons with coaxial Heavy Stubbers in main turret. Bow weapons; 2 Heavy Bolters, Twinlinked Heavy Stubber. Hull Weapons; 2xTwinlinked Heavy Styubbers in Turrets, 6x Heavy Stubbers in barbettes, 4x Heavy stubbers in single mounts.
Speed; Lumbering
BS 3
Amphibious
Crew; 16

There we go! I came up with that all last night, and just copied it from the notebook I wrote it in.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/27 13:49:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol the first paragraph reads like an advertisment, just needs the line:

buy now, oure telephonelines are open for you 24 hours, and if you order now you get a set of three leman russes with each T-440 to go...
order now...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/27 21:17:51


Post by: shasolenzabi


Viktor von Domm wrote:lol the first paragraph reads like an advertisment, just needs the line:

buy now, oure telephonelines are open for you 24 hours, and if you order now you get a set of three leman russes with each T-440 to go...
order now...

vik


LOL! hey, FW does tend to write fluff like that for their monster tanks. I figured that using the formula would work for me. Hmmmm, Eradicator/Exterminator/and Punisher or Executioner would be good fits to go with the T-440 with the troops riding on them or walking behind them. I will take Tank Riders as a strategic asset for Apocalypse games with all of those tanks.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/27 21:31:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


jep that would look cool, like the old G.I.s look with loose hanging straps of their helmets and cig packets on their helmets as well... would totally work with your tankbuster crew^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/27 21:34:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


The nice thing is, then you can have the troops assault off the tanks as if they were an open topped transport,,,even though they really aren't! ^^ sneaky eh?

Yeah, G.I.s or even the Sovs would do that. In fact at Bolt Action, they offer Russian tank riders!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/27 21:45:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


there are still some oop ones from gw out there i saw them on ebay etc... also the bolt action stuff would be cool, then you would get the real soviet helmet stuff, also secrets of the third reich now has lots of soviets out there, and also their seperate heads system...could add flavor still by this^^

i also would invest time or money in building/modeling bottles for vodka more^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/28 02:14:52


Post by: shasolenzabi


The left over mortars shells will be what is used, armored vodka!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/28 19:44:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


made a quick google research and only came up with this one pic of them, is that the right model?



care to enlighten your followers? i think alternative sentinelmodels are cool, so i will shamelessly pluck any idea you might care to share^^

vik


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ups, that was for your great coats thread...fuzzy me^^

yep we need augnented vodka^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/29 01:36:33


Post by: shasolenzabi


I removed the machine gunners on the back and placed spare engines back there, and I even glued/greenstuffed GW Lascannons and auto cannon on them. BTW, I have been working on the write up for the other oddballs in my army.

T-61A5 fluff is done.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2010/12/31 21:21:30


Post by: shasolenzabi


So, for the wrap up to the year 2010, I present the fluff for the T-61A5 "Vasily" Tank Destroyer.

T-61A5 "Vasily" class Tank Destroyer
Type: Super-heavy
Weapons: Dual long-barreled Vanquisher Cannons, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, Pintle mounted Heavy Stubber.
Special Equipment:Targetter system, laser range finder based. 2 x Imperial Fields.
Armor: Front=14, Sides=14, Rear=12
Structure Points: 3
Speed: Lumbering
BS: 4
Note: Amphibious
Crew: 8

Special note: The dual long ranged vanquisher cannons can fire simultaneously at separate targets, or if they fire as a single shot at one target, they can amplify the punch power to a D class hit against a Titan or other Super-heavy Vehicle.

A culmination of recovered documents and blue-prints both ancient and new, the Khadrovian Design Beaureau decided to name the new T-61A5 the "Vasily" in honor of a state hero, he is a noted tank killing veteran of the Khadrovian Iron Guard.

This massive metal monster is a tank hunter, just like the namesake, and has enough Vanquisher shells to kill entire armored companies. The Khadrovian forges have taken a large order for these, and production is anticipated at a staggering three of these a month!

The T-61A5 boasts room, the rediscovered targetters, cogitators, as well as A.B.C. (Atomic, Biological, and Chemical) shielding, as well as a internal water system(Yes, chilled water for the crew!) Enemies of the Emperor best beware!

The apparent low number of weapons points to it's role of long range sniper, killing tanks at staggering distances.

One enemy of the Emperor mistook the T-61A5 as a double barreled Earth-shaker, and took measures to avoid their tanks from being rained on by shelling from above by spreading out. Instead, this made them all clearer targets, and the enemy general was shocked to have his on vehicle disabled at great range with accurate, pin-point fire. The single T-61A5 then wrecked or destroyed no less than another five vehicles, giving it a half dozen kills before the enemy ordered a withdrawal!

Due to it's massive size, and ABC warfare capabilities, the T-61A5 is amphibious, allowing it to cross rivers without bridges as most cannot handle it's Bane-blade like mass.

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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/01 01:57:21


Post by: Mad4Minis







Mad4Minis wrote:
shasolenzabi wrote:Still Christmas Eve here Vik, Hope all went well so far?

I hope all who have looked at the metal monsters I have been presenting have been enjoying them. ^^


I did, love me some tanks. I still grab a 1:35 tank model now and then just for fun. Ive been eyeballing the French LeClerc MBT for a while now...


The LeClerc, turret design seems to have also inspired re-design for the Japanese Type 10 and the Korean K-2 MBT's. In 1/35th scale it seems WWI and WWII light tanks are about Chimera sized when done and those are easiest to convert to WH40K of the lot, more modern designs become baneblade scale!


The WWII style also fits 40k better than the modern stuff. Doesnt really matter for me though, Im not using them in 40K, just for building fun/shelf display.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/01 08:42:27


Post by: shasolenzabi


Mad4Minis wrote:
The LeClerc, turret design seems to have also inspired re-design for the Japanese Type 10 and the Korean K-2 MBT's. In 1/35th scale it seems WWI and WWII light tanks are about Chimera sized when done and those are easiest to convert to WH40K of the lot, more modern designs become baneblade scale!

The WWII style also fits 40k better than the modern stuff. Doesn't really matter for me though, I'm not using them in 40K, just for building fun/shelf display.



Oh definitely! I was looking on You-tube for the older pre-war tanks and found te footage of the K-2 and Type-10 very like the Leclerc, whereas the Type 90 was a very Leopard II looking tank design, and the K1 looked like a little brother to the M-1A1/2 tanks.

WWII light tanks make great chimera to Leman Russ sized tanks. I have also seen Tigers at 1/35th scale turned into Ork Battle-wagons in the past. Modern designs, if desired for gaming, become Bane-blade scale monsters, as seen with the T-61A5 in the same terrain as the Akuyaku was posed in. Presently, I don't have the space to display 1/35th scale models, or I would have a massive collection like a tank museum would have!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/01 21:30:59


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:
The LeClerc, turret design seems to have also inspired re-design for the Japanese Type 10 and the Korean K-2 MBT's. In 1/35th scale it seems WWI and WWII light tanks are about Chimera sized when done and those are easiest to convert to WH40K of the lot, more modern designs become baneblade scale!

The WWII style also fits 40k better than the modern stuff. Doesn't really matter for me though, I'm not using them in 40K, just for building fun/shelf display.



Oh definitely! I was looking on You-tube for the older pre-war tanks and found te footage of the K-2 and Type-10 very like the Leclerc, whereas the Type 90 was a very Leopard II looking tank design, and the K1 looked like a little brother to the M-1A1/2 tanks.

WWII light tanks make great chimera to Leman Russ sized tanks. I have also seen Tigers at 1/35th scale turned into Ork Battle-wagons in the past. Modern designs, if desired for gaming, become Bane-blade scale monsters, as seen with the T-61A5 in the same terrain as the Akuyaku was posed in. Presently, I don't have the space to display 1/35th scale models, or I would have a massive collection like a tank museum would have!


Im a bit space limited as well. I only have 4 at the moment...a Tiger I, M4a4 Sherman, the Aku, and a Stug III. Ive got my 28mm Battletech Atlas and Mad Cat holding down either end of the shelf. I could probably squeeze in 2 more tanks...maybe only 1 if it was big.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/01 22:15:07


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, I would usually see about another shelf, but the place is rented, and I don't want a bill for damaging the walls.

I was wondering what folks felt about the fluff for the T-61A5?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/01 22:56:20


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:Well, I would usually see about another shelf, but the place is rented, and I don't want a bill for damaging the walls.

I was wondering what folks felt about the fluff for the T-61A5?


Seems cool to me.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/02 12:59:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


shasolenzabi wrote:the fluff for the T-61A5 "Vasily" Tank Destroyer.

Lumbering ??? what does you want us to think about that? i have some confusing ideas about that word in context with your tank here...


A culmination of recovered documents and blue-prints both ancient and new, the Khadrovian Design Beaureau decided to name the new T-61A5 the "Vasily" in honor of a state hero, he is a noted tank killing veteran of the Khadrovian Iron Guard.
thats instant fluffy win here as you build up your fluff for your tanks on a new really tasty level^^

This massive metal monster is a tank hunter, just like the namesake, and has enough Vanquisher shells to kill entire armored companies. The Khadrovian forges have taken a large order for these, and production is anticipated at a staggering three of these a month!

The T-61A5 boasts room, the rediscovered targetters, cogitators, as well as A.B.C. (Atomic, Biological, and Chemical) shielding, as well as a internal water system(Yes, chilled water for the crew!) Enemies of the Emperor best beware!

as a former ABC anti soldier i just can imagine i either would love or utterly hate that tank in my nearer vicinity...
The apparent low number of weapons points to it's role of long range sniper, killing tanks at staggering distances.

One enemy of the Emperor mistook the T-61A5 as a double barreled Earth-shaker, and took measures to avoid their tanks from being rained on by shelling from above by spreading out. Instead, this made them all clearer targets, and the enemy general was shocked to have his on vehicle disabled at great range with accurate, pin-point fire. The single T-61A5 then wrecked or destroyed no less than another five vehicles, giving it a half dozen kills before the enemy ordered a withdrawal!

cool fluffy part right here, thats a classy story and creates a respectful air for the tankhunter, that would be so cool to see that kind of rection in a real game...

Due to it's massive size, and ABC warfare capabilities, the T-61A5 is amphibious, allowing it to cross rivers without bridges as most cannot handle it's Bane-blade like mass.

i guess thats a good tribute to comon sense and logic to cover that in the specific rules for that monster of a tank...

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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/02 16:25:58


Post by: Ultrasmurf_no_REALY


make a fellblade


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/02 18:29:24


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, Vik, I do have more fluff for the multi-turreted tanks, and the large transport I have labeled the BMG-100 "Sea Dragon. More later, have game to go to.

I wish I had the money to get the parts for that!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/02 22:08:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm large transport sounds instantly awsome...and definatly needed if you going the heavy tank route...would be a good and needed addition for your troops...

happy new year by the way^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 06:24:57


Post by: shasolenzabi


Happy New Year.



Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 13:12:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if this is still the oddballtank thread than this belongs in here...^^




vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 19:16:13


Post by: Mad4Minis


HA! Love it. Now all the cheap and lazy folks can have Land Raiders.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 20:44:26


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep that that too^^ and you can´t get more retro than that^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 21:47:10


Post by: shasolenzabi


Those are brilliant in their simplicity! And yeah, they do belong here in the Oddball tank thread!Amazing find.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/03 22:37:48


Post by: shasolenzabi


NP Vik. Now for the Super-heavy Transport. Oh yeah, "Lumbering" allows a superheavy to move 6" and fire EVERYTHING!

BMD-100A1 "Sea Dragon"
Type: Super-heavy Transport
Weapons: Auto-cannon with Co-axial Heavy Stubber. Bow Heavy Stubber, 2xHeavy Stubber in turrets.
Armor: Front=13, Sides=13, Rear=12
Structure Points: 3
Transport Capacity: 35 infantry.
Speed: Lumbering
Special: Amphibious

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The Khadrovian BMD-100 was designed to get a platoon into position, doing the job of up to four Chimeras. It's more durable nature allows it to do so where Chimeras are somewhat more vulnerable to being knocked out in a single shot.


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The heavy front ramp is the only entry/exit point for the troops to assault from, and also was designed to absorb incoming shots(4+ save front arc only), protecting the vehicle from most attempts to knock it out.


This is what the Khadrovian Konfederacy has in lieu of Gorgon. The BMD-100 is cleared for mass production.
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Man I really need to stop spilling coffee on my keyboard! But there is the "Sea Dragon" for viewing.




Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 00:20:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now that i have a black keyboard there isn´t so many spots to be spotted anymore^^...

that looks really good...am i guessing right that the ramp is fixed? would be super cool to have it moveable...

so thats lumbering...slow, steady and dangerous...really i wouldn´t want to be facing your troops...so much pain stored in cans there^^

by the way, that weathering at the ladder on the side looks really cool and convincing...
and 35 men as load...ouch thats quite a force in the face of your enemy...good shot thats not that quick then, otherwise this would hurt with a striking guarantee...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 03:37:12


Post by: shasolenzabi


Yeah, sadly the ramp is fixed, made from sheet panels and plastic tubes as hinge-works.

My troops get the best I can give them. Plenty of firepower to help on the attack!

Thanks, I really wanted to give the effect that many climbs with the harsh boots would make a mess of the paint, and then a little rusting occurs.^^

Well, I do have the standard tanks and transports as well, but those will be featured in a different thread one day. For now, I still have a couple of more oddballs to finish painting and post the pics with the fluff as well.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 08:44:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


good equipment is waht makes a good fighter a better fighter^^ so the best makes the best...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 08:56:21


Post by: shasolenzabi


That and the liberal application of artillery!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:04:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


seeing the recent wars of the united states artillery seems very likely to go hand in hand with friendly fire tho...
something i wouldn´t look for when seeing your troops^^ that might be a case then about: having friends like that no one needs enemys any more...^^

cheers mate, vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:16:40


Post by: shasolenzabi


You should have seen how many templates I was tossing at opponents, a list that hurled 20 3-5" plates at the enemy.


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That included the Leman Russes


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:18:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


but since your playing apoc games he must have had lots of models too or not? seems your juggling deathstars anyway^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:22:07


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL that was actually a 1850pts list and not Apoc!^^ I had a LOT of mortars and the Thudd-Guns.

It get's worse in Apoc Games.

Add in the Oddballs!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:33:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch it is what i understand a bigger game but then when even not an apoc game i think your oponent was quite hammered? taht poor chap, what was he playing...er ... loosing with?^^

nids or orks?

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:36:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


That list took out Black Templars, Nids, S.O.B.'s and Gray Knights as well as an Iron hand list and Armored company.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:41:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


cool, so i have three heavy weapons teams, do you think i should do them more with mortars than autocanons and bolters? sound like you can create more impact (sorry for that pun^^) with mortars, i never thought that way, i am more for direct hits...but whatever it takes i guess^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 09:45:13


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, a single squad will not drop enough templates. Add in grenade launchers as well, like I had, Thudd guns and a basilisk and leman Russ tanks, and hellhounds that got me plenty of template lobbing doom for my foes.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 11:24:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well first things first but be sure i drop a note when i start with listmaking to get your help mate^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 11:26:57


Post by: shasolenzabi


I'll help where I can! G'nite for now.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 11:28:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


have a nice one^^

read ya^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 21:32:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


Well, the fluff is ready for the multi-turret tanks, but I have just old pics as they have not seen the paint brush for some time. I was wondering if folks would still like these set up here as is?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 21:54:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


assembled pics are fine all the way.... ask neil he is our primarch when it comes to art noir in terms of pics of models^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 22:31:18


Post by: shasolenzabi


Okay, then this will test as well to see how good my skills are at recovering pics from Photo-bucket as they seem to have problems!


Class: T-290 "Bison"
Type: Superheavy tank
Weapons: 2 x Battlecannons(Independent), 4 x Sponson Heavy Bolters, 1 x Lascannon, 2 x Pintle mounted Heavy Stubbers.
Armor: Front=14, Sides=13, Rear=12
Structure Points: 2
Speed: Lumbering
Crew: 8


Notes:
Like it's larger competitor/companion the T-350, the T-290 also fills the heavy Support/Command role in the case of a Baneblade being lost, Like the T-350 can. it is also a good support to other tanks such as platoons of Leman Russ as well as infantry.

The T-290 can fire all of it's weapons independently, or use the battle-cannons in a barrage capacity like the T-350. Both vehicles have also been considered for turret variations such as the Vanquisher, Exterminator, Eradicator, Punisher, Annihilator, and Demolisher patterns either paired or in any combination. Such variable turret guns would mean a flexibility unseen in the Baneblade .

All of these proposals are being reviewed and debated by the Mechanicus for further testing and studying.

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Once I finish the other monsters, I will pull this one out for paint working.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 22:38:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


might i add a suggestion here? the upper turret doesnt look as if fully atteched, rather he looks as if just put there and a quick round about turn would get it spinning down the tank... i would add something that conects it better to the rest of the tank. also the "tower" for the turret could use some modeling love as well as it looks a bit flat with only one or two aquillas as it si now...

but aside from that i like the two sponson bolters on each side...its like a scythe against enemies...

and the raised viewpoint just screams to be used as hq^^ so there will hopefully more fulff when its finally done...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/04 23:23:28


Post by: shasolenzabi


I suppose that does look loose, I simply chopped apart a Leman Russ and placed the turret ring section on top of the tower. I do have a ladder on the right side of the tower and will show that once I dig him out for looking at. I promise. But yes, it is fully attached, as all would be with a Leman Russ, the angle shows how loose Leman Rings actually are. Now Tamiya kits are tight like a tiger!

It has seen battle, but so far all tests have been inconclusive as to whether it is a major winner as the Baneblade, it does work well at grabbing attention and being shot at!


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This issue with the tower/turret can and will be fixable with green-stuff!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/05 08:33:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


It has seen battle, but so far all tests have been inconclusive as to whether it is a major winner as the Baneblade, it does work well at grabbing attention and being shot at!


nice one^^ but then others get their chance unencumbered to make potshots at the enemy so thats nothing to be sneezed at^^

vik




Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/06 22:35:23


Post by: shasolenzabi


And now, because it was all possible due to the Apoc Tank set of 10 Lemans for cheap, the T-350


T-350 "Tzar"
Type: Super-heavy Tank
Weapons: 3 x Battle cannons, 3 x Heavy Stubbers, 4 x Heavy Bolters, Lascannon, Optional: 3 x Hunter Killer Missiles.
Armor: Front=14, Sides=13, Rear=12
Structure Points: 3
Speed: Lumbering
Crew: 12


Notes: Due to concerns that the loss of Baneblades would greatly impact the land forces in a negative way, it was felt something else should exist to lessen that possible loss and still provide heavy support for the tank forces. This need created two successor designs in use by Khadrovian forces, and battle proven, the T-350, and the T-290 multiple-turret super-heavy tanks.

Thanks to it's design, it has been likened to a crawling battleship. The T-350 can fire up to all three of it's battle-cannons into a barrage of frightening proportions, or at three separate targets, based upon the captain's decisions. The T-350 may not be as venerable as the Baneblade, but over time it is proving to be a worthy enough successor.

The T-350 is manufactured and deployed alongside the two turret super-heavy T-290, which seems to complement the T-350, an unforeseen, but accepted developmental surprise.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/07 08:56:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice find of oddbals shaso, i remeber my gandfather telling me he used to ride a kettenkrad in WWII...lost his leutanent at the passenger seat in a rush from a horde of partisans...... was rather bloody story, and i remeber my neckhairs standing on end as he told me that...

on the T-350, your not building an actual Tzar now, dont you? as i recall it was one of your first oddballs shown here the one with the ridiculous big wheels that looks almost like a big wheel from the conny island fare...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/12 03:28:46


Post by: shasolenzabi


Sounds like a real tale for Bieren!

The "Tzar" or T-350, is my take, I have no plans on making giant tricycles.

BTW comp was out of commission, but I am Back!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/12 08:23:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hey was a bit worried as your a regular floater^^

so will yur next update then blow our minds?^^

vik



Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/12 08:50:53


Post by: shasolenzabi


Next update will be to get the two big boys out and finish their paint jobs as I cannot afford new models at this time.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/12 09:10:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


trhats exactly what i´ve meant^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/12 10:35:14


Post by: shasolenzabi


Total camo, flesh the commander, dirty them up.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/15 22:53:53


Post by: shasolenzabi


Fresh pics, the T-61A5 with some small friends hitching a ride and walking with it!

Supporting advance
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Street level.
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Still advancing
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Command joins the advance!
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Load up!
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Flash blast
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Guarding the soda supply!
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Moving out!
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Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 00:58:12


Post by: Mad4Minis


Ive found some more vehicles. They are 25mm, but close enough to 40K scale.

http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/25vehicles.htm

Im going to be ordering one of these soon, like probably sunday.

http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/25mm/sabre/sabretl.gif

If you do a google image search you can see some with a larger gun barrel. If it doesnt come in the kit it would be easy enough to customize.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 01:18:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


Old crow does look good. Did you like the latest pics Mad4Minis?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 07:47:17


Post by: Mad4Minis


shasolenzabi wrote:Old crow does look good. Did you like the latest pics Mad4Minis?


Yeah looking good. Cant wait to get another kit myself. Doing the Aku reminded me how much I like building tanks.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 08:11:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


There is something about tanks that is hard to describe, but dammit, I do have a liking for the big beasties!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 08:28:42


Post by: Brotherjulian


Viktor von Domm wrote:made a quick google research and only came up with this one pic of them, is that the right model?



care to enlighten your followers? i think alternative sentinelmodels are cool, so i will shamelessly pluck any idea you might care to share^^

vik


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ups, that was for your great coats thread...fuzzy me^^

yep we need augnented vodka^^


I have one of these things in bits! I never knew what it was supposed to look like. Looks like it'll stay in my bits


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 08:50:08


Post by: shasolenzabi


I modified mine with an engine where the gunner is, and the GW weapons in place of the originals. Armored Sentinels, light "Stega-tanks" as they are.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 13:19:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at Brotherjulian
i still think it looks kinda cute...sell it don´t let it be unused^^

at shaso...

very nice seeing the guys finally having some fun^^ looked like a tank surfing party^^
quite the drama shots^^ protector of the sodasuply^^ good one there^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 15:09:00


Post by: Captain Jack


There are some new vehicles coming from Antenicities Workshop, I really like them and am planning to get some to replace some of the the 8 wheelers I have. I'm currently using the same chassis as chimeras and Leman Russ so they will reduce confusion when using my Airmobile Guard.

Linksi: http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/2011/01/nova-rus-apc-wip-images/



Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 19:30:14


Post by: shasolenzabi


Pretty much illustrates Apoc's "Tank riders" asset. But that is the one tank to mostly sit back and snipe others with.

Had to work at making things interesting Vik!^^

Nice APC Cap'nJ!

Mad4minis, i liked that heavy tank link as well.!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/16 20:33:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


much apreciated^^ plenty of icing on an already tasty cake^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 07:33:37


Post by: shasolenzabi


My High School German teacher told us his family was a bakery family Both Bakerei and Conditerei, I figured that I ought to take a hint and do some baking with tanks!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 08:45:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol^^

so how long did you endure german lessons? from what i´ve heard german is a nasty language to learn speaking...
english is to my knowledge a bit more forgiving...and i just hated to learn french back in the days... now i think it would have been quite good to be a bit more willing in that department, languages take you on a journey...and if you don´t know any then your bound to stay at home...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 09:35:21


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! Ich Ubt Deutsche fur Zwei Jahren, But when I got to Germany, never got to practice it! so forgive me if that looks bad up there. At least I could get around by Taxi, Banhoff and knew what the sparkasse was.

That and my favorite vendor dish,,,Halbe Hanschen mitt Pomm frittes 7.50 DM

Meienen Deutsche ist Nicht so Gut!!!!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 10:23:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sorry mate if i can´t help it and laugh a bit but your senteces are really nice^^ and by the way your bound to pay through your nose now for a dish like that... even a Bratwurst cost now about 5€s now and i haven´t the foggiest idea what your gonna pay for a chicken these days...
but guess what i think you could get to chat up the women really easy if you ask them something and the apologize with:

Meienen Deutsche ist Nicht so Gut!!!!


i fear if i ever get to travel into an english speaking country i will get my fair share of sniggering^^ i´m entiteled to that too^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 14:02:03


Post by: Kilkrazy


Mad4Minis wrote:Heres another cool tank...


http://www.battlebuild.com/catalog/i10.html






Nice find!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 16:55:20


Post by: Mad4Minis


Seems quite a few 25/28mm gaming scale tanks are from European companies.

I ordered the Old Crow Sabre today. Web site says up to 21 days to process and dispatch. Makes me think its a cast on demand company. Thats fine by me, in not in a huge hurry, besides it seems a couple weeks is common processing time for many European companies.

The Battlebuild tank I posted is available through the company website and they have a few listed on ebay. I may pick one of those up in a week or three as well.

I may take a trip to a big hobby shop about 30 min from me later today, just to see the selection of 1/48 armor.

Maybe pick up a 1/35 Centurion for my 1/35 collection too...


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 20:58:21


Post by: shasolenzabi


Vik, Thanks, it was about my very best I could state in German. All of the German-American friendship club wanted to practice their English, so we hardly got to speak German.

Mad4Minis, I wish we had such ability here in the States, we really need to get back to making things here, who knows what could be made then? and it would also stimulate jobs, and be nice to see wargame products that were stamped with "Made in America" even Warhammeproducts now say "Made in China"


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Oh yeah, I also posted the pics in GreatCoatsRising thread.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 21:22:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i know how that feels when you try to learn or pratice a language and your helpful freind rely on you only to practise with you as a teach istead as a pupil...had that long ago with some greek exchange students who all wnated to speak german but i wnated to talk in english...

yup, i can only second that, so many things manufactured in the far east and we here and you there are downtrodden in a yellow wave...please bear in minde that i don´t want to raise anti chinese thoughts here, the chinese industry had lots of good years fairing on their own, now they are a massproducer in the whole world and one day this all will end very bad for all of us, east and west...

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 21:40:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


Yeah. It is just better for all nations to make things and compete! Instead, multinationals chase the cheapest possible workforce and strip out their facilities when they leave.

Anyway, I can't wait to now finish the present tanks and start working on the ones that I have that actually look like ships on land.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 21:55:41


Post by: Da Warboss


Brotherjulian wrote:
Viktor von Domm wrote:made a quick google research and only came up with this one pic of them, is that the right model?



care to enlighten your followers? i think alternative sentinelmodels are cool, so i will shamelessly pluck any idea you might care to share^^

vik


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ups, that was for your great coats thread...fuzzy me^^

yep we need augnented vodka^^


I have one of these things in bits! I never knew what it was supposed to look like. Looks like it'll stay in my bits
what are these? they look perfect for my squig riding wartrakkz idea.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/17 22:00:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*mouth gathering water in anticipation...*^^

also it might again be worth a try to look into one of my recent blogs^^

shameless vik^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/18 00:14:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! Vik, Loved the airship pics too

Da Warboss, those used to be made for Mutant Chronicles game Warzone, Those were Capital Corporation Orca "Battlesuits" Sadly Target Games, the maker went belly up and they are hard to find kits.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 00:56:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


I will have to look into the blogs if they are on here.

Now to figure out how to snap a pic of the assembled "host"

T-61A5
Akuyaku
Baneblade
Malcador
Valdor
Converted S-tank
2xBasilisks
T-350
T-290
Manticore
Hydra
Hellhounds
Banewolf
chimerasx6
Lemand russ variantsx12-13
Great coats=126
Cadianswith some tau like bits
Catachans
Bauhaus troops
Vostroyans
Kasrkin/Stormtoopers
Thudd-guns with tarctors
Sentinels x 9
Valhallans

All to be done in Khadrovian Livery


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 01:43:19


Post by: Anvildude


What, no Tzar tank?


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 03:07:23


Post by: shasolenzabi


I named the T-350 triple turret tank "Tzar" Not sure i feel the tricycle design.


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 09:33:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*cough, cough* we need more pics *cough*

good the cold weather gets to me...^^

vik


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 10:26:40


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! There will eventually be more, no worries, been going through Youtube and seeing also what tricks have been done to tanks. TR-85 in Romania is a upgraded T-55!

So many upgraded variants off of present designs. T-72 and T-80 upgraded to T-90 and T-95, China took them to Type 99, and the Western tanks also have simply been upgraded.

But no truly oddball modern designs since the Swedish S tank.


But yeah, My army is ready to invade nearby planets for the Emperor!


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/19 10:50:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


and so they should, and so they should^^


Been Seeking out oddball tanks-New Raizot(Raicho) getting some love @ 2011/01/21 00:30:02


Post by: shasolenzabi


I also have a Leman with a french turret.