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Fair enough.
Necron Destroyer Lord w/Warscythe + Phaseshifter 210 Points
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Post by: Cjc1223
5 TH / SS termies. 200
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33 Slugga-choppa boys. - 198
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The Bringer wrote:33 Slugga-choppa boys. - 198
Master of the forge with a bike and conversion beamer 170pts
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Post by: Nulipuli2
dread in pod 140
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2 Crisis Suit Team leaders w/ Fusion Blasters/Missile Pods/TA/MT - 138 points
come to me my pretty!
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Post by: stompydakka
9 lootas-135 pts
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Daemon Prince-Mark of Slaanesh and Lash of Submission (Psychic power)-135pts
I can either bring you to me, or fling you away!!!
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Post by: theduncan
Vet squad 190
Plasma Pistol
3 plasma gun
Chimera transport
Hvy stubber
7 plas shots  .
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theduncan wrote:Vet squad 180
Plasma Pistol
3 plasma gun
Chimera transport
Hvy stubber
7 plas shots .
7 1s
any way, this guy has a 5 invun save and 2d6 armour penetration, I don't see how that will work....
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Post by: theduncan
Monolith - 235
U cant hurt me!
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3 Broadsides w/ Targeting Arrays - 240
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Mathhammer for vets btw:
(Within 12")
1 PP - 2/3 hit, 5/9 wound, 5/18 unsaved wounds
3 PGs - 4 hit, 10/3 wound, 30/18 unsaved wounds
1 lasgun - 2/3 hit, 2/9 wound, 2/18 unsaved wounds
Heavy Stubber - 4.5/3 hit, 4.5/6 wound, 6.75/18 unsaved wounds
HB Turret - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
HB Hull-mounted - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
61.75/18
3 1/3 wounds - hes pretty dead
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6 TH/ SS termies, DSing on you - 240.
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10 howling banshees w/ exarch, executioner, acrobatic 187
Edit: Lol fail I got beat to it 
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theduncan wrote:Mathhammer for vets btw:
(Within 12")
1 PP - 2/3 hit, 5/9 wound, 5/18 unsaved wounds
3 PGs - 4 hit, 10/3 wound, 30/18 unsaved wounds
1 lasgun - 2/3 hit, 2/9 wound, 2/18 unsaved wounds
Heavy Stubber - 4.5/3 hit, 4.5/6 wound, 6.75/18 unsaved wounds
HB Turret - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
HB Hull-mounted - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
61.75/18
3 1/3 wounds - hes pretty dead
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6 TH/ SS termies, DSing on you - 240.
10 Banshees, exarch w/ Executioner - 187 pts + Doom from farseer
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Post by: liam0404
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch - 180 Points
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Post by: theduncan
Boneblade wrote:theduncan wrote:Mathhammer for vets btw:
(Within 12")
1 PP - 2/3 hit, 5/9 wound, 5/18 unsaved wounds
3 PGs - 4 hit, 10/3 wound, 30/18 unsaved wounds
1 lasgun - 2/3 hit, 2/9 wound, 2/18 unsaved wounds
Heavy Stubber - 4.5/3 hit, 4.5/6 wound, 6.75/18 unsaved wounds
HB Turret - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
HB Hull-mounted - 4.5/3 hit, 1 wound, 9/18 unsaved wounds
61.75/18
3 1/3 wounds - hes pretty dead
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6 TH/ SS termies, DSing on you - 240.
10 Banshees, exarch w/ Executioner - 187 pts + Doom from farseer
Good luck against 3++ save.
liam0404 wrote:10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch - 180 Points
No idea what that is but 15 lootas - 225
When in doubt, use something shooty  .
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When in doubt, look at the page.
I already used lootas. Automatically Appended Next Post: p14tinum wrote:10 howling banshees w/ exarch, executioner, acrobatic 187
Edit: Lol fail I got beat to it
Getting beat to it is known as getting NINJA'D!!!
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Post by: theduncan
stompydakka wrote:When in doubt, look at the page.
I already used lootas.
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p14tinum wrote:10 howling banshees w/ exarch, executioner, acrobatic 187
Edit: Lol fail I got beat to it
Getting beat to it is known as getting NINJA'D!!!
You can post the same unit on the same page, just not after each other.
I stand by my my previous post:
15 lootas - 225
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Post by: The Bringer
I do believe that is incorrect sir.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Bringers Right. Lets use:
10 SW in a droppod, 2 flamers, wolfstandard and MOTW- 210.
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D'OH! I used that agiants the lootas... now I'm off to my corner to cry in shame...
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Post by: Ultrasmurf_no_REALY
alright 5 ultramarine Honour Gaurds : 185
all with relic blades that bumps it up to 260
the perfect mix of dakka and close combat
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Post by: Jabbdo
16 Bloodletters
256
Choppychop.
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Post by: Nulipuli2
Land Raider 250
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Post by: theduncan
3 SAG big meks and some  s.
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Post by: stompydakka
points?
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3 SAG big meks and some s - 285
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Post by: stompydakka
4x deffcoptas outflanking with TL rokkits, buzzsaws-280.
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3 broadside battle suits with TL Rail guns and missile pods - 250
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DickBandit wrote:3 broadside battle suits with TL Rail guns and missile pods - 250
I already said broadsides 
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Post by: stompydakka
Deffcoptas still stand.
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4 Broadsides - 280
...
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Post by: Wardragoon
The Bringer wrote:DickBandit wrote:3 broadside battle suits with TL Rail guns and missile pods - 250
I already said broadsides
IDK where you are getting this whole cant be from somewhere else on the page bit.....
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@Broadsides
X4 Blood Crushers of Khorne
X 3 Blood Crushers of Khorne
280 points
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Post by: The Bringer
Wardragoon wrote:The Bringer wrote:DickBandit wrote:3 broadside battle suits with TL Rail guns and missile pods - 250
I already said broadsides
IDK where you are getting this whole cant be from somewhere else on the page bit.....
The rule has been established for many, many pages... I really don't want to have to look for it.
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Post by: stompydakka
Yes. like, 50 pages.
@ bloodcrushers-
10x Lootas
10x Lootas
300 pts.
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@ Gir
I do believe a Land Raider ought to do it 250
EDIT:this ought to work on the lootas too
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Post by: Gavo
Stormtroopers w/ 2x Melta - 105 points.
Tactical Deep Strike!
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5 more dakka flash gitz - 150
Begin the wacky unit wars!
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10 flayed ones, not quite sure if it would win(too lazy to math hammer it)-180 points
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Manticore-160pts
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BA assault squad, melta, infernus 125
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my favorite bug:
the mawloc 170
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@ Mawloc-
SKULLTAKER!- 140 points
(meh, its just abit of fun. And his 4+ rending insta kill is pure comedic gold!)
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Dread inna pod-140
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3 Crisis Suits w/ TL Fusion Blasters (and Blacksun Filters) - 138.
Edit - w00t, 1000 post ftw!
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Post by: theduncan
LR achilles - 300
Go OP IA rules.
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20 shoota boyz EDIT:ninja'd
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Post by: Melissia
One Leman Russ Battle Tank.
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theduncan wrote:LR achilles - 300
Go OP IA rules.
... you over doubled me in points there
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@ LR Achilles
2x Hammerhead, Railgun, Burst Cannons, Dispods-310
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29 'ard boyz, 1 nob w/power klaw and bosspole. 340 points.
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Melissia wrote:29 'ard boyz, 1 nob w/power klaw and bosspole. 340 points.
I'm actually very sure that the hammerheads would win. Submunisions would ignore your armor, and its a high strength large blast template...
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2 Death strike missile launchers 320 points GO DICE GODS GO!!!!
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I think I beat both the 'ard boyz w/ submunitions and the death strike missiles with solid shot...
hammerheads still stand.
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ooh, a challenge
5 piranhas w/ Fusion blasters - 325
(a unit of 1, 2, and 2)
I zooom, and then give you fusion to the rear.
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Ghazgkull Thraka w/ retinue of 27 grots, 2 runtherds.-326.
come get me.
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Post by: Melissia
3 Basilisks, 375 points.
Let's see if someone can use this opportunity to bring the point levels down.
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5x Stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun, 1 plasma pistol, airborne assault - 125
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Darn ninja.
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19 ork boyz, 1 nob w/ BP - 135
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:5x Stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun, 1 plasma pistol, airborne assault - 125
x5 Reaver Jet Bikes w/x1 Cluster Caltrops pts. 130
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Post by: DarthLakey
Avatar of Khaine - 155 pts hahaha beardiest unit ever
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Post by: Nulipuli2
you'lll never catch the reavers
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
15 fenrisian wolves- 120 FTW! .... might not win, but it'd be cool to see.
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DarthLakey wrote:Avatar of Khaine - 155 pts hahaha beardiest unit ever
3x Bloodcrushers with Icon,Fury,Instrument-160
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CSM Daemon Prince with MON and Warptime- 155.
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BA assault squad, TLAC razorback w/ dozer blade 160
Drive away!!!
EDit: ninjad by the prince!!! but it still works
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Post by: stompydakka
2x Broadside Battlesuits w/ TA-160
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Manticore-160
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Erm my broadsides win...
I have a 2+ save and multiple wounds against you weapon, and my weapon ( 2 TL railguns) will kill you.
2x Broadside BAttlesuit w/ TA still stands.
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Ninja'd
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Broadsides still stand
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Deffkopta with buzzsaw - 60pts
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Razorback With las/TL Plas- 75
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stompydakka wrote:Erm my broadsides win...
I have a 2+ save and multiple wounds against you weapon, and my weapon ( 2 TL railguns) will kill you.
2x Broadside BAttlesuit w/ TA still stands.
I doubt 2 broadsides could withstand D3 str 10 large blasts templates...
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Matt.Kingsley wrote:stompydakka wrote:Erm my broadsides win...
I have a 2+ save and multiple wounds against you weapon, and my weapon ( 2 TL railguns) will kill you.
2x Broadside BAttlesuit w/ TA still stands.
I doubt 2 broadsides could withstand D3 str 10 large blasts templates...
They're AP4, mate.
@ Broadsides: Vendetta.
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Gavo wrote:Matt.Kingsley wrote:stompydakka wrote:Erm my broadsides win...
I have a 2+ save and multiple wounds against you weapon, and my weapon ( 2 TL railguns) will kill you.
2x Broadside BAttlesuit w/ TA still stands.
I doubt 2 broadsides could withstand D3 str 10 large blasts templates...
They're AP4, mate. @ Broadsides: Vendetta.
I know that! @130p vandetta Hydra flak tank battery (3 strong) 225pts
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You must be joking. That's nearly double his points.
Must I do the mathhammer to show you broadsides win?
dou you know what a railgun is?
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Post by: Gavo
Ok, so we need an actual challenger to the Vendetta, Broadsides take it down if they shoot first, Vendetta will prob win if it shoots first, they have no cover or shield drones.
@Matt.Kingsley: Really, dude? Almost twice the points.
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Post by: stompydakka
@ vendetta-9x Lootas-135 pts.
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Post by: Gavo
@ 9x Lootas - Leman Russ Battle Tank - 150 points.
I would say Platoon Command Squad w/ 4x flamers and Chimera, but the Lootas would shoot down the Chimera in a flash.
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Librarian w/ vortex of doom & smite 100ptts
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So it's within 100pts of it
@librarian-summoned greater daemon100pts
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Post by: theduncan
Matt.Kingsley wrote:So it's within 100pts of it
@librarian-summoned greater daemon100pts
What is that?
3 killa kans, 3 rokkit launchas - 150
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A daemon from the CSM codex. Profile as follows
Ws8 bs0 str6 t6 w4 i4 a5 ld10 sv4 invun-
Monstrous creature
Fearless in other words, kans don't cut it. They'd be destroyed
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Maybe:
2 Crisis Suits w/ TL Missile Pods and Targeting Arrays - 106
4 S7 AP4 shots that WILL hit.
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Post by: Chaos Lord Gir
3 fiends of slaanesh 90 points
these units are horrific
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Devastator wrote:Hq inquisitor w/sanctuary
+3 acolytes - 84
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Post by: Horizon9
Thuder wolf cavalry w/ plasma pistol 65pts
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heamonculus with hexrifle 65 pts
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2x kill kans 80
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2 Crisis Suits w/ Missile Pods and TL flamers - 86 pts.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Wolf scouts with a meltagun.- 85.
i might not be able to catch you, but I can infiltrate close enought and then scout!
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15 shoota boys - 90
dare ya' to infiltrate.
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The Bringer wrote:15 shoota boys - 90
dare ya' to infiltrate.
Thunderfire cannon 100pts (in bolstered cover of course!) start running
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
MM/HF Landspeeder- deepstrike FTW. That's the problem with artillery...
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Oh, and 70 pts.
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Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:MM/HF Landspeeder- deepstrike FTW. That's the problem with artillery...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, and 70 pts.
how do flame templates work against artillery units on a hit 1-4 you roll against gun and a glance or penetrate kills) 5-6 roll against tech.
so aslong as you kill gun and stay out of range of tech or kill tech you would be fine
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Yup. Template auto hits, I glance on a five and it's destroyed automatically, and the MM has a chance too. The other thing I could do would be to killt the tech priest (easy with a MM) and the cannon is useless.
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Post by: Gavo
@ MM/HF Speeder: 1 Hive Guard - 50 points.
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@ Hive guard.....Predator....60pts
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@ pred
Deffkopta, TL rokkits, Buzzsaw-70 pts.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Escalating again? N'waries, mate. 3 Long Fangs, 2 ML- 65.
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@ Long Fangs.... Wolf Scouts 75
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@ Horizon: Wolf Scouts are already on the page bro.
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Post by: Horizon9
.....well that sucks. BA assault squad 100pts
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Post by: Painnen
Horizon9 wrote:.....well that sucks. BA assault squad 100pts
talos pain engine. 100 pts.
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Post by: halonachos
Banewolf- 130pts.
Omit previous post, was going at BA squad.
Against Talos=
1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts
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Post by: Painnen
halonachos wrote:
Against Talos=
1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts
i think the talos would still win that fight. 36" range with x6 TL,ap5 shots a turn. means you'd have to run x2 turns just to make range of the meltas. even then, you'd only average x2 hits and less than x2 unsaved wounds. the talos would get another round of x4 TL,ap5 shots and then a charge. (at which point your Str3 cannot harm the Talos anymore).
but say you shoot like a champ...
x12 Gargoyles with Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands pts. 96.
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Painnen wrote:halonachos wrote:
Against Talos=
1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts
i think the talos would still win that fight. 36" range with x6 TL,ap5 shots a turn. means you'd have to run x2 turns just to make range of the meltas. even then, you'd only average x2 hits and less than x2 unsaved wounds. the talos would get another round of x4 TL,ap5 shots and then a charge. (at which point your Str3 cannot harm the Talos anymore).
but say you shoot like a champ...
x12 Gargoyles with Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands pts. 96.
I thought we were making the assumption that everything goes right.
What are gargoyle stats with the toxin sacs and glands?
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Post by: Painnen
3-3-3-3-1-4-1-6-6
12" str4,ap5
jump infantry
toxin sacs grant poison 4+ in HtH.
adrenal glands grant furious charge.
gargoyles also wound on a to hit roll of 6 in CC.
assuming the gargoyles can move, shoot, assault in the open they'd average over 10 kills on guardsmen. into cover and they'll only manage about 2 from range and another 4+ in HtH, winning combat by 2-3.
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Post by: halonachos
Alright, I'm going over your points, but a LR Punisher with a heavy flamer for 180pts.
I was going to say a pair of SW squads with a total of 6 flamers, but jump infantry with furious charge is deadly against IG.
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Post by: Gavo
Well, that's about double his points.
@ Punisher: 2x Broadsides - 140 points
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Post by: Horizon9
DA Dread w/ Plasma Cannonand drop pod: 165
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... the broadside would rip that to shreds.
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Post by: AlmightyWalrus
Countering the Broadsides: Callidus Assassin - 120 points.
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Post by: Horizon9
The Bringer wrote:... the broadside would rip that to shreds.
Yes and no. A straight up shootout will lead to the destruction of the dread, drop it in and assault the broadsides, I win
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Post by: Nulipuli2
you drop in, you shoot the plasma cannon, probably take a wound off a broadside, aaaand then the broadsides pwn you.
@ Callidus Assasin
4 Raveners with Rending Claws 145
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Horizon9 wrote:The Bringer wrote:... the broadside would rip that to shreds.
Yes and no. A straight up shootout will lead to the destruction of the dread, drop it in and assault the broadsides, I win
Yes, but unless the Tau player were a noob, they would split those broadsides into 2 units so that even if you do assault 1, the other can pwn you from far away.
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@ Raveners
Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
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Wardragoon wrote:@ Raveners
Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
x5 Scourges w/x2 Heat Lances, Solarite Upgrade, Blast Pistol pts.159
(deepstriking of course)
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EDIT - new-page ninja!
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Post by: Horizon9
The Bringer wrote:Horizon9 wrote:The Bringer wrote:... the broadside would rip that to shreds.
Yes and no. A straight up shootout will lead to the destruction of the dread, drop it in and assault the broadsides, I win
Yes, but unless the Tau player were a noob, they would split those broadsides into 2 units so that even if you do assault 1, the other can pwn you from far away.
At this point we're assuming that there is cover scattered throughout the board
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Post by: The Bringer
There doesn't even need to be cover.
You deploy braodsides 4 feet away on your table edge, with clear LOS to eachother. I could win a shoot-off. If you assault one broadside, it will go *poof* and you will be in the LOS of the second, who will then make you go *poof*
It doesn't take that much creativity.
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Post by: Devastator
25 ork shoota boys w/2x heavy shoota 160
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Furioso Librarian w/ Wings of Sanguinius and Unleash Rage - 175
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Vendetta - 130
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6 Long fangs, 5 ML 140
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Th/ss termis 200pts
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ninjad!
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Post by: Gibbsey
Horizon9 wrote:Th/ss termis 200pts
Master of the Forge 200pts
-Bike
-Conversion Beamer
-Thunder Hammer
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Post by: stompydakka
3 FireKnife suits, team leader,shield drone-206
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6 Vanguard Veterans w/ Jump Packs - 195
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4 combined guardsmen infantry squads- 200 points
active, 40 charging guardsmen!
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8 cyclops demo vehicles- 200pts
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Post by: stompydakka
5x Lootas x3-225
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
.... tough one, but:
Since LF are already taken (curse you Jabbdo!) I gotta go with 2 Rune Priests with Living Lighning and Muderous hurricane. Death from afar, or if you prefer it, up close. Oh , and one CotS.
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Post by: Painnen
Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:.... tough one, but:
Since LF are already taken (curse you Jabbdo!) I gotta go with 2 Rune Priests with Living Lighning and Muderous hurricane. Death from afar, or if you prefer it, up close. Oh , and one CotS.
points?
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Right. 210.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Khorne lord with Daemon Weapon, twin-linked bolter and Jump pack 165pts
4 (5 on the charge) + 2D6 attacks with a 18 inch assualt range (12 inch movement)
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Still think the priests would win... we have an infinite range, up to 6 shot autocannon. Oh, and one's BS 5. ANd the other power puts out a crapload of weak shots.
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Post by: stompydakka
I think the Lord wins that one, sorry.
Actually I think the lootas win, (30 shots, 10 hit, 9 wounds)
but as we are past that....
@ Kharn Lord- Hammerhead w/ railgun, 2 burst cannons, multi tracker, dispod-165 pts.
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Post by: halonachos
Alright I'll risk a deathstrike missile at 960" away from the hammerhead. 160pts.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Tzeentch Daemon prince with wings and bolt of change 175 Pts
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Post by: Joostuh
halonachos wrote:Alright I'll risk a deathstrike missile at 960" away from the hammerhead. 160pts.
First, a table is only 72x48", and you still have to roll a 3 on 2d6 to pen and a 4+ to destroy and uhm... 4+ cover sv ftw!
Yeay! One-shot vehicles are awesome!
Anyhow, vs prince
SM Bike squad 170
*2 Plasmaguns
* MM attackbike
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
I assume that's 3 models? So 4 wounds....
2 Obliterators- 140.
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Post by: stompydakka
2x broadsides, TA-160
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25 Ork Boys - 150 Points
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Post by: The Bringer
2 Broadsides?
... dare I say it...
Shadowsun - 175
She deepstrikes. IDs you, and if you manage to survive a round, she has two shield drones to keep her safe.
EDIT - ninja'd, but boys were already said so it doesn't matter.
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@ shadow sun-Lelith Hesperax,175.
bring it.
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Wouldn't Shadowsun ID her...?
If not...
Farsight!!! - 170 pts.
Shield generator to keep me safe, and it is unlikely that you will wound me... (btw, this is just blind guessing, I don't know exactly who that hero is, just the basic statline GW gives you...)
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Post by: Chaos Lord Gir
Leman Russ main battle tank w/ Hvy bolter sponsons
170 points.
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Post by: liam0404
Soul grinder - 130 Points.
Mmmmmm space elf...
Edit: Argh ninjad!
I'll revise to...
Soul grinder w/Tongue - 155 Points.
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Post by: The Bringer
Farsight would destroy the LRmBT I believe. He would deepstrike, take a round of fire, and then assault and blow you up most likely.
5 attacks at 5+2D6 penetration!
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Post by: stompydakka
@ farsight- 6x Lootas, 5x Lootas-165 pts.
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Post by: liam0404
@ Lootas
9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch - 162 Points
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Post by: stompydakka
Dread inna pod-140
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Post by: liam0404
Black Templar Basic Predator (2 lascannons + Autocannon) 125 Points
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Post by: The Bringer
3 Crisis Battlesuits w/ Fusion Blaster/TL Flamers - 129. (Separate units)
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I would use 130pts worth of grots with some damn good shooting rolling!
This may be against Da Rulez, but this post is on its 120-somethingth post. Meh
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WhiteBishop wrote:I would use 130pts worth of grots with some damn good shooting rolling! This may be against Da Rulez, but this post is on its 120-somethingth post. Meh
lolwut? do you mean this THREAD is on its 120th PAGE? and how does this break the rules? and how are you exempt from rules because the thread is long?
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Post by: liam0404
How many points is a grot? 3?
I'm gonna assume that it's 3.
So 43 grots.....
Dreadnought - 135 Points
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not to mention that the battlesuits eat the grots up.
3 TL Flamers? The grots are going down.
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Whoops.... my bad.
@ the battlesuits
7 x Seekers of Slannesh - 119 Points
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valk with missle pods- 130 I believe (codex not on hand)
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Wraithlord with Lance and Sword 140
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Ah you again Nulipuli :p
skulltaker 140
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
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Post by: Jabbdo
8 Genestealers w/ toxin 136
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stompydakka wrote:WhiteBishop wrote:I would use 130pts worth of grots with some damn good shooting rolling!
This may be against Da Rulez, but this post is on its 120-somethingth post. Meh
lolwut?
do you mean this THREAD is on its 120th PAGE?
and how does this break the rules?
and how are you exempt from rules because the thread is long?
Don' t be mad son, it's cool.
5 Dark Angel Space Marines: 60pts Sorry Jabbdo, you rolled a '2' on your fleet roll and I caught you out in the open; not your fault, just bad luck. Praise be to the Emperor.
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Post by: Devastator
too bad he started 12" away
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Post by: RxGhost
Devastator wrote:too bad he started 12" away
Yeah, at the end of his assault phase.
I don't know what codex the unit "too bad he started 12" away" is in, mind you I don't have the new Dark Eldar Codex.
RULES RULE! 100pts
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Post by: Devastator
RxGhost wrote:Devastator wrote:too bad he started 12" away
Yeah, at the end of his assault phase.
cool story bro you know there is difference between started and ended? your da lose to "genes try again?
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Post by: RxGhost
You'll notice in the scenario I posited, that he had already rolled his fleet roll and wasn't close enough to assault because, and I quote the great wordsmith himself "...caught you out in the open.".
Since there was no mention of said Dark Angels engaged in melee in anyone's turn they were free to fire in my shooting phase, demolishing the genestealer brood.
So as far as "try again" is concerned, I reply: "No U"...but actually try this time will you, your lack of effort is hurting my tender feelings. 85pts plus transport.
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Post by: Wardragoon
ok guys for the most part we should not be factoring luck,since a group of whiteshields can take out a group of deathwing terminators if they get obscenely lucky.
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Well Ill go with the classic Leman Russ Battle Tank-150 points
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Post by: Nulipuli2
ironclad inna pod 170
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Ironclad?
...
3 Piranhas w/ Fusion Blasters - 195 pts.
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6 long fangs w/ missiles- 140. Lets add some more cheese as we're at it: a razorback.
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TThat would be 180
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No more long fangs/razorbacks in this thread please?
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Post by: Wardragoon
Horizon9 wrote:No more long fangs/razorbacks in this thread please?
Uhh not before broadsides go lmao Automatically Appended Next Post: might as well add
Monolith 235- Bring the Cheese
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Oh not again.... It's so boring to see the same spammy units over and over again... even though I post some.... let's go (unfortunately) with a DP with Wings and Warptime- 155.
Honestly, what I want to post is Arjac Rockfist...
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Post by: Van Braun
Deathstrike Missile - 160pts, Imperial Guard. Str 10 Ap 1 (Not that that last one matters...)
50 man IG blob w/5 powerweapons and a commissar w/powerfist. 335pts
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Post by: koridon
ig blob way to much on over kill on points so
Target is dp
5 man terminator assault squad with th / ss -200
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5 Pariahs - 180 points. War Scythes eat your armor/invul saves
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Furioso Dread, w/ blood talons 125
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Imperial endevour class light cruiser.. 120 points
8 Str 10 AP1 blasts per turn...
or two seperate typhoon speeders
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Post by: koridon
does 2 seperate speeders count or would it have to be one squad for this, just curious.
And points please, so 180
Predator with lascannon spansons and tl lascannons -165
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Hammerhead gunship with railgun.
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Post by: koridon
points please
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5 man assault squad with 1 metla bomb and 4 krak grenades -105
yay for assaulting rear armor, and you have 10
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20 boys - 120 pts.
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Tau Crisis Shas'o w/ AFP, Cyclic Ion Blaster, Multi-tracker-115 i think
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Battlewagon with deffrolla - 120 I think
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Its 110, and no sorry you never catch me.
Crisis commander still stands.
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3 Killa Kanz - 120 Points
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I am going to assume you mean 3 Killa Kanz w/ big shootas, because they are 35 pts plain, must take a weapon, and big shootas are 5 pts.
@ kanz- 2x Broadside Battlesuit, TAs-160
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Post by: liam0404
Sorry for the miscalculation, dont have my codex handy!
9 x Seekers of slannesh 153 points
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Hq inquisitor w/sanctuary
+3 acolytes - 84
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no problem.
@ seekers- Lelith Hesperax-175 pts.
EDIT-ninja'd
actually, lelith would work against dev's post.
Lelith stands.
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ninjad?
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Post by: liam0404
I think the seekers would take on both those units and win...
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with sanctuary your demons cant even get close to my unit
edit of course it works as its twice the point value of the I
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I actually don't know what that rule is. What does it do?
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deamons cant enter within 3" of the I w/sanctuary
ultimate counter unit to deamons
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Oh dear, that's not very good at all! I guess that Lelith Hesperax is the unit to beat now then.
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Storm Raven 200
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vendetta 130
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9x Lootas-135 pts.
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4 Crisis Battlesuits w/ TL Flamers and Blacksun Filters - 136 pts...
FLLAAAMMEEESS!!!
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Post by: Tzeentchling9
Devastator wrote:deamons cant enter within 3" of the I w/sanctuary
ultimate counter unit to deamons
So just nurglings, then*?
* as per the DH codex
@Crisis Suits: Eldar Avatar - 160 Points
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@ avatar-Mawloc-170
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Trygon 200
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ooh
5 Crisis Suits w/ TL Plasma Rifles - 240 pts.
(Units of 2 2 and 1)
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0 pts for creativity. Can we just say crisis suits can deal with anything?
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Monolith - 235
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Land Raider Redeemer - 240 points
Ugh, ninja'd.
@ Monolith: Manticore - 160 points
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3 Wraiths - 123 pts
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8 Lootas-120 pts.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Lootas? Again, the origionality thing... this thread is getting old, and will die soon if we keep repeating the same things. SOOOO...... A vindicator.
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Post by: stompydakka
Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Lootas? Again, the origionality thing... this thread is getting old, and will die soon if we keep repeating the same things. SOOOO...... A vindicator.
1. you have no point cost.
2. did you just post a vindicator complaining things are getting old?
3. Dont make me multi-quote your continual usage of Long Fangs, Rune Priests, and TWC.
I post from 2 different 4e dexes, bro.
And Lelith Hesperax, because I can't resist posting a BS9 character who carries no ranged waponry.
lol.
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Post by: liam0404
stompydakka wrote:Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Lootas? Again, the origionality thing... this thread is getting old, and will die soon if we keep repeating the same things. SOOOO...... A vindicator.
1. you have no point cost.
2. did you just post a vindicator complaining things are getting old?
3. Dont make me multi-quote your continual usage of Long Fangs, Rune Priests, and TWC.
I post from 2 different 4e dexes, bro.
And Lelith Hesperax, because I can't resist posting a BS9 character who carries no ranged waponry.
lol.
You also have no point cost for Lelith.
I think she's aroud 195, so ill base my entry from that.
10 x Plagebearers of Nurgle 150 points
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Leman Russ Exterminator With lascannon-165
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woops I meant punisher but w/ever works lol
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liam0404 wrote:stompydakka wrote:Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Lootas? Again, the origionality thing... this thread is getting old, and will die soon if we keep repeating the same things. SOOOO...... A vindicator.
1. you have no point cost. 2. did you just post a vindicator complaining things are getting old? 3. Dont make me multi-quote your continual usage of Long Fangs, Rune Priests, and TWC. I post from 2 different 4e dexes, bro. And Lelith Hesperax, because I can't resist posting a BS9 character who carries no ranged waponry. lol.
You also have no point cost for Lelith. I think she's aroud 195, so ill base my entry from that. 10 x Plagebearers of Nurgle 150 points
No sorry, I did not post Lelith against the vindi. She would lose. I meant that I posted her in the past. for future reference, she is 175.
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Heh, the punsher would kill the plaguebearers, but it would take AGES!
S5 against T5 5++ FNP?
Damn, thas the worlds slowest killing spree!
To your leman Russ, BT Tri-Lascannon predator, 150 points
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land speeder with mm -60
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Angels Encarmine Death Company w/Bolter 20 pts
Stompydakka, do you really think shouting at people about the rules is going to help this topic? This whole thing is a pretty pointless exercise and I think most of us are just trying to entertain ourselves anyways.
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Post by: koridon
5 man scout squad with sniper rifle at range (36 in), -75
sorry for the over kill in points but hard to do when one man is used
rend will kill him with no fnp
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@ Scouts: Outflanking Baal Predator w/ Flamestorm Cannon- 115 Points
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Wraithlord w/ EML
He'll get ya if you get into flame-range.
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10 ratlings - 100 points.
T8 Wraithlord? Pssh.
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Whirlwind tank, incendary castellan missile (ingore all cover saves) -85
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5 Wolf scouts, Meltabombs 100
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hellhound 130
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Stormtroopers with 2x Melta - 105 points
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13 boys w/ PK Nob - 119 pts.
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5 man Sternguard squad with heavy bolter -130
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The Bringer wrote:13 boys w/ PK Nob - 119 pts.
113 points actually, but same thing. @ sternguard 2x Broadsides TAs 160
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TAs? Teaching assistants?
Never Mind. Lets go with 10 Lesser Daemons- 130.
I post what I know, and what I have in front of me.
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Dreadnought - 105 Points
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TA is targeting array 
@ dread...
2 Crisis Shas'vres w/ TL Fusion Blasters - 126 pts.
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30 grots, 3 runtherders-120.
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Weren't crisis's already posted?
Anyways, 30 grots (should be about 90 pts? don't got the codex in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it's right.)
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Fire Prism 115
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Hydra Flak Tank - 75 points.
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Post by: stompydakka
stompydakka wrote:30 grots, 3 runtherders-120.
Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Weren't crisis's already posted?
Anyways, 30 grots (should be about 90 pts? don't got the codex in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it's right.)
you got ninja'd! by the same unit. BTW, you need runtherders w/ those grots. @ hydra-Broadside BAttlesuit, Targetting Array-80
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Broadside?
Crisis Shas'vre w/ TL Plasma Rifles, TA, and Shield Drone - 90 pts.
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Chaos Obliterator.... 75 pioints. That would be interesting to see!
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Not exactly, as the shield drone would soak up the obliti shot, then the oblit would be plasmad to death.
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SWS with 3x Plasma Gun: 75 points
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I have the Urge to reboot this since we are at the rinse wash repeat are of points
so here it is
PCS w/ AC 2 GL 50
Infantry AC GL Commisar 2 PW 120
Infantry AC GL PW 75
Infantry AC GL PW 75
Heavy Weapons 3 LC 105
Total: 425
EAT THAT plasma
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Wardragoon wrote:I have the Urge to reboot this since we are at the rinse wash repeat are of points
so here it is
PCS w/ AC 2 GL 50
Infantry AC GL Commisar 2 PW 120
Infantry AC GL PW 75
Infantry AC GL PW 75
Heavy Weapons 3 LC 105
Total: 425
EAT THAT plasma
Land raider crusader and Land raider redeemer. 490 points. Eat THAT Autocannon grenade launchers!
Its going to take a hell long time but you cant fight back very well As long as they target the LCs first...
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@LRs
SWS w/ 3 melta guns - 90
SWS w/ 3 melta guns - 90
SWS w/ 3 melta guns - 90
SWS w/ 3 melta guns - 90
SWS w/ 3 melta guns - 90
Eat melta LRs.
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3 units of 3 destroyers @450pts
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Those SWS's are illegal- only because the 'unit' can consist of only up to three units.
@ The Destryoers: Logan Grimnar w/ 6 Long fangs with Rocket Launchers, and a Droppod: 450 points.
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Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Those SWS's are illegal- only because the 'unit' can consist of only up to three units.
In op post:
Units can compose of 1-5 squads of the same unit, no more.
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2 Monoliths-470
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3 Wraithlords with wraithswords 330
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7 Crisis Suits w/ Plasma rifles and TL Flamers - 357
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1 Vindicator - 115 Points
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Tau Piranha Light Skimmer
-Fusion blaster
-Disruption pod
75 Points.
Tau gotta stick up for each other right?
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DE Raider 60
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Nulipuli2 wrote:DE Raider 60
I dunno, I still think the piranha would hold it's own; it does have higher armour. Especially wth FB... but fine...
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Rurouni Benshin wrote:1 Vindicator - 115 Points
That vindicator would get wrecked so badly. Tau deepstrike behind it. 7 hits. 2.33 penetrate. 1.16 glance .97 shaken .59 stunned .59 weapon destroyed .59 immobilized .77 wrecked results. I believe EDIT - Edited for bad math.
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The Bringer wrote:Rurouni Benshin wrote:1 Vindicator - 115 Points
That vindicator would get wrecked so badly.
Tau deepstrike behind it. 10 hits. 3.33 penetrate. 1.11 wrecked results.
Assuming it's possible to do so (I.E. there's room) and they don't mishap or scatter out of that arc, and that they were held in reserve for that purpose to do so.
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The Bringer wrote:Rurouni Benshin wrote:1 Vindicator - 115 Points
That vindicator would get wrecked so badly.
Tau deepstrike behind it. 10 hits. 3.33 penetrate. 1.11 wrecked results.
I agree here,still in any of these situations a poor dice roll could potentially spell the end.
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Nulipuli2 wrote:DE Raider 60
Wow, down to 60 points, that was fast.
15 lootas - 225
15 lootas - 225
15 lootas - 225
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theduncan wrote:Nulipuli2 wrote:DE Raider 60
Wow, down to 60 points, that was fast.
15 lootas - 225
15 lootas - 225
15 lootas - 225
Uhhh, yeah, it's down to 60, so why did you just post a 675 pt unit? 
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Idk, but I think he was going back to against the crisis suits, considering they weren't beaten... the lootas would lose against the crisis suits as well I believe, due to the TL Flamers.
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Even so, his unit was more than 300pts more than the suits....
idk
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Post by: prime12357
To the suits, one unit of 3 and another of 4 destroyers. 350 pts.
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Post by: Rurouni Benshin
Vaktathi wrote:The Bringer wrote:Rurouni Benshin wrote:1 Vindicator - 115 Points
That vindicator would get wrecked so badly.
Tau deepstrike behind it. 10 hits. 3.33 penetrate. 1.11 wrecked results.
Assuming it's possible to do so (I.E. there's room) and they don't mishap or scatter out of that arc, and that they were held in reserve for that purpose to do so.
And in another scenario, where the Vindicator gets first shot and it doesn't scatter, what then...? I thought the point of the thread was to find an effective way to destroy the previous entry with another entry at a lower point cost?
Either way, the Vindicator is still a logical and effective way of eliminating 7 Crisis suits. That's not to say that 7 Crisis suits aren't effective at eliminating a single Vindicator, but you're nitpicking over a situation that's completely circumstantial and situational.
Back on Topic:
Sternguard Veterans, 10 Combi-Melta's = 300 Points.
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6 man Vanguard Veteran Squad with jump packs and power weapons, using heroic intervention. - 280 pts. Automatically Appended Next Post: Rurouni Benshin wrote:Sternguard Veterans, 10 Combi-Melta's = 300 Points.
6 Vanguard Vets, all with power weapons and jump packs.
Using Heroic Intervention. = 280 pts
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3 Sniper Drone Teams - 240... I believe
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Storm raven with hurricane bolters, extra armor, tl assault cannons, tl heavy bolters, 4 blood strike missiles -245
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15 lootas-225
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15 Lootas?
7 Crisis Suits w/ TL Flamers and blasun filters - 238
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DP with Wings, MoT, Gift of Chaos, and Warptime. That is, I believe, 205.
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Post by: Rurouni Benshin
5 Terminators with TH/SS = 200 Points.
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5 pariahs, 180pts
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Trygon 200
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5 BA TH/SS termies 225pts
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shrike wrote:5 TH/SS termies 200pts
fail  hint: look 3 posts up
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Devastator wrote:shrike wrote:5 TH/SS termies 200pts
fail
hint: look 3 posts up
...ah...edited.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Just adding BA? Okay... lemme see...
5 Plasma cannon long fangs, pack leader with plasma gun- 200.
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Post by: gendoikari87
Wouldn't the storm shields largely negate the effect of ap 2?
Anywho...
Leman Russ Demolisher 165 points
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Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Just adding BA? Okay... lemme see...
5 Plasma cannon long fangs, pack leader with plasma gun- 200.
I think terminators win that one
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Post by: Rurouni Benshin
Wardragoon wrote:Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Just adding BA? Okay... lemme see...
5 Plasma cannon long fangs, pack leader with plasma gun- 200.
I think terminators win that one
It's a little closer than some might think. Using the best case scenario, this is what would happen:
1. Weapons don't "Get Hot!"
2. BS 4 has a 44% chance of hitting on target.
3. Out of 5 shots, 2.2 will hit on target.
4. Assuming an "On Target" hit will hit 5 Terminators, that becomes 11 total hits.
5. Wounding on 2+ will cause 9.16 wounds, which will cause 3.06 unsaved wounds.
6. Pack Leader Rapid Fires and hits 1.32 times at BS 4.
7. Wound on 2+, causes 1.1 wounds, which will cause .37 unsaved wounds.
8. Total unsaved wounds count becomes 3.43.
This isn't even taking into account that if the non "On Target" results only scatter 1" or 2", which would likely hit at least 2 models. Safe to presume it'll cause at least 3.5 unsaved wounds, which is more than half the unit.
But I digress.... I'd still give the Terminators the edge in this scenario, since they can statistically survive a full round of shooting from the Long Fangs, and the Long Fangs will likely not survive a full on charge by the Terminators.
Back On Topic:
"Against a Leman Russ Demolisher"
Land Speeder Squadron with 2 Multimelta's x 2 - 160 points.
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I was thinkin terminators port
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gendoikari87 wrote:Wouldn't the storm shields largely negate the effect of ap 2?
Anywho...
Leman Russ Demolisher 165 points
Captain w/ Jump pack joined to a squad of vanguard, all with melta bombs/jump packs - 330 ( )
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Ugh. Boosting points again? Let's do it. KHARN! 8 BERZERKERS! CHAAAAARGE!
In case you're wondering, that's 328 points.
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3 Ravagers with Flickers: 345p Bohahaha, can't touch me.
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4 Broadsides w/TA, 72" away.-320.
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4 hydras 300
ninjad
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Broadsides standing
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Post by: Rurouni Benshin
Wardragoon wrote:I was thinkin terminators port
Teleporting doesn't allow you to assault the turn you come on the board though. If that's the case, it would still allow the Long Fangs a chance to shoot before CC.
And I think people forgot that I posted about the 2 Land Speeders against the Russ.... But anywho....
stompydakka wrote:Broadsides standing
Terminators with TH/ SS x 5 = 200 Points.  FTW!
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Post by: Cerebrium
10 bloodletters: 160 points.
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Post by: shrike
Rurouni Benshin wrote:Terminators with TH/ SS x 5 = 200 Points.
Devastator wrote:shrike wrote:5 TH/SS termies 200pts
fail
Rurouni Benshin wrote:5 Terminators with TH/SS = 200 Points.
10 bloodletters?
how about...4 cyclops demolition vehicles!!!
100pts
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Post by: theduncan
Furioso dreadnought - 125
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Land Speeder with 2 Multi-melta's = 80 Points
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you already posted those in this page
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Pred with HB sponsons - also 80 pts.
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