Feth I wish I'd never bothered editing that post now

Can we skip past the book-inspired naming conventions of a character and go back to Skyrim? Or is it now too late?

Amaya wrote:

Tibbsy wrote:

Amaya wrote:

pretre wrote:

Tibbsy wrote:
EDIT: Also, my character's name is Bronn... An internet cookie to whoever knows who he's named after

Considering the current media saturation on that source material...

It's okay, Tibbsy is probably new to the internet.

Pffft I'm not that new

I've just been reading the books recently... And he's an awesome character...

I would bet that at least 25% of posters on this site know who Bronn is or could guess the series he's from within 3 guesses.

Never heard of him but from your various responses i'm willing to bet Game of Thrones...

Looks like you were right Amaya....

Pfft, game of thrones was so last month.

S'all about the hunger games nowadays.

hunger games... is that that movie about kobiyashi?

Corpsesarefun wrote:Pfft, game of thrones was so last month.

S'all about the hunger games nowadays.

I no longer like you.

Time to be nice to purplefood...

For the record I haven't watched or read either game of thrones or the hunger games, I'm just aware of what's currently "the thing".

so I finally made another character, trying a 'realistic' play. Aka: a little as possible fast travel (only in dire need, or a massive trip ), eating meals, sleeping at inns, sleeping whenever ive been awake too long, no 'wait' function for more than a few hours, wear clothes in town, carry one set of armor, etc etc

kinda tough (to only hold one set of armor etc) because I dont have a house yet, but once I get one I'm gonna really start with earnest.

The easy way to get a house is to marry someone. Cheap and easy. I think Ysolda is an easy one in Whiterun, just have to get her a mammoth tusk and she has her own house.

Breezehome (in Whiterun) is quite cheap to buy.... I've bought it already and I've only been playing a few hours... Although it's still pretty bare at the moment

Although granted I haven't been trying that 'realistic' approach At least not to quite the same extent....

EDIT: Added bracket for more info

Yeah, if you're trying 'realistic' then it can be a bit more difficult. Also might be difficult to get to your wedding if you don't fast travel since Riften is quite a haul from Whiterun.

There are a couple containers that don't respawn that you can use if you are desparate. There's a house on the way to Windhelm that has a safe container and is abandoned.

Well, the guy with the wagon will take you on a trip to each major city for a small fee.

Its basically the same as fast traveling, but its totally justifiable realistically.

True, I was skipping it since it was fast travel, but I can see where it would be acceptable.

So earliest you could get a house would be:
Get to Whiterun
Find a Mammoth Tusk
Give to Ysolde
Go to Riften by Wagon
Go to Whiterun by Wagon
Propose
Back to Riften by Wagon
You're married!

Cost you 100g for the wedding + wagon fees.

Camilla Valerius is a good choice too. You can marry her if you complete the golden claw quest. If her brother has an 'accident' then she runs the store as well.

Or you could always use the free housing glitch (not sure if thats been patched though).

Doesn't that require you to have the money and use a container not to spend it?

I already gave her a mammoth tusk so I might marry her. What does her house have?

Umm, bed and some containers. It isn't huge but it is passable.

http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ysolda%27s_House

Oh, nm, just saw this:

If you chose to live here after marriage, sleeping in the single bed will still give you your Lover's Comfort resting bonus, but none of the containers are safe for long-term storage.

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Oh well, here's a list of Safe Locations:
http://uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-Places-Safe

Skyrim's economy is horribly broken. Once you get 50 Smithing/Alchemy you can buy all the ingredients from a vendor, craft your items, and sell them back for a profit.

I've purchased the Solitude and Whiterun homes, all upgrades for them and the Dawnstar sanctuary and I still have 40,000+ gold left.

It's slowed.

Wait, so what you're saying is that a professional smith or alchemist shouldn't make a profit in an economy that isn't broken?

Ummm.

Amaya wrote:Skyrim's economy is horribly broken. Once you get 50 Smithing/Alchemy you can buy all the ingredients from a vendor, craft your items, and sell them back for a profit.

I've purchased the Solitude and Whiterun homes, all upgrades for them and the Dawnstar sanctuary and I still have 40,000+ gold left.

It's slowed.

That's the fun thing about a single player game. It's kind of fun to have the option to overpower yourself, but you don't have to.

It doesn't effect anyone but yourself. Options are always good in games like this.

pretre wrote:Wait, so what you're saying is that a professional smith or alchemist shouldn't make a profit in an economy that isn't broken?

Ummm.

There's no reason to bother with farming ore/herbs unless you're trying to craft specific items.

Amaya wrote:

pretre wrote:Wait, so what you're saying is that a professional smith or alchemist shouldn't make a profit in an economy that isn't broken?

Ummm.

There's no reason to bother with farming ore/herbs unless you're trying to craft specific items.

You'll find that in most mature economies that the manufacturers aren't the ones who obtain the materials. They get them from suppliers.

pretre wrote:Doesn't that require you to have the money and use a container not to spend it?

Yes it does but it means you can spend the money on other stuff afterwards.

vodo40k wrote:

pretre wrote:Doesn't that require you to have the money and use a container not to spend it?

Yes it does but it means you can spend the money on other stuff afterwards.

Yeah, but he can't get a house because he doesn't have the money. Lol

pretre wrote:

Amaya wrote:

pretre wrote:Wait, so what you're saying is that a professional smith or alchemist shouldn't make a profit in an economy that isn't broken?

Ummm.

There's no reason to bother with farming ore/herbs unless you're trying to craft specific items.

You'll find that in most mature economies that the manufacturers aren't the ones who obtain the materials. They get them from suppliers.

Which completely destroys the point of having ingredients in the world...

Only if you didn't murder all the shop keepers




What? I was bored

Grey Templar wrote:Only if you didn't murder all the shop keepers




What? I was bored

The Altmer sisters of Radiant Raiment deserve death.



One thing that annoys me is that no one comments on your armor or weapons. I have a full set of maxed out Legendary Daedric armor and weapons I get no comments on it. /cries

Amaya wrote:One thing that annoys me is that no one comments on your armor or weapons. I have a full set of maxed out Legendary Daedric armor and weapons I get no comments on it. /cries

They comment on most of the artifact weapons. And, I had a few comment on Dragonbone armor when I was wearing that.

Yeah, most guards actually comment a lot on your equipment. 'Light armor means light on your feet, amirite?' etc so on.

I actually find it amusing to click through the guard responses for a while, fills out your map pretty nicely when they give you a bunch of mini-hooks.

I'm annoyed that I'm getting "Is that fur coming out of your ears?" even though I was werewolf for one day and had it cured ages ago.

Amaya wrote:I'm annoyed that I'm getting "Is that fur coming out of your ears?" even though I was werewolf for one day and had it cured ages ago.

Try shaving?

My most recent character actually stayed a werewolf. She's a Nord 2H fighter with heavy armor that I'm focusing on the Stormcloak quests with. Nothing like changing right outside one of the fort quests and just eating your way through an entire Imperial garrison.

pretre wrote:Yeah, most guards actually comment a lot on your equipment. 'Light armor means light on your feet, amirite?' etc so on.

They always told me that while wearing Dwarf Armor.

thenoobbomb wrote:

pretre wrote:Yeah, most guards actually comment a lot on your equipment. 'Light armor means light on your feet, amirite?' etc so on.

They always told me that while wearing Dwarf Armor.

They're actually referring to the fact that you're highly skilled in light armor (I forget what the cutoff skill level is), not the fact that you may or may not be wearing it.

In Morrowind they would comment on the value of your armor.

Edit: If you have it on PC there is an excellent 'cheat' mod called Leveler's Tower.

Best mod title ever. Ancient Hood of the Frostbite Spiderman. SFW link http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=357

Awsome image I found. Thalmor logics. And the truth.

Remind me again how that tiny island managed to do that?

Grey Templar wrote:Remind me again how that tiny island managed to do that?

Magic, literally.

Also it's far less impressive than the British Empire.

Indeed.
And making moons disappear.

They claimed they made the moons disappear. They didn't actually do it.

They have to do something with it.
They know many many things..

Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

It isn't...but its easier to find the resources for.
But yeah, it is silly that dragonplate needs more smithing than daedric. I think bethesda derped there :/.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

It isn't...but its easier to find the resources for.
But yeah, it is silly that dragonplate needs more smithing than daedric. I think bethesda derped there :/.

And it doesn't even look cool. Well, I guess I should be happy Daedric is better because it looks way cooler. Still all that work. Anyone one know where I can pick up a couple more Daedric hearts so I can finish my armour set off?

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

It isn't...but its easier to find the resources for.
But yeah, it is silly that dragonplate needs more smithing than daedric. I think bethesda derped there :/.

And it doesn't even look cool. Well, I guess I should be happy Daedric is better because it looks way cooler. Still all that work. Anyone one know where I can pick up a couple more Daedric hearts so I can finish my armour set off?

Try doing that quest for that museum in dawn star. If you choose to kill him in the end, a new area should open up that spawns daedras regularly.

Failing that, there are some merchants who sell them.

Companians. They have their own bounty record.

...unfortunately I killed that guy on site. My time in Oblivion makes me kill Mythic Dawn people instinctually.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

It isn't...but its easier to find the resources for.
But yeah, it is silly that dragonplate needs more smithing than daedric. I think bethesda derped there :/.

And it doesn't even look cool. Well, I guess I should be happy Daedric is better because it looks way cooler. Still all that work. Anyone one know where I can pick up a couple more Daedric hearts so I can finish my armour set off?

Try doing that quest for that museum in dawn star. If you choose to kill him in the end, a new area should open up that spawns daedras regularly.

Failing that, there are some merchants who sell them.

It still spawns them if you dont kill him.

Corpsesarefun wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Remind me again how that tiny island managed to do that?

Magic, literally.

Also it's far less impressive than the British Empire.

This^

vodo40k wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Hmmm, Dragonplate armour doesn't seem to be as good as Daedric. All that work for nothing. I am dissapoint.

It isn't...but its easier to find the resources for.
But yeah, it is silly that dragonplate needs more smithing than daedric. I think bethesda derped there :/.

And it doesn't even look cool. Well, I guess I should be happy Daedric is better because it looks way cooler. Still all that work. Anyone one know where I can pick up a couple more Daedric hearts so I can finish my armour set off?

Try doing that quest for that museum in dawn star. If you choose to kill him in the end, a new area should open up that spawns daedras regularly.

Failing that, there are some merchants who sell them.

It still spawns them if you dont kill him.

Oh really? I thought you had to gain access to the temple in order to trigger their spawns.
Oh hell, still doesn't help him since he can't even start the quest :/
Strange how selective Bethesda's character shields are...

So I found a Cave In the Reach that had magic Spiders and some crazy Necromancer.


What pissed me off was there was no journal saying "I'm a nutter and _______ is why I made Magic Spiders". ANYWHERE.

I turned that place upside down hunting for any reason to give Spiders the Flame/Frost/Shock cloak spells, but Nothing.

/verydisappointed

lol, maybe google it?

uesp wiki it.

Pretty sure there were journals in that cave.

There was one that said The little spiders died whenever he tried to make them magic, but no explanation on why he needed magic spiders in the first place.


Something that strange deserves a "Why the hell I am doing this" Journal.

Because SCIENCE!

For the sake of discovery.

I found that same cave! It was where the forgemaster's fingers were.

also, whats the best armor set for a sneaky charater? I have uber Nightingale (at least 80% better smithing effects and 100 smithing) atm, but I was wondering if there is anything better? Dont like the Dark Brotherhood armor though, so any other than those two?

Stupid double post.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I found that same cave! It was where the forgemaster's fingers were.

also, whats the best armor set for a sneaky charater? I have uber Nightingale (at least 80% better smithing effects and 100 smithing) atm, but I was wondering if there is anything better? Dont like the Dark Brotherhood armor though, so any other than those two?

IMO Nightingale is the best...
You could probably enchant some stuff for yourself but i prefer Nightingale...
Elder Scrolls Batman!

I just googled nightingale armour. More like Assassin's Creed methinks.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I just googled nightingale armour. More like Assassin's Creed methinks.

With the most horrible name ever.

So, what's the word on the mods for this? Could do with something that beefed dragons/giants, without making them stupid OP.
Also more/bigger dungeons.

the Great Wyrm's mod is cool.

It adds a new class of Dragons(you need to be Lvl50+) that are twice the size of Elder Dragons and have 1500 more health/treasure.

There is also Prides of Skyrim. It adds Lions and Panthers to Skyrim. Prides of Lions are found throughout the Plains areas and Panthers can be found in Marshes. They are pretty tough so be prepared.

Uncle Sheogorath's Really Helpful Hints and Tips is a hoot too.


I havn't come accross any good quest mods yet. Most of them are quite buggy.

O and all of these are Steam mods.

It's gonna be a while before there are any good quest mods for Skyrim. I can only think of a couple that were even decent for Oblivion, while there were dozens for Morrowind. As the complexity of the CK increases, the number of good quest mods seems to decrease quite rapidly.

The only decent mods out there are weapons, armor, textures, models, the alternative start mod, and a few player homes.

Oblivion had a really good Mod for an Evil ending to the Main Story, were you could join the Mythic Dawn and become a permanent member of such, to the point were you killed camoran and took over. I didn't work with KotN though, because the big Altar to Dagon was placed where the KotN temple is.

Uncle Sheogorath is awsome.
'CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE'

I actually hate that Mod, HATE IT!!!, except when I don't. Its really best with fried eggs, or ENTRAILS!!!

And while reading letters written on the back of argonian concubines?

Hey guys!

Is anyone still playing this game, now that the new DLC is out?

Just started getting back into this again, and a couple of new questions if I may!

- Is the new DLC going to come out on the PS3? I see that the XBOX has got it, have they got some kind of exclusive deal I take it?

- Assuming it comes to the PS3 ( ), how does the new vampire/vampire hunter mechanic work? Specifically, I already have a vampire character - will he be changed from the crappy anaemic version with David Copperfield skills of the basic game into one of the quite horrible but awesome looking vampires of the DLC? Is is the same again with the werewolf?

- How does the new stuff in the game shape up? I'm particularly interested in the mounted combat!

I stopped playing a while back. It just gets so boring after a while.

I haven't gotten the DLC, but I play every once in a while. Just seems silly to pay full price with all the mods out. But yeah, it's definitely coming out for PS3

Just wait for it to be released. I still play it. Problem?


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Just wait for it to be released. I still play it. Problem?

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Just wait for it to be released. I still play it. Problem?


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Just wait for it to be released. I still play it. Problem?

Ermm... was that an answer to anyone or anything in particular?

So far, the only things I actually like in Dawnguard are Laura Bailey and the Spirit Cairn, which has to be the coolest area in the game so fair.
Everything else...meh.

Im gonna get it saturday, so dont know yet.

Got the DLC and restarted. Haven't noticed anything new yet, other than how easy this game is once you know what you're doing.

 Testify wrote:
Got the DLC and restarted. Haven't noticed anything new yet, other than how easy this game is once you know what you're doing.

Guys does anyone know how to solve flickering character shadows?

Skyrim came out like a year ago. why is this tread still going?

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Skyrim came out like a year ago. why is this tread still going?

Because necromancers. Necromancers everywhere.

 Testify wrote:
Got the DLC and restarted. Haven't noticed anything new yet, other than how easy this game is once you know what you're doing.

Morrowind was like that. I'd get in, jack a guys key, then raid his vault in Vivec, and be equipped with obsidian gear at lvl 1.

In a way, I like that semi-realisim. If you know what your doing, you can get stuff easily right off the bat.

Of course Skyrim has its flaws. Namely the lack of good stuff to buy with all the gold you end up with. Oblivion had the opposite problem. No compromise?



I actually kinda wish they had kept the destructable armor and weaponry. That would have made a high smithing skill worthwhile once you actually got it maxed out. You can make the best armor and weapons, but you also gotta maintain them.

I also wish there were tradeoffs between armor types. Its not just a race to Daedric plate. Its like, "yeah you can wear this nice heavy armor, but it takes resources to maintain it and it slows you down"

Something like this perhaps?

So all armor(clothing too) will take damage over time. Both statically and as a result of combat(to represent things like rust, corrosion, etc...)

So you gotta repair your stuff. As it takes more damage, the armor provides less protection and requires more materials to repair. If it gets to zero the item breaks completely and you have to have it completely reforged(which costs almost as much as making a new one)

Repairing gear is what I miss the most from ES4.

Yeah, although I think Oblivion missed the mark on how they implimented it. Players complained and they removed it.

Daemonhammer wrote:Skyrim came out like a year ago. why is this tread still going?

Some new Downloadable content has been released/is going to be released.

djones520 wrote:

Morrowind was like that. I'd get in, jack a guys key, then raid his vault in Vivec, and be equipped with obsidian gear at lvl 1.

Haha right.. I remember that lesser demon thing (a skank? I forget the name) in the one town, who would pay full gold for any item, and whose gold stock would replenish very quickly. But, you needed it sometimes because of the insane costs of some of the spells/magic items!

Morrowind was probably the peak of the series for me, or at least the one I have spent the most time on. I thought Skyrim gave more freedom than Oblivion, but still not as much as that earlier game.

Now, if Bethesda ever wants some quick cash to the tune of a couple billion, they could just re-work Morrowind to have Skyrim graphics and combat mechanics. Not things like regenerating health and such, but just, well, physics in combat.

Anvildude wrote:
Now, if Bethesda ever wants some quick cash to the tune of a couple billion, they could just re-work Morrowind to have Skyrim graphics and combat mechanics. Not things like regenerating health and such, but just, well, physics in combat.

There's some fan mods that basically do just this.

Of course, they're PC only, and they require quite a powerful PC. But, they exist.

 Pacific wrote:

Daemonhammer wrote:Skyrim came out like a year ago. why is this tread still going?

Some new Downloadable content has been released/is going to be released.

djones520 wrote:

Morrowind was like that. I'd get in, jack a guys key, then raid his vault in Vivec, and be equipped with obsidian gear at lvl 1.

Haha right.. I remember that lesser demon thing (a skank? I forget the name) in the one town, who would pay full gold for any item, and whose gold stock would replenish very quickly. But, you needed it sometimes because of the insane costs of some of the spells/magic items!

Morrowind was probably the peak of the series for me, or at least the one I have spent the most time on. I thought Skyrim gave more freedom than Oblivion, but still not as much as that earlier game.

Total agreement. Morrowind was the game that set the bar for me. If only they could have such a large game witht he graphics that the newer ones had.

 Grey Templar wrote:
In a way, I like that semi-realisim. If you know what your doing, you can get stuff easily right off the bat.

I meant more like dual-casting fire bolt at level 3/4. Win the game!

Could we actually have stats back? Cause that would be brilliant.

Must...resist...urge...to slag off console gamers.

Oh go ahead and do it. Consoles breed slag anyways.