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Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/23 23:07:09


Post by: Stormwall


Just stunning...


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 00:28:01


Post by: Gitsplitta


OK... that's just glorious! Mamma's got her groove back indeed.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 04:12:41


Post by: Wehrkind


Looks awesome!

Noob question; what are you using for masking the sword bits or whatever when you airbrush? I am shocked to see how clean and black that hilt is after all that spray! (And I have yet to do much more than base coat and zenithal highlight with my brush :()


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 04:19:02


Post by: weetyskemian44


OMG its full of stars...

Well sprayed ifalna, well sprayed. Doing anything special with the rune on the back?


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 05:32:20


Post by: Ifalna


GiraffeX wrote:The image is fine Iffy, looking stunning so far


Cheers dude Sometimes, when I enter a thread with a fullsize image, my browser stretches to try and fit it and starts side scrolling, but not often, so I wasn't sure if it was meant to scale to browser size or not as the intended behaviour

Stormwall wrote: Just stunning...

Gitsplitta wrote:OK... that's just glorious! Mamma's got her groove back indeed.


Thanks so much guys, the shots aren't great as I was painting him for 8 hours and half dead, but I'll be able to get better ones as he progresses and gets a bit more contrasting for the camera to see

The best part of the photo is the black bevelled edge along just the bottom. No idea how it got there. Can't even see an option for that in Gimp. It's stunning.

Wehrkind wrote:Looks awesome!
Noob question; what are you using for masking the sword bits or whatever when you airbrush? I am shocked to see how clean and black that hilt is after all that spray! (And I have yet to do much more than base coat and zenithal highlight with my brush :()


I use the king of office supplies!



Just make sure the paint is super dry before pressing it on. A quick go over with a hairdryer should do the trick

weetyskemian44 wrote:OMG its full of stars...
Well sprayed ifalna, well sprayed. Doing anything special with the rune on the back?


Haha

I think I'm gonna do it up to glowing turqoise like the lens and sword, he has a super limited colour palette so the only other option would be up to white which I don't think would suit as well.




Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 06:27:39


Post by: inmygravenimage


Looks super beautiful m'dear but... mold lines on the top doodahs!


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 08:15:08


Post by: Ifalna


Omg, I know, so frustrating :(

They aren't even mold lines, they are like, gaps?

He was surprisingly gappy for such a lovely figure, and the majorty of the joints have a relatively obvious seam. I tried filling and filing them down a little but have no greenstuff so they are still visible which is very annoying.

Do GW still sell that awesome liquid Greenstuff?

I really liked that, it was great for filling in and then scratching off excess later


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 08:19:31


Post by: angelofvengeance


 Ifalna wrote:
Omg, I know, so frustrating :(

They aren't even mold lines, they are like, gaps?

He was surprisingly gappy for such a lovely figure, and the majorty of the joints have a relatively obvious seam. I tried filling and filing them down a little but have no greenstuff so they are still visible which is very annoying.

Do GW still sell that awesome liquid Greenstuff?

I really liked that, it was great for filling in and then scratching off excess later


Yeah they do still have the liquid Greenstuff


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/24 08:21:53


Post by: Ifalna


Brilliant, gonna get me some of that.

I find greenstuff hard to work with, but that suff is so good for filling tiny gaps without leaving a noticeable bump.

That was my biggest gripe with this lad. The kit is gorgeous and fits together really well, but there are quite a few gaps which is super frustrating.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 11:41:45


Post by: Ifalna


 Ifalna wrote:
Ah well, can't wait to get going on those big black/red gems!


3 hours on them last night, only 2 layers down.



Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 12:03:44


Post by: LeCacty


Why is every wraithknight sexy as feth?


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 12:05:54


Post by: Ifalna


 LeCacty wrote:
Why is every wraithknight sexy as feth?


Dem hips.


I think it's because they are so big and with such smooth surfaces, that they look good even not painted at all


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 12:19:46


Post by: weetyskemian44


Fwoar look at those curves... "GET YOUR WRAITH SWORD OUT!!!"


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 12:28:48


Post by: Gitsplitta


I hate to say this Iffy... but I think nearly all of those are just supposed to be covers over instrument packages and such & are typically painted the same way as the rest of the body. The only actual gem on the model is the big thing on his chest and the framed ovals on his sword & shield. I'm sure they'll all look wonderful as gems (I made the mistake of doing something similar long ago on a wraith lord) but you probably made things much tougher on yourself than it needed to be.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 12:39:16


Post by: Ifalna


You are totally right, he has tiny gems, medium sized ones that I think are meant to be gems, and then massive ovals which look more like design choices to emphasise curves and bodyshape (yowza)

I just really wanted them all to be gems to add the extra oomph of contrast. It was a fun idea till I realised how.. many.. there.. are..

I do think the GW paintjobs on these are lazy though. Look at the shoulder spires, those are definitely meant to be gems, or they would be random lumps and bumps.

The GW paintjobs totally ignore them which is a shame



Wheras this one to me looks way better, like the models detailing aint being ignored



Someone spent a long time sculpting those, it's a shame to not pick them out I think :(


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 13:02:17


Post by: Solar_lion


I agree with Gits. Though a nice paint job the ' all gems painted' version looks too much like a 'lite bright'

Too each their own. Let see what you do and if your can change my mind!


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 13:09:52


Post by: Gitsplitta


Wow, talk about a lazy paintjob... that wraithknight... uugh.

But, I get you Iffy. Like I said... I've already done it because I felt that way too. But it does make the painting take forever.

See guy on right...
Spoiler:


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 13:43:18


Post by: Ifalna


Solar_lion wrote:I agree with Gits. Though a nice paint job the ' all gems painted' version looks too much like a 'lite bright'
Too each their own. Let see what you do and if your can change my mind!


I think having that many, that bright, with a glow on top, does overpower things a wee bit alright.

My plan with this was to have dark red/black gems like on the Fire Prism which I hope will add to it and not overpower it, but it's going to be exciting to see how it progresses

This dude is still technically a tester for the scheme, his whites are gonna be shadowed too after some awesome feedback I got.

Gitsplitta wrote:Wow, talk about a lazy paintjob... that wraithknight... uugh.


So much time taken on the edging and blending, then so much detail ignored, such a shame I think!

Gitsplitta wrote:But, I get you Iffy. Like I said... I've already done it because I felt that way too. But it does make the painting take forever.
See guy on right...
Spoiler:


He looks so great to me though, I think it can be worth it!

Just a bit if a labor of love :(

A lot of labor.

Too much.



Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 14:07:14


Post by: Wehrkind


 Ifalna wrote:

Wehrkind wrote:Looks awesome!
Noob question; what are you using for masking the sword bits or whatever when you airbrush? I am shocked to see how clean and black that hilt is after all that spray! (And I have yet to do much more than base coat and zenithal highlight with my brush :()


I use the king of office supplies!



Just make sure the paint is super dry before pressing it on. A quick go over with a hairdryer should do the trick



Gotta get some of that. I have white poster tac that is... ok. Sorta. I also need to find a cheapo hairdryer for this and heat curing molds. I have a feeling the lady wife would object to me making the basement her hairdryer's new home!

If you are really serious about the gems, paint them and the surroundings to look like little meteors flying through the space of his body. Which I think is a Moby song?


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 14:32:06


Post by: Mymearan


Actually there is fluff saying only some of the Eldar bumps are gems, the rest are housings for equipment etc. personally I like a few gems painted, but that blue Wraithknight looks like a Christmas tree


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 14:48:42


Post by: Wehrkind


Really, it is just lotus seeds.

Spoiler:


Giant, Wraith Knight sized lotus seeds.



Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 15:03:57


Post by: Ifalna


 Mymearan wrote:
Actually there is fluff saying only some of the Eldar bumps are gems, the rest are housings for equipment etc. personally I like a few gems painted, but that blue Wraithknight looks like a Christmas tree


Are you implying they are some kind of..

lumpy..

space..

prince..esses?


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 15:58:00


Post by: Mymearan


 Wehrkind wrote:
Really, it is just lotus seeds.

[img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/8d/a1/34/8da134f026126aba25fc6515ffffec5b.jp]

Giant, Wraith Knight sized lotus seeds.


(Expletives) DONT DO THAT

Edited by RiTides - Language, please!



Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 21:14:26


Post by: Ifalna


I have a pretty quick recipe for gems but there are so many on this thing that it is taking 5ever.

I really want to move on and start offsetting the reds with some turquoise and his whites but they still have quite a way to go, and all the gems on the weapons have still to be done! Jaysus.

The good thing is that the reds are emphasising his other colours while not making him look much brighter.

Once the whites are down, they will bring out the blacks, but I am reaching that point now where I want to see him finished and trying not to lose patience as each stage is such a slow process on such a giant model.

I like these shots cause you can really see the little galaxy I put a lot of effort into on his front groin plate.

The groin is the most important plate.



Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 21:27:58


Post by: RiTides


Wow, that is looking really good! I definitely agree with the "paint all the gems" approach you've taken, but only because you've done them in a nicely subdued manner - very well done


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 21:37:37


Post by: Ifalna


I swear I'm getting 50/50 "I love them all being painted!" and "Those are way too many gems!" hahaha

This is great though, I love how everyone has different tastes and I think I'm going to hold out on my final opinion of the gems until everything is finished, as I think the glowing turquoise and his whites are going to overpower them a bit in the end and they won't be as noticeable as they are right now.

This guy is still technically a test for this scheme as I'm painting up a full wraithhost with it in the next couple of months, so the next lad might end up with way less gems ^^


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 21:43:43


Post by: inmygravenimage


Allllllllll the gems looks amazing.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 23:05:02


Post by: Dr H


Yeah, one of my issues with GW is that they cram on details on their models just for the sake of it, and then give no reasoning for what most of them are.

And then they don't tell the painters what to do (or maybe they do), and the "official" paint-jobs don't do the models justice. Case in point, the gems or not gems on all the Eldar stuff. Also something I noticed when I came to paint one, the DV Helbrute; they spent all that time to sculpt tons of fleshy details on the model, and then paint the whole thing red with no difference between the armour and the flesh...

Speaking of gems, I like to do a split of some as gems and some as armour bumps (for gear etc.).

You're doing a lovely job on that knight, If'. Keep it up.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/25 23:19:05


Post by: whalemusic360


 Ifalna wrote:

This guy is still technically a test for this scheme as I'm painting up a full wraithhost with it in the next couple of months, so the next lad might end up with way less gems ^^


Unacceptable. You must gem all the gems that can be gemed at this point.

I think your scheme, both the starscape and the gems, form a cohesive look. It's pretty stellar! I may have already made that joke.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/26 05:58:48


Post by: Mymearan


Well... I guess you proved me wrong about the gems!


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/26 07:07:12


Post by: GiraffeX


Looking great so far Iffy and yes all the jems must be done.


Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/26 16:54:50


Post by: Ifalna


inmygravenimage wrote:Allllllllll the gems looks amazing.


Yay

Oh man, I think they could look really awful if they were all super glowy with this scheme. If you had a totally Matte black WK with extremely bright gems with an extreme fluroescent edging on the plates though, that could look.. really.. cool.

Hmmmmmmm.....

Dr H wrote:Yeah, one of my issues with GW is that they cram on details on their models just for the sake of it, and then give no reasoning for what most of them are.
And then they don't tell the painters what to do (or maybe they do), and the "official" paint-jobs don't do the models justice. Case in point, the gems or not gems on all the Eldar stuff. Also something I noticed when I came to paint one, the DV Helbrute; they spent all that time to sculpt tons of fleshy details on the model, and then paint the whole thing red with no difference between the armour and the flesh...


I know what you mean.

I rarely think the GW schemes I see are ever my favourites, the skill of the paint jobs is always top notch, but I feel they have to play it safe a fair bit.

While I love this WK, there are likely a lot of silent viewers who think it is horribly over the top, and they are totally justified in that. With GW, I think playing it safe with some figures is there way of getting the most out of them.

The people who want psychedelic, explosive colour schemes are going to paint them that way anyway, but the folks who like things less gaudy get to see the models the way they like em.

I'm rambling now but I hope that makes a bit of sense

Dr H wrote:Speaking of gems, I like to do a split of some as gems and some as armour bumps (for gear etc.).
You're doing a lovely job on that knight, If'. Keep it up.


Thrilled you like him, pal. I love the idea of Wraithbone, that it is basically living, energised crystal that grows and pulses.

If I had the skills, I would paint one of these things entirely as a giant crystalline construct with lightning pulsing under the glass, but I'd have no idea how.

I sometimes can see designs I think would be really awesome in my head, but have no idea how to bring them to reality, which is a bit cruddy, but I feel like I'm getting better at putting my ideas down onto figures nowadays

whalemusic360 wrote:
Unacceptable. You must gem all the gems that can be gemed at this point.
I think your scheme, both the starscape and the gems, form a cohesive look. It's pretty stellar! I may have already made that joke.


YES SIR. BAD PUN SIR.

Mymearan wrote:Well... I guess you proved me wrong about the gems!


Haha, I'm happy to dissapoint ^^

GiraffeX wrote:Looking great so far Iffy and yes all the jems must be done.


Gonna! All of em!

I do have a question though, and I've been thinking about this since last night.

The scheme in essence is:

  • Black

  • White

  • Loads of blues of various shades

  • Turquoise

  • Red



  • It's pretty simple while remaining effective, but I might need one extra colour for this guy.

    He has problematic areas, areas where if they are highlighted with white or turquoise, it's not going to sit well with the colours around it.

    His Soul Gems filligree setting around it for instance, and the rune strip on his scatter shield, if either of those are white or turq, they aren't going to work that well in my opinion.

    I was thinking that considering the colors, and also considering how revered and important to the Eldar the idea of a Wraithknight is, that I might be ok to add some gold leaf to those kind of areas.

    It would be one extra colour, but I think between it, the red, the blues and the black, it could look extremely striking. He has a huge amount of areas on him at the moment that are currently the Galaxy base but are going to be turq, like the area between his collar and breastplate, his joints etc, and in my minds eye, he is missing a little extra that I think the gold leaf could really pull out, especially as it is rich, brassy gold.

    Any ideas or opinions on that?

    I'd love to hear some


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/30 09:40:25


    Post by: Ifalna


    D3 patch absorbed my life for the last couple of days, but I'm feeling super creative today and will get some more work done by tonight

    Hope everyone is having /had a great weekend!


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/31 13:37:11


    Post by: Ifalna


    Quick wee updated on the WK

    Had a lot of RSI pain in my right wrist for the last couple of weeks and got some great advice on how to try and minimise it while painting today.

    A combo of working 9 hours a day typing, and then painting in my free time is causing some real pain, but hopefully with the advice I've gotten, it will improve soon and I won't have to head to a phisio.

    Gonna continue on and get the rest finished up on my lunchbreak now, then on to some work on the golds which are still just 1 layer and a wash, the gems took forever but they turned out with just enough contrast I think!



    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/31 14:01:33


    Post by: Nevelon


    Wow. Love your work.

    Is it wrong that when I look at the WK’s waist, I think it looks like a lightbulb? I want to screw him into a socket and watch all the gems light up.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/08/31 15:28:18


    Post by: Gitsplitta


    Beautiful work. Can't have too many gems.

    And yes... lightbulb.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/01 14:28:00


    Post by: Ifalna


    Nevelon wrote:Wow. Love your work.

    Is it wrong that when I look at the WK’s waist, I think it looks like a lightbulb? I want to screw him into a socket and watch all the gems light up.


    Gitsplitta wrote:Beautiful work. Can't have too many gems.

    And yes... lightbulb.


    Haha thank you guys, he really does look like a really worrying lightbulb especially when held upside down!!!

    Kinda want to.. try .. but he would just melt and I would have many regrets :(

    I got some more work on him last night and the golds are finished, and his turqoises are starting up.



    I can't wait to start on some icey blue or perhaps grey based whites.

    Not sure which yet, but it's going to be fun

    Turquoise is going to be very strong and bright to offset the fades and clouds on the armor and I'm really looking forward to seeing it develop!

    I also got my apology size 1 S7 from W&N today, being modelled here by warm cat, my wrist warmer:



    Never used a size 1 before, so breaking this in will be interesting

    Last but not least, I'm going to sell the fire prism now instead of with the host, as the theme has evolved enough that it won't really fit in with the rest.

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/-/221869471736 is the link (Mods, am I allowed post this in this section? Give me a poke if I'm not!!)

    Hope everyone has had a great last few days


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/01 19:08:04


    Post by: GiraffeX


    Looking fantastic so far Iffy, nice cat as well.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/01 21:06:55


    Post by: Solar_lion


    Very nicely done.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/02 07:59:14


    Post by: weetyskemian44


    I had some problems with the hand pain, what with my day job involving a touch screen (poke/jab/punch screen). I find it worse in winter so maybe there is something to a wrist warmer?

    If I had more moolah I would buy that WK so hard...


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/04 19:57:00


    Post by: Cleatus


    Amazing work. Subscribed.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/07 21:01:22


    Post by: Dr H


    Coming soon to a GW near you: Wraithknight light-bulbs...

    Nice job on the scheme. The gold works really well with the gems and star-field.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/07 21:52:46


    Post by: Knightley


    I do think the gold adds great colour to the WK, I too am getting sucked in with the latest D3 patch, rolled a DH this patch and quite enjoying it!


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/10 20:40:39


    Post by: Ifalna


    I'm really happy the golds went down well, sometimes ideas that seem good just don't pan out when you get them down on a figure, so I was a bit wary, but happy with him now

    Been away from painting for a bit as I had family visiting, but my new supplies have arrived and I'm looking forward to some this weekend!

    Being able to paint when I feel like painting and not feeling pressured to do it all the time has really, really opened my eyes about why I burned out so badly. I'm sitting down and enjoying myself so much when I paint now, it has made a genuinely crazy difference.

    Knightley, DH has been my fave since release, I still play them almost exclusively ^^ Picking at the seasonal achievements at the mo so I can get the doggy and icon!


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/22 13:24:09


    Post by: Ifalna


    Hi guys, super quick update cause I dont want anyone to think I've stopped painting or anything again, just got a few things on the backburner to take care of at the moment and so while I'm super looking forward to finishing mr WK, I'm not painting him while I'm tired or stressed from work and also not beating myself up for not doing it, which has made a maaaaasive difference and left me feeling super excited about painting all the time ^^

    Doing an 8 day work week this week but I really want to finish his turqoise at least, and test out that lovely size 0! Hoping I might have some time in the evening soon ^^


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/22 14:39:29


    Post by: Master Azalle


    Wow, Beautifully Done!


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/22 15:02:12


    Post by: Gitsplitta


    Good to hear Iffy. Glad to hear that your managing your time to enjoy the process.


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/22 18:25:17


    Post by: Ifalna


     Gitsplitta wrote:
    Good to hear Iffy. Glad to hear that your managing your time to enjoy the process.


    Thank you Gits, it was something I was doing totally wrong in the past, and has made a massive difference.

    Previously, if I had some stuff that I had to put in front of painting or had no inspiration, every time I would see the figures I would feel my stomach drop, and feel dread and guilt at needing to paint them ASAP, whereas now, every time I see him I'm excited and can't wait to get more work on him done when I have the window, which is just a much better place to be mentally ^^


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/09/22 19:32:40


    Post by: Solar_lion


    Good healthy attitude! It a very impressive paint job you should be feeling good about it!


    Re:Ifalna's minis - Celestial WraithKnight Update + Fire Prism for sale @ 2015/11/25 22:48:19


    Post by: TerrorLegion


    Update? I really want to see this WK together!