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Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 01:04:11


Post by: JHall




Alien Dungeon is pleased to officially announce Fanticide! This exciting new 28mm Fantasy Skirmish Game features warbands battling across the twisted landscapes of the plane Nowhere.

The game rules have been written by Rick Priestley, Alessio Cavatore, Andy Chambers, and Ernest Baker.

The full announcement along with loads of details about the game can be found here:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/04/announcing-fanticide.html

Starting next week, we will be previewing the models, rules, setting, and more. This game is sure to provide something for everyone so please check it out! The game will have four (4) complete Warbands with full miniature ranges at launch. A wonderfully unique facet of the game is a full Warband Creation System and Open Architecture so you can play with any models you choose and make the warband you want to play with!

The game is slated for June release, so please check out the previews until then.



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 01:20:38


Post by: Quintinus


Color me interested, even if it's only for the juggernaut of a design team!

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 02:23:13


Post by: Dez


I think I just sold all my skirmish games for this


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 02:27:44


Post by: JHall


Check out an interview that Beasts of War did with Rick and Alessio at Salute 2012!

http://www.beastsofwar.com/salute/salute-2012/win-fanticide-rules/


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 03:52:43


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Great news, wish them the best of luck.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 04:14:45


Post by: JHall


If anyone has any questions about the game, please feel free to ask. In case you were not aware, I am the Promotions Manager for Alien Dungeon and Architects of War and I will be happy to tell you all that I can about this awesome new game!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 04:29:55


Post by: bbb


JHall wrote:Check out an interview that Beasts of War did with Rick and Alessio at Salute 2012!

http://www.beastsofwar.com/salute/salute-2012/win-fanticide-rules/


They had me at the reference to The Lost and the Damned... I'll have to check it out.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 04:38:19


Post by: Sinjin


Are there plans for any kind of experience building campaign system like Mordheim and Necromunda?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 04:39:43


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


JHall wrote:If anyone has any questions about the game, please feel free to ask. In case you were not aware, I am the Promotions Manager for Alien Dungeon and Architects of War and I will be happy to tell you all that I can about this awesome new game!


How can it be 30-40 models per side and still a skirmish scale game?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 04:54:10


Post by: Quintinus


JHall wrote:If anyone has any questions about the game, please feel free to ask. In case you were not aware, I am the Promotions Manager for Alien Dungeon and Architects of War and I will be happy to tell you all that I can about this awesome new game!


Any chance I could get a signed rulebook? (Kinda serious)
Or is there any way that I could purchase one that is signed?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 06:16:11


Post by: Motortree


Wow, that's very cool. Will definitely be picking this up, I think.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 06:48:14


Post by: lord_blackfang


Alessio Cavatore

Stopped reading there.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 07:11:17


Post by: Kilkrazy


MasterSlowPoke wrote:
JHall wrote:If anyone has any questions about the game, please feel free to ask. In case you were not aware, I am the Promotions Manager for Alien Dungeon and Architects of War and I will be happy to tell you all that I can about this awesome new game!


How can it be 30-40 models per side and still a skirmish scale game?


Skirmish scale means one figure per individual soldier.

40K is technically a skirmish game.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 08:47:14


Post by: VermGho5t


Holy crap, Andy Chambers? Last I heard he was working for Blizzard on WoW. I might be interested in this game.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 09:08:56


Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti


MasterSlowPoke wrote:
JHall wrote:If anyone has any questions about the game, please feel free to ask. In case you were not aware, I am the Promotions Manager for Alien Dungeon and Architects of War and I will be happy to tell you all that I can about this awesome new game!


How can it be 30-40 models per side and still a skirmish scale game?


See LOTR


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 10:01:48


Post by: NAVARRO


Sounds like great fun up until they said 30-40 minis... half that would be perfect... then the minis, yuck I really dont like what I see on BOW vid...


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 10:58:16


Post by: AlexHolker


The only part that looked at all interesting was the little Fae. Everything else - from the gak-flinging flying monkeys to the praises sung of metal - puts me off.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 11:16:52


Post by: Kroothawk


Small bow to their former employer:
Not sanitized, market driven, “our figures or else” Mega Game Mart style, but just plain old miniature madness from the slime covered super metal halls of Alien Dungeon.
(...)
We are proud to be working with Eureka Miniatures on this, and they have done a bang up job of well executed, easy and fast to paint models anyone can get a good result with. No, they aren’t plastic or resin but durable, heavy, cleanly cast metal! (Ok, a few of the BIG models have resin components, but they are very finely cast).
(...)
Allows you to play fantasy games without investing hundreds of dollars into a single army


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 11:29:05


Post by: Void_walker


Sounds interesting...just a few big names there.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 11:40:40


Post by: Pacific


Sounds interesting, and like others have said it has a 'super group' design team.

30-40 minis is OK I think for a skirmish, although on the upper limit of that.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 12:34:19


Post by: JHall


Thanks for the comments everyone. I wanted to address a few points:

30-40 Models & Skirmish - While 30-40 models may be a "standard" sized game, the rules allow you to play lots of different size games easily. We will be showcasing a few other warbands in the rulebook using other companies' models (Warlord, Otherworld, etc.) that are of differing sizes. You will see that you can play anything you like!

Miniatures - Individual tastes will always vary on what kinds of models people like. One great thing about this rules set(as well as the eventual tournament play and more) is that you can use anything you want to play the game! With the Warband Creation rules in the book, take whatever models you like and want to paint and craft a warband for the battlefield! That being said, you have only seen 3 brief pics of models so far, and when you see some of the other stuff coming out and the paint jobs on them, please be open minded and give it a chance for the official warbands as well!

Campaign system - We are planning a campaign system that will allow for warband advancement similar to Mordheim or Necromunda where the warband gains advances and other benefits.

The energy level on the rules and gameplay from all involved is amazing right now. I think when you get a chance to play the game you will see why!

Jeff


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 12:40:26


Post by: notprop


Are there any games not being written by Rick Priestley and Alessio Cavatore at the moment?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 12:48:18


Post by: NAVARRO


I like the sound of creating my own warband with the models that I like thats why I like Songs of blades and heroes... and I'm totally open minded to any new minis, wish I could say I was impressed with the monkeys but sadly I was not... maybe next ones are better IMO.

OH, big question does the game scales down well for 15mm? or is it just not doable?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 13:07:17


Post by: Hellfury


This looks just like "A Song of Blades and Heroes".

The following questions assume that the designers are aware of that design and the similarity between the two.

Jeff, if people are using the rather good ASoBaH ruleset, what makes this game so good that we as consumers should use these instead?

What advantages do players have with this ruleset?
Can I use this in hex? Multiple scales?

How does the complexity of this compare to ASoBaH?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 13:40:38


Post by: JHall


I have never played A Song of Blades and Heroes, so I am not sure. This particular rule set can be used in different scales. The rules are written for 28mm, but work well in 15mm and other scales.
One of the big factors with Fanticide is the Card based initiative system. This allows for very dynamic gameplay. It also incorporates an Event deck that has cards added to the initiative deck for events to take place each turn. The magic system allows for manipulation of the deck through Time magic and others that can provide many tactically challenging scenarios.
Additionally, the game will be fully supported with an entire model range, tournament play, web downloads, and more. We have full distribution and support from a number of partners to provide extensive sales and customer support for the game as well.
We will be providing many different previews over the coming weeks to highlight different areas of the rules so that everyone can see exactly what we have to offer!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 14:14:52


Post by: scarletsquig


What kind of art style and background are you going with for this?

I'm a huge fan of late 80's fighting fantasy/ lone wolf style gamebooks and D&D artwork and that sort of 80's fantasy artwork and downright bizarre dark fantasy world settings.. have been waiting for a game that brings some of that back.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 14:26:37


Post by: Cyporiean


notprop wrote:Are there any games not being written by Rick Priestley and Alessio Cavatore at the moment?


Several, you'd just have to buy a American game


Not a fan of the current model pics, but I'll wait until things are actually released to judge fully.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 14:41:04


Post by: JHall


scarletsquig wrote:What kind of art style and background are you going with for this?

I'm a huge fan of late 80's fighting fantasy/ lone wolf style gamebooks and D&D artwork and that sort of 80's fantasy artwork and downright bizarre dark fantasy world settings.. have been waiting for a game that brings some of that back.


That is definitely an influence! We are very pleased to say that we have Tony Ackland as one of our artists on the rulebook. For those who are not familiar with that name, Mr. Ackland did a lot of the early Rogue Trader artwork and Slaves to Darkness drawings! So we definitely have a classic styling and great direction for what we want to do with the game!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 14:59:32


Post by: cpt_fishcakes


Cyporiean wrote:

Not a fan of the current model pics, but I'll wait until things are actually released to judge fully.


The models shown are all from different manufacturers, I spotted a few Reaper ones in there. I dont think there in any way "official" Fanticide models.

Very interested in this, particularly the blurb about building any kind of warband you want.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 14:59:42


Post by: Quintinus


JHall wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:What kind of art style and background are you going with for this?

I'm a huge fan of late 80's fighting fantasy/ lone wolf style gamebooks and D&D artwork and that sort of 80's fantasy artwork and downright bizarre dark fantasy world settings.. have been waiting for a game that brings some of that back.


That is definitely an influence! We are very pleased to say that we have Tony Ackland as one of our artists on the rulebook. For those who are not familiar with that name, Mr. Ackland did a lot of the early Rogue Trader artwork and Slaves to Darkness drawings! So we definitely have a classic styling and great direction for what we want to do with the game!




Even if I don't play this game, I'm getting it for the artwork, dead serious.
Do you have any plans on getting Ian Miller to do any of the artwork? I think he'd be perfect for the sound of this game. For my own miniature game, I'm considering hiring him to do artwork. He's probably one of my favorite artists.

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 16:08:40


Post by: spiralingcadaver


Vladsimpaler wrote:Ian Miller

Wow, someone else remembers this guy? I love his bizarre comics so much... while things have changed a lot since then, they were part of what got me interested in what you could do with a graphic novel.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 16:54:09


Post by: His Master's Voice


JHall wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:What kind of art style and background are you going with for this?

I'm a huge fan of late 80's fighting fantasy/ lone wolf style gamebooks and D&D artwork and that sort of 80's fantasy artwork and downright bizarre dark fantasy world settings.. have been waiting for a game that brings some of that back.


That is definitely an influence! We are very pleased to say that we have Tony Ackland as one of our artists on the rulebook. For those who are not familiar with that name, Mr. Ackland did a lot of the early Rogue Trader artwork and Slaves to Darkness drawings! So we definitely have a classic styling and great direction for what we want to do with the game!


And here I was thinking about dropping you a line about a possible illustration gig. Guess there's no point...


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 17:43:44


Post by: Quintinus


spiralingcadaver wrote:
Vladsimpaler wrote:Ian Miller

Wow, someone else remembers this guy? I love his bizarre comics so much... while things have changed a lot since then, they were part of what got me interested in what you could do with a graphic novel.


Yeah man, his illustrations were some of the weirdest/most disturbing things I've ever seen, and that's precisely why I love them so much. One of his stories was really funny, about being told that his artwork was some of the ugliest stuff that his professor had ever seen.

Ian Miller is niche but had some of the most detailed artwork that I've ever seen. Hopefully Fanticide will enlist him at some point!

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 19:50:49


Post by: frozenwastes


I'll definitely take a look at this. I play Song of Blades & Heroes and this looks to be about having around twice the models on the field as that game.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2018/04/29 09:18:39


Post by: d-usa


cpt_fishcakes wrote:
Cyporiean wrote:

Not a fan of the current model pics, but I'll wait until things are actually released to judge fully.


The models shown are all from different manufacturers, I spotted a few Reaper ones in there. I dont think there in any way "official" Fanticide models.

Very interested in this, particularly the blurb about building any kind of warband you want.


So if I understand things right, you could even use Brushfire minis to play this game. It's a ruleset that is independent of having to use a particular manufacturer.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/29 22:01:36


Post by: RiTides


d-usa wrote:So if I understand things right, you could even use Brushfire minis to play this game. It's a ruleset that is independent of having to use a particular manufacturer.

Yeah, I thought of that, too!

Miniatures are at 6:30 in the BoW video linked to earlier (here if you missed it).

Wasn't too interested in the few minis shown, although it was interesting how different they were (flying monkeys, then some tiny pixies? or the like on a base with mushrooms, much much smaller). But I'm interested in hearing more about the rules, for sure...




Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/30 10:21:16


Post by: Kroothawk


The flying monkey are just old Eureka Miniatures (which is now partner of Fanticide), not special Fanticide miniatures. But as the rules dream of old times (as always with Rick and Alessio), it fits to chose a miniature line wth the cheap 80/90s style.

And being more a fluff/miniature interested person, this "take everything you like" thing sounds unattractive, not to speak of game balance.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/04/30 14:36:15


Post by: Sucio Sanchez


I was interested until they talked about monkeys flinging poo. Was this just a joke? Did I miss something?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 19:19:17


Post by: Eilif


Hellfury wrote:This looks just like "A Song of Blades and Heroes".

The following questions assume that the designers are aware of that design and the similarity between the two.

Jeff, if people are using the rather good ASoBaH ruleset, what makes this game so good that we as consumers should use these instead?


JHall wrote:I have never played A Song of Blades and Heroes, so I am not sure. This particular rule set can be used in different scales. The rules are written for 28mm, but work well in 15mm and other scales.
One of the big factors with Fanticide is the Card based initiative system. This allows for very dynamic gameplay. It also incorporates an Event deck that has cards added to the initiative deck for events to take place each turn. The magic system allows for manipulation of the deck through Time magic and others that can provide many tactically challenging scenarios.


Song of blades is also playable in different scales and is made to be used with any miniatures. However, the infanticide card system sounds like enough to make the gameplay drastically different from SBH (Song of Blades and Heroes). I've not played any rulesets not made by "Ganesha Games" that function at all like SBH.

As someone who is a massive fan of SBH, I'm really interested in Fanticide. SBH really tops out once you get around 15 figures per player. I've played larger games...
http://chicagoskirmish.blogspot.com/2012/01/big-battles-in-song-of-blades-heroes.html
...but it takes a bit of rules tweaking. I'd really like to have a game that allows for the amount of figures (30-40) that Fanticide does that isn't aimed at mass battles like WFB or KoW. What really attracts my attention is the inclusion of a unit builder so I can stat up my own figs (one of the best things about SBH), I have exactly no interest in buying into another game that requires me to use their miniatures to play.

To JHall,
Sounds like a pretty cool product.

Is the game mechancs based around squads (like 40k) or based around individuals (like Mordheim)?

Also, don't take this the wrong way, but if you're the promotions manager for a generic (adaptable for any figures) fantasy skirmish wargame (Fanticide) then there is no excuse for not being familiar with SBH as it's probably the most popular independent generic, warband skirmish game out there. Alot of your interest could come from folks who have some experience with SBH.
8 bucks that could change your life: http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_6&products_id=7


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 19:47:08


Post by: Cyporiean


Eilif wrote: I'd really like to have a game that allows for the amount of figures (30-40) that Fanticide does that isn't aimed at mass battles like WFB or KoW.


Brushfire easily does that, as does Warmachine. But neither have the unit builder feature.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 20:05:43


Post by: Eilif


Cyporiean wrote:
Eilif wrote: I'd really like to have a game that allows for the amount of figures (30-40) that Fanticide does that isn't aimed at mass battles like WFB or KoW.


Brushfire easily does that, as does Warmachine. But neither have the unit builder feature.


Yep, the lack of a unit builder is the deal breaker for me. My miniature tastes are too wide, and my attention span to short to be tied to a single universe anymore. I have a real soft spot in my heart for fantasy sentient animals, but as cool as the setting and minis are, Brushfire is still another game that tells me what to play and what to buy. It's nice to see that Brushfire is less pricy than the rediculous cash-grab that is Warmachine, 40k, etc, but it still feels like a box to climb into.

Song of the Splintered Lands ...
http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?products_id=12



...on the other hand gives me an optional miniatures range and setting, but also an easy to use tool kit (even has a free online unit builder) for stating up my woodland warriors of many and varied brands. Though like SBH, it tops out around 15 models a side.


All that said, the Brushfire figs are intriguing and I might have a use for some. How tall are the hamster berzerkers (either sole to eye or sole to top)?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 20:18:06


Post by: Cyporiean


Eilif wrote:
All that said, the Brushfire figs are intriguing and I might have a use for some. How tall are the hamster berzerkers (either sole to eye or sole to top)?


The rulebook is only $1 for the pdf, and includes base sizes for everything (and a 'Photo copy this page' page of base blanks), so you can easily proxy and try the game out.

The Hamsters are about 30mm tall.


And if you'd like to continue talking about Brushfire, I suggest we go to its thread so as to not trample too much on Fanticide.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 20:20:18


Post by: Orinoco


are there videos or rules samples up? I want to know more about the system.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/01 22:17:21


Post by: JHall


Thanks for the continued feedback all. I hope your interest and passion continues as we roll out more info on the game. Coming this week - some background info on the setting and how that ties into the Warband Creation (why are all these things in this land??). We will also begin discussing the first elements of the rules system in the coming previews.

Keep an eye on the site this week for the next preview!

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/07 18:10:19


Post by: JHall


The next Preview is up for Fanticide! The Warband structure and some amazing art are now up for your viewing!

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/05/is-this-war-band-structure-for.html


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/08 04:17:25


Post by: theHandofGork


After reading the designers I am fairly sure I peed my pants a little bit.
I'm liking what I'm reading on the blog as well. Will def be buying this.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/08 13:45:50


Post by: Eilif


JHall wrote:The next Preview is up for Fanticide! The Warband structure and some amazing art are now up for your viewing!

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/05/is-this-war-band-structure-for.html


What's the size of the various grouping in this game?

It's now clear that it's a squad based game (would probably have to be if 30-40 with minis per side) which is not what I associate with the term "warband", but whatever.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/08 15:53:55


Post by: frozenwastes


"Warband" probably means more than 10 people. It's rather hard to do anything that you might call "war" without a lot more people. But it does conjure up an image of a leader and a single squad of guys, doesn't it?

30-40 models per side just might be the sweet spot for a lot of people. That was the typical model count of 40k in the 1990s when GW grew from a UK company to an international concern. And the model count that Warmachine/Hordes uses and they're still growing like crazy.

It might be the place to be as far as getting a decent number of figures on the table but not too many that people get exhausted before completing a , 50, 75 or 100+ miniature army.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/08 16:46:36


Post by: spiralingcadaver


Vladsimpaler wrote:[One of his stories was really funny, about being told that his artwork was some of the ugliest stuff that his professor had ever seen.

I'm glad someone else still likes him! I'm not familiar with that one-- what collection is it from, if you remember?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 16:56:39


Post by: JHall


Another Fanticide preview is up on our site:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/05/fanticide-in-10mm.html

Check out some of the latest greens we received from the sculptors!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 17:31:37


Post by: AlexHolker


The Brownies remain the most promising aspect of the game. I especially like the snail cavalry, even if it is impractical for obvious reasons.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 17:44:10


Post by: Eilif


Looks like some fun little minis. Nothing that particularly interests me, but the minis have almost nothing to do with my level of interest in the game. I'm mostly looking at Fanticide as a generic rulset for using the fantasy minis I've already collected.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 21:05:13


Post by: punkow


It looks very interesting... maybe i'll make my first deviation from 40k since the time of my confrontation Griffons....


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 22:50:14


Post by: RiTides


The snail cavalry is indeed cool from your latest link.



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/15 22:52:14


Post by: Hellfury


Eilif wrote:As someone who is a massive fan of SBH, I'm really interested in Fanticide. SBH really tops out once you get around 15 figures per player. I've played larger games...
http://chicagoskirmish.blogspot.com/2012/01/big-battles-in-song-of-blades-heroes.html
...but it takes a bit of rules tweaking. I'd really like to have a game that allows for the amount of figures (30-40) that Fanticide does that isn't aimed at mass battles like WFB or KoW. What really attracts my attention is the inclusion of a unit builder so I can stat up my own figs (one of the best things about SBH), I have exactly no interest in buying into another game that requires me to use their miniatures to play.


I can see where people may want to play more than a couple dozen figs in a game. I am not one of them, but there are times when it might be handy.

I'll stick with SoBaH though for my generic, anything goes skirmish system though. I rarely see the need for more models or more detailed rules and SoBaH seems to fit a nice medium weight sweet spot for me.
I hear you on dedicated miniatures for a specific rulesystem though.

I still buy models, but only models I like as opposed to models that a rule system tells me that I need.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/16 01:14:42


Post by: RiTides


I really like the idea of "squads" rather than single models acting independently... I have enough of that from other skirmish games, so squads appeals to me as far as speeding up gameplay and allowing the use of slightly more models.

Also wondering if my Brushfire models might work well for this, I think the options there go both ways



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/16 12:49:31


Post by: Palindrome


Is 'E.Skye Chaney' Andy Chamber's pseudonym?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/16 15:40:39


Post by: Grot 6


I loled just a little when I saw the GW reunion tour.

Are we to expect more of the fabled "Lost" rules of starship troopers in this game?

Not a bad beginning. Put me down for about a hundred of those flying monkeys.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/21 00:51:41


Post by: JHall


A new Table Fable is available at the Alien Dungeon site:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/05/table-fable-2-river-run.html

This battle report / game discussion covers an exciting River Run! Please check it out!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/21 01:13:09


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


JHall wrote:
That is definitely an influence! We are very pleased to say that we have Tony Ackland as one of our artists on the rulebook. For those who are not familiar with that name, Mr. Ackland did a lot of the early Rogue Trader artwork and Slaves to Darkness drawings! So we definitely have a classic styling and great direction for what we want to do with the game!


Tony Ackland is a legend. His artwork was inspiring to me as a boy as I read the 3rd edition WHFB rules and Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness.



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/21 14:47:28


Post by: Eilif


JHall wrote:A new Table Fable is available at the Alien Dungeon site:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/05/table-fable-2-river-run.html

This battle report / game discussion covers an exciting River Run! Please check it out!


Nice work. These Table Fable lessons are old hat for folks who have been mixing brands, eras, rules, etc for years, but it's great to see examples in-print from gaming companies.

I have an entire gaming club that's based around Sci-Fi and Fantasy gaming with generic gaming systems with whatever miniatures we choose. I really hope that Fanticide is released soon so that we can incorporate a couple games of it into our summer fantasy campaign which is mostly being played with Song of Blades and Heroes.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/21 14:55:56


Post by: Grot 6


How do you get this book for the game?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/25 15:37:49


Post by: JHall


More incredible artwork for Fanticide from the awesome Tony Ackland!



Check out all the latest at http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/28 14:55:42


Post by: Grot 6


This is some really great stuff.

Harkens back to the old school basic D and D days.

Love the minis. How long do they take to get from flash to bang, as far as I pay for the guys, How long to get them?

I'd really love to get in on some of these. If for anything to upgrade, and revisit old school D and D.

Those Trolls really take a guy back.


Where are those darned D and D cartoons at!!!!!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/29 10:21:31


Post by: Azazelx


Seems interesting. I'd likely set up a couple of old-school chaos warbands with my old RoC-era chaos figures and some of the newer ones, along with all of the other fantasy figures I've bought over the years (despite not playing Fantasy Battles) simply because they looked nice.



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/29 11:44:57


Post by: protocolture


I have SO MANY Dark Elves that have stopped getting play time due to various reasons. Would happily bring 30-40 out for a game like this.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/05/29 11:59:08


Post by: zedmeister


First, how did I miss this?

Second, wow. What a line up of names. Also: "whimsically grim", "lots of off colour jokes" and "parental discretion is advised"!

Third, I'm in. Where do I put my money?

And forth. What's happening lately? Old GW gaming celebs returning with some tasty products? Alessio and some of the old guard with Mantic, Mike McVey with Sedition Wars and now Rick/Andy/Alessio with this! Time to ebay off even more GW models to fund these new shiney's!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/06/08 17:36:10


Post by: Mad4Minis


JHall wrote:
One of the big factors with Fanticide is the Card based initiative system. This allows for very dynamic gameplay. It also incorporates an Event deck that has cards added to the initiative deck for events to take place each turn. The magic system allows for manipulation of the deck through Time magic and others that can provide many tactically challenging scenarios.


Sad to say that is where you lost me. Im all for new ideas in gaming, but to me this sounds like playing a CCG and minis game at the same time...and Ive got no interest in card games.

I will give you big credit for the creation system...my current favorite 28mm game has one, and thats a big part of its appeal...along with good rules.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 01:09:59


Post by: JHall


Sorry for the lack of updates lately. We have been furiously working on all the final additions to the game and it is on the horizon! We have just unveiled the Creeps warband and I wanted to make sure you guys saw them:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/07/this-mother-creeps-us-out.html







Loads of additional Fanticide information coming over the next few weeks about ordering, release, and more! Stay tuned!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 01:16:37


Post by: adamsouza


They look Toung in Cheek over the top bad on purpose kinda terrible in a muppet sort of way.

Every time I look at that group picture I expec them to break out in song.



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 01:23:22


Post by: JHall


Also, the full Official Alien Dungeon Website is now live! Head on over for:

Forums
Product Gallery
Gameplay Videos
Hobby Content
and much, much more!

http://www.aliendungeon.com


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 11:03:45


Post by: Grot 6


A game that would pop out flying moneys and gibbering eyeballs, should as a matter of course have violent lawn gnomes.


Still interested.... kinda even more so, now.

How do those guys come in a set, the armies for this game, so far, by the army, box, sprue, or ?


All in all, pretty cool loking guys. May have to get some extras for some Pulp City.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 11:42:41


Post by: AlexHolker


Honestly, the only thing I can think to say about the Creeps is "like a Beholder, but worse." The Brownie cavalry are good, and the other Fae and Centaurs have potential (except for the treemen), but there's nothing in the other two factions I like.

Grot 6 wrote:How do those guys come in a set, the armies for this game, so far, by the army, box, sprue, or ?

They're going to be metal so not by the sprue, at least.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 13:03:36


Post by: Azazelx


The stuff about the game itself (especially the use whatever models you like for Chaos Warband-esque fun) appeals to me. The models, less so.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 14:08:25


Post by: bbb


Yeah, I haven't really liked any of the models I've seen so far, but I like who is involved in the project and I like the artwork from the Ancible review and the setting sounds fun, so, I'm hoping that the game plays well and the warband creation rules are great.

Eventually I hope they make some models I'm interested in, but till then, I've got plenty of random things I can use and have wanted to use.

I have a buddy who wants to play warhammer 8th, but being able to create a warband would probably appeal to him so I'm thinking about seeing if he'd be interested in playing.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/10 17:57:13


Post by: Eilif


I'm also not terribly interested in the models so far. Fun sculpts, but not really my thiing.

However, outside of 40k, I don't worry about using a game's prescribed models. As long as the rules end up being good and have a good mechanism for statting up your own warbands, I'll still be buying this.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/11 15:41:56


Post by: Shrapnelsmile


zedmeister wrote:

Second, wow. What a line up of names. Also: "whimsically grim", "lots of off colour jokes" and "parental discretion is advised"!



Now that I am older this seems, after several hours of research, to potentially be what I want in a new game. The characters are whimsical, sort of "Pan's Labyrinth" on a strange trip and do indeed hearken back to old school D&D aesthetics and character. The fact the crew encourages warband creation and use of various miniature lines is even more appealing.
I feel I "get" what they are trying to do, and in a time of serious games that just feel redundant to me this is a welcome breath of fresh air from nowhere.

Keep up the info and preview pix, and thanks to the Alien Dungeon crew for doing something fun and boldly different.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/07/12 18:35:59


Post by: JHall


We are looking for people who are excited about Fanticide and miniature war gaming to help us promote and sell Alien Dungeon products.

The War Host program is now hiring people who are enthusiastic, not afraid to sell, and want to be part of the Alien Dungeon team.

The program is simple; Demonstrate the product to people, sell the product to people, and put a percentage of every sale you make into your own pocket.

You have the ability to sell to retailers as well. You could make a little money to fund your hobby or a lot of money to spend however you want! It is up to you.

If you are interested send an email to drew@aliendungeon.com (who is handling the program)


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/03 18:25:51


Post by: JHall


Our Fanticide previews continue!

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php/fanticide/fanticide-gameplay/magic

The book is almost done and loads of models are being cast (see here):
http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/08/fanticide-update-and-progress-report.html

The release date is just around the corner! Plus more updates next week on how you can get it in your hands. Stay tuned!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/04 03:59:32


Post by: Eilif


Glad to hear this is on track. I'll definitely be looking for next weeks announcement especially since as of last week I finally have enlarged my SBH warband to have enough figures painted up for a Fanticide-sized Warband!

Bring It!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/07 17:02:40


Post by: choasdwarflord


Lots of interesting stuff in here. Looking forward to it hitting the press. Lots of good info at historicon from the demos. System is pretty fast and furious. Oh yeah and the Monkeys can throw poop. lols


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/07 17:43:43


Post by: Thunderfrog


Dammit! It looks like Nurgle got ahold of this jolly fellow..






Anyways, I like the giant eyeball monster. It immiediately made me think of The Flying Purple People Eater.. without wings or a horn.. or fur.. and not.. well.. purple.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/09 14:23:24


Post by: JHall


Fanticide has gone to the printers! To celebrate we are offering two free Fae units on our blog. To have a chance at winnging, just head here:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2012/08/fanticide-figure-giveaway.html

It's the home stretch! Get ready!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/09 17:43:44


Post by: bbb


Jeff, will Fanticide be available from Amazon? I just got a gift cert via work and thought that might be a good use for it.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/10 16:55:58


Post by: choasdwarflord


Some interesting new artwork in the magic article was posted. Also a bit about the authors.

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/10 17:09:04


Post by: Grot 6


Anything going on with the Willy Wonka and the Oomalooma faction?

Another one you need is- The Fighting Lawn Gnomes.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/08/10 17:26:57


Post by: choasdwarflord


Ive got a Han Chinese warband I did up and have a Cthluhu cultist one that is on the painting table atm.

Lawn gnomes from would rock!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/10/22 18:38:26


Post by: JHall


We are pleased to announce that Fanticide is now available!

https://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=virtuemart&Itemid=564

Our webstore is up and running and waiting for orders! Kickstarter backers your products are shipping out! The wait is over! Order yours today.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/10/22 20:20:15


Post by: judgedoug


 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Vladsimpaler wrote:Ian Miller

Wow, someone else remembers this guy? I love his bizarre comics so much... while things have changed a lot since then, they were part of what got me interested in what you could do with a graphic novel.


I LOVE Ian Miller. I have a copy of Ratspike, signed (only by John Blanche, but I would give an arm to get Ian Miller to sign it too)


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 JHall wrote:
We are pleased to announce that Fanticide is now available!

https://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=virtuemart&Itemid=564

Our webstore is up and running and waiting for orders! Kickstarter backers your products are shipping out! The wait is over! Order yours today.


Awesome. I backed for the rulebook and the Creeps warband. Really looking forward to getting 'em.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/10/27 15:07:15


Post by: Shrapnelsmile


 JHall wrote:
We are pleased to announce that Fanticide is now available!

https://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=virtuemart&Itemid=564

Our webstore is up and running and waiting for orders! Kickstarter backers your products are shipping out! The wait is over! Order yours today.


My Creeps and Flying Monkeys are on the way! Excellent news.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/13 16:17:59


Post by: bkromptenburg


Just got my book from the kickstarter. Looks really good very impressed. The quality was high compared to some of the new current books like saga and musk and tomahawks which were B&W softcover folded staples paper.

Looking forward to digging old minis to use as warbands.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/13 16:54:16


Post by: judgedoug


my friend got his KS book and showed it to me. First impression: totally badass. Super high production values and fantastic art.

I'm still waiting on mine, he just got the book pledge, I got a whole warband, guessing that's why mine is running later than his.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/22 15:13:04


Post by: judgedoug


Just got my warband - the Creeps - along with my other KS goodies. The models are really, really great. Clean casts and full of character. I don't think the painted examples do the models justice at all. I got a sampler pack as well that contains a few models from each of the warbands. They are all great sculpts. The end result is that I went from being cautious and only supporting for one warband, to wishing I had pledged for either a lot of extras or for more warbands too.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/29 03:47:36


Post by: Mezmaron


The game look intriguing, but I'm disappointed in the name. It reminds me too much of infanticide. It's frankly a real turnoff.

Couldn't they have picked a better name? I like the flying monkey idea, and the thought of painting those up almost made me pull the trigger.

I was on the bubble to begin with, but the name is just enough of a drawback to keep me from buying this.

Mez


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/29 04:03:56


Post by: adhuin


 Mezmaron wrote:
The game look intriguing, but I'm disappointed in the name. It reminds me too much of infanticide. It's frankly a real turnoff.


You could always associate it with Genocide instead.

Or Homi-, Fratri-,Parri-, Mariti-, Kitchensink-, Regicide...
It basically means killing of noun, or in this case "Killing of fantastic creature(s)".



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/11/29 16:16:38


Post by: judgedoug


Yeah, I have no problem with it.

The warband creation system is really brilliant BTW. Grab any figures you want and spend a few minutes statting them up and you've got a whole new army.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/12/07 00:06:53


Post by: JHall


The Hole continues to send strange and mysterious things into Nowhere from Faraway! New powers are struggling to make their way and fortunes in Nowhere, factions who have come there from an Otherworld…



Using the Warband Creator in the Fanticide rulebook, we have created stats for some of the amazing Otherworld Miniatures sets for those who prefer a more traditional style warband (though we know you love the Creeps like everyone else). These stats and points are featured on our website:
http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123therworld-box-sets&catid=92:sample-warbands

We have also put together some great bundle deals for getting started in Fanticide with these Otherworld warbands. They can be found right here:
https://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=8&Itemid=564

These offer you a savings on your first foray into the world of Nowhere, as well!

Keep an eye on the Alien Dungeon website and forums for even more exploration of the Warband Creation system and other new warband ideas!


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/12/07 00:37:03


Post by: choasdwarflord


Love the otherworld stuff. Old school DND FTW!



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/12/07 11:06:15


Post by: Grot 6


 JHall wrote:
The Hole continues to send strange and mysterious things into Nowhere from Faraway! New powers are struggling to make their way and fortunes in Nowhere, factions who have come there from an Otherworld…



Using the Warband Creator in the Fanticide rulebook, we have created stats for some of the amazing Otherworld Miniatures sets for those who prefer a more traditional style warband (though we know you love the Creeps like everyone else). These stats and points are featured on our website:
http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123therworld-box-sets&catid=92:sample-warbands

We have also put together some great bundle deals for getting started in Fanticide with these Otherworld warbands. They can be found right here:
https://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=8&Itemid=564

These offer you a savings on your first foray into the world of Nowhere, as well!

Keep an eye on the Alien Dungeon website and forums for even more exploration of the Warband Creation system and other new warband ideas!


Thats a really cool idea.

Need to add in there the rules for those single monsters in there, such as the Medusa.

Wonder how I can add her in to my rabid killer kid gangs.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/12/07 13:54:47


Post by: bbb


Great idea! I hope to finally have the disposable cash after the new year to pick up the rulebook.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2012/12/07 14:19:12


Post by: judgedoug


It really is quite good. Get the rules and the activation card deck.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/21 02:49:47


Post by: judgedoug


My finished Creep warband!



Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/21 04:29:52


Post by: JHall


Looks great judgedoug! How have they fared in your games?


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/21 12:45:25


Post by: Azazelx


How does the game play? I'm not interested in their minaitures, background or fluff, but I am interested in digging out some of my old, old Warhammer figures and doing RoC warbands.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/21 15:22:29


Post by: judgedoug


Scipio, Fanticide is great. Here's a quickie run-down:

It uses a card-based activation with some event cards thrown in per turn. Each unit has it's own activation card. The cards are generic enough - two sets with different icons so you know Side A's cards from Side B. Since units are grouped into what they are (stickers, clubbers, shooters, etc), if you have two clubber units in your army, your deck would have Clubbers 1 and Clubbers 2. Additionally your heroes have extra cards which they can use to double-activate units. Extra event cards include a Unicorn showing up to cause trouble, Rainbows appearing, etc.

Models in units have Virtues, which are their stats such as Give and Take and Command; some have Vices, which could be detrimental (Creeps have the Vice of Darkdwelling which means they get penalties when there's a Rainbow, etc)

Missions and your objectives are based on the 7 Sins, so the two forces could be going for very different goals.

And of course there's a whole section on warband creation and how to stat up units with a points system, etc.

Honestly it's one of my, if not the, favorite/best skirmish games I've experienced. It's super fun, super quick. It fits old Realm of Chaos stuff _really_ well (the book is even littered with Tony Ackland's art, so it reminds me a lot of RoC) and there's even some "sci fi magic weapons" in there like chainsaws and shotguns, like RoC allowed WHFB Chaos champions to take plasma guns, etc.

I seriously cannot recommend it more highly. Get the book and the activation deck. I also got the spell effects (nice acrylic cut spell templates).

Check out this battle report, it'll give you an idea of how the game plays.

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-fountains-of-grod-take-2.html


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 JHall wrote:
Looks great judgedoug! How have they fared in your games?


I have yet to play with them; I just got them finished. Hope they will be devouring some enemies this Saturday!

Fantastic models, loved painting them every step of the way.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/22 23:25:49


Post by: chris_valera


Sucio Sanchez wrote:
I was interested until they talked about monkeys flinging poo. Was this just a joke? Did I miss something?


That put me off as well.

Honestly this game, and its art, looks a little too old-school for my taste. Some of this stuff was left in the past for good reason. The eyeball monster faction is just too "out-there" for me. I like D&D, but stupid stuff like the Myconids kills it for me. Same with the new dragonzord in 40K.

 adamsouza wrote:
They look Toung in Cheek over the top bad on purpose kinda terrible in a muppet sort of way.

Every time I look at that group picture I expec them to break out in song.


Yeah, that kinda kills it for me too. I don't need Fraggle Rock: the wargame.

If this game was a more serious Realms of Chaos-type game, I'd be in, but all the cheesy 70s tropes, plus the gnomes,... it's all just too much for me. Unless this game has plastic sprues, I can't see me seriously considering it.

The Otherworld pig-faced Orcs, looks good, and if the rules are good, I'd consider buying some Drow from various manufacturers, and starting a D&D/Fanticide army. Considering it now, until I hear more game reviews...

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com




Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/01/23 00:07:29


Post by: judgedoug


Don't forget, the rulebook actively encourages you to use any manufacturer's models. The game is designed around that concept - including down to the setting, Nowhere. Think of it kind of as a Battle Royale for your miniatures collection. Stat up anything you want, as they did with the Otherworld Orcs.

Personally, I love the asthetic of the Creeps, so I got them during the Kickstarter. If I didn't like them, I would have just gotten the rules and card deck. The rules really are that good, almost in a "why hasn't someone done this before" kind of way, but in 20 years of wargaming I haven't encountered a generic system so simple and streamlined but so tactical and fun.


Alien Dungeon - Fanticide Launches! @ 2013/02/01 21:47:32


Post by: JHall


A new article on theming your battlefield with some great small terrain pieces is now available on the Alien Dungeon Blog:

http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/2013/01/modeling-nowhere-in-particular-fae-lands.html