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Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 18:55:22


Post by: Ahtman





It looks like it could be fun, but I couldn't help but notice similarites to 40k. Humanity traveled the stars and then was cut off for ages, a powerful, mysterious being shows up to save humanity (the Emprah), and now they are beginning a great crusade of sorts to reclaim lost planets, using soldiers imbued with a bit of the Emprah's, oops, Traveller's power. At least they didn't refer to them as space marines.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:09:19


Post by: unmercifulconker


Sorry, just missed this thread.

Haha I knew others would be reminded of 40k but I love this idea and cannot wait to hear more.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:22:46


Post by: thenoobbomb


That website they released was really strange.
http://alphalupi.bungie.net/?day=0%20


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:23:05


Post by: chaos0xomega


I dont see anything 40k about this at all... maybe its because I know better than to think 40k was first to use that scifi trope or maybe its because the comparisons are a real stretch. If anything it vaguely reminds me of warmachine in space (mainly the art style and alien concept designs). Looking forward to seeing more.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:28:48


Post by: Ahtman


chaos0xomega wrote:
I dont see anything 40k about this at all... maybe its because I know better than to think 40k was first to use that scifi trope or maybe its because the comparisons are a real stretch. If anything it vaguely reminds me of warmachine in space (mainly the art style and alien concept designs). Looking forward to seeing more.


Looks like someone hasn't had their tea yet today. It has elements of all sorts of sci-fi things, but being a Warhammer site, it is more fun to pluck out those. And really? You don't see how "humanity traveled the stars and then was cut off and now begins a great crusade to reclaim the stars for humanity" has a hint of 40k lore?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:35:56


Post by: RatBot


 Ahtman wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I dont see anything 40k about this at all... maybe its because I know better than to think 40k was first to use that scifi trope or maybe its because the comparisons are a real stretch. If anything it vaguely reminds me of warmachine in space (mainly the art style and alien concept designs). Looking forward to seeing more.


Looks like someone hasn't had their tea yet today. It has elements of all sorts of sci-fi things, but being a Warhammer site, it is more fun to pluck out those. And really? You don't see how "humanity traveled the stars and then was cut off and now begins a great crusade to reclaim the stars for humanity" has a hint of 40k lore?



Maybe I missed something, but I thought they were going to reclaim the Earth for Humanity since the last bastion of human power is the city built beneath The Traveler, but that's being a tad nitpicky I suppose. I freely admit that I'm pretty sure that if I saw that video without anyone making a direct reference to 40K (IE, the title of the thread and the first post ) I probably would've thought of 40K. With that said, I'm pretty sure that that basic background (great civilization, DISASTER, now trying to reclaim at least a fragment of what they once held) is fairly generic.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:35:59


Post by: chaos0xomega


I dont recall hearing the words/phrase 'great crusade', and humanity only ever travelled the solar system according to the video, so no. No, I dont see much 40k in there.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:38:04


Post by: Ma55ter_fett


Little bit of 40K(backstory), little bit of halo halo(gameplay), little bit of mass effect(artstyle).

That was my impression of it anyway.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:39:50


Post by: LordofHats


I'm excited. I love Bungie. Only company where I'd ever suggest that I might just be a fan boi


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:45:48


Post by: Kanluwen


Oooh.

Me like.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:53:30


Post by: Macok


Well I'm not that impressed yet. Actually, the opposite.
The artworks are nice. Very nice in fact. But that's all there is, artworks and prerendered movies. I think we're waaaaay past the stage that non gameplay visuals should make us piss our pants.

The rest is just usual babbling that actually says nothing about the game.
The only limit is our imagination? Really? Is this the worst pick up line contest? Come on, that is just so cheap.
Living, changing world? Like we've never heard that before. We've heard all that before.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 19:58:27


Post by: Kanluwen


There's a reason this is a "ViDoc" rather than an announcement trailer.

Judging from how rough the build looks, they're pre-alpha stages at least.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 20:03:29


Post by: LordofHats


I wouldn't say they tell us nothing about the game either. Sure we have no hard info but some can be inferred from the video:

It looks like there's some kind of space travel or ship management system in the game. We get a brief screen that looks like a fleet of ships in orbit and different ones being selected.

The game (I'm guessing wild here) looks like it might have some player customization. They show several different pics and screens that look like they're appearance options for the player.

From the video I'd even propose they may be taking some story or game play notes from Borderlands.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 20:04:44


Post by: unmercifulconker


Who else is with me in creating a guild called the space templars, a group of hate and rage induced crusaders who will scour and annihilate every single xenos filth to reclaim what is ours, in the name of the traveller, let none survive!


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 20:12:15


Post by: BlapBlapBlap


That really does sound like 40K.

Just waiting for the forces of Chaos and the Dark Age of Technology.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 20:40:43


Post by: Ahtman


chaos0xomega wrote:
I dont recall hearing the words/phrase 'great crusade', and humanity only ever travelled the solar system according to the video, so no.


I didn't say they did, I am calling 'reclaiming the galaxy from aliens' a Great Crusade in reference to the Great Crusade from 40k. You'll have to do better then a semantic argument.

chaos0xomega wrote:
No, I dont see much 40k in there.


I think you'd have to be pretty blind not to see the mild similarities, or incredibly obstinate.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 21:52:12


Post by: Ouze


I heard the most elite of the Traveller's army have a tiny sliver of his own gun added to the steel that forged their own.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 21:55:15


Post by: chaos0xomega


 Ahtman wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I dont recall hearing the words/phrase 'great crusade', and humanity only ever travelled the solar system according to the video, so no.


I didn't say they did, I am calling 'reclaiming the galaxy from aliens' a Great Crusade in reference to the Great Crusade from 40k. You'll have to do better then a semantic argument.

chaos0xomega wrote:
No, I dont see much 40k in there.


I think you'd have to be pretty blind not to see the mild similarities, or incredibly obstinate.


Or I maybe am not so great a fanboi that I associate things with 40k even though other settings did it first?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:11:56


Post by: DemetriDominov


I love the art and weather effects.

Did Bungie at least tip their hat to 40k (again)? Probably.

Did they blatantly rip them off? Probably not.

I don't see super Spartan soldiers making a return, I see the ever increasing theme of a post apocalyptic realm with a thread of almost biblical hope for salvation woven within. It's a pretty standard and solid story that is constantly retold, and the fact that it's in space just reminds us on Dakka of the realm we care about most. Maybe GW could sell their IP to Bungie next go around - it's not like they'd be uncomfortable....


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:12:31


Post by: Perkustin


Did it even mention earth? I saw venus mentioned on the 'Autolog' thingy.

Looks cool, i Hope it will be a swansong for this generation of consoles.

Michael Pachter predicted that the multiplayer will have a subscription model, possibly more akin to COD elite than a typical mmo.

Personally i think there will be a kinda Prelude game for the current generation and then a fuller game possibly the year after on the next gen, that includes a port of the prelude game.

I hope the multiplayer not as crap as spartan ops.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:16:18


Post by: chaos0xomega


 DemetriDominov wrote:
I love the art and weather effects.

Did Bungie at least tip their hat to 40k (again)? Probably.

Did they blatantly rip them off? Probably not.

I don't see super Spartan soldiers making a return, I see the ever increasing theme of a post apocalyptic realm with a thread of almost biblical hope for salvation woven within. It's a pretty standard and solid story that is constantly retold, and the fact that it's in space just reminds us on Dakka of the realm we care about most. Maybe GW could sell their IP to Bungie next go around - it's not like they'd be uncomfortable....


Tip their hat to 40k again? When did they do so before? (I'm not a very big halo fan, excuse my ignorance).


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:18:48


Post by: kenshin620


chaos0xomega wrote:
 DemetriDominov wrote:
I love the art and weather effects.

Did Bungie at least tip their hat to 40k (again)? Probably.

Did they blatantly rip them off? Probably not.

I don't see super Spartan soldiers making a return, I see the ever increasing theme of a post apocalyptic realm with a thread of almost biblical hope for salvation woven within. It's a pretty standard and solid story that is constantly retold, and the fact that it's in space just reminds us on Dakka of the realm we care about most. Maybe GW could sell their IP to Bungie next go around - it's not like they'd be uncomfortable....


Tip their hat to 40k again? When did they do so before? (I'm not a very big halo fan, excuse my ignorance).


I'm guessing the entire "Capture Young Kids and turn them into unhuman super soldiers"?

But that was more of a nod to the real world Sparta

Gonna need some more gameplay video to form more of an opinion.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:24:00


Post by: Paint_To_Redemption


Looking good so far. Anything that Bungie produces will pique my interest. They have a built up a lot of goodwill from Halo.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:34:38


Post by: LordofHats


 kenshin620 wrote:
I'm guessing the entire "Capture Young Kids and turn them into unhuman super soldiers"?

But that was more of a nod to the real world Sparta

Gonna need some more gameplay video to form more of an opinion.


In the words of Bungie itself, Halo is: "Robocop and the Colonial Marines vs Predator and space zombies."

Maybe we can just say "this game and 40k have similarities" and leave it at that? I mean really, why is that line of discussion still running? Probably because Bungie didn't actually say too much in the video about the game Come on Bungie. Can't you see the mystery is tearing us apart XD


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:36:58


Post by: kenshin620


 LordofHats wrote:
Can't you see the mystery is tearing us apart XD


I still remember the Halo 3 ARG.....



Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:37:40


Post by: LordofHats


 Paint_To_Redemption wrote:
Looking good so far. Anything that Bungie produces will pique my interest. They have a built up a lot of goodwill from Halo.


They've built up good will period. Bungie as a game maker, has long been able to foster the image of being attentive to the interests of their fans, and not being the money grubbing douches that many other companies appear to be. Any hate they may have incurred during the Halo days was pushed onto Microsoft one way or another. They've had a good image since the Myth games. Will that change? I hope not


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:44:22


Post by: DemetriDominov


 kenshin620 wrote:


I'm guessing the entire "Capture Young Kids and turn them into unhuman super soldiers"?

But that was more of a nod to the real world Sparta

Gonna need some more gameplay video to form more of an opinion.


Yeah true, but here's how the list on how the Astartes compare to Master Chief:

SMs:

Clad in the best armor available.
Indoctrinated at a very young age.
Superhuman.
Trained to martial perfection.
Defender of humanity
Zealous to a single quasi religious cause.
Were legion until broken by betrayal - later repaired by restructure.
The pinnacle weapon of a human empire.
Follow a written code.
Sons of the Emperor

Master Chief and Spartans:

Clad in the best armor available.
Indoctrinated at a very young age.
Superhuman.
Trained to martial perfection.
Defender of humanity.
Were legion until broken by betrayal - later repaired by restructure.
The pinnacle weapon of a human federation.


If anything, the SM's are Janissary Spartans - taken into the folds of a religious militarized cult and trained for war, where Master Chief is just a plain old spartan - albeit the first and greatest of his kind.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:44:31


Post by: RiTides


Cool teaser, thanks for posting it!

Did Bungie make the Myth games? If so, I had no idea about that... loved those.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:46:20


Post by: LordofHats


Yep. They made it after Marathon 2: Durandal.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:46:20


Post by: Soladrin


They also made ONI and Marathon.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 22:56:59


Post by: LordofHats


Oh please. No one remembers Oni


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:01:59


Post by: RatBot


I remember Oni. So there!


...Well, I at least remember it existed, I never played it.

And I watched the video again.




Looks like I'm buying an XBox 360 soon. Damn, this sounds like it's gonna be good.


EDIT: missed the word "be" in the last sentence somehow because herpaderpadoo.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:03:35


Post by: kenshin620


 RatBot wrote:
I remember Oni. So there!


...Well, I at least remember it existed, I never played it.

And I watched the video again.




Looks like I'm buying an XBox 360 soon. Damn, this sounds like it's gonna good.


Whoa whoa whoa did they say this was for the 360?

Seems like a perfect opportunity for Bungi to get a head start on the new system (isnt it going to be Q4 2013?)


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:05:49


Post by: Kanluwen


Supposedly Q4 2013, but it's also supposed to have backwards compatibility.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:06:49


Post by: LordofHats


Right now its listed as being for 360 and PS3. People are being far FAR too ambitious with the next gen consoles imo. I personally doubt they will be releasing this year (either way we will likely know for sure come E3). Even if they do, Bungie has been working on this game for about 2 years roughly speaking and I also personally doubt that it'll release this year either.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:08:23


Post by: Kanluwen


There's some rumors going around that developers have already gotten dev kits for the new Xbox, so it's not entirely far fetched.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:11:04


Post by: Macok


 LordofHats wrote:
Oh please. No one remembers Oni

That's extra heretical!
Oni is probably in my top 5 favourite games ever.
Now you've made my cry that I'm nobody, are you happy sir?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:11:59


Post by: Squidmanlolz


Nobody's mentioned it here yet, so:
This is an MMO styled game (probably in the vein of Planetside 2)
These graphics that we've seen are damn impressive for something with such a large scale.
I really think that Bungie will be able to pull off their goal of establishing a completely interactive universe, they have a larger, more talented staff than they ever have and they've never (since they were very, very small) utilized every member of the company towards a single goal like this. I'm seeing a chance that this could possibly be hailed as "the best game ever" upon its release, given the scope of the project and the size and talent of the crew that has tackled it.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:15:33


Post by: kenshin620


 Squidmanlolz wrote:
Nobody's mentioned it here yet, so:
This is an MMO styled game (probably in the vein of Planetside 2)
These graphics that we've seen are damn impressive for something with such a large scale.
I really think that Bungie will be able to pull off their goal of establishing a completely interactive universe, they have a larger, more talented staff than they ever have and they've never (since they were very, very small) utilized every member of the company towards a single goal like this. I'm seeing a chance that this could possibly be hailed as "the best game ever" upon its release, given the scope of the project and the size and talent of the crew that has tackled it.


I was actually gathering it was some type of mmo game with them talking about how its going to be a living game and having things they cant control

Honestly if you take planestside, ramp up the graphics and give it some story besides "hey kill these the other faction", I can see it doing well


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:20:40


Post by: Squidmanlolz


As an MMO styled game, I was surprised that it's currently only on pre-order for ps3 and 360, and not for PC. Rumors say that a PC version is on the way as well as versions for the next-gen consoles. Here's hoping that they don't port it onto the PC and rather have a good PC version. That said, I may have to buy at least two copies, one for 360, one for pc, perhaps one for the next-gen xbox depending on its timing... jeezus, three copies of the same game?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:24:25


Post by: chaos0xomega


Those graphics look to clean for ps3/xbox 360 imo.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:26:18


Post by: Squidmanlolz


chaos0xomega wrote:
Those graphics look to clean for ps3/xbox 360 imo.

My guess is that they were rendered on one of the programming PCs.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:27:47


Post by: The Observer


I cant wait to hold it in my greedy grasps. About the graphics. Remember ist a Trailer/teaser, this could very well only be beffed up to impress us.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:28:53


Post by: kenshin620


 Squidmanlolz wrote:
As an MMO styled game, I was surprised that it's currently only on pre-order for ps3 and 360, and not for PC. Rumors say that a PC version is on the way as well as versions for the next-gen consoles. Here's hoping that they don't port it onto the PC and rather have a good PC version. That said, I may have to buy at least two copies, one for 360, one for pc, perhaps one for the next-gen xbox depending on its timing... jeezus, three copies of the same game?


Hmm isnt it actually harder to develop on the PS3 (or PS4? dun dun duuuuuuuuuun!) than the PC? (or from what I hear on ps3 porting and etc) Be a bit strange to neglect the PC


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:34:43


Post by: LordofHats


 Macok wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
Oh please. No one remembers Oni

That's extra heretical!
Oni is probably in my top 5 favourite games ever.
Now you've made my cry that I'm nobody, are you happy sir?


I'm never happy. At most, I'm moderately pleased


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:40:41


Post by: Squidmanlolz


 kenshin620 wrote:
 Squidmanlolz wrote:
As an MMO styled game, I was surprised that it's currently only on pre-order for ps3 and 360, and not for PC. Rumors say that a PC version is on the way as well as versions for the next-gen consoles. Here's hoping that they don't port it onto the PC and rather have a good PC version. That said, I may have to buy at least two copies, one for 360, one for pc, perhaps one for the next-gen xbox depending on its timing... jeezus, three copies of the same game?


Hmm isnt it actually harder to develop on the PS3 (or PS4? dun dun duuuuuuuuuun!) than the PC? (or from what I hear on ps3 porting and etc) Be a bit strange to neglect the PC


All I know is that Bungie hired a completely all new staff to work on the PS3 version.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/17 23:55:42


Post by: Palindrome


This is purposefully not being developed for PC as apparently "no one plays FPS games on the PC anymore". Evidently somone has never heard fo PLanetside 2 or TF2 or....

It is also possible that the real reason that this isn't getting a PC release is that it is very similar to the next MMO by Blizzard (both of wich are owned by Activision) which is supposed to be strikely similar to this.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 00:03:39


Post by: LordofHats


Palindrome wrote:
This is purposefully not being developed for PC as apparently "no one plays FPS games on the PC anymore". Evidently somone has never heard fo PLanetside 2 or TF2 or...


Exceptions aside, you'd be surprised how much the PC FPS market has suffered the past few years. While the statement is on its face wrong, they are correct that making FPS games for the PC has become an increasingly dicey proposition. And honestly, should we be surprised that Activision doesn't want to make more FPS games for the PC? CoD might be bringing in the bank but it hasn't really built their brand.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 00:15:21


Post by: Perkustin


The ps4 architecture is supposed to be alot more 'open' than the ps3 and judging (i didnt do the judging btw ) by durango's architecture, 'xbox-next''s aswell. Sony has learned the hard way from the cell processor and it's strict partitions, sony is not developing a bespoke processor this time round iirc. Ps4 is aiming to be the 'easiest' to develop for.

I think 'warframe' is a good indication of what this game will be like in terms of online structure.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 00:23:19


Post by: LordofHats


That could be interesting. I have played Warframe and while it's... lacking. I see potential in the model. It's pretty cool.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 00:27:45


Post by: Palindrome


 LordofHats wrote:
. While the statement is on its face wrong, they are correct that making FPS games for the PC has become an increasingly dicey proposition. .


I think that its more a case of making CoD clones is an increasingly dicey proposition as the PC user base are typically more experienced/older they see through the hype more clearly than console gamers. In the last couple of years FPS that weren't CoD clones have been few and far between.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 00:29:38


Post by: LordofHats


Well I'm sure we can both agree that CoD has poisoned the market in that respect. The PC crowd is now more critical and less willing to put up with the crap (both because as a smaller market the people in it are more dedicated, and because they've been getting handed the short stick for years). This effects more than just CoD and its clones imo.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 01:06:20


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Not single-player? Check!
Requires a constant internet connection? Check!
Not available on PC? Check!

Finally a game that cuts the bs and just flat out tells me not to buy it. Thanks Bungie. You've saved me a lot of time following this thing's development.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 01:13:39


Post by: Squidmanlolz


Palindrome wrote:

It is also possible that the real reason that this isn't getting a PC release is that it is very similar to the next MMO by Blizzard (both of wich are owned by Activision) which is supposed to be strikely similar to this.


Blizzard worked on this game alongside Bungie
Blizzard did most of the server work and the rest of the work on that end of the spectrum

I still understand the need to avoid competing with one's self...


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 09:19:28


Post by: Palindrome


 Squidmanlolz wrote:


Blizzard worked on this game alongside Bungie
Blizzard did most of the server work and the rest of the work on that end of the spectrum

I still understand the need to avoid competing with one's self...


You are remarkably well informed.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 LordofHats wrote:
This effects more than just CoD and its clones imo.


I disagree, just look at Planetside 2.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 10:49:26


Post by: Squidmanlolz


Palindrome wrote:
 Squidmanlolz wrote:


Blizzard worked on this game alongside Bungie
Blizzard did most of the server work and the rest of the work on that end of the spectrum

I still understand the need to avoid competing with one's self...


You are remarkably well informed.


They unintentionally gave a few things away when they released their agreement papers with Activision-Blizzard.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 11:34:31


Post by: Soladrin


If it's an MMO I'm not going to bother with a console version.

Anyway, looks quite interesting. But untill we see any proper ingame footage I'm not going to get too pumped up.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 19:42:19


Post by: unmercifulconker


Dakka let us join forces to form the Ordo Xenos and deliver the travellers true message as it now sits idle from its great sacrifice to save us, to destory the alien threat and embark on our great crusade!


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 21:04:49


Post by: mega_bassist


 LordofHats wrote:
Right now its listed as being for 360 and PS3. People are being far FAR too ambitious with the next gen consoles imo. I personally doubt they will be releasing this year (either way we will likely know for sure come E3). Even if they do, Bungie has been working on this game for about 2 years roughly speaking and I also personally doubt that it'll release this year either.


Completely agree with you on this one.

As for the game, sounds/looks really cool so far...but I'm not holding my breath. We'll see later in the year when there's more info on it. I just hope it doesn't end up like MAG...

Edit - And I also remeber Oni! One of the first PS2 games I ever bought...and it was a damned good one, last I remembered.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 21:10:43


Post by: Grundz


 mega_bassist wrote:


Edit - And I also remeber Oni! One of the first PS2 games I ever bought...and it was a damned good one, last I remembered.


oni was great, but bungie sold it and gutted the team about 3/4 through development in order to make Halo1 great
in hindsight a good decision, but it makes me sad since I really did like oni.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/18 21:58:45


Post by: Squidmanlolz


 LordofHats wrote:
Right now its listed as being for 360 and PS3. People are being far FAR too ambitious with the next gen consoles imo. I personally doubt they will be releasing this year (either way we will likely know for sure come E3). Even if they do, Bungie has been working on this game for about 2 years roughly speaking and I also personally doubt that it'll release this year either.


I have to correct you on one thing, the game has reportedly been in the works (conceptually mostly) since around the release of Halo 3 in 2007 and was well on the table when talks with Activision-Blizzard began pending Bungie's release from their contract with Mircosoft after Halo: Reach in 2010. Bungie has been specifically tight-lipped with this one, members of separate design teams didn't know what the others were doing until very recently, with only the upper echelons of the companies getting to see the big picture. Bungie traditionally holds to spending 3 years flat working on each of their games, Activision is looking to release Destiny in 2014, which places it having 7 years of production under its belt. (I just wanted to state that the fact that it is getting 7 years is significant because Bungie idolizes the number 7 like a mad cult.)

As for the new generation of consoles, the last rumor I heard said that Sony would do a reveal on a new console this week. No idea how reliable of a rumor it was but it generated some buzz.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 21:50:17


Post by: Squigsquasher


Well, it looks ambitious. I have a horrible feeling that the game is going to be ripped to shreds simply by not being able to live up to the absurd hype. Remember what happened to poor, poor, poor Aliens: Colonial Marines.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 22:00:55


Post by: Kanluwen


There's a huge difference between what happened to Aliens: Colonial Marines and the usual "not being able to live up to the absurd hype".

Colonial Marines was a six year project that was constantly shelved and then later restarted whenever someone had a "good idea" that they felt should be in the game. Then Gearbox just stopped working on it, ported it to several different studios to work on and then Gearbox worked on Borderlands 2 instead.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 22:00:55


Post by: Squidmanlolz


 Squigsquasher wrote:
Well, it looks ambitious. I have a horrible feeling that the game is going to be ripped to shreds simply by not being able to live up to the absurd hype. Remember what happened to poor, poor, poor Aliens: Colonial Marines.


You have to take into consideration that Colonial Marines isn't very good for today's standards, it was done being programmed YEARS ago they hadn't worked on it since and all the money that was supposed to go towards shipping and advertising went elsewhere.
Bungie has one of the best design, programming and community support teams in the modern era of video games. That said, Activision doesn't have my full trust yet and I'm hoping that Blizzard holds up their end of the game.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 22:32:40


Post by: LordofHats


 Squidmanlolz wrote:
That said, Activision doesn't have my full trust yet and I'm hoping that Blizzard holds up their end of the game.


I'm less concerned about that than normal as the agreement between Bungie and ActiBlizz is very unusual and seems to have been purposefully designed to allow Bungie to make the game they way they want it to be and Activision can only take it when its done.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 22:42:29


Post by: Perkustin


 Squigsquasher wrote:
Well, it looks ambitious. I have a horrible feeling that the game is going to be ripped to shreds simply by not being able to live up to the absurd hype. Remember what happened to poor, poor, poor Aliens: Colonial Marines.


I see where you're coming from but Better examples would be Halo 2, MGS2 and Diablo 3. All decent/great games but victims of their own hype.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 23:10:18


Post by: Squidmanlolz


^Agreed with Diablo 3 being a good example
Halo 2 however was horribly rushed throughout its creation which lead to a large amount (I believe the last 1/3) of the game's planned campaign to be cut out and replaced with the now famous cliffhanger.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 23:16:46


Post by: kenshin620


 Squidmanlolz wrote:

Halo 2 however was horribly rushed throughout its creation which lead to a large amount (I believe the last 1/3) of the game's planned campaign to be cut out and replaced with the now famous cliffhanger.


Hey look, multiplayers got their blood gulch. Be happy

But anyways halo being split up was more of microsoft's call right?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 23:43:51


Post by: djones520


Yeah... I didn't see much of a correlation with 40K, even after it was mentioned.

Looks like an interesting game though. Bungie does good work (so far), so I hope they keep the trend up.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/19 23:54:45


Post by: Soladrin


You can't really go wrong if you don't buy into the hype.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/24 02:20:19


Post by: Cheesecat


This looks like a pretty neat idea then again I love post-apocalyptic settings ever since I've got into Mad Max and the Fallout series, I don't think I've been this interested in a Bungie game in along time. Don't get me wrong the first Halo game was amazing for it's time but the sequels didn't

really introduce anything that new, I mean in terms of game play (obviously not graphics) Halo Reach feels like a 12 year-old game plus most of the Halo games as a single player experience feel boring and generic to me, although they're almost always great multi-player wise.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/24 03:08:04


Post by: kenshin620


 Cheesecat wrote:
This looks like a pretty neat idea then again I love post-apocalyptic settings ever since I've got into Mad Max and the Fallout series


For a post apoc game, this looks quite clean


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/24 17:07:13


Post by: Cave_Dweller


Nice trailer, but I agree about being jaded. A really cool pre-rendered trailer doesn't do much for me.

Also, not being a console gamer if it isn't gonna be a PC release I could care less then.

And Bungee kinda irked me back in the day with the Halo 1 hype, being initially touted as a PC game, only to deviate into X-Box territory once they got their internet moneys from Microsoft. Kudos to them for striking gold with their successful Halo series, but I just can't get into newer console games.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/26 22:01:28


Post by: Frankenberry


It's interesting for sure, but with little or no details being released (aside from vague "It's going to be awesome!"), I'm skeptical. Granted Bungie owned face for years with the Halo franchise so they know how to make a first person shooter, but building a giant galaxy that lives and breathes on it's own? Action RPG style?

I hope it's good, I want it to be with every fiber of my gamer-being.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/02/27 01:36:02


Post by: Squidmanlolz


I can't wait to see how they implement Joyeuse into the game. It had better be creative! lol


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/05 03:35:43


Post by: Nocturnal391


It looks pritty cool. Actually looking foward to seeing more.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 21:58:25


Post by: KalashnikovMarine


It looks really good, it hits the right buttons to get me salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs after you ring a bell, but yeah... waiting and seeing for now on this one.

The official PS4 announcement for Destiny did go live though.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:09:16


Post by: Asherian Command


 Kanluwen wrote:
Oooh.

Me like.

What?
WHAT?
Me and several others like this game?

Damn. I thought i was alone till i read this thread. Which almost drove me to


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:17:48


Post by: Slarg232


Honestly it sounds like Halo meets Dark Souls with how people can come in and randomly kill you if they want.

I'm looking forward to it, unless the put a subscription fee on it. I don't do $15 a month.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:20:09


Post by: Spyral


Frankly I'm surprised that they're not still milking Halo. Could never understand why such a generic FPS was considered to be so brilliant.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:26:00


Post by: Kanluwen


 Spyral wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that they're not still milking Halo.

Likely because Bungie does not actually "own" Halo anymore?
Microsoft does, and they have a studio dedicated to Halo games in the form of "343 Industries".

Could never understand why such a generic FPS was considered to be so brilliant.

Probably has something to do with the fact that because at the time of Halo: Combat Evolved, it was not actually that generic?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:26:49


Post by: Slarg232


 Spyral wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that they're not still milking Halo. Could never understand why such a generic FPS was considered to be so brilliant.


1) Generic how?

2) They completed the story they wanted to tell with Halo, and unlike most companies/developers, they were willing to let go of it.

Also, does anyone know where I can easily get a copy of Oni? I've always been interested in that game.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:28:38


Post by: KalashnikovMarine


 Kanluwen wrote:


Could never understand why such a generic FPS was considered to be so brilliant.

Probably has something to do with the fact that because at the time of Halo: Combat Evolved, it was not actually that generic?


Excellent point right here, Halo seems generic now because it's the origin point of almost everything shooters have been copying since Combat Evolved came out.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 22:38:48


Post by: Asherian Command


 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:


Could never understand why such a generic FPS was considered to be so brilliant.

Probably has something to do with the fact that because at the time of Halo: Combat Evolved, it was not actually that generic?


Excellent point right here, Halo seems generic now because it's the origin point of almost everything shooters have been copying since Combat Evolved came out.

Couldn't agree more.


Do we know anything else about this game like fluff? The Art looks great BUT.

It reminds me alot of my concept idea for my short story Black Ink.

As long as they don't make a slime creature that uses the bodies of the dead and uses it as a puppet while it absorbs all living material. I'm happy either way.



Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:28:55


Post by: KingCracker


Hey....that grabbed my attention. Color me interested


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:30:13


Post by: Slarg232


That would actually be really bad ass.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:35:03


Post by: Asherian Command


 Slarg232 wrote:
That would actually be really bad ass.

Wait my short story concept?
Or Bungie taking that idea?


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:35:55


Post by: Slarg232


A slime thing that uses people as puppets while it eats them from the inside out.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:38:43


Post by: Asherian Command


 Slarg232 wrote:
A slime thing that uses people as puppets while it eats them from the inside out.

Yeah. My mind is a fethed up place :/ Would be a cool creature.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/10 23:57:31


Post by: RiTides


 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
The official PS4 announcement for Destiny did go live though.

I pre-ordered at GameStop to get the free poster (which they handed me right then, and I only had to put down $5... and they said I can change the system later if I end up getting a PS4).

My question is, is it going to be worth playing on a PS4? Will the graphics be about the same as on the Xbox 360 and PS3? Will the multiplayer be limited to only playstation, or only xbox, or only PC... or is there any chance at cross-system compatibility??

So many questions... I am very excited for this game. Will try to stay interested in Halo 4 until then...


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/11 00:03:05


Post by: Kanluwen


To be fair RiTides, "Destiny" is pretty much guaranteed to be on the NextBox as well.

It will likely have a bit more "graphicswise" for the next generation consoles, with MP being limited to the platform populations.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/11 00:48:16


Post by: Slarg232


I'll probably wait for the 720 to get it. Most likely will have the better graphics/enhancements, and most people will migrate there eventually.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/11 23:22:23


Post by: Perkustin


Not sutre if these have been posted but i read a couple more details about the game.

-The graphics engine is built for current gen but 'scalable' to next gen platforms, curiously only the PS4 is mentioned directly. I would imagine this would be similar to games of the last gen like Tomb raider legend, and indeed contemporary (good)PC-ports, i.e nicer textures and better frame-rate but nothing gameplay changing.
-The multiplayer will take the form of 'crossplay'. The game lobby will take the form of a thirdperson navigated hub called 'The City' where you can meet with your party and show off your gear. From there you can choose to embark on a mission with your party or just go off on your own.
-When you enter a story mission certain parts of the mission will be 'Public combat arenas', the example cited is 'The Dust palace' on mars. Here you will encounter random other players, who you can collaborate with or simply ignore and just carry on with the story mission.
-The customisation is deep. The four main things you can customise are your armour, your gun (customisation appears to be deep, bungie showed slides with 30 different guns based on the same chassis, borderlands was also mentioned during the presentation, as was the word loot ) and finally and most excitingly..... Your SPACE SHIP. Awww yeah!
-The three classes are Warlock (magic, stoopid), Hunter (ranger) and Titan (Master chief) and the four stats are Energy, Shields, Agility and Discipline which apparently Governs your Magic abilities.
-The Enemies are called 'The Fallen' and the three races mentioned are The Vex, who are time travelling robots, The Cabal who are bulky brutes and the 'Space Zombies' who Bungie guaranteed would get a better name once they thought of one.
-The App will allow you to access all the cutomisation options, message friends and have every stat you could possibly think of apparently.
-Finally all the net code and network features during the game are invisible. Similar to the PSN game journey.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/11 23:35:55


Post by: KalashnikovMarine


 Perkustin wrote:
Not sutre if these have been posted but i read a couple more details about the game.

-The graphics engine is built for current gen but 'scalable' to next gen platforms, curiously only the PS4 is mentioned directly. I would imagine this would be similar to games of the last gen like Tomb raider legend, and indeed contemporary (good)PC-ports, i.e nicer textures and better frame-rate but nothing gameplay changing.
-The multiplayer will take the form of 'crossplay'. The game lobby will take the form of a thirdperson navigated hub called 'The City' where you can meet with your party and show off your gear. From there you can choose to embark on a mission with your party or just go off on your own.
-When you enter a story mission certain parts of the mission will be 'Public combat arenas', the example cited is 'The Dust palace' on mars. Here you will encounter random other players, who you can collaborate with or simply ignore and just carry on with the story mission.
-The customisation is deep. The four main things you can customise are your armour, your gun (customisation appears to be deep, bungie showed slides with 30 different guns based on the same chassis, borderlands was also mentioned during the presentation, as was the word loot ) and finally and most excitingly..... Your SPACE SHIP. Awww yeah!
-The three classes are Warlock (magic, stoopid), Hunter (ranger) and Titan (Master chief) and the four stats are Energy, Shields, Agility and Discipline which apparently Governs your Magic abilities.
-The Enemies are called 'The Fallen' and the three races mentioned are The Vex, who are time travelling robots, The Cabal who are bulky brutes and the 'Space Zombies' who Bungie guaranteed would get a better name once they thought of one.
-The App will allow you to access all the cutomisation options, message friends and have every stat you could possibly think of apparently.
-Finally all the net code and network features during the game are invisible. Similar to the PSN game journey.



These all appeal to me greatly.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/11 23:38:07


Post by: Kanluwen


 Perkustin wrote:
Not sutre if these have been posted but i read a couple more details about the game.

-The graphics engine is built for current gen but 'scalable' to next gen platforms, curiously only the PS4 is mentioned directly. I would imagine this would be similar to games of the last gen like Tomb raider legend, and indeed contemporary (good)PC-ports, i.e nicer textures and better frame-rate but nothing gameplay changing.

This is because, as of right now, the next Xbox is still technically a "secret". It's supposed to get unveiled at E3, and supposedly Bungie will be there doing a demo presentation on the NextBox and PS4 both.


Bungies new game, Destiny - or Halohammer 40k @ 2013/03/12 23:05:15


Post by: KingCracker


 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
 Perkustin wrote:
Not sutre if these have been posted but i read a couple more details about the game.

-The graphics engine is built for current gen but 'scalable' to next gen platforms, curiously only the PS4 is mentioned directly. I would imagine this would be similar to games of the last gen like Tomb raider legend, and indeed contemporary (good)PC-ports, i.e nicer textures and better frame-rate but nothing gameplay changing.
-The multiplayer will take the form of 'crossplay'. The game lobby will take the form of a thirdperson navigated hub called 'The City' where you can meet with your party and show off your gear. From there you can choose to embark on a mission with your party or just go off on your own.
-When you enter a story mission certain parts of the mission will be 'Public combat arenas', the example cited is 'The Dust palace' on mars. Here you will encounter random other players, who you can collaborate with or simply ignore and just carry on with the story mission.
-The customisation is deep. The four main things you can customise are your armour, your gun (customisation appears to be deep, bungie showed slides with 30 different guns based on the same chassis, borderlands was also mentioned during the presentation, as was the word loot ) and finally and most excitingly..... Your SPACE SHIP. Awww yeah!
-The three classes are Warlock (magic, stoopid), Hunter (ranger) and Titan (Master chief) and the four stats are Energy, Shields, Agility and Discipline which apparently Governs your Magic abilities.
-The Enemies are called 'The Fallen' and the three races mentioned are The Vex, who are time travelling robots, The Cabal who are bulky brutes and the 'Space Zombies' who Bungie guaranteed would get a better name once they thought of one.
-The App will allow you to access all the cutomisation options, message friends and have every stat you could possibly think of apparently.
-Finally all the net code and network features during the game are invisible. Similar to the PSN game journey.



These all appeal to me greatly.



Me too