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Post by: DoctorZombie
Who still watches anime?
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Post by: LordofHats
There's a huge 'What Anime are you watching" thread just a few threads down on this board XD.
@ OP, wow. Someone has some anger issues. Lets invite them to the nearest western Anime convention and have a civil chat about it with gun blades and Gundams.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
Someone on the Internet said stuff.
Also they use the word 'ret@rded' a lot so while arguing about something racist they are using some rather prejudiced language.
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Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?
 LordofHats wrote:
There's a huge 'What Anime thread are you watching" thread just a few threads down on this board XD.
@ OP, wow. Someone has some anger issues. Lets invite them to the nearest western Anime convention and have a civil chat about it with gun blades and Gundams.
Crazy thing is, the dude that writes this blog runs a store that sells cosplay costumes to us vile racist psycho westerners.
~Tim?
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Post by: LordofHats
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: LordofHats wrote:
There's a huge 'What Anime thread are you watching" thread just a few threads down on this board XD.
@ OP, wow. Someone has some anger issues. Lets invite them to the nearest western Anime convention and have a civil chat about it with gun blades and Gundams.
Crazy thing is, the dude that writes this blog runs a store that sells cosplay costumes to us vile racist psycho westerners.
~Tim?
Some call that Hypocrisy, I call it Capitalism 
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Post by: Talizvar
Just came from "Anime North".
I have to admit: happiest convention I have ever been to.
No serious issues with non-asians butchering asion character's looks (I suspect it is all just better use of photoshop in the "scientific" video).
I figure that another culture taking a strong interest in your own should be very flattering.
Anyway, haters gotta hate so great pointing it out but it is better to ignore until they do something silly.
I liked Kendo and really hope to see some more asians strapping on hockey skates!
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Post by: Breotan
I don't really watch anime or do cosplay. I do build model anime robots. Is there a term for that? Am I a racist westerner for buying those kits? I'm not using asian glue. I might be denying some asian kid the opportunity to build that model. Since I'm not asian, does the culture divide make it less likely I'll build the model like asians do?
So much soul searching to do... (right after I finish building this model.)
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Post by: Relapse
I found it interesting that one of the characters he posted has blue eyes. Other characters in Anime I have seen have strongly western characteristics, such as blonde hair.
It's like an old article I read a long time ago entitled,"You can never win with a bigot".
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Post by: Ahtman
So essentially some anti-Western, ignorant, prejudiced donkey-cave is calling other people racists?
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Post by: azazel the cat
Yeah!!! feth all those non-dog-people who dress up as Goofy at Disneyland, too!
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Post by: Relapse
 Ahtman wrote:So essentially some anti-Western, ignorant, prejudiced donkey-cave is calling other people racists?
Seems to be a correct idea here. I wonder what the Asian version of the Klan is because this guy seems to be making a play for Exalted Cyclops or Grand Dragon position.
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Post by: deathholydeath
Kind of hillarious given how much so many animes borrow western tropes.
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Post by: Krellnus
My turn.
All asians that like Shakespeare are racist, how dare they show their appreciation for something that isn't theirs.
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Post by: Kovnik Obama
Dakka, the places you take me...
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Post by: Ahtman
We really are quite something.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
More research is needed.
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Post by: AduroT
I'm pretty sure this guy discredits his argument.
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Post by: LordofHats
That's pretty good
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Post by: Tyranidcrusher
In Before "westerners suck"
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Post by: Soladrin
That was hilarious, thanks.
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Post by: TheDiscoSpider
Pretty sure nobody can get the bug-eyes right anyway, so we're all square.
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Post by: kronk
How is an American dressing as an Anime character they enjoy racist? It sounds like anit-American BS to me. Seriously. STFU. It's a fething hot chick wearing a costume. I want to be on her research panel. 1-on-1 time is needed. After hours. At my place. 
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Post by: Kilkrazy
You can get the big eyes!
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Post by: thenoobbomb
You are not Asian=You can not cosplay
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Post by: azazel the cat
thenoobbomb wrote:You are not Asian=You can not cosplay
I beg to differ. 
/shameless self-promotion
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Post by: Cheesecat
 kronk wrote:How is an American dressing as an Anime character they enjoy racist? It sounds like anit-American BS to me. Seriously. STFU. It's a fething hot chick wearing a costume.
I want to be on her research panel. 1-on-1 time is needed. After hours. At my place.
Agreed. 
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Post by: Valion
Why do any of you give a gak what this guy has to say, exactly?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
We don't. It is just an excuse to shoot the gak about anime cosplayers during a bank holiday weekend.
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Post by: Steve steveson
So... We're commenting on bigots with blogs now? Ye, hes a loon, welcome to the Internet.
A hilariously funny bigot though. You can feel is impotent anger through the web. You can just feel the way he has written. Lots of fast typing and pressing post without reading lest he realizes it is a stupid thing to rant about. You can just see the anger in the long sentences and repetition of the same phrases again and again.
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Post by: MetalOxide
Western cartoons will always be superior to anime, nothing is as awesome as Batman or Iron Man!
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Post by: chromedog
Current (cartoon) version of iron man is an anime, though.
Both in design and production.
Poster of the blog is an Asian living in Australia with a massive chip on their shoulder.
If he doesn't want 'westerners' doing cosplay, then they shouldn't have exported the stupid idea in the first place - it should have remained on that streetcorner in a small district of Tokyo.
I have stormtrooper armour. I am NOT a cosplayer. I am 501st.
Cosplayers don't do hospital visits to cheer up kids.
(Well, I don't either - but that's because I don't actually like kids that much anymore. lol)
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
So much impotent rage
"Good, good. Let the hate flow through you"
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Wow there is so much intense butt hurt and poor english concentrated on that website I dunno if he needs morphine or a grammar nazi roflstomping, there are a lot of good asian cosplayers (in the from Asia sense) but a lot of those that really get circulated are are pros, models who get payed to cosplay for events, and usually have no more hand in doing their own cosplays then any other model has in designing the outfits they wear, most folks over here do it cause they want to have fun.
At least in my personal experience.
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Post by: AtomicEngineer
Is it strange that growing up and even after, I never saw anime characters as Japanese. To me they always looked like their own cartoon style race or western. If they were all Japanese wouldn't they be shorter? and have dark hair. Not racism im not entirely sure but I thought the light hair gene was really small in the east which is why they always have dark black or brown hair.
It seems to me they based characters on western style or at least stylized beyond classification of east and west. I mean they are drawn characters, not based on real people in the first place. So I dont understand how anyone dressed up as a character who does not even exist can be racist this isnt who framed roger rabbit where the digital characters have their own society lol they are made up. Having looked at their stuff it seems the only racism going on is that blog and videos. People really need to stop telling others what they can and can't do based on their origin, thats the definition of racism. If we kept these views expressed in that blog/vids cultural equality wouldn't have gotten anywhere by now but from what ive read on people living in the far east, racism against westerners is still really prevalent in that society, which is sad.
I mean i had a pokemon party when I was 8, everyone came dressed up as trainers does that make me racist? then again I came dressed as psyduck so maybe not
Also Velma just became my favorite scooby doo character
Awesome
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
501st: Cosplayers with a large group theme
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Post by: LordofHats
The 501st are badasses. They voice their opposition to tyranny by dressing as storm troopers and doing charity work
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Post by: kronk
There were a fair amount of them at ComicPalooza last weekend. Some pretty cool costumes, I must say.
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Post by: Ahtman
Is it supposed to be ironic that Stormtroopers are doing charity work?
If you've never seen the Stormtrooper March live in person you are really missing out.
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Post by: LordofHats
It is ironic isn't it What's more awesome than a Storm Trooper collecting donations for the salvation army:
He's even got a bell in his hand
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Post by: Kilkrazy
That's the end of a bell, actually.
I think it's really mean that a stormtrooper was recruited to force little girls to put their money in a so-called charity bucket.
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Post by: daedalus
So is this an elaborate troll or the Asian equivalent of timecube?
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Post by: AtomicEngineer
"Move along, these are not the donations we are looking for"
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
Ahtman wrote:Is it supposed to be ironic that Stormtroopers are doing charity work?
If you've never seen the Stormtrooper March live in person you are really missing out.
Even with all those blasters I bet they still couldn't hit anything. 
And I'd love to be at a large scale gathering like that one. Bet those are some fun people to hang out with.
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Post by: ph34r
So to all the racist western cosplayers
stop doing racism to us Asians
stick to imitate your own
..............
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Post by: LordofHats
You know... He could at least have proper grammar- Wait a minute he's writing in our language!
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Post by: Hordini
LordofHats wrote:You know... He could at least have proper grammar- Wait a minute he's writing in our language!
Dude, stop doing racism to him.
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Post by: LordofHats
 Hordini wrote: LordofHats wrote:You know... He could at least have proper grammar- Wait a minute he's writing in our language!
Dude, stop doing racism to him.
No! If I can't dress up as Sasuke Uchiha and be brooding and melodramatic about how much I want revenge on my brother for murdering my clan before my eyes he can't write his blog in English! He has his own language
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
LordofHats wins the thread, take this exalt my good sir.
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Post by: Frazzled
I've been informed anime has proven that Hitler was a westerner, who liked to serve tea out of a Hitler teapot.
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Post by: Kajune
The mod are doing unwise decision, this topic are not even putting any points I made in my topic, awful. This topic just posting someone blog and statement that it is racist for westerners to Cosplay without providing the argumentation from that person.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Are you the writer of the blog Kajune?
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Post by: Alfndrate
Kajune wrote:The mod are doing unwise decision, this topic are not even putting any points I made in my topic, awful. This topic just posting someone blog and statement that it is racist for westerners to Cosplay without providing the argumentation from that person.
But the topic is an antithesis to the point you're making. If I gleamed what little information there was from your first thread, you said that Asians don't base Anime on them, but on westerners. Okay. Well if that's the case, then the OP in THIS thread is stating that westerners cosplaying as anime characters are racist, something your point directly goes against.
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Post by: Kajune
I have my own blog in antiracistwesterncosplayers.tumblr.com
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Post by: Alfndrate
Kajune wrote:I have my own blog in antiracistwesterncosplayers.tumblr.com
Oh joy! a tumblr! So I was correct in assuming that you are in disagreement with what this guy said?
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Post by: daedalus
Kajune wrote:The mod are doing unwise decision, this topic are not even putting any points I made in my topic, awful. This topic just posting someone blog and statement that it is racist for westerners to Cosplay without providing the argumentation from that person.
It's available for all to review. The reason why it's not being posted is because there are no single points salient enough TO post.
Concerning your short-lived thread, I had typed the following, but couldn't get in before the inevitable lock:
myself wrote:No. Westerners did not invent racism. Yes, Hitler was German. No, he's not special. See also Pol Pot, WW2 Nipponese, and also the entire history of the majority of the countries comprising the "middle east".
Even tribes of pre-western influence inhabitants of the Americas have done terrible things to those not of their own tribe.
tl;dr People are horrible to people not like themselves.
I'm still confused as to why acceptance of another's culture and emulation of features of that culture is racist.
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
Kajune wrote:I have my own blog in antiracistwesterncosplayers.tumblr.com
Are you sure that blog name is correct? I can't seem to find it with that address, could you link it for us please if it relates to the discussion at hand? You may have some valuable insight we aren't seeing.
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Post by: Steve steveson
*content removed. Made no sense now context is lost* I'm far to slow...
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Post by: Kajune
 Alfndrate wrote:Kajune wrote:The mod are doing unwise decision, this topic are not even putting any points I made in my topic, awful. This topic just posting someone blog and statement that it is racist for westerners to Cosplay without providing the argumentation from that person.
But the topic is an antithesis to the point you're making. If I gleamed what little information there was from your first thread, you said that Asians don't base Anime on them, but on westerners. Okay. Well if that's the case, then the OP in THIS thread is stating that westerners cosplaying as anime characters are racist, something your point directly goes against.
This topic title even fail to explain why he/she claim the blog owner as a crazy Anime fan. What this topic all doing is making false claim because unable to show any argumentation for it, that is not even counting if the argumentation are valid or not. Way very different from my topic that got locked, awful. The only reason I see the mod locking is the mod not like the topic content [ not that i breaks this forum laws ] and have to find baseless excuse to lock it by saying this also baseless topic are the same as it.
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Post by: Alpharius
One thing we don't allow here on Dakka Dakka is users who show up solely to antagonize and troll the rest of the place.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
We moderators often make unwise decisions on Friday afternoons.
You are welcome to make your points in this thread.
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Post by: daedalus
Yeah. This is boring. :(
Unsubscribed.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
 Frazzled wrote:I've been informed anime has proven that Hitler was a westerner, who liked to serve tea out of a Hitler teapot.
Actually if you read Hetalia Axis Powers you will find that all western nations are anime characters.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Kajune wrote:This topic title even fail to explain why he/she claim the blog owner as a crazy Anime fan. What this topic all doing is making false claim because unable to show any argumentation for it, that is not even counting if the argumentation are valid or not. Way very different from my topic that got locked, awful. The only reason I see the mod locking is the mod not like the topic content [ not that i breaks this forum laws ] and have to find baseless excuse to lock it by saying this also baseless topic are the same as it.
The reason why your first thread was locked was because I (a regular user, not a mod) reported it as a duplicate thread. When a thread is reported, a mod gets an alert, and steps in to see if there is indeed a rule being broken. Duplicate threads fall under spam, and spam is not tolerated on Dakka. So the mod could have easily come in, and say, "Alf you're full of gak" and left the thread alone. The mod most likely came in, saw that there was a similar topic already being discussed, and closed your thread. Your second thread was nothing but spam imo. It attempted to create the same thread that had just been locked down, and didn't even bother to link to anything original, just linked to your locked thread. You need to actually post why these things aren't racist (which you attempted to do, but you could use a little polish on your English writing skills).
Also is your tumblr in a direct response to the blogspot site antiwesterncosplay (or w/e the link is in the OP), because it would seem that it is, but instead of talking with us about why it's not racist (something we all agree on I believe), you're sitting here just talking about the mods and their bad decisions.
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Post by: Steve steveson
 Kilkrazy wrote:We moderators often make unwise decisions on Friday afternoons.
I'm keeping that for posterity and will quote it out of context as often as possible.  Automatically Appended Next Post: Alfndrate wrote:Kajune wrote:This topic title even fail to explain why he/she claim the blog owner as a crazy Anime fan. What this topic all doing is making false claim because unable to show any argumentation for it, that is not even counting if the argumentation are valid or not. Way very different from my topic that got locked, awful. The only reason I see the mod locking is the mod not like the topic content [ not that i breaks this forum laws ] and have to find baseless excuse to lock it by saying this also baseless topic are the same as it.
Also is your tumblr in a direct response to the blogspot site antiwesterncosplay (or w/e the link is in the OP), because it would seem that it is, but instead of talking with us about why it's not racist (something we all agree on I believe), you're sitting here just talking about the mods and their bad decisions.
And I think we would now all love to know exactly what you DO think, as it seems a little incoherent to me at the moment (as in I'm not sure if you, Kajune, are pro or anti).
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Post by: Kajune
My locked topic contents and my blog name especially content [ if you happen to be able to access it ] already explain it well which side I'm taking on so I'm not explaining it again.
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
Kilkrazy wrote:We moderators often make unwise decisions on Friday afternoons.
Does anyone make a good decision on a Friday afternoon?
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Post by: Hlaine Larkin mk2
The address you gave for your blog gives a a "Not found" result
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Post by: Steve steveson
Kajune wrote:My locked topic contents and my blog name especially content [ if you happen to be able to access it ] already explain it well which side I'm taking on so I'm not explaining it again.
Your blog address dose not work. And anyway, I'm not going to trawl through your blog because you don't want to write something here. Have a point to make? Make it here, not make me go somewhere else. Appart from anything else you will have a very disjointed discussion if it is spread across 2 sites.
I THINK what you were saying in your previous posts was that you think westerners are racist and that it is a western characteristic because Hitler was from Europe? If that is a correct understanding it is a blatantly wrong and quite offensive thing to say.
You also make allot of comments about anime being an Asian thing and then ramble about "westerners" thinking they are superior. I can't realy see much other than an ill thought out rant filed with the same racist comments made in the blog we were laughing at.
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Post by: Kajune
Alfndrate wrote:Kajune wrote:This topic title even fail to explain why he/she claim the blog owner as a crazy Anime fan. What this topic all doing is making false claim because unable to show any argumentation for it, that is not even counting if the argumentation are valid or not. Way very different from my topic that got locked, awful. The only reason I see the mod locking is the mod not like the topic content [ not that i breaks this forum laws ] and have to find baseless excuse to lock it by saying this also baseless topic are the same as it.
The reason why your first thread was locked was because I (a regular user, not a mod) reported it as a duplicate thread. When a thread is reported, a mod gets an alert, and steps in to see if there is indeed a rule being broken. Duplicate threads fall under spam, and spam is not tolerated on Dakka. So the mod could have easily come in, and say, "Alf you're full of gak" and left the thread alone. The mod most likely came in, saw that there was a similar topic already being discussed, and closed your thread. Your second thread was nothing but spam imo. It attempted to create the same thread that had just been locked down, and didn't even bother to link to anything original, just linked to your locked thread. You need to actually post why these things aren't racist (which you attempted to do, but you could use a little polish on your English writing skills).
Also is your tumblr in a direct response to the blogspot site antiwesterncosplay (or w/e the link is in the OP), because it would seem that it is, but instead of talking with us about why it's not racist (something we all agree on I believe), you're sitting here just talking about the mods and their bad decisions.
I seems to have hit someone's nail on the head and HARD too, awful [ for the nail owner ].
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
No such luck for me. I'm covering a front desk tonight so I may have people the worse for wear passing by me Automatically Appended Next Post:
I almost spat out my lunch with laughter Well played Sir.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kajune, you're my new favorite thing on dakka.
Keep up the work, you're hilarious!
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Post by: Kajune
I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
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Post by: Frazzled
Kilkrazy wrote: Frazzled wrote:I've been informed anime has proven that Hitler was a westerner, who liked to serve tea out of a Hitler teapot.
Actually if you read Hetalia Axis Powers you will find that all western nations are anime characters.
That explains my balding pate and rotund figure. I'm clearing the humorous fat semi simple dad archetype. Hurray!
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Both your other threads were locked because all of the argumentation on this particular topic belongs in one thread, which is this one.
You can copy and paste your text from the other thread into this one.
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Post by: Frazzled
Judging from my pounding head I'd say I made the bad decisioning last night. owee.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
You really are just the gift that keeps giving...
Bravo! Moar! MOAR I SAY!!!
I feel sure your time with us is going to be brief, but in that time, shine, shine brighter than the sun!
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Post by: Goliath
Leave exam hall.
Open bottle of vodka.
Drunk post on Dakka several (10+) shots later.
Am I doing it right?
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
Frazzled wrote:Judging from my pounding head I'd say I made the bad decisioning last night. owee.
If you haven't had the hair of the dog yet then you may still have made a bad decision today
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Post by: Frazzled
Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
1. I can tell ythat English is not your first language. I applaud your efforts here. Trying to discuss things in a different language is always difficult. Seriously
2. However I am slightly confused by your posts. Which are you arguing: A. westerners are racists; B westerners are not racists.
Further, what are you supporting that argument with?
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
 Goliath wrote:
Leave exam hall.
Open bottle of vodka.
Drunk post on Dakka several (10+) shots later.
Am I doing it right?
I think that's were I went wrong. I drank before exams, and did shots while doing coursework
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Post by: Frazzled
 MeanGreenStompa wrote:Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
You really are just the gift that keeps giving...
Bravo! Moar! MOAR I SAY!!!
I feel sure your time with us is going to be brief, but in that time, shine, shine brighter than the sun!
Be nice MGS. I think he's having some difficulties trying to get across what he wants to say due to language barriers. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Dreadclaw69 wrote: Frazzled wrote:Judging from my pounding head I'd say I made the bad decisioning last night. owee.
If you haven't had the hair of the dog yet then you may still have made a bad decision today
That is a very true statement.
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Post by: Kajune
Frazzled wrote:Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
1. I can tell ythat English is not your first language. I applaud your efforts here. Trying to discuss things in a different language is always difficult. Seriously
2. However I am slightly confused by your posts. Which are you arguing: A. westerners are racists; B westerners are not racists.
Further, what are you supporting that argument with?
My topic is about the westerners who claim Anime based on them that highly to be motivated by racist believe the same racist believe their ancestor have in the past who enslaved the native american and african which also passed on to the westerners who commit racism in sport, so not about the entire westerner.
And I'm not going to debate about my locked topic in here because the content and title are different.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
Frazzled wrote:
Be nice MGS. I think he's having some difficulties trying to get across what he wants to say due to language barriers.
What he/she said is:
"My point is that Westerners claim Anime is based on them, which is arrogant and racist assumption, whilst the blogger in question is about a blogger who said Westerners dressing as anime characters are inferior, due to their race.
I wish an admin to see this and my locked topic as I believe the mods are not acting correctly in my case.
The argument I made in my (now locked) topic is very strong and difficult to refute, so the people who disagreed with me, instead of trying to refute, reported it and got it locked, which is terrible injustice. "
Which is, frankly, idiotic, accusing 'Westerners' of racism (a racist statement) and being obtuse about how thread duplication is not tolerated on the forum, based on the trollish premise that his point was a fraction different (although joined at the hip in it's stupidity) to the point raised by the blogger in the OP. Automatically Appended Next Post: So he/she is basically saying 'Westerners assume the anime characters are based on them, because Westerners are arrogant and always believe the world revolves around them and their notions of superiority'.
And then, as you see above, he/she then flies up his/her own ass in a babbling stream of nonsense about killing native americans, slavery and racism in sport.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Kajune, you may want to actually read up on the history of Anime. The Grandfather of Anime, Osamu Tezuka, based his style on Donald Duck and other American art styles(Betty Boop and the ilk). That style has influenced ALL Anime, hence his title.
So stating that Anime is based on Westerners actually does have a bit of merit, as the style is heavily influenced by Western cartoon styling.
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Post by: Frazzled
Wait, whoever said anime is Western? Some of it is based on western (aka western movies not west as in NATO), but that also has similar themes to a lot of Samurai stuff.
But crossover stuff is normal. After all Ran is just King Lear. And you haven't lived until you've heard King Lear in the original Klingon.
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Post by: daedalus
Kajune wrote:My topic is about the westerners who claim Anime based on them that highly to be motivated by racist believe the same racist believe their ancestor have in the past who enslaved the native american and african which also passed on to the westerners who commit racism in sport, so not about the entire westerner.
Quite. How terrible we must be. We're not an enlightened people, for example, like the Indonesians, who have NEVER had a history of slavery in their culture.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Indonesia.htm
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/11/24/in-current-slave-trade-indonesia-largest-exporter.html
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CFoQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stasiareport.com%2Fthe-big-story%2Fasia-report%2Findonesia%2Fstory%2Findon-slave-factory-shocks-many-20130510&ei=LeWoUaipDcfIyAGXtYFQ&usg=AFQjCNGCtlwxP3bK9JxRC8KPkEAiP8GJ6w&sig2=zv1sXk36IEjC9d71hDiPJQ&bvm=bv.47244034,d.aWc
Whadah? Must be western lies, I suppose. Automatically Appended Next Post: You're still boring. Not like timecube guy after all. I'm sad.
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Post by: Breotan
Deciding to skip After Earth and go bar hopping instead?
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Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?
This thread is getting more interesting then I expected! I thought I'd get one or two comments along the line of "lol wtf", but now we're on page 3 and we're talking about poor Friday decisions AND we seem to have the creator of the blog (or someone very much like him) in the OP actually COMMENTING! This is highly entertaining.
Keep it up chaps!
~Tim?
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Post by: AtomicEngineer
I logged out of this last night, I return confuseled whats happening now?
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Post by: Steve steveson
So, a Indonisian person is complaining about people from the US appropriateing a Japanise art form?
Is this ironic or rank hypocrisy? I'm not sure... I did take the Mod advice and leave work to go to the pub after all.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
It isn't him, it is someone else.
I'm still not exactly sure what he is saying but it isn't nice to mock him for not having great English skills.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kilkrazy wrote:It isn't him, it is someone else.
I'm still not exactly sure what he is saying but it isn't nice to mock him for not having great English skills.
He was saying it's a western conceit that white folks thing anime is about them and that white folks are racists for thinking that, along with slavery (which apparently only white folks do) and massacring indigenous populations (again, that's a whites only problem as far as he's concerned).
So I didn't see anyone mocking him for his sentence construction or grammar, but I sure as hell mocked his ludicrous and asinine claim.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Cosplay is basically dressing up. The point of dressing up is to take on a different character to your own.
For centuries, people all over the world have dressed up as fictional characters to take part in parades, pageants and parties. The characters chosen naturally have been ones familiar to their culture. For example, King Edward III dressed up as King Arthur. When I was little, I dressed up as a knight or a cowboy.
Japanese anime and manga have become quite familiar to a western audience in the past 25 years. People enjoyed the characters and made dress-up costumes for them. They have also continued to dress up as western characters.
Westerners have dressed as oriental characters. Japanese people have dressed up as western characters. Women have dressed as men. Men have dressed as women. People have dressed as My Little Ponies. There are asian (i.e. Indian) cosplayers and black cosplayers, who have faced genuine racist comment for dressing as non-black characters...
There is nothing inherently racist in dressing up as someone from a different race.
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Post by: gunslingerpro
It is odd that Kajune came to a wargaming website's off topic forum to post strictly about racist westerners.
On a secondary note, ever wonder how Westerners are portrayed as having the same facial and body qualities as Easterners in Anime? Isn't anime almost entirely Utopian in that regard?
Color me confused.
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Post by: deathholydeath
Well, in the event that cosplaying anime characters is racist, I am most certainly going to hell.
You see, after attending a Dr. Who themed wedding, I've decided that my own wedding (when/if that ever happens) will be a Pokemon wedding.
My betrothed and I will dress up as trainers. The groomsmen and bridesmaids will all be dressed as different pokemon. Meowth will officiate. We'll keep our rings in pokeballs, then yell "I choose you!" as we put them on each other's fingers. At the end of the ceremony, we'll "blast off" to the reception party.
It's gonna be great, that's right.
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Post by: Ahtman
I wonder how he would feel about this?
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Post by: Doctadeth
And the amount of people who cosplay as COMIC BOOK characters isn't remotely similar to those who cosplay as anime. I've seen people pull off Iron man, Capt America. Hell, even Galactus (3 people stilt walking).
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Comics and Anime are a pretty even split in my local, most people I know who actively cosplay do both AND some sci fi costumes on the side.
(I do all three for example)
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Post by: Alpharius
 gunslingerpro wrote:It is odd that Kajune came to a wargaming website's off topic forum to post strictly about racist westerners.
It is odd.
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Post by: whitedragon
I want this thread to continue.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
So, Did the guy who did this come in and make a bunch of posts about Westeners?
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Post by: daedalus
 hotsauceman1 wrote:So, Did the guy who did this come in and make a bunch of posts about Westeners?
Yeah, they're racist for dressing like Anime characters. It's called cosplaying. They're also perhaps ashamed of their heritage, because they do this.
It's pretty fascinating.
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Post by: Ahtman
 daedalus wrote: hotsauceman1 wrote:So, Did the guy who did this come in and make a bunch of posts about Westeners?
Yeah, they're racist for dressing like Anime characters. It's called cosplaying. They're also perhaps ashamed of their heritage, because they do this.
It's pretty fascinating.
I was really interested in his really weird definitions of 'cute' and 'masculine', which seemed to have little to no connection to the actual concepts whatsoever.
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Post by: daedalus
Ahtman wrote:
I was really interested in his really weird definitions of 'cute' and 'masculine', which seemed to have little to no connection to the actual concepts whatsoever.
Where was he from anyway? Didn't his flag indicate he was from Singapore or Thailand or some place non-Japan? Automatically Appended Next Post: Which is, I suppose, not to say that places outside of Japan can have anime-style cartoons as well.
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Post by: Thesneakycyberman
Turns out, that if you search "western cosplayers are racist" (which I assume is something along the lines of what Kajune searched) This thread is one of the first results. Apparently, Kajune was zealous enough to make an account for a website dedicated to a hobby he/she probably never heard about and use it solely to make angry comments based on assumptions. Yup...
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Dang, Why did i have to miss that?
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Post by: Ahtman
 Thesneakycyberman wrote:Turns out, that if you search "western cosplayers are racist" (which I assume is something along the lines of what Kajune searched) This thread is one of the first results. Apparently, Kajune was zealous enough to make an account for a website dedicated to a hobby he/she probably never heard about and use it solely to make angry comments based on assumptions. Yup...
I think we have a new tagline for the siite.
Dakka: popular with awkward racists!
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Post by: Soladrin
Dakka: making racism popular again, because you're worth it.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Cute asian woman alert!
Ugly western woman
Drink this
Then it all looks like this
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Post by: purplefood
Does this mean anyone wearing jeans is trying to dress like a Westerner and is therefore racist?
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Purplefood has the right of it.
On a random side note, one place where the West needs to bow to Asian superiority is beer in vending machines. It's complete bull gak I can't grab a brew from the machine if I want one but instead have to track down a booze store and buy a six pack from them.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
They have wine from vending machines.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
and sake, booze from vending machines in general. It's brilliant. Side note, Japanese whiskey is pretty good.
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Post by: The Grumpy Eldar
The man who made that blogpost is really mental. Most stuff he tells is absolutely mental. I mean seriously almost everything the guy says can be disproved.
And asian cosplay can be as mindwreckingly bad as western cosplay.
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Post by: AduroT
I'm not sure I want all my women to have mustaches.
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Post by: Bullockist
Don't get old then AduroT, don't get old.
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Post by: Grey Templar
Ok, riddle me this.
Killkrazy obviously has a large photo collection of cute asian girls. His flag indicates Japan.
So, if Killkrazy was not in Japan, or another Asian country, would he be racist for having said collection? Assuming his collection is exclusively Asian girls.
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Post by: AtomicEngineer
I'm thinking a westerner really should cosplay as the blog maker then send them a picture lol
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Post by: Bullockist
If killkrazy likes them because they are asian, solely because they are asian, I would say that yes he is racist. If however he likes them for other reasons then it isn't racist.
I've been called racist for declaring I don't like the look of african women, the people declaring me racist conveniently forgetting I like asian women (generalisations both of them- there are exceptions to the my rule.). I then have to explain I don't like the general body shape and large facial features , personally I don't see the issue with that, it's personal taste.
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Post by: Ahtman
Bullockist wrote: people declaring me racist conveniently forgetting I like asian women
That sounds kind of racist too.
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Post by: Frazzled
 Grey Templar wrote:Ok, riddle me this.
Killkrazy obviously has a large photo collection of cute asian girls. His flag indicates Japan.
So, if Killkrazy was not in Japan, or another Asian country, would he be racist for having said collection? Assuming his collection is exclusively Asian girls.
No its perfectly fine. Killkrazy is secretly Jamaican. 
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Post by: Bullockist
Fine, I'll rephrase then. ...forgetting i like women with fine bone structure who also cosplay correctly because they are cute... happy?
*edit because i wanted to explain*
Most people are attracted to specific physical characteristics, blond hair red hair, blue eyes, green eyes, curly hair ect. I happen to like fine bone structure coupled with brown hair and brown eyes. If it is OK for someone to say I love redheads, it's ok to say i love asians.
It's my personal attraction that's the issue, I fail to see how someone else can declare my personal attractions racist.
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Post by: Ahtman
Bullockist wrote:
Fine, I'll rephrase then. ...forgetting i like women with fine bone structure who also cosplay correctly because they are cute... happy?
Not really, though much of that is unrelated. Still seems like exoticism, which can be a form of racism. It could also be that I am attracted to women. No ethnic justifications necessary. I like em tall, short, round, skinny, Asian, European, African, South American, blonde, brunette, ginger, strawberry blonde, native English Speakers, ESL, barely understand English, ect ect. I'm a modern day Benjamin Franklin.
Saying "I don't find person x to be all that appealing" is fine, but saying "I don't like African women" is a bit obtuse. Africa is a huge continent, and the looks and personalities vary greatly, yet you've boiled it down to one simple category. Same with the difference between "I find person X to be attractive" and "I find Asians to be attractive". There is a huge variety of Asian looks and attitudes as well, and some of them are truly, horrifically ugly people. Just like everywhere. So, I think it is a bit odd that you don't understand why people look at you funny when you define your attractions based purely on ethnicity.
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Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?
Ahtman wrote:Bullockist wrote: Fine, I'll rephrase then. ...forgetting i like women with fine bone structure who also cosplay correctly because they are cute... happy?
Not really, though much of that is unrelated. Still seems like exoticism, which can be a form of racism. It could also be that I am attracted to women. No ethnic justifications necessary. I like em tall, short, round, skinny, Asian, European, African, South American, blonde, brunette, ginger, strawberry blonde, native English Speakers, ESL, barely understand English, ect ect. I'm a modern day Benjamin Franklin. Saying "I don't find person x to be all that appealing" is fine, but saying "I don't like African women" is a bit obtuse. Africa is a huge continent, and the looks and personalities vary greatly, yet you've boiled it down to one simple category. Same with the difference between "I find person X to be attractive" and "I find Asians to be attractive". There is a huge variety of Asian looks and attitudes as well, and some of them are truly, horrifically ugly people. Just like everywhere. So, I think it is a bit odd that you don't understand why people look at you funny when you define your attractions based purely on ethnicity.
I'm just attracted to women in general. Having specific "types" that you're attracted to never has made much sense to me. ~Tim?
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Post by: Zathras
Kajune wrote: Frazzled wrote:Kajune wrote:I forgot to add that, my topic is about westerners who claim Anime based on them which hightly to be motivated by racist believe, while this topic is about a blogger who claim western cosplayers as racist.
Is there a way to let the admin know what is goind on in here?
I think the argumentation I made in my locked topic are very hard to defeat so the one who got their nail's head hammered by it have to use baseless excuse to report and asked it to be locked, awful.
1. I can tell ythat English is not your first language. I applaud your efforts here. Trying to discuss things in a different language is always difficult. Seriously
2. However I am slightly confused by your posts. Which are you arguing: A. westerners are racists; B westerners are not racists.
Further, what are you supporting that argument with?
My topic is about the westerners who claim Anime based on them that highly to be motivated by racist believe the same racist believe their ancestor have in the past who enslaved the native american and african which also passed on to the westerners who commit racism in sport, so not about the entire westerner.
And I'm not going to debate about my locked topic in here because the content and title are different.
Kajune, king of the run on sentence.....and a racist. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Or Man Faye.
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Post by: Bullockist
The statement is a generalisation it is not 100% true. I don't particularly find indonesians attractive but do find africans from one particular part of the continent attractive. If the generalisation is mostly true then it's much easier to say than an alternative description.
It might be great just to say I'm attracted to everyone, but for me this is not the case. The statement does not rule out anyone of a specific ethnicity, just points to my personal taste preferences.
Also in reference to this I am talking physical looks not anything metaphysical. Seriousness aside, it's on to the silly statements.....
I'll never say anything that could be construed as negative against Africans again, personal taste be damned. I'll try to be inclusive of everyone when I judge people on how attractive I find them.
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Post by: master of ordinance
*Shudder* much nightmares incoming.... assuming we actualy get to sleep.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
So im taking a class on the hart and histroy of asia.
Does that make me racist?
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Post by: deathholydeath
hotsauceman1 wrote:So im taking a class on the hart and histroy of asia.
Does that make me racist?
Only if you dress up or try to take part in any way.
Probably best to just withdraw, really.
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Post by: Hordini
hotsauceman1 wrote:So im taking a class on the hart and histroy of asia.
Does that make me racist?
That depends. Are you Asian? If yes, then no. If no, then yes. At least if we're going by the rubric Kajune seems to be using.
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Post by: whitedragon
The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
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Post by: purplefood
 whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
Don't worry the artists obviously based her looks on asian people. She only lives in america (Or wherever the hell it is) by an accident of geography.
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Post by: MrDwhitey
And also because Kajune is a troll spouting absolute crap.
Sadly though, Poe's law is in effect, because people genuinely believe the crap he spewed.
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Post by: Ahtman
 MrDwhitey wrote:And also because Kajune is a troll spouting absolute crap.
Sadly though, Poe's law is in effect, because people genuinely believe the crap he spewed.
If you can give a better reason than "why, it is so crazy it has to be fake" as to why it is impossible for someone to actually believe such lunacy when we all know that humans are perfectly capable of such lunacy I would enjoy hearing it. Are you friends with the author and so know that they are just trolling? Some other first hand knowledge?
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Post by: purplefood
Well we can assume he was a troll due to how persistent he was in coming onto this forum.
Thing is...
An extremist would be the same since they're all crazy.
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Post by: Ahtman
 purplefood wrote:Well we can assume he was a troll due to how persistent he was in coming onto this forum.
Thing is...
An extremist would be the same since they're all crazy.
Exactly. I can't say with certainty either way, but my gut says that in this case, considering all the time put into pictures and videos and other time consuming activities that he is the real deal. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be a hoax, but at the moment I am leaning toward him just being off his rocker.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
I'm half Irish and half German while ALSO living in America and being an American citizen! See? It works like that. Or more specifically people move around, one of Asuka's grandparents was German, the other was Japanese, their son or daughter married (or at least bred with) a full blood German, after immigrating to the United States (with the grandparents most likely) resulting in standard issue American genetic mutt Asuka.
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Post by: purplefood
 KalashnikovMarine wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
I'm half Irish and half German while ALSO living in America and being an American citizen! See? It works like that. Or more specifically people move around, one of Asuka's grandparents was German, the other was Japanese, their son or daughter married (or at least bred with) a full blood German, after immigrating to the United States (with the grandparents most likely) resulting in standard issue American genetic mutt Asuka.
I think he meant how does it work in claiming she is Asian when she has more claim to being American or German?
It's easy to believe someone is part German and part Japanese...
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Post by: Dakkamite
I just read the first paragraph or so.
"hurr durr westerners are racist only superior asians should be able to do whatever"
I mean really? How hypocritical can someone get?
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Post by: MrDwhitey
Ahtman wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:And also because Kajune is a troll spouting absolute crap.
Sadly though, Poe's law is in effect, because people genuinely believe the crap he spewed.
If you can give a better reason than "why, it is so crazy it has to be fake" as to why it is impossible for someone to actually believe such lunacy when we all know that humans are perfectly capable of such lunacy I would enjoy hearing it. Are you friends with the author and so know that they are just trolling? Some other first hand knowledge?
Nah, I just find it so crazy that I hope it's trolling just so my head hurts less.
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Post by: whitedragon
purplefood wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
I'm half Irish and half German while ALSO living in America and being an American citizen! See? It works like that. Or more specifically people move around, one of Asuka's grandparents was German, the other was Japanese, their son or daughter married (or at least bred with) a full blood German, after immigrating to the United States (with the grandparents most likely) resulting in standard issue American genetic mutt Asuka.
I think he meant how does it work in claiming she is Asian when she has more claim to being American or German?
It's easy to believe someone is part German and part Japanese...
Correct. Jeez man, context clues!
But I mean, the real point is, the blog owner doesn't have to make sense because he's clearly nuts.
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Post by: Ahtman
 Desubot wrote:http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/03/02/new-twist-on-hatsune-miku-cosplay
bloody gaking brilliant
How adorable and creative.
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Post by: purplefood
That's actually fairly clever...
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Post by: Soladrin
purplefood wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
Don't worry the artists obviously based her looks on asian people. She only lives in america (Or wherever the hell it is) by an accident of geography.
While she actually speaks german in the anime... admittely really gak german, but it's something. Never ask Japanese voice actors to do a different language, it will hurt your brain.
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Post by: deathholydeath
whitedragon wrote: purplefood wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
I'm half Irish and half German while ALSO living in America and being an American citizen! See? It works like that. Or more specifically people move around, one of Asuka's grandparents was German, the other was Japanese, their son or daughter married (or at least bred with) a full blood German, after immigrating to the United States (with the grandparents most likely) resulting in standard issue American genetic mutt Asuka.
I think he meant how does it work in claiming she is Asian when she has more claim to being American or German?
It's easy to believe someone is part German and part Japanese...
Correct. Jeez man, context clues!
But I mean, the real point is, the blog owner doesn't have to make sense because he's clearly nuts.
Along these lines, Francesca Dani is also one of the most successful international cosplayers, and she's Italian.
So yeah, I think we can all agree the guy's either a nutter or a troll.
But either way, it's amusing.
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Post by: whitedragon
 Soladrin wrote: purplefood wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
Don't worry the artists obviously based her looks on asian people. She only lives in america (Or wherever the hell it is) by an accident of geography.
While she actually speaks german in the anime... admittely really gak german, but it's something. Never ask Japanese voice actors to do a different language, it will hurt your brain.
Lol she speaks English when I watch it. (I only watch the dub, suck it you haterz!)
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Post by: Captain Fantastic
Mmm, Western cosplayers are okay for atmosphere. If I look too close, I just become disappointed. It's nice to see people walking around in costume though.
Ｗａｉｔｏ ｐｉｇｕ ｇｏ ｈｏｍｕ！
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Post by: Kilkrazy
whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
She can gain Japanese citizenship from her part Japanese parent, and does not have to give it up until the age of 21. She gains German citizenship from her part German parent.
If she was born in the USA she would be a US citizen.
If before the age of 20 she married a citizen of Iran, she could hold four passports because wives of Iranian husbands get citizenship automatically.
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Post by: whitedragon
Kilkrazy wrote: whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
She can gain Japanese citizenship from her part Japanese parent, and does not have to give it up until the age of 21. She gains German citizenship from her part German parent.
If she was born in the USA she would be a US citizen.
If before the age of 20 she married a citizen of Iran, she could hold four passports because wives of Iranian husbands get citizenship automatically.
I have no idea what you're even trying to say anymore. Asuka is much more European (or even "gasp" white!) then Asian, so the blog owner and Kajune are nutbar for claiming that only Asians can cosplay her. There are also plenty of other anime characters that are meant to be "not japanese or asian" that are literally drawn the same as each other, so asians would look silly cosplaying those characters I guess according to the blog owner and Kajune. (Code Geass, practially everyone is British for crying out loud).
Also, we have no idea if Asuka can gain Japanese citizenship or not, because she's listed by the author/director/Character Designer as being an American. We don't know if her parents were Americans of Asian and German descent, or what. Her "part Japanese" parent may be 2nd or 3rd or 4th or so on generation and may not even have Japanese citizenship anymore. But even so, as an American of mostly European descent, she is a poor example for the blog owner to use.
But we all knew that already, because well, we all agree that the blog owner is a nutjob.
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Post by: Frazzled
whitedragon wrote:The blog owner (is it also Kajune?) uses Asuka from Evangelion as an example in his video, but according to Wikipedia, Asuka is 1/4 Japanese and 3/4 German, while also being an American citizen!
How does that work!!?!?!?!?!
Mmm he's an American mutt. The shoe is now officially on the other foot.
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Post by: SoloFalcon1138
I do think there are a lot of cosplayers who are misinformed as to what certain aspects of anime/manga/etc are and prove insulting to the native culture. That's just simple ignorance of courtesy.
That being said, just being offended doesn't grant someone special rights, it just means they are upset.
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Post by: JWhex
That blog is pretty damn funny in a "Chick Tract" twisted logic way. The fascination of the Japanese with these anime female characters has a dark underside. The relative large eyes, round head and tiny nose are very paedomorphic in appearance. In normal language that means from an embryological/developmental perspective they are similar to characters at a very early stage.
Coincidentally enough the Japanese produce a hugely disproportionate amount of the world's child pornography.
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Post by: daedalus
JWhex wrote:That blog is pretty damn funny in a "Chick Tract" twisted logic way. The fascination of the Japanese with these anime female characters has a dark underside. The relative large eyes, round head and tiny nose are very paedomorphic in appearance. In normal language that means from an embryological/developmental perspective they are similar to characters at a very early stage.
Coincidentally enough the Japanese produce a hugely disproportionate amount of the world's child pornography.
That sounds like modern day racism to me, if I've ever heard such a thing.
I am not being serious.
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Post by: chromedog
The difference being that 13 year olds are legal in Japan.
Not so in the rest of the world.
But then again, many other things that are illegal elsewhere are not in Japan. They don't have the moralistic straightjacketing that Abrahamic religions bought the west.
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Post by: Ahtman
 chromedog wrote:The difference being that 13 year olds are legal in Japan.
Not so in the rest of the world.
Well yes, sort of….but not really.
However, that’s part of the reason for the popularity of Enjo kyosai (援助交際) aka “compensated dating” where high school-aged girls are paid by older men to “date” them (and render sexual services generally).
Here’s the way the so-called “age 13 is age of consent” works:
The age of consent in Japan is 13 years old under the Japanese national criminal law code. However, all municipalities and prefectures have their own particular laws such as Tokyo’s “Youth Protection Law” which prohibit adults from having sex with youths who are under 17 years old. Because the age of consent in Japan ranges from 13 to 18, depending on jurisdiction, many enjo kyosai clients cannot be charged with statutory rape. See the website:
Japan - Age of Consent
Although the age of sexual consent in Japan is 13 years of age, prefecture law usually overrides federal law, raising the age up to 18.
As an added note, even though the age of consent in Japan can be 13, the age of majority is 20 for voting. The age of adulthood is considered 20 and driving age is 18.
Weird? Here’s a better one. Japan’s “Prostitution Prevention Act”(1958) only prohibits actual sexual
intercourse (or sex controlled by organized crime). That law defines as That law defines as “true” sexual conduct between men and women, and not to “imitation” between same sex persons, so gay prostitution is not prohibited directly. That also makes hand jobs, water queens, or homosexual SM nuns legal.
Therefore, creatively kinky places like the “Sexual Harassment Corporation” where you pay to molest girls in school and business sets are totally legal.
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Post by: Grey Templar
Damn, that may explain why so many Anime have such young heroines. Now I'm creeped out.
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Post by: JWhex
daedalus wrote:JWhex wrote:That blog is pretty damn funny in a "Chick Tract" twisted logic way. The fascination of the Japanese with these anime female characters has a dark underside. The relative large eyes, round head and tiny nose are very paedomorphic in appearance. In normal language that means from an embryological/developmental perspective they are similar to characters at a very early stage.
Coincidentally enough the Japanese produce a hugely disproportionate amount of the world's child pornography.
That sounds like modern day racism to me, if I've ever heard such a thing.
I am not being serious.
There is nothing racist about describing anime cartoon characters as paedomorphic or repeating what has been widely reported, that the Japanese are prolific producers of child porn, that is old news. I guess you just didnt really read the post. Your comment makes no sense at all.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
JWhex wrote: daedalus wrote:JWhex wrote:That blog is pretty damn funny in a "Chick Tract" twisted logic way. The fascination of the Japanese with these anime female characters has a dark underside. The relative large eyes, round head and tiny nose are very paedomorphic in appearance. In normal language that means from an embryological/developmental perspective they are similar to characters at a very early stage.
Coincidentally enough the Japanese produce a hugely disproportionate amount of the world's child pornography.
That sounds like modern day racism to me, if I've ever heard such a thing.
I am not being serious.
There is nothing racist about describing anime cartoon characters as paedomorphic or repeating what has been widely reported, that the Japanese are prolific producers of child porn, that is old news. I guess you just didnt really read the post. Your comment makes no sense at all.
I guess you didn't read the small print
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Zing!
I'm really glad I don't run into this stuff much, either while I was on my trip or in Japanese media consumption.
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Post by: azazel the cat
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:I do think there are a lot of cosplayers who are misinformed as to what certain aspects of anime/manga/etc are and prove insulting to the native culture. That's just simple ignorance of courtesy.
To what misinformation are you referring?
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Post by: DeffDred
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't cosplay mean "costume play"?
So what came first? DnD roleplay or anime cosplay?
Who started dying... dye-ing... coloring their hair first? Europeans or Asians?
Who has the larger round eyes of multiple colors? The Europeans or the Asians?
The blogger is an idiot pure and simple.
I'll admit I didn't read too much of it only because I couldn'y make out any other words besides Western and Asian.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
DnD came out first but it's really not relate-able to cosplay in the sense you're trying to draw a connection. There's been forms of cosplay for as long as there's been humans really. Even Halloween is a form of cosplay.
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Post by: JWhex
An Asian playing the race card is damn ludicrous anyway. The Japanese are one of the most homogenous, inward looking, racist people on the planet. The Japanese believe they are superior not only to westerners but also other Asians. This deep rooted superiority complex is one factor that enabled them to commit so many atrocities during the second world war.
I am less familiar with the level of racism among Chinese people but among Koreans racism is very common especially against Africans.
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