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Post by: Cave_Dweller
So, nasty thread title, I admit. But I have been waiting and waiting for this game to come down in price. I thought I looked cool and seemed to be getting rave reviews.
This game has been hyped and heavily promoted on Steam for a while now. All video reviews I watched on YouTube seemed to suggest it was a great game.
But, I've not found to be enjoyable at all, so far. In fact, quite the opposite. Getting owned by almost any monster. Doesn't seem to be a way to heal yourself other than running over the crates, if there's a healing pack in there. The guns suck. They suck real bad. Like, abysmally bad. I'm level 3 so far.
And I'm not saying you should have the best guns right at the start of the game. You shouldn't. But I'm also not seeing any kind of gameplay action or storyline hook that makes me want to continue with this game.
Usually by level 3 in a RPG or even a FPS game I've gotten some kind of hook or incentive to keep me interested in the game. But I'm just not seeing it here. And I want to, but so far this game hasn't been enjoyable at all. I've just not seen any kind of enjoyable gameplay elements here.
But I did buy it on sale, and I'm wondering, does it get better, or is it only a leveling treadmill from here on out? Is there any kind of decent gameplay here and what's up with this game? It seems like World of Warcraft turned into a FPS.
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Post by: Super Ready
The best thing by far is that it's ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS. Beyond that... if you're only level 3 you've really not even scratched the tip of the iceberg... there's a lot to do here and you will soon notice things pick up.
At level 5 you get your class-defining ability, so at the very least stick it out til then.
If anyone else you know plays it, they can hop into your game to lend a hand.
Lastly, the classes have different ways of dealing with bad guys - at level 3 there's not much between them but if you're finding it too difficult as you get higher (say by about level 10), try someone else.
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Post by: Sigvatr
You judge a game based on less than 30 mins gameplay? 
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Post by: Soladrin
I don't remember the start of borderlands 2 being hard....
Anyway, yeah, as said before, you are judging a game based on like 15 minutes of play.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I personally couldn't bring myself to complete the 2nd playthrough, but the first wasn't too bad. I think it lacks the innate replayability of BL1 but it's made up for somewhat by the improved script writing.
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Post by: Rotgut
Well it doesn't help that your level 3, like Super Ready said stick it out till level 5 and the game will be a little easier on you as you get your abilities.
While some parts may be difficult on your own its not really a hard game as you immediately re spawn when you die.
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Post by: Ahtman
It also was designed with multiplayer in mind, so that while you can still do single player and enjoy it, multiplayer is were it opens up.
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Post by: Ouze
I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).
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Post by: LordofHats
 Ouze wrote:I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).
This. I was kind of 'meh' on the game throughout the frozen wasteland you start in. Once you start reconnecting with the first game's characters though and getting a little more free roam in, the game gets much funner.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Sigvatr wrote:You judge a game based on less than 30 mins gameplay?
Yeah, I kinda do. Like I said good games usually have a solid hook right from the start that keeps you wanting to play more.
LordofHats wrote: Ouze wrote:I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).
This. I was kind of 'meh' on the game throughout the frozen wasteland you start in. Once you start reconnecting with the first game's characters though and getting a little more free roam in, the game gets much funner.
Ok, so I'm not the only one at least. I'll give it another go and see if I can get anywhere.
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Post by: Sigvatr
It basically is Diablo in the future, with guns and a solid story. And yes, the start was rather weak. Overall, I'd have preferred to see some green areas for variety.
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Post by: purplefood
How are you getting your arse kicked at the start?
As long as you aren't overly stupid it shouldn't be too bad.
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Post by: Avatar 720
It depends on the class, too. My first char was Zer0 and I definitely felt 'weak', but when I re-rolled as Aston it got much easier.
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Post by: purplefood
Zer0 is really hard to start on tbh...
A lot weaker than the others.
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Post by: Ouze
Also, yeah; I found Zer0 in general to just... not be very much fun.
They wanted to have a rogue-style class that required a great deal of interactions to play, but I think they went too far and it felt more like constant work than fun. I think any of the other classes offer a much more enjoyable experience, I liked Axton and Gaige both quite a bit. and have tried them all .
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Post by: purplefood
I found Zer0 loads of fun...
If you max out the bloodlust tree you can be invisible for so long
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Post by: Kanluwen
Zer0 is crap unless you have a coop partner.
Krieg is more or less the same.
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Post by: Macok
I concur. When I first started playing solo zero it was kinda hard. After switching to the turret guy it went much easier.
Still, I also got bored with the game quite fast.
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Post by: kirsanth
Playing a co-op based game solo will indeed make it seem awkward, at best.
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Post by: Ahtman
Recommended Starting Classes if solo: Commando, Mechromancer, Gunzerker.
The other three don't have a way to easily avoid gunfire or deal with being the only target for many levels. The Siren is sort of on the border, depending on which build you go with. If you are playing co- op it doesn't really matter as having an extra person to draw fire makes a big difference.
Also, the next D&D themed expansion looks like a lot of fun.
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Post by: Ouze
lol@D&D. Looks hilarious.
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Post by: Necroshea
I've put a couple hours into it. The beginning of the game is much like later on in the game.
From personal experience, if you think the beginning is boring, it will stay boring for a while. Maybe very late game it just gets radically different but I'm pretty sure that's not true.
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Post by: Redeemer31
See if you can find a friend to play with. The dialogue is funny (love Claptrap) but I don't think I could play it without a friend; way too many other games out there that are better playing solo.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Ok so been playing it a bit more and it definitely got better. I got to level 10 so far. You guys were right about the powers. And that you shouldn't play it solo as well. I mainly play singleplayer games on Steam. I guess I just got frustrated with a rough start to things.
I chose the Siren class and she is best with company, it seems. So I went online and some uber veteran player that randomly joined my game was extremely generous and gave me a really nice blaster, some kind of poison submachine gun. That made a tremendous difference and it's nice to see the community is fairly good in this game. In fact all of the people that randomly joined my games were fun to game with.
Plus it definitely has a good sense of humor. Bonerfarts, lol.
I shall redact my initial post, this game is fun! =)
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Post by: kirsanth
If you play Siren co-op, get Rez ASAP, then try out the tree on the right - avoid blight pheonix though - Phaselock that can revive freinds, and also slag, electrocute, burn, and corrode enemies is awesome. Eventually singularity can be added.
Any time I play another character I miss Phaselock.
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Post by: Necros
I tried using Zer0 at fist, and did good with him but on my 2nd time around I used Maya, she rocks.
The game might be tough at first if you're not used to it, you just have to get a feel for things. What I like most about part 2 is the story and it's just a funny game all around. And the DLC stories are fun too. Maybe it's not for everyone but I enjoyed it.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
What to like about this game?....try krieg the psyco and his special ability....going into rage mode with a buzzaxe is jist pure bliss...also the amount of easter eggs in the game.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Solo, Axton has to be my favorite, the turret just rocks.
But with a group I love Zero, he's very difficult to play to start with, but once you get further in, wow. With my skills, class mod, relic and gun(200% melee damage) I can deal well over 30k melee damage at level 30 xD
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Post by: purplefood
It's great when you max out bloodshed.
You run run around invisible annihilating enemies...
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
What is the best gun to get for starters?....is it the flynts tinderbox?
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
 There is no "best gun" every gun has randomly generated stats, then it depends on your class skills and mod,
then it's down to preference, for example I rarely use a pistol that isn't Jakobs or a shotgun that isn't Torgue,
I never use Tediore apart from rocket launchers.
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Post by: purplefood
SMGs are good when Maliwan makes them...
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
In the mission where you have to get the bullymong fur should i get the sniper from sir hammerlock or the shotgun from claptrap?
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Post by: purplefood
I give it to Hammerlock on the principle that he is a gentleman...
Also I dislike shotguns...
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Post by: Deathklaat
except Krieg + Shotgun = win
really, i just use my shotty untill i am nice and close and wait untill i am at 33% hp and then i murder EVERYTHING.
so far with my new class mod and skills i can 2 shot a super badass the same level as me at 40. I laugh at bosses as i rampage through them usually only needing one or two rampages to kill them. doing well over 150k dmg at lvl 40 is totally broken.
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Post by: purplefood
Good point...
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Post by: Necros
I never really cared for shotguns, I'm the spray & pray type so I'd have a sniper rifle for long distance stuff, and a good assault rifle and smg ready for when things get close. I take the highest dmg rocket launcher I can find and that's just my Second Wind machine. If I go down, I pull out the launcher and blast away till I get up again, that's really the only time I ever use one.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I might get the infinity or the hellfire legendarys as they seem really easy to get...also is there an assassin minecraft head?
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I love the golden chest...
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Post by: djones520
One day when I logged on I just randomly recieved 10 golden keys. Everyone I've talked to seems to indicate I'm a lucky SOB. Haven't used any of them yet, wanted to wait until I got through the initial storyline before I did.
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Post by: kirsanth
I think I have opened that chest close to 100 times.
Was most useful after powerleveling a Psycho for a bit, though.
I had no loot on him yet to decide was better!
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I got 10 random golden keys too!
also i need to sell a lot of the pink/purple weapons to get the SMG of moxxi...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
also if anyone on PS3 wants a tinderbox unique weapon i have a spare one...(my username on PS3 is the same as this one on dakka)invite me to a game around 5pm GMT and 7pm GMT (not 6pm GMT)
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Why would someone want the tinderbox from you? everyone gets one from killing captain Flynt
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I have the different tinderbox...
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Post by: Super Ready
What different tinderbox? Pics or it didn't happen.
If it's still a form of the fire pistol, it's still not too fancy once you start getting stuff like the rocket launcher that hops like a demented bunny rabbit. Or the submachine gun that makes extreeeeeemely irritating noises whenever you fire it. Or the robot shotgun that delights in your frags.
God, I love the unique weapons.
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Post by: Mojo1jojo
Number 1 "don't"
Number 2 "bother"
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Post by: purplefood
You appear to be slightly late to this thread...
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
No captain Flynt drops a Tinderbox the first time you kill him. Everytime, everyone has/had one.
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Post by: purplefood
It might be a glitched one...
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Post by: Super Ready
There's still no pics, and google-fu doesn't bring up anything else trustworthy, so I'm still calling: didn't happen. 
UNLESS it's the higher level version you get from going through True Vault Hunter mode.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Vulkan_He'stan wrote:
No captain Flynt drops a Tinderbox the first time you kill him. Everytime, everyone has/had one.
There is also a second Tinderbox which you can get in Tundra Express by beating up the snowman's face at the entrance of the zone.
It's usually a good 10 levels higher and more effective.
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Post by: Gandohar
I have just never really been able to get into the Borderlands series. I've tried both games and I really have tried to like them but I find I just get bored after a few hours or so because it just feels too much like grinding to me.
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Post by: kirsanth
Single player does that to me too.
Though grinding just reminded me of a good idea for finally getting a Kawaii Killer head.
Thanks!
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I just got the psycho pack DLC....how do I change character without getting rid of my assassin...do you just press new game and change characters when you play co-op?
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Post by: Super Ready
orkdestroyer1 wrote:I just got the psycho pack DLC....how do I change character without getting rid of my assassin...do you just press new game and change characters when you play co- op?
Yup! That's pretty much it. The main menu has a "Change Character" option and there's new game options there too:
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Where is the 'change character' option? Automatically Appended Next Post: Also this website is the best place to get golden keys as it lists all shift codes that havent expired yet!
http://orcz.com/Borderlands_2:_Golden_Key
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Post by: Deathklaat
you press Y when you are at the main menu screen (as shown on Super Ready's screen shot)
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Or triangle...
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Post by: Kanluwen
Just a FYI:
Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep comes out next week...and we're getting a SECOND season pass. The second pass will include as its first DLC an assault on the moon base.
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Post by: purplefood
Finally! I really wanted to mess shiz up either on the moon or blowing up Jack's space station...
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Daym!.....gearbox stole my idea!
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Post by: psychadelicmime
At first it was meh, but then I played online and started dual wielding Maliwan snipers (one shoots lightning, the other acid.) and then it was great.
If you stick with it it gets fun.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Hmn, may have to give the game a reinstall if there will be new DLC. Does Steam keep your saves?
Actually come to think of it I still haven't beaten the boss at the end of the Big Game Hunt. That thing just kept beating the crap out of me. =(
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Post by: kirsanth
Next week's DLC sounds fantastic.
I want a gun that shoots swords.
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Post by: Deathklaat
yeay more stuff to murder with Krieg. Krieg is such a badass i have been playing solo and i just started UVH and really have not had many problems. Super Badass Loaders and Badass Constructer v2 gave me a bit of trouble but i eventually downed them after leveling up a bit.
i still have not figured out the best way to maximize Krieg's dmg output because it is so random sometimes. sometimes i hit something for 300k, other times 600k and i have seen over 900k when rampaging through bandits at lvl 51.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
kreig is a beast...
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Post by: Super Ready
 Wyrmalla wrote:Hmn, may have to give the game a reinstall if there will be new DLC. Does Steam keep your saves?
Not to my knowledge - but on Windows at least, you should have some saved stuff under Documents unless you opted to clear it out when uninstalling.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Yeah steam does keep your saves, all that cloud shizzle
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Post by: Super Ready
Soooo, thanks to this thread I've got back into the game and I picked up Krieg. ...and just like that I'm hooked again. Can't wait for Assault on Dragon Keep!!
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Post by: Deathklaat
i am pretty sure that was released today.
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Post by: kirsanth
Yesterday on PSN.
^^
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
I need to actually boot up my comp and play this some more. Think I'm around level 12 or so, but I've been painting like a maniac most days. Probably best to paint. But gaming sure is fun.
And I have to say I was really wrong about this game. Bad start, but fun overall.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Finished Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep.
That was fantastic. It had the right amount of depth, with the right amount of silliness and seriousness.
The only annoyance I have is that at completion, it seems the head and skin for the DLC were not awarded...which makes me think it might be tied to the raid boss which kinda sucks.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I just DLed it on a friend's Xbox, as mine is currently packed up and waiting to move. I can't wait to try it out.
What is the raid boss, Kan?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Commencing spoiler blockage...
So everyone doing well? That's nice to hear! I hope everyone has a good week and has some fun plans for the weekend!
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Post by: gunslingerpro
Only a bit into Tiny Tina's.
Sniping skeletons with Zero has been interesting to say the least.
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Post by: Happygrunt
 Kanluwen wrote:Just a FYI:
Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep comes out next week...and we're getting a SECOND season pass. The second pass will include as its first DLC an assault on the moon base.
I thought that was just a rumor?
I picked the game up for 78% off on Amazon and I am enjoying it much more on PC then I did in PS3. I started as Krieg this time and having a lot of fun.
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Post by: Super Ready
I'll say... more like "an exercise in frustration" if trying it solo, mind. :\ At least there are other ways to tackle them.
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Post by: purplefood
A Bloodshed zero is pretty good...
You just need to avoid hitting the shields or helmets which can be really hard sometimes...
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Happygrunt wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Just a FYI:
Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep comes out next week...and we're getting a SECOND season pass. The second pass will include as its first DLC an assault on the moon base.
I thought that was just a rumor?
I picked the game up for 78% off on Amazon and I am enjoying it much more on PC then I did in PS3. I started as Krieg this time and having a lot of fun.
Spoilers ho!
Woob woob woob. Woob woob woob.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Just played through it and was rewarded with a Barking Volcano for killing Handsome Jack. I mean the Sorcerer. No spoilers, because....duh. Anyone who started the DLC knew you faced HJ again. Level 50 Volcano? Yes, please. The deaths from the moving gate/platform you have to run over were all worth it. All 7 of them.
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Post by: kirsanth
Also, is the queen . . . ironic?
Best DLC by far.
Actually got seraph crystals from the slots!
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Post by: illuknisaa
Is borderlands 2+ seasons pass worth 13.5€? It really doesn't seem so as none of my friends have the game and there is suppose to be even more dlc so it might be worth to wait.
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Post by: kirsanth
The season pass was stated to include DLCs that are already released (now) - the last promised was Tiny Tina's.
For solo play only, I am not sure - it does give you a lot more content to prevent the need to grind as much.
I thought it was/is a phenomenally good deal - but I have a partner to play with basically all the time.
Random thought:
Is there a way to see time played on PS3?
I know Steam tracks it and was talking with someone at work who thought their 300 hours played was a lot.
I immediately thought of my first MMO character that had time played pass the 1 year mark . . .and realized that I don't recall a means to check with these.
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Post by: gunslingerpro
 purplefood wrote:A Bloodshed zero is pretty good...
You just need to avoid hitting the shields or helmets which can be really hard sometimes...
Decided to get upclose and personal with Acidic SMG. Does wonders.
Also:
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Post by: purplefood
 gunslingerpro wrote: purplefood wrote:A Bloodshed zero is pretty good...
You just need to avoid hitting the shields or helmets which can be really hard sometimes...
Decided to get upclose and personal with Acidic SMG. Does wonders.
I've got a shock smg which has a similar effect...
Though I do enjoy scything through a small army of dwarves or skeletons as an invisible harbinger of death...
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Post by: Kanluwen
gunslingerpro wrote: purplefood wrote:A Bloodshed zero is pretty good...
You just need to avoid hitting the shields or helmets which can be really hard sometimes...
Decided to get upclose and personal with Acidic SMG. Does wonders.
Also:
Bear in mind to make sure you find a reaaaaaally nice 'plain' SMG in addition to an elemental one. There are quite a few enemies in Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep that flatout ignore elemental damage.
Also:
When you see a "Fractured Skeleton" holding his swords gangsta style? Do not fire. He reflects all damage back at you.
I learned that from a rocket launcher deflecting...
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Post by: purplefood
Which enemies ignore all elemental damage?
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Post by: Kanluwen
What guns provide all elemental damage?
There are a ton of enemies which ignore Corrosive(acid) damage within the DLC, a ton that ignore Electric, some ignoring Slag, and plenty ignoring Fire.
Having a normal gun is a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery good thing to do.
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Post by: purplefood
Kanluwen wrote:
What guns provide all elemental damage?
There are a ton of enemies which ignore Corrosive(acid) damage within the DLC, a ton that ignore Electric, some ignoring Slag, and plenty ignoring Fire.
Having a normal gun is a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery good thing to do.
When you said 'flatout ignore elemental damage' I assumed this meant ignored all elemental damage...
Even the regular Borderlands has enemies that ignore elemental damage...
Yeah having a regular gun is a good idea, having various elemental weapons is also a good idea...
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Post by: Shadowbrand
Because of how damn hot moxxie is.
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Post by: Deathklaat
i dont have to worry about elemental damage because i play Krieg and i have actually stopped using guns at this point in the game lol.
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Post by: Super Ready
I'm not sure anything does actually *ignore* elemental damage completely... rather, it's "resisted", meaning it deals just a small fraction of that damage.
In practice, once you're past level 10-15 the damage is so small it might as well be ignored...
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Post by: kirsanth
Oh yea, we did get a SWORDSPLOSION!
It is awesome.
Seriously. A gun that shoots swords that explode into other swords that explode like grenades.
Amazing.
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Post by: gunslingerpro
 kirsanth wrote:Oh yea, we did get a SWORDSPLOSION!
It is awesome.
Seriously. A gun that shoots swords that explode into other swords that explode like grenades.
Amazing.
See I found it innaccurate and annoying to fire. Though awesome in concept. And I'm pretty sure mine shoots axes...
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Decided to reinstall it to play the new DLC. First thought,"ooh purdy and what awfully cheery music". Second though,"aww man. Hey wait isn't that the music from Winterfell? Aww...". =)
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Post by: Rented Tritium
Finished the new DLC. I really enjoyed it and the very last bit was not at all what I was expecting in the most delightful way.
I definitely agree that it's smart to have a nice high-dps non elemental gun for this one because of all the skeletons. The best way to deal with a lot of skeletons is a plain old bullet hose.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
A high damage one shot shotgun got me through the entire DLC, barring needing to chuck the odd vortex grenade to pull archers of their perches.
The ending boss fights seemed to be a tad easy to me, but perhaps they're harder on Ultimate Vault Hunter mode or whatever its called. It was nice to get the sun and rainbows back at the end though. ...I was getting rather fed up of the drearyness, and that loss of saturation actually looked rather nice on the engine.
...Hmn, now to go kill that moon base. Its been awfully up itself lately. =P
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Post by: Kanluwen
"Ultimate Vault Hunter" is basically a mode which requires you to play with a group, no ifs ands or buts. You NEED a group or an incredibly broken set of gear/spec to succeed, no matter the character.
"True Vault Hunter" is far more balanced when compared to UVH, but still adds a bit of a challenge.
Speaking from my experience as Axton in Tiny Tina's DLC:
A high damage bullet hose is a Very Good Thing as the enemies like to swarm.
The Swordsplosion is also amazing for the DLC.
The Legendary grenade mods from Tiny Tina(Fire Storm and Chain Lightning) are godlike when you acquire them.
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Post by: Super Ready
Meh... I found Chain Lightning to be kinda lacklustre, but then I am carting a couple of high-level purple grenade mods around.
Its biggest problem is that you need a direct shot for it to take effect - that's what sniper rifles are for. Grenades are at their most useful getting at targets you can't shoot straight to.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Are you talking about the Legendary, "Chain Lightning" or the Blue "Lightning Bolt"?
In any case, you do not need a direct hit.
Try throwing it at a wall near an enemy sometime and see what happens.
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Post by: Super Ready
Oooh, mine's only the blue one which I'm guessing is the Bolt then. ...lend me?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Chain Lightning is--in a word--"ridumbulous".
It arcs from target to target to target to target and can go through walls/floors/ceilings.
It is hilariously fun.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I don't suppose you want to dupe a copy for me Kan? My level 52 Axton likes shiny orange toys.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I do not condone/engage in duping, so...no. 
If you are on the 360 though, I'll farm one up for ya.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I can farm one...I was just hoping to get a freebie. Lol. Do you wanna do a multiplayer sometime? Aldarionn might join, if we asked, and I have another I can wrangle for UVM.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I actually have been playing primarily with a buddy of mine, but if you want to join with a character aside from Axton I can get you in with us.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Axton is actually the only character I have who can handle UVM... would it be so bad to have two of them running around? Or do you BOTH already have him? Lol. I suppose Maya could join, but she's only 47 or so. She'd be a liability to start.
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Post by: Kanluwen
We have an Assassin and Axton so far.
Our goal is to do it in such a way that we do not have duplicate characters to prevent arguments over loot. It has worked great for Normal and True Vault Hunter.
In regards to getting you from 47? That's easy. You can tag along with me on my Ranger class mod farming runs around Tiny Tina's DLC.
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Post by: timetowaste85
That works for me. Got a couple hours tomorrow night? I just have to pick my friend up at the train station around midnight. You're on the east coast too, right?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Sure, I think I can manage it tomorrow night.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Awesome, send me a friend-add on Xbox. Same SN as here. Once I leave for the train station though, I'll have to be done for the night. What time works for you?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Most of the day.
Friend request sent. Gamertag is an interesting one, I think you'll find...
I am actually about to do a few chest runs right now if you're game.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Works for me. My day is fully open tomorrow til midnight.
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Post by: CloudRider
How's about complain about a game AFTER YOU'VE PLAYED FOR MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
Jus' sayin
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
^^ You're a little late to the party mate
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Post by: Deathklaat
i have been playing solo with Krieg and i really havent had too many issues playing through all 3 game modes.
the first playthough was a bit annoying as i needed levels for skills to have a build that worked.
true vault hunter mode was actually a breeze and the only real problem areas i had were badass constructors and super badass loaders, most bosses were easily dispatched in 30 seconds or less.
so far in ultimate i have not had any problems, even in places where i thought i would have trouble things have been cake so far.
maybe it is my build but it is definately not my gear as i have not farmed for any really decent gear as i do not see a point untill level 61.
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Post by: Super Ready
Well, we finally picked up Chain Lightning tonight - and yeah, I stand corrected. That thing is the COMPLETE awesomesauce. Magic Missile is pretty damned useful, too.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
How does Krieg play? I've been considering starting out a new game as him (having only played for a significant time as Axton). The idea of just running at things and hitting them seems like it'd fit my playstyle (I tend to run at things and shoot them due to having a woeful accuracy half the time...because of said running). However I've found that the melee system can be a bit lacking at times (ie trying to hit that damn villager with the second note in Dragon Keep), so I'm unsure how that would hold up (though I'm sure it'd be easier considering that enemies aren't typically running away from you...).
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Wyrmalla wrote:How does Krieg play? I've been considering starting out a new game as him (having only played for a significant time as Axton). The idea of just running at things and hitting them seems like it'd fit my playstyle (I tend to run at things and shoot them due to having a woeful accuracy half the time...because of said running). However I've found that the melee system can be a bit lacking at times (ie trying to hit that damn villager with the second note in Dragon Keep), so I'm unsure how that would hold up (though I'm sure it'd be easier considering that enemies aren't typically running away from you...).
With Krieg you really need a partner as you'll find yourself going down fairly frequently (Although this could just be me playing badly)
But going down isn't so much a problem with Krieg, if you can get back up that is, as taking any damage reduces the cooldown of your action skill.
Krieg also doesn't just rely solely on his action skill, many skills you put points into can boost his action skill and his regular gun play.
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Post by: Rented Tritium
You can do Solo Krieg, but yes, you need solid fundamentals.
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Post by: Deathklaat
I really don't find Krieg to be a problem and I play solo, this is my first character above 25 so I am really green at this game.
Krieg really depends on your build, knowing when to use your ability and knowing which targets to go for first.
Normally I run in with a shotgun and empty it as I go towards the hardest mob, use my ability at 33% and destroy the hardest mob and clean up house.
if I get low on life or go into fight for your life I go after a weak mob to bring me back with my ability ready to use and it starts over again.
it is not uncommon for me to run through an area using 3-5 abilities to clear the whole mob spawn.
bosses are a bit trickier but as long as you keep weak mobs up to gain full hp or save you from fight for your life you are fine.
Krieg when done right is a BEAST. it was not uncommon for me to do an entire area's missions with every mob and boss having a skull next to their name. Super badass mobs usually died in 3-4 hits with my special.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Two new characters coming in season pass 2, as part of season pass 2.
Sarah(recognize her name, anyone? ) and Wu (male Siren WUT?!)
The Moon Base is going to include some new weapon types(Frost weapons!) like Hyperion Assault Rifles and Rocket Launchers along with Maliwan Shotguns.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Isn't Sarah the lesbian doctor who refused to test Eridium on the guy in the audiologs because of his husband's condition? I'm pretty sure that's her. Interesting to have a Doctor join the team...insane amounts of healing'Eridium improvements to teammates? Imagine the possibilities...Thanks Kan!! Sorry I couldn't join you guys yesterday, if you got on-my Internet privileges were declined, as I feared. Also, Wu-hoo ( ) to the rest of it!!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Sarah is Axton's wife. 
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Post by: timetowaste85
Never mind, I just googled who Sarah is. Wow. That's...mean? Poor, poor Soldier-Boy...
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Gah! Beat me to fixing it!!
Is it wrong I was hoping for the lesbian doctor? Not just for the potential romance options with Moxxi (drool), but a doctor going heal-happy on teammates would be the greatest 4-player addition of all time.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Well, considering that Sarah is going to be bringing a drone to the field rather than a turret you might still be seeing a defensively oriented character.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Where did you get this info? I can't even find it on the gearbox forums or Google. Or is this a question to which I already know the answer from us playing Friday that you can't answer in public...
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Post by: Kanluwen
It was on the Gearbox forums earlier today.
I'll try to find it again.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Yeah, I can't find it anywhere-looked on Gearbox first...nothing
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Post by: Kanluwen
Bear in mind this was not a thread, but rather a Gearbox dev posting it in a thread about Axton.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Ugh. Went looking and had no luck. I guess I'll have to beg you to send me a link or wait until it's announced.
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Post by: Ouze
I didn't even know there was going to be a season 2 - exciting.
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Post by: timetowaste85
So if Kan's information is correct, and the dev wasn't trolling the thread, our character count will go up to 8, and we'll be up to 5 dlc levels, plus whatever else they throw.
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Post by: Kanluwen
3 DLC packages, the size of Captain Scarlett's Booty.
Moonbase is DLC package #1 and releases at the end of July, DLC package 2 in August, DLC package 3 in September.
Characters are included this time.
What is interesting is that this jibes with an earlier rumor that we would see two of the "new characters for Borderlands 3" introduced before the next-gen consoles hit.
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Post by: purplefood
This would mean that a total of... 5 of the galaxy's 6 Sirens are present on Pandora in under a decade...
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Post by: Kanluwen
purplefood wrote:
This would mean that a total of... 5 of the galaxy's 6 Sirens are present on Pandora in under a decade...
Four.
Lilith
Maya
and now
Wu
I am personally speculating that Wu is a 'recent arrival' or that he might be present in the second DLC package, which is reputed to be a Vault on another world.
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Post by: purplefood
And the Commandant... er Steele?
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Post by: kirsanth
Commandant Steele as well.
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Kanluwen. . .Damnit man - I was hoping to be productive today.
That's now shot, as I need to look up your rumors.
^^
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Post by: Rented Tritium
I'm getting absolutely nothing with google fu on this. It sounds pretty far fetched for something so big to get revealed in a random thread and not in a panel.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Bear in mind that they originally revealed "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" as a poster strategically placed in a photo of a staff member passed out.
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Post by: Super Ready
I take it that by "recent arrival", Kanluwen means that what with(SPOILERSPOILER)'s passing on, there's a gap for a new Siren. Seeing how as there's only 6 *at one time*.
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Post by: purplefood
Well
Seeing as Steele died and spoiler also died there are only 3 definite live Sirens including the new guy.
I just found it kinda odd that 5 of the galaxies 6 Sirens were on Pandora in less than a decade.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Pandora, where the Galaxy's biggest weapon was held...
...Probably.
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Post by: Super Ready
purplefood wrote:Well
Seeing as Steele died and spoiler also died there are only 3 definite live Sirens including the new guy.
I just found it kinda odd that 5 of the galaxies 6 Sirens were on Pandora in less than a decade.
Not *so* strange when you consider that Maya only came after hearing about other Sirens already, and *SPOILER* was dragged along because of Eridium... which may well have something to do with the new guy turning up.
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Post by: Rented Tritium
 Kanluwen wrote:Bear in mind that they originally revealed "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" as a poster strategically placed in a photo of a staff member passed out.
Yeah, but this is "new characters, here is who they are, we are doing 4 more DLC packages", which is a lot more of a reveal than "this is the name of the next dlc"
Now, the idea of another 4 DLC packs? Yeah that's perfectly likely. But getting a reveal with this level of specificity doesn't seem real.
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Post by: Kanluwen
It was more than "this is the name of the next DLC" that got revealed though.
It was a HUGE poster of Roland as a knight with Ellie wearing the 'slave Leia' costume and Butt Stallion in the background.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
On a different note the slagga plus the blockhead=beast mode
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Post by: kirsanth
Tomorrow, DLC announcement!
Anytime. . .anyone want to trade a Kawaii Killer for for a 61 Bee(+140k), 61 Sawbar, or . . .(we have lots of loot) on ps3?
^^
Farming that bug is taking ages.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Hehehe.
Oh DLC announcements.
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Post by: kirsanth
Found Vermi again.
Nothing.
Not sure there was even a drop outside of money. . .I think the pod dropped that eridium.
BAH!
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Post by: Kanluwen
New Borderlands 2 DLC, Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2 and a new level cap of 72 is coming this fall, Gearbox announced at its PAX Australia panel today.
The Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2 DLC will be released this fall for $5.00. It includes 11 more levels and Digistruct Peak Challenge, which is a new map, loot and the "ability to 'over level' your game for extra challenges." The DLC will not be part of the Season Pass.
DLC Headhunter Pack:T.K. Baha's Bloody Harvest is coming this fall. The Headhunter Pack: T.K. Baha's Bloody Harvest DLC includes a new mission and a themed boss fight featuring T.K. Baha — the character was in Borderlands 1 DLC The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned — and a boss fight with Jacques O'Lantern, a Giant pumpkin boss. If players beat the boss, they will be awarded new character customizations.
Pricing for the DLC will be announced later on and it will not be inclusive to the Season Pass. The company also announced that additional Headhunter Packs are slated to release at a later date.
Extra ammo capacity, backpack, bank slots and more customizations for Borderlands 2 characters will be coming later this year as a free update. Extra heads Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep is coming "soonsih." Also shown during the Gearbox panel, a new short film for Krieg the Psycho was teased and stars Tiny Tina and Brick as they outsmart Hyperion captivity.
The company also announced that the Gearbox Community Day will be held worldwide on Sept. 14 and will be livestreamed. Interested parties can check out event details on the official website.
PAX Australia attendees at the Gearbox panel were given DLC code for new heads and skins which will be released to all gamers on the Gearbox Community Day. PAX Australia attendees were given Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2: Digistruct Peak Challenge for free. SHiFT codes for extra heads Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep were also distributed.
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Post by: kirsanth
Less time aiming for a 61 Infinity then!
Kawaii Killer though. . .damn bug.
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Post by: Kanluwen
"Digistruct Peak" is apparently Underdome 2.0 but where you get to pick and choose bosses to spawn and fight.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
The Lady fist is the most beast unique pistol i have come across as the 400% extra critical damage it does is epic and when tied with the bee shield the amplify damage makes it a boss killer. (I can kill the warrior in less than 2 minutes with it!)
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Mr Torgue is so funny.
"NEW MISSION!...I want you to blow up THE OCEAN!"
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Post by: gunslingerpro
Undoubtedly. I'd love to have him in the Moon Base raid.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Well according to a quote made by him (in mr torgues campaign of carnage) he says that he is broadcasting to you from his 'space truck' that is in orbit around pandora...so you may see it/it crashes into the moonbase because thats badass/you pilot and fire rockets from the space truck (whilst mr torgue plays a guitar solo) at the moonbase because thats even more badass.
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Post by: timetowaste85
There is nothing about that that sounds bad. Lol
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Post by: Super Ready
orkdestroyer1 wrote:Well according to a quote made by him (in mr torgues campaign of carnage) he says that he is broadcasting to you from his 'space truck' that is in orbit around pandora...so you may see it/it crashes into the moonbase because thats badass/you pilot and fire rockets from the space truck (whilst mr torgue plays a guitar solo) at the moonbase because thats even more badass.
This post, right here, is all the convincing anyone should ever need to pick up and play.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
MMORPGFPS is the funniest mission ever because you get TOLD to T-bag XXDATVAULTHUNTRXX's corpse and [720noscope]Headshotz calls you a hacker.
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
How good is the GUB legendary weapon?
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Post by: Super Ready
Damn good - but still not a patch on the ol' Infinity/Bee combo. 
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
I have a slight problem...
I am in UVHM but it is not levelling me up.
Can anybody help me with this problem?
(also UVHM pack:2 has been released)
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Post by: Super Ready
What level are you at the moment? Also, have you actually bought and applied the DLC? The extra levels are still part of the pack and aren't free, or automatically applied (although over Steam they ARE I believe automatically *downloaded*).
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Also if anyone has a lvl 50 nukem to dupe on PS3 i will dupe you a lvl 50 norfleet.
Just PM me on here first to arrange a time and date
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Post by: kirsanth
Most of our gear is more towards 61, but we are aiming for 72 if anyone wants to join on PS3.
I have a Siren that can seems to be able to solo for some levels along with my lady playing Psycho or Gunzerker, if anyone cares.. (or has loot you think we can use.)
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Even though I dont have a LVL 61 character...have you tried the the pyro pete's bar powerlevelling method?
(where you do bar room blitz over and over and use the norfleet)
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Post by: orkdestroyer1
Is the tresspasser sniper rifle (the one that by-passes shields) good for killing pyropete the invincible?
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