Some of you may notice the title change. Well... After reading the iron warriors omnibus(aga in) I decided to base my army around the iron warriors books. Some of you may have seen my warsmith Honsou conversion before. He will be the basis for the rest of the army, but I will also be attempting other characters from the book. Hopefully I will do them justice. Please take the time to view the whole thread and leave comments, even if its just to say you hate my army/ painting style.


Ok, so I really struggle painting tanks, my land raider still isn't finished after 3 months and my bl rhino still needs work. Somehow I just can't finish one tank before buying and starting another.
Ah well here's my latest. Any tips or criticism extremely welcome.
Please bear in mind the legion and company markings aren't finished, nor is any of the decidedly dodgy freehand.

I like it overall, but I think there are a few things that could be improved upon. I think it needs a little bit more black on some of the silver parts, like the recessed area on the rear above the tracks. The tracks look a little too underwhelming. If you paint black, drybrush silver and use some sort of dark brown wash it might help. The hazard stripes above the siege shield on the front look to be a little too much as well, they take away from how awesome of a job you did on the shield itself, and how great the gun mount hazards look. I think painting the smokestacks a different color like brass, copper or something like that and using a soot effect it would stand out.
Sorry if that is too harsh, just trying to pass down some stuff I do with my tanks, because I have the same syndrome as you. I have one painted vindicator that I haven't finished all the way and two base coated vindies that have been based for about 8 months now.
Keep up the good work, and sorry if that was too harsh.

I just looked at some of your work, and I love the land raider!!!

cheers dude, and nah its not harsh at all. constructive criticism is what drives us all to improve. i get what you mean about the tracks and exhausts and will rectify these issues, Im still in the fairly early stages, so it should be fairly simple.

looks great! only thing I dislike is the writing on the back ramp.
beyond that maybe a black-brown wash on the bulldozer arms.. beyond that… look forward to seeing more! 'Iron within! Iron without'

Just a quick update, I still haven't started the tracks, but the dozer blade is nearly finished now and I've got rid of some of the hazard stripes.

I agree with the previous comments, and I think the plow looks a lot better now that you painted over the "IV" and "IX" with the black/yellow stripes.

You should drill out the exhaust pipes and remove the mold lines from them, then you could use black pigment to spread a bit of soot on them, that would look sweet.

This kind of work makes me want to get a tank for myself, too bad I have too many minis awaiting paint still

Cheers dude. I will be doing something with the exhausts although I'm not quite sure what that will be yet.

Made a fair amount of progress today, got most of the work done on my vindicator, my first biker up to tabletop standard and my csm aspiring champion just needs basing and a weapon.
Please let me know what you think, especially if you have suggestions for improvement.

Sorted my aspiring champions weapon today. I wanted to give him a combi plasma gun but didn't have one. So I built one from a storm Bolter and a plasma pistol.

you do some excellent work man! very clean. i like the pieces here very much. especially the biker champ! and your weathering effect is GREAT.

Great stuff - Nice to see the IW getting the love!

Ok, C&C - Vindi looks way better now you have removed the writing - its tough to get right (and why I have avoided it so far)! If you decide give it another shot I recommend figuring out the spacing first to make sure its centralised and even (Unless its graffiti).

I love the weathering, the metal parts have an aged, heated look (like an engine has been running hotly underneath), and the dozer blades are nice and dirty.

For the rear door of the Vindi (you mention youre not sure what to do there) - its perfectly fine to leave it blank, but if you think its a little bare, try freehanding a chaos star.

Personally I've used a simple star
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/365542-First%20Try%2C%20Weathered.html

And I've tried more complex ones (using the legendary Dave Taylor method):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/531253-Chaos%20Star%2C%20Hazard%20Stripes%2C%20Iron%20Warriors%2C%20Weathering%20Powders%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.html

I found these 'break up' large flat areas, without being too difficult to do neatly.

The rest of your models are great too - again, the weathering ties these models together.

Im doing some IW myself (found your stuff whilst hunting for ideas ) - here's the link to my Plog if youre interested (warning, I work slowly):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/244402.page#6007402

Cheers

Think I've decided what to do on the back hatch but need a second opinion. The eye needs tidying up a bit, I know, but as an idea I'd like to know what people think

definitely dig it better than the wording on the back!

Cheers dude. There's still a way to go but I've chucked some taiyma flat clear on it today. Just to seal the inks. It's fogged in a few places, but nothing I can't fix.

The eye is a vast improvement

your colors are brilliant, though, i regret to say your ability to keep lines regular and straight demands attention

I'm deeply jealous of your colors, mine don't look as fancy as yours

 poda_t wrote:
your colors are brilliant, though, i regret to say your ability to keep lines regular and straight demands attention

I'm deeply jealous of your colors, mine don't look as fancy as yours

Unfortunately I have to agree with you about keeping my lines straight, I'm working on it though. As for the colours, they're just standard gw paints with sepia and/or black ink over the top.

may i suggest starting with the middle-most line/chevron? I find that starting from one edge and moving on over causes a greater degree of deviation than if you start from middle and work to the edges.

That's pretty much what I do. I'm just useless at keeping the lines straight and even. Ah well. I can live with it for now. Once I master it I'll repaint them all.

Not a lot of progress today.
Started on my other bikers but I wasn't really "feeling it" with the bikes so I concentrated on the riders.

Disappointingly slow progress again today, mainly due to real life getting in the way. I managed to get some work done on the bikes, and started my plasma gunner. Roll on weekend so I can get some real work done

Scrap those doors, buy the forgeworld ones instead, you won't regret it. No offense, but your freehand < embossed sculpts

EDIT: Leave the door with the ladder on. That one looks great. And even better, if you just replace that one door, then you still have 2 pieces left over for a whole other rhino!

Also the eye on the back... I'd change that, too. If I were you, I'd just change it to more hazard stripes, and put a cadaver in it for detail.

Looks like its all coming along great! My freehand is horrible I couldn't draw to save my life, but I tuning with a little more practice you're going to be doing some amazing things! Keep it up man, practice makes perfect!

dissapointgly slow progress? what, you had to strip a mini instead?

Quarterdime wrote:Scrap those doors, buy the forgeworld ones instead, you won't regret it. No offense, but your freehand < embossed sculpts

EDIT: Leave the door with the ladder on. That one looks great. And even better, if you just replace that one door, then you still have 2 pieces left over for a whole other rhino!
Also the eye on the back... I'd change that, too. If I were you, I'd just change it to more hazard stripes, and put a cadaver in it for detail.

No offence taken and I get your point about the fw doors, I used them on the black legion rhino I did about a year ago.
Unfortunately the doors aren't removable, they're a part of the side armour panels. You did give me an idea though

Bobaram wrote:Looks like its all coming along great! My freehand is horrible I couldn't draw to save my life, but I tuning with a little more practice you're going to be doing some amazing things! Keep it up man, practice makes perfect!

Cheers dude, it's the first time I've tried free handing anything more than a simple pattern and I'm not entirely happy with it, however I can live with it until my skills improve.

poda_t wrote:dissapointgly slow progress? what, you had to strip a mini instead?

Lol. Nah, I just didn't get as much done as I would have liked.

Got my bikers based up now, but that's pretty much all I got done. I wasn't even going to post tonight until I had a fortunate accident.
I spilled some superglue onto my palette and it ran into a pool of gold ink causing some kind of reaction.
The result of this reaction is the cloak on my plasma gunner. Somehow the glue fused the metallic pigments together and formed a flexible "skin" of pigment which I painted blue and stuck to the backpack.

Slightly happier with my progress today. I managed to get the rest of my csm squad basecoated and the first stage of the shading done.
I also managed to finish my plasma gunner. Complete with my first attempt at Osl. Though I'm not really happy with it.

With a bit of luck I can have this squad finished tomorrow, then I can move on to finishing off my previous squad.

You seem to be ploughing through a lot, not as slow progress as some

I love the cape on the plasma gunner, the fact that it was an accident is probably the coolest thing as it looks great.

Cheers dude. I'm pretty happy about it myself. Hopefully I can recreate it again.

As for my progress, I just wish I had time to get more done.
Sorted my bases today, just final dry brushing to do on the last 5 before I glue the troops on

Well. Got the weapons done and sorted out bases today. Plus added the squads "spot colour". I can't clear coat them as its raining outside.
However I'd say they're tabletop standard now, and ready for gaming. I just need to seal them and add final highlights.
As ever any c&c welcome.

Uh... What's wrong with people? These are higher than tabletop standard. Tabletop standard is the bare minimum to get them onto the table (three colors of paint, excluding primer). These are a fair deal better than tabletop standard.

Thanks dude and much respect to you and your wonderful moustache. I still think my painting is of a tabletop standard though, lets face it I'm not exactly golden demon standard. Lol.
I just try to paint to the highest standard I can achieve, then I call it tabletop standard.
Wow. I think I just broke the world record for using the word " standard "in a post,

Due to poor weather I've been unable to seal my marines yet again.
So I decided to start work on my sorcerer, he started out as the plasma cannon marine from the DV box set.
I cut off his head and replaced it with the cultist leaders from the same set. Then added the high collar, gave him new arms and a weapon made from two marauder swords.
He's still a bit rough ATM but I'm fairly pleased so far.
C&c always welcome.

tomcat31 wrote:
Thanks dude and much respect to you and your wonderful moustache. I still think my painting is of a tabletop standard though, lets face it I'm not exactly golden demon standard. Lol.
I just try to paint to the highest standard I can achieve, then I call it tabletop standard.
Wow. I think I just broke the world record for using the word " standard "in a post,

Easily tabletop standard or above. The freehand's not bad, I like the colors and those are some pretty Boss bases. So take the constructive criticism, ignore the hate and keep at it.

Well. It's time for my other iron warriors squad to receive some attention, I painted these about a year ago and by my current standards they're looking a bit poor.
The squad contains a mixture of, csm battleforce parts, AOBR tac squad, iron warriors upgrade kit, and forgeworld mk3 armour.
It also features some of my first conversion attempts, which will be re-worked.


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tomcat31 wrote:
Thanks dude and much respect to you and your wonderful moustache. I still think my painting is of a tabletop standard though, lets face it I'm not exactly golden demon standard. Lol.
I just try to paint to the highest standard I can achieve, then I call it tabletop standard.
Wow. I think I just broke the world record for using the word " standard "in a post,

Easily tabletop standard or above. The freehand's not bad, I like the colors and those are some pretty Boss bases. So take the constructive criticism, ignore the hate and keep at it.

Thanks dude. Although I wasn't aware of any hate, and I actually welcome constructive criticism. As I've said before, it's what drives me to improve. Please keep it coming, after all its a lot easier to be "honest" about someone else's work than your own.

Coming along great bro! Practice makes perfect and you're only getting better and better with each update!

Thanks Bobaram. I agree whole heartedly about practice making perfect
Started the re-work today, the guy at the back had a massive arm from an Ork nob which I figured could be explained as a mutation.
I then read that the iron warriors replace mutated limbs with bionics, so the arm had to go. Unfortunately I had no bionic arms to replace it with. Cue some fiddly cutting and gluing( as well as a lot of swearing)

I wasn't talking about anyone in the thread just saying in general ignore any hate.

Ah, fair enough. I got a bit confused there. Lol.

Love your work. I love how the CSM look tainted. Very nice. Once you're all done, you've gotta take a full army pic.

Thanks dude, and I will. As I'm pretty deep into the wip stuff ATM I'll try to post a " story so far" pic tomorrow. I have a some stuff that hasn't made an appearance yet.

As promised yesterday......
The story so far. Two csm squads ( left hand squad in the process of being re worked), one terminator squad, hellbrute, biker squad, land raider and vindicator.

Also included in a separate pic as he is currently not in my possession. The man himself....
Warsmith honsou.

Very nice. I can see the corruption from chaos!

Looks sweet man, I'd love to go up against them!

To be honest dude I'm kinda desperate for game time at the moment.
Picked up another tac squad today, plus the new vanguard veteran set, mainly for the jump packs. I don't think the current raptor kit fits the iron warriors look so I'm going to convert my own.

For taping the lines out, Hazard lines on a figure is not something I have done personally, but I have used tape and an airbrush on a lot of canvases.
For even spacing of the lines, lay tape over the whole thing, and the pull up alternate strips. This way you get a pretty solid guide line to keep the line widths equal all long.
Another tip (i dunno what kind of tape youve used) is to look for what is known as 'fineline' tape. Its used in the custom automotive paint industry, can be curved if need be. its kind of plasticy, low tack. Purposed designed for painters. Regular cheap masking tape can be used well, but its working against you rather than with you.

Erm. I'm not using any masking dude. I'm painting everything by hand, no airbrush, no masking, just my own brush control.
Yep, I know it's not perfect but its just my style. I am aware of fineline tape as I'm a fully qualified automotive custom painter, I just prefer to doit all by hand. Stupid I know but I'm pretty stubborn. Lol.

Just a quick sneak peek at the next character from the iron warriors books. Formerly of the raven guard chapter. Ardaric vaanes.

Just a quick update to show I haven't quit yet. Lol. The re-work on my second csm squad continues, plus I have my 5 man raptor squad waiting for paint, plus my "chosen" awaiting some attention.
The stripes on the lascannon marine need sorting out but it'll have to wait until the lacquer is properly dried. Also I need to finish the new backpacks for two of them

Absolutely brilliant work!
I like to think of my self as a decent painter but yours make mine look like a 12 year old painted them lol.

Cheers dude, although I looked at some of your work and its very impressive. If I'm honest I'm not doing anything that any decent painter couldn't do

tomcat31 wrote:
Cheers dude, although I looked at some of your work and its very impressive. If I'm honest I'm not doing anything that any decent painter couldn't do

Maybe, but you captured the feel of chaos perfectly. Nice work!

Wow. High praise indeed.
Well I've not really done much this week as I've been working, I have been plodding along slowly though. Squad two now has 4 completed marines, including one with a heavy chainsword and custom made bionic arm. Plus another 5 csm awaiting weapons, backpacks or basing. No10 is awaiting parts as I ordered the iron hands upgrade pack for the bionic legs.
I am also awaiting delivery of their transport, a rhino, plus fw extra armour kit and doors. Feeling a bit guilty over spending £50+ on a rhino, but I'm hoping it'll look cool. Will post pics once its arrived and assembled.

As promised, pics of the insanely overpriced rhino. I'm actually looking forward to painting this, but might wait until my infantry are done.

Managed to get some paint on the rhino today, it's still very much wip but hopefully you can see where I'm trying to go.

Well im still going. Lol. Not much progress this week due to work commitments. However work on the rhino continues

AGH, the more I see of your army the more it makes me want to start pounding out my marine force instead of Warmachine and IG. IT's looking great man!

cheers dude. still wish i had more time to spend painting though

Cool stuff here.

hey dude, you might not need this, (insanely expensive rhino for the win) but using regular masking tape, you can mark out line on vehicles quite well.
Take the tape and take some of the tackyness off it (stick it to the desk a couple of times) and apply to model and run a watered down varnish along the edge of the tape. It forms a good seal against paint being applied by brush, but should peel easily and without damaging the underlayer. Just move onto each stripe as and when.

but iron warriors look epic, especially Honsu. That's a really nice conversion. Now, can i justify warning stripes on space puppies??

Edit to include the question i orginally wanted to ask, how did you buff our your vindi, in particular the base of the exhaust stacks? was it a bit, or did you craft them?

shiny space wrote:
hey dude, you might not need this, (insanely expensive rhino for the win) but using regular masking tape, you can mark out line on vehicles quite well.
Take the tape and take some of the tackyness off it (stick it to the desk a couple of times) and apply to model and run a watered down varnish along the edge of the tape. It forms a good seal against paint being applied by brush, but should peel easily and without damaging the underlayer. Just move onto each stripe as and when.

but iron warriors look epic, especially Honsu. That's a really nice conversion. Now, can i justify warning stripes on space puppies??

Edit to include the question i orginally wanted to ask, how did you buff our your vindi, in particular the base of the exhaust stacks? was it a bit, or did you craft them?

Thanks for the tip dude, but as ive said before. im stubborn. lol. i will master the art of freehanding the stripes or die trying. its just the way i do things, yep i have hazard stripe ocp. please dont think me arrogant, i just cant help doing things the hard way.

I'm really digging on both your infantry and vehicle models, they look great. Nice conversion work and the paint jobs really match the chapter. I would love to meet this army on the tabletop with my Death Guard or Emperor's Children.

tomcat31 wrote:

shiny space wrote:
hey dude, you might not need this, (insanely expensive rhino for the win) but using regular masking tape, you can mark out line on vehicles quite well.
Take the tape and take some of the tackyness off it (stick it to the desk a couple of times) and apply to model and run a watered down varnish along the edge of the tape. It forms a good seal against paint being applied by brush, but should peel easily and without damaging the underlayer. Just move onto each stripe as and when.

but iron warriors look epic, especially Honsu. That's a really nice conversion. Now, can i justify warning stripes on space puppies??

Edit to include the question i orginally wanted to ask, how did you buff our your vindi, in particular the base of the exhaust stacks? was it a bit, or did you craft them?

Thanks for the tip dude, but as ive said before. im stubborn. lol. i will master the art of freehanding the stripes or die trying. its just the way i do things, yep i have hazard stripe ocp. please dont think me arrogant, i just cant help doing things the hard way.

Fair enough mate, I don't think I'd have your patience ahaha.

Lol. thanks. i know im a bit late answering your question about the vindicator, but better late than never hey.
its just the standard side armour piece that comes with the kit. i magnetised them so they can be removed to count as hull point markers, or transferred to another vehicle if neccessary

Started my custom warpsmith today. Still have a huge amount of work to do, but all the main components are there.

Very, very nice work I am really liking the Warpsmith

Almost forgot. I also got two of my "chosen" pretty much sorted now just some shading and touch ups left. ardaric vaanes is also getting there.
I'm off work next week so hopefully i can get most of my unpainted stuff sorted.

That warpsmith needs a bionic eye on the other side as well, that way you can call him Doc Oc.

Lol. Actually I'm planning a version for my stepsons army.
Doktor orktopus.

Hellz Yea!

Well, my second squad is now ready for the table, and my chosen are slowly coming along.
Ardaric vaanes and my fw rhino are nearing completion too. If there's anything anyone would like to see closer up, or if anyone has any comments or suggestions please let me know

tomcat31 wrote:
Well, my second squad is now ready for the table, and my chosen are slowly coming along.
Ardaric vaanes and my fw rhino are nearing completion too.

This image is pretty bad, but I show it for inspiration. It was the iron warriors books that encouraged me to build an iron warriors army.
it's a poor grainy pic, but, i think you'll see the general idea. I'm only showing these because I think you might benefit from the idea.

Cheers dude, huge respect to your skills. Sorry if the pics didn't show straight away, but I have to upload them one at a time for some reason.
As for my inspiration. Well that's something we have in common. Lol. Once I'd built honsou it just made perfect sense to build an army around him. If anyone has any suggestions for building slaaneshi blade dancers or loxatl, please let me know as I really do want to recreate the army from the books.

are cold ones too big for loxatl? not familiar with the fantasy line to be honest.... otherwise kroot with some creative use of GS?

lizardmen?

that's not a bad idea, I was thinking of using lizardman skinks, as they seem to match the drawings I've seen

Finally got my "chosen" squad finished except for 3 of the bases. A lack of glue means they'll have to wait until I can pick up more on Sunday.( more important things to do tomorrow.)

I saw the imperial lighting unit that's been repurposed as a bomb or grenade of some type. To that all I have to say is the following:
yoink.

I'm starting to wonder if i need to get a bigger bag and add another unit of iron warriors. It's a silly question given that I have a footsloggers iron warrior army.

moving on, i have a question, want previous edition metal CSM helmets? Technically they're "current" because the design fits right in, but some of the tusks, horns and other pointies make it hard for me to positively ID what kits they come from. I don't know that I can use them because I've got a lot of CSM as it is, and a lot of marines, and I really, really, don't want to buy more stuff for the iron warriors....

I'm definitely interested dude. Although I'm not sure if shipping from Canada to the uk would be cost effective.
Oh and the object in my chosen champions hand is a melta bomb. It's from the vanguard veteran box.

Having pretty much finished my chosen, I have turned my attention to my raptors. 4 are nearly done and one is basecoated and shaded.
As usual, all comments and criticism greatly appreciated.

Managed to make some progress on my raptor and chosen squads. Even got them sealed in between rain showers.
Will post better pics later, once I can handle them.

Did some freehand on the back hatch of my rhino today. Before I put any more effort into it I'd like some opinions.
Do I keep/continue to work on the design, or do I paint over it and leave it blank/ add chevrons.

Loving your army there, especially that Rhino and Vaanes. Have you got any plans to build Grendel, The Newborn or maybe even Onyx to include with them?

Oh yes. They're all on my to do list. Along with m'kar, the possessed dreadnought and Notha etassay.

Sorry if I'm posting excessively tonight, but I really need help deciding the fate of my rhinos back end.(hmmm never thought I'd use that sentence. Lol.) done a bit more on the design, but I'm still unsure about it.
Also started work on a trophy to grace the front end

at first i was all like:
Wai is he excited?
but then I was all like: that's why.

Lmao. Took me a minute to get that one.

Slapped some paint on my converted warpsmith today. Despite him being a complete PITA to paint, I actually enjoyed the experience.
Still quite a bit to do on him, but at least I can field him while I wait for the parts I want.

My first attempt at building "the newborn", and also my first attempt at sculpting anything (the rear of his torso is mainly milliput).

Looking great man!

Cheers dude.
Now add a little paint and he looks like this.
I wanted to keep his armour dark like the pic, but I'm not happy with it. So I think I'm going to use the same colours as the rest of my iron warriors.

Personally in my opinion the gold outline around the Chaos Star on your Rhino's rear door makes it look a lot better but also a tad more ornate. Your Newborn looks very angry and about to hurt somebody so I'd say its a brilliant job you've done on him. Cant wait to see more.

Cheers dude. I'm thinking that the possessed dread needs to be tackled next. Also I have a desperate plea for help.
I've looked everywhere I can think of for images of "notha etassay " and slaaneshi blade dancers, only to draw a complete blank.
Unfortunately they make up a significant part of honsou's army, so leaving them out isn't an option.
Does anyone know of any images that could help me?

I'd love to see your work on the possessed dread as your work on the other parts of the Bloodborn have been awesome. With regards to Notha Etassay I've drawn a complete blank, google has nothing at all so I think its time I reread my Ultramarines and Iron Warrior Omnibuses and check the descriptions of them.

Tell me about it. Although I'm seriously considering ordering the finecast callidus assassin and converting that. Then using dark elves/dark eldar combinations for the blade dancers
Tbh it kind of makes my job a bit easier if there are no images. That way I'm not tied to a particular look

That is a very good point there actually, you could certainly make them your own. For the Bladedancers my first thought was Dark Elves/Dark Eldar Wyches or similar. Its kind of hard not too when they are described as Slaanesh worshipping Bladedancers. Just had a look at that Callidus Assassin and think you'll be on to another winner if you do decide to go down that route. I'm definitely going to be looking forwards to your next updates.

Ordered the assassin and some eldar/dark eldar bits last night. Hopefully they'll be here for weekend so I can crack on.

Well. My assassin arrived today. So I've begun work on notha etassay.
I started by removing the pistol. And rotating the wrist. I then removed the sword arm and the long pony tail thing as one piece.
Then came the tricky bit. I cut the hair away from the arm, repairing some of the detail as I went, then re attached it at a different angle.
Added a small plume to the head, and some modified elder swords. Hey presto, phase 1 complete.

Also started m'kar the thrice born. The Daemon prince in the possessed ultramarine dreadnought.
He's still very much wip, and only tacked together but it should give a rough idea of what I'm doing.

Wow and Wow for both of those mate. That Dread just looks so ridiculously awesome. Much better than the image I had in my head after reading the novels. Can't wait to see more updates on these two.

Ok so this guy isn't really a relevant part of my army, he's basically only for dark apotheosis rolls on the chaos boon table.
He's basecoated shaded and stage 1 of the layering is done. I'm pretty much using him for practice before tackling my possessed dread.
As ever all comments appreciated

Another awesome job so far mate, especially those eyes on that second picture. It makes it seem like he has a very piercing gaze that can see right through you, its brilliant. You have got to tell me the colour or colours that you used for them.

It's actually very easy dude. It's white scar with west design blue calligraphy ink over the top. I tend to use a lot of calligraphy and drawing inks instead of gw washes, they're cheaper and you get more per bottle.

Today I've been dividing my time between m'kar and the daemon prince. The dp now has a decent base, and most of the painting done. I'm just waiting for the rain to stop so I can seal him before the final highlighting.

With m'kar I've finished the build and started the painting, he's in pieces ATM so some imagination is required.

I'm not usually a big fan of deep dark reds as the main colour but it works brilliantly on your Daemon Prince. I feel like I'm running out of adjectives to describe the awesomeness of your work so far because M'kar looks like he's going to be another fantastic conversion for your Bloodborn as well. Can't wait to see more.

Thanks dude. Due to work commitments I haven't been able to get much done today. However I can offer up another sneak peek of m'kar. And a slightly better image of notha etassay as he currently stands. Plus a gratuitous group shot of my favorite characters so far.

Much better image of the Notha, what kind of paint scheme are you going to give her?

Erm. Him. Lol. I still need to de- feminize him a little. Although, breasts on a slaaneshii male would not be out of character.
In the books he is described as wearing a black leather bodysuit, so I'm going to go down that route. However I have an idea to slaanesh it up a bit. Maybe an " oil on water" kind of black?

That would be a good look, I'm loving the warpsmith by the way, I still want to see the Doc Oc version you said you were going to make for your son.

I'm afraid he's had to go on the back burner for a while. He'll be back though. I just need some killa kanz to finish him off.

Full progress report on m'kar. Blu tac really does make the world go round

That Dread looks bloody awesome mate. Between him and the others I will admit that I'm now officially jealous of your conversion skills.

Lol. Tbh dude I'm not doing anything you couldn't do. It's just trial and error really. Once I get an image of the finished model in my head It comes easily.
Will post update pics tomorrow once I've done some more detailing. Today has been mostly layering and shading.

Well, I'm at the stage where m'kar is ready to be glued properly. Sealing and highlighting are still nneeded. Sorry for the poor images but im currently stuck using my ipod

Very Come at me Bro! I like it.

Cheers dude. I'm not too sure about the blue. Loyalist colours aren't my strong point. Lol.

It's quite vivid, which is more than a normal Ultramarine according to the ways some people paint them. But he's a Demon! He's allowed to have altered the tone a bit for more awesomeness!

Well. My blue palette is fairly limited dude. I have macragge blue, which I can tint up or down, and a cobalt blue ink. That's pretty much it.

Like I said, works for me man!

Thanks dude. Now I just have to build up the detail.

M'kar is nearly finished now. Just clearcoating and some final highlights to go. Plus I started notha etassay by applying several coats of irridescent medium. Over which I will apply a black ink wash.
Will upload better images once my ipad is charged
Again, all c& c welcome

the blue looks like you should mess it up a little. I'm sure the SM inside didn't give up without a fight. Also , I imagined the daemon leaning forward and twisting the chassis a bit more. Might wana edge highlight the blue, btw.

Anyway, cool things here.

 Largeblastmarker wrote:
the blue looks like you should mess it up a little. I'm sure the SM inside didn't give up without a fight. Also , I imagined the daemon leaning forward and twisting the chassis a bit more. Might wana edge highlight the blue, btw.

Anyway, cool things here.

I think I'd prefer seeing the armor clean and crisp, but with a bettle-carapace sheen.

 poda_t wrote:

 Largeblastmarker wrote:
the blue looks like you should mess it up a little. I'm sure the SM inside didn't give up without a fight. Also , I imagined the daemon leaning forward and twisting the chassis a bit more. Might wana edge highlight the blue, btw.

Anyway, cool things here.

I think I'd prefer seeing the armor clean and crisp, but with a bettle-carapace sheen.

Oooh automotive pearl paints on a mini. Now that's a good idea. Has it been done before though?

Better images of m'kar and notha, as promised. Plus new parts for my warpsmith. Just need a cloak and tabard to complete him.

What color are you going to use on nothas weapons?

tomcat31 wrote:

 poda_t wrote:

 Largeblastmarker wrote:
the blue looks like you should mess it up a little. I'm sure the SM inside didn't give up without a fight. Also , I imagined the daemon leaning forward and twisting the chassis a bit more. Might wana edge highlight the blue, btw.

Anyway, cool things here.

I think I'd prefer seeing the armor clean and crisp, but with a bettle-carapace sheen.

Oooh automotive pearl paints on a mini. Now that's a good idea. Has it been done before though?

i guarantee you i've seen it around, just............. can't remember where. Or maybe it was just the effect that was achieved from the use and layering of certain paints and finishes

Bobaram wrote:What color are you going to use on nothas weapons?

I'm not sure yet dude. I'll have to have a look at some other slaaneshii weapons.

hmm, good concept on the DP dread idea.... I'll probably steal your idea for my own on my scrap dread and 2 hellbrutes

Feel free dude. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Lol

tomcat31 wrote:
Feel free dude. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Lol

AND THEN YOU SUE HIM!
SEND C&Ds!!!!

Lmao. How dare you insinuate I'd pull a GW on a fellow dakkanought. My lawyers will be in touch.

I'm not sure if it will show up in the images but I've sorted the base colour for notha etassay now. It's sort of a shimmery black/purple colour. Now for the details and weapons.

Well. It's been a while. Due to personal issues I've not been doing much lately, however I'm back now with a couple of bitz box specials and a rather contentious abaddon. Lol.
As abaddon is probably the most powerful character in the chaos codex I decided he needs to be included in my gaming army.
He won't be included in the display version though.

He looks sweet! Nice power effects!

Thanks dude. I'd be happy to share the recipe.
Lightning claw is ocaldo bright silver base with west design cobalt blue over it.
Sword is white scar with west designs cobalt blue and bright red. Blended towards the base to give a purple colour.

I shall have to write this down!

Lol. I'm sure any inks would do dude. Just find a local art store and experiment with what they have. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying gw's inferior products.

Fair enough, but I do love me some citadel paints, I was raised to paint improperly!

Lol. I do use the citadel paints. I just prefer inks to gws washes.

True, I prefer P3 set of inks, just has a better pigment concentration IMO.

Well. I've not been painting for a while, but I'm back at it now. Though I'm still pretty stuck with my conversions.
So... It's standard model time again. This time it's my new maulerfiend. Just a sneak peek though. Lol.

And the carapace.

Love the evil eye!

It's not actually meant to be an eye. It's the tip of the last chevron. It's just a happy coincidence that is looks that way.

Lol, looks great either way!

Nearly complete now. It's been slow progress due to real life rudely interrupting me.
Just the shoulder armour and magma cutters left to attach before I finish off the detailing

Here are some slightly better images of the maulerfiend. Just his base to finish now and he's ready for action

That is bloody exceptional, though I feel sorry for the poor mangled remains of the Ultramarines on the base. And is that a mangled Rhino door?

Wow thanks, and Yep. It's a leftover from another kit. Hopefully he'll be finished this week, along with my 3rd csm squad.
My next project? Either a defiler or starting work on my blade dancers. Oh and the adept cycerin mini I started months ago.

Having just finished the IW omnibus I've had similar ideas for building an army around Honsou et al. These guys are looking great. Keep it up mate I look forward to more.

Cheers dude, and if you're looking to build your own honsou, check out my previous thread on building him, it could possibly save you some of the grief I had. Lol.

Had a look and I like it. I have a few World Eaters characters to finish first but I will visit the Iron Warriors at some point in the future.

ah. fair play dude. I've seen some of your work and i must say. very impressed

Wow this army is fantastic!!

The Honsou and possessed dreadnought conversions in particular are amazing.

If this is table top standard (which it definately is not) then my own Iron Warrior army must be 'only play with the lights of so no one sees your minis' standard!

I have a few pics up here but need to get some more taken of my finished 1500pt army (in fact you commented on the thread about the lack of hazard stripes!).

To be honest, I am not a big fan of the hazard stripes on my models (and the one attempt I made on a rhino looked crap) so I probably won't do them again.

Some of my terminator squad have them but that is only because I bought them part painted from a guy who did it better than I could.

Why thank you RH, I'm not a fan of ott striping myself , but I forced myself to start painting them due to pressure from others. Lol
Anyway, I suppose it's about time I posted some pics of my third squad. Still wip of course, but they're getting there.

Got a new camera for christmas so thought i'd have a play around with it and see if i could get some better images posted

Started my defiler yesterday, here are a few early wip shots. still a massive amount of work to do, but as always any C&C welcome

Awesome looking stuff as per usual. Is it just the flash or is your new camera making the blues pop on the maulerfiend? I'd love to know which metallics you have used on the defiler.

Thanks dude. I think it's a combination of the camera and the luminous ink I used.
As for the defilement, it's leadbeltcher and brass scorpion for the metal parts, washed with sepia ink then drybrushed progressively lighter silvers.
The face is khorne red, sepia wash, layered khorne red and Mephiston red, with black ink for the detailing.

Completed the face plate today, and got some work done on the claws and auto cannons. tried an experiment on the claw blades and i think it worked, any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

work continues on the defiler, a bit slower than i'd like, but i'm experimenting as i go. The idea was to try and make the "metal" parts look like actual metal rather than metallic painted plastic. I'm fairly pleased with the results but i would appreciate any opinions.

Well i managed to get back on track with the defler today. I still have the weapons to do and some detailwork is needed, but i have got most of the metalic work done and ive mocked him up to work out the posing.

Looking sweet! I really like the exposed flesh/pipes on the mauler, and the Defiler looks quite nice, very Iron warrior.

I'm loving the metallic on that Defiler, he looks quite menacing. He reminds me slightly of the Replicators from Stargate. I don't know if its just a photo error but did you intend to make the front pincer claws look quite tarnished and worn/scratched? If you did I think that's an awesome job, if not a happy accident.

 Adamski Alders wrote:
I'm loving the metallic on that Defiler, he looks quite menacing. He reminds me slightly of the Replicators from Stargate. I don't know if its just a photo error but did you intend to make the front pincer claws look quite tarnished and worn/scratched? If you did I think that's an awesome job, if not a happy accident.

Cheers dude, and yeah its supposed to look old and worn. My intention was to have the whole defiler look ancient, i'm fairly pleased with the effect so far, though i'm aware of areas that i need to improve on.
Anyway, Heres an update on my progress on the defiler and my third csm squad. As always any c&c hugely appreciated

Quick update time. just some ageing on the brass areas rear daemon face and the hazard stripes left to finish.
As usual any c&c greatly appreciated.

I see your ability to paint many diagonal lines adjacent to eachother has improved. I like how "Hearty" the chevrons look, mine always ended up too bright... the visibe seams on this thing are making me cringe hard though.

Erm... Yeah... I kind of dropped the ball there.
Tbh they aren't that obvious irl, but I concede that they do need fixing. I'll get them sorted this weekend.

Well... i got distracted from the defiler when i had an idea to "improve" my hellbrute a little, (lets face it the standard one isnt great). Cue the cutting and filing and a trip or two to the bits box, and i'm left with this guy. I'm not 100% sold on him yet and would appreciate any comments or suggestions.

Will you Have Loaxtl scouts?
Kroot mercenaries?

Love your Army, nice work. Iron warriors have a great look and backstory and you have found that look.

Thanks dude, and yeah. I'm thinking lizardman skinks for the loxatl, but I'm open to any other suggestions. Once I get the bladedancers done I can start on the other elements of my army.

Still not 100% happy with the hellbrute, but at least its an improvement. lol. Anyway, I got some paint on the hellbrute, and started my havoc squad.
I also hit a milestone this week, just over 3000pts of iron warriors painted so far. maybe its time to start on the blade dancers and other elements of the army.

My newest addition. Part Built and ready for primer

Managed to get most of the heldrake base coated and shaded, plus did some of the detail work. Just the wings and claws to get done now before finishing up the details.
I also started work on my second rhino, which is a rescue project from a previous army.

Not much done this week due to work rudely interupting my hobby time. however i did manage to get some work done. The heldrake has most of the work on its metal parts, the wings are nearly done, and im quite pleased with the flesh/tubing (hope it shows in the pics). The rhino now has some of its (dodgy) freehand work done and im now working on the weathering. The backstory is that this rhino has seen millenia of service, and although its best days are long gone, it continues to serve the Iron Warriors reliably. once i finish the tank itself, i will be adding trophies from its countless battles. Plus i'll be using it for some much needed practice on my freehand, which as i will be "weathering" over it, doesnt need to be perfect.

Nearly done n the heldrake now. Just the claws and underside to finish. then hopefully i can get started on the blade dancers.

drake could most definately have done with a chevron neck. spiffy helldrake, very spiffy.

Thanks dude. I plan on getting another soon, and i want them to look different. so i was a little wary of overdoing the hazard stripes.

If I could suggest. My son has an iron warrior army and I usually paint the black and yellow stripes. I first paint the yellow then I use a super fine map marker to draw the black. After a nice wash it looks great.

Map markers I use are

http://www.staedtler.ca/en/products/markers-refill-ink/universal-pens/lumocolor-permanent-pen-313/

Thanks for the suggestion dude. I already use markers for my troops and any small hazard stripes, however I really want to perfect the art of freehanding them.

Nearly finished the Heldrake now. Just waiting for the sealer to dry before i add the final highlights and finish off the inside of the mouth.
Todays job was to build and paint the base, and i would appreciate any comments, suggestions or criticism as this guy is due to be entered in a local painting comp next week.

well. i did say i was going to start the blade dancers next, but a lack of ideas has led to me putting them off again. The Heldrake is done now, so a new project is needed. while i wait to aquire either a knight or lord of skulls i decided to add more big guns to my army, in the form of a forgefiend. Ive not got a lot done on it so far, but theres a sneak peak below.

Made some progress on the forgefiend today. Got most of the basecoating done, as well as the shading and some of the layering done on the body. The head and one of the ecto-plasma cannons are nearly done, and the flesh parts just need highlighting. i'm kind of hoping for some feedback on this one as im trying to push myself to the next level.

Well. Its been a while, but I have kept myself busy. Work on the renegade guard elements of the army has progressed well, and I have another 3k of csm assembled ready to paint. All in all im at around 12k so far. Including a warhound, lord of skulls and deamon knight.

2 questions - 1, Is that Bane as a Cultist leader in his trenchcoat? And 2, is that Skaven piloting that flyer or are my eyes just getting bad in their old age? Regardless that is some awesome additions you've got there.

1 yes it is, he'll be a renegade commissar once he's finished.
2 yes again, all my pilots and artillerymen will be skaven eventually.

3. Thank you very much. Im fairly pleased with them all, though the minotaur bulgryns are probably my favorites.

Fantastic looking army!

Renegade Commissar Bane is just brilliant, I can totally see that in a Reneguard army. The minotaur bulgryns are an awesome conversion. Also loved the table group shot of your Iron Warriors.

Cheers guys, as ever your feedback is extremely appreciated. I'll get more pics up once its light here, but for now... heres caderas grendel, wip. And my battle of the brush second placed Khornemower.

Only 2nd placed? Congrats dude, it is such an awesome job you did on him. Though I think it needs more skullz lol.

I'm liking the look of Grendel, is his faced all scared up or is that just a differing flesh tone, I can't quite tell. My only criticism of him (and its not really a criticism) is I thought his Mohawk would be a little bigger/more noticeable. It has been a while since I read my Iron warriors omnibus so I could be wrong about that.

Cheers dude. Tbh second was fair, the knight that came first was absolutely stunning. Grendels face is scarred, he was shot in the face with a plasma pistol releasing m'kar.

I didn't realise he was shot in the face while rescuing/releasing M'kar. I knew and remember him being scarred but I thought it happened before they got to the star-fort and M'kar. I could be very wrong, as I haven't read any of the Honsou stuff in a while.

Would that be the purple and white Knight in the background in the Lord of Skulls pic above? He does look pretty awesome. And is that a Giant hiding at the back as well? I don't suppose Chaos or Lords of Skulls go in for rosettes but congrats again on the 2nd place

Cheers dude, im pretty happy with him.
Anyway, I've been busy again working on squad Grendel, to be played as melta chosen. Plus a little kitbash to lead my homebrew spacewolf renegades (void wolves). Hopefully I'll get plenty done this week as im off work.

Looking really cool as per usual. Are Chosen the ones that can have loads of meltas in the squad? I'm sure I've seen someone mention that to me before.

3 things I've noticed:

1: Woah!!! Look at the size of those horns sprouting out of that guys helmet in the back left of the Squad Grendel pic. You could put someone's eye out with those. Is that a normal Chaos helmet as I don't recognise it.
2: Maugrim looks awesome but are his lightning claws supposed to be pink or is that just photo glare or something?
3: Will your Void Wolves be completely Homebrew? The idea reminds me a lot of some of the Space Wolves who went nuts/crazy/Wulfen and turned and joined Huron Blackheart when his Red Corsairs attacked and captured The Wolf of Fenris battleship. I was wondering if maybe they were representing a part of Huron's gift of forces to Honsou before he sets out to attack Ultramar.

All in all I cant wait to see what's next and I'm quite interested and intrigued about what you'll do with the Void Wolves.

Just stumbled across this. Great work dude, love the gritty colour scheme

Thanks guys, I'll try to keep it up.
In answer to the questions, yes, chosen get to choose from the best wargear, kind of the chaos version of sternguard veterans. the helmet is from the chaos sorcerer that comes with the chaos warshrine, the claws are going to be purple once he's finished, I need to re-glaze them with blue, and the void wolves will indeed be part of the renegade marine contingent of the bloodborn. Along with a small detatchment of Deathbringers and some others. Every time I re-read the books, I notice more things I need to include.

Eventually I'm planning on each "component part" of the bloodborn being a playable army in its own right. The whole army will only be brought out for apocalypse games

Really loving your Iron Warriors and all the hard work you have put into them


Here's mine

Gallery full of them.



http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-73459-41554_Iron%20Warriors.html

Cheers dude, its always nice to get the approval of another of perturabo's finest. I had a good look at your gallery. There's some seriously nice work there.

FERRUM IN FERREA SINE.

Void wolf standard bearer nearly finished now, and Grendels rhino now has a lovely hood ornament

Inspiring work! Keep it up!

Thanks dude. Next project, a terminator squad to accompany maugrim. Converted from wolf guard termies, using chaos knight parts.

That poor Ultra used as a Rhino hood ornament :( what did he ever do to you lol. Seriously though they all look bloody awesome, I'm especially loving those Terminator heads. They make a nice difference to all those big tusked ones and fit with the aesthetic of the helmet on the Iron Warriors emblem. Nice touch.

More void wolves, chosen and termies this time.

Void wolf terminator squad, completely at last. Theres about a hundred little bits I could do to improve them , but they're a strictly tabletop army so I'm calling time on them.

As a quick break from painting chaos marines, I thought I'd show the valkrie a little love. cue the freehand hazard stripes and major headaches. Lol

Whoo more free-hand hazard stripes I do always love your commitment to those things. Your Void Wolves are looking good. Questions though - where did you get that nasty evil looking purple sword on one of those Terminators? Will the Valkyrie be part of your Reneguard?

Cheers dude, the sword is from the chaos knight kit, which I bought for the horses (skaven roughriderz), and yeah the valkrie will be used for dropping melta veterans onto high priority targets. I've also started my second deamon knight.

I just realised that this guy is missing from my thread. I got him back on friday, after three months on display at the warrington gw store

Does a second Daemon Knight mean another 100+ skulls for the shoulder pad or will you save yourself from that insanity?

Lol. Probably not this time, this ones going to be dedicated to tzeentch

Ah so a different kind of insanity beckons then I also just realised you said Skaven Rough Riders. That sounds like a really cool idea and I can't wait to see how you pull it off. Just out of interest do you get many battles in with your Iron Warriors/Choas Horde?

Lol. Yeah, it'll be different... as for battles, I try to play at least once a week and im trying to organise a monthly apoc game.. I haven't fielded the whole army yet though

Wow those actually look real. And by real I mean like an actual model kit. I'm impressed.

Wow. High praise indeed. Theyre dark eldar helions, with skaven arms and heads. The weapons are from the chaos knight kit, as are the horses.