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Post by: Timmy149
Hello there,
What is the worst video game you have every played? I am keen to know.
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Post by: curran12
FF14
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Post by: Eldarain
Initially or since the relaunch?
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Post by: johnscott10
Dear Esther... wait is that even a game??
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Post by: LordofHats
I'd have to say the PC game I disliked the most was RUSE. Cool concept, some nice set pieces, but terrible game overall. So little content, not that entertaining, play one match you've kind of played them all. EDIT: And in part I dislike it so much because it was one of those games where you can see the greatness in it but all the wrong notes were hit in the execution and the experience was ruined which somehow just makes it worse.
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Post by: TheDraconicLord
The only game for PC that made me quit because of sheer frustration with the camera was Silent Hill 4: The Room. I have no idea if it's better for the consoles, but for the PC I went berserk after a forest section, the camera was too bad.
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Post by: Jihadnik
Hmm, I played CSI Hard Evidence back in my achievement whoring days...five murders, 200 points each...I made it through two of them and just couldn't do it....I still feel dirty...
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Post by: SkavenLord
Starcraft 2 because the damn thing wouldn't start up properly and when it did, it was very slow and froze before a game began. Ironically, if it actually worked, it would have been my favorite game. I heard it's very good so maybe if I keep trying...
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Post by: Soladrin
SkavenLord wrote:Starcraft 2 because the damn thing wouldn't start up properly and when it did, it was very slow and froze before a game began. Ironically, if it actually worked, it would have been my favorite game. I heard it's very good so maybe if I keep trying...
So, because your PC is gak the game is bad?
Maybe you need to get a new PC... just saying.
The new SimCity is pretty fething bad though.
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Post by: PredaKhaine
I'd like to put Dawn of War 2.
My computer had/has the power to run it, but its never worked and I've no idea why. Something to do with steam...
Rites of War was bad, but for some reason I really enjoyed it.
So I'm going for Daikatana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daikatana
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Post by: dalloskid
I'd say that most DISSAPOINTING is Dawn of War 2. It didn't work well even though my system could handle it, but even when I played it on another PC I just didn't think the new style was close to enjoyable - just very repetitive. Left a sour taste in my mouth.
Also I hated that Halo Wars wasn't PC, just an average Console RTS.
Worst is a very hard decision though.. can't say.
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Post by: SkavenLord
Soladrin wrote:SkavenLord wrote:Starcraft 2 because the damn thing wouldn't start up properly and when it did, it was very slow and froze before a game began. Ironically, if it actually worked, it would have been my favorite game. I heard it's very good so maybe if I keep trying...
So, because your PC is gak the game is bad?
Maybe you need to get a new PC... just saying.
The new SimCity is pretty fething bad though.
Aaaaaaand I'm an idiot again.  Okay, let me try a different one...
Personally, Neverwinter Nights 2. I just found it way too linear and at certain points found myself throwing my character into hopeless battles causing me to restart roughly 5 times around the beginning.
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Post by: Alfndrate
The relaunch has been fantastic, and as soul-sucking and enjoyable as any MMO I've played.
Worst video game played on the PC? Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition without a controller or the patch to get it to work on a keyboard.
But I have a wired controller so I'm good!
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Post by: xruslanx
Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
That or World of Warcraft. Talk about a snorefest, I have better things to do with my time than sitting here clicking on boars for three hours.
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Post by: FirePainter
Master of Orion 3. After the glory and amazing game theat 2 was when I played 3 it was such a let down that I only finished 1 game of it.
Or I have to say I was disappointed with Spore. The beginning of the game was fun running around as a creature and eating things but after that it just turned into a bad rts
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Post by: zedmeister
PredaKhaine wrote:I'd like to put Dawn of War 2.
My computer had/has the power to run it, but its never worked and I've no idea why. Something to do with steam...
Rites of War was bad, but for some reason I really enjoyed it.
So I'm going for Daikatana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daikatana
Yeah, definitely Daikatana. Played it for all of 30 minutes and got annoyed by robot insects the same colour as the rest of the game. Got annoyed when I realised I couldn't save and died to a mutant frog (at least I think it was) and discovering that I'd have to do the irritating run through the swamp again.
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Post by: curran12
Before the relaunch. And yeah, I'm not giving that dog another try. They burned up all of my goodwill.
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Post by: Palindrome
Black and White 2. The first one was ok but the second really plumbed the depths of boredom. Peter molyneux really has fallen far from the halycon days of Bullfrog.
Spore is a close second, by far the most overhyped game that I have experienced.
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Post by: streamdragon
FirePainter wrote:Master of Orion 3. After the glory and amazing game theat 2 was when I played 3 it was such a let down that I only finished 1 game of it.
I would agree with you here, but I never actually got into a game of MoO3. Fired it up, looked at it, uninstalled and fired MoO2 back up.
For me, I would have to go with EYE Divine Cybermancy. The trailer for that game looked so amazing. A new cyberpunkish world to go al sorts of crazy in. The game itself has too many glaring flaws to be considered "good" though. So mabe not worst ever, but definitely the most disappointing.
If we are talking "worst oh my god why did I spend money on this" then I would go with Bad Rats. Even $0.49 was too much for that.
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Post by: Spinner
Colonial Marines.
I have never felt so cheated.
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Post by: pities2004
xruslanx wrote:Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
That or World of Warcraft. Talk about a snorefest, I have better things to do with my time than sitting here clicking on boars for three hours.
Yeah World of Warcraft is so bad, it's not like they make money off it.
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Post by: gossipmeng
I'm not a wow fanboy and not really into fantasy at all, but the game did keep my attention for a few years - you may not like it, but hardly a bad game.
I haven't really had a PC game that I've had to quite playing half way through or hated. Although, I was very disappointed with CoD: Black Ops 2. I regret buying that game as it felt very dated and the campaign had a massive build up, then with the push of a button all the bad "things" were destroyed.
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Post by: xruslanx
pities2004 wrote:xruslanx wrote:Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
That or World of Warcraft. Talk about a snorefest, I have better things to do with my time than sitting here clicking on boars for three hours.
Yeah World of Warcraft is so bad, it's not like they make money off it.
It's still a bad game. Click on x,y co-ordinate a billion times until a computer changes a number from 3 to 4. I know games have always been, essentially, data, but WOW just stripped out any gameplay whatsoever.
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Post by: Trondheim
xruslanx wrote: pities2004 wrote:xruslanx wrote:Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
That or World of Warcraft. Talk about a snorefest, I have better things to do with my time than sitting here clicking on boars for three hours.
Yeah World of Warcraft is so bad, it's not like they make money off it.
It's still a bad game. Click on x,y co-ordinate a billion times until a computer changes a number from 3 to 4. I know games have always been, essentially, data, but WOW just stripped out any gameplay whatsoever.
Have an exalt my friened! WoW is just horrid, although honorable mentions goes to anything else publised by Blizzard and the sorry excuse for the latest Ghost rekon game
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Post by: LordofHats
Ghost rekon game
Amen. Though gonna be honest, I think the PC port of Advanced Warfighter was worse.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
Game of Thrones Genesis.
I know it didn't get particularly good reviews anyway, but I got it cheap for about £10 in a Steam sale and I thought as a Game of Thrones fan I might as well give it a go. It looked interesting, a little like Empire Earth. I installedi t, booted it up, tried to start the first campaign...and nothing. I gak you not, the "Start Campaign" button literally would not work when I clicked it, no matter what I tried. Same for every other "Start" button, whether Tutorial, Campaign or Skirmish.
No. Its a narrative story, which uses video game software as a tool to help tell the story. Think of it as a semi-interactive poem or short story, not as a game.
I loved it, but I only "played" it once.
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Post by: Trondheim
LordofHats wrote: Ghost rekon game
Amen. Though gonna be honest, I think the PC port of Advanced Warfighter was worse.
How could I forget that horrid experience, the trauma must have purged it from my mind
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Post by: Bullockist
lord of the realms 3, i loved 1 thought 2 was just ok , but 3 took everything i liked about the game and turned it into some terrible rts hybrid. I played the game mainly for the economic sim angle, and i still break it out occasionally to get my sheep and cow farms cranking, just thinking of it makes me want to play it. Now, where is that cd?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
GUN.
I returned it the next day. I've never returned a game before or since.
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Post by: Ouze
I'd like to think I played a worse game at some point in my life, and in truth I must have - but that does not change the fact that the instant I saw this thread title, before I clicked into the contents, I word-for-word thought out this post.
Close runner up: This game I found in the clearance rack at Best Buy.
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Post by: Doctadeth
The only game I stopped playing because the gameplay was horrid.
Jane's Advanced Strike Fighters. ITS THE WORST sim ever. Its so arcadey, and it needlessly limits you to about 1/2 what the aircraft can do.
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Post by: Compel
I don't think I managed to stomach playing more than 10 minutes of Frank Herbert's Dune. - The weird anime-ish style RPG version of the book/miniseries/film that had completely messed up looking characters.
I also have to put in Star Wars Force Unleashed 1 (PC Port).
I have absolutely no idea how they managed to make playing as Darth Vader going around slaughtering wookiees and jedi utterly boring.
Another thing where I didn't get past the opening level.
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Post by: SkavenLord
xruslanx wrote:Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
That or World of Warcraft. Talk about a snorefest, I have better things to do with my time than sitting here clicking on boars for three hours.
Are the Dawn of War 2 expansions any better?
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Second sight. So unbelievably clunky. Everyone also has googly eyes, which creeped the hell out of me.
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Post by: Bromsy
Any truly bad games I either enjoy for some quirky reason, or I stop playing immediately and forget about. I remember being really disappointed by Settlers: Heritage of Kings; and anyone who reads the video games forum ought to know my feelings on the new XCOM.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
I don't remember playing too many bad games (I've probably buried those memories by playing so many good games). I try to read at least a couple reviews before buying a game to get an idea about whether it will be a game I like.
But, as Master of Orion 3 was mentioned, I do remember trying to play it, and then just going back to MOO2 instead.
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Post by: Melissia
Combat Arms.
Or maybe that was just the hideously stupid playerbase.
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Post by: BrookM
Soldner was atrocious for me.
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Post by: theninjabadger
Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
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Post by: SkavenLord
Apparently it's a tactical shooter game, a little like Call of Duty when they were making their games based on world war 2. Looked it up on Wikipedia so don't take my word for it though.
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Post by: BrookM
It's not a WWII shooter though. Just a horrible, bad shooter that I thought would be cool but really, it is gak.
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Post by: Melissia
theninjabadger wrote:Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
When, exactly, did you play them that they "aren't original"?
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Post by: Ouze
theninjabadger wrote:Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
lolwut
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Post by: Macok
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Second sight. So unbelievably clunky. Everyone also has googly eyes, which creeped the hell out of me.
Whaaat? I loved Second Sight
Well, I played Big Rigs but only because of it's "fame".
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
X-com Enforcer.
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Post by: Trench-Raider
I've been playing games on a PC since 1990 (when I swapped it for my old Comodore and I have seen some pretty dreadful games in my time. But two old ones stand out.....
The first is an old game from 1990 called "Rorke's Drift" depicting the battle of the same name. It was simply awful even by the standards of the time. It was slow moving, repetative and required you to give individual orders to every single one of the 120+ defenders. Did I mention that the interface was terrible and non-intuitive?
http://www.myabandonware.com/game/rorkes-drift-103
It really is too bad that the game was so awful as Rorke's Drift is a subject that simply screams out for a good PC game treatment.
The second is a gem titled Universal Military Simulator.
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/663/
This was yet another game that failed to live up to the promises that the publisher made. The interface was so bad and the game play so uninspiring, that I gave up trying to play it after about an hour and never installed it again. It's one of the few PC games that I felt totally cheated for buying.
TR
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Post by: LordofHats
Melissia wrote:theninjabadger wrote:Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
When, exactly, did you play them that they "aren't original"?
Ouze wrote:theninjabadger wrote:Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
lolwut
I second the question and the reaction. I will also add;
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
theninjabadger wrote:Half Life and portal not original in anyway nothing new everything had been done before
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Post by: BrotherVord
I didn't care for la noire. Which surprised me.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Macok wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Second sight. So unbelievably clunky. Everyone also has googly eyes, which creeped the hell out of me.
Whaaat? I loved Second Sight
Well, I played Big Rigs but only because of it's "fame".
How exactly does one 'play' Big Rigs?
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Post by: ExNoctemNacimur
I love the Paradox strategy games, I play them excessively, but EU: Rome was terrible. While Crusader Kings II and Victoria II captured the time period, Rome didn't at all, and it was just complex to be complex It was disappointing. In a similar vein, Pax Romana was pretty bad.
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Post by: Rysaer
xruslanx wrote:Dawn of War 2. It was just really, really bad with very little to do. Take cover, throw grenades, advance. Yawwwwwn.
Seconded, I played it for a few hours and then uninstalled it, as a massive 40k fan I was quite let down by this. I keep thinking I should force myself to go through it, but my general rule of thumb is that if I'm having to force myself through it, I'm just not going to enjoy it.
Also Overlord, I really love the game but I have had constant issues with it, picked it up with Overlord 2 and some expansion stuff in a steam sale impulse purchase but it crashes constantly or doesn't render/load properly.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Just as the review video shows: 1. Stop your truck. 2. Go into a reverse turn. 3. Move so fast you tear a hole in the space-time continuum.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
I quite enjoyed Dawn of War 2. Just finished Retribution a couple weeks ago.
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Post by: Melissia
It's weird how the DoW1 fanboys come out of the woodwork to claim DoW2 is "ermagerd DA WORTS GAEM EVAR" yet again, like cockroaches in a rotting old run-down hotel. Even if you get pissy over the fact that it wasn't a direct clone of DoW1 with no changes because you're a boring person, the claim that DoW2 was the worst PC game ever is absolutely ludicrous and ignorant. Believe me, there have been far, FAR worse games than anything Relic's produced. Mind you, even my post about Combat Arms was just joking around and me hating on its really crap fanbase so I can hardly judge you for it
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Post by: Ouze
Well, while I think it's self-evident that DoW1 was, like, a bajillion times better than DoW2 (except for networking) and anyone who feels differently is probably getting kickbacks from the DoW2 development team to say so publicly, I definitely would not say DoW2 was a bad game, let alone "the worst game".
Also, I just remembered Extreme Paintbrawl. That might be the worst game I ever played - I bought it for $10 at CompUSA and spent longer on the bus home than I did in game.
Still I reiterate that when I saw this thread title, before reading the contents, I immediately, much like a rorschach test, thought "Aliens Colonial Marines"; like the other person before me.
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Post by: Melissia
I admit, when I saw the thread, I immediately thought about saying Starcraft just to spite the obnoxious Blizzard fanbase.
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Post by: theninjabadger
Please don't spam the boards.
Reds8n
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Post by: Ouze
Melissia wrote:I admit, when I saw the thread, I immediately thought about saying Starcraft just to spite the obnoxious Blizzard fanbase.
As a Total Annihilation fanboy, I see no problem with this.
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Post by: xruslanx
Melissia wrote:It's weird how the DoW1 fanboys come out of the woodwork to claim DoW2 is "ermagerd DA WORTS GAEM EVAR" yet again, like cockroaches in a rotting old run-down hotel. Even if you get pissy over the fact that it wasn't a direct clone of DoW1 with no changes because you're a boring person, the claim that DoW2 was the worst PC game ever is absolutely ludicrous and ignorant. Believe me, there have been far, FAR worse games than anything Relic's produced.
Well no. I've been playing PC games since back in the day (brah!) and while I wouldn't say DOW 2 was the worst video game ever, it is very sucky. Like a huge version of Fallout Tactics (a very mediocre game) but without any of its redeeming qualities. You need to stop assuming that people hate DOW2 because it's not DOW1. It simply lacks gameplay, the "tactical" elements are *always the same*. Oh I'm getting shot at, better take cover...that's not great gameplay, that's a glorified quick-time event...only without the dramatic effect that quick-time events can have. Automatically Appended Next Post: Rysaer wrote:
Also Overlord, I really love the game but I have had constant issues with it, picked it up with Overlord 2 and some expansion stuff in a steam sale impulse purchase but it crashes constantly or doesn't render/load properly.
Overlord was one of those games that tried really hard to make you *not* like it.
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Post by: Galdos
Command and Conquer 4
enough said
Now even though that is the worst game ive played on PC. It is not the game I enjoyed the least. Men of War takes that case, the stupidity and broken as nature of that game made me uninstall it before i even completed 1/8 of the game. When Armor Cars are one shooting Panzer 3s while the AC is on the move or a single Valentine solos 4 Panzer 4s and the same time (on easy with the Panzers on above ground) or soldiers becoming zombies and literally rising from the dead to reman their guns after a battle, ya that game was bad. People claim its hard and its because the game doesnt give 2 gaks about reality and grants the AI huge buffs just to do it.
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Post by: Riquende
Civilization 5.
Horrible game, if I could remove anything from my Steam library forever it would be that. Can't believe I preordered it.
Also X-Wing vs TIE Fighter was a disappointment after the previous games in the series.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Macok wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Second sight. So unbelievably clunky. Everyone also has googly eyes, which creeped the hell out of me.
Whaaat? I loved Second Sight Well, I played Big Rigs but only because of it's "fame". To be fair, it's really only because of the controls and the weird eyes. If it weren't for those, I wouldn't dislike it as much. It's not as bad as say, Ride to Hell: Retribution. I haven't played that though :/
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
xruslanx wrote: Melissia wrote:It's weird how the DoW1 fanboys come out of the woodwork to claim DoW2 is "ermagerd DA WORTS GAEM EVAR" yet again, like cockroaches in a rotting old run-down hotel. Even if you get pissy over the fact that it wasn't a direct clone of DoW1 with no changes because you're a boring person, the claim that DoW2 was the worst PC game ever is absolutely ludicrous and ignorant. Believe me, there have been far, FAR worse games than anything Relic's produced.
Well no. I've been playing PC games since back in the day (brah!) and while I wouldn't say DOW 2 was the worst video game ever, it is very sucky. Like a huge version of Fallout Tactics (a very mediocre game) but without any of its redeeming qualities. You need to stop assuming that people hate DOW2 because it's not DOW1. It simply lacks gameplay, the "tactical" elements are *always the same*. Oh I'm getting shot at, better take cover...that's not great gameplay, that's a glorified quick-time event...only without the dramatic effect that quick-time events can have.
Yes because intensive micro, base and resource management, proper build queue and constant raids on the enemies supplies to keep them from getting better tech/gear is the exact same, planning to outflank your enemy, planning to make sure your heavy squads can properly get into position and generally suppress the enemy while outflanking them with jump pack troops...
I guess doing the same in DoW1 must have been an utter chore of a game because its the utter same every game, or maybe those arguments you provided are so generic that they can be used right up against DoW1 without hesitation, right down to taking cover because you are getting shot at.
Also Fallout Tactics and DoW2 aren't even close at all, and I've been recently playing through Fallout Tactics.
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Post by: fishy bob
Journeys End. I think that's what it was called.
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Post by: Spinner
Ouze wrote:Well, while I think it's self-evident that DoW1 was, like, a bajillion times better than DoW2 (except for networking) and anyone who feels differently is probably getting kickbacks from the DoW2 development team to say so publicly, I definitely would not say DoW2 was a bad game, let alone "the worst game".
Also, I just remembered Extreme Paintbrawl. That might be the worst game I ever played - I bought it for $10 at CompUSA and spent longer on the bus home than I did in game.
Still I reiterate that when I saw this thread title, before reading the contents, I immediately, much like a rorschach test, thought "Aliens Colonial Marines"; like the other person before me.
It's like a perfect storm of terrible choices and wasted potential.
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Post by: Timmy149
TBH, any C&C games after EA took over production are bad. Still playing Tiberian Sun and RA 2 here!
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Post by: Melissia
xruslanx wrote:You need to stop assuming that people hate DOW2 because it's not DOW1.
I will whenever I stop being right about that assumption. You've never played DoW2 if you think it "lacks gameplay". So... just like every other game out there aside from Calvinball. DoW1 was "always the same", unless you count expansion packs changing the game up. xruslanx wrote:Oh I'm getting shot at, better take cover...that's not great gameplay, that's a glorified quick-time event...
So... just like DoW1. And Really, are you honestly going to try to argue that building a bunch of units and attack-moving them then building some more to do the same thing, while completely and utterly ignoring cover and positioning, is "great gameplay"?. Your argument is both nonsensical and hypocritical. Automatically Appended Next Post: Timmy149 wrote:TBH, any C&C games after EA took over production are bad. Still playing Tiberian Sun and RA 2 here!
I found that Tiberian Sun was boring. It wasn't bad... just entirely forgettable. It might have just been that I was burned out on the style, though.
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Post by: -Loki-
Hmm.
I remember playing the Dragonriders of Pern PC game when I was a teenager, and being completely underwhelmed by the game as a whole. Even aside from the gameplay being one huge fetch quest, I recall being stuck somewhere for weeks because I couldn't figure out how to progress. Turned out there was a switch I needed to press, but the games terrible camera wouldn't let you press it because it couldn't select it as actionable. You needed to use a manual 'item cycle' button to select it, a button mentioned nowhere in the game or manual that I only found out about on some random website.
Overall though I tend to find enjoyment in pretty much any form of electronic entertainment, but that game... That's up there as the worst I played.
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Post by: TheCustomLime
Aion. Cheesus Crust that game was so frickin' boring... it had some cool stuff but dear god was it boring. It made WoW look fun by comparison (Which is the second runner up).
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Ouze wrote:Well, while I think it's self-evident that DoW1 was, like, a bajillion times better than DoW2 (except for networking) and anyone who feels differently is probably getting kickbacks from the DoW2 development team to say so publicly, I definitely would not say DoW2 was a bad game, let alone "the worst game".
Yeah. They were just different styles of game. The first one, which I loved, was a traditional RTS. The second one wasn't. Doesn't make it bad, just different.
I can see why you might be annoyed if you went into DoWII expecting an RTS like the first game, but again, doesn't mean that the game is bad, it just means you didn't like it, and there is a difference.
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Post by: Zathras
The worst PC game I've ever played was Fire Warrior.....until I played Colonial Marines.
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Post by: PredaKhaine
Ooh - a special mention for AVP on the PS3/X-box. Not quite an awful game, but DAMN that game was short.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Zathras wrote:The worst PC game I've ever played was Fire Warrior.....until I played Colonial Marines.
Best memories from Fire Warrior come from the first level:
1. I'm standing at the end of a trench line. There's 2-3 Guardsmen up ahead, all firing at me. I got to take cover when I realise I'm not being hit. I stop, and look a little more closely. The bolts from their Lasguns are screaming down the trench and then just vanishing a couple of metres before they hit me. I stand in the open for a while and watch them fire away, never hitting because their guns lack the range to fire down the trench.
2. I reach the end boss, and it's a Vulture Gunship!!!  After circle strafing it for a while the Vulture vanishes, is replaced with a 2d explosion sprite, and then nothing. No wreckage. No smoke. No linger effects to show that the Vulture even existed. It just went "pop" and was gone.
Terrible game.
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Post by: TheDraconicLord
H.B.M.C. wrote: Zathras wrote:The worst PC game I've ever played was Fire Warrior.....until I played Colonial Marines.
1. I'm standing at the end of a trench line. There's 2-3 Guardsmen up ahead, all firing at me. I got to take cover when I realise I'm not being hit. I stop, and look a little more closely. The bolts from their Lasguns are screaming down the trench and then just vanishing a couple of metres before they hit me. I stand in the open for a while and watch them fire away, never hitting because their guns lack the range to fire down the trench.
This seems an accurate representation of the lasgun vs tau rifle, what's the problem?  24'' vs 30''
Ya know, I loved DoW2 so much. I know everyone has their tastes, but I never thought some people would consider it the worst video game, that was... surprising.
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Post by: Melissia
Fortunately for me, most of the really BAD games I have are on NES, rather htan PC, heh.
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Post by: curran12
As far as DoW2 goes, it has a lot of things that I like in the single player. I felt way more connected and engaged in the story when my squads had a recognizable face and personality, which is something that most RTSes take me out of when my hero/lord is just another dude with a different color. With DoW2, I felt more invested in learning about the characters and personalities.
The RPG elements helped somewhat, but were not really well executed in DoW2, as each squad had a clear 'best' option and you'd dump points into that always. So good idea, but needed a more fleshed out execution.
I think if there was more options and more forces to command, I think that would be a very good overall design though.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Gothic 3 - the most buggy piece of kack ever released. Even some time after it was out when I picked up a copy for a fiver it was unplayable even with all the patches installed. Half of the quests could not be completed as characters you needed to interact with didn't exist for example...
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Post by: LordofHats
I'm going to call that one of the lamest titles ever to appear on a PC game XD
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Post by: kirsanth
LordofHats wrote:
I'm going to call that one of the lamest titles ever to appear on a PC game XD
And the game is worse, if it can be believed.
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Post by: xruslanx
ZebioLizard2 wrote:xruslanx wrote: Melissia wrote:It's weird how the DoW1 fanboys come out of the woodwork to claim DoW2 is "ermagerd DA WORTS GAEM EVAR" yet again, like cockroaches in a rotting old run-down hotel. Even if you get pissy over the fact that it wasn't a direct clone of DoW1 with no changes because you're a boring person, the claim that DoW2 was the worst PC game ever is absolutely ludicrous and ignorant. Believe me, there have been far, FAR worse games than anything Relic's produced.
Well no. I've been playing PC games since back in the day (brah!) and while I wouldn't say DOW 2 was the worst video game ever, it is very sucky. Like a huge version of Fallout Tactics (a very mediocre game) but without any of its redeeming qualities. You need to stop assuming that people hate DOW2 because it's not DOW1. It simply lacks gameplay, the "tactical" elements are *always the same*. Oh I'm getting shot at, better take cover...that's not great gameplay, that's a glorified quick-time event...only without the dramatic effect that quick-time events can have.
Yes because intensive micro, base and resource management, proper build queue and constant raids on the enemies supplies to keep them from getting better tech/gear is the exact same, planning to outflank your enemy, planning to make sure your heavy squads can properly get into position and generally suppress the enemy while outflanking them with jump pack troops...
I guess doing the same in DoW1 must have been an utter chore of a game because its the utter same every game, or maybe those arguments you provided are so generic that they can be used right up against DoW1 without hesitation, right down to taking cover because you are getting shot at.
Also Fallout Tactics and DoW2 aren't even close at all, and I've been recently playing through Fallout Tactics.
DOW1 is about resource management and force concentration, it's a real time strategy rather than a tactics game. To be fair what I said above could be equally applied to any squad-based tactical game, though it's better implimented elsewhere (Fallout: Tactics). Automatically Appended Next Post:
Fire warrior was awesome.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I can't believe I'm about to say this... xruslanx wrote:DOW1 is about resource management and force concentration, it's a real time strategy rather than a tactics game. To be fair what I said above could be equally applied to any squad-based tactical game, though it's better implimented elsewhere (Fallout: Tactics). I completely agree with xruslanx. In fact, I don't think there's anything he could say that would make me change my... *sigh* ... never mind...
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Post by: Melissia
I'm glad I knew Fire Warrior was bad before I ever played it. Expectations can be killer.
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Post by: Super Ready
I have to admit... I *enjoyed* Fire Warrior. But I cannot in good conscience defend it as a good game to others on that basis alone - I'm aware that as a 40k player I'm HUGELY biased.
On that note, however... I couldn't stand Rites of War. It tried too hard to emulate tabletop play when Dawn of War (amongst others) later showed us that the better route was to show us things about the setting via a videogame that tabletop couldn't.
Enter The Matrix had major issues, too. It just didn't really know what sort of game it wanted to be, and its focus (and its control systems!!) wound up all over the place as a result. And that alternate ending? ...err, I could see what they were TRYING to do (because they completely broke all immersion for 5-10 minutes to try to explain) but we really could've done without that, thanks.
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Post by: BrookM
Fire Warrior did have some great, hammy voice acting.
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Post by: sarpedons-right-hand
The worst PC game I ever played? Well, being as how I'm console boy and have only ever owned one PC in the whole of my adult life, it would have to be Daikatana, or any of the Leisure Suit Larry 'Games'. All equally cack in my opinion.
But then, I really dislike Master Of Orion as well. Never understood my mates obsession with that game back in the day. I had a few friends who would hot seat that bad boy for 12-14 hours at a time.
How
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Post by: sebster
I've played a lot of bad games in my time. Most of them were let down by bugs or simply had limited and unoriginal gameplay.
But among the dozens of mediocre games I've played, I think only one was so badly made that it wasn't just the worst game I ever played, but actually failed to be a game at all, and that game was Master of Orion 3.
I loved the hell out of Master of Orion 2. Played that game through a silly amount of times. And Master of Orion 3 came out when I was living in a small country town and had hours every night to play computer games. So even though it was obtuse, and presented me dozens of bits of information every turn with no explanation to how these pieces all fit together, I still kept playing, expecting that when it all made sense there'd be a fun game there. So I spent weeks piecing it all together, figuring out how every unexplained and obtuse sub-system linked together... until I slowly realised there simply wasn't a game at the core of Master of Orion 3. Once you understood how it works, there is either one obvious optimum choice, or perhaps more often the choice is meaningless. And even that can still be forgiven in a game where you get giant death rays that can blow up planets... but the makers of Master of Orion 3 just didn't understand the idea of toys, instead doling out upgrades in an endless series of minor improvements, so the increase in power is just incremental, each level indistinguishable from the last.
The whole game helped me understand game design in a way that no good game could. There was a time when I would have thought good game design was hundreds of sub-systems all working to produce an incredibly complex game, but Master of Orion 3 taught me that doesn't even produce a bad game, because what it produces isn't even what a game is.
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Post by: Medium of Death
I think that EA did a good job on Tiberium 3, Kanes Wrath and RA 3. The expansion to RA 3 was slight disappointing as it didn't add new unit to multiplayer. They really failed hard with Tiberium 4 as they tried to make it into DoW... terribly idea.
The worst game that I luckily didn't play was Colonial Marines. How they can still be a successful company after that shameless lie of a trailer the put out at E3 is a disgrace. Gearbox are a joke, and I will be extremely cautious about buying another game from them in the future. The hype they get after Borderlands is completely undeserved. It's an OK game, but it's hardly groundbreaking.
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Post by: Soladrin
Medium of Death wrote:I think that EA did a good job on Tiberium 3, Kanes Wrath and RA 3. The expansion to RA 3 was slight disappointing as it didn't add new unit to multiplayer. They really failed hard with Tiberium 4 as they tried to make it into DoW... terribly idea.
The worst game that I luckily didn't play was Colonial Marines. How they can still be a successful company after that shameless lie of a trailer the put out at E3 is a disgrace. Gearbox are a joke, and I will be extremely cautious about buying another game from them in the future. The hype they get after Borderlands is completely undeserved. It's an OK game, but it's hardly groundbreaking.
Not to mention it has become a complete DLC cash cow at this point.
Here, have a game of the year edition with all the DLC! What's that? The DLC we released 2 weeks after that? Offcourse you won't be getting that.
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Post by: filbert
Frontier: First Encounters ranks as being both the worst and one of my favourite PC games of all time. Worst, because it was released with a number of crippling bugs. This was before the days of widespread home internet connectivity. You couldn't simply go online to get a patch. I had to write a letter to the game publishers to get them to send a patch on a floppy disk. David Braben, the father of Elite, actually took the publishers to court over the fact the game was released in such a state.
One of my favourite games in that it changed what an open ended game was and could be and opened up my eyes to what appeared to be a vast and living galaxy, along with excellent trading, combat and understated use of FMV (at a time when FMV was needlessly shoehorned into everything).
If ever a game deserves a full remake, it is First Encounters.
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Post by: dementedwombat
This one is really hard. I guess it's hard to separate "bad game" from "game I didn't like". Or the reverse...I played and enjoyed a heck of a lot of "bad" games in my day. I think the award has to go to a stinker of a budget RTS called "empire of the ants". It was a really cool concept (ant colony RTS) that got completely ruined by a horrible interface, horrible mechanics, and a tutorial that actually shipped physically broken and un-completable so you couldn't even learn how to play. I played it as a kid and didn't even finish the first mission because I just could not make myself enjoy it.
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Post by: The Grumpy Eldar
Rogue Warrior, Superman N64 and Dark Void... Boy these games sure... were terrible. Never play these games unless you like to torture yourself.
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Post by: Melissia
How'd you play Superman 64 on PC?
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Post by: LordofHats
We could always expand to games in general.
I shall take your Superman 64 and raise you a Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis
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Post by: The Grumpy Eldar
By the power of an N64 emulator.
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Post by: xruslanx
Fire warrior *was* awesome.
Before fire warrior, Chaos Gate was the most realistic 40k video game experience we had. It was a great game, but its graphics were crappy and it was designed for windows 95. When Fire Warrior came along, we suddenly had glorious 3D Tau, Imperial Gaurd and Chaos Marines! And lasguns, pulse rifles etc.
We went from this (in its original resolution btw) :
To this:
It's all very well saying "other FPSs had better gameplay". Well yeah they probably did, but if you're a 40k nerd, the fact that it could run relatively stable was enough. The fact that it had mediocre gameplay was just a bonus  though the weapon sounds were, iirc, pretty cool.
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Post by: Timmy149
How does that Tau hold the burst cannon? I do not understan...
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Post by: xruslanx
The same way that the guy in Doom manages to hold 9 guns.
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Post by: MrDwhitey
No, it was still crap.
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Post by: Eldarain
I wish they'd remake Chaos Gate.
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Post by: LordofHats
I'd love a 40k game set up like XCom. Throw in the ability to put together teams with your choice of Space Marines, Guardsmen, and Sisters of Battle and that thing would be awesome. Hell the DoW2 campain was already somewhat like that.
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Post by: Platuan4th
BrookM wrote:Fire Warrior did have some great, hammy voice acting. 
Also, there's just some warm feelings from the first time seeing a Marine with an autogun in multiplayer.
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Post by: -Loki-
xruslanx wrote:
Fire warrior *was* awesome.
Before fire warrior, Chaos Gate was the most realistic 40k video game experience we had. It was a great game, but its graphics were crappy and it was designed for windows 95. When Fire Warrior came along, we suddenly had glorious 3D Tau, Imperial Gaurd and Chaos Marines! And lasguns, pulse rifles etc.
You seem to be confusing being the first big budget 40k video game to being an actual good game. Fire Warrior, as a game, was terrible. It really was. Even being a stark, raving 40k fanboy at the time didn't save Fire Warrior from being terrible. There were even better console FPS's out at the time, which was a time of terrible console FPS's. Automatically Appended Next Post: LordofHats wrote:I'd love a 40k game set up like XCom. Throw in the ability to put together teams with your choice of Space Marines, Guardsmen, and Sisters of Battle and that thing would be awesome. Hell the DoW2 campain was already somewhat like that.
Already been done, but only with Space Marines. Warhammer 40k Squad Command. Handheld only though, PSP and DS.
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Post by: LordofHats
Handheld pfft. I want a real game
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Post by: -Loki-
It honestly wasn't too bad from what I remember, it just wasn't too good either.
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Post by: Timmy149
I think the general consensus it that while fire warrior was fun, it was still a bad game.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Timmy149 wrote:I think the general consensus it that while fire warrior was fun, it was still a bad game.
Actually I don't see where this bad game thing came from, I just thought it was an average game that simply had nothing really notable outside of being 40k.
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Post by: Platuan4th
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Timmy149 wrote:I think the general consensus it that while fire warrior was fun, it was still a bad game.
Actually I don't see where this bad game thing came from, I just thought it was an average game that simply had nothing really notable outside of being 40k.
In addition to being sup-par gameplay wise, the game was buggy and glitchy as hell. Things just didn't really work as intended, such as the scenario HBMC mentioned.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Platuan4th wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote: Timmy149 wrote:I think the general consensus it that while fire warrior was fun, it was still a bad game.
Actually I don't see where this bad game thing came from, I just thought it was an average game that simply had nothing really notable outside of being 40k.
In addition to being sup-par gameplay wise, the game was buggy and glitchy as hell. Things just didn't really work as intended, such as the scenario HBMC mentioned.
Never had any glitches myself when I beat through it, so I guess I missed all that.
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Post by: Timmy149
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Platuan4th wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote: Timmy149 wrote:I think the general consensus it that while fire warrior was fun, it was still a bad game.
Actually I don't see where this bad game thing came from, I just thought it was an average game that simply had nothing really notable outside of being 40k.
In addition to being sup-par gameplay wise, the game was buggy and glitchy as hell. Things just didn't really work as intended, such as the scenario HBMC mentioned.
Never had any glitches myself when I beat through it, so I guess I missed all that.
It was more non-optimised for certain systems, rather than a game bug.
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Post by: Compel
The PC port was a disaster too, at least, the initial release was. But I think I mentioned that earlier.
It was hell downloading / installing / finding the right patches in the right order as well.
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Post by: Frankenberry
Firewarrior was pretty epicly bad. The game didn't even WORK half the time.
Army Men 2 was vomit-inducing.
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Post by: Shredsmore
I really liked that game
World War and Toys in Space were better though.
Worst game I've played on PC? Not exactly worst, but I strongly disliked Just Cause 2...
If internet flash games count, definitely Curse of the Chocolate Fountain. Oh god.
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Post by: Timmy149
Shredsmore wrote:
I really liked that game
World War and Toys in Space were better though.
Worst game I've played on PC? Not exactly worst, but I strongly disliked Just Cause 2...
If internet flash games count, definitely Curse of the Chocolate Fountain. Oh god.
What did you dislike about Just Cause 2?
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Post by: Palindrome
Chaos Gate
It works under Vista and 7 at least if you do some tweeking.
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Post by: purplefood
It doesn't really work...
Still freezes and crashes a lot.
You have to save all the time.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I remember the Chaos Gate thread we had here.
Details a few of the issues with running it on newer systems.
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Post by: Platuan4th
That's a lie. It didn't even work on the system it was designed for.
Chaos Gate was awesome, or would have been if the game didn't consistently crash or freeze at the most inopportune moments.
Or at opportune ones.
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Post by: purplefood
Even with the freezing it's still pretty awesome.
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Post by: Necroshea
Without a doubt resident evil 6. It took all of my will power to make it through Leons campaign, but after that I had no strength left. Especially after fighting the same boss what felt like 10 times.
Also, no tutorial whatsoever. I go through the entire game without knowing you can go akimbo style with pistols. There's absolutely nothing in the game that clues you in that you can do this, save for a cinematic towards the end of his campaign.
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Post by: Tigurius
Necroshea wrote:Without a doubt resident evil 6. It took all of my will power to make it through Leons campaign, but after that I had no strength left. Especially after fighting the same boss what felt like 10 times.
Also, no tutorial whatsoever. I go through the entire game without knowing you can go akimbo style with pistols. There's absolutely nothing in the game that clues you in that you can do this, save for a cinematic towards the end of his campaign.
You can?!
I played completed all the campaigns, twice. And I never knew that :/
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Post by: Necroshea
Yeah, I don't remember what it is anymore, but there's a button you press to pull out the other pistol.
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Post by: Chris_P
Soldner.... it was a game similar to how the ARMA games are now but the developers just couldn't pull off the execution of their grand ideas thus rendering it awful.
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Post by: RatBot
Off the top of my head, probably Daikatana, or possibly some Free to play Korean MMO. I messed around with a couple but I can't think of any specifically, but they were all pretty bad.
One day I hope to be able to play Limbo of the Lost.
Here's a text-based "Let's Play" showing that, not only is it chock full of plagiarism, but it's also a really, really awful game! http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?400406-In-which-I-play-Limbo-of-the-Lost-(warning-Picture-intensive)
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Post by: Melissia
RatBot wrote:some Free to play Korean MMO. I messed around with a couple but I can't think of any specifically, but they were all pretty bad.
Rising Force Online.
Also known as "Grinding: The Game". With a really bizarre trailer.
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Post by: RatBot
I actually don't think I ever tried that one. Knight Online and 4Story are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They were both equally boring and terrible, but since all F2P Korean MMOs seem to be more or less the same, I absolutely believe you when you say Rising Force Online qualifies.
EDIT: Decided to add a video of Limbo of the Lost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj0S_IMKrZs
Astoundingly awful and it only gets worse and worse.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
RatBot wrote:I actually don't think I ever tried that one. Knight Online and 4Story are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They were both equally boring and terrible, but since all F2P Korean MMOs seem to be more or less the same, I absolutely believe you when you say Rising Force Online qualifies.
EDIT: Decided to add a video of Limbo of the Lost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj0S_IMKrZs
Astoundingly awful and it only gets worse and worse.
Dungeon Fighter Online was actually pretty good, the American Version by Nexon actually made the grinding WORSE then the Koreans (Nexon being one of the WORST porting companies for their greed..)
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