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Post by: STC_LogisEngine
So, saw this one hiding in the mix, looks like a new Terminator Captain rocking a Relicblade and Stormbolter.
From this vidio at 1:59 / 2:19 ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDcX8a-9uA
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Post by: Hanskrampf
Looks really nice. I love Terminators and will definetely get one. I just hope he comes with a ton of weapon options and isn't another monopose model.
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Post by: alphaecho
Second that. I'd prefer it to be like the Chaos Lord/ Sorceror Terminator.
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Post by: Fireball
Looks solid ...some weapons options would be nice
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Post by: Azazelx
I wonder if it'll be in the 7th Edition box?
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Post by: STC_LogisEngine
Probably along the lines of the new SM Librarian, I'd call it a high probability for the torso (or some part of it) being fixed to the legs.
Nothing a few strokes with a hobby-saw won't fix. 
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Nice catch.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Of course, right after I finish a kitbash of Belial...
That's a nice model though.
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Post by: Sasori
Could this be indicative of a new starter set, after all?
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Sasori wrote:Could this be indicative of a new starter set, after all?
Personally, I don't think so.
I think it might be indicative of more monopose plastics though.
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Post by: Kosake
Sasori wrote:Could this be indicative of a new starter set, after all?
Nah, its definitely from a new Space Hulk box, where BA are fighting orks instead of gene-stealers :-p
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Post by: Squidbot
It's probably going to be another web order exclusive, at a guess.
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Post by: insaniak
According to White Dwarf, the 7th Ed box is Dark Vengeance with the new rulebook swapped in, so probably not.
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Post by: alphaecho
 Kosake wrote: Sasori wrote:Could this be indicative of a new starter set, after all?
Nah, its definitely from a new Space Hulk box, where BA are fighting orks instead of gene-stealers :-p
Careful, you'll be added to the Rumour Tracker!
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Post by: Kosake
alphaecho wrote: Kosake wrote: Sasori wrote:Could this be indicative of a new starter set, after all?
Nah, its definitely from a new Space Hulk box, where BA are fighting orks instead of gene-stealers :-p
Careful, you'll be added to the Rumour Tracker!
Wouldn't want that to happen... at least, as long as I'm making stuff up on the fly.
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Post by: Henshini
Too bad terminators cant take a relic blade.
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Post by: streamdragon
I'm confused. A captain in terminator armor can't take a relic blade?
Or are we confusing terminator captain ( HQ character choice) and terminator sergeant (stormbolter/Power Sword, leads dudes with power fists)?
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Post by: Henshini
Terminator captains, nor chapter masters in terminator armour can take relic blades. No models I can find in the SM codex can have both terminator armour and a relic blade.
You could use it as a terminator captain/chapter master with the Burning Blade.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Fullscreened the video in 1080p and took a bigger screenshot:
I dig him. I hope there's some weapon options. I guess it's about time we give his venerable predecessor some rest:
Still one of my favorite Space Marine sculpts; I might need to get one just because.
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Post by: Nevelon
While ornate, it looks like a power sword to me. The haft/hilt just has space for one hand. Relic blades are more hand and a half or two handed.
Could be played as either, certainly. I suspect it was just the sculptor wanting to make something cool.
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Post by: Gorlack
Could be a limited edition model from the revamped Dark Vengance like the Chaplain from when they last launched that boxed set.
A little extra something-something to say sorry for no new starter. Perhaps.
But don't add me to the tracker! 
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Post by: sing your life
That's a really great model. Defiantly getting the SH style.
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Post by: Sir Samuel Buca
I'm in love with this model...
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Post by: Sir Arun
woah his robe looks chaosy
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Post by: Brother SRM
 Nevelon wrote:While ornate, it looks like a power sword to me. The haft/hilt just has space for one hand. Relic blades are more hand and a half or two handed.
Could be played as either, certainly. I suspect it was just the sculptor wanting to make something cool.
Terminator characters can't take relic blades. Even Chapter Masters in Terminator armor can only take wargear from certain lists.
 Gorlack wrote:Could be a limited edition model from the revamped Dark Vengance like the Chaplain from when they last launched that boxed set.
A little extra something-something to say sorry for no new starter. Perhaps.
But don't add me to the tracker!
I doubt it. There's nothing Dark Angel-centric about him at all, and the Dark Angels already have Belial. He'd just cannibalize sales of that kit if he was all blinged out like a Dark Angel. That or he's looking a little blue for the Deathwing
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Post by: Gorlack
Haha of course you're right actually forgot it was Dark Angels and not just generic marines - it's been so long since I've seen a DA player
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Post by: sockwithaticket
If only he didn't have a cape... or that weird table ornament on his back... and possessed some actual command iconography like the skull headed eagle with a halo that his predecessor sports on the right greave.
Bar that it's perfectly passable.
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Post by: Brother SRM
I think capes are cool on command models (so long as they don't have jump packs) but yeah, I'm not a fan of the odd centerpiece on his back. I'd just swap that out with the regular Iron Halo from the Terminator and commander boxes, or a banner because I like those.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Given that 'Exterminatus' is 40K-ese for the wholesale cleansing of a world, it's an odd thing to write on a sword, no?
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Post by: Vain
 JohnnyHell wrote:Given that 'Exterminatus' is 40K-ese for the wholesale cleansing of a world, it's an odd thing to write on a sword, no?
What? Have you never destroyed a whole world with just a power sword?
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Post by: JohnnyHell
 Vain wrote: JohnnyHell wrote:Given that 'Exterminatus' is 40K-ese for the wholesale cleansing of a world, it's an odd thing to write on a sword, no?
What? Have you never destroyed a whole world with just a power sword?
That would smell horribly like bragging if I said I had...
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Post by: Nevelon
I like the name on the sword. Sure, it might be over the top, but this is 40k. And while it might not be world-clensing exterminatus, if you are close enough to read what’s on the blade, it’s enough to cleanse you from the face of the planet.
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Post by: STC_LogisEngine
No relicblades on terminatorcaptains this codex? well that's just silly, how did they figure that one out? I mean you can buy the guy one while wearing power/artificier armor... so it's not like the 2+ save is some kind of a disqualifier. 
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Post by: Divine_Tyranny
Looks cool, I'm rather a fan of well executed understanded characters
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Post by: Yodhrin
It'll be another "spend mondobucks on our webstore rather than those 'orrible indie retailers with their vile discountery, and you too can own this Incredibly Special Unique Space Marine(tm) Captain(tm) in Terminator(tm) Armour!(model is not unique, we may not actually own any of the trademarks we have just claimed, GW PLC will not be held legally liable for any heart attacks, falling-related injuries, or other accidental or health effects caused by the realisation that you've just wasted a load of cash to get a model that is only limited because we are artificially imposing scarcity despite making the model in a material and using a process designed for mass-production)" affair no doubt.
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Post by: Backfire
Nice. Old 2nd edition Termie captain needed to be put out to pastures. Better pose than Belial.
I only worry about the price - if monopose Power armour characters are 25 euros apiece, hope this one is not €30... 
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Post by: chochky
Nevelon wrote:I like the name on the sword. Sure, it might be over the top, but this is 40k. And while it might not be world-clensing exterminatus, if you are close enough to read what’s on the blade, it’s enough to cleanse you from the face of the planet.
Why name your sword Excalibur when you can name it Exterminatus instead? 
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Post by: Bolognesus
Vain wrote: JohnnyHell wrote:Given that 'Exterminatus' is 40K-ese for the wholesale cleansing of a world, it's an odd thing to write on a sword, no?
What? Have you never destroyed a whole world with just a power sword?
Hey man, anything's possible, just put your mind to it
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Post by: insaniak
Backfire wrote:Nice. Old 2nd edition Termie captain needed to be put out to pastures.
The current model (posted earlier in the thread) is from 3rd ed, not 2nd. 2nd ed had Terminator Librarian and Chaplain releases, but no Captain.
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Post by: WrentheFaceless
Little moding and that would make a nice Grey Knight Grandmaster model
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Post by: ZultanQ
You're right, that's odd. Looks like the mark of Chao Undivided on his loin cloth. Oh GW, you so crazy.
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Post by: insaniak
 ZultanQ wrote:
You're right, that's odd. Looks like the mark of Chao Undivided on his loin cloth. Oh GW, you so crazy.
Looks more like an Iron Halo to me.
The Chaos Undivided symbols is a full circle with eight points, not a semicircle with 7.
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Post by: ZultanQ
 insaniak wrote: ZultanQ wrote:
You're right, that's odd. Looks like the mark of Chao Undivided on his loin cloth. Oh GW, you so crazy.
Looks more like an Iron Halo to me.
The Chaos Undivided symbols is a full circle with eight points, not a semicircle with 7.
True, it's just that the spidery arrows aesthetic is sort of a Chaos thing. If I was an Inquisitor I would be investigating this captain on two accounts of heresy:
1) that suspicious Chaos-esque aesthetic
2) that atrocious haircut
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Post by: Kanluwen
ZultanQ wrote: insaniak wrote: ZultanQ wrote:
You're right, that's odd. Looks like the mark of Chao Undivided on his loin cloth. Oh GW, you so crazy.
Looks more like an Iron Halo to me.
The Chaos Undivided symbols is a full circle with eight points, not a semicircle with 7.
True, it's just that the spidery arrows aesthetic is sort of a Chaos thing. If I was an Inquisitor I would be investigating this captain on two accounts of heresy:
1) that suspicious Chaos-esque aesthetic
2) that atrocious haircut
It's just fancy trim/a painter showing off.
If you look at the Company Master and Librarian in Dark Vengeance they have similar going on.
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Post by: insaniak
ZultanQ wrote:True, it's just that the spidery arrows aesthetic is sort of a Chaos thing.
Except when it isn't.
Seriously, compare the design on his loincloth to the iron halo on the power-armour captain.
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Post by: Puscifer
I seriously hope he's a multi part kit like the Chaos one.
At the same time though, I hope not. I'm making a killing on commissions for Belial and generic SM Terminator Captains.
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Post by: Syphid
insaniak wrote:Backfire wrote:Nice. Old 2nd edition Termie captain needed to be put out to pastures.
The current model (posted earlier in the thread) is from 3rd ed, not 2nd. 2nd ed had Terminator Librarian and Chaplain releases, but no Captain.
Wasn't there this guy?
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Post by: Snrub
Noticed this at 1:50.
Psychic power that lets you control enemy unit/s for 'x' amount of turns?
Maybe nids get allies?
Cowardly guardsmen?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That's a 1st Ed Termy.
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Post by: insaniak
Syphid wrote: insaniak wrote:Backfire wrote:Nice. Old 2nd edition Termie captain needed to be put out to pastures.
The current model (posted earlier in the thread) is from 3rd ed, not 2nd. 2nd ed had Terminator Librarian and Chaplain releases, but no Captain.
Wasn't there this guy?
As HBMC said, he was from Rogue Trader.
May have been still available for a while during 2nd ed, although I don't recall ever seeing him in the shops down here. Most people just converted Terminator Sergeants to use as Captains during 2nd.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
insaniak wrote:May have been still available for a while during 2nd ed, although I don't recall ever seeing him in the shops down here. Most people just converted Terminator Sergeants to use as Captains during 2nd.
Oh he certainly was. He was one of the first separate models I bought after getting Tyranid Attack. Him, the original Assault Cannon Termy and the original Cyclone Termy (with the tiny shoulder launchers!).
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Post by: Medium of Death
I hope he's just a regular stock item like his Chaos equivalent.
Slightly OT, but I wonder if we'll see some more new miniatures specifically for this new release. I was browsing the range and remembered the new Space Wolf on Thunderwolf model has a TS Marine styled like the old 2nd ed(?) Version, but brought up to today's standards. It seems strange they've not followed up on that.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Maybe the Captain will be another Web Store Exclusive that you can only get by pre-ordering the new ruelbooks. Of course if that's true then GW will have taken everything that is bad about the modern video game industry and made it their own. 
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Post by: TiamatRoar
 Snrub wrote:Noticed this at 1:50.
Psychic power that lets you control enemy unit/s for 'x' amount of turns?
Maybe nids get allies?
Cowardly guardsmen?
Isn't the current rumour that "Come the Apocalypse" will mean "Can ally together with VERY steep penalties"?
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Post by: Kosake
Hm... does GW gets some sort of blue-balls-syndrome or something if they don't release something for space marines at least once per month? Honestly, You'd think there are no other factions.
As for the Iron halo and the spikes on the cape: I think those are freehand paint and not modelled on, unlike the laurels and ornate scrolls on every surface, so definitely not a chaos-combikit. Also, there is a chaos warlord in terminator armor, isn't there?
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Post by: Darth Bob
I dig him. He looks awesome. I'm really glad that they aren't making the skull-scabbard a thing that's going to persist on the Space Marine models.
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Post by: angelofvengeance
I smell a Belial conversion cause the current model is awful.
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Post by: Nevelon
 Darth Bob wrote:I dig him. He looks awesome. I'm really glad that they aren't making the skull-scabbard a thing that's going to persist on the Space Marine models.
And they had a very good reason to use the skull scabbard on this guy. The RT terminator captain was also packing one. So if they wanted to do another retro throwback mini, they should include it.
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Post by: angryboy2k
 STC_LogisEngine wrote:No relicblades on terminatorcaptains this codex? well that's just silly, how did they figure that one out? I mean you can buy the guy one while wearing power/artificier armor... so it's not like the 2+ save is some kind of a disqualifier.
I think it's because terminators (like infants) can't actually touch their hands together, making them incapable of using a two-handed weapon like a relic blade.
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Post by: Nevelon
angryboy2k wrote: STC_LogisEngine wrote:No relicblades on terminatorcaptains this codex? well that's just silly, how did they figure that one out? I mean you can buy the guy one while wearing power/artificier armor... so it's not like the 2+ save is some kind of a disqualifier.
I think it's because terminators (like infants) can't actually touch their hands together, making them incapable of using a two-handed weapon like a relic blade.
Grey Knight terminators would like a word with you. 
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Post by: Sir Samuel Buca
Nevelon wrote:angryboy2k wrote: STC_LogisEngine wrote:No relicblades on terminatorcaptains this codex? well that's just silly, how did they figure that one out? I mean you can buy the guy one while wearing power/artificier armor... so it's not like the 2+ save is some kind of a disqualifier.
I think it's because terminators (like infants) can't actually touch their hands together, making them incapable of using a two-handed weapon like a relic blade.
Grey Knight terminators would like a word with you.
As would the Deathwing Champion...
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Post by: Zwan1One
Surely part of the point of wearing terminator armour is the ability to wield a two-handed weapon single handedly?
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Post by: RedFox
Games-worskhop.com updated with the new rulebook pre-order and no web-store exclusive to be found
hoping it will pop-up tomorrow, if not, it's probable just a normal plastic terminator captain release
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Post by: Zweischneid
The White Dwarf bills the Terminator as Ultramarines First Captain Agemman
http://pinsofwar.com/mystery-terminator-is-ultramarines-first-captain-agemman/
Seems different to the web-exclusive Captains, if it's truly sold as new Special Character
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Severus_Agemman
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Post by: puma713
Reminds me of this guy, from back in the day:
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Post by: sing your life
This model+ Belial arms would be brill conversion.
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Post by: Legio Ultra
I kind of believe that if it was Agemman, he would have more Ultramarines iconography sculpted on his armour. So it would be more likely he is just a generc SM Terminator Captain. And very nice mini btw though he big frying-pan thing over his head is kind of awkward...maybe just replace it with the eagle like that from the sternguard kit.
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Post by: Platuan4th
I refuse to believe it purely on the grounds that Agemman isn't Agemman without the Plasmablaster. Edit: Woops, confusing Invictus and Agemman.
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Post by: Theophony
 Legio Ultra wrote:I kind of believe that if it was Agemman, he would have more Ultramarines iconography sculpted on his armour. So it would be more likely he is just a generc SM Terminator Captain. And very nice mini btw though he big frying-pan thing over his head is kind of awkward...maybe just replace it with the eagle like that from the sternguard kit.
My first impression of it was he was the first Jewish captain in terminator armor and strode into battle with a minorah on his suit. Then I realized it was an over stylized iro halo.
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Post by: Kelly502
 Brother SRM wrote:Fullscreened the video in 1080p and took a bigger screenshot:
I dig him. I hope there's some weapon options. I guess it's about time we give his venerable predecessor some rest:
Still one of my favorite Space Marine sculpts; I might need to get one just because.
Thanks for the close up! Nice model!
Mono-pose, well, remember metals? They were all mono-pose, plastics are just easier to work with IMO.
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Post by: Kosake
I wonder whether GW is planning on to release every single ultramarine as a special character, starting from the remaining captains and down to the last servitor.
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Post by: mitch_rifle
Some non ultramrine characters would be cool
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Post by: zachwho
that third edition captain is one of my all time favorites!
really like the new guy alot too, hopefully hes plastic with other head options!
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Post by: insaniak
Given that the 'Ultramarine' on this guy is just the point job, that's pretty much what you're getting...
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Thanks for the close up! Nice model!
Mono-pose, well, remember metals? They were all mono-pose, plastics are just easier to work with IMO.
Also, plastics have the "bonus" of being much more expensive. I shudder to think what a Terminator figure will cost compared to the other new SM monopose characters, considering what they are priced at...
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Post by: Zognob Gorgoff
im hoping its a loyalist version of the chaos sm character kit as I can see gw pushing psychic characters after the new ed is out
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Post by: reds8n
Model is on the front cover of this week WD, so should be out soon then.
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Post by: Kosake
insaniak wrote:
Given that the 'Ultramarine' on this guy is just the point job, that's pretty much what you're getting...
Then it's a model, not a character. Other factions don't have that many special characters in the first place and just using the model for other purposes is no different to me naming my AOBR Waaaghboss "Duke Gitbasha", not giving me more options ruleswise. A new model is fine and dandy, but I don't think that SM lack in either, models or characters compared to other factions.
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Post by: alphaecho
I think there's been some misunderstanding based on the Captain being listed as Agemman in the Rule Book article featured in WD.
As far as I'm aware there has been nothing to indicate a new UM character and I'm sure if Agemman was released, the model would be dripping in Ultrabling. Maybe even with an accompanying 'Jealous Sicarius' model.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 reds8n wrote:Model is on the front cover of this week WD, so should be out soon then.
Of course, I just finished a Belial conversion.
You know the rules. When someone finishes a conversion and hopes for a "generic kit to work from", you have under a month until their dream kit releases.
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Post by: BrookM
Still no Rough Riders though.
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Post by: dienekes96
So the rumor at B&C is that this guy is available with some 155 pound Ultramarine army bundle. Since he is not Ultra blinged out, I have to assume he will be available outside of an UM deal at some point. Anyone with an early look at the WD, can you confirm (or deny)?
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Post by: tbrassf2
My source tells me-
Strike Force Ultra
$325 USD
2 boxes assault termie
2 boxes Regular Termie
1 limited ed termie capt
1 land raider crusader
1 Storm raven
1 ven dreadnought
EDIT - Removed image at request of my source.
There is also a Scion Box Set
285$ USD
2 Taurox
1 Valk
5 Scion Squads
1 Commisar
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Post by: dienekes96
Thanks. I was ready to drop a relatively crazy $30 for a single figure clampack. But the Captain would need to look better than Space Hulk's Sergeant Lorenzo for me to consider doing something that absurd. And it's not even close.
Oh well. $30 in my pocket.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah. If they want money for that thing then they need to sell it, not cram it into a discount-less bundle.
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Post by: Kosake
 H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah. If they want money for that thing then they need to sell it, not cram it into a discount-less bundle.
Actually, GW still supports the good old traditions of the hobby - scratchbuilding, improvisation, honing your arts and crafts skills. Their pricing policy is necessary to force spoiled brats to learn things like silicon moulding, recasting, the manifold uses of plasticard and how to divert household utensils for terrain construction. 
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Kosake wrote:Actually, GW still supports the good old traditions of the hobby - scratchbuilding, improvisation, honing your arts and crafts skills. Their pricing policy is necessary to force spoiled brats to learn things like silicon moulding, recasting, the manifold uses of plasticard and how to divert household utensils for terrain construction.
Nonsense. WD has taught me that all battles - every single one of them - happen on a Realm™ of™ Battle™ Board™ covered in Official™ Citadel™ Scenery™. Are you saying WD has been lying to me?
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Post by: Kosake
H.B.M.C. wrote: Kosake wrote:Actually, GW still supports the good old traditions of the hobby - scratchbuilding, improvisation, honing your arts and crafts skills. Their pricing policy is necessary to force spoiled brats to learn things like silicon moulding, recasting, the manifold uses of plasticard and how to divert household utensils for terrain construction.
Nonsense. WD has taught me that all battles - every single one of them - happen on a Realm™ of™ Battle™ Board™ covered in Official™ Citadel™ Scenery™. Are you saying WD has been lying to me?
I think it's a clever ruse to make people rely less on prefabricated stuff and support creativity and inspirational craft. GW loves us and the hobby after all...
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Post by: Squidbot
Found on the web.
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Post by: angelofvengeance
Thank frak this model doesn't have all that Ultra-bling on him.. He's getting Belialised for sure!
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Post by: Squidbot
Another:
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Post by: andrewm9
 angelofvengeance wrote:
Thank frak this model doesn't have all that Ultra-bling on him.. He's getting Belialised for sure!
Why? Belial already has a functional plastic model with options no less.
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Post by: Nevelon
tbrassf2 wrote:My source tells me-
Strike Force Ultra
$325 USD
2 boxes assault termie 2x @ $50
2 boxes Regular Termie 2x @ $50
1 limited ed termie capt @ ??
1 land raider crusader @ $74.25
1 Storm raven @ $82.50
1 ven dreadnought @ $46.25
So that’s $403 without the Captain. So roughly a 20% savings. If you count the captain at $30, it goes up to around 25%. For about a 1,650 point army. No troops, but that’s OK if going unbound. Or you could go for a two box army and grab this and the SM strikefoce. $225 + $325 = $550 for a solid 3,000 point army.
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Post by: Rick_1138
Oh don't tell me to get a decent plastic SM character I HAVE to spend some £200 :( I just want him and would happily pay £18.
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Post by: kronk
Why aren't they making a plastic Terminator Captain/Librarian/Chaplain box ALA the Plastic Chaos Terminator Lord/Sorcerer box?
Makes no sense.
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Post by: Snrub
Why does it look like he's chomping on a bit?
Horsius, 1st Captain of Ultramareines.
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Post by: Nevelon
 kronk wrote:Why aren't they making a plastic Terminator Captain/Librarian/Chaplain box ALA the Plastic Chaos Terminator Lord/Sorcerer box?
Makes no sense.
While mono-pose, all the models are available separately, so there is no need to fill out the range. Without a business driven need, I can only assume that none of the sculptors want to do it, and the studio is focusing on other projects, so isn’t making them. And some of the terminator HQs are quite good looking. The chaplain normally shows up when people start a “best looking mini” thread. Librarian is not bad either.
It’s not that I don’t want to see a box like that, our doubt that it would sell reasonably well. But at some point a bean counter over at GW probably thought time and effort would be better spent elsewhere. I suspect we won’t see them done in plastic until GW is farther along the road of all plastic, all the time.
Just my guesses...
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Post by: ahzek
This comes in the new space marine strikeforce box with a ton of terminators, a stormraven and crusader
I'm disappointed the weapons are a bit pants
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Post by: Squidbot
Snrub wrote:Why does it look like he's chomping on a bit?
Horsius, 1st Captain of Ultramareines.
Have an exalt.
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Post by: JWBS
Nevelon wrote: kronk wrote:Why aren't they making a plastic Terminator Captain/Librarian/Chaplain box ALA the Plastic Chaos Terminator Lord/Sorcerer box?
Makes no sense.
While mono-pose, all the models are available separately, so there is no need to fill out the range. Without a business driven need, I can only assume that none of the sculptors want to do it, and the studio is focusing on other projects, so isn’t making them. And some of the terminator HQs are quite good looking. The chaplain normally shows up when people start a “best looking mini” thread. Librarian is not bad either.
It’s not that I don’t want to see a box like that, our doubt that it would sell reasonably well. But at some point a bean counter over at GW probably thought time and effort would be better spent elsewhere. I suspect we won’t see them done in plastic until GW is farther along the road of all plastic, all the time.
Just my guesses...
I don't think "We've got too many of this it'll be redundant and we're better off investing resources in other stuff" is a valid component of the GW Spase Marines equation.
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Post by: TheFireDrake
I like him, pretty cool!
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Post by: Bull0
Sticking the plastic marine terminator captain we've been asking for for years in a £200 box set with a load of terminators everyone already has is a complete dick move, GW. Assuming it isn't also available solo. I really doubt it is.
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Post by: Art Steventon
andrewm9 wrote: angelofvengeance wrote:
Thank frak this model doesn't have all that Ultra-bling on him.. He's getting Belialised for sure!
Why? Belial already has a functional plastic model with options no less.
That's my laptop - amazingly I only took those images during my lunchtime today :-D
There's no mention that the Captain is going to be available separately which is a shame.
There's also a Scions army box being released next weekend.
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Post by: Platuan4th
 Kanluwen wrote: reds8n wrote:Model is on the front cover of this week WD, so should be out soon then.
Of course, I just finished a Belial conversion.P
Should've converted one years before like I did, huh?
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Post by: warboss
kronk wrote:Why aren't they making a plastic Terminator Captain/Librarian/Chaplain box ALA the Plastic Chaos Terminator Lord/Sorcerer box? Makes no sense.
Because they think that they offer too much value to have all those extra bits? Maybe they think they'll sell 3 individual models at around 66% of the price for double the profit instead if they instead focus on monopose stuff. Buying is the most important and enjoyable part of the Hobby so they're just trying to be nice to all the customers.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
kronk wrote:Why aren't they making a plastic Terminator Captain/Librarian/Chaplain box ALA the Plastic Chaos Terminator Lord/Sorcerer box?
Makes no sense.
When's the last time they made a mini like that?
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Post by: Darth Bob
That's really crappy if he's not available separately. I really like the model but not enough to spend that much money. Hopefully he won't be too ludicrously expensive on the aftermarket.
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Post by: Nevelon
The plastic chaplain is still bundled with the reclusiam command squad. It’s a less expensive bundle, but no signs of getting him separate. I’d not hold my breath on this captain.
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Post by: Art Steventon
Just re-read my WD;
"The Terminator Captain is a brand new plastic model available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"
Oh, and the cost of the box is £190 / €245 / $325(us)
There's a Stormraven in the box as well….
The Scions box I mentioned is 25 Scions, 1 Commissar, A Valkyrie and 2 Taurox for £175.
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Post by: jason2250
The only real question is; is the box limited run or not?
If it is a limited run, I expect them to be big money.
If not, there are plenty of people who break those boxes down to sell. This just means you're about to see other models from this box go down in price on the grey market. All the models from this box will go down in price.
Right now I am torn; I have all the Terminators I need for my Deathwing Army, but I could use this to start building a successor, or as additional bodies for my Crimson Fists, either way is a win for me. But if it's not a limited run box, I have no need of the models outside of the one, and will find him there.
We'll see.
Paul
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Art Steventon wrote:"The Terminator Captain is a brand new plastic model available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"
Well. Forget that then. 
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Post by: Kosake
Hm... Crusaders cheaper? Sounds good to me.
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Post by: Rick_1138
I am very tempted by this, especially with the good will voucher GW gave. But I do have a LOT of stuff sitting glaring at me from the 'unmade' pile, however I am toying with the idea of a terminator heavy Templar army with crusader squads in crusader LR's to basically own objectives.
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Post by: alphaecho
H.B.M.C. wrote: Art Steventon wrote:"The Terminator Captain is a brand new plastic model available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"
Well. Forget that then.
No spare organs to sell then?
I'm quite disgusted by this new technique. Well, not that new but previous exclusive models in army boxes tended to be another version of a veteran Sergeant or a Captain variant.
To take something like a new plastic Terminator Captain and hide it away in an expensive bundle is really starting to smell of desparation. I guess I'll continue with my converted from a Black Reach Terminator captain to lead my 1st Company.
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Post by: Squidbot
I'm guessing bits companies will have him.
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Post by: Rick_1138
alphaecho wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: Art Steventon wrote:"The Terminator Captain is a brand new plastic model available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"
Well. Forget that then.
No spare organs to sell then?
I'm quite disgusted by this new technique. Well, not that new but previous exclusive models in army boxes tended to be another version of a veteran Sergeant or a Captain variant.
To take something like a new plastic Terminator Captain and hide it away in an expensive bundle is really starting to smell of desparation. I guess I'll continue with my converted from a Black Reach Terminator captain to lead my 1st Company.
TBF to GW though, this was standard practice for years when a new army came out, a metal Ltd ed character\ HQ unit was in the spearhead box, and was usually clamoured for massively on Ebay.
Many lamented the loss of the bundle only special figure and this is just GW bringing it back as many liked the idea. I also am toying with the idea of terminators as an army, so if I sell my current army on ebay for £200 (over £400 of stuff so I am being conservative) then its paid for.
And they will turn up on ebay. The other issue is, if this is a ltd release then the term commander will appear in a clamshell soon enough, if this strike force is a regular box then we wont.
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Post by: prowla
I'm thinking the Captain will probably appear in cheaper bundles or will be sold alone, along the way. That bundle is too expensive to sell well based on just one extra mini. This is just a "be first to get him!" moneygrab.
There probably will be a '1st Company Veteran Squad' bundle, 1-2 termi boxes and the Captain. Maybe they'll come up with regular Termi Command Squad, á la DA terminators. Just hoping they don't put a LR in it
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Post by: whalemusic360
Man, I really want that dude, but not $325 want him.
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Post by: Theophony
Clearly GW has hired the best marketing talents from the comic book industry 20 years ago.
1. If something sells decently, clone it and tweak it just a bit, but make it more powerful  =       
2. Make limited editions of EVERYTHING (codex, bl books, hoodies )
3. Pimp your ip to anyone with a dollar (every video game out there they are making)
4. Crossovers=apokalypse......unbound
And we know how the comic industry did back then.
GW, just sell us the basics like you used to 
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Post by: Kanluwen
Worth mentioning is this:
The Terminator Captain comes with two bare heads, one scowling from behind a rebreather while the other sports a bionic eye.
There are also hints in the main page that the Terminator Captain will be available separately.
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Post by: Backfire
Yeah, the website doesn't exactly say that he's exclusive for the Strike Force...only that it's the fastest way to get him.
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Post by: dienekes96
The language certainly makes it seem like he will be available in another fashion later. They usually trumpet exclusivity pretty onerously, and there is no such point made here.
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Post by: Brother SRM
The other big plastic force they released with all the Stormtroopers and the Commissar doesn't contain an exclusive model either, so there's kind of some precedent there too.
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Post by: Bull0
 dienekes96 wrote:The language certainly makes it seem like he will be available in another fashion later. They usually trumpet exclusivity pretty onerously, and there is no such point made here.
Yeah, there would almost certainly be a big banner with Limited Edition plastered over the whole thing. I'm holding out some hope...
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Post by: Commander Cain
Let's face it. He will be released separately and only cost a meager $60 or something!
Amazed that they didn't make a multipart captain/librarian thing. Would have snapped that up in an instant...
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Post by: Nevelon
Anyone pick up the dataslate for this box? Wondering if there are special wacky rules.
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Post by: dienekes96
Or any pictures of the other head?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Surprisingly they did not put ANY pictures of the alternate head up.
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Post by: dienekes96
Well then either it is a LOT better or a LOT worse. I'll hope for the former, because the rebreather head isn't particularly interesting.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I think the rebreather head isn't too bad; it's just terribly painted.
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Post by: ChaosxVoid
Kanluwen wrote:I think the rebreather head isn't too bad; it's just terribly painted.
kinda looks like eminem in a mask the way its painted huh..
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Post by: gianlucafiorentini123
ChaosxVoid wrote: Kanluwen wrote:I think the rebreather head isn't too bad; it's just terribly painted.
kinda looks like eminem in a mask the way its painted huh..
Shouting at CSM ''I'ma kill you!''.
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Post by: Nicky J
Kanluwen wrote:
Surprisingly they did not put ANY pictures of the alternate head up.
Yeah, no pic of the sprue either, which is annoying - I like to be able to see what parts it comes in, so I can work out conversion ideas
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Post by: shabbadoo
Somewhere, a few days back, somebody posted that White Dwarf stated that the TDA Captain miniature would be limited to this deal only. Hopefully that person was full of crap, but we really don't see these types of comments ever being mistakes. Doesn't mean that GW can't change their mind though. Perhaps we'll see the limited return of the Interrogator-Chaplin Seraphicus miniature in the revamped Dark Vengeance boxed set (rumored to come out in August or so) too, but that isn't based on any sort of rumor so don't get your hopes up.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 shabbadoo wrote:Somewhere, a few days back, somebody posted that White Dwarf stated that the TDA Captain miniature would be limited to this deal only. Hopefully that person was full of crap, but we really don't see these types of comments ever being mistakes. Doesn't mean that GW can't change their mind though. Perhaps we'll see the limited return of the Interrogator-Chaplin Seraphicus miniature in the revamped Dark Vengeance boxed set (rumored to come out in August or so) too, but that isn't based on any sort of rumor so don't get your hopes up.
I have the White Dwarf, and all it says is that he is "available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"...which doesn't necessarily mean anything as the GW website says something to the effect of "this is the fastest way to get the new Terminator Captain".
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Post by: shabbadoo
Yes, we know that now. The website does seem to give the impression that the mini will be available later on in some way. Hopefully that is how things turn out.
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Post by: Sir Samuel Buca
I think GW are on to a good thing if he comes out on his own.
He weilds a relic blade, he can fit a helmet in, his gun arm is totally swappable and he's full of character. This guy will be a huge seller, in my opinion.
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Post by: Legio Ultra
Well since all of the models are slowly but steadily turning to plastic, I think that even if he doesn't come out on his own, GW will make a plastic Terminator Captain sooner rather than later. Maybe not this one though
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Post by: midget_overlord
The wording does make us beleive that the terminator captain will be available seperatly at a later date, but if you look at the chapain box set with the command squad, the wording is quite similar.
That box been out for a long time, and i'm still waiting to get ithe chaplain seperatly. So don't hold your breath for the termi captain.
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Post by: TheFireDrake
I do hope he come sout on his own. I do want him, however im sure it is only the case because he is so exclusive.
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Post by: The Division Of Joy
I'll have him in the next week or so. I'm more interested in the rest of the box, so he's yours for 50 quid haha
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Kanluwen wrote:I have the White Dwarf, and all it says is that he is "available exclusively as part of Space Marines Strike Force Ultra"...which doesn't necessarily mean anything as the GW website says something to the effect of "this is the fastest way to get the new Terminator Captain".
The website says this:
Strike Force Ultra is a fearsome deployment of Terminators. These First Company veterans are led by a brand new, never before seen plastic Terminator Captain. Supported by a trio of heavily armoured fighting vehicles and equipped with the deadliest weapons their Chapter can provide, this boxed set is a formidable army in its own right. Stike Force Ultra would also make an excellent addition to an existing Space Marine collection.
This all-plastic boxed set contains 1 Terminator Captain, 10 Space Marine Terminators, 10 Space Marine Assault Terminators, 1 Venerable Dreadnaught, 1 Stormraven Gunship and 1 Land Raider Crusader.
All the units in this boxed set come with a selection of weapons options, enabling you to tailor them to your needs. The Terminator Captain comes with two bare heads, one scowling from behind a rebreather while the other sports a bionic eye.
So maybe the WD means exactly what it says.
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Post by: mattyrm
Good eyes, get your sniper chit in!
Great model too. I love everything about terminators, the BA from SH won me over, I've took an interest in every TDA kit they have made since.
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Post by: haroon
Nevelon wrote:Anyone pick up the dataslate for this box? Wondering if there are special wacky rules.
Any one? I would settle for the rules are really good or they are aren't great. Anything!
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Post by: Crazyterran
I wonder if it'll have rules for Agemman in the formation? Hmm...
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Post by: Rick_1138
I will let you know when it turns up next week
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Post by: George L.
Looks a bit like the 2009 space hulk captain. Pretty cool mini
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Post by: Josey4u
Paint him in bleach bone and and we have a leader! Ahhhh yes, back when deathwing was an army. And here we are, yet again.
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