Alpharius wrote: I know it's all cool and trendy to hate on Coldplay and all that, but I thought the entire halftime show was pretty good - as far as halftime shows go.
And yes, that's a fairly low bar to step over...
I normally am not too hard on Coldplay, but their performance just seemed so low key and slow compared to Mars' and Beyonce's. It felt like they were two entirely different shows, and only one show got the energy.
Honestly, my favorite part of the halftime show was Beyonce and Mars going at it in some sort of dance battle when Chris Martin just kinda wedged himself in there. His body language had the "Yeah, Coldplay! I'M RELEVANT!" vibe to it, and it made me laugh a bit. Even so, I preferred Coldplay's music over the others, even if it was a bit more... chill .
Now just wait to see which team from the NFC will win Superbowl 50!
Denver won the super bowl.
It's been hilarious watching NE fans on the internet. Your tears are delicious and salty.
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Chancetragedy wrote: It's just a sad attempt from a loser fan base to take random shots. Still trying to make the connection to how that even applies here.
No random shots here. New England talked gak. got hit.
Ah, no taking random shots? But I love poking some good-humored fun at the Deflatriots fanbase. (As a Lions kind of guy though, maybe I should just leave )
Back on topic, it was nice to see how happy Manning was. Would be a very nice conclusion to a great career.
KommissarKiln wrote: Ah, no taking random shots? But I love poking some good-humored fun at the Deflatriots fanbase. (As a Lions kind of guy though, maybe I should just leave )
Back on topic, it was nice to see how happy Manning was. Would be a very nice conclusion to a great career.
Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.
His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."
Also, ESPN said the Budweiser comment was not a paid plug plus players cannot be paid to endorse alcohol or tobacco. Which I didn't know that was the case. Odd since every other commercial during football games is is coors or bud.
Which means Manning enjoys the second worse beer known to man.
Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.
His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."
In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.
I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.
Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.
His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."
In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.
I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.
But yeah, you're totally correct on the Eli read
When tom Brady won his first super bowl he looked like the N64 kid by comparison. his 4th, he had the same emotions as Tony Dungy when he won the SB.
I would be one of those people who would embarrass a lot of people.
Ensis Ferrae wrote: Peyton has been nothing but class and good image for whatever team he's on, and The League since day 1, and I can't begrudge the guy anything.
Except for that time at Super Bowl XLIV when he walked off the field without shaking Brees' hand following their loss.
You know, something people with good sportsmanship do:
Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.
His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."
In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.
I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.
But yeah, you're totally correct on the Eli read
I suspect that there are some interesting dynamics in that family and even a bit of dysfunction.
But what I really want to know is why Archie Manning is treated like NFL royalty. He wasn't a great QB, and was only a good one if you believe the narrative that his teams held him back (note that good QBs have found ways to shine on bad teams). He's like Jim Plunkett, but without the championships.
Because he sired 4 super bowl rings, like 6 mvp's, and and emotionless robot. ;p
I've always wondered that myself though. It probably has to do with the fact he played a while on a team like the saints before they were good and was decent.
I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.
Alpharius wrote: Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )
Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?
He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.
But again, at the end of the day - who cares?
Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot
Well, if that user above is correct, he cannot make money off of endorsements... Nothing about owning a distributor is saying endorsements, unless he's doing commercials for said local distributor.
Ahtman wrote: I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.
So basically he's a race horse who never won gak, but sired some champions after being put out to stud. *shrug*
Looking at his stats, he was a 55.5% passer, which wasn't bad for the era. His TDs to INTs is 125-173. Ouch. That's not good even when adjusting for his era, when QBs threw almost as many INTs as TDs. He had 3 good years -- 1978, 1979 and 1980. Topped 60% completions in all three years (a really good number at that time) and made the Pro Bowl in '78 and '79.
Still...in '79 he three 15 TDs and 20 INTs, and that was on an 8-8 ball club, so you can't claim that he was ALWAYS playing from behind like you might say about earlier in his career. One of the narratives you hear is that he took a beating. That's hard to tell without looking at film. He did get sacked a lot...3 times he hit 40+, and that was mostly on a lower number of attempts than you see today. Still, in '80 he got sacked 41 times on 509 attempts, which doesn't seem obscene. Of course, who knows how many other hits he took. Back then you could really drill QBs even if you didn't collect the sack.
Okay, so he had a few good years, and a bunch of bad ones. I dunno...I'm old enough to remember that era a little, and I just don't remember Archie being mentioned among the top QBs like Staubach, Stabler, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, etc. He was a big star in college and a #2 overall pick, and I suspect that plays into the narrative that he was a great QB in a terrible situation.
So years from now if guys like David Carr or Sam Bradford sire a bonafide great QB, I guess they'll become NFL royalty too.
Alpharius wrote: Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )
Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?
He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.
But again, at the end of the day - who cares?
Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot
Well, if that user above is correct, he cannot make money off of endorsements... Nothing about owning a distributor is saying endorsements, unless he's doing commercials for said local distributor.
Don't know why my post got cut off, but yes, that was my point - NFL (has a 1 billion plus deal for Bud Light) itself has a big deal but I think forbids players from taking endorsement deals for any 'alcohol' deals.
Ahtman wrote: I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.
So basically he's a race horse who never won gak, but sired some champions after being put out to stud. *shrug*
Sounds about right. I never heard of him when great QBs where mentioned until his sons were playing.
Alpharius wrote: Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )
Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?
He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.
But again, at the end of the day - who cares?
Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot
Not a New Yorker. You are making this even more hilarious for me.
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He owns 21 Papa Johns in the state of Colorado. What else does he own?
It's good see an NFL player be financially responsible. Instead of living in a low income apartment snorting coke and broke.
I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.
Read an article about Marshawn lynch recently and Gronk before that, they live off their endorsement money. Stash their NFL income. Good to see level headed people who don't buy their "professional friends" expensive stuff. Mike Tyson, Micheal Vick and many others were known for.
Piston Honda wrote: I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.
Not exactly mr. current events are ya?? Lol, they DO have just those sorts of classes... It's part of the NFL's rookie programs that were developed a few years ago. IIRC, that was put in during the last union CBA talks.
There are financial classes, as well as "how to avoid scams" class, time management/how to be a "pro player" classes, etc. I think it's done sometime after draft, but before fall camps open in pre-season.
Piston Honda wrote: I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.
Not exactly mr. current events are ya?? Lol, they DO have just those sorts of classes... It's part of the NFL's rookie programs that were developed a few years ago. IIRC, that was put in during the last union CBA talks.
There are financial classes, as well as "how to avoid scams" class, time management/how to be a "pro player" classes, etc. I think it's done sometime after draft, but before fall camps open in pre-season.
Wasn't aware of that. Link? I was more aware of the new CBA agreement containing contract agreements and money regarding rookie pay scale and veterans. There were some other stuff in theat CBA agreement regarding player safety, practice, and new player benefits. But don't remember a thing about financial education.
Sadly, most google searches for rookie anything for the NFL are ranking draft classes and whatnot... but that's from the NFL's website, though not quite as in depth as I'd particularly like.
Here in ex-Rams land (St. Louis), I recall several local stories that rookies had that "eye-opening" session over money management. (government takes howmuch!??!)
None of that was highlighted by NFL's or ESPN's run down of the new agreement.
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whembly wrote: Here in ex-Rams land (St. Louis), I recall several local stories that rookies had that "eye-opening" session over money management. (government takes howmuch!??!)
Did they become republicans right there and then?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Watching the Broncos parade right now. Still talking about "IF" Peyton comes back.
Only 1 of 2 things can happen to Peyton if stays. Stays the same. Gets worse. Would you really want someone who had the season he had back?
Also what happens if they drop that Lombardi from off the fire truck onto the road? Do they get a knew one? It will look ugly gouged.
Ahtman wrote: The 30 For 30 Doc Broke goes over the financial problems pro-athletes faced/face and talks about some of the changes in the last few years.
Exalted because I did see that one, and it's actually quite good.
Alpharius wrote: Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )
If the Patriots had won the superbowl the gloating would have been biblical. Most of the NE fans I know were very dismissive of Denver both before and after getting eliminated by them.
The only time for gloating is after the fact. Beforehand gloating can lead to humble pie and only makes the gloater look bad even if they deliver (IMO).
Tom Brady is an awesome quarterback and I hope he gets another ring in his last season but the only fan base I know worse than NE (personal experience) is Dallas.
Scrabb wrote: Tom Brady is an awesome quarterback and I hope he gets another ring in his last season but the only fan base I know worse than NE (personal experience) is Dallas.
IMO, the worst fan-base for smugness is NE....
Worst fan-base in sports regardless has got to be Philly.
But I think by far, the worst fans to deal with personally, are 49ers fans. Most Dallas fans that I know personally can take the jokes sent their way.
Worst fan-base in sports regardless has got to be Philly..
Truer words never spoken!
Worst part is, in my experience, they know it and actively try to live up to their reputation.
Hrumph.
As the resident Philly Fan, One, We Have Reasons! The Sports Press ALWAYS brings up the Santa thing, not allowing it to die. WE Know our teams and expect the best from them no matter how bad they are, and WE tell them about it.
Two, We do NOT sit idly by when they are playing like trash or just not show up. The Eagles have NEVER, not once had a game 'Blacked out' due to bad ticket sales, one of only a handful of teams that can make that claim. Hel, Arizona almost had a Playoff game blacked out, until they practically gave away tickets. Good, bad, indifferent, or basement those seats are filled. OH, and Weather Be Damned, Rain, Shine, Snow covering the seats.
Three, There have been fights and other rude behavior, but No one has ever been SHOT before, during, or after attending a game of any sort in Philly. No one has ever been pepper sprayed by a Philly fan while in the stands.
Four, Yeah, we are rude to a fault, and Yes, We Know and OWN it. Our teams play bad and we BOOO! Even if they are winning. Why? Because we know they can do better.
Five, Name one other team that even allows Tailgating at open practices and Training camp. Even when they are miles out of town in Lehigh, people go up there (About and hour or so) and tailgate the Training camp there. The Eagles even hold signing sessions for those fans that spend the day watching walkthrough drills and such.
Six, Philly is one of a very limited number of cities that can claim a NFL (Eagles), MLB(Phillies), NHL(Flyers), MLS(Union), and NBA(Sixers) team And with the possible exception of the Sixers(Recently), The stands are filled. Maybe not to capacity but rarely below 75%.
So Yeah, We Philly Fans are considered the "Worst".... Bet half of Dallas' or New England's fans know the names of the third string QB or anyone on the Practice Squad.
Worst fan-base in sports regardless has got to be Philly..
Truer words never spoken!
Worst part is, in my experience, they know it and actively try to live up to their reputation.
Hrumph.
As the resident Philly Fan, One, We Have Reasons! The Sports Press ALWAYS brings up the Santa thing, not allowing it to die. WE Know our teams and expect the best from them no matter how bad they are, and WE tell them about it.
Two, We do NOT sit idly by when they are playing like trash or just not show up. The Eagles have NEVER, not once had a game 'Blacked out' due to bad ticket sales, one of only a handful of teams that can make that claim. Hel, Arizona almost had a Playoff game blacked out, until they practically gave away tickets. Good, bad, indifferent, or basement those seats are filled. OH, and Weather Be Damned, Rain, Shine, Snow covering the seats.
Three, There have been fights and other rude behavior, but No one has ever been SHOT before, during, or after attending a game of any sort in Philly. No one has ever been pepper sprayed by a Philly fan while in the stands.
Four, Yeah, we are rude to a fault, and Yes, We Know and OWN it. Our teams play bad and we BOOO! Even if they are winning. Why? Because we know they can do better.
Five, Name one other team that even allows Tailgating at open practices and Training camp. Even when they are miles out of town in Lehigh, people go up there (About and hour or so) and tailgate the Training camp there. The Eagles even hold signing sessions for those fans that spend the day watching walkthrough drills and such.
Six, Philly is one of a very limited number of cities that can claim a NFL (Eagles), MLB(Phillies), NHL(Flyers), MLS(Union), and NBA(Sixers) team And with the possible exception of the Sixers(Recently), The stands are filled. Maybe not to capacity but rarely below 75%.
So Yeah, We Philly Fans are considered the "Worst".... Bet half of Dallas' or New England's fans know the names of the third string QB or anyone on the Practice Squad.
Also, come back and talk trash when the Eagles have a Lombardi. We'll be waiting.
They have the BEST Lombardi.... They are the ONLY TEAM to beat Saint Vince in the post season! The Eagles are the 1 in his 9-1 post season record. Look it up.
Oh, .. and we can find stories too...or this one...
Alpharius -- Does it matter which half I am talking about? One knows, one doesn't. Most of their fans don't care past Romo and Brady anyway.
helgrenze wrote: They have the BEST Lombardi.... They are the ONLY TEAM to beat Saint Vince in the post season! The Eagles are the 1 in his 9-1 post season record. Look it up.
It's a shame they don't hand out trophies for meaningless bs then, huh?
helgrenze wrote: They have the BEST Lombardi.... They are the ONLY TEAM to beat Saint Vince in the post season! The Eagles are the 1 in his 9-1 post season record. Look it up.
It's a shame they don't hand out trophies for meaningless bs then, huh?
It wasn't 'meaningless' back then, but then I don't expect you to know much about NFL history. Outside what ESPN tells you...
Then, you may not know about The Ed Thorp Trophy Because the Patriots and the Cowboys never won one.
Six, Philly is one of a very limited number of cities that can claim a NFL (Eagles), MLB(Phillies), NHL(Flyers), MLS(Union), and NBA(Sixers) team And with the possible exception of the Sixers(Recently), The stands are filled. Maybe not to capacity but rarely below 75%.
The Seahawks, Sounders and Mariners are right up there. Granted, there were a whole host of issues going on with the Sonics back in the day.... and "we've" never had an NHL team, so ya got us there... Or you could argue that we got you beat, because we've sold out every NHL game we've had
Honestly, only time I've ever really seen Safeco anywhere close to empty, it's been a mid-week, mid-afternoon game.... Ya know, that time of day when respectable people have things called jobs?? Ironically, I find true Mariners fans to be fething weird... they are so hopelessly optimistic about the season, you'd think it never rains up here
helgrenze wrote: They have the BEST Lombardi.... They are the ONLY TEAM to beat Saint Vince in the post season! The Eagles are the 1 in his 9-1 post season record. Look it up.
It's a shame they don't hand out trophies for meaningless bs then, huh?
It wasn't 'meaningless' back then, but then I don't expect you to know much about NFL history. Outside what ESPN tells you...
Then, you may not know about The Ed Thorp Trophy Because the Patriots and the Cowboys never won one.
Oh man, self-righteous Eagles fans are the best: "My team was moderately good decades before I was born and they don't have any meaningful trophies, but I'm still going to act like they're the best! Hurpy durp hurp! Fly Eagles, fly!"
And really, who cares about what the Patriots and the Cowboys have compared to Eagles. Unless of course you're talking about Super Bowl rings, of which they have zero.
Philly fans are dirt bags but wouldn't have it any other way. I love it.
Something honest about it.
My friend is a season ticket holder to the Eagles, once in a blue moon I get to go with him. Watching the fans is as entertaining or more entertaining than the game.
If it is a blow and and the eagles are losing, you can count on entertainment from the fans.
Other fans just leave.
Eagles fans? Drink more, vomit on each other and throw stuff.
helgrenze wrote: They have the BEST Lombardi.... They are the ONLY TEAM to beat Saint Vince in the post season! The Eagles are the 1 in his 9-1 post season record. Look it up.
It's a shame they don't hand out trophies for meaningless bs then, huh?
It wasn't 'meaningless' back then, but then I don't expect you to know much about NFL history. Outside what ESPN tells you...
Then, you may not know about The Ed Thorp Trophy Because the Patriots and the Cowboys never won one.
Oh man, self-righteous Eagles fans are the best: "My team was moderately good decades before I was born and they don't have any meaningful trophies, but I'm still going to act like they're the best! Hurpy durp hurp! Fly Eagles, fly!"
And really, who cares about what the Patriots and the Cowboys have compared to Eagles. Unless of course you're talking about Super Bowl rings, of which they have zero.
Hey let me know when The Pat and Cowboys get to 1100 games played so we can compare records...... Oh wait, by then Philly will be pushing 1500.....History ...it's a thing... one Philly has more of.
None of that was highlighted by NFL's or ESPN's run down of the new agreement.
So Manziel really is THAT stupid?
Manziel just seems to be a degenerate. I don't know his personal life, I'm not one to keep track of people's backgrounds, but if I recall correctly, and ESPN analyst said his dad is wealthy (from the oil industry) which he believes his upbringing shows in his behaviors. "Affluenza"
I could be wrong, but I'm sure that is what was said about him.
Manziel just seems to be a degenerate. I don't know his personal life, I'm not one to keep track of people's backgrounds, but if I recall correctly, and ESPN analyst said his dad is wealthy (from the oil industry) which he believes his upbringing shows in his behaviors. "Affluenza"
I could be wrong, but I'm sure that is what was said about him.
Basically, from what I've seen of the sporting pundits, the current "theory" is that from Pee-Wee football on, he's basically been encouraged as the superstar jock... Didn't pass that english class? Fire the teacher, and pass him. By the time he was at A&M, the coaches there pretty much had an untouchable, relatively uncoachable individual... but they had to sort of keep the long leash because dammit, "That Johnnie Football boy makes us rich!"... Finally, now that he's in the NFL, he's so far gone that not even Cleveland can help him.
It's kind of situations like this where I think ALL quarterbacks should go the route of Luck or Rodgers, where they spend a minimum of one season behind the veteran QB that they are "destined" to replace.
helgrenze wrote: Hey let me know when The Pat and Cowboys get to 1100 games played so we can compare records...... Oh wait, by then Philly will be pushing 1500.....History ...it's a thing... one Philly has more of.
"Since we have zero Super Bowl rings, let me bring up 'history' and a bunch of meaningless gak that doesn't matter."
Thank you for continuing to prove my point about Philly fans.
Clinton was President the last time Dallas won a ring. Further, you're probably getting Johnny Football soon because Jerry Jones has a hard on for headlines, good or bad. Ha, ha. feth you!
Philly's history may show that they have played with more balls than Gianna Michaels, but they haven't won the big ring. Any other "Yeah, buts" are just "Yeah, buts." Shut it.
2016 will be the year of Houston dominance of the state of Texas, and the American Sportsingtons. The Astros will win the World Series and the Texans will repeat as Division Champs on the way to next February's big show.
This isn't a Philly/Dallas argument in least bit. The Philly guy keeps bringing up Dallas for some reason (jealousy if I had to guess, which is odd because Dallas blows, too).
The only thing I'm arguing is that Philly and their fans are both terrible, which is pretty obvious given what's on display in this thread!
I'm a Steelers fan who now lives in the Philadelphia area.
And I'll say it -- having seen them up close, OVERALL I think Eagles fans get a bad rap. Oh, there's no doubt that they've earned a reputation. And I think that there are some fans that feel like they need to live up to that reputation, and that's what drives certain disgusting behaviors by some. But it's also true that Philly fan incidents get overpublicized just because that perception exists. Gak happens at stadiums everywhere. And the Linc is much tamer than the Vet ever was. The NFL is pricing out most of the worst apples.
Can Eagles fans be a PITA? Oh sure. Hard to find fans who crow more despite having won nothing. But there's plenty of obnoxiousness all up and down the Northeast corridor. The Giants and Jets fanbases have their fair shares of loudmouths, and the Pats fanbase includes some of the most boorish, obnoxious fans anywhere.
Eagles fans support their team well, despite the long history of heartbreaks, and better than plenty of other cities around the league. ESPECIALLY West Coast based teams and fans. You Seattle fans might get loud on Sundays, but the biggest NFL cities are intense ALL WEEK.
Of course, I'll take Steelers fans -- and probably Packers fans too -- over any of them.
Alpharius wrote: It's been my exerience that Steelers fans are pretty horrendous too.
In fact, the Packers fanbase is probably the 'nicest', for whatever that's worth...
I was in Green Bay for the Dallas/GB playoff game last year. For the most part, they were very polite, including the season ticket holders next to us. On the way out, there were a couple of drunks saying "Houston Who?" regarding my Houston Texans gear. For two of them, simply saying JJ Watt shut them up as he's a god in WI. One guy was so drunk, this buddies were steering him away, so I just ignored it.
Like Milwaukee fans, Green Bay fans can't hold their liquor. I've never seen someone projectile vomit 5' towards a trashcan until my first Brewers game!
Byte wrote: Philly fans are actually the most critical of their team. Unlike NE, Dallas, and Seattle were the teams are gods on earth.
I'm married to a Dallas fan that is VERY critical of the GM, the QB, the owner, and sometimes the ginger coach.
Well being from Texas and living in NE for sometime... I'm not talking of "individuals" guess I should have more specific as not to discount a wife or friend. I'm referring to the media and the bulk of the fans. Philly media bashes the Eagles. The NFL network crowns the Cowboys every pre season. NE is like teflon, there's pictures of Brady walking on water, Belichek is the Messiah. You guys have to realize the three teams I mentioned are the crown jewels of the NFL. If not, well nothing I can do about it.
Try being a Ravens fan in the relative local area. We get no coverage good or bad... Nothing. Just Redskin wish listing and hand wringing.
Byte wrote: Philly fans are actually the most critical of their team. Unlike NE, Dallas, and Seattle were the teams are gods on earth.
I'm married to a Dallas fan that is VERY critical of the GM, the QB, the owner, and sometimes the ginger coach.
Well being from Texas and living in NE for sometime... I'm not talking of "individuals" guess I should have more specific as not to discount a wife or friend. I'm referring to the media and the bulk of the fans. Philly media bashes the Eagles.
Again, as a fan of another team who ends up hearing a lot of Eagles talk, I don't think that's an accurate statement. Eagles fans will boo, and the local media will sometimes (but not always) ask the tough questions. But I don't think those things are unique to Philadelphia. The NY media is every bit as tough, and probably tougher. I've heard boos in other stadiums too. Maybe they're not as quick to boo as Eagles fans, but then from what I've seen Eagles fans aren't booing for the heck of it either. If their team is playing poorly, they let them know vocally. Maybe that plays as harsh in some areas of the country, but the NE region tends to value brutal honesty.
gorgon wrote: The NFL is pricing out most of the worst apples.
Doesn't seem to be working in Cleveland
In all seriousness, I think there is a ridiculous amount of truth to this across the board.
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gorgon wrote: The NY media is every bit as tough, and probably tougher.
As a Yankees fan not living in NY, I definitely see this as being true... Of course, being of the "Evil Empire" most of us will say things about how the Mets get a free pass for being terrible, but it really does come with the territory of holding 27 world titles
Byte wrote: I think hairs are just being split at this point and no one will ever consede any points, typical Internet's.
So I'll change my stance. Every team sucks and all their fans hate them. There.
Hels, keep your head up. I'm reminded why I stopped posting in these NFL threads and playing the Dakka NFL leagues.
Hey, some of the fan bases think their teams are mostly faultless, or eternal bums. They either see no problems (oh, they just had a bad game) or they place blame everywhere but the real problem (Our QB sucks.)
Imagine being a Lions fan. They seem eternally optimistic.
Browns fans keep thinking they "just need a QB".
Yeah these are generalizations, but in the end, Discussing NFL is better than talking about the weather.
Yeah, folks get their passions up but at least it's never boring.
Besides, You are missed in the Leagues. I need SOME competition.
Captain_Control wrote: Try being an NFL fan in Canada because our CFL blows! Even the browns could beat our Bombers
While we don't get the skill level of the NFL, at least we play with much better rules, and we're not a bunch of little pansies who can only play inside of a dome that's a balmy 20 degrees.
Packers, Bills & occasionally Pats fans are the only NFL fans who still play real, old time football and accept that it's not a game until the weather is somewhere between monsoon, mild hurricane or raging blizzard! (except the Lions, but then BC are well known for being a bunch of little softies!)
Captain_Control wrote: Try being an NFL fan in Canada because our CFL blows! Even the browns could beat our Bombers
While we don't get the skill level of the NFL, at least we play with much better rules, and we're not a bunch of little pansies who can only play inside of a dome that's a balmy 20 degrees.
Packers, Bills & occasionally Pats fans are the only NFL fans who still play real, old time football and accept that it's not a game until the weather is somewhere between monsoon, mild hurricane or raging blizzard! (except the Lions, but then BC are well known for being a bunch of little softies!)
Excuse me, but I believe the Broncos beat the Pats in bad conditions. Weird how they lost even though they're the only ones who play REAL football
Guys. Guys. Can we all agree that the Oakland Raiders are just terrible and have the worst fans? I'd take Eagles fans over Raiders fans any day.
Captain_Control wrote: Try being an NFL fan in Canada because our CFL blows! Even the browns could beat our Bombers
While we don't get the skill level of the NFL, at least we play with much better rules, and we're not a bunch of little pansies who can only play inside of a dome that's a balmy 20 degrees.
Packers, Bills & occasionally Pats fans are the only NFL fans who still play real, old time football and accept that it's not a game until the weather is somewhere between monsoon, mild hurricane or raging blizzard! (except the Lions, but then BC are well known for being a bunch of little softies!)
Excuse me, but I believe the Broncos beat the Pats in bad conditions. Weird how they lost even though they're the only ones who play REAL football
Bah! Football isn't being played "in the cold" until it's at least -20 (before the windchill!), and it's not raining until the game would be better played using canoes! (and snow doesn't count until visibility is a good 3' or so! )
Hell, up here we play play-off games where it's so damn windy, that even a 20 yard field goal is all but impossible to make!
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