Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave).
...
wait,
"third WAVE"?
as in, there will be more than just the Scythes held back?!
>:O
I swear to god, if it's anything more than just the stuff Forge World is working on for IA12, I'm gonna go on a table flipping spree...
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave).
...
wait,
"third WAVE"?
as in, there will be more than just the Scythes held back?!
>:O
I swear to god, if it's anything more than just the stuff Forge World is working on for IA12, I'm gonna go on a table flipping spree...
Well, it looks like I'll continue to proxy my Voidraven as a Night Scythe then...
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Weren't orks also updated every edition?
Just barely (their 4th edition scraped in before the release of 5th I think), but it seems unlikely they will get a 5th edition update before 6th comes out this summer.
Can't wait for 6th as it should be coming out on my birthday finally I get something nice from GW where I don't have to wait months, or years, to get the appropriate models
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave) . He/she also said that the release is definitely next month and will include Wraiths.
Man, that's another nail in the coffin of me deciding to put my Necrons up for trade or sale...
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave) . He/she also said that the release is definitely next month and will include Wraiths.
Man, that's another nail in the coffin of me deciding to put my Necrons up for trade or sale...
yea, sell them now (and then if this one single rumor that doesn't seam to match up with any of the others doesn't come true, we can laugh togeather)
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave) . He/she also said that the release is definitely next month and will include Wraiths.
Man, that's another nail in the coffin of me deciding to put my Necrons up for trade or sale...
yea, sell them now (and then if this one single rumor that doesn't seam to match up with any of the others doesn't come true, we can laugh togeather)
I'd love to trade them - problem is, with 6th Ed lurking on the horizon, I'm not sure what I'd trade them for! Who knows how 6th will shift the metagame, whether it will still be a game of squishies in boxes armed with heat rays or if it will lurch to something else.
4th Ed = Las/Plas 5th Ed = Missiles/Melta
6th Ed = ?????
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave) . He/she also said that the release is definitely next month and will include Wraiths.
Man, that's another nail in the coffin of me deciding to put my Necrons up for trade or sale...
yea, sell them now (and then if this one single rumor that doesn't seam to match up with any of the others doesn't come true, we can laugh togeather)
I'd love to trade them - problem is, with 6th Ed lurking on the horizon, I'm not sure what I'd trade them for! Who knows how 6th will shift the metagame, whether it will still be a game of squishies in boxes armed with heat rays or if it will lurch to something else.
4th Ed = Las/Plas 5th Ed = Missiles/Melta
6th Ed = ?????
Yeah,
You know you could keep/collect them because their cool... Or is having the meta winning army something you crave.
Panic wrote:Yeah,
You know you could keep/collect them because their cool... Or is having the meta winning army something you crave.
Panic...
You're right, Panic. I could keep/collect them because they're cool.
But they're not -that- cool.
I want to play and collect a competitive, effective army. I don't care that much about having a meta winning army. If I did, I would've played GK for longer than two months or would've started a Space Wolf army by now.
While I used to enjoy converting and scratchbuilding models, I just don't have the time to do it anymore. And frankly, IMO, for Necrons to be effective and competitive, you need to put Night Scythes on the table. So, I can shelve my grand worth of Necrons until GW (or some third party) puts out some Night Scythes. But that's locking up good trade stock that I could put to use for an army that is more fun (and more competitive) to play.
Personally, I think this is more poor decisionmaking on GW's part - I'd love to see GW produce a high-quality, competitive Xenos army. And in truth, they're getting closer. While Tyranids were fail, DE are better (though still not as competitive as Flavor-of-the-Week Space Marines - not counting CSM), and Necrons are better still, though still don't have the tools to have more than a couple competitive builds. If GW wanted to keep the excitement for Necrons, their next release would include the Scythe kits, which are a pretty key ingredient to the army. Instead, it's looking like the Scythe gets the back burner to wait for 6th Ed and a Power-Armor vs. Power-Armor starter set. Xenos get pushed aside again.
I'd love for Necrons to be a fun enough and cool enough army for me to want to keep playing. But right now, I'm not convinced. And by the time the models come out that might convince me, my attention will probably be caught by something that is cooler, more fun, and more competitive.
Death By Monkeys wrote: And frankly, IMO, for Necrons to be effective and competitive, you need to put Night Scythes on the table. So, I can shelve my grand worth of Necrons until GW (or some third party) puts out some Night Scythes. But that's locking up good trade stock that I could put to use for an army that is more fun (and more competitive) to play.
I certainly agree with you in that GW's 'business' decisions don't make a lot of business sense. However, I disagree with you in that Necrons need Night Scythes to be effective and competitive.
Scarab swarm isn't the only effective, competitive, and fun Necron list.
MTO/WraithWing isn't the only effective, competitive, and fun Necron list.
Tremorcon isn't the only effective, competitive, and fun Necron list.
I really enjoy my Necrons, but if you don't then maybe you should trade in those Necrons.
Lukus83 wrote:Not normally one for putting out rumours but I have heard from someone who *may* have access to certain information that the second wave will not include Scythes. If this is true I will be sorely disappointed (though this person said they will be part of the third wave) . He/she also said that the release is definitely next month and will include Wraiths.
Man, that's another nail in the coffin of me deciding to put my Necrons up for trade or sale...
yea, sell them now (and then if this one single rumor that doesn't seam to match up with any of the others doesn't come true, we can laugh togeather)
I'd love to trade them - problem is, with 6th Ed lurking on the horizon, I'm not sure what I'd trade them for! Who knows how 6th will shift the metagame, whether it will still be a game of squishies in boxes armed with heat rays or if it will lurch to something else.
4th Ed = Las/Plas 5th Ed = Missiles/Melta
6th Ed = ?????
Yeah,
You know you could keep/collect them because their cool... Or is having the meta winning army something you crave.
Panic...
Some people enjoy competitive armies, believe it or not. Kudos for playing a hellion army, but that style just isn't for everyone.
Death By Monkeys wrote:Who knows how 6th will shift the metagame, whether it will still be a game of squishies in boxes armed with heat rays or if it will lurch to something else.
4th Ed = Las/Plas 5th Ed = Missiles/Melta
6th Ed = ?????
My money's on something related to DeepStrike and Assault getting a massive change up.
(that would explain the nerf Flayed Ones received, to a degree. Why else would GW seemingly decrease the effectiveness of a unit, while increasing their retail price? Obviously this makes very little business sense, as with those two factors no one would want to buy them... unless they had something in the works which would suddenly make them awesome again)
6th ED will make PE for shooting and assault It will also add the 'Heavy' vehicle type
Finally, it will make combat weapons more powerful
As well as that, every codex released will get some flyer-esque vehicle
Matt.Kingsley wrote:6th ED will make PE for shooting and assault It will also add the 'Heavy' vehicle type
Finally, it will make combat weapons more powerful
As well as that, every codex released will get some flyer-esque vehicle
So do I.. My razorwing jetfighter is just begging to be immune to powerfists and the like (dont know if thats what they're going to do but hitting a jetfighter with a powerfist just seems really silly)
on-topic: Would be cool to see (heavy) destroyers get a buff, they've really been underperforming for me due to me rolling really badly
by 'flyer-esque' I mean the fast, skimmer vehicles we're seeing now (Valkyrie, Storm Raven, Night Scythe, Doom Sythe, Razor Wing, e.t.c)
though *apperently* there are now rumors saying skimmers can only be hit in combat by Jetbikes and Jump Infantry, unless they are stunned/immoblised. When they can't move, they can get hit in melee by anyone
of couse, I've only just started hearing this, so I don't know whether it is true (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BE TRUE!)
anyway, let's start talking more about 'crons, and less about 6th ED
Matt.Kingsley wrote:by 'flyer-esque' I mean the fast, skimmer vehicles we're seeing now (Valkyrie, Storm Raven, Night Scythe, Doom Sythe, Razor Wing, e.t.c)
though *apperently* there are now rumors saying skimmers can only be hit in combat by Jetbikes and Jump Infantry, unless they are stunned/immoblised. When they can't move, they can get hit in melee by anyone
In the leaked 6E rulebook (which apparently isn't all that accurate as far as final products go), if a skimmer went fast enough that it left the board, turned around, and zoomed back on, something anything with the Supersonic rule could do, it couldn't be hit in CC at all. If it just flew around normally, it was basically in hover mode rather than flyer mode, and you'd hit it like any other vehicle.
We'll see how that ends up panning out once 6E is actually released.
Beasts of War wrote:The next release of Necrons are coming on May 5th 2012.
We don’t have any photos of the forthcoming release but we do have an artist’s sketch of the final Necron Triarch Stalker model. It looks very similar to the Codex art work and what allot of people have already built at home.
Our information suggests that the release will include the:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:6th ED will make PE for shooting and assault It will also add the 'Heavy' vehicle type
Finally, it will make combat weapons more powerful
As well as that, every codex released will get some flyer-esque vehicle
This would make sense, especially the PE for shooting. Otherwise, I don't think my Destroyers will ever see much play.
I just hope stalkers are small, like dreadnought sized. They become pretty much worthless on a weapon destroyed result, they could at least make then easier to hide.
Actinium wrote:I just hope stalkers are small, like dreadnought sized. They become pretty much worthless on a weapon destroyed result, they could at least make then easier to hide.
Stalker is probably going to be slightly smaller in size than the Chaos Defiler/Soulgrinder kit judging by the artwork...hope I'm wrong mind you.
At least the second wave has the stuff I've been waiting for (Wraiths. Spyders and Blades). The other stuff, while nice to have, can wait, (for me). Of course YMMV.
Actinium wrote:I just hope stalkers are small, like dreadnought sized. They become pretty much worthless on a weapon destroyed result, they could at least make then easier to hide.
Seeing how the artwork, and most conversions, are similar to the size of the Barge, I very much doubt they will be the size of a dread
Kirasu wrote:4th Ed = Las/Plas 5th Ed = Missiles/Melta
6th Ed = ?????
I expect Flamers and Fliers to be the new hotness.
Excellent news for the much maligned Sisters!
Personally, as much as I want the Scythes, as long as I can start playing with new Wraiths and Stalkers, I'll be able to last until Scythes hit. Those stalkers look like too much fun and I can't wait to see the new wraith models.
I WOULD care about blades, but I've designed what I call 'Tomb Scythes', small night scythes/doom scythes used almost exclusively by my tomb world
and I've already stared making the gauss blasters, I just need to get the cutting device needed to cut through the thickness plastic card, though that shouldn't be a problem anyway, back on topic...
PLEASE RELEASE SCYTHES IN HE NEXT WAVE, I NEED MY NIGHT SCYTHES/DOOM SCYTHES TO BUILD MY SCYTHEWING ARMY!
IHateNids wrote:everything's failcast now though, isn't it.
No. Swarmlord and Karl Franz have recently pioneered plastic Special Characters as part of larger multi-purpose kits. More are sure to follow.
But I don't see that for any of the Necron SCs, so it's an academic exception for the most part.
I do expect it for Szera (whatever his name is) actually. I imagine him to be fairly large, judging by the artwork, and it appears that GW are trying to avoid large finecast models now.
IHateNids wrote:everything's failcast now though, isn't it.
No. Swarmlord and Karl Franz have recently pioneered plastic Special Characters as part of larger multi-purpose kits. More are sure to follow.
But I don't see that for any of the Necron SCs, so it's an academic exception for the most part.
I do expect it for Szera (whatever his name is) actually. I imagine him to be fairly large, judging by the artwork, and it appears that GW are trying to avoid large finecast models now.
Have you seen the Jabberslythe? That thing is a huge finecast monster.
I expect all the special characters to be Finecast sadly.
IHateNids wrote:everything's failcast now though, isn't it.
No. Swarmlord and Karl Franz have recently pioneered plastic Special Characters as part of larger multi-purpose kits. More are sure to follow.
But I don't see that for any of the Necron SCs, so it's an academic exception for the most part.
I do expect it for Szera (whatever his name is) actually. I imagine him to be fairly large, judging by the artwork, and it appears that GW are trying to avoid large finecast models now.
Have you seen the Jabberslythe? That thing is a huge finecast monster.
I expect all the special characters to be Finecast sadly.
How long ago was it? I think they started out making large finecast models, but they eventually decided that it was a bad idea and started making the newer ones plastic (hence the plastic swarmlord/tyrant and Karl Franz). I think they didn't make the old ones into plastic is cause it would be too expensive to reconfigure the machinery.
IHateNids wrote:everything's failcast now though, isn't it.
No. Swarmlord and Karl Franz have recently pioneered plastic Special Characters as part of larger multi-purpose kits. More are sure to follow.
But I don't see that for any of the Necron SCs, so it's an academic exception for the most part.
I do expect it for Szera (whatever his name is) actually. I imagine him to be fairly large, judging by the artwork, and it appears that GW are trying to avoid large finecast models now.
Let's see....Szera....a top heavy model mounted on thin, spindly legs....yup, knowing GW's business sense.....he'll be in finecast.
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I predict that Szera will be a multipart plastic kit that could also build a stalker.
That is my prediction.
That would be an extremely large IC. I highly doubt that. From the picture I see no reason why his upper body would be any bigger than a regular necron torso.
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I predict that Szera will be a multipart plastic kit that could also build a stalker.
That is my prediction.
That would be an extremely large IC. I highly doubt that. From the picture I see no reason why his upper body would be any bigger than a regular necron torso.
The swarmlord is also a large IC. And in the artwork his legs are a bit similar to the stalker's.
I think to save money they would make it like that. They wouldn't have to design a whole new set of legs.
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I predict that Szera will be a multipart plastic kit that could also build a stalker.
That is my prediction.
That would be an extremely large IC. I highly doubt that. From the picture I see no reason why his upper body would be any bigger than a regular necron torso.
... though, the idea of creating a tiny conversion Stalker using Szera's model greatly intrigues me...
*thoughtful chin rub*
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I predict that Szera will be a multipart plastic kit that could also build a stalker.
That is my prediction.
I don't think so, Szeras, is standing above some scarabs in the Artwork of him, he's be much more massive if he had some stalker legs. I imagine him to just be a finecast character size.
Either way an odd fit. The Stalker has no apparent "counter-part" for a Command/Annihilation Barge or Doomsday/Ghost Ark combo the way they seem to try and make them with most larger kits these days. Even its own options are fairly meager. I am surprised they didn't just throw in some sort of heavy support or recon FA-walker just to have a second build and give the kit more appeal.
But if Szeras is indeed the second build, it'll be a T4, 3+ save utility Infantry IC, who can ride with his Warriors in an Ark and all that, but has a model as large as a Dread (if likely less bulky), perhaps even larger. Also odd. Either way, it'll be interesting how it turns out.
IHateNids wrote:everything's failcast now though, isn't it.
No. Swarmlord and Karl Franz have recently pioneered plastic Special Characters as part of larger multi-purpose kits. More are sure to follow.
But I don't see that for any of the Necron SCs, so it's an academic exception for the most part.
I do expect it for Szera (whatever his name is) actually. I imagine him to be fairly large, judging by the artwork, and it appears that GW are trying to avoid large finecast models now.
Have you seen the Jabberslythe? That thing is a huge finecast monster.
I expect all the special characters to be Finecast sadly.
Here's the thing.
The Jabberslythe is "one specific kit" essentially. It being in Finecast only makes sense there.
Swarmlord and Karl Franz? They can be multiple things. Swarmlord can be used to build a "generic" Hive Tyrant, and Karl Franz's kit can be used to make a regular Elector Count or an Amber Wizard Lord.
If Szera could feasibly be used as the basis for another big kit--I could easily see it being plastic.
The HQ set will be a multi part plastic set like the chaos lord and the space marine captain!
All the lord/overlord options, all the cryptek options, all the unreleased named-hq models!! 25.00 US for one model, but it could be any model you want to make it!
a-ha!
Also- the wraiths will be a dual set kit for 54.50! With the set you can make 3 wraiths, or 3 jetbikes!
aaaaaaha!!!
Sadly, the stalker and the spyder will both cost 33 each, and come one-to-a-pack, but the spyder will come with three scarab bases! .
Death By Monkeys wrote:Viti - is this wishlisting or what you've heard is coming down the pipe?
Just some humor I think. There's already an Overlord model, I don't see them making another kit. It's also pretty clear by the codex images that spyders and wraiths will come from the same kit.
Death By Monkeys wrote:Viti - is this wishlisting or what you've heard is coming down the pipe?
Just some humor I think. There's already an Overlord model, I don't see them making another kit. It's also pretty clear by the codex images that spyders and wraiths will come from the same kit.
Or will they?
Some of the latest Empire Models (The Magic and Religious contraptions) could have easily een put in the same box, 3 minis in one. But no, GW made it Magic in one, Religion in the other
Also, in saying that, Volkar the grim is a plastic model, and he is necron sized, so plastic Seraz?
I'm not saying they won't ever do plastic singles for 40k like they are doing with Fantasy, but show me one they've done yet before you start holding your breath waiting for a plastic Seraz.
I would agree. Honestly, I am surprised Szeras is getting a model at all. He sure is more of a second-tier character, many of which don't get models at all in other books. Its not a coincidence that Swarmlord and Karl Franz also happen to be the "main guys" of their respective codexes, the most powerful and most iconic SCs of their books (as far as SCs can "represent" nids anyhow). If they ever do a single plastic SC, I would guess they'd play it as safe as possible and pick a highly prominent, highly iconic and (not just to sell stuff) relatively powerful guy (or girl). Azrael or Abaddon would be in that sort of league perhaps (not that they necessarily need new minis). Szeras is not.
I"m not too sure about the Spyder and Wraiths being in 1 box, to be honest. I can see they may look similar is shape and style, but I imagine the size may be significantly different. So I wonder how parts of 3 Wraiths would be used on a Spyder and vice versa. Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Zweischneid wrote:Honestly, I am surprised Szeras is getting a model at all. He sure is more of a second-tier character
That he is, my good sir... however, he is far and away the most interesting LOOKING HQ the Necron have.
If the model looks half as cool as the pic in the codex, I can see a bunch of people picking him up just for the modeling aspect of it (besides, you can always proxy him as a Cryptek)
Zweischneid wrote:Honestly, I am surprised Szeras is getting a model at all. He sure is more of a second-tier character
That he is, my good sir... however, he is far and away the most interesting LOOKING HQ the Necron have.
If the model looks half as cool as the pic in the codex, I can see a bunch of people picking him up just for the modeling aspect of it (besides, you can always proxy him as a Cryptek)
I doubt it, you don't see people taking Trazyn for his looks. Szeras is a crap HQ, definently the last on my list to pick up. The Traveler and the Diviner are far more desirable Models to have, and sadly I think we are going to rely on proxys and count as models for a long time in order to use them.
Zweischneid wrote:Honestly, I am surprised Szeras is getting a model at all. He sure is more of a second-tier character
That he is, my good sir... however, he is far and away the most interesting LOOKING HQ the Necron have.
If the model looks half as cool as the pic in the codex, I can see a bunch of people picking him up just for the modeling aspect of it (besides, you can always proxy him as a Cryptek)
I doubt it, you don't see people taking Trazyn for his looks. Szeras is a crap HQ, definently the last on my list to pick up. The Traveler and the Diviner are far more desirable Models to have, and sadly I think we are going to rely on proxys and count as models for a long time in order to use them.
Taking a mini in a game and buying a mini because it looks good doesn't have to coincide. I'd pick him up if he looked good, look pretty next to the rest of my crons.
Death By Monkeys wrote:Viti - is this wishlisting or what you've heard is coming down the pipe?
Just some humor I think. There's already an Overlord model, I don't see them making another kit. It's also pretty clear by the codex images that spyders and wraiths will come from the same kit.
Or will they?
Some of the latest Empire Models (The Magic and Religious contraptions) could have easily een put in the same box, 3 minis in one. But no, GW made it Magic in one, Religion in the other
Also, in saying that, Volkar the grim is a plastic model, and he is necron sized, so plastic Seraz?
Breotan wrote:I'm not saying they won't ever do plastic singles for 40k like they are doing with Fantasy, but show me one they've done yet before you start holding your breath waiting for a plastic Seraz.
Zweischneid wrote:Honestly, I am surprised Szeras is getting a model at all. He sure is more of a second-tier character
That he is, my good sir... however, he is far and away the most interesting LOOKING HQ the Necron have.
If the model looks half as cool as the pic in the codex, I can see a bunch of people picking him up just for the modeling aspect of it (besides, you can always proxy him as a Cryptek)
I doubt it, you don't see people taking Trazyn for his looks. Szeras is a crap HQ, definently the last on my list to pick up. The Traveler and the Diviner are far more desirable Models to have, and sadly I think we are going to rely on proxys and count as models for a long time in order to use them.
Taking a mini in a game and buying a mini because it looks good doesn't have to coincide. I'd pick him up if he looked good, look pretty next to the rest of my crons.
I think you are going to see Szeras on a Terminator Base and that is going to put him out for conversions and proxies for competitive gaming. Don't get me wrong, I will buy hims just for the sake of it being a Necron model. But I won't go out of my way to pick him up and I won't assemble and paint him until more useful units are completed first.
Matt, you realize that GW is limited by what they can fit on a frame, right? They're not going to be casting up single frames for special characters. Using part of a vehicle frame for use as a generic character/special character rider option is completely different.
Taken from Redemption's thread here Pertinent information from the post bolded an underlined for your attention. :3
Spoiler:
Redemption wrote:drbored wrote:I got a rare opportunity to ply a wealth of information for some knowledge and insight about what's coming up next/soon.
Here's the rundown...
Dark Angels (May/June)
6th Edition (July/August)
-Starter Box featuring Dark Angels vs. Eldar
Eldar (Oct/Nov Xenos slot)
And somewhere in that mix is going to be a splash release of fliers that *should* include the Harpy, Voidraven Bomber, Doom/Night Scythe, and possibly more. When I mentioned 'Autumn of Fliers' I got a derisive snort, so we may see it sooner, we may see it later.
This confirms two things:
1. It's not going to be Dark Angels and Chaos for the Starter Box. GW is NOT going to put two power armor armies in the same box. Power armor is their bread and butter, and to put two power armor armies in one starter box doesn't follow any trends, going back to the Rogue Trader days. It *may* be Dark Angels vs. Tau, but my source suggested Eldar strongly for several reasons.
-A. Eldar is a girl-getter. It's the one army that attracts more girls to the game than any other.
-B. Eldar is currently the worst selling army.
-C. Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase.
Eldar are the logical step, and now they're the rumored next step in this coming Xenos season.
2. Chaos is not going to be coming out this year, but may be slotted for early 2013. This is good and bad... bad because we don't get Chaos sooner. Good because it means Chaos will be a true 6th edition army, and not a 'made for' 6th edition army. This will put more time between the release of the rules and the finessing of the Codices, which means a better 6th edition Codex for Chaos. We could, of course, get a surprise, where they slam in a new Codex into the year, but that doesn't trend either. My source suggested, however, that we may see a lot of 'splash' releases packed in, with the aforementioned fliers being one.
As for my source, of course I can't reveal him. It'd be a plain disservice to his trust. What I can say is that he is a wealth of knowledge about all things GW, Forgeworld, and Black Library, and has many contacts therein (and I don't mean GW store managers. I mean Codex and BL authors, and GW and Forgeworld sculptors).
I would be very surprised if I was proved wrong by the passage of time and the developments therein, but such is the nature of the future. Take it or leave it, but I'm confident that you shouldn't have to take too much salt with this.
Seems we will possibly be gettin our scythes yet gentlemen.
MasterSlowPoke wrote:Matt, you realize that GW is limited by what they can fit on a frame, right? They're not going to be casting up single frames for special characters. Using part of a vehicle frame for use as a generic character/special character rider option is completely different.
I know, but with the plastic range of heroes GW is making, and showing that they will make a plastic infantry SC, means that they could make a plastic Seraz.
Whether they would is a different story, but it is still possible
Breotan wrote:I'm not saying they won't ever do plastic singles for 40k like they are doing with Fantasy, but show me one they've done yet before you start holding your breath waiting for a plastic Seraz.
There, plastic infantry sized special character
Please re-read what I wrote. You apparently missed the "like they are doing with Fantasy" part. Also, the "show me one" was referencing 40k not Fantasy. I didn't realize a dangling participle would be cause for a celebratory trip on the short bus but you certainly showed me. Well played, Sir.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:I know, but with the plastic range of heroes GW is making, and showing that they will make a plastic infantry SC, means that they could make a plastic Seraz.
Whether they would is a different story, but it is still possible
Fantasy models don't have to be WYSIWYG and also don't need the various component/weapon options the way 40k models do. I expect this is why the single-model kits are Fantasy models only so far. Personally, I'd like to see more generic "HQ" kits for other races/armies like the Space Marine Captain.
Xzerios wrote:
And somewhere in that mix is going to be a splash release of fliers that *should* include the Harpy, Voidraven Bomber, Doom/Night Scythe, and possibly more.
Breotan wrote:I'm not saying they won't ever do plastic singles for 40k like they are doing with Fantasy, but show me one they've done yet before you start holding your breath waiting for a plastic Seraz.
There, plastic infantry sized special character
Please re-read what I wrote. You apparently missed the "like they are doing with Fantasy" part. Also, the "show me one" was referencing 40k not Fantasy. I didn't realize a dangling participle would be cause for a celebratory trip on the short bus but you certainly showed me. Well played, Sir.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:I know, but with the plastic range of heroes GW is making, and showing that they will make a plastic infantry SC, means that they could make a plastic Seraz.
Whether they would is a different story, but it is still possible
Fantasy models don't have to be WYSIWYG and also don't need the various component/weapon options the way 40k models do. I expect this is why the single-model kits are Fantasy models only so far. Personally, I'd like to see more generic "HQ" kits for other races/armies like the Space Marine Captain.
I don't think I'd put much credence into that rumor, since the original poster of it on Warseer pretty much came out of the blue with it. Granted, everyone's gotta start somewhere, but the dude's never spoken up before.
Adeptus Miniatures wrote:After a long night of gaming with our local gamesworkshop lads we can confirm all new leaked info for the next few months ahead!!! Next month we will see the second wave of releases for the necrons! This includes wraiths, doom scythes and much more!! We can also confirm in the months after this all new dark angels and all new chaos legions codex to go hand in hand with the release of the much anticipated 40k 6th addition!!!!!!! :O (Oh btw theres some fine case lord of the rings too but thats not all important)
Adeptus Miniatures wrote:Indeed I do have my methods.... We went round one of the staff's houses the other night. Got talking about new releases and managed to get this information out of them! Info straight from nottingham's head office!
Hmm, one rumor says the Scythes come out at the same time as the Wraiths, another rumor says they come out in the fall with the other "fliers". Which to believe, which to believe...
I don't think Szeras would be a big model for a simple reason - his statline. He's like a regular cryptec but with +1W. Let's say Triarch Stalker is on 60mm - that would make Sheras use same base. Have you ever seen infantry on such base? A T4,2W infantry? I don't see it happening - prepare to see failcast Sheras on 25mm or if all is well - 40mm only to accommodate bigger legs.
Meanwhile as we wait for 2nd weave, check this out:
Breotan wrote:I'm not saying they won't ever do plastic singles for 40k like they are doing with Fantasy, but show me one they've done yet before you start holding your breath waiting for a plastic Seraz.
There, plastic infantry sized special character
Please re-read what I wrote. You apparently missed the "like they are doing with Fantasy" part. Also, the "show me one" was referencing 40k not Fantasy. I didn't realize a dangling participle would be cause for a celebratory trip on the short bus but you certainly showed me. Well played, Sir.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:I know, but with the plastic range of heroes GW is making, and showing that they will make a plastic infantry SC, means that they could make a plastic Seraz.
Whether they would is a different story, but it is still possible
Fantasy models don't have to be WYSIWYG and also don't need the various component/weapon options the way 40k models do. I expect this is why the single-model kits are Fantasy models only so far. Personally, I'd like to see more generic "HQ" kits for other races/armies like the Space Marine Captain.
I wouldn't totally rule out plastic singles for 40k..........There's also the Chaos Terminator Lord which is a single model plastic kit. However, it does seem that GW tends to release special characters either in metal or finecrap, probably because special characters are usually more detailed and difficult to capture by injection molded plastic (?) (i suppose realistically a lot of finecrap figs fail to capture details of the sculpts too due to poor quality control, but on the occasion that you do get a good cast ,they are finely detailed)
I do love the way the beetle/Spyder came out (and the fact that it comes with 10 mini beetles/Scarabs is awesome!)
... but that price might be a bit of an issue.
Still, if GW's version doesn't measure up, at least everyone will have another option!
The GW manager of my local store was pumping everybody up about the rumours of the 2nd wave of Necrons. He was going like : HEY! have you heard the rumours, Necrons next month jolly jolly! and then move to the next person.
I don't know how far a GW manager gets to know what is about to come, but somehow my git told me he knew more and just used the "heard rumours" as some kind of decoy for his excitement.
Just saying here I'm really voting for our second wave, Let there be scythes, triarch stalkers and all the other cool stuff!
Our spies have infiltrated the Nottingham warehouses at Warhammer World and we can guarantee the release of all new plastic NECRON DOOMSCYTHES AND WRAITHS!! Also we have seen what seems to be a mysterious new ork plastic flyer/skimmer! We think it may be a plastic fighta bomba ready for all new 6th edition!! - Sam
AAAAAHHHHH!!!!
THIS IS AWESOME, WE GET ALL OUR MODELS!!!!
(suck it, Space Wolves and 'Nids!)
lol, but seriously, this is great news.
if only their spies had been able to tell whether the Wraiths will be multi-kit Spyders as well, and whether they'll be sold individually or as a box set, it would have been the greatest news ever possible!
skoffs wrote:
lol, but seriously, this is great news.
if only their spies had been able to tell whether the Wraiths will be multi-kit Spyders as well, and whether they'll be sold individually or as a box set, it would have been the greatest news ever possible!
Well, looks like it's going to be 3 Wraith Box separate from Spyders :(
At the moment we don't know. All we've seen at the moment are boxes piled to the roof of the warehouses that contain plastic wraiths. No idea as to whether they come in sets or as single models. I imagine they would come in sets of 3 and are likely to priced around the same as the recent Thunderwolf cavalry. I will find out and post any further info later!
skoffs wrote:
lol, but seriously, this is great news.
if only their spies had been able to tell whether the Wraiths will be multi-kit Spyders as well, and whether they'll be sold individually or as a box set, it would have been the greatest news ever possible!
Well, looks like it's going to be 3 Wraith Box separate from Spyders :(
At the moment we don't know. All we've seen at the moment are boxes piled to the roof of the warehouses that contain plastic wraiths. No idea as to whether they come in sets or as single models. I imagine they would come in sets of 3 and are likely to priced around the same as the recent Thunderwolf cavalry. I will find out and post any further info later!
Same source.
Ah, but they could have just seen the FRONT of the box, which would probably have the Wraiths on it (much like the Lychguard box has the Praetorians on the front).
I'm gonna reserve my despair/excitement until I get confirmation one way or the other.
Our spies have infiltrated the Nottingham warehouses at Warhammer World and we can guarantee the release of all new plastic NECRON DOOMSCYTHES AND WRAITHS!! Also we have seen what seems to be a mysterious new ork plastic flyer/skimmer! We think it may be a plastic fighta bomba ready for all new 6th edition!! - Sam
That looks like somebody has misread and misreported the post from TheUnderdog on Warseer which reported boxes of plastic Spyders and Wraiths in the warehouse, not DoomScythe along with a possible sighting of the Ork FightaBomba.
Just to piggy back on RutgerMan's post, I was in my local GW yesterday and the red shirt there told me kind of sly like to keep my eyes open for a Necron second wave in the near future. He's usually fairly clueless, as they mostly are, so if it's coming from him, it sounds like Nottingham is letting some info out to the employees. I just want some Wraiths...
But Tomb Blades are in the upcoming weave is seems... We will only be missing Scythe (or not?) and IC's like Orikhan and Anrakyr (shame, wanted his fig soo badly)
Herr Dexter wrote:But Tomb Blades are in the upcoming weave is seems... We will only be missing Scythe (or not?) and IC's like Orikhan and Anrakyr (shame, wanted his fig soo badly)
Just convert an Overlord to include a Che Guevara beard & beret.
Szeras was mentioned long ago and confirmed now.
The upgrade packs are new rumor.
The change from Anrakyr to Obryron and Zahndrekh is new rumor aswell.
skoffs wrote:
lol, but seriously, this is great news.
if only their spies had been able to tell whether the Wraiths will be multi-kit Spyders as well, and whether they'll be sold individually or as a box set, it would have been the greatest news ever possible!
Well, looks like it's going to be 3 Wraith Box separate from Spyders :(
At the moment we don't know. All we've seen at the moment are boxes piled to the roof of the warehouses that contain plastic wraiths. No idea as to whether they come in sets or as single models. I imagine they would come in sets of 3 and are likely to priced around the same as the recent Thunderwolf cavalry. I will find out and post any further info later!
Same source.
Ah, but they could have just seen the FRONT of the box, which would probably have the Wraiths on it (much like the Lychguard box has the Praetorians on the front).
I'm gonna reserve my despair/excitement until I get confirmation one way or the other.
lol the spies must have X-ray in they eyes to see through carton boxes as after hot-shrink wrapping operations all goes into boxes. Boxes are then labelled up with barn code and short description and stored in project team’s warehouse. No chance to see what is in the box without opening (reaping top barn code) and that would be noticeable by project team and investigated…..
Anyway, next week you should have some more stuff in WD.
Those look good for me at least. My sorrow if forwarded to anyone who needs the Doom/Night scythe in their list but apart from that it looks like a substantial list that really covers the codex and in good time too.
I'm surprised people were really expecting Wraiths and Spyders to be in the same box; they may be of similar-ish design, but they'd be pretty-radically different sizes.
I kept saying that the Adeptus claims of a Scythe was pish and lo and behold...
I think its amazing that they have mannaged to get rumers out so early before the 5th, there is still around 2 weeks left before they are sposed to come out.
Destroyer Lord Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
Heavy Destroyer Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
... Welp, time to start stocking up on Metal heavy destroyers...
Glad Tomb Blades and Wraiths will be in separate kits. I was a bit worried they'd try to dual kit again.
STALKERS!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I'm hoping on resculpts for the destroyer add-on kits, though I'm not likely to use them. My destroyer lord torso is going to come from the Barge kit, and I already have made 'other arrangements' for my heavy destroyers.
Anpu-adom wrote:I already have made 'other arrangements' for my heavy destroyers.
(6th Edition comes long, and suddenly Destroyer are awesome again... Anpu-adom retroactively regrets his decision to use his ones as bits for something else).
Anpu-adom wrote:I already have made 'other arrangements' for my heavy destroyers.
(6th Edition comes long, and suddenly Destroyer are awesome again... Anpu-adom retroactively regrets his decision to use his ones as bits for something else).
I do hope so, maybe preffered enemy gets cranked up to shooting as well, would be devastating...
Destroyer Lord Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
Heavy Destroyer Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
... Welp, time to start stocking up on Metal heavy destroyers...
Glad Tomb Blades and Wraiths will be in separate kits. I was a bit worried they'd try to dual kit again.
STALKERS!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Yeah I'm glad I have an unopened D. lord and several sets for Heavy Destroyers. Don't need them right now but if in the future I do, I won't have to rely on Finecast.
Boo! I will have to buy two kits to field one unit of Tomb Blades with one extra model on the sprue >.>
Why one one Sypder per box? if you can field 3 of then in one H/S for 50 pts it should be 3 per box. I think if they are £10 for 1, I won't be using then. Same with the Destroyers, single unit kits aren't good. O The finecast Destroyers lord/Heavy kits, just look at the finecast Necron Overlords and lords, all the staffs are bent. Finecast doesn't work when it's so thin.
Other than that, WOOT! Second Wave! So who here is going to get 2+ Wraiths kit on the day they get released?
I'm totally not surprised that they held off on two of the most wanted models until now. Think of how many lesser models they sold because Wraiths weren't available right away. It may have been only a week or two of strong sales of now lesser popular models but that's models that may not have sold as well if people could have put that money towards better models like the Wraiths and Spiders.
Or think about the people who bought a Ghost Ark to convert to a Triarch Stalker. Now they may buy a real Stalker too. That's one more model sold that normally wouldn't have sold.
My God! He asks about whats coming up, and you get the info everybody already knew, then he decides to make fun of the English accent. What a tool.
That seems to be his MO. I tried watching a Skype-interview between him and one of the main guys at Corvus Belli, but it was too damn awkward to watch. "How old are you? You look adorable! Your English is adorable!"
My God! He asks about whats coming up, and you get the info everybody already knew, then he decides to make fun of the English accent. What a tool.
Yet another fantastic product of my country. Sigh...
On topic: Anyone have an idea when the Forgeworld stuff for Necrons will be released, or is that still under wraps?
Someone said towards the fall of this year, but I'm leaning more towards next year for the book and we'll see the first few models crop up towards November/December.
The guy working on IA12 Alan Bligh told me at the open day it would be either side of Christmas, Will Hayes told me that he was currently working on a new scarab sized construct similar to a dragonfly in appearance so I don't know how long between working on and releasing is with regards to FW but hopefully we'll see that soon
My God! He asks about whats coming up, and you get the info everybody already knew, then he decides to make fun of the English accent. What a tool.
Yet another fantastic product of my country. Sigh...
On topic: Anyone have an idea when the Forgeworld stuff for Necrons will be released, or is that still under wraps?
Having followed Sean and his company for most of a year, I have to say that you'll never find a more upstanding, kind-hearted fellow. He's just not a good interviewer, but his energy for the game and his studio is infectious.
Dr. Temujin wrote:Destroyer Lord Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
Heavy Destroyer Upgrade Pack – Finecast Bits
... Welp, time to start stocking up on Metal heavy destroyers...
The metal Heavy Gauss Cannons from the Heavy Destroyer kits are my pick for the worst example of metal models. I have yet to see one that is straight, and even with some mild bending they always look at least a little warped. I mean, I'm sure Finecast will be no better, but I won't really miss the metal Heavy Gauss Cannons.
This is what all my Heavy Destroyers look like, too. It's just a better-looking gun.
skoffs wrote:So who here is going to get 6+ Wraiths on the day they get released?
I'm not going to bother. I've already got 13 metal ones (one of my favourite 40k sculpts ever), so at best I'll just pick up five more old models since I'm sure they'll start going pretty cheap.
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RutgerMan wrote:I do hope so, maybe preffered enemy gets cranked up to shooting as well, would be devastating...
I would not be surprised if Preferred Enemy is something very similar to what was shown in the Pancake edition. It makes the Destroyers well worth their price, without being overpowered, and I cannot think of any units that would be game-breaking with such a change. (except that one Tau Ethereal would have to have its rules changed, or else everyone would send him running solo into the enemy, with everyone trying to avoid him -kinda like in Highlander)
That's the trend that Beasts of War have been giving us. Though they might not have pictures this time around (which is why they posted the contents of the wave and the 'artist's rendering' of the stalker last week).
BarBoBot wrote:I'm glad to see that wraiths will be plastic.
Since TWC was finecast and is $55, I wonder if plastic wraiths will be less...maybe $35-40?
Maybe I'm just being hopeful
Thunderwolf Cavalry is plastic, not Finecast.
The Wolf Lord that was released alongside them is Finecast and $41.25.
Using the TWC as an example might not be the best course of comparison anyways. Dependent upon the size, I'd say look at the recent Vargheist/Crypt Horror kit for Vampire Counts for pricing. You're gonna look at around $47 for a pricepoint for a trio of big kits.
Boo! I will have to buy two kits to field one unit of Tomb Blades with one extra model on the sprue >.>
Why one one Sypder per box? if you can field 3 of then in one H/S for 50 pts it should be 3 per box. I think if they are £10 for 1, I won't be using then. Same with the Destroyers, single unit kits aren't good. O The finecast Destroyers lord/Heavy kits, just look at the finecast Necron Overlords and lords, all the staffs are bent. Finecast doesn't work when it's so thin.
Other than that, WOOT! Second Wave! So who here is going to get 2+ Wraiths kit on the day they get released?
I think you're mistaken, you cannot field THREE tomb spyders for 50 points. It is 50 points PER tomb spyder, before any upgrade purchases, and they are 1-3 per heavy support slot.
Why would destroyers not be the same, they are a 1-5 unit and they have been that way for many years now and sold as single model boxes for just as long I believe.
Xzerios wrote:
On topic though, just six more days till WD comes out. >X3
IGNORE ME!
And I can't believe people are actually looking forward to WD for rumors and the like - guess GW's plan for the magazine is working after all, even if it just means people will scan pictures and put em online.
Oh, no mean to be mean there Brother SRM. I just see WD as the 'absolute' when it comes to debunking the rumors. Straight from the horses mouth they might say.
Though I would definitely be up for some pictures of stuffs in warehouses. Thatd also be a good rumor confirmer/debunker. :3
I'm not being mean at all! I'm surprised GW's strategy worked is all. It's got me looking forward to seeing new stuff in WD each month, that's for sure.
Brother SRM wrote:I'm not being mean at all! I'm surprised GW's strategy worked is all. It's got me looking forward to seeing new stuff in WD each month, that's for sure.
Well, I'm looking forward to the WD each month, but that doesn't mean that I'll buy it. As someone earlier said, I'm still happy with the scans that'll see online until my flgs gets a few boxes on the shelves.
Brother SRM wrote:I'm not being mean at all! I'm surprised GW's strategy worked is all. It's got me looking forward to seeing new stuff in WD each month, that's for sure.
Well, I'm looking forward to the WD each month, but that doesn't mean that I'll buy it. As someone earlier said, I'm still happy with the scans that'll see online until my flgs gets a few boxes on the shelves.
Doesn't mean all those 40K-bloggers out there ain't back on a WD-subscription in the hope of once having it that crucial half-day early so they can channel the net-hordes on their little site for some crazy traffic and adwords loving.
Anpu-adom wrote:My destroyer lord torso is going to come from the Barge kit, and I already have made 'other arrangements' for my heavy destroyers.
I'm also doing my Destroyer Lord this way.
My Destroyers are still going to look a lot like this, except that I'm replacing the green rods with the new plastic sculpt from the barge kit:
Consider your idea stolen, sir!
Actually I already have a "counts-as" Destroyer Lord converted, though he's in the form of an ANCIENT looking on-foot guy, made from a combo of Empire Wizard and Corpse Cart driver bodies, modeled sitting down on a modified chair from the Ghost Ark kit. But your idea is pretty ace, and I have all the necessary parts, and am always jonesin' for a new conversion project ( as if I didn't have enough WIPs!)
I'm not 100% anti-Finecast, and may at least consider the upgrade packs, but they would have to be much cooler looking than available plastic parrts. As your pics show, it's really easy to make something cool from existing bits (without even detracting from the model kits those bits come from)
looks super great, stalker is too big but I'm glad they used an actual triarch as the pilot. I have an old spyder that I've been subbing my c'tan for at lower points but i think i might retire the little guy for one of those monsters.
Nice looking models, those Wraiths look very deadly! The kits come with all the different wargear too which is great.Though I have just seen on the Spyder page the price of the kit, £20 for one.
Those look pretty boss! I'm quite happy. Don't see any flyers, or special characters, or the rumored upgrade sprues yet. So, this may not be everything.
Tomb Spyder looks great except for one small problem. The small flying base is going to result in the thing constantly falling over. It needs the large flying base just like the previous metal Spider had.
That looks awesome! It looks like too little if that's all that's being released this month. Only 4 kits? Last month we had a ton of Finecast recasts and new Empire models, so hopefully there will be more on the way. I was really looking forward to the Night Scythe and Doom Scythe.
Tomb Blade...bleh...I really don't like the look of them. Sucks cause I definately want a couple units of these.
Spyder is amazing compared to the old ones...but damn that's pricey.
Triarch Stalker is pretty much as expected. Freaking huge for a walker, but inline with the artwork. Hopefully it's not as pricey as I'm thinking it will be.
Wraiths are not quite as nice looking as the Spyder, but still pretty decent.
Here's to hoping against hope that the rest of the prices will be reasonable.
Ooh, the stalkers front legs are on ball and socket joints so you might be able to pose it down to a smaller silhouette, and I hadn't thought of it before but with the weapon underslung instead of on top of the vehicle you could get cover from a ghost ark while drawing your line of sight underneath it, like and upside down version of the rifleman dred behind a rhino.
Also those heavy gauss cannons are clearly not the old end to end gauss rod long heavy cannons but rather a squat regular cannon looking gun with 3 rows of rods instead of 2, which points to the finecast heavy destroyer upgrade kit rumor from before to be true if not yet pictured.
Maelstrom808 wrote:Tomb Blade...bleh...I really don't like the look of them. Sucks cause I definately want a couple units of these.
Spyder is amazing compared to the old ones...but damn that's pricey.
Triarch Stalker is pretty much as expected. Freaking huge for a walker, but inline with the artwork. Hopefully it's not as pricey as I'm thinking it will be.
Wraiths are not quite as nice looking as the Spyder, but still pretty decent.
Here's to hoping against hope that the rest of the prices will be reasonable.
Pricewise, I'm betting 50-60 for the Trarch Stalker, 45-50 for the Wraiths.
Red Comet wrote:That looks awesome! It looks like too little if that's all that's being released this month. Only 4 kits? Last month we had a ton of Finecast recasts and new Empire models, so hopefully there will be more on the way. I was really looking forward to the Night Scythe and Doom Scythe.
Red Comet wrote:That looks awesome! It looks like too little if that's all that's being released this month. Only 4 kits? Last month we had a ton of Finecast recasts and new Empire models, so hopefully there will be more on the way. I was really looking forward to the Night Scythe and Doom Scythe.
The Empire got what, 3 and a half plastic kits?
Yes, but they had a lot of finecast releases as well. I think most people are expecting at least two finecast characters to be released as well.
wait, so GW has just taken the old sprues form the old destroyer lord and heavy destroyer, taken away the destroyer bits, converted them to plastic (fully) and are now reselling them? What the hell was the point of that?
Pfff. Heavy Destroyer upgrade pack is lame old-style. Suxxorz. Imma bitz buy heavy gauss cannons from Stalkers when they start becoming available instead.
Damn, these are good. With a few exceptions (monopose Ballerina Grotesques, I'm looking at you!) GW's sculptors have been doing an excellent job over the past year or so.
Is it just me or does the Nemesor's paint job make any one else think of Macho Man Randy Savage? But a cool model which i will buy for sure none the less.
What is up with the midget flying bases on the spiders. Based on the height of the stem and the width of the base, I am guessing those are the same flying bases as what a gun drone uses. Which makes no sense...TWC and Blood Crushers are on 60mm Bases. Heck, fenrisian wolves are on 40mm bases. Carnies and Tyrants are 60mm. Why would a 3 wound MC be on the equivalent of a 25mm infantry base. The model doesn't even fit by any stretch of the imagination and unlike (most) skimmers, the size of the base does matter.
Man, I love the tomb spyder, great looking model. But as far as cost to point ratio, its truly harsh. My god. If you want to run a scarab farm, you'd better go see a bank about a loan.
Its like what GW wanted to do for Carnifexes, but failed because their marketing department didn't get a hold of the rules writer in time. Expect Carnifex points to go down next edition to 50 points a model too, haha.
Oh, balls. I really like those Wraith models. But I really like my old Wraith models.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:wait, so GW has just taken the old sprues form the old destroyer lord and heavy destroyer, taken away the destroyer bits, converted them to plastic (fully) and are now reselling them?
What the hell was the point of that?
Because the metal version of those guns are terrible and always warped, making them look very, very sloppy.
Also, this is the same principle as the Rhino vs. Razorback: either the former shouldn't exist at all, or else the latter should just be an upgrade kit.
Veriamp wrote:Is it just me or does the Nemesor's paint job make any one else think of Macho Man Randy Savage? But a cool model which i will buy for sure none the less.
I may get some spyders just to paint them up. I think my only concern is the Whip coils. I always transport my army and those look like prime candidates for multiple breaks.
Hot damn those look good. I wanted to see the Scythes... but oh well.
Tomb Blades are as awesome as I expected them to be. Despite the finecast, I am seriously considering both the Nemesor and Varguard to use as Overlords in my army... they just look too good.
The stalker is... ok. I'm not the biggest fan of the codex art to begin with, and they nailed it, but something isn't right about it. Perhaps that'll change after I see it with its other weapon choices.
The Wraiths? Yes. So much win.
The Destroyers.... same models, really? If I wanted those, I would go on eBay and buy the old metal ones. However, I saw somewhere that a guy took the Tesla Destructors and used them as Heavy Gauss Cannons. They looked boss, and I think that's what I will do.
Man I hope the price on the wraiths is reasonable cause I really want a box or two of them. These all look sweet except for zandrekh. Even the tomb blades have something going for them
I think the wraiths look pretty good, and it kills me a little to say that because I loved the old wraiths so much, but GWS did good. In for 2 boxes of those.
Same for the Triarch Stalker. I'm taking off the driver, though. I like it better just as a giant spider-crab thing.
The Tomb Blades look just as terrible as their codex art; and with their exceedingly underwhelming rules I can't see buying these; unless I'm missing something important. They're Deffkoptas with a nerfed Rokkit Launcha, s6 simply isn't high enough for me.
I'm probably going to get Nemesor and the Vargard but am hardly excited about them because of Finecast. That's what I dislike the most about Finecast; not the obvious things that everyone complains about but that it throws a goddamn cloud over something I should be ecstatic and excited over. Maybe I can make friends with a Dakkaroo and have them buy one from a local Gee-dubs and mail them to me after checking them in the store.
So far as the destroyer upgrade kit, the timing is pretty funny to me. I have 6 destroyers and I magnetized 3 of the arms (and one is a Destroyer Lord with a magnetized torso). I made myself a little heavy gauss cannon out of a piece of brass tube with some wire and brass stock, I'll make some casts today. I'd have felt my efforts were wasted since just buying the upgrade back would have made me happy but again, Finecast. I don't to try fixing want your warped cannons thank you very much. Also I sort of like how mine came out, they look more elegant than the originals.
Spyders, I dunno. The models are a triumph but I just don't really use them in my army. However as always the former trumps the latter and I'm sure to buy at least 1.
Illuminor model looks really derpy. I don't really like it all that much to be honest. Its the worst model out of all of them. Do the Tomb Blades come on the Gargoyle flying base?
UltraPrime wrote:Don't know why you think upgrade packs are plastic, they are resin.
Excellent! That makes my decision easy: I will not buy any of these.
I am very curious about Obyron & Nemesor, however... because the standard GW line about how there were some difficulties with the earliest Necron resin casts will really be tested here. I have an Imotekh that is ho-hum as far as its quality goes. However, if Obyron and Zandrekh are also problematic, then even the most stalwart Fincecast apologist will be unable to make excuses if these two do not turn out to be the highest quality miniatures ever.
In any case, I'll take a look at them in-store. They're both cheap enough that a 30% online vendor discount won't be too difficult to bypass in exchange for my own personal brand of quality assurance.
The Tomb Blades, as mentioned above, look as stupid as their artwork in the Codex. They're about the most superfluous thing in the entire Necron Codex and I wish they didn't exist.
The Wraiths... just aren't doing it for me. I like my original Wraiths far better. They're also way too busy with all those weird Christmas baubles hanging off the side.
The Tomb Spyder is the best of a bad lot, but as I already own 8 Tomb Spyders I can't see the need for any more. I do really like the back-mounted cannons. They're pretty cool.
I love all three of the special characters especially Obyron, but, they're all Finecost, so feth that noise. Ditto for the Destroyer Lord/Heavy Destroyer kits. I've got 1 Destroyer Lord and 4 Heavy Destroyers still to build in metal. I hate metal/plastic hybrid kits, but I hate Finecost even more.
And then the big Stalker. Wow... I really wanted to like this one. I think without the driver it will be better (as will any Necron vehicle) - I hate all the crew that Necron vehicles have, part of the reason why Tomb Blades are such a silly concept - but yeah... it's just too spindly and doesn't inspire fear or awe.
I really wanted to like this, but I just don't. This whole Necron release has just been vastly underwhelming. A lot of great character models ruined by Finecost, uninspired Elites, boilerplate Wraiths and Spyders, horrid new designs like the Ghost Arc and the Tomb Blades, uninspiring designs like the Stalker and Barge kits. About the only things I like are the Deathmarks and the Doomsday Arc.
I agree with HBMC about the whole drivers thing. I'm getting ready to order 5 Anni/Command Barges, and I've got some ideas for using the drivers from those in conjunction with DE reaver jetbikes to make my own tomb blades.
My other complaint about Necron stuff: Why do all the weapons have to be mounted on the bottoms of everything? Let's make it impossible to hide a vehicle behind terrain where it can still shoot, but gain a cover save, yet also make it that much harder to draw LOS to opposing units....unlike most every other vehicle in the game. Grrrr.....
ThomasPolder wrote:best part about no scythes in this release though: this thread keeps on living, perhaps to 300 pages
LOL...
Spyders are great, but damn expensive. I don't feel like dropping $100 for a unit of them.
I don't know what I feel about the wraiths. The small stands make me go WTF?!?! I may just keep making my conversions on 40mm bases.
Tombblades are what they were in the codex art. Mixed feelings here too... I think they could have done better.
The destroyer lord and heavy destroyer kits make sense, but finecast doesn't. I'm going to continue with using plastic pieces (someone mentioned modifying a pair of gauss blasters... that's an idea!)
I like the pose of Oberyon, I need a closer look at some fully painted Namesor and Szeras models before I decide about them. I hope these models will help me over my Finecast Phobia.
I don't know if I'll be getting a Stalker. I just don't think it fits in my army, and it looks like a pain to paint.
Swara wrote:The wraiths look like they are the same 40mm base they were on before, unless you are talking about the spyders which were on the 60mm flying bases.
Thanks for pointing it out. I was confused with the spyders... it's hard to tell on those too. Scale is all crazy, are the new spyders the size of rhinos (that was an old rumor, if I remember)?
Swara wrote:The wraiths look like they are the same 40mm base they were on before, unless you are talking about the spyders which were on the 60mm flying bases.
Thanks for pointing it out. I was confused with the spyders... it's hard to tell on those too. Scale is all crazy, are the new spyders the size of rhinos (that was an old rumor, if I remember)?
Sorry, I wasn't very clear in how I worded it. The old spyders used to be on 60mm flying bases. The new ones look to be on the 1 inch small flying bases.. which is really tiny. I'm going to continue putting them on the 60mm ones..
Well.... That settles it for me....
No more Necron buys till the Scythes....
Allready have 10 spyders, 18 wraiths, and 15 OOP destroyers to use as tomb blades.
If I win some store credit; I might look into the HQs.
Maelstrom808 wrote:My other complaint about Necron stuff: Why do all the weapons have to be mounted on the bottoms of everything? Let's make it impossible to hide a vehicle behind terrain where it can still shoot, but gain a cover save, yet also make it that much harder to draw LOS to opposing units....unlike most every other vehicle in the game. Grrrr.....
I hope and pray that that heralds the end of the *bleepin* TLOS nonsense for 6th edition. one can hope
Yes, the Wraiths are still on 40mm bases, but much taller than before. The tall one is nearly twice the height, the other two are about 150% the height of the old metal wraith.
As for the Spyder, I wonder if the picture on the small flying stand is just for the photo, and it comes with a 60mm one in the box.
azazel the cat wrote:In any case, I'll take a look at them in-store. They're both cheap enough that a 30% online vendor discount won't be too difficult to bypass in exchange for my own personal brand of quality assurance.
... 30% DISCOUNT?!! Which online retailer would this be, kind sir?
azazel the cat wrote:In any case, I'll take a look at them in-store. They're both cheap enough that a 30% online vendor discount won't be too difficult to bypass in exchange for my own personal brand of quality assurance.
... 30% DISCOUNT?!! Which online retailer would this be, kind sir?
He's Canadian. I'd guess that the discrepancy between US and CAGW pricing, combined with a discounter like warstore or whatever you guys use, that side of the pond, could well amount to a 30% price difference.
for an example back here in the old world, darksphere games gives: Web Price: £13.88 for a land speeder storm. that's €17. here on the mainland, GW retail is €25 (while the UK RRP is £18.50 - €22,75) 17/25=0,68 for a total 32% discount. it really, really adds up.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm shocked. I dislike all of them.
The Tomb Blades, as mentioned above, look as stupid as their artwork in the Codex. They're about the most superfluous thing in the entire Necron Codex and I wish they didn't exist.
The Wraiths... just aren't doing it for me. I like my original Wraiths far better. They're also way too busy with all those weird Christmas baubles hanging off the side.
The Tomb Spyder is the best of a bad lot, but as I already own 8 Tomb Spyders I can't see the need for any more. I do really like the back-mounted cannons. They're pretty cool.
I love all three of the special characters especially Obyron, but, they're all Finecost, so feth that noise. Ditto for the Destroyer Lord/Heavy Destroyer kits. I've got 1 Destroyer Lord and 4 Heavy Destroyers still to build in metal. I hate metal/plastic hybrid kits, but I hate Finecost even more.
And then the big Stalker. Wow... I really wanted to like this one. I think without the driver it will be better (as will any Necron vehicle) - I hate all the crew that Necron vehicles have, part of the reason why Tomb Blades are such a silly concept - but yeah... it's just too spindly and doesn't inspire fear or awe.
I really wanted to like this, but I just don't. This whole Necron release has just been vastly underwhelming. A lot of great character models ruined by Finecost, uninspired Elites, boilerplate Wraiths and Spyders, horrid new designs like the Ghost Arc and the Tomb Blades, uninspiring designs like the Stalker and Barge kits. About the only things I like are the Deathmarks and the Doomsday Arc.
I think you are the only one suprised by you not liking something, considering all your other shiny happy comments about everything on here. I used to have to wonder what it's like to hate everthing then I just read all his posts. Now I know.
On topic. I'm on board with everything but the finecast stuff. I'll pay extra for metal GW, please?
Stalkers have done it for me. However, it seems like it will be a pain to assemble the legs so they actually stand together. As for the Spyders and the Wraiths, I'm... a bit pleasantly surprised, really. Granted, I still like the old wraiths, but these might grow on me a bit.
Tomb Blades look like gak.
ThomasPolder wrote:back here in the old world, darksphere games gives: Web Price: £13.88 for a land speeder storm. that's €17. here on the mainland, GW retail is €25 (while the UK RRP is £18.50 - €22,75) 17/25=0,68 for a total 32% discount. it really, really adds up.
... *sigh*
if only I could somehow find someone willing to ship to Japan...
(I'll give you an idea of how bad GW's prices are here: Let's take the new Necron Battleforce box. In the UK you can find it for about £52.00, right? In Japan, it's ¥14,000... via conversion, that's roughly £107... ... ... you have no idea how jealous we are of you "old worlders")
puma713 wrote:Look at all that Finecast. Oh well - wasn't sure about starting an army anyway. Love the wraiths, and the stalker. Obyron looks like a total badass.
What a shame. GW, if those ICs were metal or plastic, I'd be pulling out my credit card right now.
If they're bad, just ring GW for new ones until you get one that is acceptable. Entirely too tired of all this Finecast whining.
Squig_Johnson wrote:I think you are the only one suprised by you not liking something, considering all your other shiny happy comments about everything on here. I used to have to wonder what it's like to hate everthing then I just read all his posts. Now I know.
those tomb blades have cannon, erm, bits. Personally I don't like them, but a few of the other ones look cool. The triarch stalker isn't great either. It's just, i don't like them.
That whole last section on the stalker's front legs I'm going to clip off. I don't wanna be like model for advantage guy but the last section doesn't even thin out to a point, the second to last part does. It looks like someone glued a length of plastic sprue onto the tip of where the claw should end.
The blades look really really cool to me, i dono what you guys are talking about. Much more like a flying gyrocycle thing with awesome aesthetic flare than the hover chair i thought it would be, i just hope i can either sell my 1 extra from 2 kits or pick up 2 individuals from other dude's extras on the cheap.
I also like szeras just fine, I might even convert some modular alternate hands with a different head on it for each race so no matter who I'm against they'll know after I beat them they're gonna get my probe in their mouth.
$99 Blood Knights are "terrible". $47 Wraiths are about par. Expected $53 like Thunderwolf Cavalry, but they're bulkier so it makes sense that they're a bit more expensive.
They could have been $54.50. Look at some of the other "3 big model" boxes in the range:
1. Tyranid Raveners - 3 models for $44.50
2. Khorne Bloodcrushers - 3 models for $54.50
3. Dark Eldar Reavers - 3 models for $34.75
4. Ork Killa Kanz - 3 models for $44.50
5. Thunderwolf Cavalry - 3 models for $54.50
6. Vargheists/Crypt Horrors - 3 models for $54.50
7. Necropolis Knights/Sepulchral Stalkers - 3 models for $54.50
8. Empire Demigryph Knights - 3 models for $54.50
The Wraiths should probably be the same as the Raveners, $44.50, but it would be far worse if they were $54.50 for a box. It could be worse, they could be $99 for a unit of three. Hello Spyders!
I like them, though I probably won't be buying any. I blew my budget on Ghost Arks.
I'm kind of disappointed by the lack of Scythes (so far) but the models look pretty good. Thank God I already own a lot of Spyders and Wraiths, otherwise my credit card would be taking a beating.
Well, that definately seals it. Reavers are going to get converted to tomb blades.
As far as the wraiths, it is pretty rediculous. I can see them being priced as Ravs IF they include full options, but I'd almost bet money that there will only be one or two of each weapon option in the box. It's nothing more than popular unit = inflated costs.
I like the Wraiths and Spyders quite a bit, though the chest-mounted underslung guns on the Wraiths look a bit out of place on the otherwise sinuous model.
The Stalker looks...accurate? I don't really dislike it, but I'm not changing my pants over it either.
The Tomb Blades I'm not a huge fan of, but they do look better than what I thought they would look like from the art in the book, and I do like that they can be put together in several configurations. I don't currently plan to run them, but if I do at least the models are better than I expected.
The characters look decent enough. Again, not amazing, but definitely good enough to use.
Maelstrom808 wrote:As far as the wraiths, it is pretty rediculous. I can see them being priced as Ravs IF they include full options, but I'd almost bet money that there will only be one or two of each weapon option in the box. It's nothing more than popular unit = inflated costs.
Nope, looks like they'll be including full options. (from the scans):
"Canoptek Wraiths may be upgraded to carry one of two underslung weapon systems - a particle caster or a transdimensional beamer - and enough of these weapons are included on the frame to arm all thre Wraiths in the kit as desired. In addition, there are enough components to equip each Canotek Wraith with the debilitating whip coils upgrade." http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=138715&d=1335208846
If that trade sales pricing turns out to be legit ($47 USD), I'd say it's not overall a bad box.
Maelstrom808 wrote:Well, that definately seals it. Reavers are going to get converted to tomb blades. As far as the wraiths, it is pretty rediculous. I can see them being priced as Ravs IF they include full options, but I'd almost bet money that there will only be one or two of each weapon option in the box. It's nothing more than popular unit = inflated costs.
Read what it says on the pic of the Wraiths from White Dwarf. It specifically says the kit has all of the options for each Wraith.
MajorWesJanson wrote:Yes, the Wraiths are still on 40mm bases, but much taller than before. The tall one is nearly twice the height, the other two are about 150% the height of the old metal wraith.
That means the old metal Wraiths will enjoy a very nice size advantage over the new ones when they are hiding in cover.
skoffs wrote:
azazel the cat wrote:In any case, I'll take a look at them in-store. They're both cheap enough that a 30% online vendor discount won't be too difficult to bypass in exchange for my own personal brand of quality assurance.
... 30% DISCOUNT?!! Which online retailer would this be, kind sir?
Dicebucket usually operates at about 30% off of the US prices. I do not know if they will ship to Japan.
Product Name USD Necron Triarch Stalker $47.00 Does this mean they come in a 2-pack? Because otherwise, this is prohibitively overpriced. Necron Tomb Blades $41.25 I assume this is for at least a 3-pack? Otherwise, see above. Necron Canoptek Wraiths $47.00 For a 3-pack, this price a small miracle. Necron Canoptek Spyder $33.00 This is a little on the high side for something that really doesn't work well unless you have several. Nemesor Zahndrekh $19.25 I do not understand why he costs more than Obyron. Vargard Obyron $16.00 Yeah, okay. Illuminor Szeras $21.50 Cool model, but its in-game value makes this price just foolish. Necron Destroyer Lord Upgrade Pack $10.00 Yeah, okay. Necron Heavy Destroyer Upgrade Pack $8.25 Yeah, okay.
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AresX8 wrote:$47 for 3 Wraiths isn't that bad.
It's not bad, it's terrible.
That's $15.66 per Wraith. I think the old versions used to sell for $18 per model.
Maelstrom808 wrote:Well, that definately seals it. Reavers are going to get converted to tomb blades.
I actually don't mind the new models; it's just the concept that I find silly. I agree with you, Reaver conversions seem far more menacing: kinda like a Green Goblin's glider concept.
I think the old wraiths were way better than these. Also, not a fan of the tomb blades. tomb spider is a step up. the rest of the stuff is pretty cool though.
MajorWesJanson wrote:Yes, the Wraiths are still on 40mm bases, but much taller than before. The tall one is nearly twice the height, the other two are about 150% the height of the old metal wraith.
That means the old metal Wraiths will enjoy a very nice size advantage over the new ones when they are hiding in cover.
With a 3+ Invulnerability Save, I doubt the cover is ever going to be of any use to them...
Maelstrom808 wrote:Well, that definately seals it. Reavers are going to get converted to tomb blades.
If you do do this, would you consider taking lots of pictures and writing up a tutorial for us? I'd sure like to see some takes on this.
Or are you just gonna glue some warriors on there?
A shame that I've not seen the local player who did this with Reavers and the Ark passengers since I first saw them; they weren't perfect, but they were fairly good.
MajorWesJanson wrote:Yes, the Wraiths are still on 40mm bases, but much taller than before. The tall one is nearly twice the height, the other two are about 150% the height of the old metal wraith.
That means the old metal Wraiths will enjoy a very nice size advantage over the new ones when they are hiding in cover.
With a 3+ Invulnerability Save, I doubt the cover is ever going to be of any use to them...
I would rather have my Wraiths completely obscurred by walls ('cuz they're shorter, you see) than be forced to use their 3++, but I do see what you mean.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:yeah, though, seeming they are ji, size doesn't matter anyway when they are in terrain
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.
Also: I confused Reavers with Hellions earlier. I think I'm going to convert some of those DE Hellion gliders in order to make Tomb Blades.
Maelstrom808 wrote:Well, that definately seals it. Reavers are going to get converted to tomb blades.
If you do do this, would you consider taking lots of pictures and writing up a tutorial for us? I'd sure like to see some takes on this.
Or are you just gonna glue some warriors on there?
Well, if the barges will turn out okay with out them, I plan on using the pilots from the barges for torsos, arms and heads. Maybe warrior legs, since they are already fairly bowlegged. Ditch the blades and spikey bits from the reavers, maybe change the engine intake area on the reaver bike by making one of the "fusion ball" power sources we see on all the necron stuff. They will probably be one of the last things I add to the army so I'll have plenty of bits to make a suitable particle beamer out of. I'll mount that either where the current gun is on the reaver or maybe fashion a mount firing over the top of the pilot. Really it'll come down to just getting the pieces in front of me and start test fitting, but I think the end product will fit in pretty well with the overall asthetic...at least it's better than:
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It'll be a bit before I get to those though. I'm just now starting to buy models to update the army to the 5th ed dex, and the tomb blades are not super high on the list.
As far as the tomb blades go I don't like the look either, but you could probably tell from the art in the codex they wern't going to be great. Might look better if you just extended them some to give them a sleeker look more for speed.
Wonder how many people might be better going back to their oop Necron destroyers and using them counting as tomb blades if people remember the models?
I do remember the Necron Lawnchairs, but I think I'm going to pass on that; while I'm not thrilled about Tomb Blades, I do find them quite a bit better than that.
Huh, I think the Blades are awesome and I cant wait to field a whole bunch of them!
Everything else is lookin fairly nice ... not too thrilled about the price of the spyder, so that will be the last buy, but everything else is fairly nice!
Matt.Kingsley wrote:wait, so GW has just taken the old sprues form the old destroyer lord and heavy destroyer, taken away the destroyer bits, converted them to plastic (fully) and are now reselling them?
What the hell was the point of that?
The increased profit they get from selling less stuff for a greater price, likely.
I hated the Tomb Blade concept art, but I honestly don't mind the models so much, it works better with the tesla guns too and with a tron-inspired colour scheme i'm using, it just works even better.
The wraiths & Canoptek Spyders have more of a matrix sentinel feel than what I expected from the concept art, which sounds good for the wraith, but for £20 for each spyder... err...
The stalker is a bit underwhelming, it looks as we wanted, but feels too much like a converted ark model rather than a fresh design.
I like the characters, and it's a shame Illuminor has the best pose (for a model that no one will use).
The eldest lad is going to be very happy when he sees these later.
I like pretty much all of it, it fits with everything they have done so far, which for me is the most important thing.
Just glad I can get him the Stalker, he's been slightly jealous of the number of large Tyranid models his brother has. As in he gets one of those false smiles folks put on, when his brother is saying how awesome the Trygon is. Poor boy,
Just a reminder that the rule of cool for someone under ten is how big the model is.
Well there is the belief held by many that Fantasy and 40k are very different animals and that looking to the way 40k has been handled in the past is perhaps a better benchmark than that "other" system.
Tomb Blades look exactly like their art so I'm not sure what anyone was expecting
Anyways nice release though coverage wise. Only Fliers are left and a few other characters. Of course though they're gonna be pricey. Though I dont really buy anything from 40k these days so I guess I dont have much of an onion
Praxiss wrote:Still pricey. I'm a bit miffed as well that there is NO WAY it will work in a mixed unit with the older spyders, it just looks way to massive.
I agree, still very pricey. I was hoping for a kit that was destroyer priced, but it's not to be. I'll have to see some in person before deciding if I'm going to buy them. The pricing, though, makes me wonder if PuppetsWar has some espionage going on... that they knew the GW price when they priced theirs.
Anung Un Rama wrote:I'm dissapointed by the lack of Flyers in this wave. :(
Just further fuel for the 'Autumn of the Flyers" rumors that have been going around. I have a feeling that July will have more stuff going on than just the new rulebook... just a feeling. Some things that I'd like to see would be the starter set and flyer kits. I know, it would go against what GW has done in the past.
I long believed spyders and wraiths would be a combo kit. When rumors came out that they were seperate, there was also a rumor saying that the spyder came with some scarabs.
I'm hoping that's true and thus some form of justification for the price.
I agree the Stalker looks too much like the conversions that have already been made, that's disappointing. I thought wraiths would be closer to 60 bucks so I think 47 actually isn't so bad for 3.
The other thing that confuses me is why on the spyders it makes the back carapace gun mounting so pronounced, as if that was a major feature. Being I have 6 converted spyders, I might get 3 of these eventually, but I fear they will look bad next to each other.
Ouze wrote:I think the wraiths look pretty good, and it kills me a little to say that because I loved the old wraiths so much, but GWS did good. In for 2 boxes of those.
Same for the Triarch Stalker. I'm taking off the driver, though. I like it better just as a giant spider-crab thing.
The Tomb Blades look just as terrible as their codex art; and with their exceedingly underwhelming rules I can't see buying these; unless I'm missing something important. They're Deffkoptas with a nerfed Rokkit Launcha, s6 simply isn't high enough for me.
I think Tomb Blades will make more sense in 6th edition, since we're almost certainly getting some kind of to hit modifiers back. Dunno if they'll be top-level competitive, but a unit that can grab objectives in early turns and be hard to hit while doing it would seem to have some usefulness. Same goes for Deathmarks and snipers in general for their ability to throw directed hits on stuff.
The characters aren't blowing me away, but I really like the rest of the models and kits The whole Necron line might be the second most improved line, next to DE.
1.) I updated the first post with all the new pics and prices.
2.) I like Zahndrekh and Szeras, the Wraiths seem a slight improvement, not a fan of the spyder (prefer bug form) and the walker (don't like having a driver), and find the tomb blades ridiculous like the concept art (flying armchair with gun following old flying lawnchair with gun). Good that there are always alternatives: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/408661.page 3.) Seems WD May will confirm a "Summer of Fliers" release in June, with Ork and SM flier certain and Necron flier very likely. So waiting should not take long and we can bury this thread before page 300
Kroothawk wrote:3.) Seems WD May will confirm a "Summer of Fliers" release in June, with Ork and SM flier certain and Necron flier very likely. So waiting should not take long and we can bury this thread before page 300
I'm of the opinion that regardless of when the 'fliers' come out, we should always refer to it as a 'Summer of Fliers'. 'Summer' should just be the collective noun for 40K fliers, like you have a murder of crows or a pack of wolves, we too should have a summer of fliers.
Anung Un Rama wrote:I'm dissapointed by the lack of Flyers in this wave. :(
Just further fuel for the 'Autumn of the Flyers" rumors that have been going around. I have a feeling that July will have more stuff going on than just the new rulebook... just a feeling. Some things that I'd like to see would be the starter set and flyer kits. I know, it would go against what GW has done in the past.
Does this mean we can expect the first big 40k expansion for the new edition around the same time the rulebook arrives. Should't they've included the DLC on the disc?
Anung Un Rama wrote:I'm dissapointed by the lack of Flyers in this wave. :(
Just further fuel for the 'Autumn of the Flyers" rumors that have been going around. I have a feeling that July will have more stuff going on than just the new rulebook... just a feeling. Some things that I'd like to see would be the starter set and flyer kits. I know, it would go against what GW has done in the past.
Does this mean we can expect the first big 40k expansion for the new edition around the same time the rulebook arrives. Should't they've included the DLC on the disc?
Not if they want to make you pay for the DLC... :-)
morgendonner wrote:The other thing that confuses me is why on the spyders it makes the back carapace gun mounting so pronounced, as if that was a major feature. Being I have 6 converted spyders, I might get 3 of these eventually, but I fear they will look bad next to each other.
Maybe because it is the only Necron model that doesn't have an underslung weapon, and thus is the only model that can hide behind cover and still shoot with TLOS.
morgendonner wrote:The other thing that confuses me is why on the spyders it makes the back carapace gun mounting so pronounced, as if that was a major feature. Being I have 6 converted spyders, I might get 3 of these eventually, but I fear they will look bad next to each other.
Maybe because it is the only Necron model that doesn't have an underslung weapon, and thus is the only model that can hide behind cover and still shoot with TLOS.
It's not a vehicle so it doesn't draw LOS from the barrel.
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