Hypothetically nothing should stop them from successfully siring children. None of the modifications should cause their sperm to have corkscrew tails, the main issue is that they have absolutely no interest in sexual relations at all. And no, the Primarchs took no wives because like their genetic sons, they also have zero interest in women or men. Godlings care not for the affairs of mortals, they're all aesexual.
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
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LethalShade wrote: Space Marines are completely sterile, IIRC. Pretty sure the Salamanders would be the only ones to take wives, though.
I don't know about Primarchs.
We don't know that they're sterile, we just know they have no interest at all in sexual relations.
Although anything is possible with Slaanesh. But they tend to get more of a sexualized high from mutilating people looking at Talon of Horus.
Hypothetically nothing should stop them from successfully siring children. None of the modifications should cause their sperm to have corkscrew tails, the main issue is that they have absolutely no interest in sexual relations at all. And no, the Primarchs took no wives because like their genetic sons, they also have zero interest in women or men. Godlings care not for the affairs of mortals, they're all aesexual.
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
Well, it would be interesting to have a lost chapter becoming an independent superhuman society with women and children. I don't really care about Space Marine sexuality, but about its implications.
Hypothetically nothing should stop them from successfully siring children. None of the modifications should cause their sperm to have corkscrew tails, the main issue is that they have absolutely no interest in sexual relations at all. And no, the Primarchs took no wives because like their genetic sons, they also have zero interest in women or men. Godlings care not for the affairs of mortals, they're all aesexual.
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
Well, it would be interesting to have a lost chapter becoming an independent superhuman society with women and children. I don't really about Space Marine sexuality, but about its implications.
More likely something results like the origin of Archaon from WHF when a Slaaneshi Warband decides to take some pleasure slaves from a world. Would be an interesting character to think of it.
I think you wouldn't obtain something even remotely superhuman from a space marine's offspring, as he cannot sexually transmit the gene-seed and organs that make him superhuman.
LethalShade wrote: Pretty sure the Salamanders would be the only ones to take wives, though.
IIRC the Salamanders don't - when the fluff talks about them keeping in contact with their families it means their parents and siblings, and later the children of their siblings.
Primarchs? Who knows. One would think warrior dudes rising to lead their worlds were also expected to keep consorts because they're so manly, but if any bothered it's now knowledge long lost in history. Leman Russ would surely have kept not one wife but a harem if he cared to do so.
I think it does say or imply that they are incapable of reproduction somewhere but, It's not very clear though.
GW always avoids stuff like that.
I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Magnus is described as being a giant, and Lorgar is still bigger than a human.
I think Alpharius was described as the smallest of the primarchs, capable of impersonating a space marine.
Space Marines are still bigger than a human though.
In one of the books (cant remeber which) someone shows up claiming to be the child of a spacemarine and no one immediatly dismisses them. So it seems possible although uncommon.
taurising wrote: In one of the books (cant remeber which) someone shows up claiming to be the child of a spacemarine and no one immediatly dismisses them. So it seems possible although uncommon.
Blenner was a lying bastard, and Gaunt probably didn't know whether Space Marines could reproduce at that age.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Well, the Emperor had biological sons.
He's a human who can supposedly change his appearance and size at will though.
I'm pretty sure the primarchs are always huge.
Alpharius and Omegon were smaller than the First captain of the Alpha legion. Alpharius is only Bulky on the tabletop vs Very bulky or Extremely bulky like the other Primarches
CthuluIsSpy wrote: I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Well, the Emperor had biological sons.
He's a human who can supposedly change his appearance and size at will though.
I'm pretty sure the primarchs are always huge.
Alpharius and Omegon were smaller than the First captain of the Alpha legion. Alpharius is only Bulky on the tabletop vs Very bulky or Extremely bulky like the other Primarches
Nope Guiliman is also Bulky IIRC, same for Lorgar, Fulgrim and others.
And I think I also remember that Alphomegon are taller than the first captain who is also smaller than the second captain. The one closest in size is actually the Captain of the Lernaean Terminator Elite Squads, who often played the role of Omegon, and even until his death.
From the wikia (and indirectly, from Legion) :
- Ingo Pech - First Captain of the Alpha Legion during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy era, Ingo Pech, like the majority of the Legionaries within the Alpha Legion, possessed strong physical similarities to his Primarch Alpharius, with a shaved head and gold-flecked brown eyes. Though he was physically smaller than some of the other Legionaries, he was quite strong.
- Sheed Ranko - Sheed Ranko was the master of the Alpha Legion's Lernaean Terminator Squads during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras, and was an especially large Astartes, who doubled well for both Omegon and Lord Alpharius in diplomatic circumstances.
nullBolt wrote: Just an element of curiosity for me. Can they have kids?
Also, did any of the primarchs have wives / children? Or is GW trying to convince us that supermen living amongst humans didn't take wives?
The idea of the primarchs was to fix one of the problems with human society. Any time there is a luminary person like Einsten, Da Vinci, Mandela, Bismarck, etcetera, they are limited by getting old, dying, alcoholism, vanity, arguments with their peers, being in the wrong country or under the wrong government. The primarchs were probably made so that any time a genius like this emerged, there would be a Primarch who could absorb and sustain their intellectual legacies, without being distracted by physical infirmities or personal problems.
Obviously then they were scattered and the Emperor had to forget building a great society organically, make space marines and start a crusade just to weld humanity together
CthuluIsSpy wrote: I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Well, the Emperor had biological sons.
He's a human who can supposedly change his appearance and size at will though.
I'm pretty sure the primarchs are always huge.
Alpharius and Omegon were smaller than the First captain of the Alpha legion. Alpharius is only Bulky on the tabletop vs Very bulky or Extremely bulky like the other Primarches
Nope Guiliman is also Bulky IIRC, same for Lorgar, Fulgrim and others.
And I think I also remember that Alphomegon are taller than the first captain who is also smaller than the second captain. The one closest in size is actually the Captain of the Lernaean Terminator Elite Squads, who often played the role of Omegon, and even until his death.
From the wikia (and indirectly, from Legion) :
- Ingo Pech - First Captain of the Alpha Legion during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy era, Ingo Pech, like the majority of the Legionaries within the Alpha Legion, possessed strong physical similarities to his Primarch Alpharius, with a shaved head and gold-flecked brown eyes. Though he was physically smaller than some of the other Legionaries, he was quite strong.
- Sheed Ranko - Sheed Ranko was the master of the Alpha Legion's Lernaean Terminator Squads during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras, and was an especially large Astartes, who doubled well for both Omegon and Lord Alpharius in diplomatic circumstances.
And you are correct. I checked one of my HH black books and Dorn and Corax were both Bulky...
Magnus is described as being a giant, and Lorgar is still bigger than a human.
I think Alpharius was described as the smallest of the primarchs, capable of impersonating a space marine.
This is all New Fluff, and I'm not sure how it meshes with Old Fluff, but Alpharius used to be among the tallest of Primarchs, almost as tall as Horus, and the Marines of his Legion were all Unusually Tall.
I think that the Alpha Legion Marines are still unusually tall, and that Alpharius and Omegon are now somewhat on the shorter side for Primarchs, so now unusually tall Alpha Legion Marines are able to impersonate the Primarchs, sometimes.
I am pretty sure Leman Russ had plenty of bastards running around. It would just fit his character so much. I don't think there is any fluff suggesting Space Marines can have or not have children, so just leave it up to your own fan-fluff.
Alpharius was the tallest of all Primarchs, Omegon the shortest. Or maybe the other way around. Or maybe they were neither tall nor short, or both at the same time... It depends on who you ask In any case, you should know because you are Alpharius. Or maybe Omegon. Or neither. Or both.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Well, the Emperor had biological sons.
The Emperor can change his form and appearance with a thought.
However, none of the systems that makes a Space Marine a Space Marine are passed through their genetics. These are all implanted organs. At the most, assuming that Space Marines can reproduce, you'd get big, heavy children.
In the old fluff Jaghatai Khan had a number of children, and if IIRC there was mention in the Space Hulk Deathwing story that one of the marines had direct descendants (probably from before he becomes a marine).
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
Because you can't have superman fantasies without making sure you can still achieve standard male success by being a total stud, I guess?
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I think it does say or imply that they are incapable of reproduction somewhere but, It's not very clear though.
GW always avoids stuff like that.
I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
Because you can't have superman fantasies without making sure you can still achieve standard male success by being a total stud, I guess?
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I think it does say or imply that they are incapable of reproduction somewhere but, It's not very clear though.
GW always avoids stuff like that.
I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
And why the hell is Space Marine sexuality such a damned common topic?
Because you can't have superman fantasies without making sure you can still achieve standard male success by being a total stud, I guess?
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I think it does say or imply that they are incapable of reproduction somewhere but, It's not very clear though.
GW always avoids stuff like that.
I think its for the best; it would be like a great dane mounting a chihuahua
Clearly as others have said, the extra organs, hardened skeleton, black carapace and all that good stuff doesn't actually change the persons DNA. So any offspring would just be Human.
Furyou Miko wrote: The DNA is changed to reduce the chance of the extra organs being rejected though.
And, don't forget, nearly every book featuring Space Marines talks about how they have Primach DNA infused with their own. The question, ultimately, is "can Primarchs mate with humans?" As this is never a question that will be answered by GW, due to the fact that they shun most sexual content like the plague (outside of a few books, such as Legion), we will never know whether or not Space Marines can actually have children.
Going by your article, Great Dane on Chihuahua didn't work.
They had to do Chihuahua on Dane. It involved a stepladder.
That is somewhat amusing.
Nah, Great dane has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of big-dog/small-dog hybrids out there - when the small dog is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.
After modifications they have no desire, but quite possible a randy 14 year old could knock up a girl and then be selected for Space Marine training. The baby would still be his, his genetics, just not the Geneseed genes.
Going by your article, Great Dane on Chihuahua didn't work.
They had to do Chihuahua on Dane. It involved a stepladder.
That is somewhat amusing.
Nah, Great dane has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of big-dog/small-dog hybrids out there - when the small dog is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.
Oh my... I'll just change the wording a little and...
''Nah, Space Marine has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of Space Marine/Human hybrids out there - when the small human is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.''
Going by your article, Great Dane on Chihuahua didn't work.
They had to do Chihuahua on Dane. It involved a stepladder.
That is somewhat amusing.
Nah, Great dane has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of big-dog/small-dog hybrids out there - when the small dog is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.
Oh my... I'll just change the wording a little and...
''Nah, Space Marine has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of Space Marine/Human hybrids out there - when the small human is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.''
Going by your article, Great Dane on Chihuahua didn't work.
They had to do Chihuahua on Dane. It involved a stepladder.
That is somewhat amusing.
Nah, Great dane has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of big-dog/small-dog hybrids out there - when the small dog is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.
Oh my... I'll just change the wording a little and...
''Nah, Space Marine has to lay down sometime. Nature finds a way. Plenty of Space Marine/Human hybrids out there - when the small human is the bitch, they generally have to C-section or both die.
Sister is a vet nurse.''
That's how the Emperor has children. Still wan't to be a Space Marine now?
Can't tell if trolling or serious...
Definitely trolling - I'd personally ignore that Wulfmar fella.
Please report to the Chapter Master's quarters for your final implant.
Also, Iron_Captain's wording on his post on page one sounds more like Sheogorath than a Dakka User.
Though if we could get some angel winged Sanguinius babies, I don't mind- oh wait, cherubs fill that role. Nevermind, please purge this thread... before it becomes a Dakka meme.
One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
Deadshot wrote: After modifications they have no desire, but quite possible a randy 14 year old could knock up a girl and then be selected for Space Marine training. The baby would still be his, his genetics, just not the Geneseed genes.
I don' get your point, of course if a boy get a girl pregnant before he is selected the baby won't get the geneseed but only his father's DNA. But that's a thing for any baby and father, nothing to do about Space Marines or even 40k. Or I missed something here.
Deadshot wrote: After modifications they have no desire, but quite possible a randy 14 year old could knock up a girl and then be selected for Space Marine training. The baby would still be his, his genetics, just not the Geneseed genes.
I don' get your point, of course if a boy get a girl pregnant before he is selected the baby won't get the geneseed but only his father's DNA. But that's a thing for any baby and father, nothing to do about Space Marines or even 40k. Or I missed something here.
The baby is the child of a space marine. If I had a child and then became a marine, the child is still mine, I'm still its biological father. It just doesn't have space marine geneseed DNA, obviously, but yes, in that way, its quite possible for Space Marines to be fathers. Except GW want to push a younger audience and the dicussion or even suggestion of sex or teen pregnancy will not never be canon.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Tactical_Spam wrote: I may need this literally spelled out as I'm not understanding this
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Deadshot wrote: After modifications they have no desire, but quite possible a randy 14 year old could knock up a girl and then be selected for Space Marine training. The baby would still be his, his genetics, just not the Geneseed genes.
I don' get your point, of course if a boy get a girl pregnant before he is selected the baby won't get the geneseed but only his father's DNA. But that's a thing for any baby and father, nothing to do about Space Marines or even 40k. Or I missed something here.
The baby is the child of a space marine. If I had a child and then became a marine, the child is still mine, I'm still its biological father. It just doesn't have space marine geneseed DNA, obviously, but yes, in that way, its quite possible for Space Marines to be fathers. Except GW want to push a younger audience and the dicussion or even suggestion of sex or teen pregnancy will not never be canon.
Oh ok I get it, in my mind we were still about already implanted marines being aple to reproduce, my bad.
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
That nearly killed me, but wait - no reference to Deep Strike? Guess this really is a case of 'And they shall know no Woman'
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
That nearly killed me, but wait - no reference to Deep Strike? Guess this really is a case of 'And they shall know no Woman'
Just remember where an Astartes goes, his battle brothers go with him.
Tactical_Spam wrote: I may need this literally spelled out as I'm not understanding this
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
Don't be silly, Inertial Guidance Systems make sure Marines never land in the wrong port...
Tactical_Spam wrote: I may need this literally spelled out as I'm not understanding this
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
Don't be silly, Inertial Guidance Systems make sure Marines never land in the wrong port...
Many a Marine believed this and found out the hard way when rolling on the Deep Strike Mishap Table. Rapid Insertion has its issues.
Okay I need to stop this heresy xD back to Netflix I go
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Maybe he's gay? Too heretical?
No, the point is that no Astartes have any sexual attraction to women besides the Space Wolves, and that's more out of tradition that legitimate lusting. Astartes are asexual and hypno-indoctrianted warriors, they have no need to sex and thus any desire for it is removed. Most likely by re-wiring their brain I imagine, as it would "only" be a matter of what triggers responses of pleasure in the brain. Swap with violence.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Maybe he's gay? Too heretical?
No, the point is that no Astartes have any sexual attraction to women besides the Space Wolves, and that's more out of tradition that legitimate lusting. Astartes are asexual and hypno-indoctrianted warriors, they have no need to sex and thus any desire for it is removed. Most likely by re-wiring their brain I imagine, as it would "only" be a matter of what triggers responses of pleasure in the brain. Swap with violence.
So if we are part dog, part marine, we like women? Do Space Wolves suck at indoctrination?
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Maybe he's gay? Too heretical?
No, the point is that no Astartes have any sexual attraction to women besides the Space Wolves, and that's more out of tradition that legitimate lusting. Astartes are asexual and hypno-indoctrianted warriors, they have no need to sex and thus any desire for it is removed. Most likely by re-wiring their brain I imagine, as it would "only" be a matter of what triggers responses of pleasure in the brain. Swap with violence.
So if we are part dog, part marine, we like women? Do Space Wolves suck at indoctrination?
Space Wolves are special snowflakes that ride giant wolves capable of ripping apart tanks with their paws into battle, wielding power axes that are better purely because they're frosty, and whose marines will randomly turn into werewolves if they completely lose control of themselves.
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits":
are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans
or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.
- The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Maybe he's gay? Too heretical?
No, the point is that no Astartes have any sexual attraction to women besides the Space Wolves, and that's more out of tradition that legitimate lusting. Astartes are asexual and hypno-indoctrianted warriors, they have no need to sex and thus any desire for it is removed. Most likely by re-wiring their brain I imagine, as it would "only" be a matter of what triggers responses of pleasure in the brain. Swap with violence.
So if we are part dog, part marine, we like women? Do Space Wolves suck at indoctrination?
Space Wolves are special snowflakes that ride giant wolves capable of ripping apart tanks with their paws into battle, wielding power axes that are better purely because they're frosty, and whose marines will randomly turn into werewolves if they completely lose control of themselves.
That should answer you question.
What's your point? They are the only chapter that's like "Yo dawg, we just won that battle against the dirty Magnus, let's turn up!"
bound for glory wrote: One night, our group had a back and forth about space marines "bits": are their "bits" the size of PRINGLES cans or are they like body builders on steroids, "all shrunk up".?
I’d also listened to her speak of the ordos and their politics. I’d heard tales of her past purges and operations that went awry. I’d learned Fenrisian curse words from her lips, and taught her many of the myriad ways of blocking incoming blows with a quarterstaff. On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel. Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it. - The Emperor's Gift
And the narator is a Spess Mahreen?
Yes. The joke being that Space Marines have what is exclusively software.
Just like the narrator, I don't get it.
The Space Marine is ideally sexually attractive to the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor laments his ascension, because he'd probably make a good lover if he wasn't impotent.
Maybe he's gay? Too heretical?
No, the point is that no Astartes have any sexual attraction to women besides the Space Wolves, and that's more out of tradition that legitimate lusting. Astartes are asexual and hypno-indoctrianted warriors, they have no need to sex and thus any desire for it is removed. Most likely by re-wiring their brain I imagine, as it would "only" be a matter of what triggers responses of pleasure in the brain. Swap with violence.
So if we are part dog, part marine, we like women? Do Space Wolves suck at indoctrination?
Space Wolves are special snowflakes that ride giant wolves capable of ripping apart tanks with their paws into battle, wielding power axes that are better purely because they're frosty, and whose marines will randomly turn into werewolves if they completely lose control of themselves.
That should answer you question.
What's your point? They are the only chapter that's like "Yo dawg, we just won that battle against the dirty Magnus, let's turn up!"
Then we get puppies....
They want to be different, so they mount women as well as wolves. Something that has to do with their sense of independence.
Tactical_Spam wrote: I may need this literally spelled out as I'm not understanding this
The chick he's with thinks he has a hot body and possibly a huge penis, and is really sad that as a space marine, he lacks the mind set to give her the emperor's divine touch / penetrate her rear armor value / make like the tau and perform rapid insertion tactics etc etc you get the idea.
Don't be silly, Inertial Guidance Systems make sure Marines never land in the wrong port...
Its difficult to correctly calibrate such systems, when one has no experience in the matter
"I talked to the chaplain, and apparently I have to pee in her butt"
Space Wolves are derived from Viking stereotypes, and along with other (pre)medieval warrior archtypes, it involves large amounts of time in taverns, quaffing ale to see who's the best, grabbing wenches as they walk past and then making a big show of carrying the prettiest young barmaid off to bed.
Deadshot wrote: Space Wolves are derived from Viking stereotypes, and along with other (pre)medieval warrior archtypes, it involves large amounts of time in taverns, quaffing ale to see who's the best, grabbing wenches as they walk past and then making a big show of carrying the prettiest young barmaid off to bed.
So all we need is a chapter that fits some stereotype about something to get what we want?
Now that I think about it, unless you really love the Grimderp of the 41st millenia, I think Space Marines are capable of having offspring; however they do not "get turned on"
Deadshot wrote: Space Wolves are derived from Viking stereotypes, and along with other (pre)medieval warrior archtypes, it involves large amounts of time in taverns, quaffing ale to see who's the best, grabbing wenches as they walk past and then making a big show of carrying the prettiest young barmaid off to bed.
So all we need is a chapter that fits some stereotype about something to get what we want?
Sure, isn't that how 40k works? Space Wolves probably don't actually bang the women but the impression if the act due to their viking basis.
Well, is it immature to discuss the implication of superhuman soldiers having children and families ? I don't think so.
In a mature manner, yes. Not like how it has been discussed so far.
So its okay to seriously discuss in a heated debate fictional race of super soldiers with no sex drive having sex and kids as if it were the news of the day, but when we have a laugh about the absurdity of a scenario in a novel whereby a Marine is clueless about being desirable, and make rather amusing jokes with 40k rules fluff as innuendo, that's when it becomes immature.
So its okay to seriously discuss in a heated debate fictional race of super soldiers with no sex drive having sex and kids as if it were the news of the day, but when we have a laugh about the absurdity of a scenario in a novel whereby a Marine is clueless about being desirable, and make rather amusing jokes with 40k rules fluff as innuendo, that's when it becomes immature.
So its okay to seriously discuss in a heated debate fictional race of super soldiers with no sex drive having sex and kids as if it were the news of the day, but when we have a laugh about the absurdity of a scenario in a novel whereby a Marine is clueless about being desirable, and make rather amusing jokes with 40k rules fluff as innuendo, that's when it becomes immature.
So its okay to seriously discuss in a heated debate fictional race of super soldiers with no sex drive having sex and kids as if it were the news of the day, but when we have a laugh about the absurdity of a scenario in a novel whereby a Marine is clueless about being desirable, and make rather amusing jokes with 40k rules fluff as innuendo, that's when it becomes immature.
Who "we"?
I've never found that amusing.
I am not a licensed Apothecary, but I can do funny bone transplants under the table.
Reading over the process of making a Space Marine, the biology may not be directly affected (that is, they didn't castrate recruits), but you can make an argument that their indoctrination leaves out such desires as unworthy of a Space Marine.
I would think that any Space Marine chapter that has its members taking women and making children would be seen as breaking the rules. Angels of Death serving the Emperor as warriors don't go screwing around and being fathers, is what I'd think most Chaplains would say.
But I suppose if you discount some undisclosed canon statement by GW, then yes they "can" have kids....in the same way most monks and nuns can have sex and have babies: they probably have oaths that forego such carnal pleasures as excesses.
flirice wrote: Reading over the process of making a Space Marine, the biology may not be directly affected (that is, they didn't castrate recruits), but you can make an argument that their indoctrination leaves out such desires as unworthy of a Space Marine.
I would think that any Space Marine chapter that has its members taking women and making children would be seen as breaking the rules. Angels of Death serving the Emperor as warriors don't go screwing around and being fathers, is what I'd think most Chaplains would say.
But I suppose if you discount some undisclosed canon statement by GW, then yes they "can" have kids....in the same way most monks and nuns can have sex and have babies: they probably have oaths that forego such carnal pleasures as excesses.
It's the EC. If there isn't a hole, they will make one. They care not for such mundane topics such as "gender" or "organic".
IRT other Marines, though, I am pretty certain part of the hypno-indoctrination is to channel natural sexual urges into warfare and violence. Space Marines eat, drink and breathe combat, all else is a distraction.
Camp Follower/Chapter Serf: "Sir Astartes! I shall wait for you, and one day I shall again oil and polish your bolter!"
Brother Spartalicious: "Uh, yeah. Whatever. Look, I'll vox you next time I'm in town and then I'll regale you with tales of daring and valor."
Marine Chapter with Chapter Flaw: Snu-Snu:
Camp Follower/Chapter Serf: "Sir Astartes! Sir Astartes! I bring you your son! He shall grow healthy and true and bring honor to your chapter's name!"
Brother Babydaddicus: "Whoa! Hey, what do you know? Look at the time! Gotta go form up for that there one-way crusade against impossible odds. Nope, we probably won't ever see each other again, whoever you are!"
Psienesis wrote: It's the EC. If there isn't a hole, they will make one. They care not for such mundane topics such as "gender" or "organic".
IRT other Marines, though, I am pretty certain part of the hypno-indoctrination is to channel natural sexual urges into warfare and violence. Space Marines eat, drink and breathe combat, all else is a distraction.
