For a moment there, I had hopes, that these are ships of some new higly advanced, twisted, elegant race. Not DE.
Some race that couldn`t be described with "2 legs, 2 arms, 1 head, body"
Well, here`s hoping, that plastic tzeench stuff is about - a lot of people would be happy!
I do like how they are slipping in some snark on some of this stuff. "What's going on there? We don't know, but it looks awesome (unless you're a Space Wolf. Then it looks potentially less awesome...) "
Vankraken wrote: As much as a grudge match between the Wolves and 1K Sons sounds awesome. I'm just sitting here hoping we get some Grey Knight formations out of this.
Well, the Blood Angels put in a request for aid to the Grey Knights for movement against the Chaos Space Marines in the Diamor System. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something in the near future. But if the Grey Knights are messing around on Fenris and the Blood Angels need them to act in the Diamor System, how are the poor Grey Knights going to make this work?
Currently there's only like 11 Grey Knights left in the Fenris System (5 Paladins/Terminators, 5 PAGK and Stern). The rest of the strike force was all slain by Daemons and Alpha Legion operatives.
Vankraken wrote: As much as a grudge match between the Wolves and 1K Sons sounds awesome. I'm just sitting here hoping we get some Grey Knight formations out of this.
Well, the Blood Angels put in a request for aid to the Grey Knights for movement against the Chaos Space Marines in the Diamor System. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something in the near future. But if the Grey Knights are messing around on Fenris and the Blood Angels need them to act in the Diamor System, how are the poor Grey Knights going to make this work?
Multitasking? I mean other chapters can have company here, 2 companies there so why not GK?
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Currently there's only like 11 Grey Knights left in the Fenris System (5 Paladins/Terminators, 5 PAGK and Stern). The rest of the strike force was all slain by Daemons and Alpha Legion operatives.
Vankraken wrote: As much as a grudge match between the Wolves and 1K Sons sounds awesome. I'm just sitting here hoping we get some Grey Knight formations out of this.
Well, the Blood Angels put in a request for aid to the Grey Knights for movement against the Chaos Space Marines in the Diamor System. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something in the near future. But if the Grey Knights are messing around on Fenris and the Blood Angels need them to act in the Diamor System, how are the poor Grey Knights going to make this work?
Multitasking? I mean other chapters can have company here, 2 companies there so why not GK?
The above post addresses my concerns. Not really multitasking even. Grey Knights will probably be in supplement #3 for Black Crusade, if there is one.
Sweet!! Time for some more dark angels datasheets, and maybe some that let a deathwing player use them solo.
Time for the dark angels to kill off those mutated wolves (wulfen at least )
Hoping for: dark angels, deathwatch, grey knights, and alpha legion data sheets (space wolves have recieved enough... 4 to books to be exact; a codex, supplement, and two campaign books)
455_PWR wrote: Sweet!! Time for some more dark angels datasheets, and maybe some that let a deathwing player use them solo.
Time for the dark angels to kill off those mutated wolves (wulfen at least )
Hoping for: dark angels, deathwatch, grey knights, and alpha legion data sheets (space wolves have recieved enough... 4 to books to be exact; a codex, supplement, and two campaign books)
Well, you can expect that, but I am willing to bet it will be Thousand Sons and that's it.
According to Sad Panda, plastic Ahriman will be released before daemon primarch Magnus. Ahriman is a HH model and part of the next HH board game - SP also posted the game will be released in fall 2016 but gave no specific month.
That's all the info we have at the moment.
GW seem to have changed their attitude a bit and tease at least two weeks in advance as we can see by this and the GSC video. Warzone Fenris II could be anytime from early October to late December.
What is this dual kit? You mean the board game?
Edit: 'Frosty' was a joke, 'GW and advertisement.... hell freezes over'
Warzone Fenris I - Curse of the Wulfen (GW) ending
- Spoiler -
Robbie MacNiven
War Zone Fenris - the Situation So Far
For those of you who haven’t yet purchased either the novel or the beautifully illustrated rules/narrative package (and I really recommend you do, they’re amazing), massive spoilers under the cut.
The Wulfen have started randomly reappearing from the warp across the Imperium. This frequently coincides with massive daemonic incursions.
The Space Wolves rush to collect the Wulfen before the Imperium discovers them, however the Dark Angels stumble upon them. Both they and the Grey Knights set out to investigate.
There is a huge outbreak of daemonic invasions in the Fenris system - although Fenris itself isn’t attacked, its moon as well as the worlds of Midgardia and Frostheim, and Frostheim’s moon Svellgard, are overrun. The Alpha Legion seizes Morkai’s Keep on Frostheim.
The Space Wolves rush back to reclaim the Fenris System.The first Great Companies back are those of Grimnar, Egil Iron Wolf, Harald Deathwolf and Sven Bloodhowl. Krom Dragongaze is already defending the Fang. Ragnar Blackmane and Bran Redmaw are inbound.
Grimnar and Egil attack the daemons on Midgardia but their assault stalls and Grimnar is lost during a subterranean cave-in fighting four Daemon Princes.
Sven drives the daemons back on Svellgard.
Harald recaptures Morkai’s Keep from the Alpha Legion.
Krom leaves Fenris for its moon to assist the Grey Knights, who have just arrived. They manage to foil a Tzeentch plot to frame the Wolves as traitors in front of the rest of the Imperium.
Just as it seems as though the daemons are being defeated a crusade fleet of 13 Space Marine Chapters arrives, led by the Dark Angels.
Manipulated by the Changeling, they open fire across the Fenris system…
1) Ragnar and company enter onto the Rock, Stern notices the changing and Azrael with the guest follow it down into the vaults where the unforgiving are hidden.
2) Some one is coming, likely Magnus but it could be anyone.
3) Great wolf still not found
4) Bran redmaw turned the tide at the battle of Svellgard, all warp rifts closed
5) Changling defeated and ran away.
6) Crusade fleet pulled back to systems edge, Iron-Captain mad that he has to do so.
7) Wolves return to Fenris, Kjarl Grimblood is on his way back to the system, the wolves are regrouping and redeploying some warriors to garrison the World Wolfs Lair on Svellgard.
8) Harald Deathwolf is pushing the notion that the wolves should find a way to artificially restrain the Canis Helix
That all seems plausible but super lame, especially the whole "artificially restraining the Canis Helix" thing, considering the 1kS sacrificed an enormous amount of men and materiel to prevent exactly that outcome in the Battle of the Fang.
The whole wrap up section is kind of "meh," with nothing really changing unless the Space Wolves discover that the BA are all secret heretics when they wander down into the vaults.
I don't need them to advance the plot, but it would be nice to have a warzone campaign end in something other than the status quo ante.
Azrael allows Stern and Blackmane to enter the depths of the Rock with him as they pursue the Changeling. They team up to try and banish it, then Azrael orders the Crusade fleet to pull back to the edge of the system while everyone cools off a bit and takes stock of the situation.
The Watchers in the Dark stop the Changeling from releasing the Fallen. It was probably my favourite little scene in the book
The Crusade fleet was divided in two - the Ultramarines, Iron Hands and a detachment of Shadow Haunters headed to Svellgard and Frostheim, while the remaining Chapters (Dark Angels, Doom Griffons, Howling Griffons, Red Consuls, Guardians of the Covenant, the rest of the Shadow Haunters and the five other unspecified Chapters involved) held positions above Midgardian.
My first thought is that it sees kind of risky to have the Chapter homes of 2 Chapters in the same place. Just asking for something really bad to happen.
Secondly, is there a chance for a third book that will see the manifestation of Demon Prince Magnus and and the Return of the Lion and/or Russ?
Clearly Primarchs sell as evidenced by the success of 30K, and with most of the mystery of them kind of out of the bag now, and with what appears to be a more open-minded and progressive GW creative team, now would appear to be the right time to start selling $100+ dollar Primarchs and Demon Princes to the 40K crowd.
Curse of the Wulfen campaign book and novel, and Legacy of the Russ (the novel/ebook series between Fenris I and II)
Also interesting
Fang_Guard23 - B&C
+++FENRIS SYSTEM ASSESTS LOST+++
+MIDGARDIA+
Asset: Nova Cannon
Designation: Emperor's Judgement
Status: likely still intact, but currently unmanned
+VOID+
Asset: Ramilles class starfort
Designation: Gormenjarl
Status: Chaos daemon infestation, bombarded by space wolves vessel at the command of Brother-Captain Stern of the Grey Knights
Asset: Ramilles Class Starfort
Designation: Mjalnar
Status: Cleared of chaos taint, currently unmanned and awaiting approval to garrison
+VALDRMANI+
Asset: Long range vox hub
Designation: Longhowl
Status: population lost and astropaths dead
+FROSTHEIM+
Asset: Secondary defense fortress
Designation: Morkai's Keep
Status: destroyed, currently sealing warp rift within dungeon of ruined fort
+SVELLGARD+
Asset: orbital system defense nexus
Designation: World Wolf's Lair
Status: Currently unmanned and awaiting reinforcement
Automatically Appended Next Post: According to Robbie MacNiven his Legacy of the Russ series will be released as a printed novel this year as well
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Kendo
The Primarchs will return in 40k according to our most reliable sources - who havent been wrong for at least two years. Plastic Magnus will be first, in his 40k daemon form, in late 2016 or early 2017.
Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
The Primarchs will return in 40k according to our most reliable sources - who havent been wrong for at least two years. Plastic Magnus will be first, in his 40k daemon form, in late 2016 or early 2017.
I believe you. I was just agreeing with you, for what its worth.
Roknar wrote: Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
Because he has stupid levels of plot armor. He shouldn't be able to. But he's a SM and a Wolflord. Being able to topple Abbadon might be possible for him, but 4 DPs should be impossible. He's rolling into Mary Sue town to have a drink with Draigo.
So was the Chaos plan to have the wider Imperium turn on the wolves by exposing the Wulfen secret? Or expose the Dark angels? A distraction so there are less forces at Cadia for the 13th black crusade? All of the above? Might have to get caught up on this particular story line.
Oh and silver tower deep striking fortifications? A guy can dream right?
Roknar wrote: Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
Because he has stupid levels of plot armor. He shouldn't be able to. But he's a SM and a Wolflord. Being able to topple Abbadon might be possible for him, but 4 DPs should be impossible. He's rolling into Mary Sue town to have a drink with Draigo.
Just now? Space Wolves usually stay around that level.
Grimnar, Ulrik, and his entire first company + Wulfen + Egils terminators
fought 4 deamon princes and hordes of deamons.
Non of the deamon princes died, it was a ploy to get grimnar and his force down there, open warp rifts and leave, causing the cavern to destabilize and collapse.
AS of the end of the legacy of russ series, Grimnar is still missing as are the living member of the assault force.
They've found chunks of grimnars armor so far.
so people getting perturbed about strenght levels of grimnar obviously havent read the books.
Well I do recall rumors said this will be the year of tzeentch. For AOS and 40k. The last AOS campaign book has tzeentch's sliver towers appearing in reality on the very last page.
Triszin wrote: Grimnar, Ulrik, and his entire first company + Wulfen + Egils terminators
fought 4 deamon princes and hordes of deamons.
Non of the deamon princes died, it was a ploy to get grimnar and his force down there, open warp rifts and leave, causing the cavern to destabilize and collapse.
AS of the end of the legacy of russ series, Grimnar is still missing as are the living member of the assault force.
They've found chunks of grimnars armor so far.
so people getting perturbed about strenght levels of grimnar obviously havent read the books.
Roknar wrote: Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
Because he has stupid levels of plot armor. He shouldn't be able to. But he's a SM and a Wolflord. Being able to topple Abbadon might be possible for him, but 4 DPs should be impossible. He's rolling into Mary Sue town to have a drink with Draigo.
Just now? Space Wolves usually stay around that level.
I didn't even blink when I read that, I remember when I read Battle of the Fang, when Magnus, the primarch who was famed for destroying several titans alone by waving at them with an angry fist, shows up immortal and more powerful than ever, he proceeds to nonchalantly wreck the living gak out of everything with little to no effort UNTIL he makes the mistake of attacking the ones with plot armour, literally gets punched to near death and is abolished shortly after getting his ass kicked... Shame, I thought it was a decent book up until that...
Roknar wrote: Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
Because he has stupid levels of plot armor. He shouldn't be able to. But he's a SM and a Wolflord. Being able to topple Abbadon might be possible for him, but 4 DPs should be impossible. He's rolling into Mary Sue town to have a drink with Draigo.
Just now? Space Wolves usually stay around that level.
I didn't even blink when I read that, I remember when I read Battle of the Fang, when Magnus, the primarch who was famed for destroying several titans alone by waving at them with an angry fist, shows up immortal and more powerful than ever, he proceeds to nonchalantly wreck the living gak out of everything with little to no effort UNTIL he makes the mistake of attacking the ones with plot armour, literally gets punched to near death and is abolished shortly after getting his ass kicked... Shame, I thought it was a decent book up until that...
Then you've got the Inquisitorial War, Grimnar killing a Grey Knight Master easily... Space Wolves have always been over the top.
... Which reminds me, why exactly are the Space Wolves tolerated after showing hostility towards the inquisition, killing grey knights and having a chapter master that wields a daemonic weapon? I mean, wtf.
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Then you've got the Inquisitorial War, Grimnar killing a Grey Knight Master easily... Space Wolves have always been over the top.
And at that point he didnt even have his wolfy jingle bells sleigh! Grimar is That Good!
Really looking forward to some proper tzeench stuff, but if those are actual silver towers, Im quite dissapointed. I thought they would be more like... towers.
Looks a bit like a daemonic drop pod assault, just with huge drop vessels.
But I guess with the silver tower game, an in game model would be kind of awkward.
So if Azrael allowed Blackmane and Stern to go deep into the Rock to where the fallen are kept, is the big secret out in the open similar to the wolves and the wulfen?
Is there any chance we could collect all relevant rumors in the OP? I know that Lady Atia has discussed what's in the upcoming release, but can't find where at the moment.
Zewrath wrote: ... Which reminds me, why exactly are the Space Wolves tolerated after showing hostility towards the inquisition, killing grey knights and having a chapter master that wields a daemonic weapon? I mean, wtf.
Because the Space Wolves are the Emperor's executioners and answer only to him.
Zewrath wrote: ... Which reminds me, why exactly are the Space Wolves tolerated after showing hostility towards the inquisition, killing grey knights and having a chapter master that wields a daemonic weapon? I mean, wtf.
Because the Space Wolves are the Emperor's executioners and answer only to him.
Well they don't answer to anyone since the Emperor is a vegetable and HLoT would probably cover it up if the Big E started talking anyways.
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Then you've got the Inquisitorial War, Grimnar killing a Grey Knight Master easily... Space Wolves have always been over the top.
And at that point he didnt even have his wolfy jingle bells sleigh! Grimar is That Good!
Really looking forward to some proper tzeench stuff, but if those are actual silver towers, Im quite dissapointed. I thought they would be more like... towers.
Looks a bit like a daemonic drop pod assault, just with huge drop vessels.
But I guess with the silver tower game, an in game model would be kind of awkward.
To be fair, it's Tzeentch built, they could just be more mutated then the average silver towers, or just uniquely built and constantly shifting and swirling into new forms.
Roknar wrote: Wait, I know Grimnar is supposed to be super bad ass, but fighting four daemon princes simultaneously? I'm not up to speed on how strong a DP is supposed to be in the fluff but that seems like hogwash to me. How does that make sense?
Because he has stupid levels of plot armor. He shouldn't be able to. But he's a SM and a Wolflord. Being able to topple Abbadon might be possible for him, but 4 DPs should be impossible. He's rolling into Mary Sue town to have a drink with Draigo.
Just now? Space Wolves usually stay around that level.
I didn't even blink when I read that, I remember when I read Battle of the Fang, when Magnus, the primarch who was famed for destroying several titans alone by waving at them with an angry fist, shows up immortal and more powerful than ever, he proceeds to nonchalantly wreck the living gak out of everything with little to no effort UNTIL he makes the mistake of attacking the ones with plot armour, literally gets punched to near death and is abolished shortly after getting his ass kicked... Shame, I thought it was a decent book up until that...
I'm starting to second guess my decision to subscribe to 40k legends XD.
warboss wrote: So if Azrael allowed Blackmane and Stern to go deep into the Rock to where the fallen are kept, is the big secret out in the open similar to the wolves and the wulfen?
Wait a minute, just hold up. Azrael allowed Blackmane and some other SW into a section of the Rock they've murdered Inquisitors for even *asking* about? So now the SW know the DA entire dark-secret/hidden darkness thing (which I actually really like), which means everyone knows about it?
Hang on there's just something a little off about that. Granted pretty much every 40k player knows that the Rock is the remains of Caliban, the Fall of the 1st, and all that but it was a pretty big deal about how no-one else in the Imperium knows about it, but we're just letting Wolves stroll around the Rock now?
Stern of the Grey Knights, who apparently actually knew about the DA's dark little secret all along really they just didn't care. (The Fallen, likely not the Rock's full secrets)
I'm so bored of Space Wolf Mary Sueism. I really hope the entire chapter gets erased at this point, the models have become daft, the rules overblown, the whole concept jumped the shark by 5th ed. Wipe them all the hell out.
MeanGreenStompa wrote: I'm so bored of Space Wolf Mary Sueism. I really hope the entire chapter gets erased at this point, the models have become daft, the rules overblown, the whole concept jumped the shark by 5th ed. Wipe them all the hell out.
Zewrath wrote:... Which reminds me, why exactly are the Space Wolves tolerated after showing hostility towards the inquisition, killing grey knights and having a chapter master that wields a daemonic weapon? I mean, wtf.
This is nothing compared to Grey Knights killing Sisters of Battle so they can apply their blood to their armour?
Or game wise Space Marines especially Grey Knights summoning deamons on the battlefield? Now that is WTF?!
Eldarain wrote: The axe Morkai was taken from a Khorne Champion (I think) then reforged etc.
Yep, which is exactly the same as Marneus Calgar using fists taken from a chaos champion too. Neither of them are demon weapons though, of course.
Personally I love how weird the Space Wolves are. Anyone that wants to run a basic space marine chapter can run their light grey space marines using Codex Spade Marines, model them with axes and beards if you prefer. It's win win.
I reckon the Wolves leaders can keep a secret. Especially if it means the unforgiven chapters will support them when the Imperium starts asking questions about the Wulfen.
Eldarain wrote: The axe Morkai was taken from a Khorne Champion (I think) then reforged etc.
Yep, which is exactly the same as Marneus Calgar using fists taken from a chaos champion too. Neither of them are demon weapons though, of course.
Personally I love how weird the Space Wolves are. Anyone that wants to run a basic space marine chapter can run their light grey space marines using Codex Spade Marines, model them with axes and beards if you prefer. It's win win.
The Axe of Morkai was a Daemon Weapon though, it was a Daemon Axe taken from a champion of chaos that held a Greater Daemon. Unless that was changed in fluff.
Zewrath wrote:... Which reminds me, why exactly are the Space Wolves tolerated after showing hostility towards the inquisition, killing grey knights and having a chapter master that wields a daemonic weapon? I mean, wtf.
This is nothing compared to Grey Knights killing Sisters of Battle so they can apply their blood to their armour?
Or game wise Space Marines especially Grey Knights summoning deamons on the battlefield? Now that is WTF?!
As slowed as that piece of fluff was, along with Draigo doing dirty stuff with Mortarions heart, it still makes sense... Sorta.. To my knowledge every single human that encounters Grey Knights gets executed, especially if they've been in the near vicinity of daemons so those sisters were bound to get killed one way or another.
Also, I don't think GK have acces to anything but santic daemonology or am I remembering it wrong?
MeanGreenStompa wrote: I'm so bored of Space Wolf Mary Sueism. I really hope the entire chapter gets erased at this point, the models have become daft, the rules overblown, the whole concept jumped the shark by 5th ed. Wipe them all the hell out.
Swampmist wrote: far as I can tell from earlier posts, He let them in because the changeling was down there, about to let all of the fallen out and he needed the help.
Even better, the DA needed the help of some plot armoured furry marine instead of doing it themselves.
Sorry for the bitterness and I get that there's a lot of love for the Space Furries but... you wouldn't get a piece of fiction like that in reverse, where the SW needed the help of someone else to deal with a problem they have in-house as it were. Especially if said problem wsa an integra; part of the Furries...
On a lighter note that art of DA ships blowing the heck out of that Tzeentch fleet is pretty awesome.
Eldarain wrote: The axe Morkai was taken from a Khorne Champion (I think) then reforged etc.
Yep, which is exactly the same as Marneus Calgar using fists taken from a chaos champion too. Neither of them are demon weapons though, of course.
Personally I love how weird the Space Wolves are. Anyone that wants to run a basic space marine chapter can run their light grey space marines using Codex Spade Marines, model them with axes and beards if you prefer. It's win win.
The Axe of Morkai was a Daemon Weapon though, it was a Daemon Axe taken from a champion of chaos that held a Greater Daemon. Unless that was changed in fluff.
Weird, where is that from? I only have the 5th and newer codex.
Though that would make Logan an even bigger badass since he is obviously in control lol...
I'm just waiting for the Relictors to swoop in with all their chaos artifacts, save the day, and relish in the fact they are destroying chaos with their own power. The Space Wolves had some nice goodies jacked from them, they know the brunt of how that went.
Wont happen though. Be prepared for mass unifying of marine chapters to one super bland one when this is all over. But hey if Papa Smurf returns that must mean Calgar dies, rejoice!
Pariah-Miniatures wrote: I'm just waiting for the Relictors to swoop in with all their chaos artifacts, save the day, and relish in the fact they are destroying chaos with their own power. The Space Wolves had some nice goodies jacked from them, they know the brunt of how that went.
Wont happen though. Be prepared for mass unifying of marine chapters to one super bland one when this is all over. But hey if Papa Smurf returns that must mean Calgar dies, rejoice!
I'm sorry, what did Calgar do wrong compared to what is probably your favorite special snowflake?
I don't have a favorite character. But the idea is that there can only be one poster boy for the Ultra. Calgar still has a resin model. If an end times scenario happens and big Papa returns from stasis, this could mean a change just as it could mean a shift in the in all special characters from the inevitable aftermath. That is, should GW actually want to change and rustle the 40k setting.
Pariah-Miniatures wrote: I don't have a favorite character. But the idea is that there can only be one poster boy for the Ultra. Calgar still has a resin model. If an end times scenario happens and big Papa returns from stasis, this could mean a change just as it could mean a shift in the in all special characters from the inevitable aftermath. That is, should GW actually want to change and rustle the 40k setting.
If you don't like the Calgar model, scratch build one. Two power Fists and combi-bolter bitz on them.
Eldarain wrote: The axe Morkai was taken from a Khorne Champion (I think) then reforged etc.
Yep, which is exactly the same as Marneus Calgar using fists taken from a chaos champion too. Neither of them are demon weapons though, of course.
Personally I love how weird the Space Wolves are. Anyone that wants to run a basic space marine chapter can run their light grey space marines using Codex Spade Marines, model them with axes and beards if you prefer. It's win win.
The Axe of Morkai was a Daemon Weapon though, it was a Daemon Axe taken from a champion of chaos that held a Greater Daemon. Unless that was changed in fluff.
Weird, where is that from? I only have the 5th and newer codex.
Though that would make Logan an even bigger badass since he is obviously in control lol...
Swampmist wrote: far as I can tell from earlier posts, He let them in because the changeling was down there, about to let all of the fallen out and he needed the help.
Even better, the DA needed the help of some plot armoured furry marine instead of doing it themselves.
Sorry for the bitterness and I get that there's a lot of love for the Space Furries but... you wouldn't get a piece of fiction like that in reverse, where the SW needed the help of someone else to deal with a problem they have in-house as it were. Especially if said problem wsa an integra; part of the Furries...
On a lighter note that art of DA ships blowing the heck out of that Tzeentch fleet is pretty awesome.
Except that is exactly what happened. The Wolves would have lost already without the help of the Grey Knights, Ironhands, and even the Dark Angels. I have ready many situations in BL novels involving other chapters that made me go 'hmmm really? that happened" Heck didn't Kharn just kill a titan.
Swampmist wrote: far as I can tell from earlier posts, He let them in because the changeling was down there, about to let all of the fallen out and he needed the help.
Even better, the DA needed the help of some plot armoured furry marine instead of doing it themselves.
Sorry for the bitterness and I get that there's a lot of love for the Space Furries but... you wouldn't get a piece of fiction like that in reverse, where the SW needed the help of someone else to deal with a problem they have in-house as it were. Especially if said problem wsa an integra; part of the Furries...
On a lighter note that art of DA ships blowing the heck out of that Tzeentch fleet is pretty awesome.
Except that is exactly what happened. The Wolves would have lost already without the help of the Grey Knights, Ironhands, and even the Dark Angels. I have ready many situations in BL novels involving other chapters that made me go 'hmmm really? that happened" Heck didn't Kharn just kill a titan.
In which book do the space wolves enter the rock and help them defeat the changeling? is that in war zone fenris part 1? or are there novels as well?
I thought Kharn had killed a titan before. Not sure he did it with such ease though. In Traitors hate it's almost as though titans were just another obstacle in his way to next skull.
Swampmist wrote: far as I can tell from earlier posts, He let them in because the changeling was down there, about to let all of the fallen out and he needed the help.
Even better, the DA needed the help of some plot armoured furry marine instead of doing it themselves.
Sorry for the bitterness and I get that there's a lot of love for the Space Furries but... you wouldn't get a piece of fiction like that in reverse, where the SW needed the help of someone else to deal with a problem they have in-house as it were. Especially if said problem wsa an integra; part of the Furries...
On a lighter note that art of DA ships blowing the heck out of that Tzeentch fleet is pretty awesome.
Except that is exactly what happened. The Wolves would have lost already without the help of the Grey Knights, Ironhands, and even the Dark Angels. I have ready many situations in BL novels involving other chapters that made me go 'hmmm really? that happened" Heck didn't Kharn just kill a titan.
In which book do the space wolves enter the rock and help them defeat the changeling? is that in war zone fenris part 1? or are there novels as well?
It was in the eight part e-book series called Legacy of Russ written by Robbie MacNiven. It wasn't really the space wolves. It was Ragnar, Stern, and a inquisitor.
Roknar wrote: I thought Kharn had killed a titan before. Not sure he did it with such ease though. In Traitors hate it's almost as though titans were just another obstacle in his way to next skull.
I think someone did the math and calculated that Kharn could kill an average of 3,5 knight titans if he charged them one after another and was more likely to die from the catastrophic explosion result than actually dying from a knight in CC, so in the light of that information that wouldn't be so far fetched.
I'm just finding it ironic they are using big-ass icicles to destroy Fenris. Maybe they are made from the same magic ice as those frost claw spike things?
So what actually happened in the first fenris campaign book when the Dark Angel fleet fired? Did they fire on the space wolves fleet? On a planet? Was there any actual effect or did all those nova cannons, nuclear torpedoes, and lance batteries just *poof* disappear with a successful 2+ plot armor save?
Roknar wrote: I thought Kharn had killed a titan before. Not sure he did it with such ease though. In Traitors hate it's almost as though titans were just another obstacle in his way to next skull.
They were just obstacles. Titans, knights etc all just minor inconveniences for Khârn
Roknar wrote: I thought Kharn had killed a titan before. Not sure he did it with such ease though. In Traitors hate it's almost as though titans were just another obstacle in his way to next skull.
Angron killed a titan in Betrayer. I don't recall Kharn killing one.
Roknar wrote: I thought Kharn had killed a titan before. Not sure he did it with such ease though. In Traitors hate it's almost as though titans were just another obstacle in his way to next skull.
Angron killed a titan in Betrayer. I don't recall Kharn killing one.
I vaguely remember something like him scaling the titan and jumping into the cockpit to kill the pilot. Could just as likely have been angron though.
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. Kinda wish daemon magnus showed up though. The weird crystal tower ships are cool tho.
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my bad
