https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/02/let-your-soul-be-armoured-with-faith

Looks a bit like a flying Land Raider. I like it.

I am conflicted. It looks like the bastard child of a three way between a land raider, rhino and taurox (the turret looks more IG than astartes).

Makes me kinda glad that my Nids are more useful now. I can quietly pretend that the marines don't exist.

Well grav raiders were a thing in the heresy.

Model looks a bit too busy though.

I... don't even know how to react to this.

It looks like a Frankenstein of Space Marine tech.

Hm. Can't say I like it. Not that I have any really hard feelings about it one way or the other, but I wouldn't get one even if I played marines.


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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
(the turret looks more IG than astartes).

I'd say it looks more like a Predator turret.

well lets have the pic at least



base design is cool

Too busy for me in terms of weapons unless the missiles at least are defence or frag launchers.

be nice if this was available to Ad Mech and those that always had grav vehicles - Custodes and Sisters of Silence.

Why do we need another tank....?

It's a Primaris Tank. I'm all about it. Keep feeding me Primaris models, GW.

I think it looks great! My orkz will love it!

Repulsor?

I like it! Makes me with I could afford more models though. Despite not ever caring for "truescale" Marines before, I am really looking forward to the Primaris Marines.

I'll give a 6/10, based solely on it being way too freakin' busy - something that really needs to be nipped in the bud. "More" doesn't equate to "better" most of the time. Happily I'm sure a lot of modellers will undo mos of that nonsense.

Missiles/grenades on the sides above the door? Check. Missile boxes on the sides of the turret? Check. Additional different missile pod on the turret? Check. Circular possible missile/grenade pod on the back of the vehicle? Check...co-axial gun mount? Cool. Additional massive rotary machine gun on the turret ring? Check...

Seriously, stop. I'll patiently wait to see one of these tones down, but it looks like a garbage dump of marine aesthetics.

 Purifier wrote:

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
(the turret looks more IG than astartes).

I'd say it looks more like a Predator turret.

It resembles the turret off of a Taurox Prime more. The offset barrel and ramp surface

Did Yogurt Chinchillaman unearth Arkhan Land while he was on Crusade or something? This is too much new tech for a setting like Warhammer.

I just had the funny mental image of someone gluing two of these to the feet of a Warlord Titan to allow it to glide across the battlefield figure skater style.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

 Purifier wrote:

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
(the turret looks more IG than astartes).

I'd say it looks more like a Predator turret.

It resembles the turret off of a Taurox Prime more. The offset barrel and ramp surface

It resembles the Predator more, being slanted all around, rather than just at the front, with completely vertical sides.

Glad it's not just me.

Apt name, I find it repulsive lol.
Also ,since when has the imperium re-mastered grav-lev technology to an extent that wasn't even possible during the crusades?
As far as the setting goes that kind of technology should be the realm of sci-fi.

 Roknar wrote:
Apt name, I find it repulsive lol.
Also ,since when has the imperium re-mastered grav-lev technology to an extent that wasn't even possible during the crusades?
As far as the setting goes that kind of technology should be the realm of sci-fi.

Cawl has been developing on 30k technology. Basically, he is in 30k+ times while the rest of the empire is worshipping idols.
I see a lot of hate against that. People crying it goes against the idea of technology being lost and all, and calling it stupid. These people seem to not realise that 40k was always a pretty dumb premise. We love it for what it is, but this raging aversion to new and different lore is really off-putting.

interesting as a way to differ marines though fluffwise did we find a new stc somewhere or has the mechanicum been sitting on this fro 10k years to as an unfilled order that girlyman wanted

Not a fan of the turret, but I do like everything else. Custodian grav raiders ahoy!

I really like it damn you gw
that has settled it I am jumping into the primus stuff after the gorgeous dread and now this I have to say really nice.

It's over the top and silly like most things GW. It makes me envision a concrete boat bristling with guns. Naturally I will buy one.

It's certainly repulsive. This whole Primaris thing as become way out of hand...

Don't get me wrong, I do like the idea of the Imperium finally getting over their aversion to new tech, but so far, all the Primaris stuff is hideous.

But, I don't play SM, so I guess it doesn't affect me.

Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

I kinda hope all those box launchers are actually decoy launchers of some kind...

Categorically lacks Grav tech? Um, Landspeeders? That might not have been a super strong point to open with.

And you follow it with, "hate it because fluff". Huh. Ok.

So, the part of your critique that actually matters is you don't like the way it looks. Cool, no sweat. If you get one for your birthday can I have it?

So...someone stuck a Predator turret to a Land Raider, called it a skimmer, and gave birth to this abomination and meant to be serious about it?

...GW...why?

I reread my comment and feel while i dislike the fluff it must be noted that it will not stop me from buying 3 of them when they come out possibly 4 so my orks can loot one

jade_angel wrote:
I kinda hope all those box launchers are actually decoy launchers of some kind...

Now I want to model it with a spray of wooden ducks shooting out of the turrent. Thanks.

My two cents? I think it's cool and I want one. It's probably going to be like 500 points, but whatevs.

 Fenris-77 wrote:
Categorically lacks Grav tech? Um, Landspeeders? That might not have been a super strong point to open with.

And you follow it with, "hate it because fluff". Huh. Ok.

So, the part of your critique that actually matters is you don't like the way it looks. Cool, no sweat. If you get one for your birthday can I have it?

I knew that bottom reminded me of something.

So now it's a hybrid of no less than 4 existing vehicles.

This thing looks great just dump the turret.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

 Fenris-77 wrote:
Categorically lacks Grav tech? Um, Landspeeders? That might not have been a super strong point to open with.

And you follow it with, "hate it because fluff". Huh. Ok.

So, the part of your critique that actually matters is you don't like the way it looks. Cool, no sweat. If you get one for your birthday can I have it?

I knew that bottom reminded me of something.

So now it's a hybrid of no less than 4 existing vehicles.

And possibly the cost of all four combined. Seriously though, 400-500 points easy unless if's got more like Pred stats for toughness and armour. Even then I'd imagine it'll be 300. I'm not one to let that get in my way though!

 Fenris-77 wrote:
Categorically lacks Grav tech? Um, Landspeeders? That might not have been a super strong point to open with.

And you follow it with, "hate it because fluff". Huh. Ok.

So, the part of your critique that actually matters is you don't like the way it looks. Cool, no sweat. If you get one for your birthday can I have it?

Landspeeders which are extremely difficult to produce and no one really knows how to develop, Landspeeders which used to be a lot more varied in their designs (30K) but have now been reduced down to one base chassis with a few variants created by adding on or ripping out weapon systems and ammunition bays.
Grav tech that has been on the decline in the Imperium of man, and that mankind does not know how to make or develop.

So yes, lacks grav tech.

I'm not a fan of this weird feeling of "hope" that the Imperium is starting to have, I kind of prefered my crumbling empire on the verge of collapse, using 10k year old tractors with battle cannons stuck on them. This whole things smells of techno- heresy to me.

I was really hoping, when I heard about the "Dark-Imperium", that it was going to be about the resistance to Guiliman from established Imperial hierarchy, leading to a civil war of sorts. It seems that he came in and overturned 10k years of dogma and everyone just went along with it...

I can't wait to field it as a totally not heretical inquisitorial space slug transport. Look it even has eyes : )

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...someone stuck a Predator turret to a Land Raider, called it a skimmer, and gave birth to this abomination and meant to be serious about it?

...GW...why?

Because they gave it a jolt and it twitched...

What you see

 oldzoggy wrote:
I can't wait to field it as a totally not heretical inquisitorial space slug transport. Look it even has eyes : )

Spoiler:

What I see

I kinda like this one

Other than The gun and the stupid marine is to much D: They need to learn when to stop.

Im really digging the base model.

i can probably do without all the crazy attachments

the only thing i REALLY hate about it is the pintle mounted assault? cannon.

its the same one off IG taurox. everything else looks awesome as a SM vehicle.

 Trickstick wrote:
I'm not a fan of this weird feeling of "hope" that the Imperium is starting to have, I kind of prefered my crumbling empire on the verge of collapse, using 10k year old tractors with battle cannons stuck on them. This whole things smells of techno- heresy to me.

I was really hoping, when I heard about the "Dark-Imperium", that it was going to be about the resistance to Guiliman from established Imperial hierarchy, leading to a civil war of sorts. It seems that he came in and overturned 10k years of dogma and everyone just went along with it...

I agree. The nice thing about 30k and 40k are the difference in tone. The galaxy of the heresy is, at the beginning at least , a way different and arguably more optimistic one.
One of the things that make 40k special is the fact that the Imperium is a post-technology leviathan.
The tone and what makes faction specific is going to be all over the place, following this trend.

 Roknar wrote:
What you see

 oldzoggy wrote:
I can't wait to field it as a totally not heretical inquisitorial space slug transport. Look it even has eyes : )

Spoiler:

What I see

Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

Well a looted one would probably make a reasonable battlewagon conversion.

 Trickstick wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

Well a looted one would probably make a reasonable battlewagon conversion.

Slap some wheels on it and 'ere we go!

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 Trickstick wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

Well a looted one would probably make a reasonable battlewagon conversion.

Slap some wheels on it and 'ere we go!

wheels are for grots.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...someone stuck a Predator turret to a Land Raider, called it a skimmer, and gave birth to this abomination and meant to be serious about it?

...GW...why?

Because they gave it a jolt and it twitched...

haha, thats about how I see this thing. Repulsor is an appropriate name, it is repulsive indeed

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 Trickstick wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

Well a looted one would probably make a reasonable battlewagon conversion.

Slap some wheels on it and 'ere we go!

I was thinking just slap a load of rockets to the back, and maybe some kind of sled underneath.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Roknar wrote:
What you see

 oldzoggy wrote:
I can't wait to field it as a totally not heretical inquisitorial space slug transport. Look it even has eyes : )

Spoiler:

What I see

Nice one. It looks even better that way. Now I want one for all my Nob squads.

I was thinking mega nobz myself.

cut open the top, use the turrets for other projects, add some battlewagon woors and other bits, throw on a deff rolla and boom pimpmobile floating battlerwagon

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

It works by space magic and it has all those guns because space magic and it flies because space magic and the whole setting function because space magic.

40k isn't a milsim, it's an over-the-top 80s heavy metal album cover. Honestly the only thing I'm disappointed with is that it doesn't have some sick fins or like lightning coming out of the tailpipes.

So far all the possibly Ork conversions of this make me more interested than the base model itself.

Peculiar.

What on earth am I seeing

Stat leak

Since when have Marines ever had stubbers? My vanquishers are going to cry.

Power level 14

S7 T8 W13 Sv3+
Turret - Heavy Lascannon, Heavy Stubber
*Resolve shots with Heavy Stubber first, if the Heavy Lascannon targets a unit hit by the Stubber, it may reroll misses

Hull-mounted Twin Lascannon, swivels up/down and left/right

Rotor cannon is a pintle mounted upgrade

Missiles: Roll a D6 at the start of each fight phase for each enemy unit within 1", on a 4+ it takes D3 mortal wounds (slightly better Frag Assault Launchers)

Transport Capacity 7, can only transport Primaris Marines

Decays its Movement/BS/Attacks as it loses wounds
Movement 10" BS 3+ Attacks 3 base

 Trickstick wrote:
Stat leak

Since when have Marines ever had stubbers? My vanquishers are going to cry.

Power level 14

S7 T8 W13 Sv3+
Turret - Heavy Lascannon, Heavy Stubber
*Resolve shots with Heavy Stubber first, if the Heavy Lascannon targets a unit hit by the Stubber, it may reroll misses

Hull-mounted Twin Lascannon, swivels up/down and left/right

Rotor cannon is a pintle mounted upgrade

Missiles: Roll a D6 at the start of each fight phase for each enemy unit within 1", on a 4+ it takes D3 mortal wounds (slightly better Frag Assault Launchers)

Transport Capacity 7, can only transport Primaris Marines

Decays its Movement/BS/Attacks as it loses wounds
Movement 10" BS 3+ Attacks 3 base

Since when did marines get rotor cannons?

man things are going to get converted soooo fast. no rotor, missiles are going to get toned down into reactive plating, and whats with the stubber?

So they knicked the Leman Russ Vanquishers special ability (after GW removed the coaxial weapon from the base Vanquisher...) and gave it to an SM hovertank in an army that has no history of stubber use?

 Vaktathi wrote:
So they knicked the Leman Russ Vanquishers special ability (after GW removed the coaxial weapon from the base Vanquisher...) and gave it to an SM hovertank in an army that has no history of stubber use?

The Techno-heresy is strong with the Primaris. I think we need a new Macharius to rise up and deal with this filth. (Seriously GW, just write a loyalist civil war of some kind and I would be all over it.)

 Trickstick wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So they knicked the Leman Russ Vanquishers special ability (after GW removed the coaxial weapon from the base Vanquisher...) and gave it to an SM hovertank in an army that has no history of stubber use?

The Techno-heresy is strong with the Primaris. I think we need a new Macharius to rise up and deal with this filth. (Seriously GW, just write a loyalist civil war of some kind and I would be all over it.)

Id be down for a loyalist civil war.

it would be way more interesting than girlymans fun crusade where everyone is invited.

 Desubot wrote:
Since when did marines get rotor cannons?

man things are going to get converted soooo fast. no rotor, missiles are going to get toned down into reactive plating, and whats with the stubber?

Since the Horus Heresy. The exist in the Special Weapons Squads they can bring.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-Rotor-Cannon-Set-2015

 Trickstick wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So they knicked the Leman Russ Vanquishers special ability (after GW removed the coaxial weapon from the base Vanquisher...) and gave it to an SM hovertank in an army that has no history of stubber use?

The Techno-heresy is strong with the Primaris. I think we need a new Macharius to rise up and deal with this filth. (Seriously GW, just write a loyalist civil war of some kind and I would be all over it.)

I would so be right there as well. The potential for the Primaris to be much darker than originally intended is very enticing from a lore perspective.

 BunkhouseBuster wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Since when did marines get rotor cannons?

man things are going to get converted soooo fast. no rotor, missiles are going to get toned down into reactive plating, and whats with the stubber?

Since the Horus Heresy. The exist in the Special Weapons Squads they can bring.

oh balls how did i forget about that.

still dont like it. its honsetly too....... realworldee.

Is it me or GW is working overtime in an attempt to make Primaris Marine the best thing in the world since hot water. And I used to think the Space Marines mythos was heavy on power fantasy...

On a side note, the tank is still pretty nice, but the pintle mounted assault canon is a bit much (making it a gorud vehicle might have been nicer in my opinion). I still prefer the more classic design of the Predator, but this one is nicer than the Land Raider.

Does anybody know what a heavy lascanon is supposed to be capable of doing?

 BunkhouseBuster wrote:
I would so be right there as well. The potential for the Primaris to be much darker than originally intended is very enticing from a lore perspective.

Actually, I may just roll with that. Call all my opponents out on their Techno-Heresy and defiling the holy gene-seed of The Emperor. Call it a theological difference...

I ask myself how many of the people that now hates the desing of this vehicle (That to be honest, to me looks very busy. The first time I have used that word with a model, but all of those misile launcher boxs are unnecesary) would hate the desings of classic 40k that they love if 30 years ago they have had the age they have now.

We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

 Galas wrote:
I ask myself how many of the people that now hates the desing of this vehicle (That to be honest, to me looks very busy. The first time I have used that word with a model, but all of those misile launcher boxs are unnecesary) would hate the desings of classic 40k that they love if 30 years ago they have had the age they have now.

We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant. I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has love it.

Im certainly not the youngest or the oldest player but dammit those missiles are very busy. but i REALLY like that missile turret in the back.

i dunno though. the regular primaris marines are very plain though so i dont know what they are doing design wise.

i was really looking forward to a more clean and pragmatic age of girlyman.

I think that if they were going to introduce new Space Marine vehicles, they should have changed the design more. This just looks like a janky Land Raider.

 Galas wrote:
We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

It isn't so much the actual design that I dislike, it is the development of new technologies. GW made a great setting, based on the stagnation and decay of a once great empire. They have to release new model designs to survive as a business, that is understandable. However, they are really starting to push against the fluff that made so many people love the setting. It is nowhere near what they did to fantasy, but all of this "hope" is a bit weird. My Guardsmen don't know how to cope!

 Trickstick wrote:

 Galas wrote:
We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

It isn't so much the actual design that I dislike, it is the development of new technologies. GW made a great setting, based on the stagnation and decay of a once great empire. They have to release new model designs to survive as a business, that is understandable. However, they are really starting to push against the fluff that made so many people love the setting. It is nowhere near what they did to fantasy, but all of this "hope" is a bit weird. My Guardsmen don't know how to cope!

stagnation went out the window the second a loyalist primarch came back.

there isnt much we can do about it. besides im all for change

 Trickstick wrote:

 Galas wrote:
We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

It isn't so much the actual design that I dislike, it is the development of new technologies. GW made a great setting, based on the stagnation and decay of a once great empire. They have to release new model designs to survive as a business, that is understandable. However, they are really starting to push against the fluff that made so many people love the setting. It is nowhere near what they did to fantasy, but all of this "hope" is a bit weird. My Guardsmen don't know how to cope!

I agree with all of that. Thats why I have convinced myself that just as i like both the Old World and Age of Sigmar, to me theres two 40k. Pre-Guilliman and Post-Guilliman. Basically Warhammer 40k and Warhammer 41k.

Each to there own but i think it is hideous.

 Galas wrote:
I ask myself how many of the people that now hates the desing of this vehicle (That to be honest, to me looks very busy. The first time I have used that word with a model, but all of those misile launcher boxs are unnecesary) would hate the desings of classic 40k that they love if 30 years ago they have had the age they have now.

We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

Part of it is context. If this were a new game with no history, the tank would look goofy, but may be fine. Within the context and history of 40k however, it really does look like a bad mishmash of multiple existing designs.

The minimissile launchers are the dumbest part that would look goofy regardless

I totally get the design direction of it, and given a better, more fitting paint job i think theyll look really cool. Its a "modernized" look for Space Marines.

Ive already got that covered with my collection though, and its Primaris only, so I'll pass.

It gets more ridiculous the more I look at it but that only makes me want it more. If I can laugh at a model while I play it then I enjoy it that much more.

I like it. The pintle-mounted Rotor Cannon looks a little big, and it does look a little busy with all the missiles, but overall I think it looks cool.

I do like that missiles are defensive. I'm hoping that more vehicles get some sort of defensive wargear, although I play Orks and that would kind of be bad for us.

I hope that GW doesn't totally abandon the run-down universe aesthetic, with the Imperium of Man worshipping technology rather than truly understanding it and being resistant to change. I don't think it ruins things for the IoM to occasionally get new technology, either by rediscovering lost technology or sometimes developing something new and getting approval for widespread use. I think that Rowboat coming back and putting all of Cawl's super-secret projects on the fast track is a good fluff excuse for GW to introduce a lot of new Imperial stuff all at once, but I hope there is some limit to it and the IoM doesn't fully go to Great Crusade ++ level of technology.

(I think that the idea of something cruder being invented as a replacement for more advanced tech that can no longer be produced or maintained is fun. Something like "We can no longer produce this fancy laser, but we can strap a bunch of more basic lasers together and/or build a really big cannon that accomplishes the same goal.")

Edit: It could use more skulls, bits of parchment and other nonsense though.

I think it would look less crappy if the bottom of it looked in any way sensible. It looks like the design process was:

Design team: look at this guys, people have been asking about the tank between the land raider and the predator for ages - I think I've finally nailed it!

Marketing: yeah it's pretty cool

Design: 'pretty' cool? Pretty cool? It's freaking awesome, it's almost exactly halfway between the 2 tanks, it's got sweet weapons, and it fits the Space Marines aesthetic perfectly.

Marketing: ah, yes, aesthetic. Did you get the memo?

Design: what memo?

Marketing: you know, the memo. Space marines are, like, sooo last millenium. So we've ditched them for the new super duper marines.

Design: you did what?

Marketing: yeah, they're like space marines, but super duperer. So while your tank is nice, it isn't super duper enough.

Design: right...

Marketing: yeah, super duper marines are just better than marines, so this won't do. *sips latte, adjusts impeccable eyeglasses, gazes onto the distance* can you make it fly? That'll be super duper

Design: yeah... I suppose... But that take a few weeks to fully redesign

Accounts: oh hi guys, was just passing and heard you were going to redesign something you'd already done

Design: yeah, we didn't read the memo. We need to make this awesome tank more super duper by making it fly, but it'll take a while...

Accounts: hmm. That sounds expensive. Can't you just take the treads off and glue them to the bottom of the tank - just say it's how it's supposed to look

Marketing: yeah, cool xeno tech on a super duper marine vehicle do it! We're off to brainstorm a name for it - want a latte?

Accounts: is that company latte?

Design: fine, whatever, super duper marines yay!

Thbbt. Give me the Custodes skimmers over that any day, the "staple a bit of a Land Speeder onto a Rhino" thing isn't working for me.

(Though after my experience with the vehicle-stunlock mechanic that is "retreat from combat" I expect this to be the edition of Skimmers/Fly-capable vehicles, so it isn't that surprising that the super-duper-Marines are getting one.)

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...someone stuck a Predator turret to a Land Raider, called it a skimmer, and gave birth to this abomination and meant to be serious about it?

...GW...why?

Because GW. I mean, looking at their recent vehicle designs, are you honestly surprised by this?

 Peregrine wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...someone stuck a Predator turret to a Land Raider, called it a skimmer, and gave birth to this abomination and meant to be serious about it?

...GW...why?

Because GW. I mean, looking at their recent vehicle designs, are you honestly surprised by this?

I mean...I shouldnt be, but I really wasnt expecting a ChibiRaider/Predator/Land Speeder lovechild abomination.


I really dont know why they allow anyone but FW to design new vehicles at this point, it's clear the main design studio is hopeless.

I think it would look less crappy if the bottom of it looked in any way sensible.

Bingo, there was something I couldnt put my finger on but thats actually it.

Oh by the Emperor and all His saints, that thing is ugly.

The hull is okay, I think, but that turret needs to go. Or maybe just the Active Protection System. Move them to the hull or something.

As an IG, ill take it over the Taurox

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Oh by the Emperor and all His saints, that thing is ugly.

The hull is okay, I think, but that turret needs to go. Or maybe just the Active Protection System. Move them to the hull or something.

The turret missile pods just need to be made to look like stowage and I think it would look fine. The Turret and the hull are both great otherwise.

It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

Aside from the excessive missiles/mortars, I actually kind of like it. It reminds me (vaguely) of the skimmer tank made from spoons and deodorant from the original rogue trader book. Plus it's the first space marine vehicle that, while excessively armed, actually looks like it could hold all the ammo for its weapons. 3 energy weapons powered by the same power plant that fuels the grav system, what look like one-shot mortars and defence missiles, and an auticannon or heavy stubber whose bullets are comparatively tiny. The pintle mounted gatling gun's spare ammo is bolted to the exterior of the tank. I would venture a guess to say its transport capacity is a combat squad.

Can I put Custodians in my Repulsor? I'd even model up some coveralls and mop buckets. Now I just need to find a stencil that reads "Golden Throne Cleaning Service" and I'll be a happy man.

Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Hmmm...can't say I hate it. Or like it.

It reminds me of the stormraven - a kit to buy and model as a challenge to make it look better!

the IoM may not use anti-grav tech much in 40k, but it's certainkly there, every ship in the IoM employs the tech, land speeders employ it. and the Tau use it, and it sure looks like we might be seeing some reverse engineered Tau tech in play here. or even Necron Tech (given Cawl was digging around in what sounds like some of their ruins towards the start of GS3)

 Galas wrote:
I ask myself how many of the people that now hates the desing of this vehicle (That to be honest, to me looks very busy. The first time I have used that word with a model, but all of those misile launcher boxs are unnecesary) would hate the desings of classic 40k that they love if 30 years ago they have had the age they have now.

We have to consider that as we grew older, what we like grews stangnant (And we become more critical because all the experience, obviously). I'm pretty sure that all of this will be loved by every 10-16 years old out there. I have show it to my 11 year-old niece and he has loved it.

Yea it just seems like these people should be playing flames of war or something. All I see these days is how everything is so 'over the top' 'cartoony' 'not grimdark' '5th edition is better' and quite frankly its boring me. I'd counterpoint saying this is the same universe with the goofy mad max orks, but quite a lot of people these days don't even think they should be in the game because 'too silly'. You can't win.

Its just a land raider with a predator turret. No, it doesn't look more tau or alien. You want sillier grav vehicles that look even weirder? Look at the custodes and sisters of silences ones.

Yea, chop of all those antennae, they look dumb. But overall its a cool hull.

edit: over gunned? over the top? in 40k!??!?!?!? you don't say........gee whiz, stop the presses or something /sarcasm

Overall, it's decent. I just wish it was like a 1/2'' off the base and didn't have the twin-las sticking out of the front.

The Custodes vehicles to me look hideous. Like spray cans put together.

The Sisters of Silence ones in the other hand, they look horrendous, but in a good way, because what they are supposed to represent.
And in general FW vehicles look like real world vehicles, not 40k in any shape or form. But thats what some people like, and thats totally OK for them. For some people Tau don't belong to 40k. To me they add a contrast that by comparison makes everything else looks even more grimdark. But "anime crap" or "Herobright"


For the matter, on twitter Tom Walton.
https://twitter.com/edgeblend

Has said that Jess Goodwin has been working in the concept art of the Primaris Marines for the past 4 years to give the line a cohesive look.

Flying Rhino? ... I ... I ... I kinda like it
I agree the missile boxes on the turret are out of place but I prefer the remote style turrets for marines more anyway (so first conversion make it more razorback less predator)

If I was really feeling converty I'd want to do a shout out to the Custodes grav tanks and their grav "pontoons" so maybe rebuild the front end to look like the sicarius' track "horns"
and make the lascannons another remote turret ala landraider Heavy Bolters.

one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

Theres no more proof of love for the Emperor that killing his enemies without wasting the Imperium very limited resources!

Men, afix your fists!

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

actually they're noit, the rules say guardsmen have lasguns, you don't have a choice to take them without a gun.


what I mean by optional is like a predator's sponsons, they'll be extras you can add, and stuff that you can go without. if thats the case we might be able to build "cleaner" versions.

we'll have to wait and see.

This is probably the only new model I see as kind of over the top even for 40k. I like the turret and that would have been cool as just an add on screw but the hull comes off a bit silly. The missiles everywhere and just the way it sits on a base. I could forgive it if it had tracks but it's really busy. I wouldn't talk bad about it to anyone if I saw it on the table top but it lacks in making me want to buy it for sure.

Reminds me of that silly hover tank from bf4 snow map dlc. Land speeders are way cooler and it seems unnecessary. Like what advantage does it have over a tank with tracks that an amphibious chimera or hovering speeder don't offer?

I mean it's cool but just too busy for me. I've never said it but............... too much dakka :(

I fudging love this tank! Reminds me of the M2/M3 Bradley IFV

I wonder why the rocket box on the side of the turret is the only one with a lid.

Pink Horror wrote:
I wonder why the rocket box on the side of the turret is the only one with a lid.

Im wondering why that bitchin rocket turret with the sensor is on the back end of the vehicle.

also going to not glue any of those on. but cant think of where i want to put all those extra rocket pods.... maybe some IG thing.

nateprati wrote:
Reminds me of that silly hover tank from bf4 snow map dlc.

Oh my god, they added the hover tank from bf2142 into bf4? 2142 was one of my favourite games, and the last bf I ever played (or maybe that was bad company). That tank was awesome, as it could keep the front towards enemy whilst jinking all over the place. Thanks for the nostalgia trip.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

actually they're noit, the rules say guardsmen have lasguns, you don't have a choice to take them without a gun.


what I mean by optional is like a predator's sponsons, they'll be extras you can add, and stuff that you can go without. if thats the case we might be able to build "cleaner" versions.

we'll have to wait and see.

Ah, you're right, it does actually state what they have as a base still.

Something about it is wrong to me. Can't quite put my finger on it as to what, though. Will need to see the points and stats for it, but my first impression is visually i don't like it.

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

The Land Speeder was technically a new design, produced in the 31st Millennium, based on the data recovered by Land (mostly data regarding the grav plates). The Custodes and Sisters of Silence had access to advanced grav vehicle designs, produced exclusively for them by the Mechanicus. And that is not counting the Javelin and Jetbike used by the Space Marine Legions.

Anti-gravity technologies were not completely lost to the Imperium by the 41st Millennium. Just harder (and expensive) to produce and maintain.

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

The Land Speeder was technically a new design, produced in the 31st Millennium, based on the data recovered by Land (mostly data regarding the grav plates). The Custodes and Sisters of Silence had access to advanced grav vehicle designs, produced exclusively for them by the Mechanicus. And that is not counting the Javelin and Jetbike used by the Space Marine Legions.

Anti-gravity technologies were not completely lost to the Imperium by the 41st Millennium. Just harder (and expensive) to produce and maintain.

that combined with the fact that star ships in the IoM still have artifical gravity.

as for the tank being a "Tank destroyer, a MBT, a APC, a missile destroyer and a MLRS all at once" that's a lot of salt for something we don't know much about.

according to the links those missiles are just a glorified frag assault launcher (something land raider crusaders have) once you remove that, it has 3 las cannons a stubber, and an anti-infantry pintal gun.

it's not much more heavily armed then a razorback. and it's basicly about halfway between a predator and a land raider.

seems fine to me

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

This. I was not in love with primaris space marine but I was in doubt. Then came that HUGE dreadnaught that feels totally out of the game sizewise. Then came that repulsor that is too big, too gun, too grav. Did not make any sense. I liked the madness of the imperium this mixture of forbiden technology and medieval occultism. This repulsor killed that beautiful concept that I liked so much.

When the first pictures of giant marines leaked I was worried but this is much much worse to me, it is not just a problem of size or aestetic, it is a problem of concept.

 reluxor wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

This. I was not in love with primaris space marine but I was in doubt. Then came that HUGE dreadnaught that feels totally out of the game sizewise. Then came that repulsor that is too big, too gun, too grav. Did not make any sense. I liked the madness of the imperium this mixture of forbiden technology and medieval occultism. This repulsor killed that beautiful concept that I liked so much.

When the first pictures of giant marines leaked I was worried but this is much much worse to me, it is not just a problem of size or aestetic, it is a problem of concept.

why so?
otherb then hovering how is it differant from a predator, or land raider?

I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

Rumored repulsive Repulsor stats on Faeit212 (apparently from "good sources" ) :

Power level 14

S7 T8 W13 Sv3+
Turret - Heavy Lascannon, Heavy Stubber
*Resolve shots with Heavy Stubber first, if the Heavy Lascannon targets a unit hit by the Stubber, it may reroll misses

Hull-mounted Twin Lascannon, swivels up/down and left/right

Rotor cannon is a pintle mounted upgrade

Missiles: Roll a D6 at the start of each fight phase for each enemy unit within 1", on a 4+ it takes D3 mortal wounds (slightly better Frag Assault Launchers)

Transport Capacity 7, can only transport Primaris Marines

Decays its Movement/BS/Attacks as it loses wounds
Movement 10" BS 3+ Attacks 3 base

 reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

I'd want a repulsor for chaos, but I'm not a fan of Nurgle.

I noticed that White Scars are featured in previews of the new book. Was in the process of putting together an army, but now want to switch over to using the new larger marines.

Will probably hold off until they release bikes and flyer models for the big guys. Makes no sense to field White Scars without 'em.

How far off d'ya think that will be?

PTS wrote:
I noticed that White Scars are featured in the new book. Was in the process of putting together an army, but now want to switch over to using the new larger marines.

Will probably hold off until they release bikes and flyer models for the big guys (doesn't make sense to field White Scars without 'em) - how far off d'ya think that will be?

could never even happen. my suggestion would be a mixed army. normal marines on bikes, backed up by primaris inceptor squads

So the possibility of GW replacing the entire Space Marine line with Primaris sized models is still just a rumor?

PTS wrote:
So the possibility of GW replacing the entire Space Marine line with Primaris sized models is still just a rumor?

yeah, it could happen, but for now at least they seem to be deliberatly trying to give Primairis Marines and standard Marines their own distinct niches

someone likened it to temptus scions vs standard guardsmen, not a bad way to think of it

BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

SIEG GRAMMATICUS!

BrianDavion wrote:

 reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Only until Russ gets bored of slaanesh's garden decides things have got bad enough to meet the wolftime requirements he made up because he wanted a holiday, then he and every wolf who died will get gak sorted while hot Valkyries (demonetes converted by some sweet fenrisian loving) fuel them with ale.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

Backfire wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

the turret has a single las cannon, a stubber, and a one shot missle pod. ohh and a pintle mounted gun

a predator could have TWO las cannons, a pintal mounted gun, and I've seen people put the hunter killer missile there,

hobojebus wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Only until Russ gets bored of slaanesh's garden decides things have got bad enough to meet the wolftime requirements he made up because he wanted a holiday, then he and every wolf who died will get gak sorted while hot Valkyries (demonetes converted by some sweet fenrisian loving) fuel them with ale.

Lol... I wanna see that happen.
One primarch returns with a inquisitor, a techpreist and others.

One returns with a alot of space Vikings, valkiryes and tons of ale to do some head bashing lol.

BrianDavion wrote:

Backfire wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

the turret has a single las cannon, a stubber, and a one shot missle pod. ohh and a pintle mounted gun

a predator could have TWO las cannons, a pintal mounted gun, and I've seen people put the hunter killer missile there,

A Heavy Lascannon, A Heavy Stubber, a pintle mounted Gatling Cannon and at least four one shot missile pods. Plus any Hunter Killers you choose to add.

Have we got any confirmation that primaris will take up more space than regular marines, due to being larger and bulkier? And therefore require special transports in the same way Terminators used to require land raiders?

I'm certain space marines, as we know them, are in their twilight.

 Kojiro wrote:
Have we got any confirmation that primaris will take up more space than regular marines, due to being larger and bulkier? And therefore require special transports in the same way Terminators used to require land raiders?

I'm certain space marines, as we know them, are in their twilight.

we have, Primaris Marines CANNOT use space marine transports, they must use their own .

I just hope we get a Primaris Rhino equivilant. I don't wanna feel forced to use the full on TANK al the time. (that'd get pricy, points wise)

BrianDavion wrote:
we have, Primaris Marines CANNOT use space marine transports, they must use their own .

Thanks for that.

So, been reading Dark Imperium, and it descripes Repulsor tanks being dropped in which leads me to conclude they'll be able to deep strike. so whereas regular Marines have to choose between "deep strike or transport" Primaris Marines will likely be able to go "BOTH OF COURSE!"

BrianDavion wrote:
So, been reading Dark Imperium, and it descripes Repulsor tanks being dropped in which leads me to conclude they'll be able to deep strike. so whereas regular Marines have to choose between "deep strike or transport" Primaris Marines will likely be able to go "BOTH OF COURSE!"

As long as they are suitably expensive then it should be fine. If primaris become to most elite army then it could lead to some really cool battles, with a few brave soldiers holding back a horde of enemies, every death counting for something. Sort of like the old movie marines, but not to such an extreme extent.

BrianDavion wrote:

 reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

I am one that was here for 20 years, serving the Emperor, while Gulliman was asleep.


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BrianDavion wrote:

 reluxor wrote:

This. I was not in love with primaris space marine but I was in doubt. Then came that HUGE dreadnaught that feels totally out of the game sizewise. Then came that repulsor that is too big, too gun, too grav. Did not make any sense. I liked the madness of the imperium this mixture of forbiden technology and medieval occultism. This repulsor killed that beautiful concept that I liked so much.

When the first pictures of giant marines leaked I was worried but this is much much worse to me, it is not just a problem of size or aestetic, it is a problem of concept.

why so?
otherb then hovering how is it differant from a predator, or land raider?

because if the Imperium can make fly a slender Land Raider hull, then the Eldars are just a dying race, not an incredibly technologically advanced dying race. Then the Necron monolith is just a big chunk of plascreet and the Dark Eldar Raider is just some kind of a gang bus.
I m just not in this concept.

I will say it again - Repulsor?
Why yes.
Yes I am.

My main takeaway from the Repulsor is that GW doesn't just plan on scaling up the existing SM vehicle to match the Primaris Marines. They're ramping up for a whole new range of models.

I suppose the old marines won't be able to use the new vehicles either?

What's the matter, can't reach the foot pedals?

 Grand.Master.Raziel wrote:
My main takeaway from the Repulsor is that GW doesn't just plan on scaling up the existing SM vehicle to match the Primaris Marines. They're ramping up for a whole new range of models.

This.

They're basically resetting everything. A new warp anomaly, a new crusade led by one above all, leading a new army of the best humanity can produce. It's not an exact copy- this time they're basing it off their own IP rather than transporting fantasy to space but the underlying themes are there. It'd be an absolute solid story, as a first edition. But to- and I believe they are- eliminate the marines their entire empire is built on? That risks an awful lot of alienation.

 Kojiro wrote:

 Grand.Master.Raziel wrote:
My main takeaway from the Repulsor is that GW doesn't just plan on scaling up the existing SM vehicle to match the Primaris Marines. They're ramping up for a whole new range of models.

This.

They're basically resetting everything. A new warp anomaly, a new crusade led by one above all, leading a new army of the best humanity can produce. It's not an exact copy- this time they're basing it off their own IP rather than transporting fantasy to space but the underlying themes are there. It'd be an absolute solid story, as a first edition. But to- and I believe they are- eliminate the marines their entire empire is built on? That risks an awful lot of alienation.

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But that is exactly what GW is doing - this whole indomitus crusade shenanigans is basically "AOS Sigmar's big day out" but in 40k.