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Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 21:56:55


Post by: Giantwalkingchair


Everyone has that army they hate with a passion burns with the fire of a thousand suns. Lets say for some reason tou were forced to collect and play that army because death isnt an option. What is that army tou so despise and how would you wield it.?

For me, as much as i loathe spahs muhreenz, i would start a black templar force before i ever started tau, so the tau would be mine.
I would field it as a dark federation. Have the species diversity there- kroots, hound, vespids, firewarriors, ethereal. No battlesuits. Gotta draw the line somewhere.



Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:00:12


Post by: Horst


Freaking space elves.... I'd rather die, but if not an option, I guess I'm playing Eldar!


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:05:39


Post by: TwinPoleTheory


Any horde army. Probably why I'm salty about Chaos these days.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:07:47


Post by: ChargerIIC


It'd probably be Slaneesh. I'd have to own it though, so complete 2000 point hair band theme.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:08:21


Post by: Not Online!!!


 TwinPoleTheory wrote:
Any horde army. Probably why I'm salty about Chaos these days.


Well considering that it csm that fields the horde better then the actual horde Chaos army i'd like agree with you.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:11:29


Post by: HoundsofDemos


Tau. I've played them a few times when my group did army swaps and I've never enjoyed a game as them. No CC, No psykers and most things don't want to move. Found it to be a boring army.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:12:41


Post by: Brutus_Apex


Tau, literally the most boring thing I can think of.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:16:26


Post by: vipoid


Imperial Knights. Most boring, unfun army in the game, backed up by horrible aesthetics.

I imagine any games with them would start and end with an apology to my opponent for subjecting him to them.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:20:41


Post by: Mr Morden


Hafflings in warhammer (or any other system)


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:21:24


Post by: admironheart


Tau. I would have to gouge my eyes out on a regular to keep from having my brains hurt from looking at the ugly critters.

On so many levels they are bad for 40K.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:33:51


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


Daemons.

I feel like they would be so much cooler if they had like hellforged guns and stuff to be Gothic Sci-Fi Daemons instead of ordinary fantasy daemons in a sci-fi setting.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:35:49


Post by: Ashiraya


Imperial Guard. Oof. Hmm...

Very hard question. I guess I'd go for MT. They don't actually look awful.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:36:05


Post by: Asmodios


ive always hated elves in fantasy and 40k.... it would be a cold cold cold day in hell before i picked up that army (or if someone accidentally put a 2k army on ebay for like $5)


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:40:26


Post by: Sazzlefrats


That's a lot of hate for Tau. If you miss CC, feild Farsight Enclaves. At least now.. there's no real drawbacks.

Tau doesn't have to be a gunline (boring), load it up with crisis suits or vehicles and the whole army shifts around on the board.

My favorite army is Tau, my least favorite is a static gunline. That being said, in tournaments I had many more issues playing against Orks, than IG (which was never a problem, just many tended to be boring sit n shoot armies). And Tau can now field boring gunline armies too. I also love CSM and Eldar... but I hate... static gunline armies.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:40:31


Post by: Apple Peel


This is a really tough tie between Chaos Daemons and Dark Eldar. I’m not quite sure. Probably the Dark Eldar.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:47:38


Post by: Galas


 Brutus_Apex wrote:
Tau, literally the most boring thing I can think of.


Thats because you don't play assault Tau. Theres nothing more beautifull than see a Khorne Chaos Army surprised when you take first turn and they have 2/3 of your army at less than 10" from their army after first turn ,destroying everything with melta shoots.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 22:47:57


Post by: Brutus_Apex


I feel like they would be so much cooler if they had like hellforged guns and stuff to be Gothic Sci-Fi Daemons instead of ordinary fantasy daemons in a sci-fi setting


Well, thats because 40K is fantasy in space. It isn't sci-fi.

Actually, the only army that qualifies as sci-fi is Tau, which is why they don't belong in 40K.

Thats because you don't play assault Tau. Theres nothing more beautifull than see a Khorne Chaos Army surprised when you take first turn and they have 2/3 of your army at less than 10" from their army after first turn ,destroying everything with melta shoots.


Kudos to you for playing in an interesting fashion at least. I have to say it isn't just their play style that I dislike, its the aesthetic too. If they don't look medieval or possessed by daemons I don't really have an interest in it.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:00:13


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


 Brutus_Apex wrote:
I feel like they would be so much cooler if they had like hellforged guns and stuff to be Gothic Sci-Fi Daemons instead of ordinary fantasy daemons in a sci-fi setting


Well, thats because 40K is fantasy in space. It isn't sci-fi.

Actually, the only army that qualifies as sci-fi is Tau, which is why they don't belong in 40K.

Thats because you don't play assault Tau. Theres nothing more beautifull than see a Khorne Chaos Army surprised when you take first turn and they have 2/3 of your army at less than 10" from their army after first turn ,destroying everything with melta shoots.


Kudos to you for playing in an interesting fashion at least. I have to say it isn't just their play style that I dislike, its the aesthetic too. If they don't look medieval or possessed by daemons I don't really have an interest in it.


40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.

To top it off, they're a mass-melee footslogging army, which is basically the straight opposite of everything I would ever want to play.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:04:55


Post by: NoiseMarine with Tinnitus


Aeldari, fecking can't stand them.

If forced at gun point I would take Ulthwe, have Eldrad and as many psykers as possible. That way they hopefully all peril turn one and blow my own army to the warp with MW nukes so I don't have to play a full game with them.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:08:55


Post by: C4790M


Craftworld Eldar. Harlequins I could stand, Drukhari seem pretty cool. Regular boring space elves? Hard pass


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:10:45


Post by: Stormonu


Daemons, and it would have to be that grotesque faction Nurgle, since I hat it most.

If I got to choose the models, nothing but tanks so I don’t have to use the disgusting infantry models.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:11:06


Post by: The Forgemaster


Any horde army, although not for playing reasons, but for painting reasons...


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:11:47


Post by: Jimsolo


I cannot see a world in where I play actual Tyranids.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:25:52


Post by: Da-Rock


Love Tau as you can play them so many ways, much like Guard. I chuckle when I see others who are stuck on the 100% Grim Dark armies.

40k has waaay too many Grim Dark armies to the point where they all look the same. Having Tau, Eldar and such change the look up just enough.

To answer the question - If I was forced to play it would have to be Nids. Playing insect horde was tough the time I owned them......couldn't stand the play style nor the look


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:29:19


Post by: vipoid


 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.


Do you think that 40k Daemons should be more bio-mechanical? Like the Soul Grinder but on a smaller scale.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/11 23:47:51


Post by: Galas


DOOM demons would be better for 40k than the demons we have now, in my opinion. So yeah, more Soul Grinder and Khorne Cybernetic Juggernauts and less Slaanesh chariots.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:09:31


Post by: Ashiraya


DOOM demons would be sick in 40k.

Cyberdemon > DP.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:12:04


Post by: Bobthehero


Orks especially a melee focus army, there's nothing about them that really interest me and I don't like melee in my future combat


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:21:25


Post by: Yarium


T'au. I really don't like the Anime aesthetic. There are a few anime shows and movies that I enjoy (Avatar, Dragon Ball Z), but I like them in spite of the animation style. T'au scream that style and concept to me, and I just can't get on board with it. The only reason I've ever fielded T'au was because I was playing a tourney in 6th edition and if you didn't ally in a Riptide you were probably losing. (EDIT: It was my brother-in-law's Riptide, he likes them)


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:32:32


Post by: fraser1191


Honestly I can't say there's a single army I hate but if I had to choose one I'd never do it'd probably be Orks or eldar. Meganob army and then a spirit host.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:35:12


Post by: Danielle Rae


Imperial Knights. Frikkin Castellans.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 00:39:49


Post by: Tibs Ironblood


I hate Tau, Eldar and space wolves equally. If I had to play one though at least I could grit my teeth and play the wolves because at least they are similar to things I like, but eldar and tau?...

Well I do have and enjoy dark eldar so I guess I could just pretend my eldar are really evil bastards who don't shop at hot topic so I guess the #1 pick of things I'd hate to play would be Tau.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 01:15:46


Post by: Imateria


Guard or Knights, by far the least interesting armies in 40K.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 01:28:36


Post by: WindstormSCR


Modern Death Guard, and I'd be converting a lot of stuff to look pre-heresy just because I loathe the nurgle theme and can't stand to paint it. Too much time spent in hospitals as a kid.

I don't mind fighting against it, but I wouldn't want to sit there and paint it myself.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 01:34:49


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


 Horst wrote:
Freaking space elves.... I'd rather die, but if not an option, I guess I'm playing Eldar!


Yes, hell is being forced to play Eldar for eternity.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 01:44:49


Post by: darkcloak


Ugh. Slaanesh Demons.

I would say Tau because I hate those gimpy fish heads, but I'm actually thinking they might be a nice change. Tau auxiliary sounds pretty neat from a modelling perspective, plus I do kinda like Broadsides and some of the other suits. So I can't really say Tau. The only faction I would really dislike building a Slaanesh army of any type because it would offend my true liege, Khorne. Or I guess I could just choose death. Khorne would approve.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 02:28:47


Post by: combatcotton


Smurfs.

Hordes of Hellblasters with characters without rerolls and plasma pistols. Then overcharge the living #%!) out of it and have them die in a self induced fire.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:01:15


Post by: greatbigtree


Love playing but would never consent to paint an army of Orks. Just way too many fiddly bits to paint.

Look interesting but could never imagine playing as Knights. I don’t find them fun to play against, as an entire army. Centrepiece is ok, but not a whole army of them.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:13:34


Post by: Brutus_Apex


40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.

To top it off, they're a mass-melee footslogging army, which is basically the straight opposite of everything I would ever want to play.


Here's the thing I don't think you're seeing. Daemons and the Warp are effectively the reason 40K isn't sci-fi. The reason you don't like them is the very reason 40K is unique and interesting as a setting. They are what makes it 40K. You don't see the as fitting in because you think 40K is sci-fi, when it's totally the opposite.

I'm not going to argue the aesthetics of the models because I think that they're lacking for the most part, but they are the essence of 40K.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:28:26


Post by: Bloviator


In this scenario, the oafish, unthinking, belligerent and savage sons of Russ will carry on their tradition of dragging their knuckles in the mud as they squat in the ruins of what could have been great, under my command.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:32:38


Post by: CynosureEldar


Screw anything in the whole imperial lineup. I came here to get away from bs human crap. And the Freaking Toilet Seats can freeze to death with me, because the loyal 32 and the d***less frenchman can shove off and die.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:39:07


Post by: the_scotsman


It'd be either straight nids (dull, personality free horde designed half by what a ten year old thought was "awethome" and half by someone throwing random darts at a dartboard) or Custodes (the ten year old but designing his hero character in an MMO and writing awful fanfic about how badass he is)

At least with Custodes they'd only take 10m to paint. Once you spray paint them gold there's no point continuing. I wouldn't want to add a wash to pick out any of the hideous detailing on the models. Spray gold...then probably spray again and again until they look like pvt Dickard.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:42:03


Post by: Ginjitzu


I can't decide between Imperial Knights and Harlequins. I have nothing against the odd Imperial Knight in a big points game that's limited to one Lord of War each, but Knights as a faction? Rubbish.

I can't quite put my finger on why, but there's just something really unappealing to me about Harlequins.

If I had to decide, I'd have to go with Knights, because though I don't like Harlequins, I do respect them at least. I cannot say the same for Imperial Knights nor those who play them.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 03:48:16


Post by: Quasistellar


It's easily eldar. As much as I despise them, I love the look of their flyers


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 04:09:37


Post by: bullyboy


necrons.....probably the most dull army in existence. At least the painting would be easy.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 04:49:17


Post by: ccs


For 40k I guess that'd be Dark Eldar - but only if I were forced to use the original models from 3e.
Excluding the skiffs & the two slave girls, I just can't stand the original DE model sculpts.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 05:03:09


Post by: ZergSmasher


There really isn't an army in this game that I totally despise. But as for least favorite as far as wanting to play, it would be Necrons, Craftworld Aeldari, or Orks. Or even possibly Blood Angels. With Necrons, they seem boring as hell to paint and even worse to play. With Eldar, they might be interesting to paint and collect, but I don't feel like I would enjoy playing them. With Orks, converting and stuff would be a blast and they got some awesome new models recently, but I can't see forcing myself to paint 100+ Boyz and probably as many Grots. Doing half that many Chaos Cultists was bad enough! As for the Blood Angels, they are my least favorite Space Marines with their own book. They just don't interest me at all.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 05:41:56


Post by: Vankraken


 Yarium wrote:
T'au. I really don't like the Anime aesthetic. There are a few anime shows and movies that I enjoy (Avatar, Dragon Ball Z), but I like them in spite of the animation style. T'au scream that style and concept to me, and I just can't get on board with it. The only reason I've ever fielded T'au was because I was playing a tourney in 6th edition and if you didn't ally in a Riptide you were probably losing. (EDIT: It was my brother-in-law's Riptide, he likes them)


Tau don't really have an "Anime" aesthetic so much as its inspired by feudal Japanese armor.
Spoiler:


Granted anime is a product of Japanese culture so it draws from the same influences. Still while Space Marines might be European knights in space, the Tau are basically feudal Japan in space (somewhere in the process they forgot what a Yari is but oh well). I will also argue that none of the Tau suits are as anime as the Eldar Wraithknight which looks very close to the mecha in Evangelion.

Speaking of Eldar, those panzy gitz are the ones I would hate to play the most but if I had to i would probably field an army of Wraithguard. At least all the Eldar in the army would already be dead.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 06:57:34


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


 Brutus_Apex wrote:
40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.

To top it off, they're a mass-melee footslogging army, which is basically the straight opposite of everything I would ever want to play.


Here's the thing I don't think you're seeing. Daemons and the Warp are effectively the reason 40K isn't sci-fi. The reason you don't like them is the very reason 40K is unique and interesting as a setting. They are what makes it 40K. You don't see the as fitting in because you think 40K is sci-fi, when it's totally the opposite.

I'm not going to argue the aesthetics of the models because I think that they're lacking for the most part, but they are the essence of 40K.


Everything else went through the effort to dress up to be "In Space!", though, but the Daemons didn't. They really stick out like a sore thumb. [Also, there are quite a few "sci fi" factions, and I'd pretty easily say that the Necrons, Tau, Tyranids, and Imperial Guard are far more appealing than the Daemons, Orks, or Eldar]

Second, I'd argue that the Warp and daemons aren't actually very important to making 40k unique or interesting. 40k is unique, fun, and interesting because the Imperium is a fascist theocracy. The forces of Chaos, and enemies of the Imperium in general, are just kind of there; because fundamentally, the Imperium is so monumentally gakky because of its own policies.While the soldiers are still heroic holding off their foes, the cause of their suffering is the Imperium itself. [And, if it strays too far from this, it stops being a criticism of fascism and starts being just fascist. Sometimes, I feel like it crosses the line, especially 30k]


Eldar are my second least favorite faction.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 08:04:58


Post by: Agamemnon2


One of those tournament-winning Imperial hodgepodge lists that takes a Castellan or two, surrounds it with redshirt guardsmen and then throws in some Custodes or a random Blood Angels captain for no narratively-sound reason. Basically, armies built like MTG decks, where angels and demons go hand in hand and have a threesome with a giant squid because their rules synergise so well.

A pox on all their houses.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 08:30:17


Post by: DoomMouse


Nurgle daemons - I just hate the aesthetic and couldn't stand the painting. Which is a shame as I really enjoy collecting and using horde armies and they're currently one of the best


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 08:30:24


Post by: Ginjitzu


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
One of those tournament-winning Imperial hodgepodge lists that takes a Castellan or two, surrounds it with redshirt guardsmen and then throws in some Custodes or a random Blood Angels captain for no narratively-sound reason. Basically, armies built like MTG decks, where angels and demons go hand in hand and have a threesome with a giant squid because their rules synergise so well.

A pox on all their houses.

I change my answer to this.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 08:42:28


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Tau.

*spits*



Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 08:52:47


Post by: Chaphazar


Well that's an easy choice for me... space wolves all the way.


Would play everything with some kind of "wolf"/"wolve" in their name - of course led by glorious Santa on his sleigh!


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 09:07:54


Post by: grouchoben


I like all the armies in 40k unfortunately. It's a dangerous world for me and my whimpering wallet.

In terms of aesthetic, it would be Deathguard. Technically great models but rank.

In terms of 'screw those guys' it would be Cadians. I am bored to death of bleedin' Cadians.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 09:09:17


Post by: happy_inquisitor


I would say Knights but they are so point and click that I could probably play them while furiously concentrating on something else and hardly notice I had done it.

So either Death Guard or Necrons. Either way they are just slow and boring and just won't die so I would be force to play right to the end of the game. Death Guard do at least have one interesting model so Necrons it is.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 09:17:00


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Ginjitzu wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
One of those tournament-winning Imperial hodgepodge lists that takes a Castellan or two, surrounds it with redshirt guardsmen and then throws in some Custodes or a random Blood Angels captain for no narratively-sound reason. Basically, armies built like MTG decks, where angels and demons go hand in hand and have a threesome with a giant squid because their rules synergise so well.

A pox on all their houses.

I change my answer to this.


Seconded.
Same for Chaossoup aswell.

That and Ynnari but if i would be forced to chose then probably the IG soup since that can happen on a minescule battlefield.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 10:01:12


Post by: shortymcnostrill


Not Online!!! wrote:
 Ginjitzu wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
One of those tournament-winning Imperial hodgepodge lists that takes a Castellan or two, surrounds it with redshirt guardsmen and then throws in some Custodes or a random Blood Angels captain for no narratively-sound reason. Basically, armies built like MTG decks, where angels and demons go hand in hand and have a threesome with a giant squid because their rules synergise so well.

A pox on all their houses.

I change my answer to this.


Seconded.
Same for Chaos aswell.

That and Ynnari but if i would be forced to chose then probably the IG soup since that can happen on a minescule battlefield.



If souping is allowed then this. If not then any flavor of space marine would do the trick. They're just so utterly, utterly bland to me.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 12:07:32


Post by: Agamemnon2


 grouchoben wrote:
In terms of aesthetic, it would be Deathguard. Technically great models but rank.


Purely aesthetically, this would have to be my pick. I like the idea of undead space marines, but the bloated, tentacled and pustulent thing does nothing for me. If I was forced to do a DG force, I'd have to convert every model to be some kind of horrendous desiccated mummy with strips of peeled-off skin sloughing off their faces as they breathe.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 12:12:29


Post by: wuestenfux


When hell freezes, I would play Tyranids.
Don't like them and painting is like hell.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 12:32:41


Post by: Martel732


Space wolves followed by eldar followed by demons. The warp is stupid and shouldn't be in 40K.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 12:42:55


Post by: Ice_can


Aesthetics say anything nurgle based, it's just so disgusting.

For actual army it would be Astra BOGOF I just can't stand the codex and the attitude I've seen from people playing them, "my all catachan artillery list surrounded by sudo marines is totally fluffy and not a Competitive list. Yet take one non codex unit and your a WAAC soup player.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 14:38:51


Post by: lare2


Any static gun-line force whatever the flavour.

The idea of just standing and shooting all game would drive me nuts.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 15:20:29


Post by: Excommunicatus


Anything <IMPERIUM> would be bad, but given my own personal proclivities the worst one would be Sisters of Battle.

Are we sure death is not an option? Better dead than smeg.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 15:34:21


Post by: timetowaste85


I hate Tau, Space Wolves, Imperial Guard...of those 3, I’d probably take Tau. It’s the infantry I hate for them. I guess I’d load up on Battlesuits and do minimal infantry.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 15:39:40


Post by: Sir Heckington


 timetowaste85 wrote:
I hate Tau, Space Wolves, Imperial Guard...of those 3, I’d probably take Tau. It’s the infantry I hate for them. I guess I’d load up on Battlesuits and do minimal infantry.


You can run an all suit list, it's not even hard lol.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 16:55:13


Post by: NoiseMarine with Tinnitus


So far it seems it is neck and neck between T'au and Aeldari.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:07:27


Post by: BlackLobster


Tyranids. Outside of really small point fun games (under 1000) I've never been able to beat gribbly hordes with any other army.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:17:48


Post by: Sgt. Cortez


Tzeentch and Slaanesh have pretty ugly models on the Daemon side.
Imperial Knights are also ugly, I like their heraldry but the models themselves are lackluster.
Tyranids are a joke compared to ALIENS or Zerg (their newer models are a bit better though).

So, if I had to pick one of these three... I'd probably take Knights. I never had to face them but I can't imagine them having an interesting playstyle. Your opponent either knows what to bring or you stomp him. Little in between.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:18:04


Post by: the_scotsman


 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
So far it seems it is neck and neck between T'au and Aeldari.


Tau and Eldar are generally the most vehemently hated armies due to their "my super special rules let me ignore all your stuff" type playstyle. Space Marines usually trail behind on the hate train due to people not liking their mary-sueness and spotlight sucking, with space wolves generally topping the hated space marine factions because other space marine players tend to hate on space wolves.

So, unsurprising there.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:18:21


Post by: BBAP


Space Marines. Blech.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:23:00


Post by: Sir Heckington


Tau and Eldar most hated? Can't say I'm surprised.

I'd have to go with Tyranids, hive minds just ain't my thing.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:26:31


Post by: Melissia


Chaos Marines.

Any of them. To my discerning eye, they all suck aesthetically and their lore makes them seem whiny and pathetic most of the time. Nothing against other people playing them, but zero interest at all for me.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 17:57:55


Post by: Wibe


Age of Sigmar...
They never should have killed of the old world, I won't forgive them for that.

But to answer your actual question.. None really. The 40K lore is great. The ones I have most problems enjoying is pure daemons lists.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 18:50:26


Post by: amazingturtles


I don't really hate any of the armies though

I guess my answer would be... whichever army is easiest to accidentally break.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 18:56:52


Post by: Bharring


Either:

-IK: Because tabletop minis shouldn't be mini. And most of the other guy's options shouldn't matter.

-Orkz, assembled-as-sold. There's an army where modification and kitbashing is always better than bog-standard. Plus, I've always loved Orkz being on the table (friend or foe), but can never picture enjoying playing *as* them. I think half the magic of Orkz is the player, not the models.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 18:59:17


Post by: Elbows


Probably Tau. Cool models, dreadfully bang-head-on-desk boring in the game. I'd change my mind if they had other army builds, or still had a robust Kroot selection.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 19:19:16


Post by: mightymconeshot


Primaris Marines.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 19:20:29


Post by: Bellerophon


It's a tough question, because I can find something to like in most 40k armies.

Probably Necrons, just because I'm mainly in it for the painting and they don't give much for a painter to work with, combined with not being especially enamoured with the lore or playstyle.

Honourable mentions to Space Wolves (can't stand the overwhelming wolfiness of it all) and Drukhari (never liked the aesthetic).


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 19:21:41


Post by: alienux


For me, it would be Orks.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 19:24:15


Post by: ServiceGames


Orks

SG


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 19:44:00


Post by: jeff white


Nurgle... Just the thought of realistically painting all of that nasty mutant goo.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 20:14:25


Post by: JohnHwangDD


Life is too short. I stop.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 22:57:48


Post by: Eldarsif


Squats.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 23:01:58


Post by: HoundsofDemos


 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
 Brutus_Apex wrote:
40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.

To top it off, they're a mass-melee footslogging army, which is basically the straight opposite of everything I would ever want to play.


Here's the thing I don't think you're seeing. Daemons and the Warp are effectively the reason 40K isn't sci-fi. The reason you don't like them is the very reason 40K is unique and interesting as a setting. They are what makes it 40K. You don't see the as fitting in because you think 40K is sci-fi, when it's totally the opposite.

I'm not going to argue the aesthetics of the models because I think that they're lacking for the most part, but they are the essence of 40K.


Everything else went through the effort to dress up to be "In Space!", though, but the Daemons didn't. They really stick out like a sore thumb. [Also, there are quite a few "sci fi" factions, and I'd pretty easily say that the Necrons, Tau, Tyranids, and Imperial Guard are far more appealing than the Daemons, Orks, or Eldar]

Second, I'd argue that the Warp and daemons aren't actually very important to making 40k unique or interesting. 40k is unique, fun, and interesting because the Imperium is a fascist theocracy. The forces of Chaos, and enemies of the Imperium in general, are just kind of there; because fundamentally, the Imperium is so monumentally gakky because of its own policies.While the soldiers are still heroic holding off their foes, the cause of their suffering is the Imperium itself. [And, if it strays too far from this, it stops being a criticism of fascism and starts being just fascist. Sometimes, I feel like it crosses the line, especially 30k]


Eldar are my second least favorite faction.


I can understand not liking demons or Chaos in general but saying that they are not important to the setting is just not true. You get rid of Chaos and the entire setting and the events that got us to the current IOM is changed drastically.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 23:06:13


Post by: Formosa


Eldar... Could never bring myself to plays elves, likely because ever since I was a kid doing RPGs with my big brother I was always a dwarf.... Poncy elves ....


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/12 23:25:57


Post by: Kelligula


Genestealer Cults. As someone who loves Guard and Nids you'd think I liked them. I don't. I despise the models and the lore. I wouldn't even play the stupid things if hell froze over. I'd just quit the hobby before I played them. In your scenario I would just sit around with the models and chew on them for eternity.

Second would be Orks. I just had a bad player in my group that ruined them for me. I enjoy their lore and they have some cool models, but I will never play them. I'm too focused on Imperium and Eldar to give them any time of day.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 01:58:13


Post by: Nightlord1987


Imperial Guard. Tau. Custodes.

If you see me playing any of these, I am probably the Thing in disguise.

Might have misunderstood the OP.

I would probably enjoy playing Aeldari( craft, dark, and clowns)if I didnt hate their models and fluff.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 02:14:33


Post by: Viridian


The classic mix of World Eaters & Khorne Daemons.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 02:34:45


Post by: Saturmorn Carvilli


I don't really have a faction I hate. If I was to go by which Kill Team faction I am not planning to get it would be Eldar. Although, that largely has to do with much of their choices still be resin. Honorable mention to Genestealer Cult as I don't think I would have ever got a kill team of them if they weren't in the starter box. The feel like 40k's version of a 3rd World warlord/terrorist faction to me, and I just don't like them.

As for a full 40k army, probably Imperial Knights, Sisters of Battle, Space Wolves or again Genestealer Cults. Imperial Knights just don't seem like a real faction in the scope of a 28mm miniatures game. As for the Sisters of Battle, they feel far too much like fluff gimmick army that has not aged well. I guess the same could be said about the Space Wolves save they morphed (wolved) into a wolfing joke of wolf marines that became to wolfing much to even be wolfing funny. And Genestealer Cults, they both don't hold my interest, and I don't feel they have enough an army structure to make much sense to fight 40k battles enough to warrant a full faction. It would be like the French Resistance or something being a full fledged faction in something like Bolt Action. Sure, they fought and were even match for the opposing forces, but did/does it really happen enough to bother with a full faction?


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 06:48:00


Post by: NoiseMarine with Tinnitus


 Viridian wrote:
The classic mix of World Eaters & Khorne Daemons.


Gasp! Codex Daemonkin was a thing of beauty when Chaos in general were in a woeful state. Still quite like it.

Respect your opinion though


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 10:05:10


Post by: Crispy78


Guard. Boring. Regular humans and tanks. Yawn.

If I *had* to, I'd use Valkyries and Catachans, and try to make something like the USCM from Aliens...


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 10:08:00


Post by: stroller


I don't. I don't "hate" any army. I dislike grey knights models. Your scenario makes no sense.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 11:15:56


Post by: zerosignal


Orks.
I know, they are iconic, but I have hated the comedy joke race of 40K from the beginning.

I like my grimdark grim and dark... bit too serious maybe


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 11:34:19


Post by: roflmajog


Imperial Knights.
They just shouldn't be part of the game as a stand alone army, they are not the right scale.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 12:07:05


Post by: Cheeslord


My least favourite army is Eldar. I guess I could play them if I had to though. I would put so many buffs on all my units with cheap good psykers that nobody could remember what was buffed with what. I would also have Yvrainne and 10 Dark Reapers to shoot everyone off the board.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 16:26:31


Post by: Tyranid Horde


Imperial Knights, they're just not fun to play or play against. It comes down to whether my opponent can wipe the Castellan off the board in time or I win.

After Knights, probably Sisters of Battle, I have bad memories of Exorcist spam from the White Dwarf Codex. I also don't dig the booby armour.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 17:50:06


Post by: Isengard


Tau


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 18:16:23


Post by: Wayniac


Orks for me. hate Orks. Always have hated orks.

Or Sisters.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/13 18:32:34


Post by: Amishprn86


GK's, i dont like marines in general, but i completely hate them. I would sell my 15k DE army over playing them.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/14 04:21:02


Post by: Dakka Wolf


T'au gunline.
That said in 7th I did face off against an assault style T'au army that had kitbashed Gundam and Riptide models together, I did appreciate that.


Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play? @ 2019/02/14 07:12:30


Post by: Hawky


Since Space Marines are the dullest faction in the entire setting, including tabletop (I developed the dislike for them when I was the only non-marine player in the group) I vowed to never, ever play them.

Lately, I began thinking about getting a small Primaris Killteam, Raptors chapter. Primaris models look way better than regular marines, at least when it comes to Intercessors.