Current two (Primaris Capt and Ghost) are seemingly retired.





Likely £20 each.

Exclusive swag as well, a freebies depending your spend. Decorative Tin, Book Rucksack and Art.



My new dice tin

They changed it up, hes a Primaris Sgt, rather than a Lt.

I neeeeeeeeeeeeed that Idoneth/Flesh Eater print. Same with the Skitarii/GSC.

Both of them aren't things I recognize though.

I will of course be Looting my local store’s Anniversary come September. If I get a bunch of those art cards (and I probably will....big spend is big!) I’ll try to keep you in mind

Here's hoping they don't retcon the backpack again.

The SM is meh, but the Stormcast is really nice.

That really sucks for me, I was really hoping for a chance to grab Darrakar. Anyone happen to have one lying around?

I wonder if the tin is the existing Half Moon Bay one.

Interesting tin, Halfmoon whatever they’re called sold very similar ones on amazon for a short time. I do want a lot of those items though.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I will of course be Looting my local store’s Anniversary come September. If I get a bunch of those art cards (and I probably will....big spend is big!) I’ll try to keep you in mind

My store's in April, so I just have to wait.

Well, at least there's a calendar present, so I can ask a day off well in advance this time around..

The backpack looks nice but yeah, I am worried it may be another dud as the last one, which was less a backpack and more a fanny pack in size..

The Skitarii art is from the Genestealer Cult codex.

That Primaris' head is awful, a very odd choice.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
That Primaris' head is awful, a very odd choice.

Probably due to them using a 3d printed master as the painted display model.

I actually quite like that. Stormcast

Need more Female Stormcast Knight Incantor instead of lame old chamber Stormcast

That primaris is pretty unappealing for me as-is. Don't care for the head at all, and dead orks are pretty meh to me. I'm still going to get one (or more) as it looks like great conversion fodder. I just wish the helmet wasn't moulded where it is--looks like a bit of work to remove it.

I'll definitely pick up that Knight Questor. I just wish the mouth was moulded with a bit more of a grin to go along with the challenge stance.

That primaris look like discounted Sly Marbo.

Make you wonder GW would rather make plastic exclusive discounted Sly Marbo than making actual not exclusive store product Sly Marbo (in plastic)

GW reaaaally hates greenskins. I guess thats where all the Orktober orks went to...

(Not gonna lie though, I'd love to have the dead orks for basing decorations.)

Could have been a nice model, ruined by having an Ork on the base.

I absolutely despite bases with particularly enemies on them. "Good thing I'm fighting Eldar, but remembered to bring my random dead ork with me.".

Really poor design choice, short of painting it up as a collector's piece.

That isn't a primaris sergeant. It is "Space Marines Sergeant Jovan". No mention of him being primaris. I guess we've reached the point where we can stop pretending that old short marines exist at all.

I really like the Marine.

The pose is something different than we’re used to getting. Definitely one we could paint as a statue for terrain purposes.

Also, the Bonce? It reminds me of Burn Gorman, out of Torchwood and Game of Thrones.

I do like that marine, but I’d probably give him a different head.

I kind of like the sarg, but I'd imagine it would look on the tabletop

Its very much just a display piece.

No shop anniversary in Switzerland, that's a shame...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I really like the Marine.

The pose is something different than we’re used to getting. Definitely one we could paint as a statue for terrain purposes.

Also, the Bonce? It reminds me of Burn Gorman, out of Torchwood and Game of Thrones.

Reminds me of the wheelchair dude in the 4th alien film.

The pose is cool, but that head is fugly.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
That isn't a primaris sergeant. It is "Space Marines Sergeant Jovan". No mention of him being primaris. I guess we've reached the point where we can stop pretending that old short marines exist at all.

Yep, even the Apocalypse box coming out is the first one to not mention Primaris in the title, it's just a Space Marine Battalion, etc. They're getting there.

Ashdeuzo wrote:
No shop anniversary in Switzerland, that's a shame...

Loot Group are here for your needs

Whoso pulleth out this sword of this ork is rightwise king born of all England.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They changed it up, hes a Primaris Sgt, rather than a Lt.

the last anniversry space marine mini was a sergant too wasn't it? it's almost a pity as a Lt would have given primaris Lts a chainsword option, which would have been nice

Nope.

Captain with Plasma and Powerfist.

Trust me, I looted enough of them!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope.

Captain with Plasma and Powerfist.

Trust me, I looted enough of them!

He meant anniversary model, this one:



And yeah, at this point it's comical how all the different weapon options on primaris are going to variant models, not HQs where they could actually be useful...

*cough* Teeth of Terra *cough*

To be fair, I’m six pints down.....was that one not the 500th Store Celebration Model?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
To be fair, I’m six pints down.....was that one not the 500th Store Celebration Model?

No, this is 30th anniversary of something something Sarge model. 500th was Leftenant, yes. They made so many of these it's hard to keep track of which anniversary exactly they all were.

I want that Sergeant for my Crimson Fists. The decapitated Ork head fits perfectly with my army.

 insaniak wrote:
Whoso pulleth out this sword of this ork is rightwise king born of all England.

That made me chuckle!

How predictable...

Nice model. I will probably get one. I like the head. Makes a change from the generic square jaw/old beard, bald/buzz cut, shout/stern face space marine heads.

A diorama of that marine and Sly Marbo just sort of hanging out swapping anecdotes after a battle would look cool, I think.

Perhaps have them both looking at the 40k 25th anniversary Crimson Fist captain with ork head; "look at that try-hard. why is he waving it about?"

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope.

Captain with Plasma and Powerfist.

Trust me, I looted enough of them!

ohh right, I never did get that, hopefully they'll not phase it out just yet. not that it matters. I prefer a rifle/sword combo anyway.

I like the battle damage on the marine but the Ork feels a little derpy. Wasn't there a SCE with an Orc on his base recently enough too?

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Wasn't there a SCE with an Orc on his base recently enough too?

Leena Stormspire is standing on an orc head:


And Berek the Indomitable has just decapitated one with a hammer:

That female Stormcast is very cool.

I’d love the serge if it wasnt for the battle damage.

 AduroT wrote:
I’d love the serge if it wasnt for the battle damage.

You could always fill the detail in, although that Aquila might be difficult to fix.

 AduroT wrote:
I’d love the serge if it wasnt for the battle damage.

One step closer to chaos .

.. so 1 more similar mini and we can do mixed doubles.

I can't unsee any of those now, thanks!

Hahaha great stuff

 reds8n wrote:
.. so 1 more similar mini and we can do mixed doubles.

I would submit the Astro/tele-path from combat arena, with the right paint job the eye on her chest would look like a Horus Eye and Ben a great match partner.

Twitter link(don’t know how to attach it
https://twitter.com/trashwizz/status/1096432167738060800?s=20

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They changed it up, hes a Primaris Sgt, rather than a Lt.

This is one of the reasons that I've more or less given up on 40K. The already pathological focus on Space Marines has only gotten worse with the new Super-Duper-Uber-Primaris Space Marines.

15% larger of the exact g-d-damn thing again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...

...is still incredibly repetitive and boring. GW has a huge and rich and diverse IP. Why ANOTHER SM Sargeant?

-C6

It's what the public want. We can reasonably infer that, because they outsell ever other line offered in 40k.

 catharsix wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They changed it up, hes a Primaris Sgt, rather than a Lt.

This is one of the reasons that I've more or less given up on 40K. The already pathological focus on Space Marines has only gotten worse with the new Super-Duper-Uber-Primaris Space Marines.

15% larger of the exact g-d-damn thing again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...

...is still incredibly repetitive and boring. GW has a huge and rich and diverse IP. Why ANOTHER SM Sargeant?

-C6

Because they sell

 catharsix wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They changed it up, hes a Primaris Sgt, rather than a Lt.

This is one of the reasons that I've more or less given up on 40K. The already pathological focus on Space Marines has only gotten worse with the new Super-Duper-Uber-Primaris Space Marines.

15% larger of the exact g-d-damn thing again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...

...is still incredibly repetitive and boring. GW has a huge and rich and diverse IP. Why ANOTHER SM Sargeant?

-C6

People love space marines. Heck, I don’t even like space marines but I still love space marines.

Well.... that, but also the fact that if you have a million customers that want stuff and you call one of the minis "Limited" they sell out faster at higher prices.

 reds8n wrote:
.. so 1 more similar mini and we can do mixed doubles.

You forgot to include the speech bubble for the female player. What is she saying? Well, nothing but she moans loudly every time she hits the ball courtesy of Monica Seles.

 catharsix wrote:


...is still incredibly repetitive and boring. GW has a huge and rich and diverse IP. Why ANOTHER SM Sargeant?

-C6

At this stage 90% of 40k players are marine players who play other marine players. The last Eldar player died of old age five years ago.

It is a Space Marine because Space Marines sell. And before anyone says that's because none of the other armies get a chance, there was the lady Commissar model a few months back. My store and the other stores I frequent still has them. They started with ten of them and couldn't move them. You can STILL find the Santa White Dwarf even though he was limited like two years ago. Same with Slambo. Sly Marbo, who is a meme character with tons of Internet appeal, still available at some stores.

The SM Lieutenant with the Stalker Bolt Rifle? He sold out in an hour at the store I go to. Space Marines sell. They have made other limited models. They do not. Get over it.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It is a Space Marine because Space Marines sell. And before anyone says that's because none of the other armies get a chance, there was the lady Commissar model a few months back. My store and the other stores I frequent still has them. They started with ten of them and couldn't move them. You can STILL find the Santa White Dwarf even though he was limited like two years ago. Same with Slambo. Sly Marbo, who is a meme character with tons of Internet appeal, still available at some stores.

The SM Lieutenant with the Stalker Bolt Rifle? He sold out in an hour at the store I go to. Space Marines sell. They have made other limited models. They do not. Get over it.

Just to correct this, Severina Raine was never a limited model She's a regular stock item and not even a direct exclusive which is why you can still find her without issus. As is Marbo i believe. And that Stormcast is gorgeous. Gonna need a couple of her at least.

oh look more space marines

Mental Surge wrote:
oh look more space marines

Space Marines are their top selling army for their top selling game. if they want to release a model that the most number of their customers might find a use for then yes it will be a space marine

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It is a Space Marine because Space Marines sell. And before anyone says that's because none of the other armies get a chance, there was the lady Commissar model a few months back. My store and the other stores I frequent still has them. They started with ten of them and couldn't move them. You can STILL find the Santa White Dwarf even though he was limited like two years ago. Same with Slambo. Sly Marbo, who is a meme character with tons of Internet appeal, still available at some stores.

The SM Lieutenant with the Stalker Bolt Rifle? He sold out in an hour at the store I go to. Space Marines sell. They have made other limited models. They do not. Get over it.

Just to correct this, Severina Raine was never a limited model She's a regular stock item and not even a direct exclusive which is why you can still find her without issus. As is Marbo i believe. And that Stormcast is gorgeous. Gonna need a couple of her at least.

I stand corrected on both. Though Raine still hasn't sold through her initial stock. I am going to grab at least one of the Sergeant and that Stormcast. I like to paint my female models to resemble my daughter (she has red hair), this one will be too.


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BrianDavion wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:
oh look more space marines

Space Marines are their top selling army for their top selling game. if they want to release a model that the most number of their customers might find a use for then yes it will be a space marine

And I bet these decisions are backed up by years of sales figures too.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It is a Space Marine because Space Marines sell. And before anyone says that's because none of the other armies get a chance, there was the lady Commissar model a few months back. My store and the other stores I frequent still has them. They started with ten of them and couldn't move them. You can STILL find the Santa White Dwarf even though he was limited like two years ago. Same with Slambo. Sly Marbo, who is a meme character with tons of Internet appeal, still available at some stores.

The SM Lieutenant with the Stalker Bolt Rifle? He sold out in an hour at the store I go to. Space Marines sell. They have made other limited models. They do not. Get over it.

Just to correct this, Severina Raine was never a limited model She's a regular stock item and not even a direct exclusive which is why you can still find her without issus. As is Marbo i believe. And that Stormcast is gorgeous. Gonna need a couple of her at least.

I stand corrected on both. Though Raine still hasn't sold through her initial stock. I am going to grab at least one of the Sergeant and that Stormcast. I like to paint my female models to resemble my daughter (she has red hair), this one will be too.


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BrianDavion wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:
oh look more space marines

Space Marines are their top selling army for their top selling game. if they want to release a model that the most number of their customers might find a use for then yes it will be a space marine

And I bet these decisions are backed up by years of sales figures too.

right and this goes beyond mere "corperate greed" they release a mini for a special celebration event and presumably they want something useful to as many customers as possiable (I mean the ideal would be a special character for each faction but that's simply not something that they can afford, so they go with one char for each game) so what do they do? they choose a character usable by as many of their players as possiable. this is a space marine.
Said space marine can be used by space marine players, obviously, which account for the majority of their customers. doubly so when you consider this can be used by blood angel, space wolf and dark angel players all. ohh and death watch assuming the shoulkder pads aren't part of the arm

I don't think most sensible people object to many of the special models being the Big Popular Superhuman faction, or even most. It's the fact that it's almost every single one that's utterly tedious.

I mean, remember when Event Only models were just cool minis that didn't necessary fit into an army release? Or were themed along with that year's "big deal" release for their system? Black Orc Warboss, that Skryre-ish Skaven Warlord, Gorkamorka Nob, Female Commissar, Kroot Shaper, Archaon on foot, the Daemonslayer, the Orc Boss with his wee goblin, Chaos Sorcerer, Marco Colombo, just from Gamesdays. Then you had that run of FW Event Only models for a while like the Navigator, Titan Princeps, Davinite Priest, the Imperial and Ork pilots, the Slaan, Renegade Ogryn, Death Korps mounted Commissar, the Runtbot, Enforcer, Skinwolf, Chaos Dwarf Hellsmith, Empire Warrior Priest, Krieg Quartermaster - and sure, there were almost as many years when the 40K release was a Marine of some description, but the point of special event miniatures was to be something cool and unique for collectors and dedicated fans, not to provide one single faction for each game with variety in character models denied to all the others by the advent of all-plastic and No Model No Rules.

"Big Supeyheroes sell the best" is one reason for GW to do what they do now, it's not the only choice available to them, and it's not a reason we have to accept.

I have decided to nickname this guy Internal Monologue: "Where Did I Set My Bolt Rifle?" Space Marine.

While people have said that Marines are the posterboys of 40K and sigmarites are the posterboys/girls of AOS it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.(I mean, they kinda do but it's super super slow and inconsistent)

cody.d. wrote:
...it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.

Didn't they recently have a Nighthaunt as part of their 500th store celebration?

 Breotan wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
...it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.

Didn't they recently have a Nighthaunt as part of their 500th store celebration?

Yes they did. It was one of the those lattern wizard guys. I would really like to get one of them too.

cody.d. wrote:
While people have said that Marines are the posterboys of 40K and sigmarites are the posterboys/girls of AOS it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.(I mean, they kinda do but it's super super slow and inconsistent)

given these are birthday minis, that would achomplish very little save the inevitable thread every year of "OMG ELDAR HAVE BEEN WAITING 11 YEARS FOR A BIRTHDAY MINI! AND ADMECH GOT ONE THIS YER! HOW DARE THEY PRODUCE ANOTHER IMPERIUM MINI" it's an additude all too common,

It was also a Nighthaunt for the last Store Anniversary model.

Indeed, this is the first Stormcast model for a Store Anniversary.

Still holding out hope the Rebranding Models (Terminator Chap/Cap, Stormcasts) will be on sale on Warhammer Day. I wants one of each, and can see myself Looting a fair number extra.

I do agree with the general consensus that they should try and get some other factions into the special editions. Chaos space marines at least.

I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special. They're just, like this guy, a Primaris marine in a new pose.

There's nothing about this model that says that it's 'special' other than the really badly sculpted ork corpse on the base.

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special. They're just, like this guy, a Primaris marine in a new pose.

There's nothing about this model that says that it's 'special' other than the really badly sculpted ork corpse on the base.

That is what made the Captain with the Power Fist so cool. He had an all-new loadout that the other Primaris Captain couldn't get. And truthfully, requires three separate kits to obtain the parts necessary to create a custom version without modifying parts (Dark Angels Primaris LT for right-handed Plasma Pistol, Imperial Fists Upgrade for the Primaris Power Fist, and whatever a person uses as the base model). Same with the Nighthaunt model, it wasn't something you could get at the store in a different pose.

I am still getting at least one of this guy, but I agree, this model isn't exactly special beyond his pose ("Where did I leave my bolt rifle?").

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special. They're just, like this guy, a Primaris marine in a new pose.

There's nothing about this model that says that it's 'special' other than the really badly sculpted ork corpse on the base.

If they were special, then people complain that there's a unit that you can only get on special occasions (although the Stormcat model does have special rules). I like that these are just unique models, not unique units.

It's an unusual pose for a Marine, but I like that; most of these models will end up as display pieces, I think, so they might as well look interesting.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I do agree with the general consensus that they should try and get some other factions into the special editions. Chaos space marines at least.

They did.



Plus Sly Marbo, Inquisitor Eisenhorn, Severina Raine.

I still refuse to be satisfied until there's a Tyranid special model!

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

If they were special, then people complain that there's a unit that you can only get on special occasions (although the Stormcat model does have special rules). I like that these are just unique models, not unique units.

I wasn't saying that they should have unique rules, just that they should look like something other than a slightly reposed, bog-standard marine.

This guy doesn't look like a display piece. He looks like a Primaris marine.



That Noise Marine, now... he's currently sitting on my painting pile. That's a special model done right.


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 Overread wrote:
I still refuse to be satisfied until there's a Tyranid special model!

We had one, once. It was a limited edition metal Lictor in the 4th edition army box.

If you looked really, really closely, you could see the slight difference in the angle of the scything talons from the standard model...




Also, there was the termagant on the dissection table from the Skullz program.

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special.

Never more exemplified in their choice of miniature to celebrate 30 years of the game that made them a fortune.

This goon.

What were they thinking?

No Primaris has a longer purity seal than him. Isn't that special enough for you?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I do agree with the general consensus that they should try and get some other factions into the special editions. Chaos space marines at least.

They did.



Plus Sly Marbo, Inquisitor Eisenhorn, Severina Raine.

Only a small percentage compared to primaris though.

These female stormcasts look super derpy.

 insaniak wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

If they were special, then people complain that there's a unit that you can only get on special occasions (although the Stormcat model does have special rules). I like that these are just unique models, not unique units.

I wasn't saying that they should have unique rules, just that they should look like something other than a slightly reposed, bog-standard marine.

This guy doesn't look like a display piece. He looks like a Primaris marine.

YMMV. I think that'll look good on a shelf. I agree the 40k 30th anniversary marine was a little dull, though.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
...it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.

Didn't they recently have a Nighthaunt as part of their 500th store celebration?

Yes they did. It was one of the those lattern wizard guys. I would really like to get one of them too.

The Lantern was for store birthdays.


It was a fancy Bladegheist Revenant for the 500th.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
...it would be nice if they cycled through the various factions.

Didn't they recently have a Nighthaunt as part of their 500th store celebration?

Yes they did. It was one of the those lattern wizard guys. I would really like to get one of them too.

The Lantern was for store birthdays.


It was a fancy Bladegheist Revenant for the 500th.

And in both scenarios I want them really bad!

Part of the gripe is these one off plastic 1 character sprue are popping out while some codexes are really struggling with even basic characters/ units being very outdated or gakky resin because we are told repeatedly how expensive injection molding & design is. Of course people are being peeved off lol.


TTBH I don't even care if its SM. Just make it so its not dave. generic primaris #1234... Also know as dave sword-in-ork-head-primaris... Honestly don't care if its an Imperium...At least make it a terminator, librarian, a space wolf or anything else really...It doesn't have to be my faction. Make it a necron.. an ork.. even a grey knight. Anything as long as its unique enough to want to pick up for collecting & painting purposes/ used in Killteam...

I think these are supposed to be more as a piece of art collectabile than a game piece. I get its nice these are also functional but are they... though.. really ?? I just said other models can be used in any kill team. When was the last time someone went: "Hmm...lacking low tier SM character for my army I need another one?"


That Noise marine was sweet tho.

 Argive wrote:
Just make it so its not dave. generic primaris #1234...

At the current rate, Lieutenants will outnumber regular Marines.

 Breotan wrote:

 Argive wrote:
Just make it so its not dave. generic primaris #1234...

At the current rate, Lieutenants will outnumber regular Marines.

That sounds just like the sort of thing the bureaucratic mess that is the Imperium could engineer

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I do agree with the general consensus that they should try and get some other factions into the special editions. Chaos space marines at least.

I read this thread and I am wondering if I got into some bizzarro world where everything is the opposite. Especially on Space Marine whining (which is especially hilarious when you consider all they got within last 18 months was a single release, half of monopose box that is about to be discontinued, which had extra terrible rules to boot). Yes, they got all of two special edition lieutenants, too, one of which was on sale for a single day and the other that is not on sale yet. Gee, what bounty!

And chaos? Gee, they only had in the same period the Death Guard (which on its own outweighs all of Space Marine releases going back all the way to 2016), army that got only five different kits of their troop unit, two of them special edition ones, plus a gazillion characters (which is about to become two gazillion with next release), gigantic pile of Nurgle vomit, which was equally big in scope, even larger Black Legion release (and the CSM actually got good rules unlike Vanguard), plus slaaneshy SM model and another pile of chaos daemons. Poor chaos players, only 4 (and if we go back to primaris release, 5 because of Tzeenth/TS) releases that dwarfed all the other releases in the game since then, even the supposedly 'big' ones. Whatever they will do? That's not enough!

 Irbis wrote:
Whatever they will do? That's not enough!

Yes yes, but have you seen the possessed models, there's clearly more need here.

Yeah, but I, and most others are talking about limited edition models mate, not regular releases.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special.

Never more exemplified in their choice of miniature to celebrate 30 years of the game that made them a fortune.

This goon.

What were they thinking?

Yeah whenever I do see that guy I always initially confuse him for the freebie primaris GW uses to teach people how to paint. Its probably why many of the ones since have been helmet-less.

 aka_mythos wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special.

Never more exemplified in their choice of miniature to celebrate 30 years of the game that made them a fortune.

This goon.

What were they thinking?

Yeah whenever I do see that guy I always initially confuse him for the freebie primaris GW uses to teach people how to paint. Its probably why many of the ones since have been helmet-less.

guy who runs my local GW told me the reason for all the Primaris Lts was that GW had their sculptors design a bunch of differant leuitenants when they where moving to Primaris, and choose eventually to sue all the results as various special figures. I bet the 30th anniversry was one of those prototypes as well. It WOULD explain why the first primaris image to leak back in the day was a Leuiteant

BrianDavion wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special.

Never more exemplified in their choice of miniature to celebrate 30 years of the game that made them a fortune.

This goon.

What were they thinking?

Yeah whenever I do see that guy I always initially confuse him for the freebie primaris GW uses to teach people how to paint. Its probably why many of the ones since have been helmet-less.

guy who runs my local GW told me the reason for all the Primaris Lts was that GW had their sculptors design a bunch of differant leuitenants when they where moving to Primaris, and choose eventually to sue all the results as various special figures. I bet the 30th anniversry was one of those prototypes as well. It WOULD explain why the first primaris image to leak back in the day was a Leuiteant

You tell the difference betweenprimaris lL, a srgt, or trooper?

As an eldar dude... I understand eldar. The taller the helmet, the more bad ass you are

 Argive wrote:

You tell the difference betweenprimaris lL, a srgt, or trooper?

As an eldar dude... I understand eldar. The taller the helmet, the more bad ass you are

Dat's just coz' panzees need funny hats to do what Orks do natcherally. Da big 'uns in charge.

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BrianDavion wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I think the real problem with the constant stream of 'special' Primaris marines is that most of them aren't particularly special.

Never more exemplified in their choice of miniature to celebrate 30 years of the game that made them a fortune.

This goon.

What were they thinking?

Yeah whenever I do see that guy I always initially confuse him for the freebie primaris GW uses to teach people how to paint. Its probably why many of the ones since have been helmet-less.

guy who runs my local GW told me the reason for all the Primaris Lts was that GW had their sculptors design a bunch of differant leuitenants when they where moving to Primaris, and choose eventually to sue all the results as various special figures. I bet the 30th anniversry was one of those prototypes as well. It WOULD explain why the first primaris image to leak back in the day was a Leuiteant

You tell the difference betweenprimaris lL, a srgt, or trooper?

As an eldar dude... I understand eldar. The taller the helmet, the more bad ass you are

it's actually simple. If he remembers how to use a chain sword he hasn't been promoted past sergent yet. if he's forgotten how to use a sword and rifle at the same time he's a leuitenant. if he remembers how to use his sword and rifle together, but has forgotten how to use a chainsword he's a Captain.

.. I wish I was joking :(

The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

I mark Corporals in my squads, they’re the guys who lead the second half of a Combat Squad.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

I think in part that's simply because the way warhammer armies are built up and the scale they operate at means that having a bigger ranking system on display in the game just doesn't work all that well practically. Otherwise instead of 15 marines, you'd have 3 marines and then every rank grade all the way up to your unique hero filling out the rest. Ergo you could easily wind up with more leaders than troops. So you'd always have a fragmented command structure until you got into game scales ilke Apoc/Epic where you could have far more individual marines on the table and show a proper rank structure. Of course at epic scales the differences between some of those ranks are going to be almost impossible to practically see

I probably wouldn't mind the SCE model but there are no GW stores anywhere near me and I imagine the ebay et al prices will be very silly.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

How many ranks do you need for an army of 1000?

Sergeants command 9 other Marines.

One Captain and 2 Lieutenants command 100 Marines.

Chapter Master commands the whole lot of 1000 Marines.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

How many ranks do you need for an army of 1000?

Sergeants command 9 other Marines.

One Captain and 2 Lieutenants command 100 Marines.

Chapter Master commands the whole lot of 1000 Marines.

beyond that, Marines are also a "warrior brotherhood" more so then a military unit. I suspect that rank is kept fairly minimum to foster that additude the more ranks you put in, the more you divide your people rank may also be less a "rank" as a role. A sergent for example may be promoted to the 1st company where he serves as a common battle brother, and it's likely not seen as a demotion but as an honor. Space Marine Chapters likely are run on a completely differant mindset from what we have.

Sunny Side Up wrote:
Sergeants command 9 other Marines.

One Captain and 2 Lieutenants command 100 Marines.

Plus specialists:
Apothecary; Ancient; Techmarine; Champion
and kinda leaders:
Chaplain; Librarian
and company veterans
And you're probably looking at closer to 1/5 Marines has some sort of rank/title.

BrianDavion wrote:

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The SM rank structure is weird. Seems to jump from marine to sgt, no corporal or anything, then sergeant to lieutenant. I guess marines are so good they don't need any ranks in between

How many ranks do you need for an army of 1000?

Sergeants command 9 other Marines.

One Captain and 2 Lieutenants command 100 Marines.

Chapter Master commands the whole lot of 1000 Marines.

beyond that, Marines are also a "warrior brotherhood" more so then a military unit. I suspect that rank is kept fairly minimum to foster that additude the more ranks you put in, the more you divide your people rank may also be less a "rank" as a role. A sergeant for example may be promoted to the 1st company where he serves as a common battle brother, and it's likely not seen as a demotion but as an honor. Space Marine Chapters likely are run on a completely different mindset from what we have.

In the lore and novels marines know who has more experience with this and that, and what each of their brothers are best at and so there is a certain flexibility to their chain of command because of it. Realistically you'd run into problems the minute they have to work with anyone outside their chapter. Its easy to imagine some sort of rank hierarchy and conformance is spelled out in the Codex Astartes.

In second edition, in addition to the sergeant, you had a second marine with a back banner that was called a "Squad Leader" and represented the guy in charge of the other half of a squad if a unit were organized into combat squads. This would likely be the "Corporal" equivalent.

I think some of the omitted ranks from a practical stand point would just be covered by their various badges and honors, things like service studs and terminator honors would denote certain marines as having seniority over someone with an otherwise identical rank that didn't have those. I think the hierarchy between otherwise identical ranks is somewhat covered by marine companies being organized by some amount veteranship. Where a 1st company captain is likely senior to a 6th company captain.

Where it would really get confusing is with chapters that do choose to have some of these intermediate ranks where others don't; since a marine with more experience could end up spending a decade in this intermediate rank where in another chapter someone with less experience might end up simply jumping up to that next higher rank and having some sort of learning period. This sort of rank issue caused contention between the different nations working together during the Napoleonic Wars.

Beyond the ranks that we see in the codex, the only other specialized ranks a Chapter might need are ones handling more of the logistical and administrative side of the chapter... as a chapter is such a relatively small force with a large foot print. This is where we end up with specialized captains like the Master of the Watch, Master of the Arsenal, Master of the Fleet, Master of Marches, Master of Rites... etc; these are sometimes but not always company captains. The small size means a chapter easily ends up with specialization distinguishing rank as much as the rank itself.

IIRC the squad 2ic model in2nd edition had sergeant-like markings (black shoulder pads on Blood Angels, the red Iron Halo badge on Ultramarines, the icon over the pack marking for Space Wolves).

Also, I think the titles such as Master of the Fleet, Marches, etc, are mostly ceremonial. The actual work will be done by the Chapter Serfs.


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From the point of view of the wider Imperium, a Chapter Master is of the same rank as a planetary governor - both of them are “Imperial Commanders”.

Wee bit of threadomancy to feedback on the freebies.

Managed to secure a clean sweep via my Looting, and what I got was really rather nice.

Art Prints are your basic tier. Four in total, two AoS, two 40k. A3 in size, matte print on heavy stock paper. About an inch or so of white border, so should frame up nicely should you choose to do so. Not a bad reward for a relatively meagre £50 spend!

Plasma Tin is the second tier. £100 spend required, if memory serves. It’s...pretty chunky and pretty well made. Should be able to store my dice, or other various odds and sods. Nice little perk, again considering it’s a relatively low buy in price.

Rucksack is the third tier. £200 spend required. If you got one of last year’s rucksacks? This is a significant improvement in quality. I’d say easily two, two and half times the carrying capacity. Stitching also feels a lot, lot stronger. Definitely enough to put on of GW’s medium carry cases in without stretching the material any. Also has adjustable side straps, so if your travelling light it’ll hold better.

Me? I spent the full £400, so got one of each. Had that spend not been purely Anniversary Models (17 Jovun, 6 Larissa, all spoken for as they were bought to order), I’d have got one each of the Anniverary models free as well, which is nice.

Overall, if you like your bells and doohickeys, and your store Anniversary is coming up, worth scraping the cash together for the top tier if you were going to spend anyway. Certainly I don’t feel short changed at all, despite them being freebies.


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Point of possible interest. The Plasma Ammo tin is not hinged. Closer to a biscuit tin, in that the lid comes right off.

And yes. This is going to be my new biscuit tin.


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And made by Half Moon Bay.

Thanks for the tiers. A store close to me had their bday not that long ago, but didn't share the tiers anywhere as I really want the tin but was a bit worried that it would cost me well beyond my budget. €130,- to spend for the tin is not bad at all, was planning on getting the Ork Spearhead anyway, so double win, so long as they still sell it come 26th of October.

Dimensions of the tin are 25.5 (w) x 17.5 (h) x 9.5 (d) cm btw.

Last year's backpack was a horrible thing, not to mention so tiny. That's probably why they tossed in that box for stratagem cards at that tier as well.

So my local store was damaged in a tornado. So they won't be open during their anniversary. So if anyone is able to pick up an extra Anniversary Marine, I will gladly pay above the MSRP on it plus shipping.

These are much nicer overall.

None are exactly essential. One can easily do without them.

But as rewards, one does feel suitably rewarded.

If anyone wants the art prints, I’m doing a ‘postage only’ draw in the FB Loot Group, to be drawn around this time next Saturday. Nice as they are, I don’t have a burning desire for them.

Backpack is spoken for (fellow mass Looter got stiffed), and the Tin is mind!


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So my local store was damaged in a tornado. So they won't be open during their anniversary. So if anyone is able to pick up an extra Anniversary Marine, I will gladly pay above the MSRP on it plus shipping.

Hit up the Loot Group. We can sort you At Cost

But when your store does reopen, chance at the Relocation models (Termie Cap and Chap, Berek and I Can’t Remember Her Name)!

Thanks, Mad Doc. I put a message in your FB thread and made a general post. Your group got me the last Anniversary Marine, so I have hope.

Unfortunately, the manager of the store has been kept out of the loop for what GW is planning to do right now. I hope they figure something out, he is a cool guy and was already relocated once.

Hmm local to me is having its Bday on the 27October
And I've got a £30 voucher for use in store

And that's Bonereaper month - darn it I wish I knew when they were releasing them now! With the voucher and bag that would nicely make up for buying them at GW prices over getting them at 3rd party store discount prices. Esp if the bag is turning out to be quite a nice solid investment (even though I'm likely going to grab one of the KR bags or general hobby use at some stage as well).

Anyone know if you can put ordered-in-store preorders toward Bday purchases (as we've no idea what weeks Bonereapers will launch on)

I suspect you’ll need to ask your local manager.

Having been a till monkey (update after this, for amusement), I suspect the answer might be ‘yes’, given it’s a more or less guaranteed sale, with nowt to lose.

Amusement story? Old till monkeys never lose their touch. Whilst picking up my gubbins, guy came in asking if Space Hulk had expansions. I suggested to manager and Former Boss BSF? Sale went from a copy of WD to WD and BSF.


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Thanks, Mad Doc. I put a message in your FB thread and made a general post. Your group got me the last Anniversary Marine, so I have hope.

Unfortunately, the manager of the store has been kept out of the loop for what GW is planning to do right now. I hope they figure something out, he is a cool guy and was already relocated once.

I’ve picked up for a couple of local guys, and have messaged them to ask if either minds foregoing for the moment. Will let you know! If not, keep your eyes on the group, because there are always Anniversary loots

As long as someone doesn't end up missing out as a result, I would greatly appreciate that. Thanks!