Right so this is the second time Archon (who are the folk who were behind Prodos) are coming to KS with this, they've previously delivered most of the Cathedral theme and are starting delivery of the Aztec stuff
this is their legacy offering and they say they can delivery this within a month of the end of the KS
and new this time round is the factory stuff which is going to take longer
Haasbioroid wrote: I was coming to post about this! I'm so excited. For 100 bucks that is a ridiculous amount of stuff!!
Don't forget to add the $30 shipping to that (in the PM)
I got my 2 Kazumi sets last Friday. Overall I'm happy with what I got. It is HIPS but it's a bit softer than GW type HIPS for terrain it holds the detail well so no complaints there. The sets contents weren't quite as listed as they rejigged the tools after the KS but for anything lost I gained elsewhere so happy enough plus as the tools are done now what they list in this KS for legacy stuff is what you get. The pegs are hit and miss some too lose some too tight but I perma glued everything anyway. Not sure how the magnet versions would hold up. I did have to trim here and here to make some panels fit or sit flush. It would have been nice to get half sized (square panels) for shorter sides or turns but some panels can be cut in half to make that work.
The floors are the biggest let down for me they just don't look or work well I can see what they tried to do but I don't feel it works. I've made my own floors with 5mm Foam PVC. The floors will be cut up for rubble scatter and what not.
Out of the 2 sets an managed to make 3 2 storey part ruined buildings, a 3 tiered half Ziggurat (back is exposed for access) and 5 smaller ruins.
I'd get a another set but $23 on a $49 pledge just puts it outside what I'd pay for a single set.
Delivery was by UPS if you're wondering about the cost.
All is not forgiven for AvP but this for me was good start.
Sure apologies for the poor lighting best I can do for now on my phone. The other buildings need to be glued together so I've just photographed the finished ones.
Foam PVC is soft enough to score lines and patterns into and carves up well for damage. Building 3 shows where I split a panel on the upper floor and hid it with columns
Many thanks, that's the one i'm most interested in so it's good to see what somebody can make
(and useful to know the floor sections might well need to be discounted.... BoW ended up using card as floors with their cathedral stuff too, but I think that's as the floors hadn't been finished by the time it was done)
I followed the BoW build yes the floors weren't done but they'd never have covered the area needed with Rampart floors anyway as the buildings are so big that needed a different approach.
I felt the overhang of the floors was fine for Kazumi and minimised cutting and fitting but the Cathedral would need more work to make a custom floor fit.
I got the Kazumi temple today, I agree with DaveC. Really nice stuff, but the floors are a bit off mechanically and even if you got enough of them, the consoles that hold them are just visually jarring.
OK, this is tempting, but I'd like to clear up a couple of things:
1. There's no way to get a mix of regular and "solidified" sets it seems like? You either get three or one or three of the other.
2. The shipping table thing - is the "+13" thing on the top row the "2nd shipment at a flat cost" for stretch goals/the new theme? Or are you paying shipping+13 for the January delivery only, and you have to pay a second fee when the wave 2 stuff is ready?
3. How does this match up with the modern GW terrain kits? I'm not expecting a seamless match obviously, but are they roughly the correct height, thickness etc that you could use both as part of the same structure?
Illumini wrote: This looks really great, I am at least in for a 3x core set pledge. Love your Aztec Reichtag DaveC. It looks huge. How big is it approximately?
300mm wide at the base by 210mm tall by 210mm deep
For comparison the panels are 68mm high (including the floor/roof I made) versus 74mm for Warcry terrain and 130mm wide including 2 columns either end versus 110mm for warcry terrain. They are are a good fit as alternate terrain for Warcry.
My other bits arrived the other day so I started going to work on putting it all together.
I'd say the 50 dollar set is plenty for a Kill Team or WarCry board. The 100 dollars or up would be overkill for a board that size, but for a larger game it would be great.
I'm digging the Kazumi motif. Outside of 3D printed stuff I can't think of much else available for jungle temple type scenery.
Extra figure models are always a nice bonus as well.
many extra bits added on free (1 set per pledge NOT 1 per core set) for the 1st vs the electrohead statue won, the second the Olmec head and the third the portal (we don't get the loser)
Yeah I think I'll get a set of Cobalt and an gakton of stretch goal sprues. Really missed the option to buy extras of stretch goals in the last campaign.
The wall topper add on (5 for $5) plus the various Kazumi themed stretch goals might be enough for me to justify the $23 shipping for another set but I'd have to park what I've been working on until June (like I don't have a load of other things to work on!) in for $1 and I'll decide in the PM.
So, it looks like from the Reaper forum that this is kinda shaky on delivery and whatnot. Is it worth buying for the quality, even if it takes a while to show up?
JNAProductions wrote: So, it looks like from the Reaper forum that this is kinda shaky on delivery and whatnot. Is it worth buying for the quality, even if it takes a while to show up?
I have no clue what those guys are on about. Projected delivery was May, I got wave 1 in June or July which Reaper itself can only dream of doing. Wave 2 delivered a few weeks ago. Communication was top notch, we got constant updates with pictures of molds being tooled and fresh sprues being cast. Archon has skeletons in the closet for sure, but Rampart is not one of them.
JNAProductions wrote: So, it looks like from the Reaper forum that this is kinda shaky on delivery and whatnot. Is it worth buying for the quality, even if it takes a while to show up?
I have no clue what those guys are on about. Projected delivery was May, I got wave 1 in June or July which Reaper itself can only dream of doing. Wave 2 delivered a few weeks ago. Communication was top notch, we got constant updates with pictures of molds being tooled and fresh sprues being cast. Archon has skeletons in the closet for sure, but Rampart is not one of them.
Okay. Follow-up question: Is the Kickstarter the only way to get the goods, or is it also for sale outside of Kickstarts? I couldn't find that info anywhere.
It depends what you went in for I just got Kazumi. There was no mention that I can recall that this theme would be done second meaning that it wasn't shipped until November on a May delivery estimate but 6 months on a KS isn't all that bad and the Cathedral theme shipped with far less delay.
They bought new machines and had teething problems, they made mistakes and corrected them as best they could, a few tools changed when they actually knew what they could make. They did make updates about these issues. 2 themes are already done and they should be able to get the Cobalt theme and the stretch goal sprues done with a 6 month turn around now they have more experience. The only potential issue would be if their Dungeons and Lasers KS runs late that would have a knock on effect here as they will be using the same machines for both - I didn't back that one so I don't know how its going.
Quality is good see my post above for my thoughts only issue I have is with the floors but I worked around that.
I'd definitely get more I'm just trying to justify the shipping cost for another set.
My Kazumi pledge came in a week or so ago. While that set got pushed back it was communicated to us early on enough that at least we knew what to expect.
I'm still undecided if I just want to go ahead and glue the pegs in. They don't fit as snug as I would like, but at least having them set in the main walls would definitely give it a bit more stability.
Personally I really enjoyed all the scatter terrain that's included. Wasn't too impressed with the floor/ceiling clipping system, but it is what it is. I'd suggest getting a few extra stairs as you don't really get any.
I've backed just about every non- Aliens vs Predator Archon/ LOAD/ Prodos campaign at this point and I've gotten everything I paid for. I'd had some errors on my Empires of Man models and they took care of those.
JNAProductions wrote: So, it looks like from the Reaper forum that this is kinda shaky on delivery and whatnot. Is it worth buying for the quality, even if it takes a while to show up?
Also look at their previous Rampart customer comments. I'm not seeing many complaints.
Archon has a dungeon terrain KS whose PM will open in January.
I'm in no hurry to buy terrain and mebbe Archon will have additional KS with more and better interlocking terrain in future KS.
48 hour emails just went out so I re-checked what was on offer and ended up backing at the $149 level again. Looks like 3 sets of Cobalt will be joining my 1 Citadel and 2 Kazumi. Plus somewhere between 5 and 10 sets of stretch goals. The value there is insane.
We still have a few items to give away as part of our stretch goals so keep plugging away at them but once/if we hit$300k, the we will unlock the Wolverine Tank Stretch Goal. „But aren’t stretch goals normally free?” I hear you say? Yes, at $300k, the High Commander has deemed your platoon worthy of receiving additional fire support in the form of a Wolverine Carrier tank which will be included for FREE in every pledge of $49+. This isn’t some 6mm sized miniature tank. This is a full sized, in your face, weapons locked and loaded, transporter of doom at 32mm scale.
well that's a major stretch goal ($214K now, target $300K in 44 hours)
Edit: It's limited to one per pledge and does not apply to any additional stretch goal packages purchased. (so no planning to get dozens without separate mailing addresses & lots of shipping fees)
I saw the On Table Top guys building a mahoosive table of the cathedral stuff.
I'd backed the Dungeons and Lasers stuff after that. Really liking the alien stuff in there, and all the little animals that come with it. KS updates suggest they've had a bit of a rethink re: sizes to allow some of the more common larger models to fit better in them. Think they'd designed around 32mm being the largest and they say feedback suggested somewhere up from that, maybe 40mm as a base.
Was contemplating ordering when I saw the cathedral set up for sale on their store, but thankfully this has come around before I bit the bullet on that. The cobalt stuff looks good. The mayan/lizardmen temple theme is nice, but I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of it, so probably go for one of each of the others. Definitely going for an extra set of stairs and KS1 goals as well. The tank is pretty nice too.
They're really making it difficult not to pledge aren't they?
I'll make it a bit easier to not pledge.Remember Prodos?
Prodos was the company that ran the disasterous AVP kickstarter - they copyright claimied there own kickstarter to hide the comments section, they didnt deliver goods, they didnt make some items unlocked in the kickstarter at all, and they refused refunds.
Whilst all this was cracking off they launched the 'Space Crusade' line of figures - capitalising on GWs lapsed copyright, to release arguably the most bizarre range of miniatures ever - heavily armoured big breasted women, wearing nothing on there torsos because.. ya know.. breasts. These were advertised with digital paint jobs as well which Prodos claimed definately were hand painted... definitely...
They've since lost the Warzone Resurrection license, and then the AVP license, they've stopped selling anything - if you go to the website you can still see plenty of items (bases, templates, space crusade - things which should be in stock) are just not available. Which seems... unusual.
Now whenever you ask Archon about Prodos, they insist that there an entirely separate company... which shares the same address... and telephone number.. and directors... its hard to find much about the back end of Archon but with a little digging its clear its the same people.
Archon reminds me a lot of Defiance games - lots of people saying its great, theyve had there stuff, alls well etc. until its not, and then a new company suddenly pops up, people rush to there defence, and the cycle starts anew.Now I'm not saying those people are as bad as Tony Reidy, but... they've never apologised or admitted fault. They've just brushed it all under the rug it seems.
As for On Table Top supporting them - those were the same chaps that promoted the Defiance Games kickstarter. Now they never declared whether they received money or not for that article (which if they did, they need to as there based in the UK), but they didnt do a follow up piece when everything went to pot either, or make any amendments regarding the company sort of but not really changing hands - so as a news and information source there about as good as Alex Jones.
What Gomez says is entirely fair. I backed Rampart 1 with a trembling hand myself, but I think they really cleaned up their act now. Their goal is to get manufacturer contracts for bigger companies, they can't screw around anymore.
but they have delivered reasonably well on all the projects they've run under the Archon banner
(ie post AvP which was a disaster no doubt about it)
and they can design, tool and product plastic sprues (and sprues of this type too as the previous Rampart project showed)
but as with all things KS it's a gamble, do your research, check the comments of previous projects and don't pledge money you cant afford to (grudgingly) loose
Like others have said, do your research and pledge responsibly if you feel uncomfortable backing.
At least they seem to have their eyes on the long game this time with the idea of getting this to retail.
Outside of their resin Empire of Men line, most all of their products have entered traditional gaming distribution channels.
I'd imagine these sets will be no different and probably will be available at various online retailers in a reasonable amount of time.
As I've mentioned, I've pledged for all their non- licensed campaigns and have had everything show up with no real hitches, and when there were issues, they resolved them for me.
The creators of the first LOAD KS originally refused to identify themselves, citing a NDA. However, after tying them to the Demigods Evolution KS (do your due diligence), they were somehow able to lift this NDA and revealed themselves to be Archon. Some sleuthing later found Archon to be a company with the same everything, except liabilities (eg. AvP) as Prodos. Same Jarek, same directors, different relatives of Jarek owning the company, though. After five years, Prodos *did* send out a letter explaining how AvP backers could finally get their stuff (and/or credit), so I think that's as reasonable as you can get with a KS. And their customer service seems, while mixed, improved.
Given Prodos and its use of "Space Crusade", I also noticed Prodos's animal companions SG with their recent KS. Another creator ran two dressed-up animal companion KS earlier, and it was obvious that Prodos was using their idea. My background is boardgames, so this rubbed me the wrong way. You don't just lift someone else's boardgame idea and mechanics from another designer. OTOH, I think it's more common and accepted with miniatures, including with roleplaying game miniatures (eg. WizKids and Reaper's unpainted plastic lines).
I did pick up their LOAD game for $30 during the holidays. Man, those mini's are sweet, even if the theme was lifted from DoA (or LoL), and the gameplay's no good.
Anyway, Rampart has a $50 pledge level. My risk level is $70 or lower and I was greedy enough to fork $150 to Cryptozoic for their Walking Dead game. With Prodos making amends (AFAIK) to AvP, and that tank, I'm looking closely.
I pledged for Warzone rather heavily, and got everything. Even bought a bunch of their non-KS stuff as the years passed. Pledged for LOAD...as stated the minis are awesome and the gameplay is awful. I avoided AvP and Space Crusade, but got a single set of Kazumi parts during Rampart I...great stuff.
So I am backing Rampart 2 for more Kazumi...but that tank is truly icing on the cake. While Starcide may not be for me, those snakemen miniatures are HUGE.
I'm becoming a regular backer of kickstarters but I must admit I don't do my research. It's interesting to know that this was Prodos games, because several members of my gaming club weren't too pleased with their earlier antics, and not too long ago I managed to pick up masses of Warzone miniatures for next to nothing at a gaming show.
With that knowledge I know they make beautiful models, but weren't very good with organisation.
I backed Rampart at $150 pledge level so fingers crossed they have upped their game, and by the sounds of the other comments here they may well have.
Sacredroach wrote: So I am backing Rampart 2 for more Kazumi...but that tank is truly icing on the cake. While Starcide may not be for me, those snakemen miniatures are HUGE.
The space snakemen are amazing. I just wish they didn't have sci-fi details molded on, would be great for Kroxigor-equivalents otherwise.
I was quite tempted when I saw the Aztec looking terrain since it would fit my regiment quite nicely. But still a bit reluctant if I would really have a need for it. Now that the tank is also almost unlocked I pledged the starter set. If we are lucky and the wolverine gets shipped too, that alone might be worth 20-30 $
But I appreciate the recommendations here to do some research and don't pledge money one would be more than a bit frustrated to loose.
Any ideas what to use the tank for? What's the best count as model for that one...Sponsonless vanquisher might fit but damn that sucks rulewise(plus no hull weapon).
If you glue a bolter on somewhere it could be a Gryphonne pattern Chimera with Autocannon or a Salamander Scout tank. If it gets shipped, the latter is what I will use it for.
I think the intention is to use it as an excuse to back Starcide in 2020. After all, you're already gonna have a unit of space snakes, a unit of space vampires and a big human tank. You could go for any faction at this point!
I'll probably use mine (and several more no doubt) in my "counts as" Krieg army.
I have about 200 Dust Germans I bought from MM for cheap and made them into squads, all I need now is cheap tanks, cheap artillery and time to paint them all khaki and beige.
But in all fainess to FW, I have two squads of Death Riders.
Well they hit the target and got the tank (limit 1 per pledge free, but you will be able to add extra in the PM), and also got the final priestess stretch goal too
So what’s next?
Hello everyone, my name is Michal Hartlinski and I’m the Project Manager for Rampart 2.0
Well Bob has decided to retire for a while and I’ll be taking over the show. We’ve quite some work ahead of us considering the new theme, stretch goals and the add-ons.
For those not familiar with the KS payment process :
Kickstarter will be charging your account, and after two weeks they will transfer those funds to us with backers' information. At this point, we will import that data into the Pledge manager. The pledge manager will be opened in January and if you select any legacy products and opt for Rapid Delivery (January 2020) we will process this and begin shipping to you in January
If you are not interested in Rapid delivery, you will have until March to close your pledge manager.
Shipping process
The items are going to be shipped from our factory in Poland. As we have no other shipping obligations in January/Feb, we are going to focus 100% on this KS shipping. Our current shipping capacity is 150 parcels a day, approx. 750 parcels a week.
I would like to remind everyone that all the stretch goals from this campaign, the Cobalt Factory and the Wolverine tank will begin shipping in June.
Survey
We will be sending about a survey to all backers. We’d ask you to fill this in as it provides us with useful information on what you expect from KS and will also allow us to get a head start on production so we can get your pledge to you that much faster. Not to mention those who fill the Survey with their KS mail will get extra miniature. Click here if you want to complete survey NOW.
If you are late to party or you got a friend who is into terrain and Kickstarter bonuses, we invite to Late Pledge here. Bear in mind that Late Pledge and Pledge Manager are two different things.
The next big email from us will be announcing the opening of the Pledge Manager. This will give you the option of adding further funds to your pledge, choosing your themes and add-ons and selecting if you would like Rapid Delivery.
StarCide Development
For those of you interested in StarCide development, drop by our Facebook group!
Plus shipping... Wanted to add one $10 add-on to the pledge, but it bumped the shipping up by $15! Keep an eye on the shipping if you are doing add-ons.
Got my legacy (already in production) Kazumi stuff ok in the time frame they promised which is cool, looks like I was among the first to have stuff sent out
now just got to wait for the stretch goal stuff and tank
and given the weight of the box they weren't making anything on the shipping
Got my 2 Cathedral sets on Wednesday. Looks nice. I got a set of the Legacy Stretch Goals and they're not bad. I really like the techno-jesus statue. Should go good with my Sisters Of Battle. I really like some of the Aztec-y bits too. Not enough that I'm regretting skipping that style. Got a Cobalt, and all the extras coming in the far future at some point.
I've also backed their Dungeons and Lasers project, and they just launched the pledge manager for that, but have been changing the dimensions and fitting of the walls so I'd think that might still be a little ways off.
We are on schedule with tooling CNC, but behind the injection manufacturing, however, the delay will be corrected with an additional manufacturing shift, starting next week.
On track with Tooling, action to be taken for injection.
If you have not done it, please fill in and close your pledge manager by the 26th of June. The status of your pledge manager should say: Placed and Paid. Failure to close your pledge at this time will result in pledges shipping without your pledge being included, which will, in turn, mean a higher cost to ship your pledge separately. More information about pledge manager you will find in the update number 12 here is the direct link to it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/rampart-stylish-and-modular-terrain/posts/2713374
Please note, in the video, we show you the tank with battle damage, the final version won't have any battle damage.
Not so good news: shipping parcels to the USA and Canada...
FedEx, our designated company for shipping to USA and Canada, still has not lifted shipping restrictions. We can ship the only 100kg of parcels a day. Our other project, Dungeons and Laser, is fully delivered to all backers (except the USA and Canada.) If the situation with FedEx doesn't improve, we will still be shipping DnL parcels next month. This may affect shipping the USA and Canadian backers.
All non-US/Canada backers won't be affected by this, meaning that we will be able to start shipping once we have all products in stock.
The shipping date remains unchanged, so far, and we are aiming for the end of July as the shipping start date.
the tank is looking good with some nice interior detail, interesting they're also sculpting a battle damaged version.... wonder if that's just for fun or will also get sprues cut and a retail release
(oh and if anybody knows how to embed KS videos please let me know?)
Our manufacturing department is reporting that the last tools are being in production for Rampart. As you can see in the video below. We are running columns and 1st add-on tool. What left is 2nd add-ons tool and the tank.
Unfortunately, we have to re-cut one of the tools (add-ons 2nd sprue) due to mistakes made by the machinist.
Engineering work on the tank took a bit longer than anticipated but we have made a lot of significant improvements. It's 1st time we are making such a large model and we need to be sure that everything fits and assemble perfectly. After all, it's 100 PARTS!
We also want to give you many customization options, thus, the tank won't have fixed detail and you can put any number of detail pieces on it.
1st Tank out of 3 is designed and it's going onto CNC machines next week.
Shipping.
The situation with FedEx is unchanged. Dungeons and Laser, our other Kickstarter, should be shipped by the 17th of July or earlier if FedEx unlocks USA shipping for Europe for economic parcels.
As we are still in the process of finishing the last tools for Rampart (three tank tools) we are estimating that we will be able to start shipping after the 14th of August(Europe) and 17th August for ROW including the USA.
We hope to improve that date and I'll keep you informing.
Ok, that's it for today. Once we have 1st injection shots I'll be back here to show you!
Thanks!
J@Archon
the sprue at the top, and the 2 tank images are videos so if you want to see them visit the KS page
Last weekend I finally finished designing the Tank tools for CNC. Originally the plan was to have a maximum of 3 sprues, however, it turned out to be 5 tools in total. Here are the CAD screenshots. We have the first two tools on CNC and you can see them on the attached video.
the tank is nearly done, the image shows the parts tooled so far. CNC machine breakdowns are slowing down the finishing on the final mould but it's close
In "better late than never" news, my parcel from Archon arrived today. Sadly since I am moving house, I can't provide pics of the individual sprues but at least I can confirm they are delivering!
I hadn't twigged that basically everyone was getting the free tank. I will be converting that into a counts as Russ assuming it is an appropriate scale.
Got my stuff today and damn that's a lot of freebies. I ordered the Kazumi set + some odd single parts. Also got the tank, the stretch Goals and the Starcide teaser.
I so far only took a look into my Kazumi set and the tank, but both look pretty good in quality. Nice touch with the tank that he does have a designed interior for the crew and driver compartment as well as various hatches that can be kept open. Two details I appreciate specifically are that the front hatch looks rather thick as it should being in the front armor plate and that there seems to be a small round hatch at the floor (!) of the Driver compartment, so that he can get out if things go south.
pretty nice but there are some issues it's worth knowing about before you start
1. the floor plate (7) and internal bulkhead (10) and the pegs on the loading ramp (8) are very snug fits and I found I needed to sand them down at the edges so make sure you dry fit before you go anywhere near the glue
even after sanding I broke off the pegs from the loading ramp trying to open/close it since you still need a tight enough fit that it doesn't flop open all the time so I need to come up with some sort of solution for my next one (make the pegs loose and add the nessesary friction to hold the door closed with several layers of paint?)
the broken pegs are an easy enough thing to fix with a pin vise and some paperclip wire if you want a movable door, otherwise I could have just glued it closed
also while the door in the internal bulkhead can be posed open there's no drivers seat (or control panel) in the cab so you may want to add something (if you keep it closed parts 12 & 13 can go in the bits box)
2. the frontplate (17) and armoured visor (21) are clearly meant to go together like the similar items in the GW rhino kit, but the visor is too thick to bend so I couldn't get the pegs into the holes to make it work so I just clipped the pegs off and glued it down
remember to paint the inside if you want to do so before you glue on the roof (15)
3. the instructions in step 5 don't call out that you need to glue on the turret periscope housing (not sure of the number), but just shows it already on there
4. Step 9 and 10, the tracks, first you don't want to use the big wheel (48) or the light cluster (64) now
I found it easiest to assemble the whole track run by itself creating a 'smooth' surface on the inside of it to get the parts in the right place and only using the side of the hull to make sure the angles are right
Once the whole length of track is together you can fit it onto the hull side
note at the back of the track run there is a marked spot on the hull side to glue one of the three nubs that sticks out of the end of the track, at the front the track isn't attached to the hull side
You'll also need to add the tow rope tile onto the hull, it's shown already there in the instructions
5. step 11 glue the large wheels you didn't use earlier (48 & 70) and all the small wheels (make sure you get them the right way round) onto the main body of the hull
then you can add the left and right track assemblies onto the hull
6. step 12, I think it's easier to add the lights underneath the mudguard sections (66 & 88) rather than have them sitting on the tracks
its bigger than a rhino so I suspect it's fairly similar to a Rus if you ignore the lack of sponsons (you could install your own as it's designed for them... I think there were resin ones on the resin version from their earlier empire of man KS)
I'll do some measurements and comparison shots with a rhino, predator (my conversion) & a plagueburst crawler which I do have when it's fully put together in the next day or two so you can judge for yourself
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145mm long (not including gun barrel 50mm more out front if you do and open rear door 20mm out back if you do,
My two Wolverines arrived and will soon be converted to Warzone proxies. The plasma silo also arrived and its a nice kit that will make for a good pair of engines when placed flat on the table. The only thing that was a bit of a surprise was the stretch goal box, of which I got two. For some reason I was expecting many of the pieces to be larger than they ended up being, particularly the statues and stairs. That said, there are enough bits between my two boxes to finish off my ruined cathedral setup for Warzone.
got mine yesterday. got 2x cathedral boxes, the tank, a stretch goal box, legacy core set extras & a box of funky vampires. All for $99+shipping. I had asked them to change my postal address at the end of March & it arrived safe & sound. I was backer 2349.
ScarletRose wrote: Still haven't gotten any notifications on my pledge shipping.
Admittedly I did add-on 3 more tanks after seeing the previews, so maybe it's taking a little longer since they were the last part of the KS produced.
they're still very limited in how much they can actually send to the USA on a daily basis (both in terms of weight and number of packages) so at least some backers will have a fair bit of waiting to do. Hopefully you'll get yours soon
ScarletRose wrote: Still haven't gotten any notifications on my pledge shipping.
Admittedly I did add-on 3 more tanks after seeing the previews, so maybe it's taking a little longer since they were the last part of the KS produced.
they're still very limited in how much they can actually send to the USA on a daily basis (both in terms of weight and number of packages) so at least some backers will have a fair bit of waiting to do. Hopefully you'll get yours soon
I've got patience, just a touch jealous that everyone else gets to play with the new toys lol.
So Archon say they put in extra pipes and forgot to leave space for the servo skull, so we get it as a 3d printable file and a 10$ voucher.
Dear Backer,
We're shipping pledges out to you on the double at the moment. We're excited to finally see this terrain on tables with large scale forces and smaller skirmishes taking to the field.
Not only that but you might notice a number of additional elements on the sprues that weren't originally planned. These include:
In adding these elements and rushing these out to you, we did make an error and we forgot to cast the bonus survey model. Yes, it's an oversight but we'll put this right by providing you with an stl file and a $10 voucher for our webstore. Expect separate email with those soon.
This voucher can be used for any of our current or future ranges carried in our store!
Again, we're sorry for the error and we're hoping that you'll still enjoy getting the terrain to the table!
While the Servo Skull was a fun bit, I don't mind losing it for the $10 voucher. I need to order a couple more silos thanks to Siygess (great idea !!)
The voucher, skull STL file, and more bits on the sprue are all a good move on Archon's part, AFAIC.
lord_blackfang wrote: I don't suppse the voucher works on Dungeons & Lasers pledge manager?
I'd contact them and ask once you've got it (they're pretty responsive via the contact form on the Archon website), depending on how they're doing the voucher it might well be something they'd have to add manually, but I don't see why they wouldn't
Illumini wrote: ...They should probably have skipped those slashes to the pipes though, they look silly. Filled in, they should be fine I guess.
What ? You don't have Berserkers randomly attacking pipes in your games ? Agreed. A little putty and the slashes will be "fixed". Hopefully they aren't as pronounced on the production pieces as they are on the rendering.
Illumini wrote: ...They should probably have skipped those slashes to the pipes though, they look silly. Filled in, they should be fine I guess.
What ? You don't have Berserkers randomly attacking pipes in your games ? Agreed. A little putty and the slashes will be "fixed". Hopefully they aren't as pronounced on the production pieces as they are on the rendering.
In real life:
I must have forgotten to fill out the survey as I didn't get the $10 oh well I only had a small pledge for extra Kazumi set I needed
tneva82 wrote: Btw if one werb to magnetize(not sure yet) how deep magnets you would go for?
from the FAQ
What magnets will work on the Rampart terrain features?
We recommend magnets for the walls 5x3mm (3/16" by 1/8") and 5x5mm (3/16" by 3/16") for columns, although our test on the prototype was successful with 5x3mm magnets in walls and columns.
I know i filled out the survey, and no voucher yet so you might get one yet DaveC,
I suspect they may not send them out until they're finished with the physical pledges simply because they're probably busy packing and working on all the dungeons and lasers stuff
I look forward to seeing your finished Kazumi project so i can steal your ideas (mine got put together into wall sections then i stalled over what i wanted to glue and what i wanted to be able to take apart again)
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I look forward to seeing your finished Kazumi project so i can steal your ideas (mine got put together into wall sections then i stalled over what i wanted to glue and what i wanted to be able to take apart again)
It's way down my list of projects at the moment so I'm not sure when I'll get back to it but I did try the toppers on one of the buildings this morning. They were always clear the toppers would not be the full width including columns so I had to make some columns to build out the walls. I found 15mm x 15mm timber batons in my local DIY store that does the job. Cut to size, carve brick effect into the wood, glue on some plastic pieces job done. I even saved the peg I clipped from the bottom of the icon to stick on the side just for a bit of extra detailing.
Nice work DaveC, those column sections finish of the top nicely
todays update for those that late backed and don't get it from KS
Basically all of the Europe packages have been already delivered or being shipped today. Now we start with the slower area - the USA and Canada. As our partner, FedEX is limiting us to 100KGs of shipments per day outside of Europe due to the COVID19 situation, we are shipping approximately 60 pledges per day. According to my shipping department, we have 1600 pledges left to be shipped. It will take about a month to finish. We had shipped a few pledges overseas already, but mass delivery starts now.
Our Australia fans are going in one separate batch next week (approximately 120 pledges)
We will keep you updated with non-Europe shipping progress in future updates. Only thing that slows us down is shipping cap by FedEx, all of the product is manufactured and just waiting in the boxes to be shipped
I received mine today, and am very impressed. Rampart late updates introduced me to Dungeons and Lasers which I bought a lot of in August with no waiting but as a quasi KS backer. Then I did alarge standard backing for Dungeons and Lasers II.
Now that I have some Rampart and have had a good look at it I want more. The 'late pledge' function on Kickstarter wasn't working for the last quarters but is now reactivated, similar to how the Dungeons and Lasers late backer function was reinstated after the campaign delivery stage. So I can get some more sets, and you can too. At $49 for a core set full stretchgoals some bonus minis and an AFV is crazy good and you can do multiple basic pledges.
My initial pledge was a Mass Battle (4 set) and a Basic (1 set), I might buy two more basic sets. I have three Cathedral sets and one each of the others. I was unsure about Cobalt set but decided to get one anyway, I dont like the windows on it otherwise it is OK. Kasumi does work as a single set as it has fourteen intact long wall sections, and sixteen ruined wall sections, more than enough for a basic ruin for an RPG, or window dressing for a battle in Lustria, but I like it so much I want to double up. As expected the Cathedral set is the big draw, I got three sets to provide enough ruins for an urban 40K board or a 'Temple of Elemental Evil' type scenario. Three sets might actually be enough for the surface section of the classic Temple' scenario.
Going to buy a Cathedral basic set for a friend as a present, he needs more terrain for 40K and I think he will love it, especially the stretchgoals Though I am keeping the tank box. And a second Kasumi set for myself, though I technically don't need it, because it will feed my plastic crack habit.
Just got the rest of my pledge yesterday, haven’t had time to go through it yet, but I’m quite happy so far.
If it will work, this is a quick video I did of my Kazumi sets I got back in February. They’ve since been painted. It’s an RPG set + wargame pledge set if you’re wondering.
Got my triple Cobalt today. Everything has retail level packaging this time so it takes up a lot more space than the classic "crate of sprues" approach but it's good quality boxes so I like it.
Only gripe so far is that Cobalt box art shows doors on the renders but there are no short doors anywhere and just a single tall door in the stretch goal set.
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Stormonu wrote: Just got the rest of my pledge yesterday, haven’t had time to go through it yet, but I’m quite happy so far.
If it will work, this is a quick video I did of my Kazumi sets I got back in February. They’ve since been painted. It’s an RPG set + wargame pledge set if you’re wondering.
Stormonu wrote: Just got the rest of my pledge yesterday, haven’t had time to go through it yet, but I’m quite happy so far.
If it will work, this is a quick video I did of my Kazumi sets I got back in February. They’ve since been painted. It’s an RPG set + wargame pledge set if you’re wondering.
Got mine today too. If anyone wonders about compatibility with GW sector imperialis, the tall walls are pretty much exactly the same size. However, the columns do not work the same, so while they will look good beside each other, it might be hard to combine, at least at the same level. Adding GW walls on top of these should work out allright.
Stormonu - what do you mean with wargame pledge? One additional box?
tneva82 wrote: How much would you say 2 sets cover for 6'x4' board? Aka would board be sparse looking with that?
Influences do i get more or not
Ok. Fair question.
Take a look at the Kickstarter homepage, in particular the coverage given by pledge size. Archon were helpful and insightful enough to include this.
Now the scaling is in inches despite Poland being a metric society and is assumed to be broadly square, so 22", 35", 41" and 48" coverage respectively for one to four boxsets. How tall you want or need ruins will effect this, also you have to think about spacing. Now lets look at purpose. For a wargaming 6'x4' four sets will produce dense coverage for two thirds of the board, basically each 2'x2' tile can get dense single storey cover from one core set. For urban infantry battles, or large are skirmish like Necromunda you might need as many as eight sets for tall and dense fighting in ruins for a 4'x4' and reasonable coverage with half that. For a 6'x4' Warhammer battlefield you will want room for ranked units or tanks and large monsters or titans. I have no doubt two core sets will provide enough scatter for a 6'x4' with the scatter being major feature of the board. Even a single set will help break up a 6'x4' provide objectives from the stretchgoals and some limited cover to break LOS and protect a portion of the units on the field. This might be all you need. On the other hand having a dense double height ruin covering the area of approx one 2'x2' tile, not necessarily all in the same place, and one further set for scatter terrain will yield enough blocking elements to conceal a proportion of the large monsters or vehicles and more of the infantry. I think three sets of one core set type is a sweet spot for wargaming a 6'x4' board, it is what I bought. If you cant afford that, want more open battlefield or want to mix with different terrain such as woods or hills etc you could get away with less and still use Rampart as the one stop fix for making effective battlefield terrain. If you buy for the densest use you think you will need and for the largest table space related to that game space then you will be on the right track.
However that being said if you want Cities of Death, or an RPG narrative with a temple complex, or want city blocks that you can hide titans behind your own considerations might depart from the above. In truth there is no actual answer. I bought three Cathedral sets for a catch all, and one of each of the others for features or RPG games. I am strongly considering buying more while it is at backers prices. For $49 USD one core set, one stretchgoals and some minis on the side is an insane deal, and its best to buy multiples of that frankly. Though the stretchgoal boxes are only currently $10 so if you like the other rewards of larger spends it might be good idea to get that. I will likely end up with more than I need, but at the price I wont regret that.
Hope this helps, and while not conclusive does provide a fairly comprehensive answer to your rather open question.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Honestly I feel like I've overdone it with the stretch goal sets (11)
Maybe, maybe not. There are items in the set you might like to spam. If you do dioramas or want repeating decorations you might need these. Those items you dont need multiples of become giveaways to hobbyists in your community, or junk to sell on auction depending on how you do.
- Avenues of statues, check. Though as total even number would make sense.
- Meaningful gifts for gamers, check. They only cost $10 each yet have contents will beyond that pricepoint.
- Enough ceiling sections to be worth a damn, check. Maybe not eleven sets but good enough. Besides the ceilings in the cathedral set are poor, I much prefer the industrial ones for a 'Cities of Death' feel, and would use plasticard for an actual model cathedral.
- Enough toppers to not need a topper set, check. A pack of toppers costs $3 for five, cost you $50 but with all the extra you get.
I got multiple boxes of Dungeons and Lasers stretchgoals. Admittedly only four so far, but I do wonder if I want more. I currently have three Rampart strtchgoal boxes and definitely do want more, though in both cases wont total to eleven. Yep its pretty mad, but a number of gamers spammed the Pegasus hobbies gothic building sets to make tall city block terrain, and that product is in my opinion inferior to this one. Yes I can see people buying 30 or more core sets and building ruins so big titans can prowl within. That's $1500, plus postage, but some Titan owners will be happy to spend that. So eleven stretchgoals is not a lot to those lost to the depths of the hobby. You are definitely dignosable as having a plastic crack "problem"; though I am not stopping, are you?
Just as an FYI, the video from above is essentially 6 sets on a 3 ft. X 3 ft. mat (91 cm X 91 cm). You could definitely do some knight-level combats on the setup I had - most of the structures were two stories and the two big buildings were 4 and 5 stories respectively.
I also agree that the ceilings are rather poor (especially corners - the pegs being on the end columns instead of being able to do supports in the middle of the wall causes issues) and cardboard/plasticard would be better where you want multilevel areas.
Could not resist adding another RPG pledge after getting all the walls clipped off my original pledge. Great value for 185$ including shipping. One of very few kickstarters where instead of the kickstarter hangover, I want more immediately.
40k Reichstag coming up as soon as I get my hands on some plastic cement.
Illumini wrote: Could not resist adding another RPG pledge after getting all the walls clipped off my original pledge. Great value for 185$ including shipping.
40k Reichstag coming up as soon as I get my hands on some plastic cement.
You bought solidified RPG sets? What do you get in them please.
One of very few kickstarters where instead of the kickstarter hangover, I want more immediately.
Though if you don't answer I will find out soon enough hopefully. I ordered three more sets today, all RPG.
I didnt get the RPG set because I get two more stretchgoals and tanks this way, in lieu of a plasma silo and two Core set extras, and -$2.
I added a plasma silo anyway because I 'only' have two, and a second Apse and some stairs.
Stormonu wrote: Just as an FYI, the video from above is essentially 6 sets on a 3 ft. X 3 ft. mat (91 cm X 91 cm). You could definitely do some knight-level combats on the setup I had - most of the structures were two stories and the two big buildings were 4 and 5 stories respectively.
Nice to know. I counted the pyramids to get to six boxsets, but wasnt sure because you might have bought legacy stretchgoals.
I also agree that the ceilings are rather poor (especially corners - the pegs being on the end columns instead of being able to do supports in the middle of the wall causes issues) and cardboard/plasticard would be better where you want multilevel areas.
The Kazumi ceilings are almost totally useless, there are no half section walls. Pity because I bought an extra set. The Cathedral ceilings are fugly, but the Cobalt ceilings are OK. Definitely will be using plasticard for roofing, it looks great for Kazumi anyway. I will use stock Kazumi ceilings upside down for medieval cathedral, and cobalt ones for 40K cities of death cathedral. My Cobalt sets will be blended into my admech stuff.
What I am learning is that the modularity is not really important except for deciding verticals. This isnt lego, there isnt a lot of true variety in the kits that is sacrificed by gluing them, and gluing means I can more readily customise and add stuff.
Really like what Dave C has done. Will most likely do the same.
So you might want more than 4 of D&L1 stretch goals? I wasn't on D&L1 so I don't have any yet. They seem great on their own but D&L2 SG are almost double the content for the same $20 so I don't know how many of the old ones I want.
So you might want more than 4 of D&L1 stretch goals? I wasn't on D&L1 so I don't have any yet. They seem great on their own but D&L2 SG are almost double the content for the same $20 so I don't know how many of the old ones I want.
They are very good and available now. Yes the D&L II stretchgoals are even better but they are different.
For example I bought One 'Legacy Stetchgoals box' i.e the stretchgoals from Dungeons and Lasers I. It is inferior but it was worth getting one, at least until I found the best sprue was included in the Kazumi set. Nevertheless it included some nice statues I didnt get elsewhere and some Aztec gem plinths not in the Kazumi box. Very thin in total compared to Rampart II strechgoals but well worth having for the price point anyway.
D&L was a later product and as the campaigns grew as Archon recovered some rep post Prodos they gbot more backers and the boxes got better and better. Yes the D&L II stretchgoals are awesome but we wont see them until next year and the D&L 1 stretchgoals have some very useful pieces, especially if you buy more thna one set. Highlights to me are the cryopods, very similar to the ones on the Sulaco, you get one per set. I could take as many of these as I can get. You get a pair of classic wooden chests per set, they are solid one piece casts but fairly good, there is also a metal chest. Now chests are not uncommon but these are no nonsense sculpts with reasonable detail. There are spiked floor grates, a very presentable stone spiral stair, an automatic sentry turret, a modern computer locked chest, a satanic altar with pentagram and candles, various statues, a gnarly dead tree, a coffin and lid, a throne (very good detail), four wooden trap levers, consoles, a pillory and some alien eggs.
There is more to that as seen below but sculpt and mold quality varies. I mentioned above the best features
D&L II does have its own highlights, and yes in general that set is better. But not quite. The stretchgoals for D&L I do include a tank, but only one per pledge extra stretchgoal boxes do not include the tank. It is a very nice tank.
If you buy multiple single core set pledges you will get one free stretchgoal with each as each is a seperate pledge, and that will also get you one tank. The extras you get for taking double or triple sets are not worth the extra main strechgoal boxes in my opinion, especially when these each come with a very nice not-Chimera. The tank is costed at $30 seperately, but the other minor add ons you would otherwise get are much cheaper. In fact with D&L buying larger sets only gets you one two extra rooms. Three for the single, seven for the sdouble set and eleven for the triple. Room sets are costed at $20 each but in my opinion are worth less than the stretchgoal boxes, they are certainly smaller. And these come with a free tank and also an animal companion boxset.
Now the animals are of rather dubious value, you either like them or hate them. I find them too Disneyesque, but some could be useful. The armoured bear is certainly useful as are the mimics, some other animals could be used as is, or converted for more sensible druid companions or cyber creatures. They are too 'cute;' for psyber ravens or Arbites cybermastiffs, but not beyond the bounds of skilled conversion.
This tank has five sprues and is chock full of detail. Very nice kit you would normally have to pay a fair whack for. My only complaints are that the stowage is molded onto the armour panels so there is less modularity than it might appear as it is difficult to customise stowage location and not including a piece of stowage means not including the armour plate under it. That did not make sense frankly. My second complaint is that despite having five sprues of detail including interiors there is no alternate weapon mount. Though for 40K you can easily import other weapons.
I am tempted to use these turrets for Russ turrets as the cannon is offset so that the breach is not in line with the commanders hatch and gettign alt Chimer turrets for the Wolverine itself. The kit is transparently an infantry AFV and not a tank.
The best price is the vending machine mimic, just don't glue in the tongue and its a normal smashed up vending machine. This is a very useful piece of terrain, it can be placed somewhere to identify a public space and is viable as external or interior furniture, it is mobile with an appropriate strength check and provide hard cover in a firefight. Nicely they have intact versions in D&L 2 stretchgoals, purported as mimics but with this piece I will be using it as a real vending machine for games. All in all this boxset is a waste, but it is free, just don't pony out for any, they are not worth the money Archon charges as an extra.
Ha ha I've been doing similar calculations. Rooms are meh, yea, they are $20 but only have 1/4 the material of a $40 core set. But I'm not getting any corridors anyway, just the dragons and a bunch of SG.
Room $20 = 3 Long wall, 6 Short Wall, 3 Long Floor, 3 Short Floor, 3 Doors.
Core $40 = 14 Long Wall, 27 Short Wall, 12 Long Floor, 18 Short Floor, 7 Doors
So by price: 6/14, 12/27, 6/12, 6/18 and 6/7.
Its roughly half value. Nevertheless I dont think the pricing is unfair, you get quite a bit for the price even for the rooms.
I have enough Core sets that I will be buying multiple $99 Dungeon Master pledges with rooms only. Last time I bought four Dungeon Master pledges for D&L1. Half fantasy, half SF. When I cut them out each side almost completely filled a shoe box neatly stacked and weigh quite a bit.
I didnt need too many of the D&L1 rooms, though I didnt buy them evenly, max three of any type.
The D&L2 rooms have content I want to spam. Frankly I expected the mines set to be an alternative core and was disappointed that it as not. You dont have mine rooms, you have mine complexes.
I am toying whether to buy three Dungeon Masters (15 rooms) or four (20 rooms/?18 rooms +1 fantasy core?).
Let us work it out I like the new room sets, think they are an improvement on what came before; and will probably want five Dwarven Mines, and three of each of the other new ones. So I could add a sixth mine set or drop one down to two, likely Temple and buy an extra Fantasy core,
Hmm. This means I wont buy four now, but I might end up coming back for more.
Which dragons do I want? That was easy as I had mixed reactions to them.
Thall is a must have, want one for my Vampire Counts army.
Draculus is a decent black dragon though I dont like the armoured wing roots very much.
Freyr is a decent blue, or maybe white dragon if I remove the lightning.
Durkar is so-so, if I get a fourth set I will choose him.
I like Marduk but she is way too small for Tiamat, will stick with the plan to pick up Ma'al Drakaar instead.
Schmargomnrog is a good sculpt but I am not too keen on lava dragons and he is only availalbe at special higher price.
The Xenodragon is also good, but I have no need of one.
Do I need multiple free Chinese dragons, not really but the excess will make good gifts.
Checkingv the p[ledge manager, there are not many Stretchgoals I need more than three of. More basic furniture would be nice. Functional doors will be my big additional spend, though if I am crazy enough I might buy a Dragon Pledge Upgrade and get at least one of each dragon, except Schmargonrog.
Yeah I thought the mine would be a core set too. But luckily I don't need corridors. I like all the dragons except the lightning one with its flying pose the same as GW's elf dragon.
Illumini wrote: Could not resist adding another RPG pledge after getting all the walls clipped off my original pledge. Great value for 185$ including shipping.
40k Reichstag coming up as soon as I get my hands on some plastic cement.
You bought solidified RPG sets? What do you get in them please.
Yes. It was not what I expected. They are just the normal sets, including the ruined walls, with one additional tall wall and two low walls per set. So fewer solid walls than the description lead me to believe, but on the other hand, a ton more ruins than expected. Practically, there seems to be no reason to not go for RPG pledge.
Well I got three single sets and asked for them to be RPG. I will see if that works.
If I get extra sprues while maintaining the advantage of single sets so much the better.
The second order has been accepted and paid for, but I don't know when it will arrive. For Dungeons and Lasers 1 I made two late pledges in August and they were in effect mail orders, paid and shipped almost immediately, but this was in the lull before Rampart campaign completion and with warehouse staff on standby with little to do.
Anyone got recommendations on a source for flooring for the kits. I will be going with plasticard. But would like some advice on thickness from those in the know, plus if there is a relevant plasticard 101 I need to be aware of. I like the square grid plasticard I am seeing crop up.
I like plasticard with cork underneath to get the durability and patterns of plasticard, with a concrete like texture and realistic thickness. Add I beams and stick some clipped paper clips into the cork for additional realism for ruins
The long columns indentations on the pieces can accept two short columns. This also allows some variety of the damage to the double height pieces.
That being said, your box may have been mispacked. The KS page has a component count so you can tally off what you got.
I wonder if Archon would make the Wolverine alt-weapon loadouts from the resin kit available as STLs? Hopefully they would fit without requiring too much modification
it appeared initially as a resin vehicle in the empire of men KS, and there were a bunch of different load outs on for the hull as well as the gun
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Archon might be persuaded to make some more resin bits for sale now even though doing them in plastic is probably not viable outside another KS
Agreed, there were a few bits I wouldn't mind getting but I have never seen them, not even on ebay. However, it looks like that 'faction' has been rolled into Starcide, so who knows. Maybe they will shoot for a hard plastic version of the other Empire of Men models when Starcide is more of a thing.
I thought i'd drop what I plan to do with my Kazumi stuff on here too,
While the temptation to build a huge ziggurat was strong it's hard to 'ruin' one, especially with the bits you get, and it's kind of limited to sitting in the middle of the board annoying everybody so I had to decide on what sort of buildings I wanted
I went for this, with a male & female or light & dark side (the small statues from the scatter terrain are the right size to pair with the toppers and I could do with some more, and the roofs are 5mm foamed pvc sheet as suggested by DaveC (nice one). I could carve in 'stones' but think they'll work well without it too
and here is the first ruined version, I'll glue some of it but leave the levels separate so I can have them as 2 single story buildings if I want to (the broken floor need work so they're not just straight lines)
and I remember seeing some posting about the 'roots' being useless (elsewhere not here), I think they're pretty cool, you'll need trim them to fit depending on where you put them but I think they work well.
Unsure about gluing in the decorative plugs on the outside, they'll make it look much better but make it a lot harder to store in a sticky out to get broken or rub the paint off sort of way
Looks good Orlando I might steal that design as I still have a lot of intact panels left. Yeah the Ziggurat is a tricky one and is a dominating piece, I need to build a smaller back corner to better define the shape of mine. Carving the paved effect is lot of work but I think it's worth it.
You can fill the holes with the regular plugs cut in half to make them go further if you have enough spare or use the decorative plugs glue them in then clip off the icon and file it flat.
Projects for another day currently building a Warcry Catacombs board from the D&L stuff which works surprisingly well with only a few mods needed but I need to see final layouts and how doors are dealt with before I finish it.
Seems like they are very limited in getting international shipments out due to weight restrictions (I think they cited 100kg/day which is not much for lots of plastic and packaging). I am still stuck waiting on shipment too but it is what it is.
Is this stuff available anywhere? I just looked and all I could find was some sort of "late pledge" on a not-Kickstarter site. Will it be available through retail or anything?
Edit: also super vague on exactly what you're getting in each "late pledge", unless I'm overlooking some information somewhere.
Mr. Grey wrote: Is this stuff available anywhere? I just looked and all I could find was some sort of "late pledge" on a not-Kickstarter site. Will it be available through retail or anything?
Edit: also super vague on exactly what you're getting in each "late pledge", unless I'm overlooking some information somewhere.
Last I looked, even on Archon's website it directed you to late pledge on Gamefound as their ordering system. I don't think they're doing retail-style orders. Don't know why, possibly having something to do with them being based in Poland, and this way works easier/better for them.
Basically, if you want something, you pick what you want in Gamefound as a "pledge".
Mr. Grey wrote: Is this stuff available anywhere? I just looked and all I could find was some sort of "late pledge" on a not-Kickstarter site. Will it be available through retail or anything?
Edit: also super vague on exactly what you're getting in each "late pledge", unless I'm overlooking some information somewhere.
Last I looked, even on Archon's website it directed you to late pledge on Gamefound as their ordering system. I don't think they're doing retail-style orders. Don't know why, possibly having something to do with them being based in Poland, and this way works easier/better for them.
Basically, if you want something, you pick what you want in Gamefound as a "pledge".
Ah that's awkward and a bit weird. Would much prefer an actual online store of some sort, honestly. Looks like interesting terrain otherwise.
It works well though, check the kickstarter page for what you get in the pledge and order through gamefound. I got one late pledge after a few weeks, and have ordered another. Quite long delivery time, but nothing compared to kickstarting something from scratch
Archon is still shipping out Rampart 2 and Chronicle X (which they're late on because the previous run of paper components from China was unacceptable or something) to backers. They finished up shipping D&L3 Legacy.
Speculation! I know Archon's boardgames have appeared in traditional retail channels, but dunno about their terrain and miniatures. They may also be one of the few creators who actually gets backers KS rewards before stores!
9 Days Ago : "@corwin. No, there's no further rapid delivery being done as Archon are concentrating on getting Rampart 2 and Chronicle x out the door."
@Mr. Grey, if you have an FLGS, you might want to check with them to see if they can this terrain. They might have more options available to them we don't know about.
(like I don't have a load of other things to work on!) in for $1 and I'll decide in the 
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