How do!

Hopefully a fun thread, in which we can mildly embarrass ourselves over things that, as the title says, irrationally irritate us during a game.

Nothing rational here, like an opponent’s dubious grasp of personal hygiene, or being the sort to quibble every last possible detail, or being otherwise Clearly Obnoxious.

My first offering? And I’m sorry for using a term which for Dakkanauts of a certain vintage might consider questionable….Limp Wristed Dice Rolling. Nothing to do with anyone’s bedroom preferences or sad, lazy, usually wildly inaccurate negative stereotypes. But where someone just doesn’t roll their dice with any feeling or gusto.

Just, pile them on the palm, give a desultory shoogle, before dropping them onto the board from a low height. Literal Limp Wrist. Not metaphorical.

Now I don’t expect or require someone to cannonball their dice, or fling them without regard of where they might end up. There is a balance to this as there is in all things. But that….almost disinterested, I’m kinda sure this is some kind of dice manipulation thing but can’t prove it and feel frankly silly considering it rolling just really, really irritates me.

Roll them like you love them, I guess. Like they need a bit of a run up to those lovely sixes.

This is something that bothers me, from me.

I have played various GW games since the late 80's. It is very common for me to get rules mixed up between games and editions of games. I think something is supposed to work like X, but not anymore..... and it hasn't worked that way since before the start of the new Millenia. Woops!

Over explaining what everything does all the time. Just do the thing, tell me youre doing it with foot it's and if I need more I'll ask for it. I do not require a 10 minute breakdown of the strats and orders on your unit of kasrkin, just tell me how many wounds/saves.

I will share with you the penultimate villian (The ultimate villian is the angry parent who is putting unnecessary pressure on his child to win at a game).

The MultiTasker!

I'm sure this phone call is super important, and you totally need to build another army, and yes, you need to put in an order for lunch...

But could you maybe deal with some of this after our game?

I really enjoy saying, "It's your go," to you about 5 times before you respond with, "Oh, is it my turn?"

I'm not asking for much, just a little attention.

> My first offering? And I’m sorry for using a term which for Dakkanauts of a certain vintage might consider questionable….Limp Wristed Dice Rolling. Nothing to do with anyone’s bedroom preferences or sad, lazy, usually wildly inaccurate negative stereotypes. But where someone just doesn’t roll their dice with any feeling or gusto.

Reminds me of boardgamers who play with super-casuals whose only exposure to dice is Monopoly and will throw dice into the middle of the board, regardless of what you say to them. Not good for Settlers of Catan!

My irritation is that guy who thinks "it's a dumb rule" and keeps saying that all afternoon as you're playing games.

I'm torn between old foggies who think rules from 2003 are still relevant and money grubbing suits who change the rules every two years.

 Easy E wrote:
This is something that bothers me, from me.

I have played various GW games since the late 80's. It is very common for me to get rules mixed up between games and editions of games. I think something is supposed to work like X, but not anymore..... and it hasn't worked that way since before the start of the new Millenia. Woops!

I feel ya.. I do it with the various editions of D&D.. running a 5th ed game now, and still asking what the players THAC0 is..

Mine is the opponent who is so totally glued to whatever is happening on his phone that I wanna smack the phone out of his hand. Not making a call, or ordering lunch, but playing a game whilst playing a game, if that makes sense.

When a table gets done with their game and proceeds to have an in-depth after action report style conversation as if they were a podcast on high level competition... Loudly...

Maybe if it were conversation level volume I wouldn't notice or care.
But when the voices are pitched to carry in the game room it is especially irritating.

The guy who comes to a game an hour late and then spends another hour making a roster.

Is this peeve actually irrational tho? I lost 2 hours of my life waiting.

Oh yes, I don't mind playing at a leaisurely pace but please, don't spend 10 minutes thinking about a minor move that changes nothing.

I actually borrowed the idea of chess clocks from Warmachine tournaments to home games, because I was really fed up with my time being held hostage by a person who disrespects my time, comes totally unprepared and then takes forever to do anything. The clock at least lets them see for themselves - yes, it's not just my impression, you ARE taking three times the time I am taking to make the same amount of moves.

In particular I hate it when we play in a bigger group and another pair of players have already finished their game and are ready to switch opponents, but we are on Turn 2.

(tbh I wouldn't call this irritation irrational, though )

My entry for this is:

When I'm reading someone's list here/on-line & for every unit they list ALL the weapons the unit has, not just the ones that need to be noted because a choice had to be made.
Some even list it per model. Even for models that have no options.

Is that a default output thing from some of the list-building software? Seems a bit wasteful/pointless.

 Dysartes wrote:
Is that a default output thing from some of the list-building software? Seems a bit wasteful/pointless.

Probably.
But I know I've seen people do it long hand as the formats don't match any list builders I'm familiar with.

Part of me, a very cynical part I don’t mind admitting, wonders if perhaps such a detailed list may be the result of running into a rules lawyer previously?

I can just imagine the funk, and the whiny, reedy voice insisting that it doesn’t matter what your codex says, if it’s not declared on your army list, it’s not in the army actually

I did say it was a very cynical part of me.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm torn between old foggies who think rules from 2003 are still relevant and money grubbing suits who change the rules every two years.

C’mon, we all know that if it happened after Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness it doesn’t count (rules and lore)!

The guy who agrees to meet up for a game but sees another game on the night he wants to join, so tries to play both at the same time. Those who write their list after turning up. People who turn up to tournaments that ask for a hard copy list and just show you their phone. People who use model they haven’t finished putting together. People who different dice for when rolling high and then low….


You know what? People. Just….. people.

Mis-matching Dice. Proper irrational.

Not bothered with using different colours for batch rolling. That makes sense.

But when it’s all different colours, and sizes? It just really annoys me.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
People who use model they haven’t finished putting together.

I think I'd give people a pass on this - but once per model. I get that they might be excited to try it out, but finish putting it together before a second game, OK?

Mine's not really a gaming one, more a building one. People who buy expensive limited-edition models and make a dog's breakfast of putting them together or a 4yr olds painting standard

I hoard my Limited Editions. Fresh in shrink wrap.

I'm not a patriot or nationalist or anything, but a bit of an inconsequential language purist.
The rule is called "Verletzungen ignorieren", go away with your "Feel no pain" we don't make a video for the internetz here! It gets totally irrational when I start translating OPR rules midgame that don't actually have any translations, yet.
I'll also go on to explain how the translation of my units changed with every edition whenever I use them. Did you know the Shokk attack gun was called Snotzogga in german 3rd to 6th and then GW changed it to Rotzschokka in 9th? Shocking, right? :O

On a somewhat related note I still know all the lotr ranges in cm and it's a shame they changed it to inch that nobody outside this nerd community knows or understands in germany.

MarkNorfolk wrote:


You know what? People. Just….. people.

Yeah, Solo-play seems better and better to me every year I get older.

Sometimes, when I return from gaming and my family asks how it went I say; "Sometimes, the worst thing about being a nerd, is being around other nerds." However, see my post above on why I get grumpy sometimes and am not always my best self when it comes to gaming.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

I'll also go on to explain how the translation of my units changed with every edition whenever I use them. Did you know the Shokk attack gun was called Snotzogga in german 3rd to 6th and then GW changed it to Rotzschokka in 9th? Shocking, right? :O

For those of us who don't speak German, which one is linguisticly correct? Or most correct?

ccs wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

I'll also go on to explain how the translation of my units changed with every edition whenever I use them. Did you know the Shokk attack gun was called Snotzogga in german 3rd to 6th and then GW changed it to Rotzschokka in 9th? Shocking, right? :O

For those of us who don't speak German, which one is linguisticly correct? Or most correct?

Well, they both have little to do with the english name and are made up words. "Rotz" is the german word for snot (they also introduced "Rotzling" in 10th while leaving Snotling untranslated until then), and "zogga" is not actually a word, so the newer is probably closer to the original and more descriptive. The older one is funnier and the more established one after 30 years.
In any case it's nice they didn't make a literal translation ("Schockangriffskanone") but left it with a fun orkish name.

My irrational irritation is that nobody pronounces made-up Warhammer words correctly, except me.

Mostly due to spending most of my teenage years reading them, but not hearing anyone else say them. And also being Australian.

I will grudgingly accept your strange pronunciation of Tzeentch as "Zench" instead of the appropriately eldritch Tuh-zeen-titch.

I can maybe allow "SlaNEESH" instead of the properly lascivious SLAH-nesh.

I will survive your choice to say "Abba-don" instead of Ah-BAD-don.

I suppose I can admit that calling the city that was hit by a big rock "Mord-hiym" is probably more accurate than Mord-heem.

But the one true pronunciation of Tyranid is Ti-RAN-id, and the 99% of you who say either "TIRRA-nid" or "TIE-ranid" are guilty of the utmost heresy. Let alone the horror of shortening it to "Nids" as if they're an infestation of head lice.

Tyranids are alien dinosaurs. Not bugs, alien dinosaurs. Therefore it's pronounced the same way as 'tyrannosaur', not 'tyranny'. Emphasis on the second syllable.

I will die like a Guardsman on this hill.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mis-matching Dice. Proper irrational.

Not bothered with using different colours for batch rolling. That makes sense.

But when it’s all different colours, and sizes? It just really annoys me.

But... I play Tzeentch! It's fluffy!

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mis-matching Dice. Proper irrational.

Not bothered with using different colours for batch rolling. That makes sense.

But when it’s all different colours, and sizes? It just really annoys me.

But... I play Tzeentch! It's fluffy!

So, it's all a part of your master plan?

My typical response to those who don't love my dice selection is to say, "Wanna buy me some new dice?"

> It is very common for me to get rules mixed up between games and editions of games.

Reminds me of how LOS rules work DIFFERENTLY across different boardgames. LOS between units, particularly when CORNERS are around.

Main problem is squares are conventional (which also affects movement, but not as much) in boardgames.

As for solo play, I'm certainly finding it more convenient. You can start a game when you want, and pause for as long as you want (eg. to paint up some mini's you need to play). Also, solo lets you play more players than you'd normally have, plus mess about with variants. I'm thinking of playing seven players in this four player game...

There's one.
The word 'mini's' with an apostraphe is probably correct. It is just the plural of the shortening of 'miniatures'.
It just looks wrong.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mis-matching Dice. Proper irrational.

Not bothered with using different colours for batch rolling. That makes sense.

But when it’s all different colours, and sizes? It just really annoys me.

But... I play Tzeentch! It's fluffy!

I just get a bizarre sense my opponent is up to something. Same as the soft rolling of dice in my first offering.

I think it becomes slightly more rational when they’re non-standard D6. For instance, dice with a symbol replacing either the 1 or the 6. Or some having numbers instead of dots. I mean it’s hardly turning reading your score into rocket science, but it is adding additional challenges to knowing what’s what.

But, it’s a less rational thing than being super suspicious when an opponent has specific dice for Ld test type checks. It might well be superstition on their behalf and fair enough. But it’ll always be in the back of my mind that “oh, so those are the one’s loaded for a low roll, yeah?”

Wait, I think I’ve just twigged what makes my soft rolling distaste actually rational. The player that comes to mind with it. Not much fun to engage with. And worse than soft rolling, as soon as the dice hit the table, he’d be gathering up “successes”. Super quickly. So quickly he couldn’t possibly have had time to see what was what.

Which of course, is why you should pick out your failures, not your successes.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Which of course, is why you should pick out your failures, not your successes.

Isn't this a rule in most games?

....... another irksome gamer. The player who just stops.

So... is it my turn? Did your batteries run down? What's going on?

Oh, you just needed to stare blankly at the board for 3 minutes while attempting to telepathically connect with me and tell me that you are done with your turn.

Thanks Professor X. I guess I'll go then.

Oh? You're not done? OK. I'll wait, again.

2 minutes later

Okay, I'm going to assume your total lack of movement and silence is an indication that I should start my turn.

Re. The OP here, the first (and only) time I have ever seen two players nearly come to blows over a game was due to the way one of the guys was rolling dice. Deciding game in what was meant to be a fun/narrative event, the one player was cupping the dice in his hand and just almost softly placing them on the tabletop.

I don't think its possible to cheat in this way (certainly in our sphere of games players) but you wouldn't get away with doing it in a casino, and I think it was just happenstance that almost every dice roll was exactly what he needed. What started as good natured comments soon turned confrontational, the one player then became stubborn and kept doing it. In the end it started getting confrontational and the TO had to step in, brought along a dice tray for him to use (think the argument had been he didn't want a pile of dice rolling across the terrain each time).

I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

The Newman wrote:
I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

I've seen symbols on the 1s and the 6s. Sometimes its difficult to keep track of my opponents' dice.

I remember one game vs a Leman Russ that could not fail a save. It felt like my opponent could only roll a 6. Never could prove wrongdoing, but just felt off.

The Newman wrote:
I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

Agreed. If you MUST use metal dice or oversized dice, use a dice tray. Don't roll those boulders at my 3rd edition models, please. I take care of my stuff.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

I've seen symbols on the 1s and the 6s. Sometimes its difficult to keep track of my opponents' dice.

I remember one game vs a Leman Russ that could not fail a save. It felt like my opponent could only roll a 6. Never could prove wrongdoing, but just felt off.

I've seen a dice set with fancy symbols on all six facings. Those things were impossible to read from across the table

On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

Finally a topic worth writing in.

I play very casually maybe 6 games a year and I always tell this to my opponents. There's something deeply annoying in people who keep blah blah blahing about the rules and try to find errors every my turn and after I lose zero to sixty I realize they didn't remind me of the rules that would've benefit me.

Also people who don't seem to have any life besides wargaming. People who never even try to paint their miniatures. People who think being competitive means trying to smash someone who comes to play beerhammer when he gets few hours free from family.

I've been in the hobby for 30 years, and even after all this time, GW flight bases still only come in two flavors.... Unassembled and Broken. You would think they could have address this by now.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

My first offering? And I’m sorry for using a term which for Dakkanauts of a certain vintage might consider questionable….Limp Wristed Dice Rolling. Nothing to do with anyone’s bedroom preferences or sad, lazy, usually wildly inaccurate negative stereotypes. But where someone just doesn’t roll their dice with any feeling or gusto.

Just, pile them on the palm, give a desultory shoogle, before dropping them onto the board from a low height. Literal Limp Wrist. Not metaphorical.

This one gets me because, way back when I was still playing actively, there was a fellow regular that I got a number of games against, and while we were friendly enough, just there was so much about them that got me, and this dice rolling was one of them.

and the thing is, this person did it this way because they had learned a sort of "technique" whereby they rolled really damn well doing this crap. Combine that with being a nerdy know-it-all (seriously, they'd correct you if you got even the slightest detail of ANY nerdy media even slightly wrong. didn't matter if it was Trek, Wars, BSG, Firefly, Aliens franchise, Predator franchise, Gundam, Evangelion, etc. . . they were gonna correct you), an obnoxious level of rules lawyer, and a person who didn't understand the concept of a "fluffy" or "casual" list. . . yeah, the limp wristed dice rolling irritated me.


One thing that bugs me currently, is in regard to certain online forums and social media. . . Let's say someone's having trouble with a paint product, or an airbrush issue, or they're wanting to do things differently from how a manual says to (I'm mostly in scale models these days), and you get the Grog response, or the super unhelpful response as if it's the most obvious thing in the world.

what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question. Ya know, person starts with "I was working on blah blah blah, this is all the things I tried to achieve this outcome, but it isn't working, any suggestions?" and there's the inevitable Grog response "use right glue, hurr" or "paint better". . . One that I experienced recently, a kit I was working on called for mixing paint colors. Now, I CAN mix colors, but I've found over the years that if I want to lose all motivation for all miniature painting hobbies, mixing paints is the way to do it. So, I go to a social media site page dedicated to scale modeling and ask the question (with lengthy explanation) "what color should I use to replicate this mix, without mixing paints?" and inevitably there's that jackass: "if you want to get gud, you gotta mix paints". . . like, no the feth I dont. I don't NEED to mix paints to achieve a certain (wrong) color.

Basically. . .is it really so hard to ask for genuinely helpful replies to genuine inquiries? And, if it's a "noob" question, an explanation/reasoning behind an answer is, I've found, always helpful.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question.

This is the default in the 3d printing space for some reason.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question.

This is the default in the 3d printing space for some reason.

Practical engineers and pirates are both known for their conversational brevity.

Non helpful “help” has always bugged me. Especially on new players. People come in excited “I love army x and unit y, what do I need to play” and being told it’s garbage, sell it, get the latest meta tournament list, etc. You can give help, with footnotes. “The rules for that are not in a good place right now, but if you do xyz you should be able to make a fun themed list that should do OK for play at the FLGS”

I also try to keep a lid on the jargon for new folks. It’s easy to fall into acronyms and short hand, but new players won’t know all that yet. So write it out long the first time, and introduce the terms with descriptions, so they will know them in the future.

Not sure that one’s irrational 🤣

But I do agree. And when discussing what someone’s army may or may not need to whip it into shape? Consider their budget.

It’s all fine and well to say “just get killer unit”. But if killer unit is cash expensive? It may not be the right solution.

 Skinnereal wrote:
There's one.
The word 'mini's' with an apostraphe is probably correct. It is just the plural of the shortening of 'miniatures'.
It just looks wrong.

Not only does it look wrong, but it is wrong. On so many levels.

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

 Ihsan997 wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
There's one.
The word 'mini's' with an apostraphe is probably correct. It is just the plural of the shortening of 'miniatures'.
It just looks wrong.

Not only does it look wrong, but it is wrong. On so many levels.

Reminds me of a series of questions on an exam once.

What is the plural of the restaurant chain, McDonald's?

How do you show ownership of an asset of McDonald's?

How do you show ownership of assets of multiple McDonald's?

I remember looking at McDonald's's' and thinking, "Why is this important?" and "I'm probably not cut out to be an editor."

...

Back to 40k Gaming Gripes.

1. To my opponent who has brought their painfully bored spouse/love interest with them to the game.

Please do not force them to watch you play.

They would rather do anything else.

When people mock, belittle, or otherwise impugn others for playing differently.

 JNAProductions wrote:
When people mock, belittle, or otherwise impugn others for playing differently.

Do people really mock others?

I've had people refuse to play me, because my army wasn't set to the current Tourney Meta (aka Canis Rex and Armigers)... but I haven't been mocked to my face.

It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

 JNAProductions wrote:
It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

That's true.

I've been told that I am building my Knights wrong 15-20 times online.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

That's true.

I've been told that I am building my Knights wrong 15-20 times online.

To be fair, stapling the parts to your face is considered…..avant garde.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

That's true.

I've been told that I am building my Knights wrong 15-20 times online.

To be fair, stapling the parts to your face is considered…..avant garde.

Staples? What do you think I am a Chaos player?

I am an Imperial Knight player! I hot glue my models to the commoners who infest my fiefdom!

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

That's true.

I've been told that I am building my Knights wrong 15-20 times online.

To be fair, stapling the parts to your face is considered…..avant garde.

Staples? What do you think I am a Chaos player?

I am an Imperial Knight player! I hot glue my models to the commoners who infest my fiefdom!

So yeah, you're doing it wrong. Quit using hot glue.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
It’s more an online discourse thing.

People who say their way is the only way, and if your standards are different, get bent.

That's true.

I've been told that I am building my Knights wrong 15-20 times online.

How many of those are me telling you to add more spikes?

But in all seriousness: Sure, I feel that some people go too far down the try-hard/WAAC path, but there's a place for those types. Unlike two gunslingers in a one-road town, there actually IS enough room for all* of us.

*Well, almost. Not that guy with the Ork Nazis.

 BorderCountess wrote:

How many of those are me telling you to add more spikes?

Of the 20... probably 16

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.


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For me it is when another player or spectator interjects in the game. Starts telling people what do to do, becomes overbearing, or , even worse, in a competitive setting, says something that impacts the game. I had to tell a guy, "Hey this is our match, between he and I. Please do not comment." Would seem obvious, but not to many clueless people out there.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.

Don't the official GW dice have symbols for 6's?

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.

I didn't like them, in patticular in games like Warmachine, where you sum up totals of dice rolled with almost every roll. But for my kill teams I actually got some dice with faction symbols. In Kill Team you do not get "sixes" you get "crits" and a symbol shows there's a crit as well (actually a little better) as six pips.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

For me it is when another player or spectator interjects in the game. Starts telling people what do to do, becomes overbearing, or , even worse, in a competitive setting, says something that impacts the game. I had to tell a guy, "Hey this is our match, between he and I. Please do not comment." Would seem obvious, but not to many clueless people out there.

100% agreement. The worst for me was accidental, but I was playing Star Wars CCG in the late 90s and about to drop a star destroyer, vader, and use some interrupts to win the game on my turn. A buddy walking by said "Hey, is that a black-bordered Devistator" and pointed at my hand. Opponent scuttled his ships to a system I couldn't deploy in and I lost to force drains a few turns later. Dang it, Mark!

He was embarrassed and didn't do it intentionally, but it goes to show that if you aren't playing in a competitive game, you keep your mouth shut.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.

Don't the official GW dice have symbols for 6's?

I'm wrong, mispoke. The GW events don't allow symbols on the, "1". I misread.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.

Don't the official GW dice have symbols for 6's?

I'm wrong, mispoke. The GW events don't allow symbols on the, "1". I misread.

Cool. I was freaking out a little. I had just ordered some special dice for my tiny army.

My rule is to always use more dice in a game than models.

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A funny aside, that leads to a 40k irritation:

I was playing in a Combat Patrol league and am playing against some kid, whose Mom comes storming in, and berating him about being late and he needed to leave, "right this minute."

I had a flashback of me in that kid's spot many moons ago and realized the wheel continues turn.

I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

But if you don't do it, who will know?

 Snord wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

But if you don't do it, who will know?

In a League or Crusade if you don't do it you could short yourself pts/xp/etc.

Of course you can usually do it in only a couple of moments....

My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

Memnoch wrote:
My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

I agree, especially when they claim that the paint scheme is perfect for beginners... and then proceed to break out the airbrush.

This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.


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Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.

Here's one I found today with the Kill Team updates, but it's always bothered me.

The inconsistent random naming conventions of GW download files.
Even within the update, the file names change format.
I think there's at least 4 different name styles in the latest drop,
as well as not matching the conventions of the update in June,
or the ones previous all the way back to the initial drop.
Because of this, if you grab all the downloads to keep a library, you absolutely need to rename every file just to screen out redundant/superceded files.
Drives me mad!!

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

Funnily enough for me it was the exact opposite when I started wargaming - I hated seeing all the spaced out units spread over the battlefield instead of hugging cover or moving forward as a unit.
There were so many ignores cover weapons in 40k 6th/7th that it sometimes made more sense to ignore all cover and instead standing around as if you were playing checkers.

Cyel wrote:
Oh yes, I don't mind playing at a leaisurely pace but please, don't spend 10 minutes thinking about a minor move that changes nothing.

I actually borrowed the idea of chess clocks from Warmachine tournaments to home games, because I was really fed up with my time being held hostage by a person who disrespects my time, comes totally unprepared and then takes forever to do anything. The clock at least lets them see for themselves - yes, it's not just my impression, you ARE taking three times the time I am taking to make the same amount of moves.

In particular I hate it when we play in a bigger group and another pair of players have already finished their game and are ready to switch opponents, but we are on Turn 2.

(tbh I wouldn't call this irritation irrational, though )

This.. combined with the stares at their phone the entire time I'm going and once its their turn they decide to turn their brain onto the game again. Like you could have been formulating your next move while I was completing my turn!! Or when its their turn to roll dice they have no idea why or for what reason. Pay attention to the game!

I have to admit I get annoyed now when my opponent wants to use those themed war-zone cards...the game already has too many special rules layered on top.

CB

I get annoyed when my opponent sets up terrain, asks if the table is okay... sees that I have Knights and then surreptitiously tries to place more terrain.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Memnoch wrote:
My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

I agree, especially when they claim that the paint scheme is perfect for beginners... and then proceed to break out the airbrush.

Can confirm, I wanna watch some beginner painting videos, and then I see the airbrush and I stare at my painting station which is just a Home Depot cardboard box I kneel next to and a cheap plastic palette and wonder what they consider a intermediate painter.

Its not happened to me during a game as I run my own gaming 'club' at home but I'm sure it must happen to people in games but:

Trenchfluencers.

When I'm watching a warhammer video and the comments get flooded with this, or talking about warhammer with mates, or down the local FLGS buying something and someone can't help themselves and butts into your conversation, or floods the feed with some trenchpilled outburst on why you should ditch anything warhammer and start playing 'Trench Crusade' instead, when the topic had NOTHING to do with the game, nothing to do with changing from playing warhammer, and had no reason to bring the game up. It like these bayonet bros can't help themselves and must jam the game into every conversation and warhammer video out there. Its so tiresome.

I have nothing against the game, but I'm so sick of hearing about it in this fashion (and as someone that doesn't actually go to gaming stores that often mostly because there isn't many here, having this experience more than once is more than surprising) that I quite frankly never want to see it again.

Same can be said for 3D printing & 'One page rules' but I've tuned them out as 3D printing has become a part of the hobby for the most part that you can't escape, and 'One page rules' was just based of a game/version called 'Fubar' which I played long before OPR fans came along so the few times people have shoved the game under my nose, I can just roll my eyes as I already have a copy that predates the version they are using.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

You'd be surprised how little steel weapons weigh compared to a properly made padded weapon.

It's the 'pixie sticks' with graphite cores that are severely underweight and hit like a feather.

I keep telling the pixies "Come on, HIT ME! I feel like a (alternate name for a cat) taking 'hits' that light!" But the construction of their 'weapons' mean they just CAN'T.

Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.



Me: While the reports from the continent remain... vexing, it is believed that the troops, with their usual grit and determination, shall prevail. This is, after all, not a game of cricket, but a matter of national honour, and it is trusted that the commanders will employ a sound strategy and bring this conflict to a swift and favourable conclusion.

Person of Interest: Do you want to play a game against my Tau?

Me: Tau? Game? Sure... good... sounds... uhh... good.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

You'd be surprised how little steel weapons weigh compared to a properly made padded weapon.

It's the 'pixie sticks' with graphite cores that are severely underweight and hit like a feather.

I keep telling the pixies "Come on, HIT ME! I feel like a (alternate name for a cat) taking 'hits' that light!" But the construction of their 'weapons' mean they just CAN'T.

There’s a name for that sort of LARP weapon, but all my brain is throwing is ‘swiffers’, despite the same brain saying that’s not right.

In the UK, we tend toward more robust construction. You’re right the weight probably isn’t all that different. But unless incredibly sharp? Just sort of wiggling your weapon in the vicinity of my (armour clad, albeit leather) bonce just isn’t doing the job.

It’s has got better since Stab Safe Pole Arms were approved, which let them do their historical job (oh no! Armoured Hedgehog!). But once you’ve closed engagement range? Just sort of gently swatting at me, albeit rapidly, with the pole but isn’t, and shouldn’t, stop me.

But there’s still far, far too much softly softy whippy tappy ‘aha, my weapon sort of gently nudged you, that definitely counts as a hit’ nonsense going on.

Indeed, since Stab Safe became a thing? There’s even less excuse for it, as you can wield a spear or a polearm like a quarter staff, giving you decent offensive and defensive options.

Yet…..whippy tappy continues.

For a Completely Rational irritation? Having whacked someone in the bonce a good five or six times (enough under the system I’m used to drop any but the ‘ardest of ‘ard cases), only to have them yell “pull your blows” is the ultimately piss take. Because all it means is that you were noting my strikes, and so should be dead, but chose to ignore them. Which is cheating

In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

 Da Boss wrote:
In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

I’ll support that one. It’s definitely immersion breaking.

I’m put in mind of a Lizardmen player I used to know. His Skinks were always kind of piled up, because he couldn’t be bothered to deploy them properly. I kinda get it as we ideally want to be rolling to hurt stuff, not positioning individual models. But given he used a lot Skinks? I’m pretty he was, perhaps without design, cheating. Simply put, the units did not occupy The Right Amount Of Board Space. And in WHFB, that does indeed count for a surprising amount.

For their ranged attacks? You should be at least roughly measuring model by model for Short Bows, Javelins and Blowpipes. But for his lazy, amorphous blob of a pile of models? Way, way too many, in hindsight, would’ve been in range. Then there’s my own line of charge, and whether or not my unit would have to enter Difficult Terrain.

Gaw…..what a dick!

 Da Boss wrote:
In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

This also bugs me. Let’s get cinematic! Swing that turret around while you are at it!

I’ll allow exceptions for game mechanics. Some units like genestealers are almost impossible to get into base to base contact, except from behind. So sometimes they need to moonwalk into combat. Or instances where 2 squads of identical models are in close proximity. Sometimes you need to left/right face them to keep the squads identifiable.

I don't mind moonwalking in cases like that (well I still hate it but I acknowledge it's not my opponent's fault) but I'd genuinely prefer to fudge it in my opponent's favour than have them moonwalk and get the right number in contact by the rules.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.


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Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.

Well, if it's open season on individual chapters... Raven Guard! Definitely not a real chapter - a 'send us your colour scheme' competition winner. and now they're a First Founding Legion!!!

As long as it’s irrational, it’s in!

Can I add the fact that no one at the store I go to understands the word "decimated/decimate."

Conversation I want to have:

Dude: Man, my army was decimated today.

Me: I assume you won, then.

Dude: Didn't you hear what I said?

Me: Yeah, you said you lost 10% of your army.

Dude: Do you know what Decimate means?

Me: Yes. It was a punishment in the Roman Legions against mutiny, where they would reduce (aka execute) 1 out of every 10 men in the unit.

Thus a decimated unit would be reduced by 10%.

Dude: [Silence]

Me: [Silence]

Dude: No, I didn't win.

It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

stroller wrote:
It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

Yeah, it's the third definition.

It's my gripe. I don't correct others.

The only time I correct others is for the betterment of all mankind. Like when I say things like, "You can't be serious, the best Marvel film was obviously Morbius."

stroller wrote:
It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

Only because people kept using it wrong! /s

Language evolves, but it’s a bit of etymology I know as well. I try not to let it bother me, though-especially since I’m normally a proponent of evolving language.

Which, as the Thread Daddy, means it’s definitely irrational. And so it counts!

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.



Me: While the reports from the continent remain... vexing, it is believed that the troops, with their usual grit and determination, shall prevail. This is, after all, not a game of cricket, but a matter of national honour, and it is trusted that the commanders will employ a sound strategy and bring this conflict to a swift and favourable conclusion.

Person of Interest: Do you want to play a game against my Tau?

Me: Tau? Game? Sure... good... sounds... uhh... good.

That feels less like a 'wargamer' thing than just a 'male' thing. The shared interest just makes effect stronger.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Which, as the Thread Daddy, means it’s definitely irrational. And so it counts!

Whether it's during a game or not, it's people who use the word 'literally' figuratively. If you ever tell me you are 'literally on fire' I'm grabbing a fire extinguisher.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Can I add the fact that no one at the store I go to understands the word "decimated/decimate."

Indeed.

Also, dice is the plural of die.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.

Do we, though? Isn't it just a myth or at best something that belongs in the nerdy past of 70's-80's? Aren't nerds nowadays of all varieties? Sporty, ripped, confident and outspoken included?

Cyel wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.

Do we, though? Isn't it just a myth or at best something that belongs in the nerdy past of 70's-80's? Aren't nerds nowadays of all varieties? Sporty, ripped, confident and outspoken included?

That's why I kept the bit a little gender inclusive as I saw a lasy at the shop the other day lose some of her grasp on the English language.

But, yes, it does primarily affect the male population more.

Now I could be wrong as my sample size is from one small area located deep in the land of stupid.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
...deep in the land of stupid.

...Earth?

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
...deep in the land of stupid.

...Earth?

Hey now, I like to pretend that you northerners live in a near eden where everyone is forward-thinking, mind-blowingly attractive, and whip-smart.

Unlike, my home, where our local population is so bad that we don't even get our own Bigfoot. Instead we get: The Florida Skunk Ape.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
...deep in the land of stupid.

...Earth?

Hey now, I like to pretend that you northerners live in a near eden where everyone is forward-thinking, mind-blowingly attractive, and whip-smart.

Unlike, my home, where our local population is so bad that we don't even get our own Bigfoot. Instead we get: The Florida Skunk Ape.

There are parts of the “deep north” that are just as much fun as Florida. Just replace hurricanes with blizzards, and gaters with moose. People are people all over the place.

Of course, some of us are actually forward-thinking, mind-blowingly attractive, and whip-smart.

EDIT: Yeah, I shouldn't critique other people's irrational irritations...

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
...deep in the land of stupid.

...Earth?

Hey now, I like to pretend that you northerners live in a near eden where everyone is forward-thinking...

...except for my state.

...forward-thinking, mind-blowingly attractive, and whip-smart.

Two outta three ain't bad. [/Meat Loaf] I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader as to which two.

 BorderCountess wrote:

Two outta three ain't bad. [/Meat Loaf] I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader as to which two.

Oooh, this feels like a Kobayashi Maru level no-win scenario to me.

Lathe Biosas wrote:Can I add the fact that no one at the store I go to understands the word "decimated/decimate."

Next time, show them this Doctor Who moment. A true villain chooses his words carefully.

BorderCountess wrote:

Whether it's during a game or not, it's people who use the word 'literally' figuratively. If you ever tell me you are 'literally on fire' I'm grabbing a fire extinguisher.

I am, perhaps irrationally, not bothered by that overmuch. They're using 'literally' as an intensifier for a figurative phrase. It's the equivalent of a word like 'very'. It's perfect for the job.

Suppose you're in the habit of saying "I'm on fire!" when you're not, in fact, on fire. You're simply saying the weather is too hot, or you're having a moment of incredible skill or luck with dice during a game, or similar. Or you find something so funny that you announce "I'm dead!" or "I died laughing!" when you are clearly still alive. You're already saying that something is happening when it isn't. Well, how do you express that figurative sentiment even more strongly than usual? What do you say when the temperature hits an all-time high or the joke is even funnier than the norm? You say it's literally happening when it's literally not. It's the same as saying, "I really am on fire!" or "I'm actually dead!" It's obvious to everyone that you are not really on fire and you are not actually dead, just as it was obvious that you were not on fire and you were not dead. It's clear from context that the thing you are saying is literally happening is not literally happening ... which is why you are saying it's literally happening. What could underline your figurative point more than using the literal word 'literal' figuratively?

In fact, using 'literally' this way can help to emphasise that you're being figurative. If you shout "I'M ON FIRE!" or "I REALLY AM ON FIRE!" people might come running with the fire extinguisher in genuine concern. At the very least there may be a split second of uncertainty while they try to work out whether your hair has caught alight or you just rolled another six. But if you shout "I'M LITERALLY ON FIRE" people will know the fire extinguisher is not needed.

You said you'd be grabbing the fire extinguisher if someone used 'literally' that way. I'm pretty sure you're being figurative and don't actually intend to follow through on your threatened action ... but I'm not completely certain. If you said "I'm literally grabbing the fire extinguisher," though, I'd be 100% sure.

/pedant mode off


'Underrated', now. That always gets to me. People keep calling highly rated, well-respected and critically acclaimed things underrated. Games, books, films. What they actually mean is 'not well known' or 'obscure' or 'nobody I know talks about this enough'. Never mind that it's won awards.

Oh, yeah ... and 'very unique'. It's either unique or it's not!

Zenithfleet wrote:

Lathe Biosas wrote:Can I add the fact that no one at the store I go to understands the word "decimated/decimate."

Next time, show them this Doctor Who moment. A true villain chooses his words carefully.

 Skinnereal wrote:


Deci- literally means one-tenth, not 'lots', as was said above.
Litera is 'letter', as 'letter for letter' or 'to the letter', or exactly-as. Not 'sort of a bit like'
It's no wonder that people regard English as hard to learn, if most of it is not used properly.

Okay, if you're going to keep talking about it then I WILL quibble about your irrational irritations.

And just point out you're using LATIN definitions to argue about how ENGLISH is not used properly...

English IS Latin, and lots of other languages. If we get taught why a word is what it is, we can often tell what the word is without having heard it before. It was an official language of 'England' for 400 years. The Romans left a lot behind, like their language.
So, when it gets mauled and the meaning changes, it irritates whose who were taught that way.

This means this doesn't belong here, as 'irrational', just irritations.

Another irritation, not game related, but game store related.



If your website says, "We have 3 boxes of model X in stock and it costs Y."

Why in the holy feth, would you tell me, "Those numbers and prices are only available if you buy it from our website, not our retail store."


Also, if you buy models from their site, which has exorbitant shipping prices, and decide to pick the model up from the store...they say when you get there, "Would you mind grabbing one off the shelf and bringing it up here to the counter?"

English is several languages in a trenchcoat and carrying a cudgel to beat-up the next language it comes across.

Also, Lathe it is probably down to accounting and how they have to keep inventory separated for tax and Profit/Loss reasons especially if the physical and the online is actually a different corporate entity. It is all like "taxy-waxy".... maybe.....

 Easy E wrote:
English is several languages in a trenchcoat and carrying a cudgel to beat-up the next language it comes across.

Also, Lathe it is probably down to accounting and how they have to keep inventory separated for tax and Profit/Loss reasons especially if the physical and the online is actually a different corporate entity. It is all like "taxy-waxy".... maybe.....

Yeah. I get it, it's just annoying.

Walking in 105° heat before getting to the shop probably didn't help my mood.

 Easy E wrote:
English is several languages in a trenchcoat and carrying a cudgel to beat-up the next language it comes across.

Fun fact, Dutch is just English minus French! (Ok it’s not exactly that, but it is a language from the same Germanic branch with far less French influence from my memory, it’s considered the easiest language for English speakers to learn).

 The_Pilot wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
English is several languages in a trenchcoat and carrying a cudgel to beat-up the next language it comes across.

Fun fact, Dutch is just English minus French! (Ok it’s not exactly that, but it is a language from the same Germanic branch with far less French influence from my memory, it’s considered the easiest language for English speakers to learn).

Eh, close. Afrikaans is the easiest to learn. But honestly, who really wants to learn a language with such a stigma attached?

 DarkBlack wrote:


Also, dice is the plural of die.

As a player of DND, that one gets me every time. "Can I borrow your 8 sided dice?" "Sure, how many?" "Just one." [Begins 45 minute diatribe....]

 Skinnereal wrote:
English IS Latin, and lots of other languages. If we get taught why a word is what it is, we can often tell what the word is without having heard it before. It was an official language of 'England' for 400 years. The Romans left a lot behind, like their language.
So, when it gets mauled and the meaning changes, it irritates whose who were taught that way.

This means this doesn't belong here, as 'irrational', just irritations.

Modern English is the result of Norman (French) knights seducing Saxon barmaids, and afterwards the resulting mess went on to mug other languages in dark alleys to search their pockets for spare vocabulary. Saying 'it's just Latin' is incorrect. AT BEST it can be considered a bastard descendant of Latin, via France, and then changed so much over the next thousand years that modern English is effectively a completely different language than Old English.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
English IS Latin, and lots of other languages. If we get taught why a word is what it is, we can often tell what the word is without having heard it before. It was an official language of 'England' for 400 years. The Romans left a lot behind, like their language.

Saying 'it's just Latin' is incorrect.

I didn't. I said "English IS Latin, AND lots of other languages".
My name is probably a mix of Celtic, Latin, Old English, Scottish and Saxon. My home village has a Danish name, yet is 4 miles from the centre of England. A lot of the neighbouring towns and villages still have Old English names. My job title is a mix of mostly French and German. My field of work has a lot of terms of Latin and Greek origin.

Knowing these things helps to be able to pronounce them, if nothing else. Knowing the devivations of words I know, I can adapt that to work out the meanings of others as I hear them.
A pedophile is someone who likes walking, or feet

For a factually accurate take? YouTube, Horrible Histories, Words We Get From.

Enjoy!

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Vulcan wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
English IS Latin, and lots of other languages. If we get taught why a word is what it is, we can often tell what the word is without having heard it before. It was an official language of 'England' for 400 years. The Romans left a lot behind, like their language.

Saying 'it's just Latin' is incorrect.

I didn't. I said "English IS Latin, AND lots of other languages".
My name is probably a mix of Celtic, Latin, Old English, Scottish and Saxon. My home village has a Danish name, yet is 4 miles from the centre of England. A lot of the neighbouring towns and villages still have Old English names. My job title is a mix of mostly French and German. My field of work has a lot of terms of Latin and Greek origin.

Knowing these things helps to be able to pronounce them, if nothing else. Knowing the devivations of words I know, I can adapt that to work out the meanings of others as I hear them.
A pedophile is someone who likes walking, or feet

Thus the importance of understanding not just HOW languages change over time, but THAT languages change over time.

+ "Hey dude, remember to build a list for the game. I know this is the fifth time I remind you, but just want to make sure."
- "Yeah, man, I know."

Game day
Friend arrives home.
+ "Alright, we're set. What units are you bringing?"
- "Oh, I didn't make a list."

 Frozium wrote:
+ "Hey dude, remember to build a list for the game. I know this is the fifth time I remind you, but just want to make sure."
- "Yeah, man, I know."

Game day
Friend arrives home.
+ "Alright, we're set. What units are you bringing?"
- "Oh, I didn't make a list."

Oh, yes, it's a variation on the "doesn't give a feth about my time" theme. As if the best moment to start perusing the armybook muttering "what options do I even have...?" was when I am sitting opposite wasting my time on waiting for the game to begin.

Cyel wrote:

 Frozium wrote:
+ "Hey dude, remember to build a list for the game. I know this is the fifth time I remind you, but just want to make sure."
- "Yeah, man, I know."

Game day
Friend arrives home.
+ "Alright, we're set. What units are you bringing?"
- "Oh, I didn't make a list."

Oh, yes, it's a variation on the "doesn't give a feth about my time" theme. As if the best moment to start perusing the armybook muttering "what options do I even have...?" was when I am sitting opposite wasting my time on waiting for the game to begin.

My favorite is the "Whoops, I misheard you defense."

"Oh you said 1500 points, I only brought by 2000 point list, guess I can drop 500 points out... just give me few minutes."

And it's never just a few minutes.