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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 The_Pilot wrote:
On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

I'm annoyed by special dice with the symbol on the 6. There should be 6 things or a numeral on that face, not one thing.

Agree, and not allowed in any of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar GT's I've attended. Stated in the tournament documents as a No-Go.

Don't the official GW dice have symbols for 6's?

I'm wrong, mispoke. The GW events don't allow symbols on the, "1". I misread.

Cool. I was freaking out a little. I had just ordered some special dice for my tiny army.

My rule is to always use more dice in a game than models.

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A funny aside, that leads to a 40k irritation:

I was playing in a Combat Patrol league and am playing against some kid, whose Mom comes storming in, and berating him about being late and he needed to leave, "right this minute."

I had a flashback of me in that kid's spot many moons ago and realized the wheel continues turn.

I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

But if you don't do it, who will know?

 Snord wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I did learn a dumb 40k rule though. If your opponent leaves, you don't auto win, you're supposed to play out the rest of your turns without an opponent.

But if you don't do it, who will know?

In a League or Crusade if you don't do it you could short yourself pts/xp/etc.

Of course you can usually do it in only a couple of moments....

My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

Memnoch wrote:
My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

I agree, especially when they claim that the paint scheme is perfect for beginners... and then proceed to break out the airbrush.

This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.


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Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.

Here's one I found today with the Kill Team updates, but it's always bothered me.

The inconsistent random naming conventions of GW download files.
Even within the update, the file names change format.
I think there's at least 4 different name styles in the latest drop,
as well as not matching the conventions of the update in June,
or the ones previous all the way back to the initial drop.
Because of this, if you grab all the downloads to keep a library, you absolutely need to rename every file just to screen out redundant/superceded files.
Drives me mad!!

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

Funnily enough for me it was the exact opposite when I started wargaming - I hated seeing all the spaced out units spread over the battlefield instead of hugging cover or moving forward as a unit.
There were so many ignores cover weapons in 40k 6th/7th that it sometimes made more sense to ignore all cover and instead standing around as if you were playing checkers.

Cyel wrote:
Oh yes, I don't mind playing at a leaisurely pace but please, don't spend 10 minutes thinking about a minor move that changes nothing.

I actually borrowed the idea of chess clocks from Warmachine tournaments to home games, because I was really fed up with my time being held hostage by a person who disrespects my time, comes totally unprepared and then takes forever to do anything. The clock at least lets them see for themselves - yes, it's not just my impression, you ARE taking three times the time I am taking to make the same amount of moves.

In particular I hate it when we play in a bigger group and another pair of players have already finished their game and are ready to switch opponents, but we are on Turn 2.

(tbh I wouldn't call this irritation irrational, though )

This.. combined with the stares at their phone the entire time I'm going and once its their turn they decide to turn their brain onto the game again. Like you could have been formulating your next move while I was completing my turn!! Or when its their turn to roll dice they have no idea why or for what reason. Pay attention to the game!

I have to admit I get annoyed now when my opponent wants to use those themed war-zone cards...the game already has too many special rules layered on top.

CB

I get annoyed when my opponent sets up terrain, asks if the table is okay... sees that I have Knights and then surreptitiously tries to place more terrain.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Memnoch wrote:
My irrational hate is airbrushes. Any time Im watching a painting video and the airbrush comes out Im like nope and skip the video.

I agree, especially when they claim that the paint scheme is perfect for beginners... and then proceed to break out the airbrush.

Can confirm, I wanna watch some beginner painting videos, and then I see the airbrush and I stare at my painting station which is just a Home Depot cardboard box I kneel next to and a cheap plastic palette and wonder what they consider a intermediate painter.

Its not happened to me during a game as I run my own gaming 'club' at home but I'm sure it must happen to people in games but:

Trenchfluencers.

When I'm watching a warhammer video and the comments get flooded with this, or talking about warhammer with mates, or down the local FLGS buying something and someone can't help themselves and butts into your conversation, or floods the feed with some trenchpilled outburst on why you should ditch anything warhammer and start playing 'Trench Crusade' instead, when the topic had NOTHING to do with the game, nothing to do with changing from playing warhammer, and had no reason to bring the game up. It like these bayonet bros can't help themselves and must jam the game into every conversation and warhammer video out there. Its so tiresome.

I have nothing against the game, but I'm so sick of hearing about it in this fashion (and as someone that doesn't actually go to gaming stores that often mostly because there isn't many here, having this experience more than once is more than surprising) that I quite frankly never want to see it again.

Same can be said for 3D printing & 'One page rules' but I've tuned them out as 3D printing has become a part of the hobby for the most part that you can't escape, and 'One page rules' was just based of a game/version called 'Fubar' which I played long before OPR fans came along so the few times people have shoved the game under my nose, I can just roll my eyes as I already have a copy that predates the version they are using.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

You'd be surprised how little steel weapons weigh compared to a properly made padded weapon.

It's the 'pixie sticks' with graphite cores that are severely underweight and hit like a feather.

I keep telling the pixies "Come on, HIT ME! I feel like a (alternate name for a cat) taking 'hits' that light!" But the construction of their 'weapons' mean they just CAN'T.

Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.



Me: While the reports from the continent remain... vexing, it is believed that the troops, with their usual grit and determination, shall prevail. This is, after all, not a game of cricket, but a matter of national honour, and it is trusted that the commanders will employ a sound strategy and bring this conflict to a swift and favourable conclusion.

Person of Interest: Do you want to play a game against my Tau?

Me: Tau? Game? Sure... good... sounds... uhh... good.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
This one is a bit sad, but I like wargaming for the spectacle. I am old school and fondly recall the rules for unit coherency and sustained fire and the 2 inch gap between models in a squad to help reduce blast template damage.

Therefore, whenever I see a squad standing in a clump in a batrep or even pictures of a game, my mind loses it. I feel the same way about Tank parking lots where they are all lined up side-to-side. I can not take these games or players seriously.

Sure, there are no more blast templates, so what is the gaming purpose of spacing them out? Because it looks cool?

Elite super-soldiers or trained troops all clumped up..... my gawd! Have some self-respect!

I can extend that one to LARP.

Hero Fighting is cool. Big, massive swings, as if your weapon weighs the same as a real one, is cool. Selling the impact when you turn a hefty blow with your shield is cool.

Whippy Tappy Nonsense Is Not Cool. Daggers? Sure. Most aren’t, and can’t, be Stab Safe so a “drum solo” attack once you’re up close and personal is about the only way you can. But swords, double handed weapons, pole arms and that? If you’re not swinging them an appreciable distance? I’m not inclined to take every hit.

You'd be surprised how little steel weapons weigh compared to a properly made padded weapon.

It's the 'pixie sticks' with graphite cores that are severely underweight and hit like a feather.

I keep telling the pixies "Come on, HIT ME! I feel like a (alternate name for a cat) taking 'hits' that light!" But the construction of their 'weapons' mean they just CAN'T.

There’s a name for that sort of LARP weapon, but all my brain is throwing is ‘swiffers’, despite the same brain saying that’s not right.

In the UK, we tend toward more robust construction. You’re right the weight probably isn’t all that different. But unless incredibly sharp? Just sort of wiggling your weapon in the vicinity of my (armour clad, albeit leather) bonce just isn’t doing the job.

It’s has got better since Stab Safe Pole Arms were approved, which let them do their historical job (oh no! Armoured Hedgehog!). But once you’ve closed engagement range? Just sort of gently swatting at me, albeit rapidly, with the pole but isn’t, and shouldn’t, stop me.

But there’s still far, far too much softly softy whippy tappy ‘aha, my weapon sort of gently nudged you, that definitely counts as a hit’ nonsense going on.

Indeed, since Stab Safe became a thing? There’s even less excuse for it, as you can wield a spear or a polearm like a quarter staff, giving you decent offensive and defensive options.

Yet…..whippy tappy continues.

For a Completely Rational irritation? Having whacked someone in the bonce a good five or six times (enough under the system I’m used to drop any but the ‘ardest of ‘ard cases), only to have them yell “pull your blows” is the ultimately piss take. Because all it means is that you were noting my strikes, and so should be dead, but chose to ignore them. Which is cheating

In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

 Da Boss wrote:
In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

I’ll support that one. It’s definitely immersion breaking.

I’m put in mind of a Lizardmen player I used to know. His Skinks were always kind of piled up, because he couldn’t be bothered to deploy them properly. I kinda get it as we ideally want to be rolling to hurt stuff, not positioning individual models. But given he used a lot Skinks? I’m pretty he was, perhaps without design, cheating. Simply put, the units did not occupy The Right Amount Of Board Space. And in WHFB, that does indeed count for a surprising amount.

For their ranged attacks? You should be at least roughly measuring model by model for Short Bows, Javelins and Blowpipes. But for his lazy, amorphous blob of a pile of models? Way, way too many, in hindsight, would’ve been in range. Then there’s my own line of charge, and whether or not my unit would have to enter Difficult Terrain.

Gaw…..what a dick!

 Da Boss wrote:
In games where facing is irrelevant, I get incredibly annoyed if people don't rotate their models to face the most obvious threat, especially in melee. Like dudes moonwalking into melee and facing the other way while fighting to the death, please, god no.

Why do we even play with miniatures on terrain if you're gonna do that!?

This also bugs me. Let’s get cinematic! Swing that turret around while you are at it!

I’ll allow exceptions for game mechanics. Some units like genestealers are almost impossible to get into base to base contact, except from behind. So sometimes they need to moonwalk into combat. Or instances where 2 squads of identical models are in close proximity. Sometimes you need to left/right face them to keep the squads identifiable.

I don't mind moonwalking in cases like that (well I still hate it but I acknowledge it's not my opponent's fault) but I'd genuinely prefer to fudge it in my opponent's favour than have them moonwalk and get the right number in contact by the rules.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.


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Black Templars.

I dunno what it is, but I’ve always loathed them. Perhaps it was them kind of side lining Dark Angels when they came out, and getting a vastly superior Codex to the Dark Angels.

Like First Child syndrome or something. But even now, I just can’t stand them.

Well, if it's open season on individual chapters... Raven Guard! Definitely not a real chapter - a 'send us your colour scheme' competition winner. and now they're a First Founding Legion!!!

As long as it’s irrational, it’s in!

Can I add the fact that no one at the store I go to understands the word "decimated/decimate."

Conversation I want to have:

Dude: Man, my army was decimated today.

Me: I assume you won, then.

Dude: Didn't you hear what I said?

Me: Yeah, you said you lost 10% of your army.

Dude: Do you know what Decimate means?

Me: Yes. It was a punishment in the Roman Legions against mutiny, where they would reduce (aka execute) 1 out of every 10 men in the unit.

Thus a decimated unit would be reduced by 10%.

Dude: [Silence]

Me: [Silence]

Dude: No, I didn't win.

It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

stroller wrote:
It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

Yeah, it's the third definition.

It's my gripe. I don't correct others.

The only time I correct others is for the betterment of all mankind. Like when I say things like, "You can't be serious, the best Marvel film was obviously Morbius."

stroller wrote:
It ALSO means:

kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
"the inhabitants of the country had been decimated"

Only because people kept using it wrong! /s

Language evolves, but it’s a bit of etymology I know as well. I try not to let it bother me, though-especially since I’m normally a proponent of evolving language.

Which, as the Thread Daddy, means it’s definitely irrational. And so it counts!

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Why do we (wargamers) become high school morons, when an attractive wargamer appears in a shop and shows interest in what we are playing.



Me: While the reports from the continent remain... vexing, it is believed that the troops, with their usual grit and determination, shall prevail. This is, after all, not a game of cricket, but a matter of national honour, and it is trusted that the commanders will employ a sound strategy and bring this conflict to a swift and favourable conclusion.

Person of Interest: Do you want to play a game against my Tau?

Me: Tau? Game? Sure... good... sounds... uhh... good.

That feels less like a 'wargamer' thing than just a 'male' thing. The shared interest just makes effect stronger.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Which, as the Thread Daddy, means it’s definitely irrational. And so it counts!

Whether it's during a game or not, it's people who use the word 'literally' figuratively. If you ever tell me you are 'literally on fire' I'm grabbing a fire extinguisher.